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#and this is MY echo chamber
mal3vol3nt · 5 months
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it is crazyyyy seeing ppl go all the way back to ITSV and trying to find things to hate about gwen even then.
like in atsv, she is a realistic portrayal of a traumatized teenage girl who doesn’t know what to do with everything that’s happened to her and therefore ends up leaning on and trusting the wrong people. she made mistakes and was more human, but y’all didn’t like that. people HATED her for her mistakes and went out of their way to portray her as some sinister person while simultaneously simping for and loving up on male characters who’ve made similar if not worse mistakes.
in itsv, she comes off as a badass who rarely slips up. this is mainly because we’re seeing her from miles’ point of view and he very obviously has a crush on her so…. like duh. point is, in that movie gwen is an extremely capable superhero who is pretty and a lil traumatized but it doesn’t interfere with what she’s able to accomplish in itsv. she doesn’t make many mistakes in terms of her abilities or her relationship with miles because throughout the movie she’s slowly opening up to the idea of allowing herself to get close to people. therefore, she doesn’t yet have a friendship with him since her arc consists of her cold exterior melting away so she can let him in as a friend.
by atsv logic, itsv-gwen is the far superior and should- be-likeable version for some people since she’s a female character who is badass and doesn’t seriously fuck up or have any perceivable flaws (beyond the flatness that inherently comes with). but nooooo. y’all still hate her from that movie too so like… she just can’t win. you don’t like her when she’s an idealized version of herself and you don’t like her when she’s a realistic version of herself. it’s crazy seeing people pick her apart in itsv when most of the time her actions, like every other character’s, were based entirely on the very intense situation of the damn collider. to pick her apart specifically for her treatment of miles (which i don’t even think was cruel or coming from a place of illogical underestimation considering lives were on the line and miles was a very, very fresh-off-the-bite spider) and not the other characters is insaneeeee.
like to use her actions in itsv, which i would argue were logical in the context of the movie’s plot and situation, against her to further prove that she as a person is undeserving of miles in either a platonic or romantic way reeks with a lil something…. something that starts with an m and ends with a y. idk tho it’s on the tip of my tongue…
anywhore i just wanted to rant. not arguing or debating with anyone cus i don’t got the energy.
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lobotomyladylives · 3 months
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"you do realize that you're in a misandrist echo chamber, right?" you do realize that the entire fucking world is a misogynistic echo chamber, right?
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3cosmicfrogs · 3 months
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the most important thing about a ship is that one of them is dead.
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skygenders · 2 months
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I hate stepping out of Jewish pro-Palestine circles cause the second i do its fucking useless mfs arguing that the star of david is a hate symbol
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oifaaa · 7 months
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I'm actually curious now to find out what the common consensus is so
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edgylesbiangurl · 7 months
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They're the IT girls of Nu metal to me
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mournfulroses · 6 months
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Chelsea Wolfe, from She Reaches Out to She Reaches Out to She; "Whispers in the Echo Chamber,"
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thebirthofvenusfly · 1 month
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all im saying is with how siffrin was canonically off-island when his home was blooped and bambouche is smack on the northern coast of vaugarde it is entirely plausible siffrin landed there given how close it is to The Island and could have met bonnie's sister before--perhaps even a baby bonnie--and just genuinely not remember by the time they meet again
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anxiouspotatorants · 5 months
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This whole «Lorelai is evil and so is Rory and Emily is the real MVP of the show» shtick is getting on my nerves.
Like don’t misunderstand me, I love Emily and Richard. They are interesting and complex characters with strengths and weaknesses and a whole lot of baggage (like almost everyone in Gilmore Girls, except maybe the Town Troubador). But they aren’t this perfect well meaning couple with an ungrateful daughter who refuses to accept help and grow up.
Lorelai is not perfect either by any stretch of the imagination. She’s presumptuous, stubborn, used to getting her way and struggles to see things from more than one angle, but she’s also kind, hard working, supportive and able to strike a balance between being open and setting boundaries. She’s a complicated, flawed person, like all good protagonists should be (as opposed to heroes). And she doesn’t fight with Emily or cut her parents out because she’s being immature, she’s doing it because they genuinely hurt her several times.
Imagine if things had gone exactly like Emily and Richard wanted things to go. A 16 year old Lorelai would be married against her will to a guy who would likely then spend the rest of his life under the thumb of his parents for the «mistake» of having Rory. Her social life, her work, her education, all of it would be heavily monitored by Emily and Richard, as they would insist she only engage with what they deem respectable work and social circles. Lorelai in the DAR, Lorelai running charity functions, Lorelai staying married to a Hayden. So much of what makes Lorelai herself would be gone: the inn, her friendships with Sookie and Michel, cooky hobbies and a band of semi-adopted misfits and Luke.
Certain people (not many but still some) seem to forget exactly what it is Emily and Richard ultimately criticize Lorelai for, because it’s not her childish remarks at Friday Night Dinner. They criticize her for her lack of university education. For her lack of a high status job even though she runs a successful inn that she co-owns herself. For her terrible pick of men - not because of how they might be as lovers but because they’re not high society and not the kind of wealthy guys who could let Lorelai retire to the life of an affluent housewife (like did we forget that one of the times Lorelai cut them out was because they refused to accept LUKE?). Hell, they usually don’t criticize Lorelai for reasonable issues with how she raised Rory, they criticize her for not controlling Rory’s love life more.
I do think Emily and Richard love Lorelai and Rory, and that at the end of the day they want them to be happy (otherwise none of these characters would fight so hard to stay in each other’s lives). But time and time again they let their love of status and fear of a bad reputation stand in the way of recognizing their daughter and granddaughter for what they love and for what make them happy. Dislike Lorelai all you want, Rory too, but don’t come here and tell me that Emily is the one in the right.
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cruelyear · 11 months
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yellowjackets "saints" (S1E6) x buffy the vampire slayer "the prophecy girl" (S1E12)
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gaycavendish · 1 year
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this has happened to them and im certain of it btw
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willowcrowned · 6 months
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I have so many reasons to be thankful for the ridiculous size of lotr but chief among them is the fact that any time I start getting angry and puristy about the books it takes me so long to source citations for my argument that I realize I’m being ridiculous and calm down
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phynali · 11 months
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Shipping definition poll
Asking because I've noticed people use it in different ways, and I suspect a lot of confusion and disagreement happens in fandom because we need more words to discuss what we mean, instead of lumping it all under the single word "Ship".
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*For "want to explore an aspect of the ship's dynamic", this means exploring the characters together romantically or sexually, without any implication of seeing it as healthy or wanting the characters to get together / be in love long term, and without any implication either way of wanting it to be canon. Wide umbrella that includes wanting them to be together and in love through to thinking they are toxic or wanting to see one hurt the other for id-fic and darkfic type purposes.
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ghouljams · 6 months
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hey!! i love your content and im sure you aren’t aware of this considering of the way you’re using the term, but the term pillow princess is an exclusive queer term (and it’s queer originated) for sapphic women!! love your stuff, just wanted to lyk :]
Hello my love "pillow princess" is a term in kink to refer to a submissive/bottom usually service by (you guessed it) a service top or soft dom. Also I myself am a queer afab person who has been queer over half their life and never heard of this term being exclusive to my gender or sexuality.
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buckttommy · 19 days
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Having been around the block in various fandoms over the last ten years, one thing I can say with unequivocal certainty is that things always start to go bad when shippers go from being just shippers to being shippers that stan one half of the ship or the other. I don't know what it is about it, but the finer the pieces you break a fandom into, the more the rot sinks in.
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genericpuff · 5 months
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not to start drama but the OP to that post you just replied to (the sicilian post) is being a dick to you in one of their asks saying Rekindled is a waste of time and to "do something of actual worth instead of being bitter" and it's funny they say that as if they're not also writing multiple long posts about how shit LO is and how frustrated they are that their own webcomic isn't popping off but you making Rekindled is the "loser behavior"??? so it's okay for them to do it but not you. okay. that makes sense.
I mean, whatever? Not me trying to be flippant here or dismissive of what you're saying here, but of course there are gonna be people who don't like Rekindled, it's foefiction (or fanfiction that exists out of the need to see things go differently or whatever you wanna call it), it's basically designed to be divisive lol It's none of my business what they're dealing with but I can understand their frustration and reasoning, as someone who's been trying to "pop off" for 10+ years and still feels like they haven't, really (Rekindled is a niche project for a niche fandom for a niche piece of work, it's still pretty small haha). At the end of the day Rekindled brings me joy and it clearly brings joy to others, too, and that makes it worth it to me. If I was doing this for any sort of greater glory I wouldn't be posting exclusively to Tumblr or doing it entirely for free without offering Patreon rewards or paying for my own assistant out of pocket, and frankly I wouldn't be working on Rekindled, period. I DO have serious projects I want to do and go pro with (not on WT personally because ick lmao) but I'm also working on those alongside Rekindled, I can do both, it's not a one-or-the-other ultimatum LOL If creating joy for myself and others out of the disappointment I have as a former fan of LO is loser behavior to some then w/e, I guess I'm a loser, at least I'm doing what I like :' ) (and honestly that sentiment goes to Rachel as well, as much as I talk shit about LO she's still clearly creating the series she wants to make and she's making a lot more money doing it than I could ever dream of, that's not something I can take away from her and that's not the goal lol)
If people's criticisms of Rekindled existing was enough to bring me down, then I'd frankly be a huge dick who dishes but can't take it LOL It's not my business what others feel about what I do in the privacy of their own space and I don't really take issue with it, unless someone's directly harassing me about it in my inbox/DM's/etc. which this person isn't so... live and let live, they're not doing anything harmful, they just have an opinion which is what we're all doing here lol I crack jokes all the time about Rekindled outdoing LO but at the end of the day, tastes are subjective and Rachel's bottom line is still leagues above my head where I can't touch her, which is fine. I'm not making Rekindled to try and make people not like LO or to take away from Rachel. No one's obligated to enjoy what I do and/or why I do it, and that's okay (ノ´ з `)ノ
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