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Well, Thank Goodness They Aren't All Birds Because It Now Makes It Even More Stupid Paimon Was Turned Into One
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I will only give this woman minimal praise but thank goodness the Goetia are not all birds because that would be creatively bankrupt. But now is the question what all those birds from the party were. They can't all be Goetia and Vivziepop needs to work better on her species lore.
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Also it gives her even less of an excuse for Paimon to look like this if she can make more accurate designs for other Goetia. Seriously, I could totally see Helluva Boss Paimon rocking the Middle Eastern, effeminate look riding with bird feet a camel with a bunch of imps following him around with musical instruments. Seriously, that would be open for so many creative designs especially since she likes Twinks this was a missed opportunity to go wild and she went a safe route of just giving him a straight bird dad. Or better yet don't call him Paimon but another type of demon from the Goetia.
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vasilisasdressshop · 8 months
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Tracey States Her Side
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Seriously, Tracey doesn't deserve this crap. And Vivziepop shows more and more how much of an immature jackass she is and she said before she admired this woman in the past. Again Vivziepop went Annie Wilkes on her fast and it probably won't get better. I really hope Tracey doesn't back down and pushes back on her shit behavior.
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Vivziepoop And Miss Heed Have Another Thing In Common
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They both are bratty trust fund kids who rely on generational wealth to get a leg up in society and due to being spoiled rotten they act like overgrowned teenagers into their thirties.
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belowzion · 5 months
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Once Again, the Premise Has Changed Drastically.
I was planning on watching this to see how it would turn out, even with the new shitty cast, animation and the badly written musical parts, but now that the premise has basically changed from trying to redeem the Scum of the Earth to "Darksiders, but without substance" I think this is my goodbye to the show.
I have been writing a complete rewrite of the Hellaverse with my friend. It started off as a small, fanficcy project and now, at this point, our version feels so different that we are thinking of completely redisgning all of the characters to make it our own. And I think I'll stick to that at this point.
Tell me if you'd like to hear more, it takes place in 1933, Hell is still advanced, 100 years ahead in terms of tech, Loona is 17 years old, newly adopted and VERY different in terms of character, the I.M.P are the ones that bring Alastor to Hell, Charlie and Lucifer have a wonky relationship, Vaggie is a sinner that is unable to let go of her "hazbin" (here the hazbin refers to ones life before the afterlife), Sinners are able to roam to all the different circles in Hell and Lucifer was a gardener. (God lied about him being his right hand man to make having his plans being foiled by a gardener sound less shameful.)
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thisismisogynoir · 1 month
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All of the Hazbin Hotel characters’ designs are bad beyond belief but imo the icing on the sour cake is Alastor. Who the hell(no pun intended) thought this shit was fucking okay?
I mean just look at his ass:
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Who tf looked at this and thought “yup, seems legit” what is going on with his silhouette? His hair? His face(which I’ll be getting back to later bc I mean OH GOD)? His outfit? 🤮 You expect me to be happy with this? Also why the hell is he so skinny? He makes the Disney Princesses look healthy and realistic in comparison, because damn.
And that’s not even getting into the sheer anti-Blackness that goes into his character and thus his design: him being an evil cannibalistic voodoo practitioner, with his Blackness slapped onto him as a less minute attempt to make his portrayal seem “not racist” well guess what BitchziePop, it is. The man is supposedly half-Black on his mother’s side, and yet he does NOT look Black at all. He does not have Black features, nor Afro-textured hair, what a goddamn JOKE. *he also does not have a Black/biracial voice actor. so much for diversity I suppose.
And don’t even get me started on that big ass, creepy ass, goofy ass grin:
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Oh dear.
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rootbeergoddess · 4 months
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So in 'discoure' today.
It turns out that Vivziepop still hasn't learned and uses voodou symbols in Hazbin Hotel. Also, apparently, Alastor is supposed to be mixed; he's part black so that just adds even more casual racism to the whole thing.
Voodou is a religion; it's not an aesthetic and a closed practice, meaning you're not allowed in unless given the go-ahead. Viv is not a practitioner of voodou and it's obvious she didn't even do the most basic of research. I wrote an article about Hazbin Hotel, and from the research I have done, the Loas will leave you alone if you're respectful. If you mess around and anger them, you're in trouble. Some woman burned a doll of Papa Legba, and a week later, she died.
Viv isn't just being insulting and racist, but she's being dangerous. And it's not like this is new; she has been told not to do this before.
I am so done with this woman.
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Charlie should call her Hotel the Happy Hotel and everyone else call it Hazbin Hotel. Charlie has no reason to call it that and should fight about Alastor about it. Just makes Charlie weak she just let Alastor pick the name and Charlie using the name that mock her dream.
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I rarely lurk around the anti vivziepop tag.
Only now did I learn about the whole thing with Brandon and the things he said about Via. Maybe I'm prissy but it feels extremely fucked for a grown up to talk that way about a minor. Even if said minor is fictional it's still kind of really fucked.
Disliking a character is one thing but that was actually kind of uncomfortable to hear. Like chill, she's just a drawing. Why are you acting like this is personal?
Because Vivizepop and her crew aren't normal.
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Ok, This Trailer Demonstrates Why We All Are Fred Up!!!
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Again token mention of business while focusing on the damn forced relationship drama. And again we have poor pity the damn sad bird crap, while vilifying the guy he forced into a relationship with. Again if I was still in the fandom I would eat up this bs, but now I have seen what a hack Vivziepop and her crew is I say you can't pull the wool over my eyes because again your tricks can work on someone who has grown keen to the bs. And again Stolas seems like he would be treated like Verosicka who was rightfully pointed out as wronged by Blitzo when in reality most of the issues with the relationship came with him. Stolas, you and her are not the same so stop it with I am the real victim bs. And again they are going again with the Octavia being shat on because again these people have no originality and again she is going to be demonized for not being on board because again everything Stolas does matters more than anyone else even his daughter's wellbeing.
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Sins Being Neutered By People Who Don't Understand Sins
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The embodiment of lust caring about consent and the embodiment of gluttony caring about self-control is the adult equivalent of this.
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I Keep Thinking Back To This
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Instead of immediately going to make Vaggie Charlie's girlfriend she stayed a friend and she ended up getting with Emily. Seriously, at this point Charlie has more chemistry with other characters than her goddamn love interest. You know it's funny the fact that people have issues when it's a male x female canon relationship that has no chemistry they call it a result forced so-called heterosexism but ignore it when it comes to canon LGBT couples. The problem isn't hetereosexuality, but the fact people forget to put chemistry in a relationship and assume it will wow an audience.
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Seriously, people were saying that it was heteronormality the reason why people shipped Charlastor over Chaggie, but then Emily happened and it showed no it ain't being homophobic but the fact that the canon relationship has no chemistry written. You don't feel like their relationship is alive compared to how she interacts with Alastor and Emily. And I don't care how much the narrative tries to push the Alastor tries to be her daddy, because that just makes even more shippers.
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I kind of now wish that kept Vaggie and Charlie as friends then introduce Emily in the first episodes as an ambassador from heaven who is at first infatuated with Charlie and wants to see her mission succeed. Like again she learns more about what is going on in hell and believes in Charlie's mission to make it better. Seriously, I don't know when Emily was created but this was a missed opportunity.
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Toxic Ships That Poisoned A Show
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Because people say it's a straight person thing, but nope as some shows it's an all sexualities thing.
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Well, This Could Have Been Utilized To Further Motivate Sinners To Go To heaven
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Seriously, this could have emphasized why they should be able to change because they can be with their loved ones again and not have to dwell in this hellhole.
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Vaggie When She Realizes Her Girlfriend Has More Chemistry With A Girl She Just Met Than Her
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I thought this scene sums it up. They just click more than her own canon girlfriend.
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The Biggest Problem With Hazbin Hotel's Rehabilitation Mentality Is Trying To Make All Sinners Victims Instead Of Owning Up To Their Own Sins
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I think the biggest problem with Hazbin Hotel rehabilitation mentality is that they focus in on how sinners are victim of circumstances rather than owning up to their problems and changing themselves. I think the biggest thing with this series is the fact that they think the problem is society instead of someone's own issues how they got into hell.
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One of the first indications of this bs is making it out that Lucifer and Lilith were just misunderstood dreamers were against a strict ignoring that they caused sin in the world and caused help humanity's downfall. But the narrative ignores that fact and tries to treat them as victims of heaven, so we can have Lucifer as a misunderstood sad boy instead of how in the Bible he was jealous of humanity and wanted to bring it down with him due to God's love for them. A misunderstood sad boy wouldn't do this type of shit and Vivziepop selling it a load of it.
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I know this is going to be controversial but I think Angel Dust is hindered as a character but not focusing on what got him into hell. And it wasn't just the drugs and sex, because he did kill people and some of them probably didn't end up in hell. So just imagine him being sent to heaven and his former victims recognized him for his crimes and until now showed repentance. However, the narrative even then doesn't focus on that fact but the idea he's a total victim and doesn't show part of his way to redemption is get his life back together and admit he's done shit where he wasn't the victim but the victimizer. One could say he was put through that life, but then again show his sister is in heaven and that she chose a life of virtue and made it. So, he has no excuse of his dad or brother getting himself into hell except himself and he needs to work on it. Even if he's a victim to Valentino, he still is a victimizer in someone else's eyes who recognizes him decades ago.
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And I am also going to say this the Extermination is used as a way to have all of hell be turned into pitied victims that you forget a lot of them are in hell for a reason. And even more they are doing antics that got them probably into hell like murder, sex, and other types of depravity. While not all sinners are on the same level, the exterminations as a whole just i used to make you forget that they are there for a reason and erase that there is a reason they weren't given a chance into heaven. Seriously, Emily herself called them innocent souls when in any other scene they are far from innocent and the reason why Adam is depicted as a one note villain is because they can't fathom the idea that maybe the Extermination could be used to cull the worst sinners or something.
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I think the biggest problem with Hazbin Hotel's every sinner is really a victim it comes ironically counter to finding redemption. A show which Vivziepop says she inspires from but she completely misses the point is Bojack. She says she's watched it but the biggest point of the show just because you are the victim doesn't give you an excuse to act like a total jackass to others and not own up to your mistakes. The problem is Habzin Hotel never lets anyone own up because they have to play victims, especially any character favored by Vivziepop. Redemption doesn't come from seeing yourself as a victim, but recognizing your own mistakes and how to reform from them. And frankly I didn't see Angel Dust want to reform from his mistakes, but just want a home away from Val. The problem is that Hazbin Hotel is about enforcing victimhood instead of owning up that you did bad things and need to change. An excuse for your behavior is still not fully an excuse and you need to own up to your actions.
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Adam Should Actually Care About The Sinners Since They Are His Descendants (And He Should Be More Likely In Charge Of The Cherub Program)
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Again while yes Adam is usually in strawman anti-religious media as being a strawman misogynist based on interpretations. I wonder why couldn't have changed through the years where he at least cares for his descendants and the fact his actions caused their downfall into hell. I think a twist on things is he regrets how he acted towards is wives and how it hurt those down the lines. I like to think he would be the one who comes up with the program to do something on earth that helps people from getting into hell through something like the Cherub program. Also instead of being a crass, vulgar rock star type I do think he would be a strict moral person who tries to act proper because his mistake cost humanity their souls and he's regretted it for eons.
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Seriously, I really can't see the man who is the ancestor of all humanity taking glee in even his fallen children being killed. He would do something like create Cherub that can even try to save the worse sinners from falling. I still think he would disagree with reforming those in hell, but I want to think the real Adam would care about his descendants facing a second death and even thinks he could with skeptical eyes entertain Charlie's idea if it could help save more lives from being snuffed out. But I also think he would say to Charlie that he's doing everything he can through Cherub to prevent more souls from falling.
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If they wanted to have an angel of destruction they could have had someone like Dumah for the job instead of Adam. And a thing could be Adam and Dumah could be butting heads about humans. While Adam thinks hell is forever, he also is against his children being exterminated and Dumah would be more like the guy who would want to mercilessly exterminate everyone with no mercy. And Dumah is found in the Bible being in charge of destroyer angels. Best of all Dumah is mentioned as disobeying God and as a result was kicked out. He was then banished where he would then torment sinners except on Sabbath. In other words, maybe make Dumah evil and clean heaven of the exterminations. Make Dumah a wild card who does it on his own dime while Adam and Heaven are clearly against this. It would again make things more complex and less one note heaven is evil while hell is the lesser evil and misunderstood bullshit.
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