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kr-0ws · 1 year

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Fandom: *has a lot of gay people in it who resonate with something in the characters and as such ship gay ships*

Certain straight people in the fandom: can’t have shit anymore :(((

#I have been told that I don’t respect female/female or male/male friendships so many times #LIKE WHAT it’s not like I ship everyone together #I also consume other media #and if anything it should seem like I don’t respect rivalries lmao #got told this when I was younger and watched (the cursed) voltron #tho Voltron had a reputation #but this was like season 1 #I only shipped klance lmao #but also this doesn’t go for every person because I know that the reverse of this is true for the mha fandom #not them as a whole but ya know #I feel like I was there for the making of every current cursed fandom a left right before it got a reputation

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ikimaru · 6 months

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I know you had to move on eventually...but I'm going to be completely honest. Hearing that you're kind of done with Klance (besides finishing up the comic) is just a lil devastating. Thank you for the years of beautiful art. I have a klance blog that ended up just being mostly you lol. I'll be buying some merch to support you because really your art fueled this fandom for me. Thank you for everything!

awh I understand that, and trust me it's been a very common topic among my friends and I bc I have a lot of mixed feelings and thoughts on that ever since I realized last december

I really appreciate people's enthusiasm and support through the years 💛 I still got some old art to post and I mean I can always draw more if I really feel like it or if it makes ppl happy! it's just not gonna be super frequent (I've only made 2 posts about it that weren't the comic or old art this year so far)

#Sunnyasks

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mushed-kid · 4 months

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the worst thing about klance isn’tthe fact that it wasn’t canon, it’s the fact that it could’ve been

they developed their relationship in a way that i just can’t actually see as non-romantic, they had so many moments that could prove they had feelings for each other.

and yeah, lance got with allura which is fine by me in the sense that i don’t actually have anything against allurance, in fact i think it’s very cute. i know a lot of klance shippers don’t like it (or at least that’s how it was last time i was in the fandom).

it’s just that allura didn’t like lance back, and i think she had a thing with lotor (i can’t remember), and then she liked lance. and i mean yeah sure fine that she didn’t like him and all that but she’s actually a fictional character so i’m not really gonna take that into consideration sorry.

i mean, keith left voltron because of lance. yes, he joined the blade of marmora, but lance pushed him to do so. when shiro got back and they had one to many paladins, they could’ve just made allura go back to not being one, but idk that’s apparently not how that works.

lance gets insecure, and he tells keith that he doesn’t know how he’ll fit into the team now that shiro is back as the black paladin, meaning keith will go back to red, but lance can’t go back to blue because of allura. and i think that’s what made keith decide to leave. and he does, so that lance won’t feel that way.he gives up his spot to lance.

with the way allurance became canon, it kinda felt like lance was allura’s rebound from lotor. like, lance liked her the whole time and she likes him back in the very end, but i think klance is better because they slowly build it up from ‘enemies’ to friends and then i think it could very well turn into a mutual crush.

do i have to bring up the sunset scene? really? i mean, everything keith says shows us that he knows lance, and honestly i can’t see that scene as not romantic. like at all.

i think they could’ve been canon at the end, or maybe shortly after the show ended. like, an extreme slowburn where they’ve liked each other for a while but don’t figure out because of everything happening.

my point is that klance was so close to being canon.

#sorry i had a moment #some of this might be wrong because i cant remember everything #they couldve easily made it canon #klance #allurance #voltron #tw opinions

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autisticlancemcclain · 3 months

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What’s your most hated fandom characterization for each of the main 7?

hoo boy am i glad you asked. although i’m gonna be real, my issue is less with fandom characterization, because you do you i don’t give a shit, and more with how people go batty if you personally are not a fan of fanon characterizations.

like, lemme be obvious and talk about my biggest example. i am a brown eyed lance truther. we know this. the amount of weirdo comments, weirdo DMs, and weirdo asks i get is atrocious. i post a lot of them bc they’re so stupid they’re funny but the amount of people per week that tell me to kill myself is lowkey wild. the amount of people that love to say some variation of “i liked your fic but you ruined it by making lances eyes brown! his eyes are blue!” and i’ve checked other brown eyed truther’s fics — either they delete their comments better than me, or they do not get the same thing. idk what the deal is lol.

i will concede to the point that i’m a contrarian and annoying about it, but a list of the following non-fanon headcanons/characterizations i hold that have been commented on in some derisive way:

- bitchy hunk (lol)

- non “cinnamon roll too pure and baby and good for this world” hunk*

- allura is a good character (🤡)**

- allura is a sweetheart

- allura is not a drill sergeant

- kuron was a good iteration of shiro

- red paladin lance/black paladin keith/blue paladin allura

- retired shiro

- pidge is not cruel

- pidge is not an infant and can handle things a regular 14-15 year old can handle

- small details are irrelevant (think lances family, exact prekerb details, etc)

- keith gyeong and lance sanchez

- fucking brown eyed lance. i’m saying it again

- tall keith

- non omega keith***

- readmores

- autistic lance

- adhd keith

- non asshole/cruel keith

- comphetting gay lance****

- shallura

- bi shiro, demi keith, essentially any sexuality headcanon that isn’t mainstream

- hunk who isn’t food obsessed

- that’s about it

*stop infantilising hunk

**the allura hate is ridiculous and largely rooted in anti-Blackness. it should not be a fight to say that she had a reason to feel betrayed by keith’s heritage, that she did not “get in the way” of klance, that her death was stupid and ridiculous, that she is often pushed over in favour of klance (not as in she’s less popular, but that her/her death are used as a plot device to further klance), and that she is as interesting, nuanced, and multifaceted as the rest of them.

***people, inevitably, feminize characters in fandoms (largely because many people in fandom are young women, i know i feminize characters simply bc i’m making them like me and i’m feminine lol), and my issue is that people (in the general sense, not everybody) love to feminize keith and then get really mad if anyone else is feminized. this is not about fem or trans woman keith btw. this is about people omega-ifying him and then losing their MINDS if i don’t share that headcanon.

****i literally only wrote this once and then never again because people lost their minds. but as much as i love bi lance, i think it’s interesting that usually, when we see “boy crazy” or “girl crazy” characters, especially if they have a lot of chemistry or homoerotic tension with a same-gender character, people are like oh ya that’s comphetting. that character is desperately trying to outrun the gay thoughts. but with lance, who was definitely girl crazy and cared more about having a girlfriend than actually dating and falling in love (think “mrs blue lion” — he didn’t give a fuck about who he was marrying, so long that it was a girl), calling him gay will have people saying you’re erasing bisexuality. as if he was not fucking straight in the show. so.

sorry this is so bitter and ranty lol. been in a mood

#and have been wanting to complain about this specifically for months #so thank u for that #longpost #vld headcanons #rant #ask

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ultfreakme · 2 months

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idk of it's just me but i don't understand, the atla fandom, from all ships existing would just slander zukka out of nowhere. like mf i just want to see my boys being silly and in love in fanwork, why they need to be so mean lmao

I think it's because for close to 20 years, Kataang and Zutara were reining supreme in ship wars and fandom space. Jetko was the main mlm ship before but it didn't have nearly the same popularity. No other ship could even touch those two and those two continued arguing about what's best for canon.

Now though? Zukka's the second most popular ship on ao3- all of those fics and content showed up in 3 years. And suddenly the Netflix actors are pushing for Zukka practically every interview while actively dissuading Zutara(and hinting strongly at Kataang- thanks Gordon & Kiawentiio going "he/she's my.....family, yeah let's say family *wink* *wink*"). They're getting extremely popular and now fucking Netflix, Entertainment Weekly and Deadline are tagging #zukka in the year of our lord 2024(thank you for your service Dallas Liu, braver than the marines). Popular ships unfortunately get hate, especially queer ships, like just as a baseline regardless of if it's a canonically supported or unsupported ship, if it's "morally correct or incorrect".

This 'crackship' that no one took seriously suddenly feels...like a threat to these people??? Like we can joke about hahaha zukka gayyyy but we all know that's just silly gobbledygook right? (Not saying Zukka should or could be canon, but just the fact that people are seriously considering it as a ship option in fandom makes people act weird)

A lot of the the points made for "why Zukka is bad actually" are so funny though, that my initial irritation is fading and I'm just laughing at it. Some highlights that made me actually lose it:

Zukka is misogynist to Katara because, and I shit you not, they think that we think Katara is homophobic sdjfhbbgvh. I was shook when I discovered this was a thing.

Zukka bad because Klance bad (war flashbacks to Voltron)

"Everyone just wants a gay ship smh the chronically ONLINE FANDOM BRAIN HAS ROTTED THE SANCTITY OF HETEROSEXUAL-[EXPLODES]"

Zuko is a colonizer who's oppressing Sokka by dating him (i have no stats but this sounds like a white person trying very hard to sound like they're super inclusive and understand the plights of the colonized and oppressed. and the best way to do it is shit on a fake ship about lines on a page)

Zukka bad because it makes no canon sense

I think people who are Big Mad don't get that we're genuinely just chilling and making silly stuff without thinking too much about what SHOULD happen in canon. Everyone in ATLA fandom takes the show and the fandom far too seriously, like losing a fan discussion is somehow a slight upon their personal morals.

We coasted along without much hate for a good while but the increasing popularity means Zukka as a ship is going to get bashed ;_; I think the best we can do is block and ignore instead of engaging(very hypocritcal of me rn tbh, I'll try to stop).

I don't think you expected this....giant wall of text but thanks for sending me the ask and I totally get your frustration" Just let us enjoy our silly hcs and content!!!

#riki asks #zukka #ship discourse #anti zutara #a little bit

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klanceficatalogue · 8 months

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YES YALL ARE BACK!! gimme some recs to fall back head first into the klance fandom (ofmd and good omens have been giving me brainrot recently and i miss my boys) fluff, mutual pining, and under 15k appreciated! so happy y’all are back!!

WOO sure! - K

blind spots by adelfie (1/1 | 3,896 | Teen and Up)

Lance knows something’s wrong. Keith turns his gaze on him, dark eyes latching onto him like an anchor. Normally this is when Lance can think of something stupid to say to make Keith smile. Bonus points if he can get a laugh. Usually it isn’t hard — smiles come easy when it’s them. But something is wrong, and Lance knows that Keith’s smile will be the farthest thing from him if he says it. -- Lance gets hurt during a mission with Keith and the Blades.

//injuries

In a Cabin By the Sea by wittyy_name (1/1 | 11,397 | Teen and Up)

Time seems to stand still on Keith’s quiet little beach. Far from civilization, in an old cabin filled with memories, he often feels like he’s living in a bubble. A peaceful bubble, but a solitary one. While he can’t imagine living anywhere else— far too drawn to the magic of the ocean and the beauty in silence— he sometimes wishes that his home was a little less cold and a little less lonely. Those wishes come true the day he rescues an injured sea lion on the beach. It just takes him a while to figure it out.

better together by ShatterinSeconds (1/1 | 4,553 | Teen and Up)

“But you decided to get stuck with me for months on end.” Lance’s gaze shifts back to Keith. “Why?” “You’re the only one who can deal with my bullshit and call me out on it,” Keith continues to indulge Lance. “Not to mention your command and combat skills.” “All true. You are a bit of a handful.” Lance flushes a light shade of pink at the praise but it must not be as subtle as he thinks because he hears Keith whisper, “Now that’s cute.” (or, Lance pines for Keith in not so subtle ways)

(past allura/lance)

#asks #anon #klance #voltron #vld #klance fic #voltron fic #one shot #teen and up #fluff #mutual pining #1to5k

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doomsdaydicecascader · 2 months

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my problem with postcanon jade was that it said she was a cis girl before fusing with bec. i took it as the same "true in a transmisogynist way" troll as transmasc roxy

like, truly, i miss transfeminine roxy every day, and my house is fairly glass when it comes to things here considering i'm writing The Butch Lesbian Jane Comic, but like. the way homestuck fans exert ownership over the text of homestuck is fundamentally what the homestuck epilogues and post-canon are about. act 7 is about the dead calliope saying "fuck canon" and making her own, and she does not know how to care for the characters in question. i genuinely believe reconciling these facts, that what homestuck wants to be and what fans want homestuck to be are tangibly, ideologically opposed, is what post-canon is about

"fans read this character as X identity" is fine and good but that's paratext at best, and making demands of a text that has no obligation to respect them at worst. the epilogues are cashing in that desire to not respect them. homestuck has always been shaking off its readers who exert too much ownership, feel too comfortable with it. this goes way back as far as act 5 act 2 - the author commentary describes switching between walkaround sprites and hussnasty mode in such close proximity as a means of saying "if you always get what you expect, you will become complacent and that's no way for a reader to be", the "come in, go away" routine of homestuck is so repetitive now that i'm surprised basically nobody's caught on - homestuck is always doing insane flips to try and shake people off of it.

and now homestuck is doing that with your headcanons. like, this is a thing i see genuinely, all the fucking time in fandom over the past 15 years or so, people hype themselves up on paratexts and pretend the paratext is the source. the worst i ever saw of it was people having full blown self-harm threatening panic attacks because klance was not endgame in voltron legendary defenders. genuinely, i remember this so well - i think there were still two more seasons of the show after that event too, but i didn't watch it.

i only looked on from afar because what i saw of season 1 wasn't especially novel. castiel was never gay, no matter how many times he was caught leaking omegamusk in walmart or whatever, i'm stealing valor with this joke i was never a superwholock omegaverse girlie. there's so many fandoms i'm not a part of, it's unreal.

anyway, my point is people get really invested in their reads on characters and pretend it's real for the same reason a normie's sports team is gonna go the distance this season. and when they don't, they riot. this is literally just sports fandom 101. we may as well be talking about fucking inflategate here. i also don't go to sports. it's basically just homestuck for me these days.

i imagine this is what it's like to run my little pony before bronies came along: the show was negligible in relevance beyond its capacity to show off the new toys to play with. but the difference is that my little pony is about the toys, it's about encouraging that kind of play, it's fundamentally a set of toys they made a show about, as opposed to homestuck, which was always niche art for webcomics weirdos that caught on, quite literally, with the brony audience. i remember the first time i ever saw dave strider was on fucking ponychan, chronologically it would have been mid-act 5 act 2. it was an image of dave ransacking the lohac stock exchange, which is an a5a2 thing, it was before season 2 started, etc etc.

this is one hell of a tangent to say as far as the text of mspaintadventures is concerned, problem sleuth characters have gender signifiers that are more similar in nature to drag and performance of gender roles than any actual sexual dimorphism. homestuck characters are built atop the gender expression of problem sleuth. jade was a 13/16-year old girl, and that's the only information there was. over time, this changed.

this was an explicit change, too - it's in the change to act 6, passing through the fourth wall, that these characters, who fundamentally are game pieces, that homestuck starts to contend with the fact that people are emotionally invested in them as people. people don't like dave or vriska in the same way that people care about problem sleuth or nervous broad, and this comes out in the text. we get a lot of the best stuff in homestuck out of that change, too, like. the retcon only works because of that emotional investment, and i go so hard for the retcon. the retcon is the coolest thing ever.

and with that change, now, in 2024, she is explicitly a 39 (? i think she's 39.) year old woman with a penis. she didn't go from "cis woman" to "trans woman", she went from game piece to human person. there is no "cis jade" to be overwritten. you're assuming a "cis is default" worldview of a team of transgender and/or nonbinary people and thats just like. its not ideal, really

#really letting these posts get away from me here.#i write really nonlinearly and got distracted to go post resources on the mspfa discord so if theres a sentence fragment in there: idgaf

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coolnonsenseworld · 8 months

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This is kind of an answer to this ask

I think fiction is here to make us emotional and dramatic. But also, to be honest, I am a very bitter person and feel sour about VLD too. But in my experience - not the show disappointed me but the fandom.

Though, I think I simply didn't have expectations for the show to be honest, maybe because I was older watching it? I saw it as a story made up by a group of adults, it's not a divine scripture, my thoughts on it were separate from the story evolving, and when I am re-watching it now I'm having sometimes even more fun, re-learning details and setting them apart. So I can't compare myself to this experience.

My grandmother has a massive collection of books. I asked her once "Have you read all of them?" Mostly, she answered. "Are they all good?" And she sighed, took a pause and told me "All books are good, because even the disappointing ones teach you what you don't like."

As a youngster, she also took a bus to a paper, because she wanted to look a man who wrote an article about how amazing Pan Tadeusz is in the eye, but you know. She read Pad Tadeusz and had to decide what she thinks about it and was willing to have a conversation.

That conversation about it, the fandom, for me, was disappointing and I am happy I met a lot of friends I could talk with in private, and had my own resolutions about it, and despite feeling like some fandoms are not for me - characters I love always will be. Always will receive care from me, I will always draw them compassionate and hugging and laughing together.

It might sound arrogant, but I divide canon from fanon - these characters can have as many lives as you will write them. Even the original autor always shuffles through a few options, backtracks, revives their sherlock, you know. Writers will make decisions that won't make readers happy. I am personally against forcing a change in canon if I am not asked about the opinion. They wrote their perspective, they wrote what they saw in the world. It's a statement like any other, not an attack on my narrative.

This show had a lot of amazing people working on it - talented artists behind it - stunning backgrounds, creative mecha, captivating animation, epic fights, giving us sooooo many fun moments and emotions. It brought forward ridiculous amounts of fans who loved these characters, took what's best in them. Losing respect to all of it, because I didn't like the ending seems counter-productive.

So yes - being kind to a fictional character will be for me like being kind to yourself. I don't care who else wrote them and how, as long as I make them happy in my hands.

In fact, a closing thought - I don't think I would be drawing as much Klance if they were canon. I think their conflict makes me even more invested trying to figure out how to make them fit together, trying to figure out what comfort I saw in them.

I can't grieve klance, when their safety remains in my hands.

#voltron legendary defender #klance #voltron #discourse

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mantasunray-art · 2 months

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ok no one cares about what i have to say but im gonna say it anyway. i don't think it took it all with as much force as a lot of people because 1 i've been very much back on my klance era those last 3 months and i'm watching the office and f1 so i have other stuff to care about (which i didn't have back in oct 2022), 2 since i moved to tumblr i've been spending much less time doomscrolling over this community and reading everyone's thoughts about everything which made me more detached from it all and made me see that i'm doing much better now (i feel less anxious over missing stuff and not knowing everything all the time), and 3 i honestly don't think george is that huge monster that some people are making him to be like that was irresponsible and shouldn't have happened at all but it's not like he has a history of stuff like that or even much worse stuff like yknow some actually terrible abusive people around. so yeah i seriously could see me coming back to some extent. but i just don't think i will because holy fuck the fact that i didn't have to take my anxiety meds nor cried over this in comparison to other times in this fandom makes me see that i can be free??? i have to embrace being out of this unstable hellhole because it was taking a toll on me mentally. before i couldn't because the pros oughtweighted the cons and it was pretty much my only interest so not having it made me wanna kind of die lol and that's why i panicked so much. i was overly dependent on it. of course putting a lot of your happiness onto famous people is a terrible idea but i didn't have any other option at the time. but now i finally have something else (for example klance is my roman empire seriously. first fandom and left it for this one) so i'm gonna embrace it !!! or at least try i guess. so yea those are my thoughts and regarding this acc idk what im gonna do yet but i'm not abandoning it i think. twitter though im most definitely not coming back but that has been basically dead for idk 5 months hahahah

tl dr: i like other stuff and that made my mental health pretty stable over this whole thing and now that i have other stuff to make me happy i really don't wanna go back to throwing up with anxiety over famous rich people that don't even know me even if they're very dear to me and made me happy a bunch of other times

#b.ramble #uhhhh my thoughts about everything #idk how to tag

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lost-crown · 2 months

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I need to say it because the amount of klance things I've been seeing is not normal.

Lance was wronged and so was Keith, but with Lance it is so revolting.

That boy wanted to be a pilot, to be the best at what he was good, and you're gonna tell me he quit ALL his dreams when his girlfriend of 2-3 days dies.

Okay, blame it on PTSD, blame it on him carrying her mission forward. Still, those are not enough to convince me that ending wasn't garbage.

A farmer. They turned this pilot, sharpshooter, sassy guy into a farmer, for no reason whatsoever. It is infuriating!

They never tried to hide that Shiro and Keith were their protagonists. The interesting arcs, the big developments, the cool fights and even the back from the dead all all theirs, but come on man, this is not power rangers.

You sell this idea of 5 cool pilot fighters, a princess and a mustache, and one of the fighters has less memorable moments than the mice.

And don't even get me started on the queerbaiting. What was the ducking point of putting those long talks between Keith and Lance, those sentimental for eyes between them, just to throw it out and put Allura there.

Don't get me wrong here, I love Allura, but we all know what they did to her was horrible, and in real life, she would be using Lance to get over Lotor, because Lance was comfortable and that boy was too good to hurt a girl's feelings.

I hate what dw did, but I love the fandom for keeping our delusion and coping together

#klance #Voltron #I've never recovered #and i never will #I'm gonna scream

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olderthannetfic · 8 months

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I really wanted to ignore the vld wank and hoped it would die off.But ffs, no-one ever said Klance was pedophilic. Klance shippers who were the big antis in the vld fandom. They were the ones who called sheith “pedophilic” and by extension, any ship involving Shiro with one of the paladins.Klantis (klance shippers who were “antis”) were the ones who harassed other fans and the crew of the show. They played a big part of popularizing age discourse, harassment, and the “anti” mentality. (vld 1/3)

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The only comments on Keith’s and Lance’s age difference happened when the ages for the paladins were revealed in an official book. Antis used to argue that sheith was “pedo” because Keith was a minor and Shiro was an adult. But according to that book, Keith was 18, and Lance was 17. So some people pointed out as a *joke* that now Klance was the ship with a minor and an adult.Of course antis claimed that it was the age gap that made sheith “pedo”, and continued their harassment. (vld 2/3) Later, due to weird space-time stuff, Keith aged 2 years while the rest of the team didn’t, so at the end of the show his age gap with Lance was pretty much the same as with Shiro. Antis twisted themselves into pretzels to justify that Keith’s additional 2 years “did not count”. As for the “queerbaiting”: the producers stated twice in interviews that klance would not be canon. Antis insisted the klance would be canon anyway. Meanwhile in canon Lance clearly had feelings for Allura. (vld 3/3)

I don't know where people get any version of VLD fandom history other than: Klance fans sucked.

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ikimaru · 3 months

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hey sunny! when i first found your account it was because of your loose ends klance comic and you literally made me fall in love with them and your art!! i can safely say that you're one of my favourite artists and you could literally draw any character and i would adore it.

while i know that i'll miss your klance art because it was the fandom that introduced me to your art, i'm also just so so excited to see where else your drawing will take you and what you explore!! (also, seeing your genshin art brings me immense joy✨) you could probably get me into any fandom that you're in lol

i hope that when you're done with the klance comic you can enjoy drawing again and that you don't feel the pressure anymore of drawing something that you grew out of! you deserve the joy of drawing things that make you happy✨

i wish you all the best and also a wonderful day or night!!☆ ～('▽^人)

(i'm just very happy to have been a little part of your following over the years and that i got to see all your wonderful work till now!!)

hi! thank you very much and I think I'll be mostly doing Genshin for now and whatever I happen to have an interest in haha

but it's cool that u would be interested in new stuff because of me... 👀 happy to hear that

I'm already enjoying drawing again, ever since june last year, but doing the comic hinders my progress in multiple ways, anyway now that the drawing part is done for the most part I should be able to focus on other things more consistently c: (even if I still gotta color 4 pages a week if I want to stay on schedule lmao so.. not done yet)

that's so sweet of you omg thank you!

#Sunnyasks

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hollow-dweller · 21 days

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5-10 🤭

it's always you at the scene of the crime

5. worst discord server and why

the answer to this is actually not in spidey, it's this one klance server i was in back in ye old voltron days that was absolutely horrible to exist in as an Allura lover/Allurance shipper. when she died, and klance didn't become canon (because it was never going to), things got nasty and i will freely admit i am still bitter about it! nothing made me dislike klance faster or more thoroughly than klance fans.

6. which ship fans are the most annoying?

anyone with a Tony Stark ship, really, though obviously the one I see the most nonsense from is irondad. Tony fans are, 90% of the time, there for Tony, and really focus on him to the exclusion of any of the other characters, including the one that he is partnered/shipped with. as someone who writes for and interacts with irondad because i love both Tony and Peter, who wants to explore them and their extended universes, it fucking sucks to have to wade through post after post that grossly misrepresents or misinterprets Tony, and treats Peter as a prop more than a character.

7. what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them?

having said the above: Tony Stark you will always be famous! none of these people who pretend you're a soft uwu dad who's never done anything wrong could make me hate you, because that's NOT you!

i don't know there are any characters i "hate" per se, but certainly there are ones i will AVOID because the fandom is so terrible. in Spidey, though he's not a Spidey character, that's Harley Keener. i have zero feelings toward his canon character because he was a child and then an easter egg, and basically has no canon character. but i will avoid him at all costs in fic/tumblr tags, because his fans use him to completely supplant and erase actual Spider-Man characters, like Ned and MJ and Flash.

8. common fandom opinion that everyone is wrong about

MJ WATSON WOULD NOT WORSHIP PEPPER POTTS ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME

MJ "i want to get a little light protesting in before lunch" Watson, MJ "so really this is all your fault" Watson, MJ "i don't want to tour a building made by slaves" Watson would NOT be falling over herself to talk about how "cool" Pepper Potts is.

fandom loves to drop MJ into interactions with Tony where she's snarky and rude and makes "eat the rich" jokes. but then they'll turn around and also make her look up to Pepper as a girl boss.

and it's because people's aren't representing her as anti-billionaire or anti-establishment as a genuine reflection on her character and how she might behave meeting Tony Stark or Pepper Potts. she's an audience avatar to spout a couple memes and jokes, then is unceremoniously shuffled off stage left so that Tony and Peter can cuddle on the couch or whatever. it's about making Tony look cool and chill for "putting up" with her, and to make Peter embarrassed so that Tony can reassure him.

9. worst part of canon

Far From Home, beloathed. its sins are innumerable but to sum them up in as concise of terms as possible: it represents so much wasted potential. we could have had post-blip meta! we could have had the FOS as more than a joke! we could have had actual development of the petermj relationship! and yes we could have had an actual examination of the impact of Tony Stark and his legacy on Peter and his life!

WE COULD HAVE HAD MAY PARKER

instead we got a kidz bop european road trip movie and only head fakes to anything deeper going on between any of the characters

10. worst part of fanon

here's the thing: the idea of a community of people coming together to collaboratively fill in the blanks of a piece of art is, conceptually, beautiful, and exactly what fandom should be about. doing collaborative, generative creative work is genuinely valuable, and an important part of community building in creative spaces.

but the relationship that people have to fanon, is, frankly, completely fucking whack. modern fandom doesn't use fanon to generate collaborative and creative elaborations, variations, and interpretations of canon: they use it to supplant canon. popular fanon goes beyond being just an idea that a lot of people like; it starts being treated as law. people start interpreting canon through the lens of fanon, and in doing so treat the canonical text not as a work of art that deserves consideration and interpretation, but as a static and authoritative source whose purpose is to be excavated for "proof" of fanon, and anything that exists outside of fanon or in opposition to it is to be dismissed, ignored, and denied.

there are plenty of people who will happily admit they don't pay attention to canon and prefer fanon, and while that isn't my preferred way to engage with art, i have way less of a problem with that. people who engage with the original work through a fanon lens first, in an attempt to "prove" fanon, aren't seeking alternative interpretations or elaborating on the art. they're not even picking and choosing the things they like and the things they don't. what they are doing is working backwards from a foregone conclusion to pretend like art has one fixed, immutable interpretation, and that interpretation is the only correct or acceptable one.

the only proof you need of this tendency is the way people lose their fucking minds when you question popular fanon, or, god forbid, point out how it is directly contradicted or disproven by canon. it's a shitty way to engage with fandom as a community, and it's a shitty way to engage with art, and i have no patience for it.

choose violence ask game

#asks #ask games #hope this is violent enough for you

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fic rec friday 32

welcome to the thirty-second fic rec friday! where, on friday, i rec five of my favourite fics.

1. A Dragon’s Treasure by @wittyy-name

As heir to the kingdom, Lance always thought he knew exactly what life had in store for him. That is, until a dragon kidnaps him at the age of sixteen. Suddenly his life is a lot less parties, lessons, and castles, and a hell of a lot more barren mountains, grumpy dragons, and boredom. From heir to prize, in just one night.

So now he’s stuck living in a cave with an adolescent, grumpy dragon who doesn’t seem to want him there but still won’t let him go. Not to mention his annoying habit of defeating every suitor who tries to come rescue Lance.

As much as he hates to admit it, he’s probably going to be here for a while. So he might as well settle in and get to know this dragon named Keith.

i accidentally lied last week this one is the last one from my rereadables collection. and for good reason!! dragon beauty and the beast tbh. and wittyy-name ALWAYS nails the complicated i-love-you-and-feel-trapped-by-you, complicated relationships kind of thing. and i fckn love it so so much

2. Needle and Thread by VulpesVulpes713

Based on the prompt "kisses meant to distract the other person from whatever they were intently doing ". Keith tries to fix a tear in his jacket. Lance just wants some attention. The end result? Feelings.

this one is so cute they are so in love u know?? they just like to be around each other. always a fun read. vulpes is very good at klance with a crush on each other regardless of whether they’re already dating lol

3. Plans Are Overrated, Anyway by @chyeahlex16

"Lance, I-" "I know, I know," Lance said as he bustled around his nearly bare bedroom, tossing shirts out of drawers and pictures off of walls into his open suitcase on his bed. "I totally procrastinated till the last minute, just like you said! I don't need to hear the 'I told you so,' a little help packing would be nice!" "Lance-" "I bet you're already packed," he went on, oblivious to his best friend anxiously shifting in his doorway in frustration and anxiety. "Man, I can't wait until we get there-" "Lance! I have something to tell you!" Lance blinked, stilling his movements. He'd never seen his best friend so... guilty and anxious before. His brows pulled together in concern. "What's up, buddy?" "I'm not going to the Garrison with you." ~ In which I project onto Lance about things that I'm currently going through because I need to vent lol

HUNK AND LANCE HUNK AND LANCE HUNK AND LANCE. we do NOT have enough of it in this here fandom, ESPECIALLY prekerb, early relationship, and what a shame! i have always loved this fic’s exploration of their relationship and the ways they had to learn to grow into themselves, the starts and explanations for the way they were when we saw them. i love them

4. With These Hands by @azapofinspiration

Despite all the trouble they'd been through, Hunk figured everything had turned out all right. After all, he and Lance had managed to return to the castle!

Then Hunk sees the bruises and knows that things are not as good as he thought.

bro a-zap has always KILLED early season dynamics and their missing moments series is everything!! ive always needs three hundred percent more context on the mermaid episode and this fic provides not only that but also some excellent hunk & lance moments, with hurt/comfort that isnt imbalanced or infantilizing on either paladin’s part which is a low bar but awesome anyway

5. Not As Clueless by @azapofinspiration

Pidge had always thought it was strange that despite being quite observant, Lance had completely missed the fact that she was a girl. However, it seems that that wasn’t really the case.

from the same series i just mentioned! lance IS observant, thank you very much, and i loved this take and interpretation. as much as lance does have a tendency to be dense about things, he also tends to be very observant bc hes a walking dichotomy. he notices things but his conclusions are often different than what others would make, and this entire concept is nailed in like 1.5k words

that’s it for today!! i’ll see y’all back next friday for the next fic rec post!!!

#lots of platonic today and hell yeah for that!!#vld #voltron #team as family #lance #lance mcclain #keith #keith kogane #klance #dragon keith #prince lance #hunk & lance #lance & pidge #fic rec #fic rec friday #established klance

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It's funny that zk hate Aang and Mai only because these characters are a threat to their fanon ship. Aang and Mei don't interest them beyond talking about ships. If the endships were, for example, Zuko and Toph, or Zuko and Jin, or Katara and Haru, then they would never talk about Mai or Aang, but they would hate Toph, Jin or Haru with fierce hatred. I once read how they were discussing toko (Toph/Zuko). They were talking about some well-drawn fan art and, obviously, sensing a potential threat in the Toph, attacked her with poisonous comments.

Yup. Which is why Jet tends to get the role of "asshole/abusive ex boyfriend" in their fics almost as much as Aang. They cannot STAND the very basic concept of "My ship is not for everyone and sometimes people prefer the 'rival' pairings."

I've had some of them snap at me and shit-talk Zucest and Azula since they know I ship her with Zuko, and I'm like ???????? Buddy, the zucest fandom has about 20 people, including me, why are you feeling so threatened?

But my FAVORITE hate-campain of their was towards the "Zukka" (it was really Voltron fans projecting their Klance headcanons onto Sokka and Zuko) die-hards because EVERYTHING they gave Zukka fans shit for were things they ALSO did on the the regular.

Projecting and completely misrepresenting canon? Check.

Feelings entitled to have their ship be treated as canon? Check.

BEGGING Netflix to make it canon and pretending it was guaranteed to happen? Check.

Harrassing, bullying and threatening anyone who liked a rival pairing? Check.

Accusing everyone of being sexist/homophobic for not shipping it, but writing incredibly sexist/homophobic metas and fanfics with zero self-awareness? Check.

Delusional "The are totally hints in The Legend Of Korra that they raised Izumi together/had a secret love-child"? Check.

Convincing themselves they're the underdog, niche ship appreciated by few and hated by the majority when they were one of the loudest, largest, most insufferable parts of the fandom that wouldn't leave people the fuck alone? CHECK, CHECK, AND CHECK.

Seriously, the ammount of times I've seen both sides go "Your ship will never be as canon as our OTP is!" is insane because neither side ever seems to realize that's not the win they think it is because BOTH SHIPS ARE PURE FANON XD

#anti zutara #anti zukka

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✨ Intro Post ✨

Hi everyone! I'm Andra Edevane, but you can call me Andrevane or Andy if you want. My pronouns are she/her. I'm pansexual. I don't care if a person is female, male or non-binary. As long as they can make me feel loved, their gender it's a secondary thing. I'm an adult, that's all you need to know about my age. So please, minors, don't talk to me in DMs. You can send me asks and interact with my posts, but that's all. I'm also open to roleplay if you want to! But again, not minors. And feel free to send me ask/DMs me for anything!

【 About me 】

🌸My irl friends: @mustangdemon, you're a great person who always seem to know how to cheer me up, so thank you for that @shoon200218-blog, I don't know how would be my life without you (probably very terrible), I love you 🩷 @sergio130posts, you are an awesome person and you deserve someone as good as you in your life

🌸My mutuals: @mustangdemon @shoon200218-blog @generalallxsanjishipper @destroya2005 @fancychaostraveller @zearay @rexnanorum @salsalada @inkfowl @arrhythmicdesires

🌸 Bilingual. I speak English and Spanish.

🌸 Writer (I finally have an AO3 aacount! :D. The username is the same as here btw)

🌸 Artist (I draw sometimes, but I don't know if it's good or bad)

🌸 Music: I like all type of music genders, except reggaeton and trap. My favourite music gender is definitely BSO music. And symphonic metal. Symphonic metal it's... so beautiful for me.

🌸 Hobbies: Write, draw, read, listen to music, watch TV shows and movies.

🌸 Favourite season: Winter.

🌸 Favourite singer/group: Hidden Citizens

🌸 Fics I like: Mostly hurt/comfort, because why not? Is there something more beautiful than a person who comforts another person when they need a shoulder to cry on? Crack fics too, because we need to laugh more in this life and be more happy. Villain redemption, because I believe in the innate goodness in people and I think that's what would make a better world. So you can recommend me hurt/comfort, crack, or villain redemption fics if you want.

🌸Fics I don't like: Rape/Non-con fics because I don't feel comfortable with those kind of things. Fics with toxic relationships because what I want in a fic is a happy ending for all the characters, and if there's a toxic relationship that's definitely not a happy ending to me. And I don't like fics with gore neither. So fics with toxic relationships, rape/non-con, or/and gore are a no-no for me.

【 My fandoms 】

⚡Harry Potter 🌌 Star Trek | Star Wars 🦸 Marvel | DC 🐺 Teen Wolf | Shadowhunters 🏥 Stranger Things 🐞 Miraculous Ladybug 🗡️ Trollhunters 👩 She-Ra and the Princesses of Power 🔥Avatar: The Last Airbender | Avatar: Legend of Korra 🦉 The Owl House 🛸Voltron: Legendary Defender

【 Ships I like 】【 My OTP's 】

Yes, I rarely ship the canon couples. Why? Don't ask me that, I don't know why. I just can't avoid shipping non-canon couples. Maybe it's because all of the canon ships seem like the same to me and I'm tired of that. Or maybe it's because non-canon ships are more interesting to me and they could have an interesting story. Anyways, If you ship canon couples it's okay, but that's not for me.

【 DNI 】

♦️ LGBT+ phobes. I don't care if you are Homophobic, Biphobic, Acephobic or whatever you are, if you can't respect people for their sexual orientation, don't talk to me.

♦️ Transphobes. Everyone deserves to live a happy life. And if someone isn't living a happy life because society asigned them a wrong gender, they have the right to be their true self. If you don't support or accept that, block me or don't talk to me.

♦️ Xenophobes. Hating someone for not being of your country is dumb and it's wrong. So if you are like that, again, don't talk to me.

♦️ Racists. We're all humans, no matter the race. And if you can't respect people for being of another race, don't interact, thanks.

♦️ Sexists. Whether you are a misogynist or a misandrist, if you can't accept that no matter the gender we are all worthy of living in this world, don't talk to me.

♦️ Ableists. Despise or hate persons just for having a disability (If that term upsets some of you tell me) is something horrible and you shouldn't do that. So if you are an ableist, don't interact.

♦️ Radfems/TERF. You can support an ideology, but only as long as you aren't radical. So radfems, don't interact. And if you are a feminist that excludes trans-woman, don't do it neither.

♦️ Fascists. If you are antidemocratic, ultranationalist, right-wing or right-wing extremist, stay away from my blog. I don't want those people talking to me.

♦️ If you support censorship.

♦️ Zionists.

♦️ Islamophobes. If you hate a person just for being muslim, don't interact. Like I said before, I'm a respectful person and I only want to talk to respectful people who support human rights.

♦️ Killers, rapists, pedophiles, MAPs. I don't have to say why I don't want those people intecting, right?

【 Moral of this intro post 】

If you can't be able to admit that we're all humans and we're all worthy of live, and live without being harrassed or abused for our race, gender, sexual orientation, nationality, disability, or another reason, block me.

If you are the opposite, if you are good and kind, if you are respectful, you support LGBT+, and you believe in the equality of all humans, no matter race, gender, sexual orientation, nationality, disability, or other things, you are totally welcome!

I think that's all! So byeee!,

Andy 💐

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