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horizon-verizon · 11 months

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What do you think about tyrion?

This ask has been sitting in my inbox for MONTHS!

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As a character from the book, not the show? Beyond interesting, as he feels grimy and decadent while also desperate for power/gaining an advantage over others. Liked his sarcasm when it's not trained on less fortunate, lower classes people or women/misogynist. Endlessly entertaining, his pain is compelling when he's vulnerable, and his darkest moments are repulsive. Enhanced and inspired by that pain and need for love or respect, by his pain.

As a person, he and I wouldn't be friends nor would I like or trust him ten feet away from me. I more semi-pity him than admire him.

There is a post/set of reblogs starting with black swallowtail butterfly expressing their hatred for how GRRM wrote out Tysha and her rape, using it mostly to highlight Tyrion and Tyrion himself not really valuing Tysha enough to really ever work at knowing her or looking for her years after she was gang-raped and sent off who knows where. Regarding how Tysha haunts him, I think that he uses sex and power imbalances (layered over that) to self-affirm. Sex and the ways they handled their sexual partners and why it opens both characters' secrets to their own detriment. They both think that they have much more control over those partners than they did or overestimate their own vulnerabilities and weaknesses or inattention to their partners' changing emotions and feelings regarding them, or what elements their partners are exposed to that would turn against them. Like Cersei, who loved/was obsessed with Rhaegar and being his wife, Tyrion is envious and in awe of the Targaryens and their primacy, their freedom of practice, etc. Again, because he has always felt stunted of freedom and love since childhood. Sex and emotion, the intimacy and exchange made within that dynamic, is as much a motivation or weakness for Tyrion as it is for Cersei. While Cersei uses sex and men's desire for her to gain their supposed loyalties and resources--sometimes giving up her sexual agency for her children--and (with Taena) perform "masculine" power, Tyrion uses sex to act at being vulnerable & deny his monstrousness without it turning into dangerous vulnerability.

While Tyrion is far more capable of critical thinking and willing to use it (than Cersei), I think that, much like Cersei, Tyrion depends on his class to offset the societal and family aspersion/indifference against him, wants his family's respect and affection, and with each flout of his importance based on his dwarfism from those he finds attractive (and not just because they are attractive physically but the allure of the access to power [Sansa] elsewhere or to his ego alone [Shae]). Like Cersei thinking that she has Tywin's intelligence as well as his ruthlessness, Tyrion thinks that he has more emotional control than he actually has. Control and mastery over his emotions could help him see the outcomes of some strategies or some people's behaviors to anticipate before making a move.

Both he and Cersei aren't that self-aware and use the external perceptions of them and the need to control them to make excuses for themselves often. This also leads them to not understand themselves in relation to others outside of Tywin and Jaime/the Lannisters-as-made/supported-by-Tywin.

Meanwhile, he has Bronn kill Symon Silver Tongue (a blackmailing singer) and had little reaction to news of his corpse put into a "bowl of brown", which implies forced cannibalism on unsuspecting consumers. Which is very evil, and unnecessary, tactically but speaks to his need to have control over the "smallest" of things that affect the human body itself. (Perhaps the transformation from man to food itself satisfies Tyrion's need to transform himself and change out of the undesirable body he was born with.)

He believed that he surpassed Tywin's cunning and competence, but Tyrion--before killing Tywin -- was still stuck in the Lannister knot of trying to please and gain the love/respect of their father who defined and compressed their sense of worthiness to his own expectations and directions. And he's actually very much like Tywin and Cersei in his disinterest in anything but image or power, over the smallfolk's long-term needs for those themselves. Like most aristocrats. The problem is, again, he thinks he's better than Cersei as a person, that he is inherently better because he is smarter. It partially feeds into and leads to his peculiar blindness to the most obvious things about what makes people outside of his family truly tick, making him think he can go without considering that.

Femicide and intimate partner violence: Shae. An indication of his losing himself in that Lannister-loveless-knot, and we're left off not knowing whether Tyrion could come back from that (as the text encourages us to feel). Personally, once he killed Shae, I thought him irredeemable.

Killing Twyin? Don't care about that, even with kinslaying considered more heinous than killing a woman/a sex worker/a mistress in Westeros. Tywin was one of Tyrion's demons and though patricide is particularly...hard to get through without looking at the actor without some sort of side-eye, I think when one continuously harms their child they open up a slew of consequences they've made for themselves, and they are the ones to scrape and whittle down that bond in the first place.

No, killing your dad isn't "right"...neither is it to force a 13 year old child watch as a group of men rape someone they cared for and force her away from them, make that child feel like they are a blight but then steal the glory of their adulthood accomplishments...etc.

Going back to Shae, even with her betraying him:

(I forget, so anyone could correct me on this) We don't know what pushed Shae to betray Tyrion, but their relationship has never been truly close nor brought into a certain understanding of two people who thought themselves equals, whatever that could have become in a relationship like theirs. From the get-go, Shae seemed more into Tyrion for the protection, money, and being close to the court for exploration and a bit of excitement. Yet Tyrion kinda fools himself into thinking there was a love/intimacy that bonded them while treating her as a more sexual companion who makes him feel good than a true partner. What's interesting about Tyrion is that In that sense, Shae treated him as the "the deal" between them always was -- a means to an end.

*EDIT* Shae had been bouncing from one place Tyrion hid/lead her in KL to another to keep her from Cersei's hands. At one point, she was going to land in them or be killed, yet Tyrion refused to let her go. So it's likely she went to Tywin to really get away from danger, as Cersei wouldn't seek to mess with the very man she is always been both scared of and desperate to "please". *END OF EDIT

(if one argued she was forced) Especially when she's up against someone like Tywin Lannister, who could have had her out and degraded like Tysha (which Tyrion is aware of, so ironically he's keeping her in the same space as the man who destroyed his first love as well as his own sister, and "protecting" her poorly). While past the Westerosi age of majority AND at the age of consent for U.S. society, Shae is also much younger than Tyrion, and even younger than Tywin. With either man, Shae didn't seem to stand much of a chance, and Tyrion took her betrayal as JUST a personal affront, which while I get to a certain extent, I see is also solipsistic.

his killing her was not about justice, but the precursor to the revenge that he plans against every single person who did him wrong (and with how he handled Symon, there's reason to believe that he wouldn't discriminate about who he hurts or kills to get this end...similar to Lady Stoneheart, except scarier to me since Tyrion is trying to utterly destroy even Jaime, who though acted badly by keeping the Tysha 's feelings for Tyrion secret and thus is partially responsible for Tyrion's misery, was also the only one to ever look out for him or try...that shows a particular hypocritical blind anger at the entire world that spells disaster)

*EDIT #1* Going a little back to the element of us not knowing if he will "come back" from him killing his father/Shae, the answer for me is no and unlikely. Because him killing his father slices through the Lannister "knot": the biggest motivation for why Tyrion has always done what he's done, fatherly love, familial regard and respect, power through that acknowledgment, acknowledgment from society THROUGH becoming something like this father which had brought them the prosperity and prestige the Lannisters enjoyed...seeing as the Lannisters became the way they became thru Tywin's actions and connections. Tywin himself, they all learned, only gave them some sort of attention or regard when he felt they would be useful for politics and their house's further aggrandizement. Which is itself only possible through wealth, a great (by skill or fuel or size) army, connections, self-supply through agricultural resources, etc. You know, the feudal way.

Despite his thinking, Tyrion technically doesn't emotionally need his family, while he very much desires their love, because it was never given in the first place. That lack of love, or at least respect, kept him an outsider, which does give him a separate perspective that made him capable of killing his father in the first place.

*END OF EDIT #1*

Despite him thinking he's handling Shae and her feelings well, he's not and actually is led by his need for her to love him, or to continue to act as if she does and bring him some assurance of companionship.

His last act in KL with his family: hurting Jaime by telling him that Cersei fucked many others, lying about killing Joffrey, and silently vowing to revenge himself against even Jaime along with Cersei. Kinslaying is an extreme taboo in Westeros and he'd be person non grata, vulnerable to anyone wishing him harm (another reason why he skips off to Essos). And he doesn't even have access to the Lannister reputation, protection, or wealth. He's on his own, he's burnt every bridge.

Tyrion is a case of the abused turned/turning into a monster. He is also the repackaged/"subverted" "Fool" (not Tarot) and Trickster capable of the greatest evils, selfish, capable of bringing about good (but for selfish or inadvertent ways/reasons), but far from that. He's eternally out of line, he's eternally hungry for "more", he enjoys himself and hates himself simultaneously, he's both blind and observant. Tyrion's a fucked up paradox.

As for show Tyrion, at surface level, a lot more genial and easier to root for. His wit and insecurity combined, plus the whitewashing, makes him a far more charming character than he is in the books, and again, I DO think book!him is charming in a very paradoxical bestial-blasé way.

But he still kills Shae in the show, so show!Tyrion still is not one of my favorites in terms of personhood. That will never be something he can be redeemed for in my eyes. The show allows him that grace where there is none, another point of detrimental whitewashing, especially in his assessment of Dany's supposed evil being seen as actually evil to the audience of seasons 7-8. And the show subsequently makes as if Shae deserved her death, that Tyrion had the right to kill her, that she owed herself to him and his subsequent "claim" over her, etc....because he fooled himself into thinking this was ever a real relationship/a relationship where he had all of the advantages and that his Tywin/Cersei wouldn't cross lines against him.

*EDIT #2* (8/27/23)

And to him, relationships are made up exactly of cold exchanges bc no one ever wanted him for him and they saw that his dwarfism was excuse enough to not try to love him or to drive in how unloveable he was. Because he has learned that he was a disgusting creature and love will likely always be out of his reach/denied to him, he is both pushed towards & seeks out what appear to be low-risk relationships. Aside from the fact that commonborn women are more within his reach than noble women as they are kept away from being virgins--ideally--on their wedding night and thus are very restricted i their overall interactions with any man/boy who aren't their fathers or brothers AND who like Sansa have probably dreamed of a handsome lord or a knight to be their husband, common-born women--esp. sex workers--do not require/cannot ask more of him than money or some protection. Because they do not invest in him emotionally or are unlikely to BUT also seek him out for protection and a living AND can never seemingly hurt him bc they lack the standing & genitals (aristocratic male privilege or just being of a house that could trouble the Lannnisters), he can theoretically slake his thirst for intimacy while maintaining his lover's ability to actually control him. Because he is their cash cow. However, his need for more love, real love, and a love for self eventually pushes him into looking to this person he designated as his new partner. She was his only means of intimacy, he could not feel like he'd get it anywhere else, so he convinced himself (despite his trie not to) that she eventually fell for him.

END of EDIT #2

In terms of character (adding to what's already said), he also made less sense bc of that whitewashing. Tamer and less angry than he should have been, a seemingly better person even though he was supposed to feel righteously dark retribution for Jaime, Tywin, Cersei, and all of King's Landing. Anyone he felt had wronged. Him. This emotion drives him to kill Shae, which gives that motivation seemingly more justice bc we barely get to see Shae's vulnerability & Tyriaomn's actual neglect of her as we should have seen in the books, too, so his progression after that made no sense to me.

ADDITIONALLY

A post by blankwhiteshield HERE really shows us the Lannister siblings and their relationship with love. This is what they conclude about Tyrion:

To Tyrion, love is unachievable, a right that he is not granted. The unlovable son that is viewed as broken from birth.

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evaunit-00 · 6 months

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posting a lot today bc i am BORED As fricK!!!!!! but i did my makeup in the bathroom and then sat outside and an old man was out there with me and it said no smoking but he was like do u mind …ill put it out if anyone else comes out…….and i said no of course not baby <3 i didnt actually say that but that was the tone i gave i think . i also saw a dog wearing a matching work vest as his owner and turns out hes the airport therapy dog?? pretty neat to me!! anyways i have just been doing laps back and forth bc i cannot sit still for more than 20 minutes but its so fun Looking at people like boy oh boy do i love Looking At People. lots of smexies in the airport today ill tell you that! and im one of em!!!! maybe the smexiest??? whos to say……. I definitely have the prettiest hair :3

also funny story my hair was accidentally light blue instead of light purple bc im fucking stupid (trust) but i had the genius idea of adding pink to the leftover diluted blue dye i had and just plopped it on in the shower and it made such a pretty color it makes me feel so awesome !!!!!!!!!!! like i feel like a fairy :) its awesome :)

ohuuhhhhhh my head is starting to hurt oh noooo idk if i need more csffiene or more water or more food hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. anyways. 3 more hours until i see my sweet julie girl :3 and like 20 hours until i MEET my sweet annie girl :3 so excited :3

do u see what happens when im not being texted 24/7 i have to do this! i have to just talk! anyways another thing i wanted to say. i find bronn to be……extremely sexy………idk if fhats an unpopular opinion but like that dude is so ridiculously hot in like. a nasty dirty way…..as i get older im realizing i appreciate the hotness and sexiness of men sooooo much more than i used to and im a better person for it (real).

blog #10373 over

edit: jk came to say i just watched s1 e9 <3 such a baller end scene seriously so badass and awesome even tho it hurts a little bit….but it was for the good of the series. the first time i watched that episode i was jaw dropped for like 5 minutes just staring at the black screen

cant wait for the wedding !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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dilebe06 · 2 years

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Tra drop, colpi di scena, rallentamenti e mafia...

Con l'arrivo dell'estate, del caldo e del richiamo del mare, la mia concentrazione nel vedere serie tv cala drasticamente. Il tempo è bello, fa caldo, ci sono esami da preparare...io non c'ho voglia di impegnare il cervello su " seguire trame" preferendo video random su YouTube.

Soprattutto quando vorresti disperatamente vederti - tra le nuove uscite - KinnPorsche o Tomorrow ma hai giurato che no! aspetterai che venga tutto tradotto!

Perciò da settimane, sono ferma sulle stesse due serie: Please Classmate e From Now, Showtime. Ma considero di finirli entrambi la prossima settimana.

EDIT: e così è stato.

Tuttavia i giorni passati settimane passate non sono stati tutti da buttare.

Roba di cui parlare c'è:

ad esempio che oggi inizia la terza stagione di Umbrella Academy, l'unica serie occidentale che seguo. E @ili91-efp se non l'hai vista...recuperala perché merita assolutamente. Garantiamo io e la @veronica-nardi.

Oppure dell'ipotesi di una serie tv spin off di GOT su Jon Snow. Qualcosa su cui non sentivo minimamente la mancanza. Ora, potrei parlare per ore e ore su quanto l'idea di una serie tv dove Jon Snow - quello della serie tv poi - ci mostra quanto è bello vivere oltre la barriera mi attiri quanto l'immagine di un cane che urina nel deserto.

Io a Jon voglio bene. Seriamente. La serie tv ha massacrato il suo personaggio ma in fin dei conti gli sono affezionata parecchio. Ma con tutte le storyline lasciate aperte, con tutti i personaggi misteriosi abbandonati dalla serie, tra tutti i finali alla mentula canis che D&D hanno lasciato aperti... vogliono fare uno spin off su quella che per me è la storyline più noiosa e meno interessante di tutte. Che cosa esattamente c'è da vedere su Jon Oltre la barriera?

Ma uno spin off su Arya che viaggia per il mondo e magari arriva a Valyria? Un excursus su Dorne dopo la fine dei Martell? Un approfondimento su quel "terribile" consiglio ristretto presieduto da Bran? Cosa è successo alle città libere dopo la morte di Dany?

No. Jon Snow che costruisce igloo nella neve.

Guarda, piuttosto come dice @veronica-nardi avrei preferito uno spin off su Bronn ed il suo castello. Ma comunque, l'unica cosa che potrebbe risvegliare il mio interesse su questo probabile spin off è se Jon torna a sud della Barriera.

Poi c'è il sogno della @veronica-nardi di un Jon che prende le armi e si ripiglia il trono di spade facendo valere la R+L ... ma quello è un sogno a occhi aperti.

Ah, la R+L ... lo senti il cuore che si sfracella sì?!

Approfitto del carattere allegro e gioviale di Jon Snow per parlare poi di Amensalism, drama taiwanese che io e Vero abbiamo droppato senza nessuna pietà.

Il collegamento tra quel musone di Jon Snow e questo drama non è causale, visto che il lead è interpretato dallo stesso attore di Attention, Love!

Prince Chiu - che Dio lo abbia in gloria - è strepitoso nel non avere espressioni e reagire alle vicende che gli capitano a tiro sempre con la stessa faccia impassibile. Raga' ci vuole abilità per questo!

Ovviamente interpreta sempre lo stesso personaggio psicopatico e sull'orlo della depressione...ma sono sicuramente le sue scarse doti attoriali a farne uno dei miei personaggi preferiti: vederlo in scena mi fa rivalutare tanti altri attori che ho forse accusato troppo frettolosamente di non saper recitare. Io lo vedo e mi piego dalle risate.

Amensalism però ha l'aggravante di aver pure la protagonista non propriamente convincente. Idem i comprimari: con il risultato che il cast pare composto da cani che non aiuta ad immedesimarti nella storia.

Ma la storia appunto, come è?

Non è che si sia capito molto ma da quello che ho intuito, Amensalism parla di un bambino che muore e sulla strada per l'aldilà, Dio o chi per lui, gli propone di salvargli la vita in cambio di una persona a sua scelta. Il bambino fa il nome di una sua compagna di scuola - rea di averlo accusato ingiustamente di furto - che si rivelerà essere la lead. A quel punto, il bambino viene avvolto da fiori rossi che gli comprimono il cuore e che glielo stringeranno fino a fargli venire ictus ogni volta che è nelle vicinanze di qualcuno che muore. #nientedomandeplease

Stacco. Siamo nel presente e il bambino è diventato PrincePsyco, bodyguard dal superpotere di poter prevedere la morte delle persone. Ci viene detto che durante la crescita ha tentato di salvare vite usando il suo potere ma che ha sempre fallito.

Nel mentre la bambina maledetta dal mini lead è diventata un avvocato (senza arte). Seriamente, uno degli avvocati peggiori che io abbia mai visto. Ed ecco che incontra il lead in un bar. Prince Psyco riconosce subito la ragazza come quella che lui ha maledetto ed a metà della quarta puntata è già mezzo innamorato di lei. #ilperchérimarràunmistero

I due lead si conosceranno e faranno amicizia, fino al punto che uniranno le forze per salvare i morti che Prince Psyco prevede. E potrei essere una cagacazzi nel ricordare come quando Prince rivela alla protagonista i suoi poteri,quella, anziché portarlo in una clinica psichiatrica, gli crede immediatamente e proponga la collab in virtù di essere gli eroi dei poveri e salvare vite. Manco la tensione sanno fare.

Solo che c'è un problema: i due lead riescono a salvare la vita ad una persona di cui il lead aveva previsto la morte...ma si scopre che per par condicio si fa male la protagonista. Insomma, se salvano la vita ad una persona qualcun 'altro si farà male al posto suo. Non solo. Viene fuori - non ricordo assolutamente come - che per via della maledizione scagliata da piccoli, più Prince Psyco vive, meno vivrà la lead. #zanzanzaaaaaaaaaan

Il tutto questo bordello altre due cose: un serial killer che miete vittime perché sì e l'incidente che ha causato la morte dei genitori della lead e su cui la protagonista sta investigando.

Lo so, detta così sta serie sembra una gran figata. Un super fantasy con una storia d'amore e morte travagliata e con un pizzico di investigazione.

Ma tenendo a mente le incredibili doti attoriali del cast, ho trovato la serie davvero difficile da gestire: una marea di cose che succedono senza motivo e sopratutto senza il mio minimo interesse. Ma poi troppe cose: serial killer, ictus, investigazioni, misteri... non sono riuscita a stargli dietro.

Oltre a questo, non è che i due lead fossero tutta sta attrattiva. La protagonista - forse per fare il paio con Prince Psyco - pareva bipolare. Mentre Prince, forse memore del suo ruolo in Attention, love! , ritirava fuori quel " vorrei stare con te. Ma non posso. E allora ti sto dietro ma non troppo." Roba da prenderlo a badilate nei denti.

Io e la vero abbiamo resistito per un pò...ma poi è stato più forte di noi e siamo state costrette a dropparlo per preservare la nostra sanità mentale: io di vedere Prince Psyco che angsta - male tra l'altro - perché non può stare con la lead, non me lo merito.

Ed è così che siamo sbarcate tra le rassicuranti braccia di Vincenzo. Big Boss per gli amici.

Vincenzo è stata una boccata d'aria fresca: non solo perché rispetto ad Amentalist il cast è decisamente più preparato ma anche perché la sceneggiatura, scrittura, narrativa e TUTTO il resto, è decisamente meglio del drama taiwanese di cui sopra.

Senza andare troppo per lo specifico su questo drama e cercando di essere sbrigativa, le cose che mi hanno colpito sono:

L'Italia. Poiché Vincenzo è mezzo italiano, l'italia viene buttata nel mezzo della serie ogni tre per due...ed io ho adorato questa cosa. Il Bel Paese viene rappresentato sì stereotipato, ma in modo bello. Quasi celebrativo. Devo dire che mi sono sentita onorata di essere italiana.

Big Boss. Attore bravissimo e convincente, il buon Big Boss mi ha fatto tornare la fede nella professione attoriale dopo quella brutta prova di Prince Chiu e lo amerò sempre per questo. Egli riesce a dare espressione e caratterizzazione al suo personaggio passando da spietato mafioso a personaggio comico in mezza puntata. Stupendo.

La Lead. Questa protagonista è davvero interessante, divertente, tosta e stronza tutto nello stesso momento. Lei si allontana decisamente dalle solite lead tutte acqua e sapone pronte per la Santità salendo direttamente sul carro di Satana, come una Regina. Esattamente come Vincenzo - ma un pò meno - la lead è un personaggio grigio e sfaccettato e per questo diecimila volte più bella di qualsiasi altra lead.

I condomini. Una gabbia di matti che alla fine amera. Dal ex gangster ora dirigente di un agenzia di viaggi su mongolfiera per criminali che vogliono lasciare il paese, ad ex lottatori olimpici di sport da combattimento. Da agenti segreti in incognito ad hacker super inquietanti... i personaggi che ruotano attorno al condominio sono uno più caricatura dell'altro, ma proprio per questo l'ho trovati adorabili. Sono ovviamente caricaturali ma poiché tutta la serie è impregnata di sottile caricatorialità, i condomini sono la rappresentazione perfetta di tutto ciò.

Il genere. Vincenzo è un genere Commedia con Crime e Law ma credo che si sia mischiato il tutto in un modo esemplare. La serie fa ridere, tanto. Ma allo stesso tempo ha momenti di criminalità e botte e scene dove la legge la fa da padrone. Ed il tutto è mixato così perfettamente che non mi sono mai annoiata in 20 episodi da un ora a botta. Complimenti. Inoltre è tutto volutamente esagerato e comico cosicché sembra che la stessa serie si prenda per il culo da sola.

Qui per ricordare quando Vincenzo venne salvato dalla morte da un piccione e dai suoi amici.

Le azioni di Vincenzo. Vincenzo è uno stereotipo su gambe. Lui è un fenomeno: spara, combatte, intriga. E' bello, affascinante, astuto, ricco, saggio, ha il caz...o di un metro.[cit] E' sempre un passo avanti a tutti. Sa sempre tutto e risolve ogni cosa senza nessun problema. Questa caratterizzazione potrebbe essere fastidiosa poiché troppo perfetto, ma siccome è resa in modo divertente e allo stesso tempo volutamente epico, non mi ha dato fastidio ma anzi mi sono divertita parecchio.

Cosa che poi ho amato particolarmente è il modus operandi da mafioso di Vincenzo. Nel giro di 20 episodi avrà ammazzato almeno una decina di persone. Forse di più. E ho amato che le abbia uccise torturandole. Ora, non dico questo perché amo la tortura. Anzi. Ma se mi fai una serie con protagonista un mafioso che ammazza senza starci troppo a pensare, così mi deve rimanere. Perché ragazzi...è un attimo che a questi lead prendano la strada della santità e diventino dei Buoni Samaritani, tutti pace amore e buoni sentimenti.

6) Il burattino. Lo ammetto: quando è morto ho pianto. Il povero fratello di Babu era l'unico personaggio vagamente realistico della serie e quello più umano di tutti. Ed io l'ho amato per questo. Tantissimo. La sua bromance con Vincenzo - che certe volte, da certi sguardi pareva un BL - era così carina e commovente che ho davvero tifato per lui. Soprattutto mi piaceva la sua indecisione nell'uccidere suo fratello: forse non sarà stato il personaggio più intelligente della storia ma sicuramente è stato il migliore.

Ma quindi è tutto oro?

No, manco per il caz..o.

Prima di tutto, non mi è piaciuta la storyline della mamma di Vincenzo. A me di questa donna - di cui non mi sconfinferava manco la caratterizzazione troppo remissiva - non mi è mai fregato nulla e quando è morta non ho provato niente se non un sentimento di liberazione perché finalmente si chiudeva la sua storyline. Io non so quale sia stato il mio problema con lei: la caratterizzazione? il fatto che c'erano personaggi più interessanti di lei? l'eccessiva storia drammatica che sfiorava il pietismo?

Altro dramma negativo sono stati i villain della storia. A parte la procuratrice - unico vero nemico con del cervello - Babu è stata una mezza delusione. Pareva un fenomeno tale da impegnare Vincenzo ma alla fine è risultato solo uno psicopatico violento senza un guizzo di astuzia. Vincenzo l'ha fregato in tutti i modi possibili e lui si è ritrovato a fare da pedina nel piano del suo nemico senza nemmeno rendersene conto.

Perché chiariamoci: uccidere la madre di Vincenzo è stata una stronzata. Se l'obbiettivo era eliminare Vincenzo o farlo tornare in Italia, l'assassino della madre come avrebbe potuto aiutare a raggiungere questo risultato? L'hanno ammazzata solo per farlo incazzare. Ma ai fini dei loro piani... si sono solo dati la zappa nei piedi da soli.

Concludendo Vincenzo è un drama da vedere. Perfetto per farsi intrattenere, offre una storia intrigante e carina con personaggi ben caratterizzati e volutamente caricati per strappare la risata e alleggerire il tutto. Super consigliato.

Voto: 8.3

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iheartbadguys · 20 days

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magpiejay1234 · 1 year

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https://yu-gi-oh.jp/news_detail.php?page=details&&id=1571

https://yugioh-starlight.com/archives/57477251.html

It is that most wonderful time of the year for the YGO animé fandom once more. Yes, today’s reveals feature the new Animation Chronicle 2023 stuff.

The pack artwork features the new artwork for Junk Warrior, and Sergey Volkov’s Earthbound Servant Geo Grash.

The cards revealed are:

**Dinosaur Ryuzak/Rex Raptor’s Kaitoptera, and Horned Saurus from DM.

**Brron, Mad King of Dark World’s Colorless, Chaos King of Dark World from GX.

**Syd/Syd Barlow’s Combat Wheel, and Tenzen Yanagi’s Ashoka Pillar, Cabrera Stone, Triangle O, and Totem Pole.

**Yusaku Fujiki/Playmaker’s Drastic Draw, Transaction Rollback, and Code Hack.

The reprints are:

**Doppelwarrior

**Jet Synchron

**Satellite Synchron

**De-Synchro

**Synchro Chase

The translations:

https://ygorganization.com/escapetherealofthejunkyard/

https://ygorganization.com/ohmygoditsabirdcage/

Edit: Misspelled Brron as Bronn. The other translations are:

https://ygorganization.com/fromtwocomeone/

https://ygorganization.com/stealthlabyrinthsupport/

https://ygorganization.com/whippinexcursion/

https://ygorganization.com/dontunderestimatehispower/

#shitposting #ygo random thoughts #ygo dm #ygo gx #ygo 5d's #ygo vrains

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ao3feed-tywin · 1 year

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Westeros Watches A Different Future

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by TheNecroKing44

The people of Westeros have been transported to a theater to watch a different future. One where there is a land west of Westeros, a land of monsters with new players entering the game. With them is a familiar figure, Jon Snow, alongside the terrors of the west. Dragons, Monstrosities, and Aberration await them, either as allies against the White Walkers or their doom.

Words: 3221, Chapters: 1/?, Language: English

Fandoms: Dungeons & Dragons (Roleplaying Game), A Song of Ice and Fire - George R. R. Martin, Game of Thrones (TV)

Rating: Mature

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings, Major Character Death

Categories: F/M

Characters: Jon Snow, Daenerys Targaryen, Ned Stark, Robb Stark, Catelyn Tully Stark, Bran Stark, Arya Stark, Sansa Stark, Cersei Lannister, Tywin Lannister, Tyrion Lannister, Jaime Lannister, Brienne of Tarth, Robert Baratheon, Stannis Baratheon, Davos Seaworth, Renly Baratheon, Shireen Baratheon, Theon Greyjoy, Jorah Mormont, Tommen Baratheon, Joffrey Baratheon, Myrcella Baratheon, Samwell Tarly, Gendry (A Song of Ice and Fire), Barristan Selmy, Petyr Baelish, Jon Arryn, Lysa Tully Arryn, Varys (A Song of Ice and Fire), Mace Tyrell, Olenna Tyrell, Margaery Tyrell, Loras Tyrell, Grand Maester Pycelle (A Song of Ice and Fire), Doran Martell, Oberyn Martell, Brynden "Blackfish" Tully, Edmure Tully, Original Vampire Character(s) (Dungeons & Dragons), Original Dungeons & Dragons Character(s), Original Characters, Sandor Clegane, Tormund Giantsbane, Bronn (A Song of Ice and Fire)

Relationships: Jon Snow/Original Female Character(s), Ashara Dayne/Ned Stark

Additional Tags: Reaction, Game of Thrones-Typical Violence, Watching the Show, watching the future, Alternate Universe - Canon Divergence, N Plus A Equals J | Ashara Dayne and Ned Stark are Jon Snow's Parents, Dark Jon Snow, Vampire Jon Snow, BAMF Jon Snow, Dungeons & Dragons 5th Edition, Alternate Universe - Dungeons & Dragons, Human/Vampire Relationship, Blood Drinking, Canon-Typical Violence, White Walkers (A Song of Ice and Fire), Jon Snow Doesn't Join the Night's Watch, Jealous Jon Snow, Beholders (Dungeons & Dragons), Dragons, Illithids | Mind Flayers (Dungeons & Dragons), Jon Snow is Not a Targaryen

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#ao3feed #fanfic #ao3feed tywin #ao3feed tywin lannister

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levithestripper · 2 years

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Ser Loras Tyrell’s Masterlist

Headcanons:

➳ Sex Habits with Jaime Lannister, Bronn, Renly Baratheon, Loras Tyrell, and Sandor Clegane

Edits:

➳ GOT Season 2 Episode 4: Garden of Bones— gifset one

#jack's masterlist #levithestripper's masterlist #—loras tyrell #—game of thrones

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bluemoon-nymph · 3 years

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There is no one who is completely good or completely bad, there are just people who make choices.

#game of thrones #game of thrones edit #daenerys targaryen #jorah mormont #melisandre #theon greyjoy #theon stark #daenerys stormborn #cersei lannister #bronn of the blackwater #jamie lannister #ellaria sand #sand snakes

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agentrouka-blog · 3 years

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Tyrion and Tysha murder mystery hints - first mention in the text

This thing just keeps tugging at me, and this recent thread made me ambitious to examine it in more detail. So I’ll look at hints for an even darker edge to the story of Tyrion and Tysha in the parts of the text that actually mention her.

Since I have limited time, I’ll do several posts. This one is about how we learn about Tysha in A Game of Thrones.

We head into AGOT, Tyrion VI via a chapter transition from AGOT, Jon V, where Jon talks Maester Aemon into choosing Samwell as his assistant. In the presence of his current assistant Chett, who - it is revealed later in the ASOS Prologue - murdered a girl he liked for rejecting him.

Chett gave a nasty laugh. “I’ve seen what happens to soft lordlings when they’re put to work. Set them to churning butter and their hands blister and bleed. Give them an axe to split logs, and they cut off their own foot.”

“I know one thing Sam could do better than anyone.”

“Yes?” Maester Aemon prompted.

Jon glanced warily at Chett, standing beside the door, his boils red and angry. “He could help you,” he said quickly. “He can do sums, and he knows how to read and write. I know Chett can’t read, and Clydas has weak eyes. Sam read every book in his father’s library. He’d be good with the ravens too. Animals seem to like him. Ghost took to him straight off. There’s a lot he could do, besides fighting. The Night’s Watch needs every man. Why kill one, to no end? Make use of him instead.”

Maester Aemon closed his eyes, and for a brief moment Jon was afraid that he had gone to sleep. Finally he said, “Maester Luwin taught you well, Jon Snow. Your mind is as deft as your blade, it would seem.”

“Does that mean …?”

“It means I shall think on what you have said,” the maester told him firmly. “And now, I believe I am ready to sleep. Chett, show our young brother to the door.”

(AGOT, Jon V)

The chapter is followed by AGOT, Tyrion VI, where Tyrion and Bronn rest on the high road after being kicked out of the Gates of the Moon, after he won his trial by combat:

They had taken shelter beneath a copse of aspens just off the high road. Tyrion was gathering dead-wood while their horses took water from a mountain stream. He stooped to pick up a splintered branch and examined it critically. “Will this do? I am not practiced at starting fires. Morrec did that for me.”

The entire conversation between Jon, Aemon and Chett sets up Tyrion. A lordling, bad with manual labor, but smart and a reader. Yet we know he is no Samwell Tarly in his sensibilities, and the last sentence is dedicated to Chett.

Chett...

The only women Chett had ever known were the whores he’d bought in Mole’s Town. When he’d been younger, the village girls took one look at his face, with its boils and its wen, and turned away sickened. The worst was that slattern Bessa. She’d spread her legs for every boy in Hag’s Mire so he’d figured why not him too? He even spent a morning picking wildflowers when he heard she liked them, but she’d just laughed in his face and told him she’d crawl in a bed with his father’s leeches before she’d crawl in one with him. She stopped laughing when he put his knife in her. That was sweet, the look on her face, so he pulled the knife out and put it in her again. When they caught him down near Sevenstreams, old Lord Walder Frey hadn’t even bothered to come himself to do the judging. He’d sent one of his bastards, that Walder Rivers, and the next thing Chett had known he was walking to the Wall with that foul-smelling black devil Yoren. To pay for his one sweet moment, they took his whole life.

But now he meant to take it back, and Craster’s women too. That twisted old wildling has the right of it. If you want a woman to wife you take her, and none of this giving her flowers so that maybe she don’t notice your bloody boils. Chett didn’t mean to make that mistake again.

Like Tyrion, Chett is rejected by others for his appearance, has a violent father and a lot of resentment that comes out in the shape of murdering “slatterns”. He also mixes it up with the idea of marriage. Like Tyrion, the cold night reminds Chett of the girl in his past.

He could see Bessa’s face floating before him. It wasn’t the knife I wanted to put in you, he wanted to tell her. I picked you flowers, wild roses and tansy and goldencups, it took me all morning. His heart was thumping like a drum, so loud he feared it might wake the camp. Ice caked his beard all around his mouth. Where did that come from, with Bessa? Whenever he’d thought of her before, it had only been to remember the way she’d looked, dying. What was wrong with him?

Chett killed her in a rage, but the truth is layered and haunts him.

But back to Tyrion.

Tyrion VI emphasizes Tyrion’s cleverness as he converses with Bronn, explaining his strategy in the Vale for how to steal Bronn from Cat’s service and make use of his practical talents, and his strategy for their travels in the Mountains of the Moon. Tyrion talks, Bronn listens and agrees to serve him.

The point is, Tyrion is very observant and smart. Reader, trust Tyrion’s judgent and words, is the message. Then we get more personal.

As they light a fire and eat a goat, Tyrion remembers his goaler Mord who treated him cruelly in the sky cells.

(Mord, btw, translates to murder in many a germanic/Scandinvian language.)

“And yet you gave the turnkey a purse of gold,” Bronn said.

“A Lannister always pays his debts.”

Even Mord had scarcely believed it when Tyrion tossed him the leather purse. The gaoler’s eyes had gone big as boiled eggs as he yanked open the drawstring and beheld the glint of gold. “I kept the silver,” Tyrion had told him with a crooked smile, “but you were promised the gold, and there it is.” It was more than a man like Mord could hope to earn in a lifetime of abusing prisoners. “And remember what I said, this is only a taste. If you ever grow tired of Lady Arryn’s service, present yourself at Casterly Rock, and I’ll pay you the rest of what I owe you.” With golden dragons spilling out of both hands, Mord had fallen to his knees and promised that he would do just that.

The image of coins spilling from hands is picked up later.

Tyrion was hoping to lure in the mountain clans, but they take their time showing up, so he tries to be even more conspicuous.

Tyrion chuckled. “Then we ought to sing and send them fleeing in terror.” He began to whistle a tune.

He chooses the “terrible” tune himself. It leads straight to his memory:

“Myrish. ‘The Seasons of My Love.’ Sweet and sad, if you understand the words. The first girl I ever bedded used to sing it, and I’ve never been able to put it out of my head.” Tyrion gazed up at the sky. It was a clear cold night and the stars shone down upon the mountains as bright and merciless as truth. “I met her on a night like this,” he heard himself saying. “Jaime and I were riding back from Lannisport when we heard a scream, and she came running out into the road with two men dogging her heels, shouting threats.

Myrish, as in the Myrish lens. The object Lysa sends Catelyn, which has a false bottom hiding the real message in a secret language, a message of murder and conspiracy. A secret language, a foreign language, like Mord.

"A lens is an instrument to help us see." (AGOT, Catelyn II)

Bright and merciless as truth.

My brother unsheathed his sword and went after them, while I dismounted to protect the girl. She was scarcely a year older than I was, dark-haired, slender, with a face that would break your heart. It certainly broke mine. Lowborn, half-starved, unwashed … yet lovely. They’d torn the rags she was wearing half off her back, so I wrapped her in my cloak while Jaime chased the men into the woods. By the time he came trotting back, I’d gotten a name out of her, and a story. She was a crofter’s child, orphaned when her father died of fever, on her way to … well, nowhere, really.

Where Tysha went will become a theme. @une-nuit-pour-se-souvenir examines that beautifully here.

But even right here, the tone is ominous, and GRRM goes out of his way to emphasize it with the ellipses.

We get the story of Jaime chasing after the outlaws and Tyrion and Tysha falling into bed at an inn after drinking, eating and talking, and the story of their marriage, and its end.

Tyrion was surprised at how desolate it made him feel to say it, even after all these years. Perhaps he was just tired. “That was the end of my marriage.” He sat up and stared at the dying fire, blinking at the light.

“He sent the girl away?”

“He did better than that,” Tyrion said. “First he made my brother tell me the truth. The girl was a whore, you see. Jaime arranged the whole affair, the road, the outlaws, all of it. He thought it was time I had a woman. He paid double for a maiden, knowing it would be my first time.

NOTHING about this makes sense, which is ridiculous when you consider we were just hammered over the head with how smart Tyrion is supposed to be.

Since when is Jaime prone to setting up complex schemes? Why would feel the need to push Tyrion to have sex at thirteen, and why would be ever do it this way? Why would be hire him a virgin for his first time? We don’t question it because GRRM has told us not to question the smartiepants. But as we later learn, that was all. not. true. So maybe other things aren’t true, either.

“After Jaime had made his confession, to drive home the lesson, Lord Tywin brought my wife in and gave her to his guards. They paid her fair enough. A silver for each man, how many whores command that high a price? He sat me down in the corner of the barracks and bade me watch, and at the end she had so many silvers the coins were slipping through her fingers and rolling on the floor, she …” The smoke was stinging his eyes. Tyrion cleared his throat and turned away from the fire, to gaze out into darkness. “Lord Tywin had me go last,” he said in a quiet voice. “And he gave me a gold coin to pay her, because I was a Lannister, and worth more.”

The parallels to his memory of Mord are striking. Silver and gold, coins spilling from hands, a “price” beyond expectation... and a promise of something very sinister at the next meeting.

After a time he heard the noise again, the rasp of steel on stone as Bronn sharpened his sword. “Thirteen or thirty or three, I would have killed the man who did that to me.”

1) Nice how Bronn makes it about Tyrion’s pain. Tysha’s pain does not exist to them. And so the reader is also drawn away from it. Poor Tyrion.

2) Another reference to killing. It foreshadows Tyrion’s murder of Tywin over this very matter, of course, but at the same time...

Tyrion gestured impatiently with the bow. “Tysha. What did you do with her, after my little lesson?”

“I don’t recall.”

“Try harder. Did you have her killed?”

His father pursed his lips. “There was no reason for that, she’d learned her place … and had been well paid for her day’s work, I seem to recall. I suppose the steward sent her on her way. I never thought to inquire.”

“On her way where?”

“Wherever whores go.”

Tyrion’s finger clenched. (ASOS, Tyrion XI)

I don’t think it can be emphasized enough that this happens right after he murders Shae. Shae the whore.

“Did you ever like it?” He cupped her cheek, remembering all the times he had done this before. All the times he’d slid his hands around her waist, squeezed her small firm breasts, stroked her short dark hair, touched her lips, her cheeks, her ears. All the times he had opened her with a finger to probe her secret sweetness and make her moan. “Did you ever like my touch?”

“More than anything,” she said, “my giant of Lannister.”

That was the worst thing you could have said, sweetling.

Tyrion slid a hand under his father’s chain, and twisted. The links tightened, digging into her neck. “For hands of gold are always cold, but a woman’s hands are warm,” he said. He gave cold hands another twist as the warm ones beat away his tears.

And just before he asks him about Tysha, Tywin assures him he was meant to be sent to the Wall. Whether or not that’s a lie, we’re looking at another Chett parallel. Murdering a “slattern”, facing life at the Wall.

We close Tyrion’s memory of Tysha:

Tyrion swung around to face him. “You may get that chance one day. Remember what I told you. A Lannister always pays his debts.” He yawned. “I think I will try and sleep. Wake me if we’re about to die.”

He rolled himself up in the shadowskin and shut his eyes. The ground was stony and cold, but after a time Tyrion Lannister did sleep. He dreamt of the sky cell. This time he was the gaoler, not the prisoner, big, with a strap in his hand, and he was hitting his father, driving him back, toward the abyss …

Like Chett, his thoughts return to the girl. He turns into the goaler, Mord, his rage comes through, his capability of great violence. In ASOS, his lashing out at Tywin is preceeded by directing his violence toward the “whore” who allegedly betrayed him. Which is preceeded by a truth about Tysha.

“Thank you?” Tyrion’s voice was choked. “He gave her to his guards. A barracks full of guards. He made me … watch.” Aye, and more than watch. I took her too … my wife …

“I never knew he would do that. You must believe me.”

“Oh, must I?” Tyrion snarled. “Why should I believe you about anything, ever? She was my wife!”

“Tyrion—”

He hit him. It was a slap, backhanded, but he put all his strength into it, all his fear, all his rage, all his pain. Jaime was squatting, unbalanced. The blow sent him tumbling backward to the floor. “I … I suppose I earned that.”

“Oh, you’ve earned more than that, Jaime. You and my sweet sister and our loving father, yes, I can’t begin to tell you what you’ve earned. But you’ll have it, that I swear to you. A Lannister always pays his debts.” Tyrion waddled away, almost stumbling over the turnkey again in his haste. Before he had gone a dozen yards, he bumped up against an iron gate that closed the passage. Oh, gods. It was all he could do not to scream.

(ASOS, Tyrion XI)

The turnkey here is interesting. Once again, Tysha’s memory is associated with a cell and the presence of a turnkey. In his anguished memory, Tyrion almost stumbles over him. The last turnkey was Mord.

So, just looking at Tysha’s first mention, there are so many ominous connections. Murder murder murder.

The chapter ends with Tyrion meeting and “hiring” the mountain clans. How? To avenge himself on Lysa Arryn, he promises them the entire Vale. Really driving home that “a Lannister pays his debts” is all about disproportionate retribution.

A few chapter later, to create some distance to this dark tale, Tyrion meets Shae and sets up to re-create his entire Tysha trauma. The two are intertwined, so why should their ends not be?

That’s fodder for a different post, though.

#asoiaf #anti tyrion lannister #tysha #murder mystery #long post #Shae #tywin lannister #bronn #mismemory #memory edit

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