#descendant and ancestor

[hoofpeet]

Modern Unicorn (left) next to extinct megafauna ancestor (right).. Based partially off of the extinct Kyptoceras + cave painting horses*

#hoof draws #* realistically horses actually became bigger over the course of their evolution so cave ponies would be smaller #but i wanted the pony ancestor to be mega fuckers #idk. the concept of mlp horses being descended from a megafauna caveman species is fun #++also since unicorns are usually depicted with cloven hooves it would make sense for them to be descended from a bovine/cervine species #of which kyptoceras are neither I think? iirc the entire family is extinct

[nell0-0]

Drew this just for funsies, don't look too hard into it sos

More of this HERE

#submas #submas au #subway bosses #tloz fairy submas #clan leader irida #pla irida #kid irida #irida #volo #skull kid volo #sneasler #great fairy sneasler #she's the great fairy of the Cliffs #instead of “hey listen” Emmet's catchphrase as a fairy is “I am Emmet” #and Ingo's is “bravo” #ingo and emmet can shapeshift between fairy and hylian forms #but Ingo forgor #my art #pla #pla au #volo knew what he was doing when he put on that mask #Hisui as Termina #so the lookalikes aren't ancestors/descendants but alternate versions #once back in Hyrule Ingo would go looking for Irida's alternate #he's too used to traveling now much to Emmet's consternation

[clouvu]

Handsome woman

#genshin impact #arlecchino #ever since they gave us arlecchino with her bangs slicked back i have not known peace #everyday my ancestors look upon their descendant in horror because I am lusting over a pixelated french woman

[brother-emperors]

TRY AGAIN LATER

it's like. well. its several things.

(Plutarch's Crassus, trans. Warner)

and also this

(ibid.)

that compliment sounds like an insult, baby.

anyway, there's a fun kind of eroticism in being given everything, in taking things that aren't yours without any real consequence, in climbing towards becoming a Roman Alexander, only for one man to deny you, over and over and over again, at every turn. Sulla tried, Crassus did it better. who would put a butcher in their place? who else knows you well enough to do it? who else can match you step for step like this? doesn't it feel like a kind of intimacy, a kind of—

it's also about the 'even sulla kissed my sword/so you want me on my knees too?' innuendo was too good to pass up. that was actually the first line I wrote, I figured out the rest of this to justify making a comic with it

and finally! the sword line is referencing/playing off of Lucan's Pharsalia a little bit because it fucks hard

(Lucan's Pharsalia, trans. Jane Wilson Joyce)

EDIT: oh, and that's a public domain anatomical illustration of a heart. you know how it is with love and hate.

#marcus licinius crassus #gnaeus pompeius magnus #tris homines #komiks tag #roman republic tag #drawing tag #its about how many ways i can create situations where i have crassus call pompey a brat #the subtext going on here is that pompey and sulla are in the middle of their political falling out #and pompey is like. okay motherfucker. and crassus is something that sulla had under his hand #but uhhhhhh. its not going that well for pompey. because sulla got there first #and left his mark #dont worry tho pompey you'll get him in the end. your descendants are going to marry each other #and name two of their sons directly after both of you!! fucking wild. LOVE it #can't get much closer than that! altho pompey did try something when he married publius crassus' widow #crassus himself however holds true to his statement of 'no one is ever going to touch me ever again.' #he's like. not alive right either so it'd be hard to pin him down anyway #too haunted. your ghosts your dead your ancestors have escaped your family house buddy

[bucephaly]

It's kinda shocking to me how few people seem to know how prevalent the 'my great grandmother was cherokee' myth is and how it's almost never actually true, especially when it comes with things like 'never signed up' or 'fell off the trail' or 'courthouse burned down destorying the documentation' etc etc.

People just don't even seem to know the history like.. when the Trail happened. My great great great grandfather was 2 years old during Removal in 1838, so peoples 'my great grandmother hid in the mountains!' is so clearly wrong. And we have rolls. From before and after removal, rolls done by cherokee nation and others by the government, rolls that were not stored in one random flammable courthouse. It's not difficult to find the actual evidence of ancestry.

And just.. there are lots of ways those family stories get started. It was a practice during the confederacy to claim cherokee ancestry to show one's family had 'deep roots in the south' that they were there before the cherokee were removed. Many people pretended to be cherokee and applied for the Guion-Miller payout just to try to steal money meant for cherokees - 2/3rds of the applicants were denied for having 0 proof of actual cherokee ancestry. [We even see lawyers advertising signing up for the Miller roll just to try to get free money.] And the myth even started in some families in the cherokee land lotteries, where the land stolen from us was raffled off, including the house and everything that was left behind when the cherokees were removed. We have seen people whose families just take these things stolen from the cherokee family and adopt them into their own family story, saying that they were cherokee themselves.

If you had some family story about being cherokee and you wanna have proof one way or the other, check out this Facebook group run by expert cherokee genealogists that do research for free. Just please read the rules fully and respect the researchers. They run thousands of people's ancestries a year and their average is only around 0.7% of lines they run actually end up having true cherokee ancestry.

#and ive heard even dumber origins of the cherokee family myth #such as an ancestor having a silly sounding name so the descendents just go 'oh she mustve been an indian!!!' #i was one of the few people who had my ancestry done on the facebook and had genuine cherokee ancestry #[though i had found it before it was just really validating to get it double checked and i started finding cousins (:] #like. i was told once when i was a kid by my grandma that my dad had cherokee ancestry and i didnt believe her. its wild that so many peopl #will make it a Fixture of their identity [or even just smth they bring up ever] with Zero proof #at least for cherokees from what ive seen its usually considered really disrespectful to claim to have cherokee ancestry without #actually having the documentation [like ancestors on the rolls] #and no a dna test doesnt count. nor does 'my dad is Clearly not white!' or 'high cheekbones' or old family photos or anything #i had this discussion with someone recently whose dad had been calling himself 3/4 native but didnt know exactly what nation ???? hello? #and its like... sorry but ur dad is like. italian lol. #[and blood quantum is bullshit anyway im tired of the 'im 1/16 cherokee' comments its dumb #cherokee nation does not have a blood quantum requirement. its pointless bringing it up in the discussion of who is or isnt cherokee] #also mandatory disclaimer that im reconnecting. i didnt grow up connected to the culture of even knowing my ancestry #this is all from my looking into this stuff over the past year or so. i cant claim to be an authority over anything regarding this #this is p much all my repeating things ive heard said by people who know a lot more than i do haha #man. and this isnt even starting to get into the fake tribe stuff. the only legit cherokee groups are the 3 federally recognized bands #cherokee nation of oklahoma. united keetoowah band. and the eastern band of cherokee indians. #any others that are state recognized or not at all arent acknowledged as legitimate by any of the legit cherokee groups #anyway. my final message goodb.ye #cherokee #tsalagi

[praazlwurm]

Giratina's Temple and the Celestica Ruins

aka Giratina/platinum clan theory is back (also sorry for using mspaint lmao)

So we all know about the Shrouded Ruins, yeah?

(This is the only spoiler warning for Pokemon Legends: Arceus you're gonna get)

Spooky. Ever-cloaked in mists and mystery, surrounded by black-stoned cairns like graves and home to the giant Odd Keystone that once (?) housed 108 souls. Very ghost-centric.

Well what if I told you it was a temple?

Greco-roman temples (and, problematic or otherwise the celestica are absolutely greco-roman coded) are constructed relatively uniformly, with an outer later of columns holding up the roof and an inner layer holding up an internal structure, providing additional support, ect.

We have a perfect in-game model to project from, too, in the Temple of Sinnoh (pre-explosion). You can see that some of the smaller columns are sometimes decorative - likely they held up torches or, in the case of the two nearest the 'altar,' offerings

So knowing that style and having the remaining structures we do see in-game, we can approximate a lay out of what the building may have looked like.

What makes this a temple, however, is more open to interpretation. My evidence to support that it is is actually the blue-tinged pedestals seen within the outline of the building - the place(s) of honor in any temple. Irl, the inner structure - the cella - was often fully-walled in, though sometimes this was constructed via wood and other materials that don't withstand time.

Now, ENORMOUS shout-out to pokemaniacchris and the incredible Crimson Mirelands Archeological Survey Project for a really detailed, in-character breakdown of the ruins structures throughout the mirelands. I can only assume the 'surveyors' hadn't reached Mt. Coronet yet in their explorations.

Pedestals like these (at least superficially similar) are found beneath dozens of statues around Mt. Coronet, including beneath Giratina, Palkia and Dialga in the Sacred Plaza area. Now, I know I'm supposed to be claiming that this is a temple to Giratina, but if we work on the assumption that the four pedestals corollate with Giratina, Palkia, Dialga, and Arceus, a new conclusion can, perhaps, be drawn:

That whoever built this temple saw all four of them on the same 'level' of power or -- and this is my hc taking over -- if the statues were placed in a certain orientation (see below) that they saw Arceus and Giratina on equal footing, with Dialga and Palkia one rank below.

And there is, imo, more evidence to support this disruption of the 'creation trio' into two pairs on equal footing, found in the Celestica Ruins! So, among the structures there are two notable, circular buildings that the Greeks also utilized, called tholoi (plural). Irl, tholoi were a mix of secular-use and small-scale temples, and seeing as these two are small (maybe 10ft across inside?) I would maintain the claim that they're small temples.

And they align/mirror each other just as the statues of Palkia and Dialga do.

This part becomes pure conjecture, but I like to think the smaller structures in the ruins might be other small-scale temples for the various mythicals, honoring each much as the Greeks honored a pantheon.

Lastly, the CMASP describes the "Gapejaw Bog Complex" as being potentially an entire agora all its own and I can't agree more. Such evidence would support the idea of there being two groups of Celestica (Note: Not the Clans.)

I actually found myself wondering if the mirelands weren't always quite so swampy, and instead flooded at some point in the past with the depressions around Gapejaw - left by housing foundations - filled in with swamp water.

At the end of the day, I think there's a lot of evidence that the Celestica revered Giratina as well as Arceus, Dialga and Palkia - at least early on. Something happened to cause this schism, and the Old Verses/Plate inscriptions point to an outburst of rage from Giratina -- though, in "pick a god (and pray)" I actually argue it was mispercieved on the part of the Celestica and this misperception is what caused Arceus to despair and withdraw.

Open to discussion!! fellow nerds please interact!!

#pla #pokemon legends arceus #celestica #celestica people #pokemon lore #giratina #arceus #volo #i also think there's a correlation between the ancient hero story's bolts of rage and alphas/hisuian pokemon aggression #specifically my internal timeline is that the schism predates everything purely on the secular/human level #arceus then empowered the noble pokemons' ancestors and fought the hero and believed humans were worthy of his blessing until the celestica #blamed giratina for the rage lightning and shattered the statue and maybe even drove the gira sect out #this dismayed arceus and it withdrew leaving the rage to fade but still linger and make hisui inhospitable #the celestica left (of their own volition imo) to seek out arceus and other knowledge and the clans came after #the clans saw only two statues (palkia and dialga) and picked sides but still upheld the tradition honoring the nobles #i imagine cogita being direct celestica (immortal or otherwise) and volo being gira clan descended or otherwise descended from the diaspora #the celestica then went to sinjoh/johto and so on and so forth #long post #reference

[solohux]

The Arkanian legend of Vice General Valentine is one that Hux knows well. During a period of intense civil war that split the planet in two halves, the Vice General held secret ceremonies for lovers on opposite sides of the war who wanted to marry, to bond. He was eventually found, of course, and his treachery led to his death but the centuries old tale is honoured once a year on Valentine’s Day, a day that celebrates love in all of its forms.

When the calendar notification flashes up on his datapad, Hux scrunches his nose up in disgust. It makes him want to throw his datapad across his chambers but instead, he huffs with revulsion and sits up straighter in his bed. Ridiculous; of all the things to commend, he can hardly believe that his people would choose to honour someone who was a traitor to his own allegiance. Valentine’s Day is nothing more than a commercial trap that is set for half-witted fools who believe that they’re in the throes of infatuation, and it makes Hux sick to his stomach.

“Happy Valentine’s Day, lover.”

Hux frowns, but accepts the kiss from Kylo anyway. The Knight gives him a gentle peck on the lips before moving to kiss both of his cheeks, forehead and nose before handing a cup of Hux’s morning caf to him.

“How do you know about Valentine’s Day?” Hux asks, happily taking the beverage.

“It’s a Chandrillan tradition,” Kylo says, sitting down on the bed. He sets his hand upon Hux’s leg and rubs it absentmindedly; Hux silently admits how much these small actions of affection mean to him. “A Lieutenant of the Chandrillan army went against the orders of his superior officer to forbid her to marry someone she loved. Something about him having familial links to an enemy. But he married him anyway, and the two performed covert marriage ceremonies for people in the same situation. They eventually became The Lords Valentine. People from Chandrilla honour them once a year on Valentine’s Day.”

“That’s not the story,” Hux scoffs. “And it’s a tale from an Arkanis legend, not from Chandrilla.”

“I know my history, Hux.”

“As do I, Ren. Valentine’s Day is an annual celebration of love on Arkanis.“

“On Chandrilla too.”

The likelihood of a military man with the same name becoming involved in secret marriage ceremonies on two completely different planet seems far too impossible for Hux’s logical mind to comprehend but he sees the softness in Kylo’s eyes and decides not to challenge it any further. And then, he sees something else.

The room is covered in red roses; petals are scattered everywhere and on every surface whilst long-stemmed roses stand proudly in perfect arrangements in vases. There must be hundreds of them, all seemingly glittering in the low light of their bed chambers. The sight of them surrounding him is one of the most beautiful things that Hux has ever seen.

“Ren,” Hux sighs with a smile. “What’s this?”

“Like I said, Happy Valentine’s Day, lover,” Kylo says as a large bunch of roses float elegantly into his open hand. He holds them out to Hux, who takes them and inhales their fresh aroma.

“I didn’t get you anything,” Hux says dejectedly. “I’ve never…I’ve never had to before.”

“You’ve already given me everything I need, Hux,” Kylo says, leaning in closely until his lips are almost upon Hux’s. “You’re my air. You’re my heart. You’re my galaxy. What else could I ever need?”

Perhaps Valentine’s Day isn’t so ridiculous after all, now that he has someone to share his love with.

#kylux #it’s a couple of days late but HELLO #also ADDED LORE that the two legends are both true because the two men were from Arkanis and Chandrilla #but that info has been lost over time #so #imagine that they were Hux and Kylo’s ancestors who overcame the throes of war to unite in marriage #so the Arkanis General looks like Hux #and the Chandrillan Lieutenant looks like Kylo #and their legend carries forth because their love literally conquered #and now their descendants are going to become legends because of how powerful their love makes them #idk 😂 #m:writing

[venomgaia]

endeared by the rock eater

ft judgements

#driftoodles #monster hunter world #kulve taroth #nergigante #namielle #shara ishvalda #ignore the incomprehensibility i rlly like nergiiii #i remember reading somewhere that nergi n kulve may be descended frm a shared ancestor n so now theyre cousins to me even if thsts not true #(im p sure its not) #monhun #scopophobia #bc its shara ofc

[naranjapetrificada]

Random OFMD fan: *is sad about OFMD getting canceled, ends their subscription to Max and signs a petition that takes less than 20 seconds to sign*

Tumblr rando: "where was this energy for Palestine? why aren't you boycotting McDonald's? why do you care more about woobified slavers???

Same OFMD fan: *hasn't been to McDonald's in over a decade; has the capacity to care about more than one thing*

#you should honestly be expecting people to summon more energy than that for actual politics #also anyone who uses the slavery argument should make sure they're not using it against fans who literally are slave-descended #*raises hand* #I can literally drive to botanical garden in Virginia that my enslaved ancestors worked on but okau #tell me more about how I apparently shouldn't enjoy a show giving its non-white cast the kind of space they have #or how I apparently need to double boycott a company I already don't give money to #because I had the audacity to stop giving money to another one #ofmd #our flag means death

[splickedylit]

most people seem to have read homestuck and come away with a lot of very good and deep thoughts but I came away like TAKE ME TO MOTHERFUCKIN CLOWN CHURCH BAYBEEEEEE

#Homestuck #Splickedydoodles #Gamzee Makara #Kurloz Makara #The Grand Highblood #anyway if you know what fic I'm working off of here you should go check it for no reason #it's important to me that every character in non-SGRUB alternia is............the worst #they're all the worst that's what alternia does it raises you to be the worst #anyway here's some wholesome ancestor/descendant bonding time pay no attention to the multicolored jars #if anybody's reading these those jars are not from the canon characters with those bloodcolors lol I did not kill tavros

[hoofpeet]

It would be really funny if N had an ancestor in PLA

#hoof draws #replacement ingo au #submas #n's ancestor (z) is some weird feral guy who lives in the woods with a bunch of zoroarks #like ancestor like descendent<3

[sinbrook]

I'm seeing so many people argue about whether Legends ZA is going to be set in the past or in the future. But based on the trailer...

Doesn't it seem as though they might do both? We're shown hand-drawn building plans on aged paper, as well as some futuristic light-based simulation of a city. Doesn't that kinda look like how they might plan out cities in the future?

Like surely there's a reason that *this* is how they chose to present the city to us, right?

We already know that the game is only going to be set within Lumiose city, not the entire region. Having the one region but in different time periods, would definitely open the game up a lot more. Plus, y'know, they could be having some fun with the name. Z-A From the end of the alphabet (the future) to the start of the alphabet (the past). Idk, we won't know until we know but it's just fun to think about, either way, new legends game, woo!

#pokemon #pokemon legends #pokemon legends Z #pokemon legends ZA #just spitballing here I'm probably wrong but given all the fun time stuff pokemon has been playing with over the years it would be cool #imagine seeing ancestors and descendants of beloved characters in the same game #PLZA

[sunsestart]

I FINALLY MADE MY RISE!USAGI DESIGN!! But it's actually two Usagi designs because I thought it would be funny to have both Miyamoto and Yuichi in rottmnt

Imagine it pls

#PLSSS I NEED THEM BOTH IN RISE #LIKE #MY IDEA IS BASICALLY #MIYAMOTO HAS ACTUALLY BEEN TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT TMNT UNIVERSES AND NOW HE'S MAKING HIS RISE APPEARANCE #And there's this little guy who is apparently his descendant #and then we have Yuichi who has NEVER met the turtles or traveled to a different universe this way #AND HIS ANCESTOR IS HERE TOO #(but he's not actually HIS ancestor because this is a different version of Miyamoto than his own) #soooo #their interactions would be sooo funny lmao #also Leo and Yuichi are going to hate each other at first #but they'll get along aventually #I can imagine everyone thinking Miyamoto is like SOOOO COOL and awesome and stuff #especially Leo who would probably try to impress him and fail miserably #Yuichi would make fun of him and then try to impress Miyamoto himself andddd you know the rest of the story- fail miserably as well #they're both losers #anywaysss #enough rambling #here are the tags #rottmnt usagi #usagi miyamoto #usagi yuichi #yuichi usagi #miyamoto usagi #usagi yojimbo #usagi chronicles #samurai rabbit #usagi

[mayonesavegana]

The parallels, the character development, baby kaachan, the culmination of literally everything that happened in the arc so far. This is our tale

Also hawks making trouble even inside a megalomaniac’s subconscious. He really is a menace and I love him

#all for one is really getting war flashbacks #from bakugou’s ancestor? is he a reincarnation or a descendant? or is all for one just an old cenile paranoid fuck? #maybe the universe got tired of his shit and sent great explosion murder god dynamight #bnha manga #bnha 407 #bnha 408 #bnha 409 #mha #all might #my hero academia #katsuki bakugou #bnha #bnha manga spoilers #all for one #mha kudou

[tblsomedoodles]

The promised 'how Angelo got to 2003 Dimension" post (with an animatic panel b/c it's cute.)

note: This is sad. i didn't intend for it to be so sad when i started this au, that's just how things went. For a three year old to activate mystic powers, i imagined it would have taken a lot of very strong emotions to do. So it's sad. It's 'i'm putting it under a break and a content warning' sad.

brief (kinda stupid) summary in the tags for those that don't feel like reading it in it's (admittedly pretty vague) detail. (I'm probably going a little overboard adding a content warning but im doing it anyways)

Content warning: Attempted kidnapping and attempted child violence.

Angelo got separated due to a combination of the twins darting off while Angelo got distracted by a bucket of paint. Splinter was so busy chasing after the twins he didn't notice Angelo's hand had slipped from his. (By the time he does, he's already gone.)

While he's separated, another mutant sees this tiny thing painting a picture on the wall and decides he's an easy meal.

(that mutant is pretty much just Old Hob (from the TMNT idw comic) if he had been mutated by Draxum and escaped into the sewers. Not quite as conniving yet. Still very much relying on cat instincts at that moment rather than people ones. but he will get there. (I liked the fact that Hob is the reason Raph was separated from his family in the comics, so he's also the reason Angelo gets separated from his Rise family here.))

Anyways, Hob takes the small turtle and is halfway back when Angelo starts making a racket and trying to escape (he was stunned before then. He didn't understand what was going on. He still didn't but by then he just didn't want to be there anymore.)

All this does is make Hob mad. He tries to hurt Angelo to make him stop.

Tries.

Because at that moment, Angelo is scared. He's so scared. He scared this mutant will hurt him. That he won't ever see his family again.

And he so very wants to see them again.

Its enough to get his ancestors' attention. For them to see one of their young descendants in mortal peril and decide, that just won't do.

You see, that fear and desire to see his family was strong enough for Angelo to unlock his mystics, but he wasn't strong enough to use it. So his ancestors give him a boost. Admittedly a too strong boost. b/c instead of helping Angelo to make a portal away from there, they helped him make a portal away from the whole Dimension.

a too big portal, that Hob also fell through (though was far too stunned to do anything to stop Angelo from getting away.)

Raphie doesn't know this is what happened. He simply finds a crying turtle tot in the sewers and brings him home.

Eventually he starts realizing something bad happened to get the kid there (a small crack in Angelo's shell, bad nightmares, etc) but Angelo refuses to talk about it. and Raphie doesn't have the heart to push the issue.

Hob would probably be the main antagonist for the "Angelo grows up in 2003" arc. He would blame Angelo for him being displaced as he is. (he's also the dude in-charge of the lair invasion that results in Angelo getting sent back to Rise.)

So that's how it happens.

#tmnt #tmnt 2003 #rottmnt #adopted au #animatic wip #again #my doodle #long story short #mutant tries to kidnap angelo #ancestors pull a ''not my descendant you b!'' #helps angelo make a portal #oops portal too strong #now he's in 2003 #the end

[breadandblankets]

im no poet but elaine's powers being for hiding and concealing but duke's powers being for illuminating and revealing

elaine running and hiding in order to protect and duke digging his heels in and turning to face the music

just thinking about some potential story line where duke is fighting for his parents ability to live their life in peace, unmolested by some powers that be, something that for sure (sarcasm) doesn't have real life parallels

when running and hiding fails then all that's left is to stand and fight

#this thought didn't go where i thought it would #dc hire me (joke) #batfam #duke thomas #elaine thomas #if dukes parents die in the comics im going to rain a hell so terrible that ancestors will writhe and descendants will drown (normal) #bread talk