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melancholic-entrails · 10 months

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found this, felt wholesome, was about to reblog then saw the "proship fuck off thanks" so to respect their wishes, i am going to post a copy of their message here, because all of it was great except the end

( really, how do you say "learn to be a decent person" and then next sentence you say "proship fuck off thanks") i cropped out the username cuz i dont want someone to harrass them/anxious ( just in case). i copied and pasted the text to underneath the image!

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Shoutout to self shippers that don’t like sharing their f/o(s), there’s nothing wrong with feeling jealous, sad, possessive, some characters are very special to you personally, or you just feel so deeply and dearly for them, and that’s okay. I get it. Doesn’t matter if the character is extremely popular or completely unknown, you’re valid. Same goes for not wanting to see canon x canon ships with your f/o!

And if you’re only comfortable sharing with certain people that’s cool to!

Self shipping can be an incredibly personal experience, and there’s no right or wrong way to go about it, you’re not inconsiderate or greedy or annoying or anything for being uncomfortable sharing .

Your f/o(s) love you so much, always remember it’s okay to curate your experience selfshipping online, it’s perfectly okay to block tags and or blogs if you need to. Don’t make yourself suffer by continually exposing yourself to discomfort 👍

This post does not apply to you if you actively hate on / send hate / are shitty to other people that do share your f/o(s). Learn to be a decent person.

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i wanted to add on to their point, because everything they said was good, they were just being gatekeepy- which is their perogative, i just think positivity should be for everybody and i would like to make it accessible. op if you see this, please don't reply as a: i'm in your dni and b: i'm posting this for the sole reason of spreading positivity. so yeah, everything op said also counts for proshippers and profic peeps. <3

#proselfship #proshipselfship #proship #selfship #proship please interact #selfship positivity #selfshipping #fictional others #self ship community #fictional other community #proship positivity #proselfship positivity #idk what else to tag this..#profic #pro fiction #anti anti #anti censorship #anti harrassment

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mochamicheong · 4 months

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( ☆ ) you got b - b - b - blocked ?

do not interact / follow list ...

☆ proshippers or dark shippers

☆ yandere

☆ real-life gore accounts

☆ ableist, homophobic, racist and colorist ppl

☆ "minors dni" accounts (why interact? im a minor.)

before you follow / interact ...

☆ i am not very active here. i have other things to be busy with, like school, my part timr job, and other stuff. so if you send an ask, i'll respond quite late or not respond at all. (IM SORRY)

☆ i am an emotional person and sensitive person. i am triggered at subjects such as real-life gore and blood, mentions of sexual harrassment / sexual assault, and rape. and please dont make fun of me in general.

#♡ 🌊 : important.#♡ ⛲️ : unlisted.

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aerodystian · 1 year

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Messy hazbinhotel fandoms, ship policing, gate keepers please stop

A long time ago I came to the conclusion that ppl will hate charlastor no matter the scenerio. Bc if you hate something you just do. " i just dont like it bc its popular" excuse 🤷‍♀️

Ive always saw alot of ppl ship both ships even in 2020. But that isnt enough for militant canon stans. They want us to suck canon toes and cry to viv to forgive us, bc of what some assholes did in the past. There okay with shipping radioapple/moxxieblitzo/moxxiedust heck any other combination outside of canon. But when charlastor shippers do the same it's an issue. As i stated this before vaggie being potrayed as just a supportive closebest friend in an AU it's bad. Making a traid (charlie/al charlie/vaggie) is also an issue. I personally dont mind toxic charlastor bc i am adult that likes mature adult content but then the antis will complain its toxic and they hate it. But If an artist draw them dancing or just being cute around each other it's bad also bc its too "fluffy". me stating this will never change nothing. The biphobic sterotype is disgusting bc i seen straight couples, gay couples and Suprise!!! lesbians couples cheat on each other. Ive seen messy girl/gay circles where they all fuck each other. Lets not act like that never happened and it dont exist. So i dont understand all the negative energy towards bisexuals.

Ppl will dislike what they dislike and that's it. It could be for simple reasons such as they hate how popular a ship is, they have a rival ship…even jealousy. They ship theirselves with al and hate to see charlir ship with him. (I know it sounds crazy but these type ofbthings happen in fandoms) But I stand firm that charlatsor ship isnt queer erasure/homofobic. The petition thing was done with radiodust shippers and charlastor. The shipwars was back and forth thing bc their were both toxic. The militant shippers being gatekeepers and harrassers to anyone that would draw charlastor and the gross toxic charlastor shippers that drew the gore art to "get back at the canon STANS" There is an misunderstanding that some charlastor shippers "hate viv" but I think it's more like many feel like she never called out her own toxic fanbase. She ignores ppl getting harrassed and chuck the ship as being homofobic. Many shippers felt alienated upset bc they were being taunted provoke by the entitled chaggie stans. And it seemed like she just only cares for that part of her fan base.

#Hazbinhotel vivziepop shipwars dram

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melody-of-lost-souls · 2 years

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Hellooo! (Please don't get tired of me yet)

So.. My frustration level with this fandom is over the limit, it constantly keeps me awake. SS/NH stans going feral when we get significant symbols, brush it off with "tHeIr BrOs" 🙄🙄. Then they plagiarize OUR symbols into their ship and somehow it's like "So cute😍😍😍!! I'm dying! This is so breathtaking 🤧🤧.. Ugh 😩 Someone stop those lovebirds, my heart can't take it 💕💕" Where is the logic behind the sudden change 🤨🤨?? If those symbols are platonic with Sasu and Naru, why is it suddenly romantic when Sakura and Hinata are involved?

Whatever...

Sasuke and Naruto doing things for each other that goes even further than regular friends or brother things, is "OMG stop being delusional 😀😀. Their BROTHERS!" Sasuke looking at Sakura, Naruto holding Hinata's hand is suddenly "OMG!! STOP THIS IS TOO CUTE 😍😍😍" Like huh 🤨?

Okay...

Naruto wishing upon a shooting star for Sasuke is "IT DOESN'T MEAN ANYTHING 🥱🥱" Sasuke forgetting his revenge for Naruto is "MEH.. Just because he sets his goal aside for Naruto and not Sakura doesn't mean much, he still loves her anyway. THEIR BROTHERS EITHER WAY 🤣🤣" Naruto saying he acutally likes people like Hinata Hime, and Sasuke thanking Sakura is "OMG!!! 🤩🤩 LOOK AT THOSE SNS STANS, LITERALLY SO DELUSIONAL 🙄!! NOW THEY KNOW THAT SASUKE LOVES SAKURA AND NARUTO LOVES HINATA!" 🤔🤔

Common logic, correct?..

Naruto going six tails for Hinata is "AWE 🥰 LOL HE ONLY WENT FOUR TAILS FOR SASUKE! 🤣🤣 THAT PROVES THAT NARUTO CARES ABOUT HINATA HIME MORE THAN SASUKE!!" *casually forgetting Jiraiya's death, and the destruction of the village, and that Naruto only had to hear Sasuke's name to go four tails.. Yep yep 🙂👍👍*

What do you think?

Hello, been busy jeje

Well you said it all xD It's always the same thing with them. They are few SS or NH stans who are able to recognize that the moments of SNS are beyond "brotherly" In my case, i dont get triggered or offended when someone says their bond is platonic. I dont know if they take the meaning in a wrong way or so, but the meaning is very deep, and it has to do with the myth of androgines which is absolutey interesting and beautiful. I dont understand why a lot of fans despise people who says SNS are platonic. Because Sex is not in the way? They are putting themselves on the same place as SS who only cares about fucking¿ In any case. To such as SS and NH who joke us saying ñiñiñi SNS are just platonic bros, i would send them to read some things. Its because their poor content also, that they do exaggerate every single moment of their ship together even if it is jus them sharing a god damn pannel. And its because the amount of content we have, that they need to dismiss all of ours in order to validate theirs.

It will always be like that with BL fandoms. a friend of mine who ships ERURI (levi x erwin - i personally dont like them anyway) told me is the same way with LeviHan shippers. Who always harrass them. Despite these 2 ships have strong solid content. They fight the BL ship a lot so... its the same shit in different fandoms. They get triggered with the ships who risks their ones i gues

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ra1nb0w-ech0 · 10 months

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Hello! My name's Shannon, but you can call me Echo. Imma about show you whats all about me! You can ask me anything, as long as you're not being innapropiate or creepy.

Pronouns: She/Her, They/Them

Gender and Sexuality: Demigirl and Bisexual

How old am i? I am 14 years old nad im gonna be 15 soon!

Birthday: 27th August

Zodiac: Virgo ♍️

My favourite music artists: Will Wood, Samfree, DEATH, Ghost and pals, The living tombstone, Penelope Scott & Hatsune Miku

Anime i like: Demon Slayer, Dragon ball Z, BNHA, Naruto, Kill me baby, Lucky star and Clannad

Fandoms: Will Wood, Tomodachi Life, Little big planet, Spongebob, Rainbow Friends, Garten of ban ban, Poppy Playtime, The amazing digital circus, Bugbo, Murder drones, Touhou, Arcana heart, Vocaloid, Sonic the hedgehog, Minecraft

🚫DNI: Proship (Meaning that you like Problematic relationship such as Incest, Pedophilla, Lolicon, Non-Con and other), NSFW (Even though im a minor, I am quite okay with NSFW art but please dont be creepy or anything please 🙏), MAP (Minor Attracted Person / Pedophillia), Zoophiles, Homophobics, Transphobic, Over 30s (this can make me confortable), Anti-Furries, Politic people, Hardcore Republicans, pro lifers, xenophobic, IRL shippers (people who ship IRL people), racists, comship, NFT and A.I artists.

✨️💖 Interact! : Shippers, Anti-harrassment, furries, artists, LGBTQ+ and more!

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milk-addicc · 4 years

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I really liked that post you made about how Capcom feels about Narumitsu. And I'm wondering how do you think they feel about Narumayo? Personally to me it feels like they throw more hints at Narumitsu since with the other one if Takami wanted it to be canon he would of done it at the end of T&T. I also think the team could of made it more obvious in SoJ with Maya's big return but I never really saw the hints but I know I'm biased lol.

oh i’m glad you like my rambles haha;;

ahh... that ship,

well first, about the whole Takumi “wanting narumitsu to be canon” thing, its not exactly making them canon but have more fanservice leaning heavy towards narumitsu (which was declined by the director(?) who claimed, i sorta agree with, that the game did well even without the narumitsu hinting since in the first game they didn’t have that intention and it was pure coincidence that their relationship was just THAT deep and meaningful which is incredible lmao, Takumi and co managed to slip his warning and still put at least some of the hints in TT tho hhh-). so even then, i doubt the crew actually want the endgame to come so soon hh.

okay, back on topic. what i think about naru//mayo? yea, i’m not keen on that ship personally at all, actually i despise it. like, they first met in the office, in front of their dead loved one, Mia. Maya was 17, Phoenix was 24. you have Maya, who’s supposedly still in HIGH SCHOOL and Phoenix, who has GRADUATED COLLEGE, has a JOB, and most likely has PAID HIS OWN BILLS. from that point alone, it should already feel weird.

Maya’s an adolescence, a teenager, she just lost her sister and barely grew up, in a way she’s still innocent, notice how she tend to ask random questions and or say things that she thinks makes sense or amusing, she tends to be naive too. its kinda like.. a child.

and Phoenix on the other hand, is a grown man. heck even Maya says he’s an “old fart”, they’re legit aware of their own age gap in game and outright say it. if anything, they both act like self-aware best friends/brother-sister than romantically. even Maya said it herself, she wants to be a good big sister for Pearl and Nick.

now how about we ignore this obvious fact just for a little while and try to see it from only their interactions in-franchise. heres the kicker, you may not see it in game since they only lightly nudges about this ship (usually with Pearl, and was dismissed by Maya right after.), but in some of AA spin off mangas (and from what i heard, one of the stage shows), for some reason, this ship has their own hints despite being completely aware that Maya is a teenager.

but its okay now don’t hold your breaths,

their “hints” are more of a one-off ish thing, most of the time a gag and not taken seriously, and unlike other ship per say narumitsu, where it actually affects their lives and changed it forever IN-GAME. “i care about Maya and understands her” and “i became an attorney because of you, Edgeworth and i don’t have any regrets” are both literally incomparable, especially given Phoenix and Edgeworth’s history together in-game canon.

anyway, here’s some common arguments i’ve encountered about this particular ship :

“but Phoenix cares about Maya a lot! he literally went through a trial against a hitman and run through a burning bridge for her!”

“Phoenix blushed and goes red when Pearl says he’s Maya’s special someone and he stutters!”

“Well my parents had a huge age gap!"

“well, Maya is 18 in AA2″

“considering Maya is a christmas cake now, Nick better tap that”

“she’s an adult in AA6 tho”

now lets dissect each of these,

yes, Phoenix cares about Maya a lot he literally did cross a burning bridge for her but people seem to forget that this is the same man who turned his life around, abandon his dreams, study law for four years, and became an attorney to meet one man and willing to defend a girl who looks like his psychotic ex that nearly poisoned him in court. he literally would believe in his clients’s innocence no matter what, he’s by nature would sacrifice anything and even his life for someone. so its normal that he cares about Maya, but is it romantic? i doubt it, he cares about her safety and well being but does it have to be a romantic hint? no, of course not, he’s just very selfless for the people he cares about and Maya has no one to help her but Nick when she’s in trouble, he’s one of few adults she can trust and will help her out.

oh so blushing and stuttering due to embarrassment means having feelings now? and about the stuttering, he literally stutters around Edgeworth a lot lol. i’m starting to feel like people ships naru//mayo not because of their depth but because Pearl said so. Pearl finds them should be together and keep shoving the audience with Nick being “Mystic Maya’s special someone”, well if thats the case, they also explained why this happened, in-game. Pearl grew up very sheltered and among unhealthy marriages she just assumes a girl and a boy together means they’re dating and being “special someones”. she most likely just wants her cousin to be in a happy relationship unlike her parents where her father left both her and her mother but didn’t know any better because she was eight years old.

https://youtu.be/FGAqQkMEKNs?start=674&end=776

now about the parent thing and taking it personal, well my parents too had a huge age-gap of 7 years. but how come is it okay? its because they met when my mum was already a career woman at 26. she’s already an adult when my dad met her. what does this mean? it means my parents were both adults when they’re together, this is why i still like GumMaggey despite their age gap so wide, they first met when Maggey has already had a career, supposedly in her 20′s, she’s a young adult, she can buy alcohol by herself, already knows whats right and wrong and has live life independently, not a still hormonal teenager who depends on one adult figure. did your parents date when your mum is in highschool while your dad is like in his mid 20′s? sorry to hear that.

as for the last three arguments, i don’t even want to touch any of them with a five-foot pole. are you listening to yourself? do you not feel like you’re a creep typing that?

let me give you a benefit of the doubt. yes she’s older and legally an adult, but are you really discrediting the fact they met when Maya was still in highschool? they met and became friends when she’s 17 and he’s 24. sure they barely met during disbarment era, but should that change anything? why should it? how should it? like this?

“Oh this is Maya, i haven’t met her in years but boy she sure has grown up can’t wait to date her since she’s legal now.”

because thats what that argument sounds like, YIKES.

you know? if they met under a different circumstance and Maya was like 19, i’d let it go. but they didn’t, they met because of a horrible loss, Maya, still in training, 17 lost her big sister and Phoenix, a rookie, at 24 lost his mentor.

in conclusion, i don’t like naru//mayo at all

pairing them feels like pairing Edgeworth with Kay or Phoenix with Ema, just because they partnered in investigations, make playful jabs at each other, and saved each others’s lives before, people just think they like each other romantically despite their age-gap in first meetings (not to mention Kay sees Edgeworth as somewhat of a father figure, and she’s nearly 18 while Edgeworth is the same age as Phoenix). especially with how Maya, being a zoomer, calls Phoenix an “old fart” and just makes jokes about how so out-of-touch Phoenix is with the modern entertainment.

from observations, i have a huge hunch that almost all of them pair these two because :

1. Maya’s a girl protagonist so its a male protagonist x female protagonist type of deal and despise narumitsu because “yaoi”

2. AA6 she’s an adult so she’s legal which is damn creepy on its own, or last

3. because of Pearl shipping them in game despite being an eight year old and was so sheltered she thought a man and a woman being next to each other means they’re special someones.

either way, i only see them as best friends, sibling-like relationship with self awareness here and there since they tease the audience a lot with their gag “hints” in spin-off mangas and game.

not only that, it kinda showcase how all male/female bond don’t have to be romantic, they can be just friends or familial and still hang together. another plus for the franchise right after encouraging moving on from ex partners. *glancing at Phoenix//Iris*

and as to the people who pairs this for some odd reasons, sometimes i just want to ask these questions,

“how would you feel if you’re in Phoenix’s shoes? met your mentor’s little sister at age 17 while you’re 24, would you feel romantically interested in this high schooler?” because i don’t, to me anyone 3 years younger than me is like a baby, how would Phoenix feel when Maya’s 7 years younger?

“also... why even? narumitsu and other less questionable pairings are RIGHT THERE in the open!”

but oh well people can like and pair whatever hhh,

and there you have it, my even longer rambling hahaha sorry;;

Edit : To add the final nail to the coffin, Phoenix outright has said that Maya’s like his kid, like a niece.

Edit 2 : remember that this is simply my personal take, you can somewhat use this to make yourself feel better about your pair nor simply just to hate on the ship itself but do not use this to dictate actual people what to ship and not to ship.

please don’t be destructive towards others.

#NOT n*rumayo #notp #naru//mayo #can't ship them sorry #im almost 20 and everyone 3 years younger feels like a child #imagine being phoenix and knowing maya is like 7 years younger jfc #slight #narumitsu #encouragement lol #dont harrass the shippers of it please

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imagine-your-love-story · 3 years

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Thank you for encouraging a safe space on Tumblr. It might seem like basic courtesy to leave people be, leave them their comfort and creative freedom, but apparently it's not. As someone who has very questionable self ship poly dynamics, it's.. nice not being scared of seeing "Don't interact if this- dont interact if that" and then in danger of harrassment.

Please keep spreading these vibes of comfort and love - you're a great person whom we need a lot more of in the world wide web

You're very welcome, lovely! :) :) :)

Hoo boy. I have...soooo many thoughts on like....ALL of this. And this post is gonna get LONG because I've opened the can of worms and I'm lettin' it all out :P

The amount of bullying and negativity I've seen in the selfshipping community lately is very painful and disappointing to watch. Tumblr and fandom has always been somewhat of a cesspool but I had hoped that selfshipping was a little better.

I'm not seeing a positive community on a large scale right now.

There are some people who are shining little stars out there of course! But there's more hate being spread around than I can stomach.

I've spent Y E A R S researching and unlearning and pushing back against the psychological and emotional effects of manipulative behaviors like: blame, guilt, shame, and harassment.

I absolutely 100000% believe you can speak to people civilly and state your reasons why you think their behavior is damaging. Without telling them, "You are wrong. You are a bad person." Or otherwise making them feel shitty about themselves.

And I also believe that you CAN allow that person to say, "I don't agree with what you're saying" and you can still have normal interactions with that person without immediately shunning them and labeling them as a terrible person.

People BLOSSOM when they are showered in love, acceptance, and understanding. People are MUCH more willing to listen and heed what you have to say when you give them SPACE to see your point of view (or disagree with you and still accept them).

This culture on social media where people jump STRAIGHT to, "You're a HORRIBLE person because you do something I disagree with!" is, frankly, horrifying and a little disgusting.

Does this mean I condone negative and damaging behaviors?

No. Absolutely not.

But there seems to be this loss of perspective on what is considered "negative and damaging behaviors".

1. It's fiction. Fiction has NEVER been "clean". It's a place of freedom to discuss EVERYTHING.

2. You don't have to feel comfortable with everything being discussed in fiction. I'm not. If I don't like a self-shipper's content because it hits some trigger buttons for me...I don't follow their blog. Because that's my boundary and I have every right to it.

Do I send them messages saying, "You're a toxic person!"

Nope.

Do I comment on their ship that they love and say, "This makes me uncomfortable!"

Nope.

It's not my business.

Also: it’s fiction and there are MUCH bigger problems that require my energy than whether or not I should correct someone’s fictional ship.

Go save the ocean.

Go save the rainforest.

Go save the planet you live and breath on.

Fiction should not be making you angry enough to send hate mail to someone else. Full stop. That should never ever be a priority.

3. Some people engage in selfshipping "negative behaviors" as a way to cope with their trauma. We have no idea what a person has been through and we have no right to tell them that they should stop what they're doing when we do not know where they are on their journey of healing.

It hurts my heart so, so much when I receive messages from selfshippers like you, dear anon, who are TERRIFIED to share their love stories with their characters because they're afraid of being labeled/attacked/harassed by the community.

That's the community letting you down. That should NOT be happening and I'm so sorry you're feeling that way, lovely.

The ENTIRE point of selfshipping was to ESCAPE the people who criticized for shipping yourself with a character that you love. The foundation of selfshipping is that ANYTHING is possible!!! You are limitless!!!

And now people are policing what you can do??? That's...that completely obliterates the point of selfshipping. That's WHY we escaped to our own community!

I don't know if this video is available outside of the U.S., but I highly recommend, the Crappy Childhood Fairy's Youtube video on Cancel Culture. It's a great listen when you're navigating the emotional turmoil of social media culture.

So, if you're still reading after ALL OF THAT :P here are some key points about this blog and my philosophy when it comes to selfshipping:

This blog will always be a judgment free zone

Of course I have opinions! Of course we may disagree on something! But I won't judge you for it. You're allowed to do your own thang! ;)

I will never have a DNI.

If I feel an interaction is crossing into territory that isn't appropriate or acceptable, I'll say so. And if that doesn't work, I'll block and report. But I will never have a DNI on this blog.

Yes, I am an adult. So if minors don't feel comfortable following my blog, it's okay if they don't! I understand!

But I don't have a problem talking with minors because they are human beings and they may need support. I worked in Youth Services at a library for over two years. I know sometimes kids just want someone to talk about cool books and movies with and I'm 100% down for that 24/7 :)

Because this blog is all-ages friendly, I will never post 18+ content because - just like IRL - I make sure that I am mindful of the people around me. I may post some suggestive content that is tagged, but I try not to get too explicit.

I also don’t really think a DNI is necessary for me personally. Of course if I feel threatened by someone, I won’t interact with that person. But if a shipper is into content that I don’t like???? I don’t feel the need to say, “I will never interact with you!” That’s....exhausting. Besides, there are plenty of other things we can chat about! :)

I will always share f/os.

I know some people don't like to share and that's their boundary they can draw if they want to (no shade here!), but I've found that if I don't share, it's a very lonely experience. So I always share and I’m happy to interact if we have the same f/o :)

DMs are always open if you need a shoulder to lean on

If you need to dump or vent or whatever, my DMs will always be open so you can chat! It can feel weird, and maybe you'll feel bad because you won't know what to say!!!

That's okay :)

Even if all you want to do is vent and never reply, I'm happy to listen and offer any words of encouragement and support you need to hear! :)

#asks #anonymous #penny chats #i hope that monster of a response was helpful! :P #edit: LOL i just watched my follower count PLUMMET after posting this #don't care #i said what i said #i'm gonna keep spreadin' love around!!! :D

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ken-katayanagi · 3 years

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Yall please leave Ercole shippers alone. I know it can be really squicky to some people, but almost all au's are aged up (and within like a 2 - 4 year age gap which is not that fucking bad) and there's no reason to go around harrassing others. Its a shitty move and most people are cool and only portray sfw relationships like they should. Just block them and leave them alone. They dont deserve it.

#pixar luca #ercole visconti #and dont take this as some pro ship thing #though a lot of the issues in pro ship are very morally grey #like aging up in particlaur #but fiction CAN AND DOES AFFECT REALITY #depending on the messages it conveys and the people it gets you to emphasize with #and most people know where the cut off is for weird #also most people though Alberto was 14 and Ercole was 16 when they started writing #dont come for people just because the director decided to spin the wheel of teen numbers and hit the adult number #anyway uh.....dont harrass people #understand circumstances around ships considered squicky to you

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poobit · 3 years

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Um. One question. What the hell is your dni? It's just too.. excessive. I don't ship anime characters or whatever characters anymore (Honestly I'm a bit of a grandma for internet terms) but, I just don't get it. Is there something I'm missing? You do realize that those "ships" are fiction.. Right? Those shippers are aware that the context of those ships are wrong. They know how to separate fiction from reality, something I think you need to do too. I'm not suaing fiction doesn't affect reality.. Because it can sometimes, but what your saying is absurd. I used to "ship" (I don't even think that's the word for it. I didn't don't want them to necessarily be together in canon. I never saw them as "cute" or "okay" because it's not.) A pedophilic ship because I was going through my own trauma, and I used that "ship" to cope. But I, and many other fanfiction writers and survivors, never thought it was going to be okay in real life. I knew it was fake and never wanted it to actually be real. I never thought it was cute for that to happen in real life, either.

Honestly, it sucks because while I don't do that anymore (I only did it once, but still) it really helped me find myself. It helped me see another character I liked going through what I went through, that I wasn't alone. And I can assume other people do that too. There's plenty of people who use it to cope. It's just not fair how so many of them get ridiculed for venting. Everyone copes differently, and if someone writes some fucked up shit to deal with their trauma, that's their way of doing it. I have no say in it, unless they're hurting people and yadafafa.. you get the gist.

And. I mean, really..? Is aging up a character really that bad? Isn't it better to age up the character, rather than sexualize a minor? And even despite that, some people age up characters because, I don't know, sexualizing minors make them uncomfortable. Wow. Who would've guessed? I don't get this mindset, gatekeeping isn't fair for anyone but the gatekeeper lmao.

I don't know why a random ass strangers opinion matters especially at 4 AM, but I'm done w this. It's not that hard to get.. Ik tired of people getting harrassed. It's fake. The people writing it know it's fake. The people reading it know it's fake. So why can't you?

for it being "fake " it sure made you feel "something" right now........please go to sleep next time instead of sending me shit i dont give a single shit about Your Individual Feelings and im not gonna lay down my own trauma for you as explanation because you decided to be insufferable .

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drivingsideways · 3 years

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Misaeng review

Ok, it's been almost a week, so I feel like I can get my thoughts (somewhat) in order. As usual, I'm late to the party, given that Misaeng aired 6 years ago, and is already considered a kdrama classic. Still: thoughts!

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I came to this drama with quite a lot of expectations, both because I'd seen it on a lot of rec lists, and also because I'd watched director Kim Won-seok's Signal and My Mister, which are justifiably as beloved as Misaeng. I'm happy to report that Misaeng mostly lived up to those expectations!

The writing & direction work together to make Misaeng a very immersive experience, which is good, considering the entire run time is over 20 hrs. The level of seemingly mundane detail of the operational aspects of running a trading firm that they delve into (and other dramas might have avoided for sake of pacing) seemed odd to me at first, but eventually result in a world building that's incredibly well fleshed out. The (formerly unlikely!) high stakes of a misplaced piece of paper or octopuses in a shipment of squid end up being parts of an emotionally wrenching narrative whole fairly seamlessly. Still, at 20+ hours, Misaeng also does get into the kind of pacing issues that most of the slice of life kdramas I've watched so far have. And it didn't need to! I think it had a wonderful ensemble of characters, and if they'd maybe given a little more time and space to characters other than Jang Geu-Rae (Im Si wan) and Oh Sang-sik (Lee Sung-min), the mid portions may not have felt quite so, well, stuck.

But more than the strong writing and direction, it was really the actors who delivered. They made what could have easily been a dull-ish office drama into a heart warming story about human connection and the joys and troubles of leading an "incomplete life". I'd never watched Lee Sung-min in anything before, and about half way through the series I was like, HOW IS HE MAKING A SHORT TEMPERED, ALCHOHOLIC MIDDLE MANAGER SO SEXY? Like, serious props, dude. Lee Sung-min is by turns annoying and brash and too shout-y and stubborn and funny and so incredibly vulnerable as a man trying his best to live by his principles in a world that thinks they are an impediment to "success", that you forget that he's playing a fictional character-- he's someone you know, he's someone you've seen in the mirror.

His performance as Oh Sang-sik is very ably matched by Im Si Wan's Jang Geu-Rae. This series would not have worked if these two actors didn't have the chemistry they do, and play off each other in every scene. I had watched Im Si Wan recently- in JTBC's "Run On", in which I liked his performance quite a lot, but I absolutely loved him as the naive and endearing Jang Geu-rae. Misaeng, is in part, a bildungsroman narrative centered around Jang Geu Rae. Im Si wan brought a kind of vulnerability to the role that might have felt cloying and emotionally manipulative in the hands of other actors, but Im Si-wan manages to do it with a light touch. I feel he's one of those actors that uses his whole body in a scene, not just relying on facial or verbal expression, and it's a joy to watch.

Each of the other actors in the ensemble also bring that dedication and talent to their roles, even if it's in a single scene. There are lots of one-off characters that we meet during the course of the series, and every single one of them leaves an impact.

But! I'm going to pick a fave from the supporting cast and that's Byun Yo-han, whom I'd last watched as the broody, troubled (and very sexy) swordsman Lee Bang-ji in Six Flying Dragons. I can't imagine a character more in opposition to that one than Han Seok-yul in Misaeng, but Byun Yo-han just knocks it out of the park as the scheming, cheerful and mostly inappropriate clown with a heart of gold; Han Seok-yul is the definition of Chaotic Good, and you're equal parts horrified by his antics- which include sexual harassment dont @ me -- and yet charmed by him. I wish they'd given him a few more scenes and a larger plotline to work with, but I also suspect that he might have just walked away with the entire series if they did that. (Am I plotting that series in my head as I write this? MAYBE.)

Alright, this is getting a bit too long, so I'm going to get to the bits that disappointed me. That's really one major thing: the gender politics. I don't know how different the show is from the web toon it's based on, so I can't tell whether they made significant changes to the basic plot and characters. As in- I have no idea if the webtoon was as male dominated in every way as the show is, so I'm not sure how much of the show's treatment of women as a class, and its female characters in particular, I should lay at the door of the original writer vs the screenwriter and director. I'm also lacking the Korean context in which this was written and made and aired, so you may take my criticism with a pinch of salt, if you please!

That the show features mainly male characters is perhaps unsurprising and realistic, since we know that the kind of corporate life it depicts is very male dominated, top to bottom. The show also portrays the very real and horrific overt and subtle misogyny that women face in the workplace and out of it; mainly in the character of Ahn Young-yi, played with steely determination and quiet suffering by the lovely Kang so-ra. There are only 3 other female characters that have any sort of real speaking role- Sun Ji Young (played by Shin Eun jung), a senior manager at the company, Jang Geu-rae's unnamed(!) mother (played by the amazing Sung Byoung-Sook) and Oh Sang-sik's unnamed (!) wife (played by Oh Yoon-Hong, who's a delight in every tiny scene she has). There are other women who appear but in very minor roles, and often in "comedy" moments that often rely on sexist tropes to start with.

Anyway, right there you can see one of the problems- 4 women characters that have any kind of real screen time, and only 2 of them are named. Aigoo! Screenwriter Jung Yoon-jung is a woman, and like, I don't like putting the burden on any one woman to y'know fix structural misogyny, but I can't also help feeling disappointed that she overlooked even this "small" thing among the larger things.

But that apart, the main issue for me was that while the show doesn't shy away from depicting egregious sexism in the form of sexual harrassment, verbal and physical and certainly emotional abuse, in a manner that's clear that we are meant to be horrified by it--it falls short of depicting how women deal and work with it. It just doesn't give enough space to women or their worldview.

It's very comfortable depicting victimhood, but doesn't put work into depicting the ways in which women survive by finding solidarity with other women. We have a scene or two where Ahn Young-yi who is this show's poster child for female victimhood interacts with the older women who offer sympathy and understanding, but no real strategy or support. And yes, we see men also being targeted by their seniors for the grossest verbal and physical abuse; and it's men who help Ahn Young-yi strategise on how to deal with her situation. Real life experience tells me that it's the women who do this work for other women. I have certainly been on both sides of this equation, for one, and so has every woman that I know in corporate life. And yes, one of the show's core philosophies is that those who endure, survive--but it is none the less extremely painful to watch Ahn Young yi "endure" the kind of abuse she does as a coping strategy and a survival strategy.

At the end of it, when she slowly manages to gain the support of her sexist team, it's shown as a victory-- though naturally imperfect, because this show takes its Realism very seriously (right until the end where it makes a tonal shift into quirky that I was a little ?? about)-- and y'know, sure, it is a victory. And I absolutely understand the choices she makes and why she does it-- I guess I just got annoyed by the fact that other antagonistic figures in the narrative get a more straightforward comeuppance for their egregious behavior, but Ahn Young-yi doesn't even get a goddamned apology from her abusers. Instead, we have a half humourous, half serious moment where she comments on how she's working at turning herself into "someone cute"- because she understands now that sometimes the right strategy is to "go with the flow". Be the water that slowly wears away at the rock. It's an interesting moment- the men she tells this to are taken aback by her bluntness, but also a little clueless about what she means. It's the kind of nuance that I would and do enjoy. Unfortunately, it also closely follows one of the show's most annoying scenes at the tail end of the series- where it tries to play off workplace sexism and misogyny as comedy- boys being boys-Reader, when I tell you that I had to WORK to unclench my jaw--!

I'm not saying we should have a single and obvious narrative of female emancipation. I'm not against realism in fiction, but god, sometimes, please do remember that when we look for escapism, we are actually imagining a better world. The first step toward liberation is allowing yourself to imagine it.

And the show does allow other characters its moments of unfettered fantasy- Im Si Wan parkour-ing all over the rooftops of Amman- and having a semi mystical + Indiana Jones moment in the deserts of Jordan--so why, I ask, are the women not given that gift?

*looks into the camera *

Tl;dr: I enjoyed it, it made me cry every episode, and I cared about all the characters, and if you haven't watched it yet, treat yourselves.

PS. Yes, Han Seok-yul is a disaster bi, sorry, I don't make the rules. Yes, hotties Oh Min Seok and Kang Ha-neul are canonically naked in a hot tub six feet apart because they are bros. Yes, I will be writing the fix it in which they fuck like angry bunnies. Yes, I am going to put my shipper cooties all over this gen slice of life show, deal with it.

#misaeng #kdrama #thinky thoughts

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nightswithkookmin · 3 years

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Imo there is enough to support the possibility of a romantic relationship, but you are writing full on narratives with impossible specificity. You know what confirmation bias is but some young impressionable people dont yet . Forgive me but misleading with ' alt facts' can hurt someone even if you dont mean it. I think you are a good person not looking to hurt anyone. But the way you postulate without any evidence makes your actions a little but like those of a charlatan. Peace and kindness

All these kind words you spew...

It feels more like an advice than a question so I'm not sure how to respond to it...

Let me just say thank you? I never quite understood what the brouhaha was about with my posts but after talking to a few people, 'on the other side' lol and reading your Ask, I think I'm starting to get a better sense of what the problem is.

Something about young impressionable minds or people?

Let the council of elders know, those are not my audience please. I cater to a much more mature audience- at least so far. The people that I interact with and engage with on my posts on and off Tumblr are very mature and not impressionable at all.

They are People with brains who can tell an opinion from fact and can engage in deep complex controversial conversations without throwing up, shedding tears or cussing through to the heavens.

If there are 'impressionable people' reading my blogs- they do so at their own risk. If you know any such people or they run to you with my theories kindly point out to them it's just theory because that's what my opinions are.

I think the best thing you can do is to advice such people to grow up if they are going to sit at the adult table or not read my posts at all. I think you need to learn to hold the right people accountable for their actions.

The best I can do in this case- to hold myself accountable, is to put up a disclaimer on my posts to let people know what it is that they are reading- something I do quite often. But I will make conscious efforts to put up those disclaimers each time henceforth. Thank you.

That I write full on narratives with impossible specificity:

Is this Latin for, 'you write fiction get the fuck outta here?' Chilee.

I don't even know what you mean by this exactly so I may not be able to respond to it to your satisfaction. Bare with me.

So what if I write fiction? What is wrong with writing fiction? Do you hate fiction writers? I don't get what the hate is with these complaints honestly. Do you want me to put up a disclaimer stating my blogs are fiction? Would that help? I would glady do it.

If it helps you sleep at night think of my blogs as fiction- a rose by any other name. I've been keeping up with Shakespeare. Lol.

I don't think it's that deep. Listen, you gotta understand that just because we both 'ship' Jikook don't mean we are on the same team...

Most alt shippers I know and who read my posts and engage with it are not even Army to begin with, for your information. They could care less about these shipping politics of yours. Have you thought about that?

Some simply ship JK and JM and support them because they believe they are members of the LGBTQ plus community not because they are part of BTS.

There are different communities out there who are also into Jikook- for very different reasons. You gotta respect that.

To you, Jikook is just a ship within BTS that may or may not be real, but to some of us they have very much outgrown that description...

They are a brand of their own, a power couple and members of the LGBTQ plus community- Gay Icons extraordinaire. I think we take very different stock in Jikook. So stop trying to fit us all into one box.

It's disrespectful to try and control the way that people perceive their OTP and support them. Jikook don't just belong to Army Jokers, they belong to different communities outside Army. Are you aware of that?

And please don't confuse the intersect. I am an alt-shipper yes but I just so happen to be an Army too. But if I wasn't an Army, I'd still pretty much 'ship' and support Jikook- make no mistake. There are quite a few of us running around these streets, you know?

So you have every right to want to gatekeep your Army Jikook- but you have to do that without infringing on other rights of other 'Jikook communities.'

Throughout my blogs I have tried to shed light on what altshipping is because I thought it would help bridge the gap but clearly that hasn't worked. Sigh.

Misleading alt facts

Do you not know what it means or you are just being ironic?👀

Why is it ok for you to believe and proclaim that JK and BigHit lied about JK dating the Tattoo artist but it's not ok for me to believe JK is telling the truth when he says he didn't date her and that BigHit saw an opportunity to kill two birds with one stone- hence why they didn't press charges against the shop for breach of privacy like they had said they were going to do. Instead, they had asked the shop to keep calm till the scandal died down on it's own?

You start your piece off with the whole, 'there is enough evidence to support a romantic relationship' between JK and the tattoo shop lady- I assume.

For context, this Ask by this anon is in response to my recent post/ answer on the tattoo girl scandal where the topic of discussion was on BigHit, JK and the tattoo artist and not Jikook perse.

A statement that is in direct conflict with JK's statement, BigHit's and the lady in questions, all denying that there was a romantic relationship between her and Jungkook- and somehow I am misleading who- who now with my theory??? Chileee.

Do you see the problem here? Double standards- the hallmark of bigotry. Lmho. You are literally doing the very thing you are accusing me of. Making confident assertions and claiming you know more about JK and the Lady's relationship and even have 'enough evidence' contrary to BigHit, JK and the Tattoo artist's statements denying the rumors- at least when I theorize I admit I'm being delusional. What's your excuse? When you say charlatan are you referring to yourself? You must be. Lmho.

Now I'm confident in my comprehension skills and intelligent enough to know when you make an assertion like this- it is your opinion and you are just stating your opinion. If you are not then honey you'd be opening yourself up to some serious litigation... goodluck I guess. Lol.

You are allowed to form an opinion about a topic. There is nothing wrong with that. If to you, JK and this person dated that is fine. I am not going to cyber bully you, stalk you, throw slurs at you, harrass you, dox you, slid into people's Dms to spread hate and lies about you just because I don't agree with your opinion. And for the record, I don't agree with your opinion. Hehehehe.

I have stated my opinion on the matter. I said I think JK and this person did hang out, go on dates but that there was no romantic sexual relationship between them because I believe that would have had much serious consequences and effects on Jikooks dynamics no matter how much they tried to keep a cool facade. Whoever felt cheated on would have acted more insecure than usual post the incident- how does this make me a charlatan? Are you saying it's wrong it have an opinion? Chileee.

Now if you can produce 'evidence' of them having sex or even kissing, then I will gladly change my mind on the topic and not sweat it.

Jikook have done way worse questionable things in 7 good years and people still don't believe they are dating. Jk hangs out with a female friend a few times in less than a month and suddenly he is dating her? Lmho.

You don't need me to tell you people are more eager to accept a heterosexual relationship than wrap their heads around the fact that two male idols are gay and in a gay relationship with eachother. Don't you just love it when homophobia meets heteronormativity and stinks? I do. Lol.

I mean this is a fandom that thinks JK is 'too touchy' and doesn't respect his boundaries- they practically swear JK is cheating on Jimin with every member any time he hugs, kisses, wings at within the group. You think they will be 'objective' about JK hanging out with a girl? Even if it happened once?

You said something about confirmation bias.... I will not touch it. Lmho.

This is not the first time JK has gone on a date with a girl. This is not the first time he has 'dated a girl', he has hand girls on his laps or whatever- what is a back hug? I think people need to stop defining Jikook's lives by their own standards. If a backhug is intimate to you. Thats you. If you think a grown ass man cannot hang out with a female friend, that's equally you.

You think if he thought it was inappropriate and risky he would do it 'in public?' Get with Kpop Idol dating culture. Lmho.

Do you know the lengths they go through to keep their relationships a secret? Especially non celebrity girlfriends? Chen from EXO got married and where is his wife? They keep their flings tighter than Trump keeps his toupee on his head. Lol.

They hide them not out of shame but out of love and the need to protect their loved ones. These idols have family members who have their restaurants and businesses shut down because they want to keep their privacy.

You think JungKook's girlfriend would- on her own, issue a statement regarding a scandal that Jungkook's agency had specifically directed her and her shop to keep quiet about and lay low till it blew away on its own? And later, started liking couple posts about her and JK? If they were dating, certainly JK would have dumped her after that move. In my opinion.

You think JK would let his fandom drag the person he is in a relationship with to the extent she loses her Job- when in his Itaewon gay pub scandal BigHit referred to the issue as his private affair immediately it happened? They could have kept the same energy with her, no?

They handled his gay pub scandal much better, with much respect and consideration for his privacy- if he dated her sorry but she mustn't have meant much to him at all. And if I were her I would have dumped him for that shit and not stay liking couple posts about us. Damn- But do you.

Taehyung was in a scandal with a girl too- did you see her liking posts and shit and going out of her way to do the most? Did you see how BigHit handled that scandal?

Nothing wrong if JK is 'dating' her or had 'dated' her and whatever person he decides he wants to be in a relationship with I will support him- that's why I support Jikook.

But your opinion is equally valid my guy. Just don't call me a charlatan for mine. You believe they dated, I believe they didn't- and to your impressionable young minds, I hope you are not selling them anything contrary to BigHit and JK's statement. That would be very irresponsible of you. Lol.

What else did you say?

Oh postulating without evidence...

Next time I write a theory based on my observations about Jikook, remind me to break off a piece of my brain and attach it to it- I guess that way people would finally understand when I say things like 'I think' 'in my opinion' 'I feel' 'I believe' that these are just my thoughts and opinions and not facts.

Let me leave you with this:

Peace and kindness. Namaste.

Signed,

GOLDY.

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jojosbabe · 2 years

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I think i need to update my rules on my blog here.

So here they are.

These are boundaries i need to address and put because i feel like i didn't really make much of a rules post. Plus i feel i need to state these rules and boundaries because i have been having some weirdos on my blogs before and i wanna make sure its safe. Not just for me the admin but also anyone else on my blog.

Please respect the following.

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DNI if you are a minor and not allowed or not comfy with nsfw content. I can not stress this enough. All my content is aged up or is for mature audiences

DNI if you are a j*nadio,g*omis,or j*otkak shipper. (Any other ship regardless whether i like it or not is fine,tho im not fond of josuyasu because i genuinely see them as bros and fam so its weird to me they are not problematic so they can stay,so as long as they respect i dont see them as romantic to each other.i dont do avpol but the fans are not problematic for the most part so eh more less not my cup of tea but their fine. But those other ships are not cool with me) we do not do probships here. 🚫 if you even dare ship i*c*st or any of that shit. To the garbage can you go. Get off my blog and never return. AGAIN IF YOU DO PROBSHIPPING. GO AWAY PLZ.

DNI if you are against lgbt rights and the community. No this doesn't mean disagreeing with a ship or hcs,politely disagree and move on. Dont go throwing slurs at me or others because you got pissy with me or my followers hcs. This means actual problematic behavior and homophobia,transphobia,etc. So in other words no TERFS ALLOWED BITCH! NO IFS ANDS OR BUTTS. You can disagree with a hc,you do not throw slurs at someone for having said hcs. You absolutely do not have to like my hcs,but you do not throw your homophobic,transphobic,sexist bullshit at me or anyone else karen.

I will not tolerate racism or racist behavior towards him or me or anyone on this blog regardless of their ethnicity or background. You got a problem kyle? Theres the door. We dont do that here. Regardless of what you think or say. I will not tolerate that behavior FROM ANYONE. Thnx. (My irl boyfriend is a a moc and bipoc. So this is especially important for me to say. I shouldn't have to. But i will anyways)

I am only human man,i dont post as often,and i make mistakes. Go easy on me im still growing and learning as much as y'all. Whatever grace,dignity and respect is left on this hellsite. Please keep it. So if i make a mistake,i apologize in advance.

I like some villains in jojos. No i do not condone their actions. I can't believe i have to put this. But still. I do not condone the actions of jojo villains,i do want them to get their ass whooped and learn their lessons. But i love to explore ideas that are dark and not for the faint of heart. Or explore and idea of where they get betterish and have fluffy happy good times. So again if you are squick with this and or are a minor. DO NOT FUCKING INTERACT. Thnx

I do self shipping. Majority of the time. All my shipping is mostly self shipping anymore. So if you dont like that content. Do not follow me.

If you are caught disrespecting me,my followers,or anyone else on this hellsite. I will block,report,and fire the biggest muda and or ora on your ass. So please respect the wildlife here.

I don't do askboxes anymore due to harrassment i got in the past on this site. I also can't for the life of me fix my messages. So i apologize in advance for this.

If i missed anything let me know.

But i think that should cover it and sounds reasonable. But for any reason. If Anyone don't feel comfy here for whatever reason. Politely and please inform me. Maybe i can discuss it with you. If i share anything from someone that is problematic and harmful. Let me know asap, i will remove the post.

And you don't have to follow me for any reason just because im a jojo blog. Follow me because you like the content i make or share. Thank you.

But thank you for your time.

#Rules #admin rules #blog rules #PSA #psa from admin #admin notice #my blog rules #interaction rules #jojos bizarre adventure #jojo blog #boundaries

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erbis-artist · 3 years

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Ok. So this post thread is basically me venting and ranting about social media. If u are uncomfortable or dont care about this u can scroll pass it.

What I wanted to say is: I had enough. Every time I get msgs from my friends that somekind haters shit on my page and accuses me of shit for what I havent done. They repost my art without my permission, rip my comments out of context and this is already for a month or 2.

I got only 1 question: why? Why are u doing this? What do u want to do with spreading crap about me? U want to take me down? U want to make people hate me? Well I will tell u 1 thing - I dont care anymore. Do whatever the f*ck u want, if u got nothing better to do than shit on a person who minds their own buisness.

I had enough of those toxic shitters shitting on my ship (kruelee) that its toxic, while they ship 2 enemies who hate each other (kruecent) together. I had enough of people reposting my art and saying I draw something wrong just because of my artstyle. I had enough of this shit and I dont care anymore.

PS: if u are a kruecent shipper, I dont hate u as long as u dont hate on kruelee and spread shit about it. I respect all shippers until it gets shitty like this and people share their hateful opinions about a fictional ship, which causes innocent shippers getting into trouble because of haters/people who cant hold their mouth full of shit shut.

But at same time, I cant be quiet. I have to speak up and show people I aint the bad guy, because silence usually proofs u are at fault. All I want to do is reach equality. I had enough that shippers like me get blocked for their ship and get hateful comments on their posts, even tho they dont send it to anyone in private and just mind their own buisness creating. I had enough and I stand up for them and am ready to be their shield.

U think u do something good by hating on someone for shipping 2 fictional characters who are both adults? And then u scream someone of these shippers puts their opinions on your hateful opinions??? Lmao then u arent any better. U arent a god to be pure or perfect, u arent god to judge others for what they like. And if u think our opinions arent valid - your arent either.

I speak for all my friends and my favourite artists whom I support in what they do, and seeing hateful comments on their works I wont tolerate. Ok me, I dont care anymore. But others - its too much. U did enough by harrasing us for a somekind artstyle/fictional ship which isnt changable/isnt even real. U broke so many souls, who didnt deserve that.

I had enough watching how my close friends suffer from u all, who harrass us for nothing. Who accuse me, personally, in "sexualisation" "fetish" "toxicity in shipping" even tho they themselves create NSFW content and participate in NSFW rps while being a horny minor.

I had enough of this f*cked up hypocrisy. I had enough of someone thinking they are a king/god to control us. I am speaking up to stop all of this shit.

Now, if u are THAT person reading this and planning to post another hate post. Just stop doing that. U think u are helping? U think u are doing something good? All u do is showing u got nothing better to do, nor do u show you are better. In fact u behave like a immature kid, thinking u are doing SUUUUCH A BIG THING shitting on someone.

Instead of forgetting about us, not giving a shit about our existence, working hard and becoming better in what u like to do - u waste your time.

U wont take me down. I aint the type of person who will fall in front of your hypocritical feet and obey. I wont apologize for what I havent done. I wont give up. I wont accept the fact u are still here screaming shit about me and my friends. I will prove everyone that u are wrong, a hypocrite who likes j**king off on p*rn and posting crap.

Now, to my dearest fans and friends: I love u all and care for u a lot, I am sorry about everything u had to go through, I am sorry u saw so many bad things about me, I am sorry u had to deal with hate also. I am at fault I couldnt protect u nor could I control my rage because of which I f*cked up.

Please, if u are seeing this, care to share the truth, I dont want anyone more suffering, I want to stop all of this harrasment once and for all. Also DONT INTERACT WITH THEM, THEY ARE EXTREMELY MANIPULATIVE!!!

Now, I will post all the proofs they are the hypocrites and not me. Also the proofs contain lewds, NSFW, and other triggering things, 1st I will post innocent things, then the whole NSFW they created.

#personal vent #sorry for the rant #my rants #tw rant #rant

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melody-of-lost-souls · 2 years

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Heloo! Uh.. So, I literally love your blog and have been stalking it for months now.. (Pls don't think of me as creepy, that's just how I work ;-;)

So uhh.. I am one of the most extreme SNS supporters you will ever meet. I could rant for as long as possible to explain to you why I personally think that Sasuke and Naruto are soulmates. I would also rant for as long as possible to justify the reason as to why the Naruto ending is the worse ending EVER. But at the same time, I have really low self esteem so I always take criticism the wrong way. So it's pretty easy for me to shut off.. Um anyway.. I'm pretty sure you know the amount of harrassment we get from SS/NH stans only because we're shipping "brothers" according to their logic.. I'm kind of new to this fandom and I have never seen any chemistry between Sasuke and Sakura, or Naruto and Hinata, so I never really took interest in SS/NH fandoms. Please, I have better things to do than lie and delude myself on the daily basis. But I'll tell you that I brainrot and fantasize about Sasuke and Naruto married and having a healthy relationship where they both respect their space and have amazing kids who don't grow up in sketchy environments and train to fight off aliens. Anyways, while trying to enjoy fanarts of the characters and stuff I always find SS/NH fanarts around the corner. And boy does it tick me off. Anyway... My opinion isn't real popular, I don't think, but I generally prefer anything that's SNS honestly.. Wether it be one of them being a girl, Naruto being dominant or Sasuke. Whatever that includes 🍅🍥 bring together I don't mind. ANYWAYS... I cannot count the amount of headaches and frustrations I've had just by reading and finding SS/NH things (SS is what I see more often).. I understand they want to enjoy their ship, I mean don't we all?? But I mean, you don't need to twist your brain backwards just for your ship to make sense. They call us delusional, but by what means?? Do they call us delusional because we go for reality?? If they get to ship crappy ships why don't they mind their business and let us ship what we'd like to ship,?? Why does drama always have to occur.? I've seen so many people, not just SNS shippers but other Naruto shippers aswell literally being harrassed for disliking SS. It honestly scares me that people like that exists. It's gotten to the point where I can't even properly enjoy SNS because I'm afraid of being attacked.

I just wanted to know how do you cope with of these attacks and harrassments because I would do anything, and I mean anything just to keep SNS close to my heart... And also what are some tips to help ignore all of those negativities..

Thanks!

Hello Anon! Your ask made me smile, thank you so much <3 :)

Regarding to your question...At first time, when i started shipping them like "full time"(?) i mean putting all my attention to them, i also encountered myself with the negativity of SS and NH, and it was very stressing. My first post of why dont Boruto children make sense, got a lot of SS and NH insulting me and that made me very anxious at that moment. Must admit i tagged it wrong but anyway, they were FACTS not my opinion, but still they got mad and insulted me because of course they will behing their anonymity.

The only thing they can do, and they are good at it that must say, is fighting because they know well that the canon doesnt support them at all, so they have to do the hard job instead. I dont tend to get into discussions with them because it has no point. They "reign" on twitter instagram and youtube so i suggest you to not get into debates in there, because they tend to even call their friends and make cancel your account. So, i suggest you to stay away from them. If you get into a debate, let it be in a safe SNS account of twitter or instagram, because it will hypocrite to go to their accounts of their ships and say things (which can be true) because...yeah let them enjoy their ship. On instagram you can follow Sasunaru and Narusasu tags :) and accounts of them of course. Negative comments will appear always, not just from SS or NH but from dudebros who get annoyed to see reality, so we must cope with that. Just ignore them, do not try to read comments maybe on youtube because its full of them there. And on instagram, sometimes they put SNS tags for SS pictures (must say some SNS do the same, i hate that. the good is not that many just saw one) so you can encounter them even in some SNS tags, but just press the option button and say its spam Keep enjoying this beautiful ship, and at first their comments can be very hurtful, they are insulting you after all, but just remember they are some assholes from the internet who know nothing about you.

After all The strength of their grievance demonstrates the weakness of their argument.

#sasunaru #narusasu #antiss #antinh #sns naruto

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