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demonadelem · 1 year
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Niki had no idea that Philza was straight, he hadn't come out to her.
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sing-me-under · 1 year
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I like to think that all the people of the DSMP are functionally immortal until fatally wounded, it’s just that Phil just happened to survive the longest.
Like, the then-minors are all young in comparison but they’re still older than what our reality labels children. They all age and develop at wildly different rates, with Tommy being the youngest physically, mentally, and literally. Eryn is possibly the only other person to compete for youngest, but no one really knows for sure. They were childhood friends though.
Basically, this is me pushing the “Reality Has No Bearing On The DSMP”
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the-blaze-empress · 1 year
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What are your favorite things abt c!phil? i want to know his character better :3
OH ANON I WOULD BE DELIGHTED TO ANSWER THIS
god where to START hmmmmmm
okay ive stuck it under a read more because my god is there a lot. for anyone curious, i list off 10 of my favourite things about cphil (with explanations as to what an why), 10 of my favourite quotes, and also cover some more common fandom mischaracterisations
1 - his character design it's basic, but i need somewhere to start. i LOVE phils character design, idk, maybe its just something to do with birds and green and me being a cosplayer. especially his new skin! it has details, anon, and they all have meaning. i love me some details with meaning. and bc its minecraft, and because minecraft is pixels, theres SO MUCH ROOM FOR INTERPRETATION. anyone can go COMPLETELY ham with the design if they want to and they all look SO COOL.
2 - EMERALD DUO okay so ill say it outright; im a qpr emduo sorta person. at the very least im an ‘old friends/war buddies/ex emperors emduo’ person. dont get me wrong, techno is the eldest child, but in the dsmp, he’s not phil’s kid, they’re just really old friends. AND OH MY GOD I LOVE THEM. ‘for you the world’ NEED I SAY MORE??? the emeralds, the phil risking his life to protect techno from the butcher army, the techno worrying about phil participating in doomsday, the complete and utter undying trust they have in each other. theyre not perfect, they still disagree and still have differing opinions but they sort it out and compromise and make sure each other is always okay!!! them!!!
3 - birb cphil is a bird we all know this. and this is leaning more into fanon not explicitly canon, but im including it because i can. phil is bird, he has bird brain. bird instincts and bird features, like hollow bones, chirping, nesting, preening, all the good stuff. it adds a layer of depth to his character thats so fun to play with when writing!! there’s so much potential for both angst and fluff and i love it so much. also i just love birds so yknow. win win situation for me.
4 - family, its messy phil is part of what i believe is the biggest canonical family on the dsmp. there’s four generations ffs. he has a son, a grandson, even a great-grandson. and it’s not perfect. wilbur is. wilbur, but even though he went mad and even though he lied in his letters he still cared enough to send letters in the first place, phil still cared enough to read them. phil still cared enough to drop everything for his son. it was messy and it was heartbreaking but that is what it is to be a father, i think. sometimes whats right is whats hardest and its phils love for wilbur that was forever just so clear. its the way fundy fucked up, its the way phil fucked up in return, its the way they made up without properly making up but phil was always, always there for fundy, always cared for him at least a little, because that’s his grandson.
5 - leading on from the above, kristin!! ANON DO YOU KNOW HOW COOL IT IS FOR PHIL TO BE MARRIED TO THE LITERAL GODDESS OF DEATH?? phil is a trophy husband and you cannot convince me otherwise. his wife is SO COOL and SO POWERFUL and he loves her SO VERY MUCH. yeah sure hes a het guy in a homonormative society but i can forgive him for that because his wife is amazing. also less cphil, more ccphil, but i think its SO FUCKING COOL AND/OR FUNNY that ccphil literally just. wrote his wife into the dsmp on a whim. THATS how much he loves her that even tho shes not involved in this thing hes doing she’s still there in some sense.
6 - immortality yeah cphil CAN die, but here’s the catch; he doesn’t. hes functionally immortal and godddd i love it so much. hes so fucked up from it, but i love that about him (more on that point later). cphil has lived through so much and he has known so much and he has gained and lost SO MUCH but he’s still going strong, hes still loving and living and trying. who knows when he’ll finally die, not him and certainly not us.
7 - WOO TRAUMA mans is SO FUCKED UP. god where to even START with this. phil has not processed a single emotion in 500 years and he does NOT plan on starting now thank you very much. his sons death? nah lets build a country instead. watching his best friend be executed? nope not processing THAT lets find somewhere else to live oh yeah also i almost died. phils favourite thing is avoiding emotions and busying himself with some Other Task for Someone Else (new lmanburg, training room, various farms for techno, just to name a couple) so he Doesnt Have To Think About Anything. also perception of time? hell no he’s gonna be working for days without realising it. this is not healthy. he does not intend to stop. he blames himself for so much and rarely ever accepts help from anyone at all.
8 - kindness dont get me wrong if you get on the wrong side of phil you will find out exactly why some know him as the angel of death, but if ur not on that side of him, hes just. so kind and so caring. that one time when ranboo was deliberately trying to trigger the enderwalk out, and phil ran in and got rid of all the splash water bottles because he thought ranboo was getting hurt? yeah. that. protecting tommy without hesitation or question when dream was chasing him? yeah. that. building new lmanburg because tubbo had enough on his plate and he needed something to do anything to do he needed to keep his hands busy then it would be okay it had to be okay he had to be okay? yeah. that. visiting techno even while he was under house arrest to make sure he was okay? yeah. that.
9 - hes such a chaotic little fuck this is something a LOT of the fandom seem to. ignore. phil is not this sophisticated, calm, rational father figure. he can be sometimes (at a push) but thats not who he is. he’s an absolute chaos machine, and a fucking deadly one at that. he’s bored and you’re in the general vicinity? bye living! i think its well summed up in that one clip of phil and techno in a village, and techno’s grabbing a couple supplies here and there, and phil is just fucking gutting the place even if he doesnt actually need those supplies. he will murder (for fun), he will explode shit (for fun), he will cause mass genocide (for fun), he will fucking. idk he’ll do it all for fun.
10 - history imo, phil and techno are some of the best—if not the most—fleshed out characters in the dsmp. part of this, i reckon, is because of the history they have. you cannot talk about dsmp cphil properly without acknowledging smp earth and hardcore at the very least. the antarctic empire is there, phil and techno carry its shields and wear its colours. the angel of death is familiar to most if not all, the love for fucking freezing temperatures is there too. phil did decanonise the connection to hardcore, but a) many people who care ignore that, b) i ignore that, and c) it was there for at least a little, it had influence for at least a little. cphil is and old character, he didn’t just blip into existence in the dsmp, he has real, solid, pre-established history.
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and now for some of my favourite cphil quotes!!
1 - Things, buildings, they can be replaced! People can't be replaced. I'm not losing anyone else... I'm not losing anyone else. Not to this bullshit. 
2 - (“Since when was this a Philza Minecraft thing?”) “Since I was forced to kill my own son, you idiot!”
3 - look i made this entire section to include One Specific Quote except i now cannot find that quote. fuck this fuck me. it was something phil said in chat at one point, he was talking to sam, saying how he [phil] was immortal, he had seen nations rise and fall, he had seen people like sam who craved power come and go with little consequence. its a good quote, trust me, ill put it here when/if i can find it.
4 - "I've seen this 'government', on this server... Everything to do with government has just been bad so far. (...) I've watched it completely destroy and tear down people's wills, and change people... I've seen it change the nicest people into complete and utter tyrants. So I think it's about time.”
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okay quotes over now for some common fandom mischaracterisations, since u said u wanted to know cphils character better
1 - bad dad phil this one really gets me. i hate it, genuinely. phil was never and is not a bad dad. im not saying he was perfect, but he was not a bad dad. it is not his fault wilbur went mad, it is not his fault tommy was hurt so much in exile (more on that later), none of this is his fault. phil cares so much about his family and does everything he can for them, he was never neglectful or absent or anything of the sort.
2 - sbi family dynamics THESE HAVE BEEN DECANONISED BY LIKE EVERYONE IN SBI FOR THE DSMP. MULTIPLE TIMES. tommy was never phils son, he was just some kid phils actual son knew. techno is phils old friend, not his son. wilbur, however, is his son
3 - calm collected eloquent father SOMETIMES phil can have good fatherly advice. other times he really fucking does not!! cphil is shit with words, if you want someone whos always expressing their emotion in elegant prose, look at techno, not phil. he tries, he really does, but his perception of normality is warped, and sometimes he just doesnt fucking care?? hes chaotic and fairly independent, and yeah okay he may have taken in TWO stray kids (tubbo, when he was a child, and ranboo after doomsday) but hes not the like. serial adopter some people make him out to be
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so yeah, thats cphil for you! im more than happy to go into more detail about any of the above things, just ask! that goes for literally anyone btw. ill happily talk about fanon and more fandom characterisations, but ive tried to keep it as close to canon as i can so far. what’s great is that despite what he claims, ccphil is an excellent roleplayer and general storyteller, hes always adding little details and explaining reasoning behind things, so theres so much nuance and so much depth to cphil and the section of the world he inhabits. can you tell that cphil is my favourite character perhaps.
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bugflies00 · 1 year
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i just find it really funny when fics try to make internalised (or not) homophobia a thing in dsmp canon fics because its like . Where would they have gotten that from. everyones gay flirting with each other openly like i thought we had agreed it was a homonormative society
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fictionkinfessions · 10 months
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For the lgbt ask game, people joke about dsmp being a homonormative society from just how gay everyone around was :] <3 Being transmasc was also pretty easy for me, and I'm pretty sure I even did some kind of drag around in L'manberg, it was being objectum that was a lot rougher. Ever after everyone made out Philza's relationship with the fridge to be a joke, I haven't really felt as safe admitting the nature of my relationship with objects. Although I suppose people would understand were I to explain things. Still, I'd say the rumors about the server being homonormative are true
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Tommys whole constantly insisting how straight he is bit is even funnier in the DSMP bc it’s a homonormative society. c!tommy is the dsmp equivalent of the ““gays i don’t respect””
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tsui-no-sora · 2 years
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gay portals
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the dsmp is a homonormative society
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localsharkcryptid · 1 year
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Seeing a collection of posts that are just screenshots of people on the mcyt side of twitter bitching about how "problematic" mctyblr is is now the highest comedy to me. Like bro, why is constant drama normal to you??
Also just how many other people in the dsmp side of this have a massive wall between the characters and the ccs who play them in their minds? Or is it just me- cause you say Dsmp and my brain goes "ah yes fictional block men characters who've all committed crimes and are in a homonormative society" the last thing I think of is like the actual ccs unless you specify. Do some people just not have that distinction or am I too far down this hellhole.
A text form representation of my brain:
Dsmp Characters ||||||||||||||| Mcyt CCs who play the characters
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mangysah · 2 years
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People saying the dsmp is a homonormative society and heterophobia exists there is one of the funniest things ive ever heard
Does that mean canonically in church prime's bible it says if you're straight you will go to hell
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goatedgreen · 3 years
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diversity win! your fave dsmp character is straight!
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codyjey · 3 years
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this is real
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sing-me-under · 2 years
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DSMP’s Family Trees
*looks at canon* *squints* M-Preg is canon?
*squints more* Is M-Preg canon or is asexual reproduction following Greek Mythology logic canon?
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private-snippers · 3 years
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I have had a Realization. So Friend and Ghostbur were canonically dating, right? And now Ghostbur’s dead, like actually gone. So Friend is now widowed. Friend, a sheep, is a widow.
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igosploosh · 3 years
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They’re celebrating straight pride month at this very moment in the the Dream SMP
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crockerberts · 3 years
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so the dsmp is a homonormative society right, that’s been established, and i was talking w @a-firefly-faerie about this and we realized the possibility of heterophobia is very much there and also the funniest fucking concept ever. like. c!karl’s time traveling and ends up at c!phil and c!techno’s house and assumes they’re together and is corrected when he makes this assumption and the interaction goes smth like
karl: so how have you two been? how’s married life treating you guys?
phil: what
techno: what
karl: well, you guys are married arent you? yknow, two guys, secluded in the wild, alone
phil: i have a wife mate lmao
karl: a wif- uh. oh. i didn’t know you lived THAT kind of lifestyle, haha...
like the concept of heterophobic c!karl is THE funniest shit to me.
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maagee · 3 years
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I'm obsessed with the comically nonsensical world building of the DSMP
It's so clear that most of the time there was absolutely zero thought put into it other than "lol this will be cool for my character" and I love it so much.
First, you have the basic world building of Minecraft. The mobs, the structures and the three dimensions. Artifacts like totems, tridents and elytras that bear great power but cannot be created by a player. The magic system of potions and enchantments, and the basically non-existent, high fantasy lore that you can piece together however you want.
You also have the in-universe explanations for game mechanics. Canonical Skype to explain messaging and voice chatting while being far away from each other in-game. The End being unknown to inhabitants to explain why no one has gone there yet. Canon chats like the voices, crows, and particles to give characters a reason to monologue and explain their thought process.
Then there's the slightly odd, but still plausible stuff that's mostly the result of the inherent craziness of a Minecraft roleplay. A chaotic deity with unknown intentions that has an uncanny resemblance to that one guy everyone hates. An afterlife that may or may not have gotten so fucked up because of the existence of resurrection and ghosts. A parasitic alien entity that mind controls people into feeding it with human sacrifices. None of it has anything to do with Minecraft's lore, it's all batshit crazy stuff used for story.
Specifically I would like to mention TFTSMP. Not only do we have a time traveller, being fought over by two sentient (?) dimension-entity things, but also we get a glance into the world's fairly realistic history and steampunk-with-dystopian-undertones future.
There's also advanced technology that clashes so hard with the game mechanics, you can't help but laugh. Crossbows are apparently guns. One guy just made nukes. Smartphones and social media exist, yet people still have no proper transportation and mainly use medieval weapons like swords, axes and bows. It's amazing.
And then. We get to the best of it all. The character specific stuff. Ranboo is an enderman-something hybrid with human intelligence, proving that either cross species reproduction exists, or Shou Tucker is on the loose again. Philza has (had) wings and an extraordinarily long lifespan for unknown reasons. Charlie is a slime that said "fuck it, meat time" and evolved into a human out of sheer boredom. BBH is just a straight up demon. Where is he from? Hell I guess? Foolish is an immortal totem god who's also part shark with lightning powers because of course he is. There are also multiple animal hybrids whose existence implies... things... And I'm not even gonna get into Fundy's family tree and everyone else.
There's countries, elections, revolutions and wars founght by about a dozen people. Except not, because apparently regular background characters and citizens exist, who just... Put up with everyone's drama I guess? And what about the multiple religions?? And the apparently homonormative society???
It's all so nonsensical and it's so perfectly fitting for DSMP and it's scuffed, chaotic energy. I love it so much.
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