#ferengi history

[solarbird]

I guess... I'm writing again? Didn't think it'd be Star Trek but I do love me some Lower Decks so I GUESS WE'RE DOIN' THIS

It's one story, short, and slots directly into Series 4 continuity. Look up the stardate and you'll be able to place this within five minutes of on-screen action.

#star trek #lower decks #ferengi #ferenginar #rules of acquisition #ferengi history

[chicago-geniza]

Anyway remember how I was impressed by the depth and detail about finances and practical/legal issues with trust funds in The Secret History. Guess who is an independent consultant in “wealth management” as well as “trust and estate planning.” Donna’s “dearest friend in the world” Paul McGloin lmaooo. Lili Anolik was going on at length about what a brutal blow it was that she fictionalized everyone in the Greek class except him but his professional expertise--his profession--informs the book’s rising action up to the denoument of Bunny’s murder!!!  

#raya reads the secret history #donna tag #you know who would love the secret history. quark #he would commission it as a holosuite program #ferengi would go apeshit for all the finance subplots

[hi-my-name-is-dotdotdot]

lil star trek observation

“ferengi” was probably inspired by the word for “foreigner” across much of the indian subcontinent

can’t speak for all languages but in bengali and in whatever language that one show was it sounds an awful lot like “foh-rihn-gee” or “fih-rin-gee”

and that word is specifically always used to refer to the british, namely, the british colonizers

also, I thought it’s interesting how the british originally colonized through the east india tea company, they’re were like don’t mind us we’re just here to trade :))))))

but then mercantilism was like “actually you need colonies to be the wealthiest”

so britain was like “hahaha psych we’re not here to trade we’re here to conquer for all that money and riches :D” *

and how st ferengi are the most wealth focused capitalistic money making schemers ever

but really, they’re just following tradition - human tradition - of doing anything for riches

*i am simplifying history and I know it. leave me be. this is just a silly little star trek post

#star trek #ferengi #star trek ds9 #because there’s the most ferengi on that one #slightly history ig

[writergeekrhw]

what parts of real history were most influential on your writing in ds9?

Off the top of my head:

Bajor - WW2, the Troubles, Israel/Palestine, the Belgian Congo

Dominion - Roman, Mongol, and British Empires

Cardassia - The Cold War, DDR

Federation - The Red Scare, various CIA scandals, post-WW2 America in general

Maquis - The Maquis

Ferengi - late stage Western Capitalism, Robber Barons

#ask me anything #tv writing #ask me stuff #ds9 #star trek ds9 #deep space nine #star trek #star trek deep space nine #deep space 9 #star trek deep space 9 #history

[1-800-free-oo-mox]

SNW: you guys remember ferengi? well now theyre 12 foot tall computer generated graphics who only sell HUMAN BONES! OH MY GOD THEYRE ATTACKING THE SHIP!! but SULU (played by Jensen Ackles) just got transfered here (he is a veteran of the great ferengi bone war), WHAT? christine chapel and sulu have HISTORY? and they're at it like they The Naked Now? Spock is REALLY sad and angry and smashes up his chess set (she just broke up with him because they had communication issues) and pike makes him an ancient earth BLT (his favourite) to cheer him up and explains this is what being human is about. Uhura might not be able to translate the ferengi echolocation screeches as they extract the bones from the crew, but maybe, just maybe, she can translate Spock & Chapel's miscommunication issues and save their relationship. sulu sees spocks smashed chess set and it gives him a GENIUS tactical idea against the ferengi: MUSIC! Me:

#snw #star trek

[the-mushroom-faerie]

maybe I've been spoiled by stargate but I feel like other sci-fi shows should have more archeology as world building. give me city ruins of when the Q were physical beings. give me ferengi El Dorado missions. give me evidence that Earth has been touched by aliens throughout history. give me dig sites on the klingon homeworld (idk how to spell it). JUST GIVE ME ARCHEOLOGY PROVING THAT THE UNIVERSE IS INTERCONNECTED

#stargate #stargate sg1 #stargate atlantis #star trek #mushroom rambles #these are all star trek references bc i dont know enough about other space shows #also its 630am and i should be asleep not yearning for archeology in space shows #ruins and excavation sites are just such good world builders and stargate does such a good job with that #and now i want it everywhere

[funtasticfunman]

quark: for the last time, odo, it's not theft, it's the future. artificial intelligence, for the masses! totally unbiased because of its limiting factors; where older models take all the knowledge of their brilliant creators, my model takes knowledge a layman might use and predicts your needs.

odo: i see. and what need do the multiple fabrications of starfleet personnel in the nude fulfill?

quark: the simplest need in the world, odo, even you understand that.

odo: and your unauthorized and potentially libelous auto-generated materials are sourced purely from materials you own.

quark: sure, sure, materials i own, materials other ferengi own, materials i scraped from the datanet - that's ownership too! if no one claims it, that means it's free.

odo: i see. you do understand your generative text is limited purely to information on the datanet, yes?

quark: yes.

odo: and anyone, from the most brilliant scientific mind to the most drooling infidel capable of using a computer, can put whatever they want on the datanet, yes?

quark: yes, exactly! information sourced from the masses, not from some ivory tower federation scholars.

odo: yes, and that's all well and good. now, i've taken a printout i confiscated from some students at o'brien's academy. this is what your "artificial intelligence" produced when sisko's boy asked for a comprehensive history of interpsecies relationships throughout history.

quark: oh, so it IS being used for intellectual enrichment after all. NOT theft. let me see tha--oh. wh--is that...? i don't even know half of these words, odo...a-are these--?

odo: slurs, yes. mostly sourced from orion street gangs, but slurs nonetheless.

quark: that is a LOT of slurs...

#star trek #ds9 #star trek ds9 #deep space nine #st ds9 #star trek deep space nine #ai #artificial intelligence #quark #odo #crack

[clouds-of-wings]

My favourite Star Trek TNG characters:

Data

Riker's beard

Klingon culture

Picard when he's in "Earl Grey fueled history/poetry nerd" mode

The Ferengi being annoyed

The Ferengi being smug

Data again, somehow

Humanity, especially in comparison to the real thing

#star trek #st: tng

[slippery-domjot-balls]

DS9 S4 E11 Homefront & E12 Paradise Lost, slippery thoughts

Wow....let me catch my breath. That was a wild and tense ride. Nice scenery too. Obviously these are just my opinions, but I wanted to share them because Star Trek makes me happy and passionate. I want you to be happy and passionate too!

Given the intensity of these two episodes I completely forgot it started off with Jadzia pulling off the most specific pranks on Odo.

Jadzia: I sneak into my coworker's private quarters and move his furniture by 3 cm every couple of days.

Quark: That's weird. They would not even notice that change.

Jadzia: Oh, no no no. He sees it every time and it drives him insane.

Audience: Oh you silly worm!

And I loved that we got to see these two besties playing pretend. We need more Miles and Julian aviation adventures. Super cute pals.

R.I.P. Clive

Playtime is over now because the changelings have basically infiltrated Earth and are ruining everything all the time and it isn't fun anymore....or are they? They are, but are they? Possibly. Probably. Perhaps.

To me this kind of episode is the pinnacle of what Star Trek writing has always been about. We see a complex evaluation of choices in conflict. It is not about an obvious "right" or "wrong", but one decision versus another. This is a battle between perspective and reason. All sides contain some merit. This episode also shows good intentions taken too far and taken beyond the ethical reasoning that initially inspired the action.

If this episode were to have a villain it would be fear and paranoia itself and not any particular character.

Vice Admiral Leyton was an amazing character. It was brilliant to establish that he had a close professional history with Sisko early in the episode because it immediately made me trust him. You sneaky writers!! But that was the whole point. The story that was unfolding to the audience purposefully made us feel betrayed with Sisko. We co-experienced in real time the feeling seeing a close friend commit treason.

Enter the most powerful man on Earth. He can move the most stubborn hearts, calm the most irrational mind, and fill up the most starved stomach. Replicated foods beware of Grandpa Sisko. I see where Jake gets his style too! It was so believable that these three were family. You could see how cadences, mannerism, and behaviors in Granddad Sisko were passed to Ben and then passed down to Jake, but in their own naturally developing ways in each generation.

*Spoiler Alert* Grandpa Sisko also saves the day.

Just when I thought this episode had all the ingredients for perfection Nog the keeper of all things pure and innocent shows up. Look at that smug Ferengi. He knows that he is the best thing at the Academy and so do we.

A great thing about these two episodes is that every character acts as an essential part of the story. Nog will lead Ben on the chase with his talk of the Red Squad. A+ Nog!

This ain't your normal seagull. This one loves Bajoran women.

Around this point we have all the main details of the episode. Admiral Leyton and Captain Sisko are working together to protect Earth from a suspected Dominion infiltration and invasion. The President of the Federation is against the proposed worldwide security changes but reluctantly allows their implementation.

With security personnel, blood tests of all crucial Starfleet staff and family members, and martial law practically in effect everywhere we are ready to repel any Dominion attacks. After all, the wormhole was winking at DS9 a lot so perhaps a cloaked invasion fleet is on Earth's doorstep.

HERE WE GO! Papa Sisko challenges Daddy Sisko's paranoia. Ben is seeing changelings in his sleep and not the Odo kind either.

So we start to see the episode present one of it's many challenges:

How far should we trade individual autonomy for protection?

And THIS is why I love Star Trek. Grandfather Sisko is absolutely correct!! And yet, Ben Sisko is also correct. Both want to protect what they love, life ad they know and perceive it.

We search for the highest good in each situation. Ben wants to secure and save everything he loves on Earth. He wants to protect his family, his home, and everything therein. Grandpa Sisko wants the EXACT same thing. The methods to achieve their shared goal is in conflict.

DS9 writers have a candy bar on me. Well done!!! (engage smooching sounds)

This very moment is crucial for Ben. His paranoia is pushing him toward the type of dictatorial control that Admiral Leyton is calling for, but Ben has found that not only is something odd happening in the background but this entire movement smell stinky.

Nog is such a good cadet. I love him with all my little heart. He provided critical information about Starfleet Academy's unofficial super special secret mean girls club Red Squad. This little snack of information sets Ben Sisko on the trail of breadcrumbs leading to the smorgasbord of treason committed by Leyton.

Smug Shapeshifting O'Brien is a gift. Enjoy every second of this hilarious goop boy. Colm really did a great job. We do see that there is a Dominion changeling on earth (saw it earlier in Homefront as well). We understand how real the threat of their activity can be. We especially see how terrifying a changeling can be when Dominion version O'Brien has a little chat with Ben. It might only take one hostile changeling to completely destabilize an entire world.

I do wish we figured out how the fake changeling blood was created to trap Sisko. Clever girl, Admiral.

I felt bad for Leyton. He is someone caught in a difficult position of authority and personal fears. His own paranoia drove him to the utmost extreme. I imagined that maybe he has a cute little family with a kid back home. I imagined what it might be like in his shoes. It would be hard to live thinking that your lack of effort led to the death of your child or friend or family member or significant other. It would be hard to go to bed knowing that the person you once shared it with prematurely died because of that you thought you failed to do. Even in much of the two episodes his facial expressions show a man full of internal strife and conflict. It is as if he kept questioning his actions as he made them.

What if his fear of failing his community drove him to radical dictatorship? He wanted to keep all that he loved safe, but he betrayed everyone he loved. He demanded that all his loyal friends trust him. Trust is a two way exchange though. He abandoned trusting his friends and confidants. That was the beginning of his downfall.

Leyton wanted to protect society at the cost of society itself. He could not see beyond his fear of losing society to war and enemies abroad to the point of blindness. He became an enemy of all he cherished, and I honestly think that he knew that too. He was just so scared that he desperately dug in to the one aspect of his life that he thought he could control, which is so relatable. We all can act irrationally under stress and pressure. This is not justification or approval. This is accepting that life may not have as many villains in it as we are told to believe. People are just trying to be people, meet their obligations and responsibilities while preserving what little bit of life exists to enjoy.

We are all prone to brash behaviors in order to protect what we love, but sometimes it is healthy to set down the admiralty bars and accept that you can't do it all, especially alone.

Remember that everyone in this episode wanted the same thing. Leyton wanted to protect life. Sisko wanted to protect life. Grandpa Sisko wanted to protect life. Everyone held the same belief and motivation.

I appreciated how solemnly Leyton gave in and how respectfully he surrendered. It actually felt less like defeat and more like he was relieved of a burden that he was too overwhelmed to carry alone. He didn't need to carry it alone but chose to go alone. In a symbolic way by removing the admiral bars he set down his fear and moved on.

The amount of time taken for these shots impressed upon me the symbolic significance of it. Sisko also lets go and moves on with Leyton. By setting the phaser down he too lets go and agrees it is time to move forward from this conflict. He is still betrayed and disappointed, but he is not stuck or trapped in the past. He sets down his weapon and joins Leyton in facing a reality outside the oppression of their own paranoia.

I loved that Paradise Lost ends with the restaurant opening up again. It is the resolution these episodes needed. It was closure showing that being open to others and not letting the world cloud you of the humanity in others is fundamental to life.

Despite the many differences in all these characters, regardless of where they were in the progress of their own lives, no matter the goal or intention, we all essentially desire the same things.

Star Trek is the future I hope for!

If you made it to the end of this post and are reading this then 10,000 sweet kisses to your forehead. If you didn't make it then I am still giving your forehead tender kisses, you are just not aware of it.

#pictures courtesy of trekcore.com #love you @trekcore #star trek deep space 9 #ds9 #DS9 gang #slippery thoughts #benjamin sisko #miles obrien #julian bashir #worf #jadzia dax #kira nerys #odo ital #nog #quark #morn #admiral leyton #i am not going to add any more tags

[fictional-library-tournament]

Prelims round 1, poll 17

Propaganda

SCP-4001 "Alexandria Eternal", SCP Foundation:

Its books contain the entire true events of all humans dead and alive, its space loops around on itself, the decoration fits the current times at all times, there are about 120 Billion books!

It's the place of all truths of this world but the lighting is shit.

SCP-2602, SCP Foundation:

Technically it used to be a library

Memory Alpha, Star Trek:

I mean.... it's THE big archive of everything the Federation knows about everything. It's all on Memory Alpha. Such that one of the biggest fan wikis for Star Trek is itself called Memory Alpha.

The Ferenginar Historic Public Library, Star Trek: Lower Decks:

"Ferengi public libraries go hard!" - Beckett Mariner

Vulcan Archives, Star Trek:

(the photo is not of the archives but of the vulcan high command - but it's the same vibes, really)

it contains Vulcan history and probably lots of federation history and if we know anything about Vulcans, it must have a really good, logical archival system <3

in aos, the physical archive is destroyed alongside the destruction of Vulcan :((( however, its digital version survives - the library of Alexandria could never

#fictional libraries #tumblr tournament #archives #books & libraries #fictional archives #libraries #tumblr polls #poll #scp #scp 2602 #Star Trek #Star Trek tos #star trek tng #Vulcans #Star Trek Vulcan #Vulcan archives

[stoplookingup]

A story about kidnapping a baby right around the time of a Christian holiday and having a wild ritual celebration before eating it is NOT referencing the antisemitic blood libel myth, because the story is about goblins and not Jews, and anyway their noses aren't even big. Or possibly -- hear me out now -- it IS, given that fantasy fiction involves the imaginative transmogrification of the familiar into the fantastic, transforming it in a whole host of ways, but preserving, consciously or otherwise, perceptible traces of the source history, culture, beliefs, and mythology.

I find it impossible to believe Russell Davies would do this intentionally, but I also find it impossible to believe that someone with extensive experience writing in this genre, in light of all the discourse about possible antisemitic subtext to goblins in Harry Potter, goblin-esque Ferengi in Star Trek, etc, wouldn't stop a moment and consider exactly what kind of Christmas goblin story he's telling. I'm just...baffled.

#the church on ruby road #doctor who christmas 2023 #rusty rusty rusty

[thegeminisage]

oh, it's also finally time for the official ds9 character ranking as of the end of s1. i'm not doing minor characters yet (jake, nog, garak, keiko) since they haven't had any major stuff going on and idk if they ever will. rankings in the future may be different.

odo - whatever autistic swag he has going on has charmed and bewitched me. i'm so easy i love little guys that don't get humanity. he seems like the natural choice after spock and data i should have known this would happen. every single thing i learn about him makes me more insane. also, he's so dour and gruff that he is just BEGGING to be given an arc where he gets a child or a love interest or whoever who gets to be the only one able to lighten him up at all. and i know about him getting with kira so i am just sitting here like. PLEASE let that be good. please.

kira - ALL OF HER SCENES ARE SO GOOD. i liked her from the beginning but they have done NOTHING but feed me ever since the pilot. her conflict, or rather, lack of conflict, now that the war is over, is so fucking good. who even is she now that she's not the underdog? how do you just move on once the war is over? she's such a good actress too, she smiles when she's angry and she can cry on cue. you can feel the weight of her history every single time she's on screen, she's fantastic

sisko - the only reason he didn't tie with kira is because we haven't seen as much sisko-centric stuff yet. i thought his intro in the pilot was INSANELY good, it blew my mind, and i couldn't wait to see where he went from there...but then he didn't go anywhere else. that said, i do love that he always backs up his people, especially kira and odo since they're not federation. also i LOVE what a good dad he is and his extremely wholesome jokes about that time he and dax fucked twins or whatever.

bashir - i love to laugh at this guy. he is SO good comedically and i don't know why i didn't expect him to be the comedy character but he is. i know he has some deeper stuff later and i CANNOT WAAAAIT to see what else he is gonna have going on with garak, i'm very excited for his future. i feel like once bashir finally gets a serious storyline it's gonna hit me like a fucking truck because of how silly he is the rest of the time...my favorite cringefail loser <3

o'brien - he would have tied with bashir except again he had less stuff to do. i like him so much better in ds9 than tng and he is SOOO longsuffering but i'm still waiting to see why everyone says he suffers more than jesus on the cross. also, i fucking love his little girl. she's so cute i die. i'm never sorry to see this guy on my screen.

dax - love and light to women and people who are only currently women and genderfluid worms everywhere, so far i feel pretty uncompelled by the dax stuff. i mean, i don't dislike her or anything, but she can't hold a candle to some of the characters higher on this list. her hair is So Big that it's weird to look at but i could forgive this if she was less...buttoned up? she's always very :X except when she talks about how cool it is to be a hot woman everyone likes flirting with, which, like, GOOD for her, but i'd like to know who she is beyond that. her personality seems so fluid she doesn't have one - even sisko paints a more vivid picture of curzon dax than we get of jadzia, which is mostly a lot of blah. i absolutely believe they'll make her more interesting later they just haven't caught me yet

quark - i mean. this was inevitable. i DO like him better than i thought i would and whatever he has going on with odo is extremely fucking funny, but on his own he's not as funny as bashir and he's not got as much depth as the rest of the cast, plus there's the whole ferengi issue of them not being written well in general. he's actually such a huge improvement on all other ferengi ever though that i deeply considered giving him the #6 spot, but dax, while uncompelling, DID at least get a backstory episode that was good instead of that episode quark got that made him hold the idiot ball. so.

#personal #star trek blogging #ds9 lb

[disgruntledexplainer]

is it just me, or has Star Trek aged particularly badly as a franchise? I’m not talking technobabble; I’ll give most pre-1970s shows a pass for bad science, since they were really doing their best, and some of my favorite shows use the exact same bad science. I’m talking about it’s tone. I used to like it a lot, but now it just feels really smug and pretentious. “look at how MY secular values have produced a SPACE UTOPIA! All because we have abandoned SUPERSTITION for SCIENCE!”. give me a break.

it somehow manages to be both grossly ethnocentric in it’s embrace of western values while at the same time completely dismissive of the culture that those values sprung from. it is unabashed worship of modernism, a philosophy that died 2 decades ago because of how shallow and meaningless it was (only to be replaced with post-modernism which is arguably worse). with the notable exception of the inclusion of the Ferengi there seems to be no real effort to question or critique the philosophy, or even add a little nuance to it. it never makes any attempt to address the societal ills that resulted from modernism and secularism. it is the storytelling equivalent of drinking mayonnaise.

say what you will about Star Wars, but at least it took 2 REALLY BAD movies to ruin it for me (I still maintain the Force Awakens had some potential). but all it took to ruin star trek for me was getting a bachelor’s degree in the social sciences (history, leaning heavily toward anthropology) to see how full of shit it really is.

edit: it seems that most of the problems I have with the franchise came out of TNG and DS9, not the original series. so I guess... take this as a post about how the original is better than it’s successors?

#science fiction #movies #shows #tv #star trek

[berrymimes]

Considering it was illegal for Ferengi women to wear clothes for most of their history, does your Ferengi captain ever just... not wear her uniform around the ship?

Nahhh she was adopted and grew up on earth so she’s not familiar with ferengi culture. The moment she found out it’s illegal for ferengi women to be clothed, she decided to overdress for every occasion ever.

#ellie text #ellie ocs #ask

[writergeekrhw]

with regards to writing Bajor as being influenced by the Israel/Palestine conflict--I hope you can understand why it might be upsetting that, assuming Bajor=Pal and Cards=Israel, that you're putting Jews in the place of literal lizard people? I really really hope that's not what you mean, but I can't be sure when antisemitism is so pervasive in leftist spaces (and right wing ones. And everywhere else.)

Bit of a charged question, but I do say "Ask me ANYTHING," so here's my honest response:

If Americans can sometimes be the inspiration for the Federation, the Ferengi, the Cardassians, AND the Dominion, then Israelis can be the inspiration for the Bajorans in some situations and the Cardassians in others.

Over the long arc of history, every nation can be both a light and a shadow, both hero and villain. To deny that is to deny our responsibility when our governments or people act horribly. Your own military called a recent attack on a Palestinian town by Israeli settlers a "pogrom." IMO, to point that out and say it's a bad thing is not antisemitic. It's anti-pogrom.

Also, again, from my perspective, given that not all Jews are Israelis and not all Israelis are Jews, Israel =/= Judaism any more than Italy = Catholicism.

Your world view may vary.

#ask me anything #tv writing #ask me stuff #ds9 #star trek ds9 #deep space nine #star trek #star trek deep space nine #deep space 9 #star trek deep space 9

[1-800-free-oo-mox]

One of my ferengi ocs "Ni-Ni" Neen, chief medical officer of the USS Trawler.

Some random stuff about her:

Has one of those stupid horned dog-like aliens from tos as a pet and it's just called Dog in English

Favourite holodeck program is an over the top USA 80s stockbroker drama/simulation

Pretends to be an exaggerated stereotype of a ferengi in a very dry sarcastic way but actually feels animosity towards ferenginar

In reality is a MASSIVE Hew-mon-aboo and loves Earth history and culture, becoming extremely knowledgable about it but often using this knowledge to take jabs at humans so as to not "stroke their egos"

Named after this. this is what she sounds like

Smokes random shit she finds on planets (off duty) and then usually has to cook up some antidote to stop whatever insanity happens

Catchphrase is (disgusted tone) "Look I'm not your mother."

Makes out to all the new cadets and crew members she was some kind of evil organ harvester money collector before starfleet to scare them as a running gag

Despite obvious awful bedside manner she tends to grow on people- being deadpan funny, incredible at her job, relentlessly resourceful and cool under pressure and difficult decisions

#ocs #She also has two brothers and parents and everything but drawing hard so I will post about them (and her backstory) another time #and the rest of the crew of course #star trek #ferengi