I'm trying to stay as far away from the Shannon discussion because I get where those who are disabled and suffered less than stellar treatment their entire lives by the people who were supposed to lift them up come from.
I would say that both parents made mistakes, some of them could have been fatal, but Eddie is trying to make up for it.
And Shannon wanted to make up for it, she literally said she wanted to learn how to be a good mother.
Being a good mother doesn't necessarily means she has to be a wife too. She and Eddie may have been good at some point and they may be good in bed together, but a physical connection is not enough to make a happy couple. And unhappy parents make for unhappy and unbalanced children - a thing I have first hand experience with. Both as a child growing up and a school teacher.
I think Shannon made up her mind according to her last conversation with Eddie that she wanted to learn to be a better mother.
I also think she died before she had that chance to prove herself, and that is what bugged me.
I think Christopher deserved to have both his parents in his life, that may have started as horrible examples of parents but time made them smarter and better, he deserved to have a chance to get to know what it's like to be supported and raised by both parents, together or apart.
I am a buddie fan, but buddie has no standing here. They could get a divorce and still raise Christopher together. Just like Rachel and Danny in H50.
Shannon's deserved to live if only to have one female on the show that wasn't a main one that managed to get redemption for past actions done as a young, inexperienced mother.
Personally I was conflicted in 2x17, because talking to my sister we both agreed that Eddie deserved to be left to his own devices, at least until Shannon's mother either gone into remission or died of her cancer. But Shannon could and should have taken Christopher with her, I know I would have taken my child with me and that is the one main thing I couldn't forgive her for.
In 3x15 I understood her better, but still could not understand how she could leave her child behin even if it was with his father/grandparents.
When I say she deserved better, I mean she deserved a chance to redeem herself, she deserved to do better by Christopher, she deserved to be happy with Christopher and raise him, properly this time.
Because the show may have presented Christopher as a well adjusted child, but no child that I came across in my over ten years as a teacher, no matter how well adjusted he/she was, ever got over losing a parent, at any age. It sticks with you well into adulthood.
So in reality, I don't think just about Shannon here, I really, mainly thinking about Christopher.
Eddie, Buck, the 118 firefam, extanded family, and any ill advised girlfriend/stepmother that will come along, will never fill the hole, where Christopher mother used to be.
They will help, they will make sure he is happy and healthy and safe and loved.
But he will always miss her, she will always remain the woman who left, because the writers didn't see fit to give her a chance at redemption.
Phew, this was heavy, and long, hope it made sense eventually. If you managed to get this far thank you ❤
Have a lovely Sunday everyone 🤗🤗
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What are your all time favorite moments of hurt/comfort? (TV shows/movies/video games/books/fanfiction etc.)
HHHOOOH BOY!!! Okay this list is LONG but you asked ;) Also, I know I’m missing something but I already spent way too long on this really long list so I’m gonna just leave it as is
Tv Shows:
John Sheppard screaming in Stargate Atlantis “38 Minutes”
Merlin getting poisoned and he can barely breath due to the high fever in “Poisoned Chalice”
Face shot and bleeding out while hostage saying he didn’t see that guy in The A-Team “Without Reservations”
Danny Williams in Hawaii Five-0 when he collapses, unable to breathe, after being infected with sarin
Danny and Jack’s confrontation in “Need”. That hug is my favorite
Mike Warren going through detox in Graceland
Mike Warren getting stabbed and the recovery stuff in Graceland 1x09 and 1x10
Mike Warren groaning and writhing in pain in the hospital in Graceland 3x01
Killian held down in the water and drowned by Zelena and being saved by Emma in OUAT
DiNozzo and Gibbs at the end of SWAK when Gibbs tells him he won’t die
Zuko zapped by lightning while protecting Katara in the finale ATLA
Mike Warren’s breakdown with Charlie post intervention in Graceland 3x08
Lucifer’s scars are revealed to Chloe for the first time
Daniel Jackson in the padded room in SG-1 “Legacy”
Buffy 3x22 when Angel is shot with poisoned arrow
Dean Winchester weak and sick in “Faith”
Dean Winchester on the ventilator in “In My Time of Dying”
Dean Winchester getting taken by the djinn in “What is and what shall never be”
The Bones episode where Booth is bodyguarding Bones and gets blown up
Also, the Bones episode where Bones and Hodgins are trapped underground in that car because of the Gravedigger
Thomas Barrow getting beaten up at the Downton Abbey fair
Thomas Barrow’s suicide attempt
The Magicians 2x04 when Eliot says he expected to die in Fillory
Lucifer 4x05 he gets shot and held hostage in his club with Chloe
White Collar “Vital Signs” when Neal is high and then gets taken care of by the Burkes
White Collar when Neal and Peter are trapped in that vault and Neal suffocates
When Neal is shot in the leg in White Collar 4x01
One Day at a Time 3x12 with Schneider’s relapse
The Haunting of Hill House episode that focuses on Luke’s journey
OUAT 4x16 when August is kidnapped and tortured by the villains and when he’s rescued and all sick and sleepy on the couch, oh and the next episode when he’s unconscious and Emma is rubbing his hand with her thumb
Original MacGyver episode 1x11 “Nightmares” is so good with poisoned/sick/confused Mac.
Malcolm’s night terror in the precinct in Prodigal Son episode 1
Lucas in Emerald City 1x02 when he’s injured, collapses, passes out, gets poisoned and Dorothy takes care of him
Marty Deeks gets shot in NCIS LA 2x17
Danny getting shot in quarantine and Steve having to do emergency field surgery on him in Hawaii Five-0 8x10
The Magicians when Eliot is stabbed by Margo to get the Monster out of him
Klaus in the Umbrella Academy. Just all of his scenes really. But the bathtub flashback post Vietnam is a favorite of mine. And the bus scene when he first comes back and just breaks down
The first episode of the O.C. cause I love how Ryan ends up with the Cohens.
The collapsed building episode of Hawaii Five-0
When Danny is shot in H50 on their camping trip
Luke Crain. Everything but I really love when he’s in the Red Room and dying and Steve is giving him cpr in The Haunting of Hill House
Jamie Lannister getting his hand cut off in Game of Thrones season 3
Dwight Enys’s captivity in Poldark season 3
Eliot Spencer in Leverage: getting shot in 5x09, 3x15 cause of the emotional whump, getting hit by the carnival ride in 4x06,
Thomas Barrow crying in the corner because he’s so god damn lonely in Downton Abbey
That episode of Bones where Booth is shot by that crazy stalker girl in 3x14
Merlin poisoned in 5x08
Tom Paris stabbed in Star Trek Voyager 3x03
David Tennant in Doctor Who “the Christmas Invasion” and “Smith and Jones” and “42″
Movies:
Hugh Jackman getting beaten up in Real Steel
Venom. Just all of it
Philip Carlyle trapped in the fire in The Greatest Showman and PT carrying him and the hospital stuff with Zendaya
Miyazaki’s Princess Mononoke. Ashitaka’s curse is fantastic
Tony Stark’s anxiety attacks in Iron Man 3
The Martian
Illya Kuryakin trapped under the motorcycle in The Man From Uncle. And his hand tremor
Roger Mackenzie’s horrible journey in Outlander season 4
When Zod dies and Clark cries in Man of Steel
When RDJ on hanging on that hook in Sherlock Holmes: A Game of Shadows
that Jake Gyllenhaal hypothermia scene in Day After Tomorrow
When Mullet Fingers is bitten by the dog and ot gets infected in Hoot
Fanfics (I have literally read thousands and picking my favs is impossible cause they’re all amazing but here are a few I’ve read them all dozens of times):
NCIS: In The Dark
NCIS: There Loomed and Ogre
NCIS: Fade Out
Merlin: Protecting the Protector and Of Knights and Neckerchiefs
Marvel: 450 Feet Under
Lucifer: Castaway
Hawaii Five-0: Lost at the Edge of the Sun
Hawaii Five-0: Just Peachy
Hawaii Five-0: Haole
ATLA: A Misunderstanding of Sides
ATLA: Stealing from Pirates
SG1: The Stuff of Legends
SG1: Don’t Mess With Danny
Merlin: Protecting the Protector
Merlin: Of Knights and Neckerchiefs
Merlin: The Visiting Prince
Books:
The Hardy Boys books. Specifically the Ice Cold Case, Hurricane Joe, and the one where Iola dies
A Distant Melody by Sarah Sundin. It’s a WWII romance and the main guy is a B-17 pilot who gets injured during a bombing run and loses an arm and it’s incredible
Yuki Sohma’s asthma attack in the Fruits Basket manga
There’s a lot of good whump in the book series Reviver by Seth Patrick
Roger in Outlander books 4 and 5 (the beating and sold into slavery and then the hanging)
The Sword of Truth series by Terry Goodkind
The following Stargate books: Four Dragons, The Barque of Heaven, and Hostile Ground
The Ranger’s Apprentice series
Love Finds You in Silver City, Idaho. The main character gets whumped a lot in it and I love it
Games:
Final Fantasy VII, IX, X are all amazing and whumpy.
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i saw in the tags of that timeless ask you got last night, that you wanted someone to ask h50 for that questions thing. i don't know what h50, is but consider this your friendly neighbourhood anon asking!
thankyou nonny!
tbh, i only wanted someone to ask purely so i could hit @chloeswans with the mcrollins feels 😂😈😘
note: i’ve only ever been a casual “watch every ep once and then never again” fan until recently, and i’m only on 3x15 of my rewatch, so some of these answers are likely to change.
MY FAVORITE EPISODE the pilot will always hold a special place in my heart…. i just wish catherine was in every episode. i love that girl with my whole heart. the 18 texts i sent kers about 3x11 over the weekend say that ep is a very close second tho 😂
MY LEAST FAVORITE EPISODE any without catherine 😂
MY FAVORITE ARC steve and catherine’s relationship.
MY LEASE FAVORITE ARC bringing catherine back every season and rubbing our faces in the fact that steve was going to propose and she would have said yes. damnit bring her back full time, kers and i have their whole wedding planned! 😭😭😭
MY FAVORITE SHIP mcrollins, also kono x adam, but mcrollins.
MY FAVORITE CHARACTER catherine.
MY FAVORITE SEASON four.
MY LEAST FAVORITE six.
WHO I WISH WOULD HAVE STAYED TILL THE END oh, so many! catherine, for sure! also, max, kono, chin, lori!
WHO I WISH WOULD HAVE LEFT THE SHOW SOONER idk, i don’t think there are any.
WHO I THINK IS THE MOST CHEATED CHARACTER catherine.
WHO GOT MORE SCREEN TIME THAN THEY MAYBE DEFINITELY SHOULD wo fat - i didn’t like how they dragged that story out so much. i don’t remember exactly how it finished (or even if it has tbh - see the note ^), but so far it’s just too much. just put it to bed and let mcgarrett move on!
WHAT DREW ME TO IT my dad. it’s one of the shows i’d seen a few eps of here and there when he had it on TV and i thought “oh that looks good, i might watch that.”
WHAT KEPT ME WATCHING my idiot child, steve mcgarrett. and catherine. always catherine.
IF I WOULD RECOMMEND IT oh hell yeah! go watch hawaii five-0 and join me in the sea of mcrollins feels!
send me a show
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