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sounknownvoid · 7 months

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Dean is the ghost sis in s2:"Playthings"

Something just occurred to me in my current anti-dean haze- coz- i-watched-s9-s13- again....

I honest to god tnink s2-"playthings" is foreshadowing..... about dean and what HE DOES BECOME...n what sam does to counter...

Basically, similar to the ghost-sister, he's the older brother that cant let sam go....and like the old woman who sacrifices herself to save her family n the world to stop her sister - sam knows exactly what dean is like and what experiencing dean's "love" for sam will do to himself coz he knows first hand how abusive dean can be,how aggressive,violent,obsessive he is....even before/without the moc ...

In addition to his own co-dependency n love for his brother, its also possibly one of the main reasons he stayed with dean - to ensure his violent, abusive brother's attentions were (mostly) trained on him as much as possible (or the monster hunting) n kept trying to influence him for the better.... he was the only one who could, after all - everyone else was either trying to use dean for their own ends (john, crowley or zacchariah or even chuck for his 'narrative' etc) or too smitten (cas,charlie,benny) by him so ended up only enabling him ....

sam was the only one who knew dean, loved him enough to stay with him n try to influence him for the better n knew what he was giving up...n on some level dean knew it and let him n couldnt let his only means of salvation go....hence his eternal guilt too...a twisted love that hurts em both coz neither can move forward - a true 'ouroboros' devouring them both...

Ultimately, sam staying with dean all his life is essentially similar to what the old-lady's actions are when she says "yes" to her sister n agrees to play with her all her after-life....

n this also maybe explains why sam seems to go "backwards" from his more "healthier" behaviours at the start n worsens in later seasons....its stockholm syndrome or abuse wearing him down after 200-years or love or despair as he keeps choosing dean - over n over through all his awfulness so he could save the world, people and dean - god, the strength - the sheer fucken STRENGTH OF WILL & CHARACTER to keep that up with full commitment to his brother all his life ... jesus i've made myself cry now .... need to go touch grass... back in a few days!...:)...

#supernatural #sam winchester #oh sam #spn #spn brainrot #sam and dean #i cry over sammy all the time in spn #everything relates to spn #dean critical #Mine

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hometownrockstar · 2 months

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maybe i dont have ruan mei or huohuo or black swan to make my dot and dual dps and blade teams incredible (omg i forgot to mention i recently rebuilt my blade hes now 6309 HP, 139 speed and 78/162 cr/cd ^_^ he helped me beat moc 12) BUT. thomas stocks are gonna skyrocket by 2.2 trust. im gonna have a crazy follow-up team with E0S1 Topaz, E0S1 Ratio, and Aventurine (i want his E1 to boost this even more but i cant guarantee on getting it) and then robin will come out and im hoping she'll be a dual-dps harmony to slot in this team (for legal reasons this is only my speculation) not to mention gallagher will come out and he'll be a niche fire breaker for my dot teams no ruan mei needed

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hongism · 7 months

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Hey bestie heeeeeey~

I'm officially caught up with MOC so now I can tell you my feelings~

So, first of all, how dare you? There's no reason for the emotional whiplash I experienced reading this monstrosity (positive with all the love and respect in the world i promise) yet here i am... a further damaged woman lmfao

But forreal though, you have a great ability to pull emotions out of your readers and thats just amazing in my eyes, especially as a fellow writer myself :') theres nothing I love more than making the ppl who read my own fics suffer emotionally so congrats to you!

I love how you write everyone in the story, they are so incredibly flawed and fucked up and human that it just makes me shed a tear. Thats why MC frustrates the HELL out of me, even though I adore her. Her flaws make my ass itch but all i want for her is to heal and be happy in the end (same with the others! I be wanting to punch the shit outta them sometimes 😭)

ESPECIALLY Hongjoong cause my guy is just unhinged but i love his character the most honestly because unhinged is hot to me. Im still kicking my feet and twirling my hair lmao

The relationships are so real and just... messy. Messy messy in the best way. But i just have to cheer them all on.

That chapter when mc and yeosang banged I was quite literally going bonkers like HELLO?????????????? I didnt expect that but now i want more of it cause their dynamic (especially when it comes to wooyoung) is so juicy

MC is such a tragic character and I feel for her the most. I love how we started off thinking Jisung was this great person but turns out that hes a fucking lunatic. You, Caly literally manipulated us into thinking so, like how Jisung manipulated MC and idk if that was intentional or not but it was brilliant. And Hyunwoo turning out to be like *that* was a punch in the gut. MC being betrayed by the ppl she cared for so much makes her question everything on the crew, especially Hongjoong and that's why I cant be too frustrated with her lol

I dont want this ask to be so long cause i can go in about every little detail 😭 but youve dont such an amazing job. The world building is beautiful, and i dont rly read a lot of scifi like fictions set in space, but when i first got into ateez the first thing i thought of were pirates / space pirates and i even started my own fic with that premise bc i cant help myself but be self indulgent trash so 🤷🏼‍♀️ but thats beside the point

I cant wait to read more of this masterpiece and see how things go. I want everyone to be happy cause you are putting them through the fucking ringer 😭😭😭 please go easy on them I cant take more of this 😭😭😭😭

hehe emotional whiplash is my specialty!!! i too am very much damaged after writing moc. and the damage will continue. for the good of the plot!!!

i'm so touched you think so, i really love evoking emotion out of the reader in my works and i'm glad that im effective in doing so <3 one of my goals from the start of writing moc was to create an mc who isn't always likable or enjoyable to read bc i find those sorts of stories unrealistic and sometimes boring, because even tho the setting is very much not real, having characters who do feel real has always been huge to me! i love creating characters who have peaks and valleys, who grow and stumble along the way, and to really show a journey of growth!! hongjoong is just. pure insanity at its finest LOL he's gonna take a lot to fix but we'll see!

i honestly had way too much fun writing that chapter too, i love love looooooove a good hatefuck and it was just too tempting to NOT do >.<

it was fully intentional to sort of bring the readers in on the manipulation yes hehe! i like playing my cards very close to my chest and not giving anything away until the absolute last second i can!!! i think you hit on something lots of people who want her to just give into hongjoong forget - she's experienced so much betrayal from the people she trusted most and that does really stick in the brain and cause lasting trauma, and our poor mc is deeply traumatized by many things that have happened to her! it only makes sense for her to be retaliating and distrustful of those around her in these circumstances!!

thank you so much for enjoying everything so far and for all the lovely compliments they really mean so much to me i cherish them a lot 🥹🥹❤️❤️

#caly answer #moc: spoilers

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autistichwsamerica · 2 years

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To add on to the reason why him being canonically mixed is actually like A Big Thing:

I cant remember if It was stated in the anime but in his character bio he is ALWAYS stated to be part Arabic. So a good part of him is Mideastern, not to mention hes closest to (northern) Africa and probably shares some ancestry from there too (at least from a historical standpoint). He also has a darker complexion which unfortunately gets whitewashed a lot especially by Studio Dean (same people that made Seychelles white).

Because of these things I think he gets shoved a lot into that "violent moc" stereotype even in canon but almost 99% of the time by the fandom.

As an American I cant speak a lot about this from a personal note but I know that from a historical standpoint and what actually southern Italians have said is that people from S. Italy tend to get discriminate against by northern Italians. Also Im pretty sure Italians werent considered "white" until like the 1950s (at least here in America).

Theres also that weird racist thing where people in this fandom are OBSESSED with the M*fia. Like dont even get me started on how racist that actually is. Than again this is the same fandom that likes to romanticize WW2 and nazisim occassionally so..

Also people on tumblr just hate/mock italians in general for some reason and that just confuses me so much like ???

This man is also like...super fucking poor too, so add some classism to it as well while we're (I'm) at it lol. He's also an immigrant in multiple ways and multiple times throughout history so theres some xenophobia to boot

please direct any and all future hate anons over to @rosethreeart please and thank you. :)

Sorry this man gets so much hate for no reason and it makes me sad hes such a sad little meow meow who deserves to be held gently </3

Yeah, it's literally stated in the manga that Romano is mixed. I know a lot of the fandom doesn't read the manga, but they really, really should. (Also, didn't Studio Deen whitewash Egypt as well, or am I misremembering?)

While Romano has legitimate reasons to have a temper, it shouldn't be overlooked that he does something get boxed into the "angry moc" trope. But yeah, it's way worse in the fandom.

Yeah, I've heard southern Italians say that, too. And the 1950s lines up with what I've read.

God, I've noticed that too. Like, what is this fandom's obsession with the m*fia. And it's always so glamorized? But yeah, given some of the other stuff this fandom glamorizes, maybe I shouldn't be too surprised.

Yeah, I've noticed that. It's not racism since Italians have been considered white since the 1950s, but anti-Italian sentiment is still not...good.

Exactly! Classism factors into the fandom's treatment of Romano, as does being anti-immigrant/xenophobic.

I'll keep that in mind, thank you!

And yes, Romano deserves so much better from this fandom.

#answers #hws romano #hws south italy #lovino vargas #go-to-rose3art #racism #fandom racism #fandom classism #fandom xenophobia

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wormytoast · 1 month

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cant believe i caved and leveled up my qingque and that was all i needed to get the 3rd star on the 2.0.1 moc 9 💀

literally the only reason i wasnt able to clear it in 20 cycles was cuz i had to put my silver wolf on the second half (since i didnt have a fucking quantum dps) which meant i had to use another debuffer in first half for my ratio, which i dont fucking have (i tried to use luka with pearls before LMAO) but now that i actually have a quantum dps i could put my silver wolf back on the first team and then go hypercarry qingque 🤓

my build for her was so stupid tho LMFAO cuz its 2pc musketeer/prisoner + takiyan and because i wasnt using jing yuan i pit his sig lc on her LOLL

only 60% crit rate tho 😭 so i couldnt proq takiyan's buff for basics

#hsr

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grapecaseschoices · 5 years

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Why does this fandom always have to drag black characters into things to make their points?

#to delete #genuine question #i have been biting my tongue forever but yall continue to do this and i just #need to rant #and i want to know #like am i the only one who sees this?#actually no that's not true bc remember when people were coming for moc / ignoring moc bc they werent getting their wlw rep?#like #like yall cant WAIT to spit out griffin's name the second people sniff at beckett (even though yall are REPEATEDLY given proof that there is #nothing to stand on #you still whine about griffin's diamond count or other stuff [not gonna mention bc i hate vaguing and this is kinda specific]#)#or my favorite im happy for this moc character BUT etc etc etc #like never once did i go - when anabelle was getting more shit than luke - oh im happy this white woman is getting focus BUT like #it comes off so backhanded #like i get some of you mean it as i want attention for my li TOO but a lot of you just sound like 'why is this character getting all this #focus' and not mine #and lastly the reason for this frustration #'i'm tired of seeing black and white mc/lis'#bih are you NEW #like what the fuck #black lis being 'common' is a new thing and that's because we demanded it #like you literally can make your point without acting black lis / mcs are the same level of white lis and mcs #remember that one book where pb had fifty shades of white mc?#maybe i'm complaining over nada #but its just like yall can never make your point without taking a jab #why cant you just say i want more rep for my people #you're tired of seeing black lis and mcs okay #well sorry i'd like to actually see them in books and see them become characters and see them get appreciation in a fandom that loves to #shit on them

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autisticandroids · 3 years

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hey so you know how you said a while back that cas doesnt really have a moc/demon dean or soulless Sam equivalent but if he did he would act the same bc hes horny and loves dean?? I agree and he would just do it WAY more unabashedly. my question is, in the version of spn where the writers are smarter AND more homophobic, how would they justify cas's actions? bc they cant use the cloak of humanity bc cas doesnt give a FUCK about humanity. so what would they do

okay the thing is that cas doesn't have a demon dean/soulless sam style arc because it wouldn't... do anything? the thing about cas is that he doesn't have inhibitions in the traditional sense. like he doesn't... feel the eyes of god or society watching him.

i had a long conversation with @pietacastiel the other day about whether cas has the capacity for "should" - and he really just... doesn't. there are two things that stand in for "should" for cas - one, "if i do this, [insert other person (usually dean but not always)] will like me," and two, "[insert person who i trust and obey] has told me to do this, and i will obey their command blindly because i am a good boy."

like, basically, number one is an essentially machiavellian calculation. he's trying to be someone that other people want around, so he makes himself useful to them or enjoyable to be around or likeable or what have you. it's entirely self-serving and probably wouldn't change if you took away his inhibitions or his empathy or his conscience or whatever.

number two is like... it's too intellectual to count as inhibitions, exactly - it's explicit rules that he has set down for himself, without internalizing. to give an example, cas knows that he's not supposed to watch porn in a room full of dudes, and he's not supposed to talk about it, but he will never understand WHY those things are true. he will just obey those commands.

in terms of other ethical behavior that cas demonstrates... the thing about cas is that he's just a nice person? he's highly empathetic, he likes to make other people happy, he likes to be friends, he's a sweetheart. he genuinely wants the best for people. he particularly wants the best for his nearest and dearest. this is what's going on when he heals babies, or decides that he's not gonna kill kelly, or sacrifices his life for dean. he is fundamentally doing what he wants. he wants dean to be alive more than he wants to not be dead, you know?

this is actually one of the things that makes cas so dangerous: empathy is fickle. if the only thing that's standing between you and murdering somebody is you liking that somebody and wanting to be their friend, you might murder them once they piss you off. or once something comes up that makes them being dead more valuable to you than you being their friend. and this is why cas is kind of a terrible person! this is why he's constantly doing war crimes. he doesn't really have a system of ethics.

now, here's the thing: cas does carry around a lot of guilt, but it's deeply ineffectual. it doesn't really change his behavior towards other people. it only really does two things: first of all, it convinces him that other people hate him and don't want him around. this intensifies his desperate need to be liked, and therefore his trying to be liked, but isn't the root of it. second of all, it makes him punish himself, stuff like trying to stay in purgatory.

now, if we did a demon dean/soulless sam situation on cas... what would that look like?

well, he would certainly lose all that guilt he's carrying around, but how would that affect his behavior? the main two effects, i think, would be to make him more confident and therefore bolder in terms of trying to be liked, and make him stop punishing himself/deciding that he deserves bad things.

the confidence boost might lead to him, say, throwing himself at dean a bit more than he does, but i don't think the change would be radical. i think it would just be kicked up a notch. but it's an issue of rational judgement more than inhibitions so i think he would stay basically the same. now, cas' judgement isn't the best, and in the context of relationships at least, if nowhere else, his guilt complex does semi-effectively combat his natural tendency towards total overconfidence, so it might have some serious effect, but i still argue it's rather a matter of degrees.

and him not punishing himself so much might lead to him doing things like getting more mad when dean treats him poorly, but not that much more, because fundamentally the reason cas doesn't get mad when dean treats him badly isn't because he thinks he deserves it - he does think that, but mostly he's just scared that if he gets mad or sets boundaries dean won't like him anymore. again, it's a matter of judgement. he's probably less scared that dean won't like him anymore if he sets boundaries because the elimination of the guilt complex makes him less convinced that everyone hates him, but the anxiety is still there - it's just less intense.

in terms of cas' other sources of ethics and inhibitions - wanting to be liked, obedience, empathy - these would be affected differently if he was like soulless sam and if he was like demon dean.

if cas lost his inhibitions the way soulless sam did... he wouldn't change that much, at least in terms of his personal relationships. he would lose his capacity for empathy, which means that he would be more likely to be a dick to randos on the street, or commit war crimes, but it wouldn't really change how he conducts his relationships, because the inhibitions he holds in relationships are intellectual, they're a matter of judgement anyhow. honestly i think he might still, for example, happily die for dean, if we're arguing that soullessness comes from a lack of empathy or conscience rather than a lack of all emotion, because his desire for dean to be alive is entirely selfish. he likes the world more with dean in it and that's that. so i think soulless cas would be more likely to be a dick behind the scenes - maybe pull some godstiel arc ass shit again - but it wouldn't necessarily change his treatment of those closest to him that much.

now, a demon dean style loss of inhibitions would look different, because demon dean's basic emotions weren't dampened - he was made more selfish and hedonistic and rebellious, and didn't care about other people. interestingly, demon dean didn't seem to lose his capacity for empathy - remember in black when he punched that guy who was abusive to that girl? he didn't do that because it was the right thing to do - he did it because it felt good, because he empathized with her situation and it gave him a rush to get her out of it. so a demonized cas' empathy is intact. but his "shoulds" - those are all out of whack. he's actively rebelling against them. obviously he would simply no longer obey the ones that are like, "follow this rule and you will never know why." but he would also stop trying to be liked. i think demon cas might in fact tell dean that he's been in love with him for years - while screaming an itemized list of every fucked up thing dean has ever done to cas in his face, and telling him to never speak to him again. hell, we've seen cas throw a temper tantrum like this before - "you're not my family, dean, i have no family" in the man who knew to much. demon cas would be like that except without it then causing him to have an immediate mental breakdown.

i would argue, however, that cas has had his own loss of inhibitions comparable to demon dean and soulless sam - crazy cas. it even follows the alliteration pattern, heh. this is because cas' inhibitions are far more in his brain than his heart, and to get rid of them you need to impair his judgement, not fuck with his feelings. like, his shoulds are entirely intellectual. i want to be liked, therefore i should do this, which will effectively cause other people to like me. i want to be a good boy for god/dean, therefore i will obey this rule they gave me. if you fuck with cas' judgement, you fuck with those inhibitions. so arguably crazy cas is cas' equivalent to demon dean and soulless sam.

anyway, to answer your question, i feel like soulless cas wouldn't necessarily need a cover, like, he might, oh, i don't know, covertly arrange more opportunities to be alone with dean or stuff like that, but he's not going to try and sleep with him because he still has most of his inhibitions in tact. demon cas they might have to admit is in love with dean and then kill, because i think demon cas would probably kiss dean and then punch him and leave. you know. and crazy cas we saw in canon.

#spn #asks #anonymous

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banghwa · 3 years

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ok yeah but im with u abt the buff yoongi thing, like the reason i think its weird is cuz its like. u do realize people can be hot and attractive without being like.... muscular right. like u do realize that you can just say "yoongi is looking really good" without being like WOW SO BUFF! MUSCLES! TITS! like he's just... he looks good. these things should not be linked. idk if im explaining this right?

exactly !!! 😭 he looks "built" now because he practically couldnt move before like he's just chilling being healthy and happy !! and thats what makes him attractive i think in his own little grumpy old man way but ppl on here act like u cant find a moc attractive unless u exageratedly objectify him lol

#its weird!#basket-of-epiphanies #💌

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kurozu501 · 3 years

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intellectually, i understand that how someone reacted to tlj depends on how they felt about the force awakens. if, like me, you enjoyed tfa and were excited to see that story continue and develop, then you were upset. but if you didn’t, then seeing the sequel just ignore everything the first movie set up and fart around trying to be ~subversive~ by treating its moc leads like shit, having its female lead’s development revolve around a guy who tortured her, giving leia literally nothing, and having luke be a bitter old coward, might have seemed cool, i guess? im trying, but i cant really be unbiased here tbh.

i guess, if you didnt give two shits about the first film then you might have seen all that stuff as interesting and different and ooh look im subverting expectations, etc, etc. but im still baffled when i see people who otherwise seem to have really good media insights praise it. literally the entire reason the sequel trilogy is bad is bc tlj destroyed it but yeah, uh, instead of being a mentor to rey luke turned out to be a guy who thought sitting around on an island doing nothing while his sister and brother-in-law were being killed by neo-nazi’s was the right thing to do, wow, subversive.

#i also hate how people use bigots whining about sjw's to brand everyone who criticizes this movie as right wing #no i hate it bc it treats finn like shit actually. the moment rose tased him and that was played as a joke i knew this film was fucked #rey is hardly even the same character but finn was still mostly recognizable as finn and that film hated him #like really hated him. fuck off rian finn isnt a coward and he proved his bravery in the first film you refused to watch

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lucidpantone · 3 years

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It's seems like balloon squad is done filming for today...

Plot spoiler (after the cut). TW: Racial Bias

modified anon: How is it confirmed? Extras saw it happening? Do you think that's why in wtfock s4 (rip) they had Yasmina talking about her brother and friends smoking weed? I hope they do, get it boys, roll that one, don't let racists like 🌵 discriminate MOC because they smoke but keeping quiet when white boys do the same. I dunno but I'm actually excited for this rivalry between the boys, if Jens catches some hands I will close my eyes to that, sometimes violence is needed and Jens could actually use a punch or two 🙃

similar anon: Oh boy that doesn’t sound good. Let me guess, our pocs are being treated like garbage again?!

You know how we kept saying we want wtFOCK to address some of the racially charged topics in s4? Well they are definitely going there in S5. I have so many feelings right now because in a way I want them to explore and talk about racial bias and profiling against men of color but latterly I don't trust wtfock and their writing for shit to explore this topic without fucking up the entire season. So here is some context the fight between the broers & 🎈 squad is because Aaron goes up to Elias to ask to buy some weed. Here is where I cant get a strait confirmation but what is making me nervous. I am getting two opposing leaks one is that the reason Aaron ask to buy some weed from Elias is because Elias had sold some weed to him before implying that he deals. However, listen to this exact conversation from s4 here. I am getting a deeper connect saying no Elias isn’t a dealer its an elaboration on the S4 talk which is just cause you sell some weed to your friends doesnt immediately mean you deal weed and implying that a brown boy who sells weed to his friends is just doing his friends a solid. Thinking anything more then that is demonstrating racial bias. Thats it, no one is dealing. Also I was told that this profiling and bias is something that Nora’s contributed to in the writing because her family has experienced this type of profiling. Maybe not the weed part but people assuming something about men of color. She does talk about this in an interview about her brother being stopped by cops for no reason so I do believe this is somewhat influenced by Nora’s experiences. HOWEVER, if we hadn’t had s4 happen I could read these plot points and be like okay I get what they are trying to say here about racial bias but S4 did happen and Kato’s whole arc was literally implying that Moyo was a pothead, dealer, and criminal without any context or actual recognition of racism. These plot points have now been transferred to Aaron and they are being frame similarly but from my understanding they are adding more nuance. As in of course Aaron was wrong to assume Elias is a dealer because he hooked him up with some green a couple of times. There is also a plot where Aaron being the idiot he is invited by Elias to an event I guess to make amends for the original falling out/fight and Aaron offends Elias concerning Islam and alcohol intake. Once again I don't have an issue with these plot points if wtfock wasnt writing them because their writing concerning anything racially or religiously charged is written like crap and always comes off as strait up racism/ignorance instead of a study on how everyone can demonstrate bias or lack education. I don't know guys am so weary now...... I got told by a deep connected, “You guys said you wanted to get more context and the writing to actually call things either racist or religiously ignorance. So this is that. They are doing their best” and once again I would feel better if it wasnt coming from wtFOCK’s writing team but since it is I just expect them to fuck everything up again. Maybe am being pessimistic but ughhhh. I will say tho, one thing the balloon squad does have an entire arc as a group so they arent just Even’s friend in this remake their plot is very expansive in s5. Covering a few plot points.

#lucidpantone anons #wtfock spoilers #major plot spoilers please read with caution #am praying to all the holy gods they don't F--K this up

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godstiel-coded · 3 years

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Semi-coherent Dean-centric rambles

Okay so a lot of this is non sensical, tangential, and a lot is copy n pasted from my rants in hell so please join me in partaking in shrimp emotions in this dennys

Okay so first off I got thinking abt post purgatory 1.0 bc of a post you can see if you scroll a bit and I mean like its so entirely possible that Cas sat beside Dean while he slept on the ground and kept a hand on him while he slept fitfully (dean couldnt be On him that'd impede cas' defense if monsters arrived) and he probably couldn't stand the thought of sleeping in his dingy motel woth Cas' hand resting on his shoulder as he sots on the other side of the bed, deep in thought because Sammys a smart kid he'd know that Dean wouldn't let anyone else do that he'd know that Dean hadn't slept that well in years like??? He would feel vulnerable and therefore take it out on Cas but Cas would be confused y'know in Heaven he was a soldier so you watch over those who cant fight (none of them sleep but surely theyve been injured) so to him its no big deal of course if it was someone else he'd sit across the room but he hears Deans yearning as prayer and knows the tether to something familiar helps him sleep so of course he would sit beside him while he slept as he always did in purgatory!!

And like yknow from there I cant help thing about how so much of Destiel is "of course" Like its Such a destiel phrase and I can't stop thinking about it because like it almost seems like "I need you to take me for granted so at least I know I belong by your side" vibes. As long as its "of course" that means its recognised as intrinsic as necessary as expected not something they can discard Aaaaa!! *of course* I would do anything for you is permission to expect anything to be done its its this acknowledgement that they don't need to talk about it because the answer is always yes!!

Yknow *of course* cas woukd watch dean sleep after purgatory because thats what they do thats what they had been doing but Dean he'd feel so damn Exposed like anyone could see it on his face that he doesn't have an Excuse now he's topside but Cas he doesn't need an excuse because *of course* he would wait patiently for dean to wake because dean needs his sleep and cas needs dean on the top of his game and dean hates to sleep alone anyways what reason does he have to Not like obviously there is something he can do that is painless thst is easy that comforts and lulls Dean and ensures he is resting deeply (relative) and safely like Cas would watch the world burn for Dean *of course* he would sit on his shitty motel bed, calm and still, hand resting on Dean's shoulder so that the warmth can soothe his subconscious. A few hours is nothing to Cas nothing at all why would he not why would he expect such a strong rejection after everything they've been through this seems like an "of course" to him and he knows Dean he knows ot would help him sleep and Dean knows it too but be knows that if it was anyone else it'd hardly make a difference so he feels vulnerable aaah okay okay I'm talking myself on circles

And yknow what *of course* Dean would grieve like a widow for Cas because Cas deserves to not be forgotten not when no one else even knows him not when theyre the only ones who Can remember him except Sam is pretty much okay but Dean is drowning in the sorrow and Cas will never know that!! Cas will think Dean pushed through it like everything else and why would Dean tell him because *of course* he must know, Cas seems to know everything about him how could he ever think Dean would be okay without him

So naturally, *of course* Dean prays every night and *of course* Cas listens to every word because they have intricate gay rituals and all hell seems to break loose (sometimes literally) the more they deviate from them!!

It just breaks me inside because Mr. Repression and misery himself loves Cas like its the only viable option and even when he panics and rejects him or shuts down *of course* its not really how he feels and Cas loves Dean like he's the only thing worth loving (minus his son) because *of course* he is and Dean cant fathom that because hes one of trillions of humans and aaaahhhh what better success story could there have been than for Dean to learn not o lt that Cas loves him but to see in himself what Cas does and yeah we get a little bit of that in 15x19 but he deserved to Live that Truth with Cas right there beside him

And yknow through all of this its Sam who he's known for being most codependent with and that makes sense because Dean picks Sam first priority because he doesn't know who he is without being Sams Mommy big brother and he mourns Cas like That because without Cas he doesn't know who he wants to be and the MOC lecture about how when Dean destroys all the world Cas will be the one left to watch yknow the past and present have always been Sam but in the future he dares to hope for Sam is safe and sound marrying someone or something, living the life he wants but not unreachable and Cas is the one by his side so yeah he has to choose Sam bc Sam is the basis of who he thinks he is and he just simply can't give up on that part of himself or lose Sam and live knowing he failed him but losing Cas hits like a bag of bricks because he loses his best friend and feels he fails him but he also loses his hope for who he could be the people they could be together the life he craves when he dares to hope for the light at the end of the long series of progressively larger guns the tunnel

He deserved a success story damn it and what bigger success could there be than Dean learning that someone could choose to love him flaws and all I mean from 15x18 to 15x19 we saw Cas words hit home and he finally said he Is more than daddys blunt instrument and he said it to the one who created his fate and thats bc Cas like imagine what could come of a few years to decompress and to *live* the life they earned the life they could build together

They deserved it. We deserved it.

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did u know that i went into moc while i was a new to them but i somehow still dont stan them bcs ive been out of kpop for awhile so yea basically not knowing well them enough that i cant differentiate between 2ho and i was so annoyed at myself not knowing the difference that i needed to watch their content and i basically stanned them so thank you bcs moc partly the reason why i want to get to know ateez AND THEIR LORE AIBXHSHS idk I just want to tell u have a great day ahead caly <333

omg 😭😭 this is so fun i love this it's fun how many people read my story without really knowing ateez that's such a huge compliment to me like wow TAHNK YOUUUU 😭😭 i love that you being annoyed at yourself is what led you to watch their content like LDKSFJSLDKF real. so real. that's big me energy right there!!! have a great day kisses <333

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They are filming ep15 right now (Cas and Jack are working alone on a case) and the fact that Misha will miss one more ep due to his contract makes me think they dropped the empty deal arc. I just cant see them playing it out when they have to set up Jack to be the God killer, Cas to fix heaven, Amara plotline in 4 eps. Plus Dabb implied that Michael!Adam would also come back to defeat God in some form. Thoughts?

hmmm...

*does math in my head* *admits this is dangerous*

So we know that Misha is scheduled to be in 15 episodes this season, leaving five he will not appear in. So far, he has not been in 15.04, 05, and 10. Of the remaining unaired episodes (including the ones he’s already filmed, but haven’t aired yet), that leaves two more that he won’t be in.

And yeah, I really don’t think there’s time to explore the full weight of that deal, especially given that the entire cosmic situation has shifted since he made it. I mean, even the fundamental REASON Cas made it was so Jack would not end up in the Empty. And then Jack... ended up... in the Empty... Kind of a dick move for the Shadow to still try and cash in on that deal, right?

I just think it’s more a factor of them having committed to end the series at the end of s15 that led to the reframing of the deal, you know? If they had intended to go on for a s16, I think it would’ve been heavily dealt with in s15, or even in the back half of s14, but instead things needed to happen to accelerate dusting AU!Michael off the table to make room from Chuck to get all uppity with the story. :’D

They could bring it up as a potential way for Dean and Cas to deal with the rest of their communication issues. Like Cas could tell Dean about the deal, and Dean react to it with a Normal Amount of upset, because it IS reasonable to be upset to learn your best friend literally sold his own happiness in exchange for what he thought would make you happy, you know? Worst Gift of the Magi AU ever. All Dean wants is for Cas to be happy, but he’s willing to trade “enjoying that in a peaceful, not world ending life” and stand by Cas’s side through all their battles to make that happen. All Cas wants is for Dean to be happy, and he’s literally willing to sacrifice his own happiness and life to make that happen.

I think this was at least partly delved into in 15.09, with the very real threat of Cas having taken on a Mark like the MoC, which would eventually drive Dean to a point where he would’ve had to lock Cas in a ma’lak box forever, effectively losing Cas forever. It wasn’t the Empty deal, but the Empty would’ve never been able to collect, because Cas would’ve never been happy after that, you know? But again, I personally think that deal went out the window the moment Jack burned up his own soul to kill AU!Michael. Because I don’t think the Empty ever really wanted Cas... I think the entity was biding its time until everything was ready to bring ALL of Jack to the Empty, as we saw in 14.20... There was a bigger game afoot, and we don’t entirely know what that is yet.

Is Billie’s plan really to kill Chuck? Or is she, like Death always has, pushing at the Winchesters (yes, including Jack and Cas) to do something specific with no intention of them actually DOING the thing, but knowing that Cosmic Level Nudge will set into motion an entirely different sequence of events? Because Death... can’t act directly. Billie has come closest to just saying it outright, in 12.06, and this was before she ascended to that Bigger Picture View of Creation:

Mary: How would it work?Sam: Mom?Mary: You just kill me again?Billie: Reapers don't kill people. Rules.

So many rules... and Billie is so, so good at working around those rules. Even better than OG Death was. 6.11 is still a prime example of how Death functions.

DEATH So, if you could go back, would you simply kill the little girl? No fuss, no stomping your feet?DEAN Knowing what I know now, yeah.DEATH I'm surprised to hear that. Surprised and glad.DEAN Yeah, well, don't get excited. I would have saved the nurse, okay? That's it.DEATH I think it's a little more than that. Today, you got a hard look behind the curtain. Wrecking the natural order's not quite such fun when you have to mop up the mess, is it? This is hard for you, Dean. You throw away your life because you've come to assume that it'll bounce right back into your lap. But the human soul is not a rubber ball. It's vulnerable, impermanent, but stronger than you know. And more valuable than you can imagine. So... I think you've learned something today.DEAN Want to know what I think? I think you knew that I wouldn't last a day.DEATH I have no idea what you're talking about.DEAN I lost. Fine. But at least have the balls to admit that it was rigged from the jump.DEATH Most people speak to me with more respect.DEAN I didn't mean --DEATH We're done here. It's been lovely. But now I'm going to go to hell to get your brother's soul.DEAN Why would you do that for me?DEATH I wouldn't do it for you. You and your brother keep coming back. You're an affront to the balance of the universe, and you cause disruption on a global scale.DEAN I apologize for that.DEATH But you have use. Right now, you're digging at something. The intrepid Detective. I want you to keep digging, Dean.DEAN So you're just gonna be cryptic, or...DEATH It's about the souls. You'll understand when you need to.

Just like Billie’s command to Dean about the Ma’Lak box in 14.10:

Billie: And just look at you now. Do you remember visiting my reading room? The shelves and shelves of notebooks describing the ways you might die?Dean: Yeah. Upbeat classics.Billie: Well, it's the funniest thing, but they've all been rewritten. They all end the same way now -- with the archangel Michael escaping your mind and using you as his vessel to burn down this world.Dean: All of them?Billie: All of them. Except one.

Except... ALL of those books... were wrong... even that one that said the ma’lak box solution was the thing... And I think Billie was HOPING to get that EXACT reaction from Dean We’ll Find Another Way Winchester. But if she hadn’t TOLD him about that one anomalous book of fate, Dean wouldn’t have known to even TRY. And in doing so, in attempting to build that box, his loved ones realized something was super fishy (lol I didn’t intend to make an undersea pun, but there you go) with Dean, and stepped up to support him until out of nowhere, a wildly unexpected solution presented itself. BECAUSE Dean drew strength to keep Michael contained beyond the original prophesied ends... Because Billie “interfered.”

I don’t think Death actually KNOWS what will happen after she shakes up reality, you know? She just knows where to apply pressure in order to force a rewrite of destiny. This was also the entire point of 13.19-- the things you CAN change, versus the things you can’t. And how to give just the right nudge to set those changes in motion.

Well, that went off on a tangent... >.>

Point is, I don’t know for sure that Jack will end up as a God Killer (I mean even in a practical sense, the ONE THING the CW has ever said was that they were not allowed to kill God... I assume that hasn’t changed and am basing my own personal expectations accordingly...). So I’m thinking that whatever the final plan will look like... we haven’t seen it yet. Okay, now back to the point... Cas’s Deal with the Empty.

So regardless of the why (because I try to avoid using a doylist rationale like Misha’s contract or the remaining number of episodes in order to justify narrative choices, because no matter how you slice it, that’s Bad Science right there...), I don’t really see the Empty deal as a threat to Cas anymore. Unless Cas is destined for a tragic end and will be sucked into the empty in the series finale-- which, again, would mean that DEAN would also never be able to be happy, because it’s been explicitly established in text that Dean can’t be happy without Cas, and again, I don’t think the series CAN have a tragic ending, so it’s so unlikely I’m not even bothering to consider it. Except... Cas might not know that because of everything else, his own happiness won’t spell his doom, you know? Which leaves some interesting possibilities on the table for really cool CHARACTER stuff instead. Cas’s fear of finishing that conversation with Dean that Dean’s Purgatory prayer began, for example... because heck that’s treading really dangerously close to words that could make Cas happy... And could be holding him back from continuing that dialogue now, at least for a few more episodes of tension between them.

They may just bring it up again as a WTF Cas? How could you not tell me? moment, just to demonstrate that Cas and Dean truly HAVE resolved their interpersonal conflicts, by having Jack confirm that the deal is null and void because of his arrangement working with Billie and the Shadow now. Or even Cas himself already knowing the deal has been nullified when it’s mentioned in conversation, allowing them to finally have a conversation about what would make them happy, using Cas’s continued existence as a prime factor in Dean’s happiness, and Dean wanting him to stay to be a prime factor in Castiel’s happiness... I think this could be a really interesting way to use the fact that the deal had existed at all could spark that revelation, you know?

But again, all of this is just theory at this point. I could be 100% wrong about all of this. But as you said, with only 9 episodes left (and two of them theoretically not even including Cas... and heck they could do a speed run through the Empty for one of those episodes too... I have no idea what they have planned), I don’t think it’s going to be a long, drawn-out ordeal, you know? They’ve refocused all of the character arcs back into the main story now, and they’re all converging on what will eventually be the series finale, not flinging them all out in opposite directions to generate drama and angst, you know? Different point in the story, different options available to wrap up open threads.

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