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About the templar Desmond thing, imagine from Isu bs Ezio and Altaïr are transported to the same time and Ezio Knows about Desmond (being from the future and all) and he's like, extremely surprised Pikachu face when he learns Desmond is a templar (or not completely on the Assassin's side)

Here's a link to the Templar!Desmond idea.

I’m adding Ratonhnhaké:ton to this one just because I want to XD

Okay, so… for this one, we’ll have to set up the three’s time travel bs first before we do anything.

Let’s say the Apple resonated with Desmond and that’s the reason they got yanked into another time period.

Let’s focus on Altaïr for a moment. The earliest we can yank out Altaïr is when he grabbed the Apple after Al Mualim’s death but that’s too much of a ‘charged’ point in his life. My proposal is that we either yank him out when he recovered the Apple from Abbas as seen in AC Revelations or when he used the Apple to calm the civilians in AC Bloodlines. I would suggest we yank him out after he recovered the Apple from Abbas because it’s just too tempting for me to yank him out just after he says “Have you anything to teach us? Or will you lead us all to ruin?”

Next is Ratonhnhaké:ton. The only time we are sure that Ratonhnhaké:ton handled an Apple is during the time George Washington showed it to him. We can, of course, yank the Ratonhnhaké:ton from the King Washington DLC but I would suggest we yank him just as he was about to throw the Apple into the sea.

For Ezio. Any time between AC2 to AC Brotherhood that he had the Apple would be possible. AC Revelations would only work if we yanked out Ezio once he got Altaïr’s Apple in Masyaf. Since Ezio is meant to know who Desmond is supposed to be, we’ll take out AC2 in the equation, leaving us with AC Brotherhood and AC Revelations. My suggestion would be during the time Ezio left the Apple in the Colosseum Vault because this is after the whole Borgia feud and Revelations!Ezio needs a break.

This does mean that Ezio would be in his late-40s to early-50s compared to the three who would be in their mid-20s. Of course, we can make Altaïr around the same age as well since we know he has the Apple until his death. Ratonhnhaké:ton would be hard to do since we have no confirmation if he touched any other Apple after Washington. Of course, we can just make use of our fanfic-wand-waving for that little bit and just add a scene of Ratonhnhaké:ton touching an Apple, perhaps even the Apple that Arno got in contact with? Personally, I would suggest we keep their current age because this gives us an excuse for Ezio to get a headache because he has to deal with an Altaïr who is still just learning how to be a team player and not be an asshole as well as be what a mentor should be to Ratonhnhaké:ton instead of whatever half-assed judgment thing Achilles did. Also, he can be an ACTUAL POSITIVE FATHER FIGURE to both of them whose father figures range from dying really early (Umar), manipulative (Al Mualim), and varying degrees of disappointment (Achilles and Haytham Kenway). Ezio is also going to be tasked with teaching the two of them how to work as a team because Ratonhnhaké:ton works alone and Altaïr… is trying.

Now, let’s go over their limitations:

They will only have their memories up to that point so there won’t be any memory transferring or age regression in this setup

They get transported the way they were during that specific time. In other words, all they have are their clothes and whatever equipment they have on them.

The Apple will not be transported with them because that’s a cheat code and I want them to suffer. Instead, we will make locating the Apples their ‘main objective’ because they believe it would have an answer to why they are in that time period.

Alright, now that that’s out of the way…

Let’s talk about time periods.

The Order of the Ancients:

During the Peloponnesian War: This is pretty easy, all things considered. For one, there’s no actual Brotherhood in this time period so they would hear about Desmond and be like “Assassin? Might help?”. The complications come with Deimos. If they think Desmond is working with Deimos, they might think he’s in league with the Cult and not have a semi-stalker problem. To be fair, Desmond could just go “I DON’T KNOW WHY! I DON’T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE HELL I’M DOING HERE!” and maybe have a breakdown. Lots of awkwardness, especially from Altaïr. This one has an easy way to clear any misunderstanding.

During the end of the Ptolemaic period: Now, this one is a bit more complicated. Desmond’s going to be a free agent in this one ‘cause he doesn’t really see any reason to side with the Order of the Ancients but, on the other hand, Amunet’s loyalty to Cleopatra is a big red flag to him so he’s gonna stay away from Bayek and the others. Ezio, on the other hand, would work with them because he knows the legends of Amunet. The fact that she was one of the founders may already be lost to him but he would see her as an ally. Allying with Cleopatra would just be fine to him because it would be similar to how he was with the Medici and with Prince Suleiman. Ratonhnhaké:ton and Altaïr would definitely wave red flags because of Ratonhnhaké:ton’s past with Washington and serving a master is very similar to what happened to Altaïr and Al Mualim. In this time period, there’s a possibility that Altaïr and Ratonhnhaké:ton would break away from Ezio and work with Desmond instead (in a sense that “I have no idea what I’m doing but they’re baddies?” “That’s a good enough start for us.”) and Ezio would be left trying to find/chase them while staying in contact with Amunet. They reunite once the whole Cleopatra fiasco blows up in their faces but this is mitigated because Ezio had been working behind both Amunet and Cleopatra’s back in the first place because he knows Cleopatra is bad news. For course, by this time, Ezio learns Altaïr knew about the whole Cleopatra deal (“How do you know that?” “I read. A lot.” “He does. He’s an overachiever.” “Shut up, Desmond.”) and that’s why he left. They talked about how Altaïr and Ezio should have said something to everyone (which will be a reoccurring problem of Altaïr and Ezio because Altaïr is used to working alone and Ezio, while having recruits and allies, also spent almost half of his Assassin career alone)

During the 9th Century: This one is the most complicated of the three Order of Ancients because Altaïr would know who Ælfred is. Also… Altaïr and Ezio would have a lot of opinions on why the Hidden Ones are allying themselves with those who raid, burn and pillage the innocents. They’re too focused on the Order of the Ancients that they’ve forgotten that their blades exist to protect the people. The enemy of my enemy is my friend isn’t really going to cut it. This makes Desmond’s entire deal of being an unknown who takes down anyone who is either a member of the Order of the Ancient or a pillaging/raiding Viking more like an ally in their eyes. For this one, all the three need to do is get in contact with Desmond and let him know that he’s also working for a bad dude. Then… well… Basim and Hytham may be in for a very heated debate.

The Templar Order (Desmond Saga - let’s make this complicated. We get our trio AND their canon self in the mix.)

The 3rd Crusades: Since we’re going for Desmond planning to change the Templars from the Crusaders’ side, Altaïr would know that something is absolutely up. The events aren’t happening as he remembered them and he would definitely flag Desmond as soon as he hears of him. It would be funny if, by the end of this, Altaïr does become the mentor but it’s not timeline!Altaïr, it’s time-traveling!Altaïr instead. XD

Renaissance: For this one, we’re using the idea of a Templar civil war that happened before Ezio became an Assassin (also, we can add in some sad scenes of Ezio watching the Auditores from afar but never coming close, just making sure they’re alright). We’ll make Ezio think that this truly happened and that Desmond’s side (who he doesn’t know is Desmond yet) lost to Borgia so his idea was to kill them all immediately but Ratonhnhaké:ton would persuade him to check Desmond’s side first. Once they learn Desmond’s side wants a truce with the Assassins and to bury the hatchet, they agree to help Desmond’s side… covertly. All of these are done without them ever meeting Desmond or knowing his actual name. They only meet him maybe as the Borgia side of this civil war is at its last legs and that’s where Ezio would get his surprised pikachu face.

American Revolution: This one would be the angstiest of the three, mainly because of Ratonhnhaké:ton. Since Desmond told Haytham about Ratonhnhaké:ton early on, our Ratonhnhaké:ton would get to watch how Haytham Kenway is as a father trying to connect with his son (even calling him by his real name instead of the name Achilles gave him). Not only that, but Ratonhnhaké:ton would also see how the Colonial Brotherhood is thriving in this time period as Shay still defected but Desmond was able to stop any bloodshed before it happened, becoming a mediator between the two factions as they talked about Lisbon. Ratonhnhaké:ton would see what kind of man Achilles could have been had he not lost everything. And he would feel like he’s the one at fault, that he wasn’t enough… Ezio and Altaïr would be the ones to comfort him and be there for him because Desmond is always by Haytham’s side, making it hard for the three of them to approach him. But when they do… it would be in Ratonhnhaké:ton’s village and his mother would immediately recognize him. (this one would be more on the side of found family for the three)

The Templar Order (Nameless MCs Trilogy)

Golden Age of Piracy: This one would be complicated in the sense that the three of them wouldn’t agree to the Assassins siding with the pirates. They’d definitely make their own ‘third party’ and that’s where their paths with Desmond and Edward would cross. There’s gonna be some snark about how Desmond has a pirate under his employ but they won’t say much because Ratonhnhaké:ton would recognize his name. From there on, they’d work together with Edward being more of a freelancer. (Also, they get a ship with Ratonhnhaké:ton at the helm. Altaïr is not happy being in the sea this much.)

French Revolution: This is a very similar setup to the Renaissance as, by the time they got yanked into this time period, Desmond is already leading the moderates together with de la Serre. They don’t know it’s Desmond yet but Ratonhnhaké:ton persuades them to watch first and help out. Maybe a truce can be achieved, after all. So when de la Serre’s death is meant to happen, the three of them were there to stop it and that’s where they see Desmond for the first time. At that point, the main conflict would be to find out who tried to have de la Serre killed while keeping de la Serre’s moderate party safe. Also: Arno learns how to be an Assassin under Ezio and he, Altaïr, and Ratonhnhaké:ton start to bond because they’re of similar age. In this scenario, the promised 4 member Assassin squad will be Altaïr, Ezio, Ratonhnhaké:ton and Arno.

Industrial Revolution: Oooohhh boy. So… first things first. Ezio isn’t going to like the Rooks. They’re too… undisciplined, to say the least. HOWEVER… Ezio already has experience being a mentor sooooo… introducing Rooks 2.0 where they’re less of a gang and more of a vigilante group. ‘Course, this would take time to setup and make sure everything is in order. During that time, Starrick is converting Desmond to the Templar cause. Here’s where it gets tricky. Now, we can make Desmond actually be part of Starrick’s Templars only because Starrick made him believe the Frye twins are a lost cause. During the same time, Ezio has taken Jacob under his wing and is busy ‘reforming’ the Rooks while Evie and Altaïr are trying to find the Shroud of Eden. What about Ratonhnhaké:ton? Well… Ratonhnhaké:ton goes to the Kenway Mansion out of… sentiment shall we say? And that’s where he meets Desmond who is there for the very same reason. So… here’s the thing. Desmond has trust issues and that trust issues only got taken to new heights thanks to Lucy. Seeing Ratonhnhaké:ton in the flesh would make him absolutely suspicious that some kind of Isu bs is happening. At the same time, when Desmond trusts someone, he trusts them completely. And he trusts his ancestors because he knows them thanks to their memories. So… no matter what Starrick says, Desmond would still listen to what his ancestors have to say. Starrick would lose Desmond as soon as he gets in contact with any of his ancestors. The day Ratonhnhaké:ton and Desmond meets is the day Starrick loses Desmond.

Modern Day:

Okay, so for this one, we’re going to take the idea that Vidic got to Desmond as soon as he left the Farm and got Desmond to be loyal to him by treating him like a son. In this scenario, Altaïr, Ezio and Ratonhnhaké:ton would have their hands full just trying to get their minds wrapped around how different things are now. Of course, they would see the state of the Brotherhood and side with them. They will definitely butt heads with William Miles and this is when they will hear about Desmond Miles. Ezio would realize that Desmond Miles is his (technically, their) Desmond so they go looking for him while helping out the Brotherhood in any way they can.

By the time they do reach Desmond, Desmond would already be suffering from the Bleeding Effect more severe than Daniel Cross and he would assume they’re there because of his Bleeding Effect.

In this timeline, Desmond would be torn between remaining loyal to Vidic and the Templar cause or listening to Ezio or Altaïr (unfortunately, he doesn’t have any Animus sessions with Ratonhnhaké:ton because the only reason Ratonhnhaké:ton’s memories were accessed in the first place was that they needed to find the key and, in this case, they don’t know about the Grand Temple… yet).

Depending on how long Desmond has been with Vidic, this one has the possibility of Desmond staying with the Templars till the bitter end which… I do not want at all.

So… TL;DR: “The Creed does not order for blind loyalty” is the main reason why I think there’s really no actual reason for a “Desmond versus his ancestors” event even if Desmond is allied with the Templars. Ratonhnhaké:ton wants to find a different path that doesn’t involve this endless war between the Assassins and the Templars so he would understand Desmond’s actions. Altaïr comes from a time when the idea of Assassins versus Templars wasn’t even a thing yet as the Levantine Brotherhood took out anyone who abuses their power and do heinous crimes regardless if they are Crusaders or Saracens. They would be able to persuade Ezio to be more open-minded (since, by Ezio’s time, the Templars are primarily the bad guys). The only idea I could think of where Desmond would firmly be against his ancestors is if he is manipulated like in Vidic’s case and, even then, it wholly depends on Desmond’s feelings for his ancestors if he would continue down the path he chose.

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