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smytherines · 29 days

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I think about Owen and the Chimera surveillance network a lot, because to me it isn't a question of having a surveillance network or not. It is happening. The question is: who will control it?

The surveillance network is an arms race between Chimera, the U.S. government, and I would imagine also the Russians and the British as well. One of these entities *will* succeed, Chimera is just the furthest along. Its like the race for the atomic bomb- each superpower pursued its own nuclear weapons program simultaneously, the US (collaborating with the British) just crossed the finish line first.

Here's my argument.

The first crucial piece of the puzzle is Barb Larvernor. The first time we hear about the concept of computers making spies obsolete, it isn't from DMA/Owen. It's from Barb. In A1P5, Barb says:

"Well picture this- the world's first, large-scale, information collective and archival system... Its just an idea I've been toying around with. If it worked, we'd be able to take down syndicates by doing the detective work from the safety of our desks. It would take the guesswork out of your job, hopefully saving some lives in the process- including your own. Can you imagine if this technology existed?"

There's also this conversation between Barb and Tatiana from the interludes during One Step Ahead.

Tatiana: I need you to search for an island, the size of a compound, that can store hundreds of computing systems

Barb: Easy, I have actually already been researching locations that fit that exact criteria... see, I have been thinking of a technology that can revolutionize- found one!"

From these two exchanges, we know that at the very least Barb is working on this "information collective and archival system" for the US government to use, although she seems to still be in the research and development phase.

Now, let's move on to what we know about Chimera's system, and what Owen wants from it.

First, we have this dialogue from A1P8, of DMA outright telling Curt his plan:

*recording of Cynthia plays*

Curt: where did that come from?

BVN: a little birdie told me

DMA: that little birdie being an advanced network of information surveillance that we've been-

Curt: boring!

Then, from A2P5, we have Owen explaining the system and why he wants to control it:

Tatiana: bird? Little birdies? His scientists developing... you're after the technology

Owen: Pop goes the weasel! An advanced Nazi information surveillance network to collect and archive state secrets.

They discuss why Owen wants the land (silicon babyyy), and then:

Owen: Don't you get it? Those stores of silicon from beneath the Earth's crust will allow us to mass produce Von Nazi's technology and deploy his system on a global scale! I'd have all the world's secrets. I'd be God. Now what a world that would be, eh?

The conversation continues:

Curt: my government will never allow this

Tatiana: not even the Soviets will

Owen: not at first, no. Everybody likes to do the watching, but nobody likes to be watched

Tatiana: you can't just invade the privacy of civilians without reason or suspicion

Owen: well, I like to think we are just turning everyone into a spy, they just aren't aware of it

Moving on to A2P6, the staircase scene:

Owen: YOU STILL DON'T SEE, DO YOU, CURT? There won't be any agency to go back to, once the system is global. I'm going to single-handedly dismantle everything you've ever believed in

Then

Owen: the future is happening, Curt. And it's not going to wait for you. What use will one man be, when a box in a room can do his job in seconds, huh?

Curt: sounds boring

Owen: you're a caveman, and I've invented fire

To me, this absolutely reads as Owen being aware that somebody- be it Chimera, or the US, or the Russians- will have this surveillance network. The future is inevitable. The future is surveillance (he was soooo right), the future is computers. Curt just can't see it yet, because he doesn't know technology the way that Owen and Barb do.

Going back to "I'd have all the world's secrets. I'd be God." Makes me believe that Owen is doing this so that *he* will control the flow of information. That he will be able to protect himself against what is coming. That he will never have to be vulnerable to his secret again.

Because here's the thing: we don't know if Chimera is going to use this information to punish or harm queer people. Given that Owen believes he will be in charge of the surveillance system, I'd say at the very least he does not believe it will be.

His goal seems to be "a world without agencies, a world without spies, a world without secrets." It seems to be the destruction of spying as an institution, and undercutting the nations which make use of spies to influence global events. At no point does he say that he will expose queer people if he is in charge of the surveillance network.

But, the US government absolutely will.

The US government is already hunting down queer people, even without a fancy surveillance network. Having control over Chimera's network would only make that task easier for them. Curt's secret, the secret of any queer person in this time period, is almost certainly safer in the hands of a gay man than it would be in the hands of a bloodthirsty global superpower that is already hunting down queer people.

Finally, at the end of the show, after Cynthia says that pretty soon nerds in lab coats will be running the show, we find out that Barb is getting the resources to fully work on the technology she has been talking about the entire show:

When Curt killed Owen he did not kill the surveillance network. Not for Chimera. But also, by handing A.S.S. evidence of what Chimera was doing, he likely influenced the US government to fund Barb and make her surveillance system a reality. A surveillance system that will invariably be used to hurt people like Curt and Owen.

Its possible that Curt never takes down Chimera precisely because the US now has a surveillance system to tell them that their ex-agent, the agent who went rogue, is also gay. And I don't imagine they would be very Gay Rights about it.

From a real world perspective, Owen and Barb were right: surveillance technology was the future in 1961. It is the present we currently live in. Warrantless, invasive, built into every piece of tech we use. The future happened, and it didn't wait for Agent Curt Mega.

#jesus why do i do this #this is about to get 4 notes hahaha #spies are forever #tin can bros #curtwen #owen carvour #agent curt mega #saf #tcb #carvernor #seriously sincerely no disrespect meant to that owen surveillance network post going around #i just genuinely do think about this a lot and kept meaning to make a breakdown #and that post got my autism flowing

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grantwilson · 7 months

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we are discussing our childhood passions on the dash tonight

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liauditore · 16 days

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do you guys ever think about that time she said her backstory was that she was only partially zombiefied and was fully conscious mentally while she ate and killed her family. and that she was a princess. i do alot.

#hermitaday #zombiecleo fanart #zombiecleo #hermitcraft fanart #hermitblr #my art #cw cannibalism #cannibalism #no but seriously. i know it was her wow character lore but what a fucked up concept for a sensation that is #being in like. cutscene mode watching yourself murder your family. jesus christ man #no wonder she's so messed up like. wow #please take this as an apology after my unhinged ramble post the other day on my sideblog abt why i wanted to put cleo in a shredder #i still do btw. i don't take back anything i said but like. sorry. you're cool cleo

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moog-enthusiast · 10 months

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i lost my tablet pen and drew this on ms paint with my mouse my wrist is in agony holy fuck

#homestuck #bro strider #dave strider #strider bros #dirk strider #even the fake youtube thumbnail was edited by me jesus christ why did i do that #this joke is really stupid but #shitty humor is still fun humor #ms paint #ms paint adventures #hell yeah #a little bit pissed my adhd picked homestuck of all things to fixate on but like #if it makes content it makes content what can i say

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blueskittlesart · 3 months

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blood magic

#every time i try to render something im reminded of why i never render unless im being paid to do it. jesus christ #cant even decide if i like this BUT it took me too long not to post #anyways lesbians covered in blood wya #dungeon meshi #marcille #marcille donato #skribbles

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thelaurenshippen · 16 days

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911 really is such a good reminder of the particularly kind of joy that is weekly, seasons-long shows with many episodes per season. every character gets a moment to shine even in a truncated season. the satisfaction of seeing characters grapple with stuff that happened YEARS ago. having multi-episode arcs and one-off arcs that are equally enjoyable. beach episodes (metaphorical). I know we're all saying this all the time but why can't more tv be like this

#911 #911 spoilers #lauren feels things #do I hate waiting week to week for this show?#of COURSE #but it's so fun to run to youtube after an episode and watch the promo for next week #(why don't weekly streaming shows do promos btw? we should bring those back)#this week's 911 really was such a SHINING example of this #in one episode we got:#HUGE bobby exploration #bathena content #major hen exploration #AND henren content #eddie breakthrough #buddie content #callbacks to seasons 1 and 2 in MANY ways #tommy content!! that confrontation with his old shitty captain did so much in such a short time #we didn't get enough chimney or madney for my taste #but that's only because I can LITERALLY never get enough of them #and chimney had a hUGE episode 2 episodes ago so that's okay #and!!!!!! this is after a whole week spent JUST on bobby!#that was so compelling!!!#and in a 10 episode season still feels like we're getting to everything #the callback to dosed #the return of bobby's suicidal ideation #I mean jesus CHRIST #I'm so glad he and athena talked about the book #also I would loooooove love love another bobby chimeny convo about this at some point #bc that scene in s1 when bobby tells chimney about his plans to kill himself #is one of my favorite scenes it's SO good

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sluttylittlewaste · 2 months

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It's wild how many people took Kristen's line of questioning as her saying Tracker isn't taking her religion seriously instead of what I heard her asking which was:

How many of these people would be here if it wasn't religious Coachella?

#also #some of y'all don't seem to realize that Brennan is referencing some very serious real world questions #of what happens when legitimate religious movements get turned into social clubs #and how that transformation often deteriorates the messaging and purpose of said movement #jesus and judas had the same conversation #it's a significant part of why protestantism even exists #did y'all not watch the Hillsong doc?#have y'all never been to an evangelical megachurch #when the church start using free shit and cushy rewards to get people to join? it's a dog whistle for them losing the plot #which Kristen 100% knows #which is WHY SHE ASKED #she's asking how many of these people give a real fuck about Galicaea #IT'S A VALID QUESTION #and it's important that Kristen #(who understands just how deeply Tracker cares)#can pull her back to the reality of what she came to Fallinel to do #let me die #if i die #d20 fhjy #fhjy #dimension 20 #kristen applebees #rant #tracker o'shaughnessey #trackerbees

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icaruspendragon · 5 months

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girls will be like, “i don’t have catholic guilt. i use the imagery when writing because it’s fun to play around with!” and then write this:

#grief #obligatory #catholiscism #content warning #idk i just think people forget lazarus was just as human as the rest of us #that's what makes his miracle sting #why does he get to rise while i am left buried alive #he was human and jesus wept for him #i am also human #so why the hell didn’t he do the same for me?#what makes lazarus more human than me?#lol anyway

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pacificwaternymph · 10 months

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I love Arcane because on the one hand you have this bitter, angry young woman who was kidnapped and illegally detained in a federal prison for pretty much the entirety of her teen years, and when she's finally set free she finds that nothing is as she remembers it, all the people she once knew are either gone or irreversibly changed, and she doesn't know where her place in the world is anymore.

And then on the other hand you have this rich girl nepo baby rookie cop taking two steps outside her own neighborhood and being hit with the realization that her government REALLY FUCKING SUCKS.

And they're gay.

#i just love watching caitlyn slowly becoming more and more radicalized as she realizes #oh hey wow the way our society and government are structured is really fucked actually #anyway arcane is great definitely in my top five shows of all time #arcane #arcane league of legends #caitvi #vicait #violyn #piltover's finest #jesus why do they have so many ship names

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yanderespamton78 · 2 months

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AJDJSOAJW I MADE MY SPAMTON PLUSH THE DEFRAG OUTFIT

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I'm so normal. About. This comicc

Yes

Defragmentation by @zarla-s go read it if you haven't rjkwsjdkdhkash

#a #im gonna use the tags to just gush about defrag #like #you dont uunderstand #i dont even know hwy i like the comic so much im not like this about other deltarune fancomics n stuff #im just so rabid about it aa #i remember when i first found the dub i was just glad to find a comic dub that was longer than 5 mins #little did i know that this was the beginning of a defrag fixation which lasted for like a month and a half #i think defrag is like 70% of the reason why my spamton obsession has gone on for so long lmao #god i used to read it so much there was a time that i could quote it word for word up to the like 20th jesus #im not quite as insane now #also GOD I HATE SEWING #im so bad at it #i had to get my grandma to help me since she is good at sewing #she did most of it lmao i did some of the stitching tho #aa im so normal about him #oops nearly forgot to do fandom tags lmao #spamton #spamton deltarune #spamton g spamton #deltarune spamton #defragmentation #defragmentation au #spamton plush

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queerprayers · 6 months

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Waiting for God is like... You're expecting a guest. You haven't seen them in ages. You know they're coming, although you forget the exact time. And you don't need to impress them—they'd probably sleep on the floor, but why wouldn't you give up your bed? And it's not clean enough and you don't have matching curtains and they're not gonna care because they love you but you'll still probably do your best. Scrub the counter, at least. So you try to stay up to greet them but they're late or you were wrong about the day and you keep dozing off. All you really have to do is be at home when they knock and you'll wake up and figure everything out when they get here—but who wants to answer the door half-asleep? And you can probably get a few more things done while you're waiting. You can light a candle—that's welcoming, right?

So maybe you stay up doing dishes or maybe you give up and go to bed, but the knock makes you jump either way. It's light outside when you let them in, and that's not right, it can't be morning already. The windows are dark. Anyway, you're pouring them tea and apologizing for the mess and you realize they're not a guest at all—they live here, actually. Have your whole life. They probably make your lunch every day. Your house isn't yours at all, now that they're here, now that they've arrived and always been here. It's been yours, plural, yours together, and isn't it lovely that you don't have to worry about the curtains matching anymore? They've already seen them and chosen to stay every time.

There's another knock at the door. They arrive and you pour them tea. You get some sleep. You stop being surprised when your lunch is ready to go. You're expecting a guest. They make themselves at home; they are at home; they've been making themselves a home.

Your days are spent opening the door. They've been gone for so long; how could they have left you; why are they always forgetting to use a coaster and leaving icy circles on the wooden table; why can't you have any privacy in this house; you can't find them anywhere; this is only home when they're here; they keep arriving and you keep making tea do you think they'll ever get tired of tea do you they'll get tired of you opening the door half asleep do you think they're secretly annoyed by the mismatched curtains

Someone knocks on the door. You are interrupted. You keep forgetting you're expecting a guest. You were hoping they'd come and interrupt you. Someone knocks on the door. You're awake. You always make enough tea for two.

Eventually someone doesn't knock on your door. You find them on your doorstep waiting. You've been expecting a guest. The windows of your house are open all the time now, even though it's dark and cold, and you make your home some tea. It's never cold inside, as if opening the door let in warm air instead of cool. The candle you lit has been burning without getting smaller. You can't remember why you used to be surprised, why waiting was frantic. You wash the dishes because that's the next thing to do; because you wash the teacup of your not-guest like it's the chalice of a king.

One day you don't have a door anymore. You can see through the walls of your house and the whole galaxy spreads out before you. They're expecting a guest. You walk outside. The universe makes you tea.

#what if the bridegroom arrives but you're already married to him!#alternative title: unedited time loop jesus #Average Advent Enjoyer #come lord jesus be our guest and let thy gifts to us be blessed!!#no i haven't slept why do you ask

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spacetimesanytime · 8 months

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sanrio dump for u all 2day! i have a few more that won't fit in here but don't quite warrant a part 2 yet so. just these for now but expect more some day