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queersatanic · 4 months
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The Satanic Temple and Christian nationalists are on the same side
TST isn't engaging in "successful trolling" or undermining Dominionists; they are actively fueling a culture war that benefits both reactionaries and corporate Satanists
In general, people will call The Satanic Temple's activities “successful trolling” or “drawing attention to “the direct conflict between Christian Dominionism and the US Constitution”, claiming it’s the *reactionaries* who are falling for something every time.
In reality, the idea that the right wing is the one being hoodwinked assumes that they aren't benefitting from exactly this, and that these conflicts do not boost both sides taking part in it, each running their own grift for their own reasons.
Partially, this is because Doug "Lucien Greaves" Misicko and Cevin Soling (a.k.a. “Malcolm Jarry”) are fundamentally reactionary Gen X edgelords whose politics never go further left than right-wing libertarianism.
But the reason The Satanic Temple and the Christian nationalists are on the same side is that both of them materially benefit from pointing to the other as “the enemy”.
If Republicans didn't have TST, they'd want to invent them (and have). The Temple is their perfect foil.
These Satanic panics get both parties more attention, a higher profile, and more money as folk primarily motivated by anti-partisanship reflexively support something opposed by the groups that those folk hate.
“This’ll really piss off my conservative uncle/liberal niece.”
Yes, it seems like it’s fun and a good thing to watch The Satanic Temple piss off people you hate. But that feeling is exactly the lubricant that makes the grift work.
We've long said that the best way to describe The Satanic Temple to someone unfamiliar with them is "Scientology For Mall Goths".
So imagine instead it were Scientologists doing this.
Would you still root for them just because Republicans were the ones getting publicly mad?
If media only ever treated Scientology like merry pranksters, never getting into the front companies, treatment of former members, or histories of the owners of a corporate religion, would that be informing people of what’s going on?
Or would it be doing the exact opposite.
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sophieinwonderland · 2 months
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Speaking of being a wrecking ball and making enemies, I have so many asks piling up that I need to respond to...
But instead I feel like trolling a vindictive thin-skinned manchild with vast amounts of wealth he uses to bully and intimidate anyone who criticizes him by launching SLAPP suits against them.
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I'm sure this will end fine. 🤷‍♀️
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fira54funko · 2 months
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satanourunholylord · 1 year
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Lucien Greaves' (Founder of The Satanic Temple) opinion on Jewish people:
(Antisemitism TW)
(Note: I don't agree with this. However, I want the information to be shared as much as possible so that people can make up their own minds on whether they want to support Greaves/TST or not. I recognise that TST as a group does a lot of good, but I personally can't see past this)
“Like, I think it’s okay to hate Jews if you hate them because they’re Jewish and they wear a stupid fuckin’ frisbie on their head [correct term: yarmulke or kippah] and walk around [and] think their God’s chosen people, but it’s not okay to hate somebody [‘born of Jewish blood’] just because their parents were stupid fuckin’ Jews and wore stupid frisbies on their head and thought the Jews were God’s chosen people […] Not everybody of Jewish blood is okay with me, it depends on if they follow the Jewish, uh… […] Satanic Jews are fine”
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The final installment of my satanic trilogy
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rings-of-darkness · 6 months
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Title: "Satanic Baptism: A Closer Look"
Author: Damien Harker | Submitted: 23, October, 2023
[DISCLAIMER: These are my opinions and by no means representative of CoS as a whole.]
In Anton LaVey's "The Satanic Rituals," a fascinating and controversial topic is explored: Satanic Baptism. This ritual, meant for both adult and child initiates, is a striking departure from traditional religious baptisms. It's important to note that LaVey's Satanism is not about worshipping a literal devil but rather embracing the self and one's desires.
Adult Initiates: A Personal Choice
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Satanic Baptism for adults is a symbolic act of self-dedication. It's a statement to oneself and to the Satanic community that you fully embrace your identity and have chosen to walk the path of individualism and self-discovery. Unlike traditional baptisms, there's no external deity or authority being invoked. It's a rite of passage that signifies one's commitment to living life on their terms. It's crucial to remember that a baptism is not necessary for joining Satanism. It's a personal choice, and many Satanists choose not to partake in this ritual.
Child Initiates: Controversy and Critique
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The practice of initiating children into Satanism before they reach the age of consent is a deeply contentious issue. LaVey's rationale, which revolves around providing children with choices, empowering them with knowledge of various belief systems, and allowing them to make their own decisions, faces staunch and critical opposition.
Many vehement critics argue that children, particularly at a young age, lack the cognitive capacity to fully understand the profound implications of such a choice. The controversy surrounding this practice has triggered impassioned debates, both within and outside the Satanic community. The act of initiating children into Satanism raises fundamental questions about autonomy, agency, and the boundaries of influence, especially when it comes to an alternative belief system.
This is an issue that continues to provoke fervent discussions and underscores the diversity of perspectives within the Satanic community.
Ritual or Controversy?
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Satanic Baptism, like many aspects of LaVeyan Satanism, serves to provoke thought and challenge societal norms. It encourages critical thinking, individualism, and questioning the status quo. However, it's crucial to approach this ritual with a discerning eye and a sense of personal responsibility.
Ultimately, Satanic Baptism, be it for adults or children, underscores the importance of choice and the rejection of dogma. It reminds us that Satanism is not about conformity but about embracing our unique paths and making informed decisions for ourselves.
As with any topic in Satanism, the journey of self-discovery and understanding is deeply personal. The exploration of rituals like Satanic Baptism is a testament to the diversity of thought within the Satanic community.
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unwelcome-ozian · 2 years
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pertaining to "lucien greaves" (doug mesner) of the satanic temple—clearly the name lucien is derived from lucifer but do we have any idea what the "greaves" means and where it came from?
Lucien Greaves (also known as Douglas Misicko or Doug Mesner) Douglas Alexander Misicko, born August 1975.
Misicko claims to have studied neuroscience with a specialty in false-memory syndrome. There is no such thing as false-memory syndrome. He harrasses survivors, and isn’t interested in the truth of SRA and TBMC.
The Danger Behind the “False Memory” Myth
I don’t know where his name came from.
T.W. Anti Semitism/white supremacist
While we’re on the topic of Lucien Greaves, I’ll post to his anti-semitic rant. He’s a white supremacist and The Satanic Temple should crumble into dust.
“Like, I think it’s okay to hate Jews if you hate them because they’re Jewish and they wear a stupid fuckin’ frisbie on their head [correct term: yarmulke or kippah] and walk around [and] think their God’s chosen people, but it’s not okay to hate somebody [‘born of Jewish blood’] just because their parents were stupid fuckin’ Jews and wore stupid frisbies on their head and thought the Jews were God’s chosen people […] Not everybody of Jewish blood is okay with me, it depends on if they follow the Jewish, uh… […] Satanic Jews are fine,” (Adam, “Doug Mesner [Lucien Greaves/Douglas Misicko] Satanic Temple Anti-Semitic Rant” (transcribed).” Source
Another LINK
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tiny-elf-of-doom · 2 years
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Christians: Satanists are probably ugly and hide under cloaks to hide their faces.
Satanists:
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just a reminder: the organisation called The Satanic Temple is a scam and giving them your money will not protect your reproductive rights
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wolfgang-king · 2 years
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And somehow we’re the bad guys. This is not the first time the headquarters have been attacked.
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abs0luteb4stard · 2 years
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W A T C H I N G
My mom is a fan of the philosophy herein.
"We are supposed to be a democratic, pluralistic nation. We are supposed to be a nation that doesn't allow the government to dictate what is appropriate religious expression."
LUCIEN GREAVES
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queersatanic · 11 months
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What happened?
One of the co-owners of the Temple claims he’s stepping down as national spokesperson after noted transphobe and longtime reactionary dingus David Silverman was touring The Satanic Temple’s headquarters/art gallery in Salem with Christine Shellska.
Satanic Temple owner Doug “Lucien Greaves” Misicko took a picture with Silverman (and Shellska) in front of TST’s “Baphomet with Children” statue.
Instead of apologizing or even explaining his seeming endorsement of a person now primarily known for being loathsome, Misicko doubled down and blamed everyone criticizing him.
Wait, that’s it?
Yeah, and it’s been tearing The Satanic Temple’s membership apart for the past few days to the extent Misicko is promising (again) to step down as national spokesperson.
OK. Back up. Who is David Silverman? Is he the Nazi lawyer guy?
That’s Marc Randazza you’re thinking of, but it makes sense that you’re confused because there are a lot of these figures. TST is awash in them, and that’s part of the problem.
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sophieinwonderland · 2 months
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You can always tell where cringizens are getting their talking points the moment they mention the Satanic Panic.
By the way, does anyone know what con artist Luciean Greaves' actual credentials are?
Best I could find was that he "studied" neuroscience with a specialty in "false memory syndrome," the fictional syndrome made up by accused child molesters to discredit victims.
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But I can’t find out if he ever got any sort of degree.
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fira54funko · 2 months
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Lucien Greaves- Church Of Satan
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trashnmagico · 7 months
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Satanic Planet to Perform at Indiana Statehouse, Defying Legal Challenge
In a bold move that defies legal challenges, a musical group affiliated with The Satanic Temple (TST) is set to take the stage at Indiana’s Statehouse later this month. Satanic Planet, led by TST co-founder Lucien Greaves, secured permission to perform at this iconic venue after several months of negotiations, including a legal standoff. The groundbreaking performance is scheduled for noon on…
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run-of-the-milf · 1 year
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😂😂 lmao Lucien Greaves is an icon
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