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neil-gaiman · 6 months

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Mr. Gaiman sir!

Okay, that's enough formality. I have a question.

So recently, I discovered that nightmare in silver is a disliked episode of Doctor Who (I loved it, the dynamic of the doctor and cyberplanner? Love it).

Well, I have to ask, how much of it was changed without your saying if at all? And, do you ever feel regret for how the Cybermen became more robotic than cyborg?

Regardless, I absolutely adore the two episodes you've written for the show (the doctors wife is without flaw and no one can tell me otherwise)

I'm still fond of the original script for Nightmare in Silver.

The Cybermen I wanted to write would have been much more like the ones in Wheel in Space, which were the Cybermen that scared me, but what the show wanted were higher tech, upgradable Cybermen.

It was originally written for Beryl Montague, when she was going to be that season's companion... (She became the short-lived Victorian governess who became Clara.)

and it ended differently too...

#Nightmare in Silver

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notyoujamie · 10 months

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#doctorwhoedit #dwedit #tw: death #doctor who #modern who #the doctor #**#*dw #let's kill hitler #nightmare in silver #the time of the doctor #the husbands of river song #parallelmw #oxygen

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dwgif · 2 years

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DOCTOR WHO Nightmare in Silver 7.13

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nortism · 2 months

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doctor who liveblog pt 39

s7 ep13 nightmare in silver

- classic heads poking out the door one by one

- i’ve not seen classic who but that guy looks the amalgamation of all their doctors

- always the fucking cybermen

- hello warwick davis

- obviously they’re gonna wander off

- uh oh cyberman

- uh oh cyberbugs

- uh oh the cyberman got the little kid

- no blowing up this planet is good advice tbh

- uh oh half cybermen.

- uh oh he got cybered

- they really need a new companion handbook so clara can get how serious cybermen are

- oh that is quite a few cybermen

- oh no the most thing didn’t work

- porridge is the emperor?!

- i think i would have taken him on up on the marriage proposal

s7 ep14 the name of the doctor

- ayyy gallifrey

- oh the first doctor hello

- omg all the classic doctors

- impossible girl lets go

- MADAME VASTRA!!

- RIVER!! i’ve been wondering where she got to

- trenzalore sounds like an anti depressant

- JENNY?!!?!::)/£ NOOOOOO

- oh i don’t like these guys

- what do u mean an ex, u guys just got married??

- uh oh he’s crying, this is unsettling

- oh shit we’re going to the doctor’s grave

- the tardis always the most sensible person around

- oh giant tardis

- hello river

- RIVER’S GRAVE?!

- yay jenny

- oh this fucking guy again

- this is not good

- JENNY NOOOO

- strax omg

- omg clara no

- oh she said the line

- goodbye river

- ohhh the leaf

- this whole name business feels very much like a trans allegory

- hello john hurt as the doctor

mini episode - the night of the doctor

- i’ve been told there’s other mini episodes but this is the one that’s on iplayer

- not sure i got that but crazy stuff

the day of the doctor

- ooh the old intro

- she’s a teacher now??

- WITH BILLIE PIPER???

- also hello david tennant or whatever

- hello billie piper??

- is this meant to be rose?!

- wait she’s the conscience??

- ohhhhhh

- i forgot he married elizabeth i

- oh hello painted david tennant

- david what has happen to your hair?!?

- this is so silly

- uh oh zygons

- jack harkness mention!!

- NO CLARA!!

- yes then clara !!

- that’s a lot of dead children

- ofc the door was unlocked

- ALLLL THIRTEENNNNNN

- oh this is hype as hell

- ohhh the war doctor turning into nine

- i think i supposed to know who the curator is but i don’t

- that was a crazy crossover, i loved it. i just wish eccelston didn’t hate being the doctor bc i would have liked it if all three of them showed up

the time of the doctor

- oh yes fake dating subplot

- ohhh gallifrey

- oh great the silence

- the tardis should work by remote

- oh great the wall crack

- shitttt trenzalore

- oh he pulled a the parting of ways on clara

- how has he aged??

- oh he’s only got a finite number of lives, like a cat

- not again, poor clara

- oh he’s old old

- oh bonus regeneration power

- that’s not peter capaldi??

- oh he’s still cooking

- aww amelia

- AMY 😭😭

- oh the bow tie

- PETER CAPALDI!! i hope he treats clara better bc my girl has been through the wars

- tragic we didn’t get to see him looking awkward in the bow tie, that’s always my favourite part of each regeneration

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embracing-the-ineffable · 2 months

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In Nightmare in Silver, Neil Gaiman wrote a sort of "Doctor vs Doctor" story arc, and left me wondering whether we'll see anything similar in Good Omens season 3...?

(gifs credit to @dwgif)

Crowley can stop time, after all. Can he also travel through time? What happens if he meets himself along the way? We still don't have an explanation for these twin Crowley dolls (post by @noneorother) standing on either side of God, and Neil just reshared the post from Mickey Ralph about how unsettling everyone found these dolls. Is he trying to draw our attention back to them?How important is this Clue, among the thousands of clues scattered everywhere?

Look, too, at the way they used a red vs blue background to help differentiate the two versions of the Doctor in Nightmare in Silver (above). That's familiar, too, although with Gabriel, this time:

This is all going to make sense ... eventually 😅 Until then, I'd love to hear your theories!

#good omens #good omens meta #good omens analysis #good omens theory #good omens speculation #crowley #Mickey Ralph #neil gaiman #good omens season 2 #good omens season 3 #doctor who #nightmare in silver

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6-and-7 · 6 months

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Time Ramvent Day 12: Excellence in Silver It's Colin Baker's 'Nightmare in Silver', and the shock reveal that Peri's been a nanny this whole time! Or something like that. A trip to an amusement park planet goes horribly awry when the TARDIS lands right in the midst of the opening salvo of a new Cyber-War. As Peri gets flanged after by Porridge the totally-not-a-space-emperor, the Doctor is forced to match wits and shouting against his only true intellectual rival; himself, but in monochrome.

#doctor who #time ram #art #fan art #my art #time ramvent #sixth doctor #colin baker #peri brown #cybermen #nightmare in silver

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thefiresofpompeii · 4 months

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if you've watched nightmare in silver i'd love to hear what you think — it's a pretty good episode in my opinion and it's one of the few cybermen-as-the-main-monster episodes i actually liked, but it's also one of those episodes that takes some of its most interesting elements from something i like a lot more from the eu so that coloured my perception a bit (turns out constantly going wow just like zagreus makes you less capable of just enjoying the episode as it is. oops)

it’s… a mixed bag of an episode, honestly, provided how much stuff is actually in it. i liked select parts of it a whole lot, much room for thought there, whereas others … skeeved me out, to put it mildly. i don’t think neil could possibly have topped the masterpiece that is The Doctor’s Wife, and whatever he set out to do here… could have stood a little more editing??

to get the grumbling out of the way: the kids. Most Annoying Who Side Characters Ever award goes to them, singlehandedly taking first place away from that stuck-up nerd in Poison Sky. i don’t know if neil intended for them to act supremely slappable, but christ alive. just the constant dour negativity and ‘bored teenager’ unimpressed commentary … walking vibe drainers. made it hard to care about their fate tbh. oh they got cyberconverted? oh they got rescued and brought back? Whatever. call me a boomer apologist… i’ve never referred to a pair of children (fictional or real) as ‘ungrateful spoiled brats’ before but this could be the day i start.

additionally: the hell was that stuff about clara at the end? “too short and bossy and your nose is all funny” “mystery wrapped in an enigma stuffed into a skirt that’s just a little too tight” go to hell gaiman. genuinely. here i was relying on you, thinking you’re immune to casual misogyny. especially since it doesn’t even make sense… clara’s skirts are never tight? not once? i understand that the former comment was a bluff to get out of admitting feelings but, again it’s not even accurate, since jenna coleman’s nose completely fits the beauty standard?? baffles me

those are all minor nitpicks bc other than that the episode’s fun! and creative, especially all the scenes with the cyber-planner and their high-stakes chess game (you like chess dontcha). i haven’t listened to zagreus (YET) but from what i’ve gathered from internet osmosis the doctor gets possessed by an … evil nursery rhyme? lmao. seems legit

anyway nightmare in silver has unfortunately made me understand people who find matt smith attractive. i’ve cracked it: it’s a dormant gene that only activates when he’s playing an intimidating villain. especially here, when he’s mr clever, a warped mirror of eleven, with the boundaries between the two blurring so far as to confuse even clara. this moment is top notch:

which one of you said that? she’s right to question it.

he’s been quietly manipulative with clara for the entire duration of their travels so far, concealing from her the truth about the ‘mystery’ that her whole existence presents to him, while she remains the object of his puzzle-solving quest. a particularly odious example in this scene in Journey to the Centre of the TARDIS, where the doctor is fully aware that their impending doom at the cliff is an illusion, but puts on the pretense that they’re about to fall to their deaths anyway, building all that fear just to to coax clara’s “secret” out of her (“since we’re both going to die here, you may as well tell me what you are”). as soon as he gets what he wants — or, rather, doesn’t, because there’s no satisfactory answer yet — he reveals that he’d known all this time that the TARDIS wouldn’t have let them fall.

that’s what makes mr. clever so insidiously, well, clever as a plot device: eleven’s not possessed by an external force, not quite. no: it’s his own shadow showing. he’s always been like this. the cyber-code slowly taking over the right side of his brain is just as smart as him, just as manipulative, just as much of a trickster. all his darker traits turned up to, well, 11 (sorry not sorry). “allons-y!” “fantastic!” “you’ve had some cowboys in here” mr clever is a parasite that takes the worst and best parts of the doctor, cuts them up and re-attaches them in a parodic audio-collage, and isn’t that just so fucking ingenious

another line that’s just a straight banger, not much to say about it really other than the fact that it cuts straight through to the core of the narrative:

this spun out of control and turned out far far longer than expected, my apologies (not really. you asked!)

#dw #nightmare in silver #doctor who #eleventh doctor #neil gaiman #matt smith #clara oswald #jamie catches up #jamie.txt #doctor who meta

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userpoe · 2 years

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Hey. Guys. It's not the moon, okay? It's a Spacey Zoomer ride, or it was.

#dwedit #doctorwhoedit #dwgif #doctor who #s7 #nightmare in silver #eleventh doctor #nym.gifs #i love him lots <33 #also this episode is gorgeous

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aletterinthenameofsanity · 2 months

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there is something about writing a character that was assumed dead and came back but came back wrong....but that wrong being mind control.

hear me out, i swear.

a story about a character that came back wrong. the story told from the perspective of someone who knew them well and someone who didn't. the person who knew them well assuming the trauma of the experience made them crueler and more aggressive but chalking it down to the trauma and wondering if the person they loved is permanently changed, permanently altered by the horrors they went through. the person who didn't know them well assuming that they were this horrible, this cold, this cruel, all along and that they were just hiding it all along, that they were always an abusive monster, that this was always the truth. and everyone else failing on picking up on the signs because this person isn't wrong enough for them to notice.

and the person who came back, still alive, still right, but stuck inside their head. screaming. fearing the worst: that no one will ever realize that the Thing in their body isn't them.

because they did come back wrong. because They never came back at all. a Thing did, wearing their face, assimilating Never Quite Right but Not Wrong Enough that people can't justify it.

and there's a very good chance that no one will ever know that They're still screaming, because no one will ever listen hard enough.