#nor do i do guns

[compacflt]

hey! i was just going through your blog, and i saw a post about ice&carole and mav&goose. i looked a bit more but i couldn't find a post about your take on mav and goose's relationship, so i wanted to ask what it was. if you have answered this, i'm sorry about asking you again. imo i think what they had was wayy deeper than friendship but complex and probably not romantic, but again, i just wanted to know your thoughts on it.

thank you! and this blog has probably been one of the best finds i have ever come across on tumblr, i'll be sad to see you go.

yeah, i was really trying to be suave and subtle and mysterious about it with this parallel

like, you should be able to figure it out for yourself.

but luckily for you i looooove beating dead horses. to a problematic degree.

the full story of my vision of mavgoose (moose?) is in the completed draft of the extras that are coming out on Saturday. about halfway through. But i want to bring it back to the internal craft-of-writing debate i brought up yesterday—my inability to summarize, or to cut superfluous sections that don’t really matter.

I’ll stick it under the cut for spoiler reasons, but i wanna show the simple first draft of this scene versus the complicated, heavier final draft. And I want to ask any of you, if you’re interested—as a reader, which is more impactful? which should i end up publishing?

the simple first draft:

then i kept turning it in my head thinking of different ways to edit it to say something slightly different, to get a little more specific, coming up with things to add, and ended up adding like five extra paragraphs. which is this:

about 1/4 of the final draft (by which i mean, this is about 1/4 of the whole final discussion scene, but the goosemav-specific content only goes on for about another graf [omitted bc spoilers]):

(so to answer your ask explicitly, i actually don’t think they were anything deeper than good friends. imo there’s no evidence that they were anything deeper than good friends, especially with maverick blowing goose/goose’s wishes off soooo many times [‘she’s lost that lovin feelin;’ volleyball; refusing to do the responsible thing at least twice even after goose tells him it puts his & his family’s livelihoods at risk…bro all he does is blow off goose]. see me bitching in the tags for more on this)

obviously in my head the complicated in-depth version ⬆️ is the True version, the version of events that really Happened. i think the writing is in some spots much more compelling. But it just doesn’t make for a particularly good reading experience when it’s surrounded by like 3/4 pages of other discussion of history! sometimes too much of (what i think is) a good thing turns that good thing bad! & this is a major keystone dynamic of my whole series so i just want to get it right, for my own peace of mind. I guess im asking you to be the harsh editor i wish i had sometimes, if ur interested in doing so—this is genuinely a major major problem i have with my writing, i can’t ever just leave well enough alone 😭 please let me know if simpler is better/less is more in this case! do i publish the short vague “the reader fills in the blanks” version or the long boring “here’s EXACTLY how i see it” version?

#crowd sourcing beta readers. let me know. #also. #how many times do i have to say maverick is neither a good person nor a good friend #and the writers of TGM hugely whitewashed and dulled down the original sharpness and thoughtlessness of his character #for the sake of post-50s tom cruise mary-sueifying him #before it sticks? #if it helps you can write out a list of his actions in the original movie. #for instance: > blows off goose to be late to dinner with Charlie anyway #> follows her into the women’s restroom > continues a pattern of dangerous behavior even after #Goose his supposed best friend tells him multiple times it is threatening their jobs #the truck master scene… the locker room scene… the ‘can’t afford to blow this scene’ #and then he does it a FOURTH TIME AND KILLS GOOSE HELLO!!!!! #so much for being a good friend like c’mon!!! #if he REALLY respected goose he would have SHOWN HIS RESPECT FOR GOOSE!!! #i am leaving this blog so out come the hot takes! #movies are also woobifying tom cruise lately! how’s that for a hot take #i genuinely felt insulted by TGM’s sexless passionless soft bokeh-light KIND OF half-sex with Penny. that was insulting. #what happened to the savage bitter kid in 1986 top gun? why is he so soft and toothless? #the only time we see him is in the ‘it’s not the plane it’s the pilot’ ‘EXACTLY’ exchange. THATS maverick. #sorry you know me. TGM is not my favorite. i am extremely cynical about it. #i love the IP but the writing choices in the 2nd movie wrt mav especially make me…. 😵‍💫😵‍💫 #pete maverick mitchell #nick goose bradshaw #mavgoose #you can ignore me bitching but pls don’t ignore my begging for secondary opinions here

[bluewritinghood]

I absolutely love Icemav so I made a fan edit of them, this song fits them so well!

Disclaimer:

I do NOT own Top Gun, or Top Gun Maverick, nor do I claim to. I do not own any characters in this fan fic or from Top Gun. This transformative
work has been created purely for
entertainment purposes. No profit is
made or sought. No copyright
infringement is intended. All publicly recognizable characters, settings, etc. are the property of their respective owners. The original characters and plot are the property of the respective owners. I am in no way associated with the owners, creators, or producers of any media franchise. No copyright infringement is intended. I don’t own Anything to do with the Top Gun franchise.

DISCLAIMER: I do NOT own Hozier or any of his music nor do I claim to. I do not own anything from Hozier in this fan edit or from Hozier. This transformative
work has been created purely for
entertainment purposes. No profit is
made or sought. No copyright
infringement is intended. All publicly recognizable characters, settings, etc. are the property of their respective owners. The original characters and plot are the property of the respective owners. I am in no way associated with the owners, creators, or producers of any media franchise. No copyright infringement is intended. I don’t own

I am purely a fan and this is purely a fan edit shared for the enjoyment of others and no profit is sought in any way or form.

#icemav #fan edit #no copyright infringement intended #not my music #not my movie #I own nothing to do with this #ice x mav #iceman #pete maverick mitchell #tom iceman kazansky #iceman x maverick #I do NOT own Top Gun or Top Gun Maverick nor do I claim to. I do not own any characters in this fan fic or from Top Gun. #This transformative work has been created purely for entertainment purposes. No profit is made or sought. #work has been created purely for entertainment purposes. No profit is made or sought. No copyright infringement is intended. #entertainment purposes. No profit is made or sought. #made or sought. No copyright infringement is intended. #infringement is intended. #All publicly recognizable characters settings etc. are the property of their respective owners. #The original characters and plot are the property of the respective owners. #I am in no way associated with the owners creators or producers of any media franchise. #No copyright infringement is intended. I don’t own Anything to do with the Top Gun franchise. #DISCLAIMER: I do NOT own Hozier or any of his music nor do I claim to. #I do not own anything from Hozier in this fan edit or from Hozier. #No profit is made or sought. No copyright infringement is intended.

[transdragonlira]

I finally got that new palworld game! excited to play it!!!!!!!!!

#if you want my honest opinion on palworld is that it's a game that it is a game that exists and probably can legally fall into a parody game #I do not care about it nor feel like playing it #but the company who made it also made an AI garticphone ripoff #so take that as you will #also side note it's so funny how palworld players are calling pokemon games slop #like yeah you are right but youre enjoying the same exact slop but with guns

[calkale]

im so sick of fucking online courses

#get me the gun #all im asking is for you to teach me what im supposed to do on the test #there is not a single question on the pretest that I learned this unit #nor stuff i learned last year #at least with in person classes you can be like um hey?? #but if I have a question I have to wait a whole day to basically be told 'idk figure it out' #AND IM STILL SICK

[that-crazy-five-foot-two-chick]

Guess who's back on her nonsense?

✨me✨

aka skz as @ao3-crack posts, shoot #2 part 1

#stray kids #skz #skz stay #bystay #skz memes #my memes #skz edits #skz five star #skz 5 star #hi chris how ya doin #yall know i couldn't have a dbz meme and just Not put it with Chan #i also dont think i could've found a more perfect one for IN in the entire batch of my findings #nor will i stop making memes to reference Seungmin staring demon eyed at Hyunjin in the shower (but not looking down) #it's not my fault i keep finding memes that fit that exact situation regardless of the fact that it's from like 2018 #doesn't take long to think these things up nor does it take me long to make them individually but collectively? #takes a minute #but i had to do something with my hands on memorial day while the dads were talking about guns and work and stuff #and yes i realize that is an extremely American sentence but it's absolutely true #i really didnt mind but my dad's the one who knows things about guns not me #i can shoot semi accurately to everyone's surprise #the important part is to be safe kids #and to make good memes #why does this sound like a sex ed psa video from the 80s or something #thank goodness i had a better education than that #anyway time to shut up #enjoy guys

[thesummerfox]

Happy birthday, lovely @mercurygray! 💕🌟

#top gun maverick #topgunmaverickedit #jake seresin #hangman #moviegifs #capkcreates #I have not seen this film nor do I have any intent to watch it #but when a friend loves a thing... 😉 #lots of love to ya Merc #you're one of the best people in my life 🌟

[discodraws]

Less than a week till it all Ends! 🎃 🔪 So I redrew that sick promo poster for the movie!

#my art #halloween #halloween ends #michael myers #laurie strode #the shape #halloween franchise #john carpenters halloween #i dont think laurie is holidng a gun nor do i think mikey is holding his knife but i improvised and they look sexier this way

[itscoldinwonderland]

"libertarians are conservatives!"

a real libertarian wants to legalize drugs and legalize sex work and leave lgbtq people alone and let women get abortions and remove church from state

#and im not a libertarian nor do i feel full libertarianism is it #but its so at odds eith conservativism #libertarian #conservative #text post #meme #gay marijuana guns

[sleepy-hyperfixations]

idk man im not personally attracted to Val Kilmer, but i do like him. arguably far more than tom cruise, whom i only apparently like when he's playing a character

#top gun #i don't support nor like tom cruise #but i do like and support maverick #unrelated and probably a contradiction #i do think val kilmer was good looking

[zhonglicious]

aah im thinking of bonten ran who wld do anything for his darling princess...

#tw gore #tw violence #i had this one draft once #it was of ran pulling out someones teeth for talking off to reader #aah #ran who wld do anything if it meant his dearest princess wld be happy #wld pull out his gun without hesitation and shoot out the brains of the person that tried to wrong you #anything u want u get #nothing is too big a task nor too much money to fetch for him #if its for you there is nothing that is out of his reach #aah i love tropes where villains r married and theyre both completely devoted to each other #them against the world #two againt everyone else #i like my men sick and twisted

[stick-named-figure]

[image ID (continued from alt text): First drawing is of it standing while aiming a pistol. Second drawing is of it from behind, apparently mid-flight, looking back over it's shoulder. Third drawing is of it curled up, one hand making a peace sign. End ID].

#self post #self art #not avm #sona #ish. idk about it yet. nor do i have a name #cw guns #krita

[compacflt]

I just finished rereading Slider's oneshot and I loved it just as much as I always do. I was wondering if you had any thoughts on how the conversation between Ice and Cougar went at Ice's retirement ceremony. You gave us little snippets of it from Slider's point of view, but I'd love to hear more of it if you have thoughts on it you'd like to share.

this is such a kind ask. i have no idea

for the same reason there is no explicit reaction in ch 12 when ice first hears mav say i love you—i spent a good week low key trying to figure out whether a reaction was needed there—it’s such a potent powerful cocktail of so many wild & unfamiliar emotions that i don’t personally think i have the literary juice to even attempt to try to describe it

i also am allergic to writing ice or mav explicitly coming out to anyone because it gives me secondhand embarrassment for them. the idea of the commander of the pacific fleet having to psych himself up to awkwardly mumble “um i should’ve told you all this time … i think i…i think im gay” to his friend gives me the ick sorry he’s not fifteen years old. so he Could be doing the big lgbt rite of passage of emotionally apologizing and coming out to Cougar in that conversation. but he Could Also be doing the ‘im nearly sixty years old im not gonna bullshit you’ thing of simply saying: “you and I have been very shitty to each other in the past and i apologize for that in x,y,z way and you were right about me and maverick and we’re gonna make it official this summer and if you want to come we’d really love to have you & normalize diplomatic relations between us again, you’re a real great friend when you’re not being a massive fucking douche”

#slider doesn’t get to hear that convo for the meta reason of ‘he’s a sideline character he’s not important to the narrative at all’ #And to further the theme of the slider one shot that being ices friend is learning about his life secondhand & reading lips #was it Samuel delany who wrote that the post-stonewall act of coming out is just a way to play into boring straight ideas of #normal and notnormal? #that it is counterproductive & only serves to isolate lgbt people more by making their existence an event that needs to be commented on? #speaking as someone who Did have the teary ‘i think im a lesbian’ confession with my parents at 15 like… it shouldn’t be that serious #the whole point is just—ok this is a part of me so take it or leave it. #it’s neither conversation nor announcement. it’s just life. lol. just logistics. come to my wedding or don’t idgaf #tom iceman kazansky #ron slider kerner #bill cougar cortell #top gun #edts notes #my posting schedule might be wack for a week or so—am out of the country #will try to post around 10am ET the way i usually do #but that is solidly dinner time where i am currently so might miss it #i reread the slider oneshot all the way through for the first time since posting it to answer this ask #wow it’s pretty miserable isn’t it #btw in the original draft that went up to 2022 slider marries sarah which makes him and ice brothers for real. #one big happy family #send tweet

[pendraegon]

hey that post is ominous as fuck. what is your inkling 👀

here's all i can say. make it so billboard big that it goes over everyone's heads from the very start.

#you dont even need to have a creepy encyclopedic knowledge of pete's blogs + poems like i do nor do u have to know about the fact #that so many songs post 2009 reference really fucking old poems of pete's from the early 2000s and this really isn't my place to say #anything but. i havent been wrong before at all so. im just putting this out there so i can gloat in the future over being insane/right #by the end of tour maybe a few months past it. maybe within 1.5 years. something will happen and i know exactly what they're gunning for #again it's not a bad thing. it's a GOOD THING. in fact. i'm thrilled. but. if u dont come to these conclusions on ur own im not giving #them out. bc it's all really right fucking there to piece together if u know exactly what threads to pull and what to press. and the #picture that comes together? so startlingly clear. #anon

[tinseltina]

*sees dude's profile pic* he's SO CUTE HOLY MOLY

*checks description "has 3 kids he shares custody of"*

😓 oof

#nothing against people with kids i just genuinely dont want them nor to get into a relationship with someone who has them #he was SO CUTE TOO this SUCKS #personal #i'll probably be single for the rest of my life ngl everyone sucks so much on this app and in general #i do too #but in that 'insufferably bad court jester' sorta way not the 'thinks taco bell and holding guns' is a personality kinda way

[scarletfasinera]

I don't understand a word people say about any new Star Wars movie. You say the words "Kylo Ren" to me and I black out and stop hearing you. those aren't words I understand I'm sorry

#txt #I'm being so honest you could hold me at gun point and ask me to explain anhthing that happens post-Episode VI and I'd take the bullet #Everyone talks about Kylo & I don't know who that is nor do I want to. I'm fine like this

[semercury]

i'm so bad at writing action scenes...

#stuff sarah says #somehow the trials in a certain video game cringe fic were way easier to write #i think bc it's emotion based? like everyone's supposed to be so scared and fighting for their lives with no weapons #and i can do that. i can write fear. i can write getting impaled on a meat hook repeatedly #guns???? mutated evil scientists????????? environmental explosions???? #girl help........ #and of course i'm writing abt the gun evil mutated guy and explosions games... #while i would love to write 50k of people just crying and talking about feelings. that's not realistic to canon #nor is it actually the story i wanted to tell either. i wanted peril. #i'm just used to a lot more dialogue and less action in my peril i guess #but i'm doing my best #i should read things that have action in them for research while i edit i think #or oh nooo replay the games over and over again (actually i can't do that bc i already do) #(and clearly it didn't make me better at writing these scenes)