Timeline of Scott and Jean’s Marriage Falling Apart (part 1)
(New X-Men #131)
I’ve been rereading New X-Men and I really want to dig into all the stuff that went down between Scott and Jean (and why they SHOULD have gotten a divorce). I feel like everyone has a tendency to just blame the affair with Emma but there was so much shit going on before that. Let’s take a look.
The Search for Cyclops #4. Jean saves Scott from possession by Apocalypse, and Ozymandias seems to foreshadow that Scott will not fully recover from the trauma of possession. Ozymandias is correct.
Uncanny X-Men #393. Logan asks Scott how he’s doing since the possession stuff and Scott lashes out at him for invading his privacy. On the Scott-and-Jean front, it’s mentioned that they no longer have their psychic rapport but that Scott knows his wife well enough to know her plans.
Uncanny X-Men #394. There’s trouble in paradise and Logan can tell. He brings it up to Jean.
“Everything’s fine,” she lied. (Logan also kisses Jean in this issue because he thinks they’re about to die. Stop doing that, Logan. Jesus.)
New X-Men #114. Once again Logan decides that Scott and Jean’s increasingly strained relationship is his business. (This is OUR failing marriage.)
(Hank also notices that all is not well in the Summers-Grey marriage.)
New X-Men #116. Scott takes marriage advice from some bugs.
We finally get some more context on what exactly is going on with Scott and Jean. They haven’t had sex in five months (probably not since before Scott’s possession by Apocalypse.) Scott is cold and distant, according to Jean. Scott is traumatized and all Jean wants to do is help him, but she can’t. (Sidenote: Jeannie baby you ALSO don’t know what it’s like to be POSSESSED by an evil spirit. Grant Morrison I am sending you a copy of Fantastic Four #286.)
New X-Men #117. Jean is lonely so she seeks out Logan, who explains that Scott and Jean are perfect for each other. Then Jean kisses him and he’s like, “You and me are never gonna happen.” (For some reason I remembered this kiss happening AFTER Scott and Emma first hook up, but look at that! Jean’s infidelity came first.)
New X-Men Annual. Emma taunts Scott about the fact that he and his wife aren’t having sex.
New X-Men #139. (Flashback)
Emma propositions Scott and he turns her down.
New X-Men #118. Jean asks Scott if he messed around with Emma during the annual. This is building up to be a really terrible cocktail of trust issues and intimacy issues. Like I think Jean’s paranoid (and projecting, considering she had just tracked Logan into the woods to kiss him) but also she’s not entirely WRONG because Scott IS having/going to have an affair with Emma.
New X-Men #120. Somehow, the Phoenix returned. Possibly to salvage Jean and Scott’s marriage because, as we know, the Phoenix Force looooooves Scott.
New X-Men #121. Same energy as the “Love you, wife” panel from Uncanny 394.
New X-Men #122. The girls are fightingggg. Scott’s concerned about the Phoenix returning (as am I, but my concerns are rooted in the fact that Grant Morrison forgot about the Phoenix retcon.) I wonder if Jean’s desire for psychic and physical intimacy/closeness is somewhat being fulfilled by the Phoenix at this point? Her husband won’t touch her, but the Phoenix wants to be fully entwined with her.
New X-Men #125. Cassandra Nova digs around in Scott’s head and says that Jean expects him to be so much better than he is. Scott powers through.
New X-Men #126. They love each other so much.
Cassandra Nova messes with Scott’s brain again. Did the bugs tell Scott he’s going to sleep with Emma? Also: interesting here that Scott might be afraid he’ll let Jean down as an X-Man, or as a husband, or both.
“Well! Now that Cassandra Nova’s dealt with! Back to the matter at hand: we still can’t be intimate with each other and we need so much goddamn therapy.”
Cyclops #3. Scott tells some Savage Land cavepeople about his marriage difficulties. (Choosing to interpret “leader” as in Scott being leader of the X-Men, a team Jean is on, and not that Scott is somehow the leader of their relationship.)
New X-Men #128. For some reason, Scott thinks that bringing his marital problems to Emma is a productive idea. He also makes two really annoying references to wanting Phoenix and being unsatisfied with “just Jean.” (They’re not. the same. person.)
But I do think what Scott says some very illuminating stuff here about “faking teenage unconditional love in the face of unstoppable chaos and change” and “I’m not who I was and I can’t tell her who I am... in case she hates what I’ve become.”
It’s easy for Scott and Jean to be Scott&Jean when everything’s going to hell and the X-Men are getting thrown into high-stakes mission after high-stakes mission. But it’s hard to find a balance when things are relatively quiet. (🎶 But at least the war is over...)
New X-Men #131. First of all, I love how much Emma looks like Generation X-era Emma here. The little glasses, the big fur robe. Second of all, it’s been interesting to see how much Hank, Logan and Emma all become involved in Scott and Jean’s marital problems.
For example, here’s Logan pointing out that Scott and Jean need to communicate better.
Scotty you’re a master strategist. WHAT was the plan here? Emma is not a therapist. Of any sort.
She’s definitely not a qualified sex therapist. Also I agree that yeah, Scott’s possession trauma seems to be affecting him in much the way a sexual trauma would. So he should see an actual, licensed therapist. Who isn’t trying to mindfuck him and actual-fuck him for a laugh.
This is actually so disappointing because I want them to be having these messy, invasive conversations about JEAN. But they’re just talking about the Phoenix.
Once again Scott expresses that he doesn’t want to hurt Jean, and he feels that telling her the truth about his feelings will hurt her.
[Narrator voice] They were in fact having some kind of weird affair.
New X-Men #134. Hank is very concerned about Scott being unfaithful. It’s almost as if he cares more about preserving Scott and Jean’s marriage than Scott and Jean do.
New X-Men #138. Scott says that Apocalypse’s possession made him feel like his life and his marriage were small and boring.
(I’m gonna post this now before Tumblr can eat it again. More to come.)
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7. what character did you begin to hate not because of canon but because how how the fandom acts about them?
this is not so much a character as it is a ship but i am not excited for rogue/gambit. people on my dash have been very annoying about them (and i quickly unfollowed) but now there is a sour taste in my mouth unfortunately.
12. the unpopular character that you actually like and why more people should like them
WARREN WORTHINGTON III. i do not know if he is really unpopular or not but i saw that "which o5 x-men is your fav" poll and he was like 6% :( i really love warren. a) all the art of him is fantastic bc of the WINGS, b) he has never once Not been there for the x-men even after he left during second genesis. he also has (from what i can tell) some amazing storylines coming up that i am super excited for! plus, something about the way he was genuinely so adult about the scottjean stuff back in the silver age really, really got to me. and he never let it affect his friendship with either of them and that's so special to me. the way he started the champions bc he genuinely wanted to do good and it just fell apart around him was also a big selling point for me. he tried so hard! he really did! he didn't even want to be leader of them, he gave that role away like it was petty change. anyway he is my favourite man. my favourite man. also, that ass. am i right
25. common fandom complaint that you're sick of hearing
i very quickly get tired of people who use civil war or other major events as a reason to hate on specific characters. from what i can tell, unless that character's actions and traits are carried on in a non-event canon, it was just a fluke of the creative team you know? that's what i hear constantly, anyway. can't think of any specific examples BUT to sum it up, i am tired of people complaining about characterization during large/major events bc it is hardly ever real or lasting and you're just looking for a reason to justify your dislike of someone which a) you dont need a reason to dislike someone and b) youre being obtuse
choose violence asks (to clarify, any fandom i engage with is welcome!)
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♫ + Scott/Jean!
Thank you for the ask!!!!
I have... FAR too many song associations for these two XD After too much fretting these are the top 3
Ocean Breathes Salty by Modest Mouse
Your body may be gone, I’m gonna carry you in/In my head, in my heart, in my soul
The Woodpile by Frightened Rabbit
Bereft of all social charm/Struck dumb by the hand of fear/I fall into the corner's arms/Same way that I've done for years/I'm trapped in a collapsing building/Come find me now/We'll hide out/We'll speak in our secret tongues
Till There's Nothing Left by Cam
I wanna know what it feels like/To disappear into you and/Never have to say goodbye
Bonus Song! Only the Brave by Louis Tomlinson
No particular lyrics- it's a short and rather poetic little song- but it's the perfect blend of nostalgic/hopeful/melancholy/romantic for ScottJean feels to me
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x men (or x WOMEN i’m a feminist) for the ships thing
x MEN. im a meninist
otp - kitty x rachel <3
favourite canon pairing - scottjean
worst pairing ever - kitty x piotr blegh. joss whedon KYS!
guilty pleasure pairing - jeanemma..... toxic bi women moment
a pairing you want to see more - kitty x rachel
that pairing everyone likes but you’re like “lol no” - scemma. sorry
favorite non-romantic pair - kitty and logan :)
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