#so if it's shit well. forgive me

[brookheimer]

i feel very mixed on shiv's ending, particularly her choice to return to tom -- i think it makes sense from a thematic/character arc perspective and is a powerful yet devastating indictment of both shiv and the world that created her as well as showing that the cycle of abuse will always continue to cycle, that shiv will become her mother etc, but i also think it does not make sense from a character/internal logic perspective. it's a choice that makes sense from the writers, but not from shiv, not yet. it could've been a brilliant ending to her character, but is tainted for me by the less-than-ideal execution of it, which felt very rushed, making shiv's final submission to tom feel forced by the show rather than forced by the situation or honest to her character. the ending is not inherently misogynistic from the writers' side as i've seen some criticisms claim (it is a dark but real portrayal of misogyny within capitalist society and how it's internalized within the white women who end up at the hips of the CEOs who run it), but i do understand how it could feel that way. the show fails at building up to (and thus convincing us) that the version of shiv we currently know would so immediately subject herself to her mother's fate, so instead of it feeling like shiv's hand was forced by patriarchy to place herself into her worst nightmare, it instead feels like the show itself was the thing that forced shiv to take that route, which does leave a sour taste in the mouth. it doesn't feel like the result of a choice shiv would make or the impact of patriarchal society bearing down, it just feels rushed and thus wrong. shiv would've benefitted immensely from a few more episodes or even just a few scenes dedicated to teasing out her newfound willingness to subject herself to immense disrespect in order to remain close to power, but given that her entire character has always been defined by her inability to do just that unless forced to (which i don't think she was in this situation as she could've easily not waited in the car for tom, not put her hand in his, but she did), her return to tom feels hard to comprehend, and her near immediate submission to him hard to stomach.

(read more under the cut because jesus christ did this get long)

in my mind, at least, i've always understood shiv as being respect-driven rather than power-driven -- she wants power, yes, but more than anything she wants to be taken seriously and respected and seen as a legitimate player, and time and time again we've seen her blow up situations that would've been very advantageous long-term because she felt disrespected and needed to speak up and force people to take her seriously (which, ironically, typically results in the opposite). shiv's overarching goal is power, but her immediate necessity is always respect. her dignity is her number one priority at any given moment, even when it shouldn't be, even when it stops her from attaining the success and power she wants. i can kind of understand shiv going against kendall because of this -- she's always had a very, very narrow lens whenever she feels like she's being disrespected, and even though it is infinitely more humiliating for your (somewhat ex) husband to betray you and boot you out of the CEO position behind your back at the behest of your supposed closest ally (and for you to still vote for them after that!!!) than it is for you to magnanimously allow your brother to be CEO (which would publicly be seen as a choice, as telly etc said - sibs need to stand united behind one chosen CEO - rather than shiv being out of the loop and fucked to infinity), the narrowness of her vision upon seeing kendall about to win makes it impossible for her to think about that legitimately. it's not just jealousy, it's indignity: shiv feels she earned CEO through her machinations with mattson and feels genuinely sick seeing the loganified kendall grinning at the head of the table, hearing his "that's fucking right" and witnessing his cocky entitlement to the job that belonged to her. so, she does what she always does when she feels disrespected, when she feels her dignity is at stake, and impulsively blows everything to fuck, including her own best interests. that makes sense for shiv, at least somewhat -- i still think that as much as she wouldn't want ken as CEO she'd feel like at least w that outcome she'd be seen as a player and a deciding factor, whereas with mattson/tom she'd be viewed as a pathetic fucked-over nothing woman pawn etc (a situation of unparalleled indignity imo), but i can rationalize her choice to go against ken anyways as being part of the narrowed field of vision she always gets upon feeling disrespected by men in her life that makes it impossible for her to think strategically (and i guess even though the disrespect was greater and more humiliating from tom/mattson than ken, ken was the most recent most present and most lifelong source so that's all she could focus on; seeing him like logan was too much to bear). it's hard to imagine shiv publicly throwing her vote behind two men who publicly fucked her as humiliatingly as mattson and tom just did, even if the other option is kendall, but i think that's part of it -- it's fundamentally illogical, even from her disrespect-lens, because there's just something about kendall specifically being in charge that she's never been able to stomach. it's visceral and impulsive. it's not meant to make "sense." it's just what she feels she has to do to preserve her own dignity, even though it works directly against those same interests realistically. it wasn't executed very well, making it hard to entirely buy it given just how publicly humiliating the alternative is, but it can still be chalked up to her historically one-track-mind when it comes to indignity by the hands of kendall in particular. it's a last-ditch attempt for shiv to at least feel like she's maintaining her dignity, her self-respect, as counterintuitive as it actually is. it makes sense. i can stomach it.

again, shiv's fatal flaw (in logan's eyes and aside from her original sin of being a woman) has always, always been her inability to shut up and make the smart move in situations where she feels she's being disrespected or not taken seriously. if shiv stayed quiet during that dinner with the pierces, maybe she would've been logan's CEO, but no, she couldn't stop herself, she needed to feel she was being taken seriously, she burst out 'cmon, dad, just tell them it's going to be me.' she is unable to play it smart, to keep quiet, to win when winning means perceived disrespect. she's allergic to it. even on a personal level, she shoots herself in the foot constantly because of this: she is unable to let herself have the things she wants because she can't put herself in positions that open her up to disrespect and perceived inferiority. she can't be vulnerable because she needs to be respected. tom asks her if he could 'try to make love to her' in episode one of this season, and even though she clearly wants to, she says 'no, i don't think so, tom.' tom tells her he 'wants her, wants this' back in episode six, and even though she clearly wants that too, she draws back and says 'well then you shouldn't have betrayed me.' shiv is fundamentally incapable of allowing herself to remain in possibly advantageous situations when she feels at risk of being seen as lesser, of being disrespected, of being perceived as weak. that is her response to patriarchy. when patriarchal forces bear down, shiv is unable to grin and bare it -- she has a short fuse, a sharp tongue, and an inability to entertain even a second of being treated like The Woman, of being looked down upon, especially when it's for her gender. it's the one thing she cannot do, cannot let herself do, and it's why she fails to "win" over and over and over again. she shoots herself in the foot the second her patriarchy disrespect sensors tingle. she makes the wrong choice, the dumb choice, the one that makes her feel like she stood up for herself in the moment but ends up leaving her powerless and helpless in the end. that's the only explanation for why she chose to vote against kendall (the clearly better option for her long-term as she'd 1) be respected as part of the decision, as someone who helped choose the CEO rather than a Woman who got fucked over and had the door slammed in her face by her husband and close ally simply because she possessed a womb, and 2) probably be head of ATN or some other area of waystar, she'd have actual power within the company and be respected as a legitimate source of power rather than the CEO-to-be made CEO's humiliated wife -- if she was capable of making the smart, selfish choice in terms of power instead of having a hair-trigger reaction to gendered disrespect and cocky male superiority, she would have voted kendall. but she is not capable of doing that. she never has been. so she voted tom and mattson.

so what i still cannot for the life of me understand is what would compel this shiv, the one who cannot stomach indignity even when power's on the line, to immediately return to tom's side the second he beckons her, which is like five minutes after he becomes CEO (the job she was promised) by mattson (who gave it to tom instead of shiv because 'why get the baby lady if i can get the man who put the baby inside her?'). it makes perfect, cruel, devastating sense from a show perspective, and that's what most people are talking about, understandably. it's a devastating yet unavoidable, inevitable outcome. she's left with no other choice once she makes the decision against kendall, and patriarchy compels her to play the good wife to stay close to power. except, like... she does still have a choice. she does not have to go back to tom's car. she does not have to sit patiently waiting for him. she does not have to quietly congratulate him on his victory. she does not have to place her hand in his. these are all choices she made very voluntary. they're choices between maintaining her dignity and self-respect at the cost of future power versus maintaining the potential for future power at the cost of her dignity and self-respect -- the classic siobhan roy conundrum. she's been faced with it time and time again (even just five minutes prior with kendall) and she has never, not once, chosen the latter of her own volition. she hasn't been able to. that's her fatal flaw. maybe i could stomach her going back to tom if she didn't congratulate him, didn't place her hand in his when he expectantly held his out -- then some dignity would be preserved, maybe. but her complete and total submission for the sake of future power does not make sense with her lifelong inability to do just that. it makes sense that this would be her eventual endpoint, but we have seen nothing that implies shiv would so willingly subject herself to this feminine submission of wife and mother before person or source of power, to the complete and utter humiliation of being the quiet wife at the side of the man who knifed her in the back (and notably handed said knife by the man she thought her closest ally) in order to steal the job she fought for her entire life and, in her opinion, had earned. maybe she would come back to him eventually, for love or (more likely) for power, but it is incredibly hard to believe that shiv 'impulsive when faced with indignity' roy would be capable of immediately and publicly playing the role of the good wife after such intense and public humiliation at the hands of her husband.

really, the way i feel about the shiv ending is similar to how i feel about the daenerys ending -- unlike most people, i really wasn't that against the daenerys outcome. i thought it made a lot of sense and was interesting, devastating, and fascinating. i thought there had been a few signs all along and that that ending for her would make sense and be far more interesting than a Hooray ! Girlboss ! ending. however, it was poorly executed -- it was rushed. it did not make sense from where daenerys was at that point in the text. it could've worked, it could've worked brilliantly, but it needed more time to build and fester in order for her ultimate turn to feel earned rather than forced for the sake of the point the writers wanted to make. that's kind of how i feel about shiv. i get the ending and i don't think it's inherently bad or misogynistic or anything, but it feels like the writers saw the possibility for a shiv 'mommed' ending and immediately took it, with little regard to what actually made sense for shiv herself to do in that moment. outcome > character. that's frustrating for me particularly for succession because my like number one reason for adoring succession as much as i do is their consistent refusal to operate the way most media does (using the characters as instruments to achieve the plot/outcome the writers want), instead prioritizing following the characters themselves in a way that feels honest and real. it's character-driven, not plot or ending driven. i think that this fell by the wayside a few times in the latter half of this season simply because there was so much that needed to happen in such a short space of time (especially during the finale), but in my opinion, at least, the most egregious case is shiv. given more time, more development, more build-up, the last shot of her hand in tom's would've struck the chord the writers wanted it to -- and for some people, it did anyways! but for me, it rang out and fell nauseatingly flat. it felt hollow and wrong and unearned. shiv could end up becoming her mother, that feels entirely possible, but not in this particular sense, not yet. in what world would siobhan roy willingly choose to be seen as nothing more than a woman hanging off her husband's arm, especially when said husband had publicly humiliated her and ruined her entire life just five minutes prior? when, just five (metaphorical) minutes prior, she was the one poised to be CEO and everyone knew it? when now everyone will see her on tom's arm and whisper and gawk? she has become her worst fear, yes, but unlike kendall, it does not feel earned. it does not feel like she has actually become her worst fear. it feels like the show forced her to. not patriarchy or the situation or her own desire for power, but the show itself. that's what feels so shitty.

i wouldn't necessarily call the writing misogynistic as a result of this, as it's less a flaw of misogyny and more a flaw of bad, rushed writing that could happen to any character. it's the same as with daenerys -- although (somewhat unlike succession) there were many, many aspects of GoT's writing that were deeply misogynistic, especially in the last season (just look at fucking brienne), the core issue with the daenerys plotline is not one of misogyny but of time. they did not give daenerys the time needed to become the version of herself seen burning down the city. that could've easily been a focus of previous episodes, but it wasn't. they simply did not develop her enough for that turn to make sense yet. it could make sense, hypothetically, at some point down the line, but at that point it felt sudden, off-putting, and wrong. shiv could easily become her mother. that's been made evident especially regarding her relationship to pregnancy/children, love, and vulnerability (or the lack thereof). but for this ending to make sense, we would have needed to see signs of shiv imitating her mother's willingness to be relegated to the sidelines, to bring out the food while the men eat and make deals, in order to remain tangential to power. that is a concession shiv roy had never been willing to make prior to the last five minutes of the entire show. other signs of shiv imitating caroline or falling prey to patriarchal norms throughout the show are not enough to undo shiv's fundamental refusal to weather gender-related indignity even when doing so would benefit her. in my opinion, that's why the final five minutes of shiv's plotline were so unsatisfying.

shiv could become her mother, and her ending could be a devastating portrayal of the inability for even rich white women to escape their original sin of being a woman in a man's world, as well as a dark, ironic criticism of both women like shiv and the patriarchal world that breeds them into existence. but because the show did not develop shiv in this particular direction and because her entire character thus far has been defined by her self-destructive insistence on being respected at all costs, shiv's ending did not land the way it could've, or should've.

#WOOF okay this was long. not even gonna read it over bc if i do i'll never stop editing to it or adding to it and god knows no one needs tht #so if it's shit well. forgive me #but yeah this is just my take. i felt really unhappy w shiv's ending but didn't quite know why because the ending itself i can imagine bein #fine with but really i just feel very frustrated by the show writing over any agency she would normally have had in order to make their #point by the time the episode ended #honestly the more i think about it the more i feel this season should've had more episodes -- i think another season after this one would b #GREAT for me personally obviously but unnecessary for the show itself and possibly too much of a good thing #but at the same time the latter half of this season could really have benefitted from a little wiggle room and space to develop #so it wasn't just Sudden Mattson Likes Tom or Wait Did Mencken Disappear or Remember Roman's Sexuality or SHIV FUCKING SHIIIIV lolllll #ok. this is too long. post #succession #succession spoilers #long post #and i mean LONG #should i do a read more? i never know what the like courtesy is lmao #well . yall asked for it so here u go #shiv roy #succession meta #i guess #edit i did a read more this is disgusting LOLOL #100 #casey shut the fuck up about shiv roy

[spaciebabie]

#thanks for the dm dana sjfdhsjdfs #genuinely like all the fatigue of the past few months hit all at once this morning and when im overly stressed my mental health #gets bad. like really really bad #it was nice 2 laugh abt something ridiculous ajkhjkdfsdh #fnaf #spacie scribbles #at first this was gonna be springtrap talking 2 me but it makes more sense if its you lmaoksjdfkslfdj #i dont remember what your sona looks like forgive me 😭 #and i didnt wanna dig something up for this shitpost so #i shuld learn 2 draw gore so that when i feel really bad like this i can draw characters getting hurt #genuinely think that would make me feel better #well. ig ik what imma be spending the rest of tonight doing #imagine being such a pathetic old decrepit creature that a couple plastic balls are all it takes ta destroy you #i could beat his ass. its canonically possible for me ta beat his ass #i wouldnt even hafta try that hard #buddy. you're DONE #also his hips..... #damn #thighs are a weakness of mine like dude. #look at his shit bro. this is fucking ludicrous #the way his stance is #auuugh #sickening

[juneviews]

no, actually my least favorite thing about watching thai dramas while speaking & understanding thai... is that the dialects never match up 😭😭😭 if a character is from a non-central province, they'll have their whole family speak in northern/southern/isaan dialect while the main character, who's played by an actor from bangkok, will unexplainably not have any remnants of his native dialect when he speaks even though he was born & raised in the area and often time never even left... that shit breaks the fourth wall to me, like... why even hire an actor who doesn't fit the role fully, I don't get it 😭

#axelle rants #i told sunset about you #to be continued #I'm too lazy to tag ALMOST EVERY SHOW THAT TAKES PLACE OUT OF BKK #I adore itsay but this is literally its only AND biggest flaw in my eyes bc why the fuck is teh only breaking into southern dialect - #- for shits & giggles when he was born in phuket and lived there his whole life like WUT #same for oh-aew the dude never speaks southern dialect at all it makes ZERO sense #but teh's mom tarn & SOME of the friends speak correctly... it's so jarring #there's only 3 types of shows that have avoided this #1) to me it's simply you where nadech's character speaks both isaan dialect & central dialect as a way to show us that his character is - #- ashamed of his roots & then gradually accepts them. it's well done imo #2) isaan shows with an entirely isaan cast & crew like siew sum noi and nah harn... which is why I love isaan shows sm #3) I believe 1000 stars did this well? unless earth's character is supposed to be northern which in that case nevermind #HOWEVER bkpp MADE itsay so I'm willing to forgive the fact that they can't speak southern dialect even though it takes me out of the show #axelle learns thai

[blinkpen]

having long ago made the executive decision to sublimate MUCH more of my rage over all the ways my body identity and personhood have been violated over the course of my life on levels both mental physical domestic and systemic into my writing by the way

#this does not mean we will be Seeing things on screen we don't need to #just that i am going to crank the dial and how much harrowingly visceral information can be conveyed -without- actually doing that #good horror will make a frame with seemingly nothing going on the scariest shit ever bc you Know. you cant see. but you Know. #the tragedy of 'my schizophrenia did not disable me but the PTSD from how i've been treated and taken advantage of bc of it DID' #'and SO MUCH of the WORST trauma was inflicted in the name of Fixing me (be it the mental illness or my gayness or my being a girl wrong) #and a lot of other things really but this is at the forfront of my mind as i finally finish recovering from a lot of repressed shit finally #boiling over to dangerously lethal levels last year and my entire brain just Imploded lmao #i dont know when i'll be able to really forgive my family for refusing to vaccinate or distance and transmitting covid to me twice #resulting in seizures and brain damage the second time #which basically hit a reset button on how well i could manage my pre-existing schizophrenic symptoms and damaged my cognition #i've had to mourn losing a big chunk of my own mind's ability to function focus or even remain anchored in reality because of that #oh yeah the transphobia my family still refuses to work on that and it also contributed heavily to the system shattering so bad #i finally realized that it even existed #some of the alters now have mutually exclusive genders and orientations presumably as weird coping mechanism

[seaweedstarshine]

Okay so The Star Beast was fun and I'm hyped for Wild Blue Yonder and everything but I am shattered over the new episode of Eleventh Doctor Chronicles.

Broken Hearts is some of the best dark!Doctor Expanded Universe exploration I ever consumed, and that includes The Eleventh Doctor Year Two comics. I am sobbing. I am in tears. I am broken as thoroughly as the Doctor broke Valerie Lockwood.

Me when I can't find any Broken Hearts/Curiosity Shop stan posts to reblog or fic to read to get out the angsty energy...

(fic. I'm writing fic. and yes this is an open request for reading recs)

#'you can't be scared of me' 'YOU JUST SAID ITS TAKEN YOU CENTURIES OF PRACTICE NOT TO BE MURDERY! SO SCARED OF YOU? A LITTLE BIT- YEAH!' #that's my Valerie. that's my Doctor. one of the best tardis teams- audio dramas or otherwise #Valarie lockwood #eleventh doctor #eleventh doctor chronicles #where my Eleventh Doctor Chronicles peeps at?? someone help me #(I mean. im at work. but I can't stop thinking abt it since I listened. AND THERES NO BROKEN HEARTS STAN POSTS TO RB) #words by seaweed #btw I understand them not bein as popular/mainstream! they're prohibitively expensive #I bought this one because I couldn't wait. and big finish deserves more $ than bbc but I... have pirated maaaany doctor who audios #I love how horrible eleven is in his EU stuff. idk if I mentioned. it suits him really well. #he's horrible in the show too. but he doesn't get enough shit for it from his companions <3 #love Rory and River for their service buuuuut #Alice and Valerie are better than Amy and Clara sorry #(I do love Amy and Clara to DEATH) #that said Alice also forgives him reeeally easily. which is fine! but the fact that she 'trusts him implicitly' in year 3 is irrational. #at least with Valerie the Doctor had excuse of having been recovering from brain damage. #anyway eleventh doctor chronicles broken hearts is great and flawless and the perfect followup to curiosity shop

[literallyneurodivergentandaminor]

so people are loving my tumblr design choice (the fucking checkmark shades)

so i made this emoji for yall fuckers to enjoy

use it in ur fucking discord servers and whatever u want just credit my ass ♡ it is also already in use at the socialstuck server @crocker made go check it out RIGHT NOW!!!!!

tumblr design inspired by @zzoupz, @deathbars & @vincepti0n

#socialstuck #twitblr ruined me #yahoo forgive me for stucking the socials #websitebent #i saw someone use that tag so #fandomstuck #fandomstuck^2 #gijinka #twitblr #well not even really twitblr but its the guy from the twitblr shit so

[the-deadlock-south]

good morning yeehan community

#overwatch #overwatch 2 #cole cassidy #yeehan #art tag #im lying it's like six o'clock it's well in the evening now #also i finally drew OW2 cass :) idk if ill ever get used to everyone getting thicker beards but ig i have four months until OW2's launch so #BUT ANYWAY i've been MIA from the internet and i'm only just now learning there are charms in OW2??? and cass gets hanzo's lil bottle??? #OW really gotta step it up after the #wait who were the gays that got confirmed recently #yeah them anyway OW really better step it up after THEM this aint enough but i guess its a start #this shit been going on for six years if yall dont just jump right into the bush and stop tiptoeing around it im losing my mind #i was gonna draw a mini comic of cass just being a dork and hanzo being Himself but i have a pounding headache #plus i really havent been in the drawing mood as of late however i felt a responsibility to at least doodle something with this #anyway hanzo thinks its stupid and says so In Hanzo Fashion but cass knows better #hanzo's always had a funny way of saying he loves something Is What Cass Is Telling Himself #there's a junkenstein joke here #idk theres a lot of potential with this dinky little charm but Again. Head Hurts #also hence the very sketchy and I Dont Give A Shit RN nature of this scribble #so forgive me everyone i can only give something subpar #i hope someone does better than me #but for now im gonna go lay down or something- maybe have dinner #my head's REALLY killing me

[konfizry]

no because you see actually the fact that zelos hates kratos' guts is by far my favorite aspect of zelos. like like the whole betrayal thing and whatnot, honestly, can't relate man, sorry about what happened to you i guess buddy but personally i dont care i just dont

but then back when i found out through finally playing his route + watching tof2 tls that the guy will diss kratos at any given occasion i was taken with renewed appreciation for him. its just too good. (and actually, there are signs of it even before that. like when you run into kratos in sybak and supposedly zelos doesnt know him at all but he still takes a moment to loudly go "omg fuck this guyyyyy" once kratos has left the scene and it's just ertghrteguhireg. zelos actually makes a couple more efforts to have lloyd trust kratos as little as possible. meanwhile theres that character skit in the flanoir area where kratos warns lloyd that there may be "someone in his group with ill intentions be careful no i won't elaborate bye" or whatever. all while k and z are presumably routinely in voice chat arguing over kratos' ridiculous grocery list. what a mess. both of them.) i unironically love it fr. i think it both makes perfect sense from a character perspective, and is hilarious. also it's nice to have one dude be openly hostile towards kratos. what can i say, i live for drama.

so anyway im glad we can all agree that the iselia ranch is a missed opportunity for an absolute train wreck of a skit that should have have happened but didnt.

#it's the one time they can be together come onnnn. where is my one-sided magical swordsman cat fight :((( #tales of symphonia spoilers #kratos is my fave and i love it when he gets dunked on hes a stupid hoe and i thank zelos for his efforts in reminding everyone of that fac #also i cannot for the life of me forget how #colette's flanoir scene is her telling lloyd how amazing kratos is #zelos' heimdall scene is him telling lloyd how much of a fuck up kratos is #and in both instances lloyd seems to have a more positive opinion of kratos afterwards #zelos i dont think you're very good at this #(SAME SHIT HAPPENS IN TOF2 IIRC. zelos starts digging up dirt on kratos. lloyd pries answers out of kratos. kratos explains. #“wow kratos thank you so much for everything you've done for us” #drghdsgtfudsg if i were zelos i'd be fuming. i'd betray the group again over this #(to be fair i think they (colette especially?) do thank zelos for all his behind-the-scenes work as well. but still)) #(kon it's been three days why are you still thinking about this) #kratos is where dismissive/manipulative parental figure and betrayal-generated guilt collide #for zelos #for the sake of his own sanity he cannot see kratos get away with (or worse; obtain forgiveness for) any of this shit IT CANT HAPPEN

[gothoffspring]

Impromptu casual date at the whiskey tango foxtrot, which is where these two met (and monica still bartends sometimes)! Riley will take any and every chance he can to practice his.... interesting stand up routines. This latest joke is definitely about how he got drunk, ended up in a fugue state and saw a unicorn. It sounds way better in my head when Riley says it okay.

If Monica can see this man, in his weed bandana, telling questionable jokes and still love him, WE HAVE A WINNER FOLKS! 💚

#ts4 #the sims 4 #ts4 edit #ts4 gameplay #ts4 legacy #the sims 4 legacy #the sims 4 gameplay #riley burns #monica burns #living a nightmare #living a nightmare g1 #i havent taken gameplay photos in literally so long im a lil rusty #forgive me #but im having so much fun! #im not stressing or worrying about taking photos of shit im just gonna keep playing and post what i do capture #i love them together so much #monica got a makeover ill show her off as soon as she moves in <3 #i love riley burns with MY ENTIRE HEART AND SOUL #my boy! #hes one of my fave oc's ever i am not going to handle his death well #which is gonna happen soon at the rate im going SOBS

[bowser14456]

I was today years old (a couple days ago) when I learned that "We'll Meet Again" from Gravity Falls is actually by Frank Sinatra and it's not a song that Alex made up.

#personal shit #i wasn't alive when frank sinatra was a thing forgive me #gf #well he died when i was little so #gravity falls

[itspileofgoodthings]

Nina and I are unfortunately like dynamite and gunpowder. something happens and we’re just like oh yeah? You wanna go? Let’s go! Meet me in the ring bitch!

#part of our power is the insane SPEED and then reconciliation of our fights #we forgive and communicate as fast as we fight #but there is no one in the world who makes me just SAY the shit I shouldn’t say than her #like she just. she herself is so fast and so blunt and so ruthless and so bullying and so LOUD #that it fires me right up and it’s like okay well FINE the gloves are off #but then it makes me anxious after like. did I say something TOO hurtful #Nina and I always joke we have the RANGE #because for all of my we’re the struggling married couple of sisters #we also have times where the fun and exchange of ideas is flowing #and this ability to say and hear things to/from each other that most people don’t/can’t? #like. the level of rock-solid trust is SO high. but equally high is our wildly differing personalities and worldview #so there isn’t anything quite like it and it can be confusing from the outside #like I HAVE to meet her in the parking lot because she’ll be being the WORST #but also she thinks I am being the worst #but anyway I do hate when a fight seems like NEW territory #and then I always worry that I have done irreversible damage #I can hear Nina in my head mocking that very idea because she is so tough #and mocking the anxiety of me being like nothing can ever be okay again #but life and certain subjects have been traumatizing in the past year #so idk what is safe exactly right now #I am FULLY rambling and having a million thoughts at once #but yeah #SORRY FOR SWEARING #twice

[crystalkleure]

Characters who are intentionally written to be horrible little bastard goblins: ✔️ Hilarious

Characters who are supposed to be viewed as being A Good Person in spite of them continuously doing horrible asshole things that would make any reasonable person fucking punch them IRL: ❌ Infuriating

#.It speaks #About me yo #I HATE THAT SECOND THING SO MUCH #INTENTIONAL ASSHOLES MY BELOVED. UNINTENTIONAL ASSHOLES MY BELOATHED. #The Goody Two Shoes Good Guy Protag @ their sad friend: ''Hey buddy! I am going to shame you for Not Being Happy!'' #''Don't you understand that that's rude to all of your friends? You're killing all of our vibes! It Is Morally Bad To Be Visibly Sad!'' #All of the other characters: ''Yeah!! What protag said!! We love you and forgive you @ Sad Guy but you need to stop being sad Right Now!'' #And Everybody Claps #Literal worst thing in the world. #Like it is DRAMATICALLY DIFFERENT if the protag doing something like this has ACTUAL ACCURATE CONSEQUENCES #Like. Say. Sad Guy bottling too much up for too long and then eventually finally exploding in protag's face. #[And NOT being portrayed as Evil for doing so. Might be SEEN as evil by the protag but Is Not Narratively The Bad Guy For It.] #THAT does not bother me. Fuck yeah Sad Guy tell the emotionally abusive fuck and all their flying monkeys to eat shit. #BUT IF THE LITERAL ABUSED CHARACTER TRYING TO STAND UP FOR THEMSELF MAKES THEM THE VILLAIN OF THE WEEK/SEASON I'M MAD #You know? #Protag who THINKS they are Morally Infallible but is actually perfectly human and wrong/does bad shit sometimes: ✔️✔️✔️ #Protag who is a total penis and their dickheadery WINS every time it causes conflict; the /conflict/ is portrayed as unreasonable: ❌❌❌ #If you know me really well you can probably guess which specific two characters I am talking about #I hate both of those little bastards so much

[youngpettyqueen]

im gonna be unreasonable about Julian having the Klingon chef actually make their lunches rather than just getting the food from the replicators

#star trek: ds9 #a stitch in time #julian bashir #elim garak #otp: I need to know that someone forgives me #this is ABSOLUTELY something he picked up from Sisko #I dont think Julian can cook for shit and I think he knows that so he goes to the Klingon chef #to make one of Garak's favourites #and for himself of course #even knowing that the Klingon chef doesnt make HIS choice- chips- very well #just. he could've gone to the replicator and it would've been fine #but Sisko's influence. knowing the value of a hand-cooked meal #the extra bit of effort #and probably money- I imagine he had to pay for it #he's trying so hard #im in my feelings

[fluffypotatey]

While i do think shadowpeach never actually fell out of love despite everything (well at least macaque definitely) , what do you think their reaction would be when they realized they no longer loved the other? Cause i do feel a small part of them would feel grief about something they had and treasured for so long

And to keep from being too sad, what is their reaction at inevitably falling back in love. That i think would involved lots of cursing at the gods and tearing out hair

anon, i just want to let you know that i did prepare an answer for you, and it was a lengthy one as well. but last night the internet for my house wasn’t working, so when i hit post, my screen froze and couldn’t refresh until this morning, making me lose everything i wrote T^T BUT! i will do my best to reanswer this to the best of my abilities (and it was a good fucking answer too 🫠)

thus:

so, ignoring my gut reaction (which is me shouting, “impossible! those monkeys are too attached to lose feelings!”) I will consider the following but have my own spin to it! meaning, that while both believe they’re live for the other faded away, it in fact was dormant this whole time! (because i am incapable of seeing a world where either or both idiots fall out of love for the other)

also, fun tidbit: both idiots believe the other fell out of love first which then prompts them into trying to ignore and bury their affections bc if “X can easily set aside their centuries old relationship, then so can I!”

with Wukong, the guy has more time to truly process the grief and loss bc he actually has the time and companions to help him out. you have Ao Lie and Wukong cuddling more, Wukong crying to Guanyin (bc their relationship is fun in JTTW and I am still holding out for lmk to give us another cameo or glimpse of her, lmk please—) with her walking Wukong through the grief and his own pain, and parallel play with Tripitaka (the play being Tripitaka mediates while Wukong practices his forms/showing off his forms to his master) as well as Tripitaka providing more insight about grief

with Macky, i can see him starting that grief after his death. so like, post-resurrection either before s1 or at some point during the show (but NOT s3 or 4) like, after the angry and bitterness, Macky feels hollow and believes that to mean he’s lost those old feelings of love. and at this point, Macky would think he’d be relieved because finally! he is rid of Wukong not just as a friend, but also, Wukong’s hold is gone, but it isn’t relief he feels from that realization, but grief and loss. and because he still isn’t emotionally stable and is hell-bent on revenge, he takes that grief and fuels it to his anger for killing Wukong because maybe then the relief will come.

i do think that in s4, Macky was starting to process his own grief and feelings and death in a sort of healthy way, so he might have come to some indifference about Wukong, still believing he has begun to feel nothing for his old friend until he goes into the memory scroll (but he could chalk that up to nostalgia)

anyway, as for rekindling: slow burn 2.0 lmaoooooo

maybe it’s simply because i am a sucker for slow burns, but I highly doubt Sun Wukong and Macky would be able to go back to being lovers or whatever they had going on pre-war on Heaven because they’re fucking stupid when it comes to actually interacting with each other. communication who???? they don’t know her!!! catch them falling into old habits without knowing but never acknowledging it and leading to confused feelings 💅✨

also, s5 please let them be petty exes to each other!!! petty as in minor offenses, as in one of them stole the other’s clothes and is lying to the guy’s face whilst wearing said stolen clothes. they should go from “ugh, i guess we can work together……for MK” to “ugh, fuck not again!!!” to “I know they only see me as an acquaintance/ally for MK, but I have started to see them once again as someone I want to hold forever and why am I pining for this idiot again I should know better—”

in conclusion, i cheated and gave myself a win-win scenario with your question. but reactions to realizing the fell out of love: Wukong’s would be one where he tries to isolate but his friend never allow him to, and Macky is one with angry screaming bc he’s sO stable.

#happy and pleased i still have a lengthy and well-thought answer 🤧 #anon i am so sorry my previous answer is gone forever T^T it had more shouting and me being restrained by my judge #alas #also y’all anon’s love giving me the most antiestrés shadowpeach shit #not mad at all #just perplexed #you kill Wukong ONE time in your fics #but it was fun :3 #lmk #shadowpeach #lmk sun wukong #lmk six eared macaque #forgive me for any typos I wrote this in my car

[perenlop]

so funny when i bitch about my brother doing something genuinely horrible and the nt people around are all like “what the fuck…….. how could you get mad at this autistic man………. what if he cant help all the misogyny, did you ever think of that……….. how could you, you must resent him for his autism, i hope you get better soon” and then the actual autistic people around me are like “wow hope that guy dies”

#no joke apparently my dad thinks i have deeply internalized ableism and im in rage that i had to grow up with autistic family #and thats why i hate my brother. when like…. first of all i get along with my other autistic brother just fine. because he’s chill #second of all i got undiagnosed autism but he doesnt know that so. third of all i’ve reiterated time and time again its bc of how he treated #how he treated me growing up as well as what hes done to other people (women) #and in fact i try to be as fair as i can given the circumstances bc i know social awkwardness absolutely intersects with his nastiness somet #sometimes #and i do sympathize with him to an extent for all the ableist treatment he got as a diagnosed kid #like. i dont envy him he truly went through some god awful shit as a kid #but also like…….. he proudly fucked me over time and time again and reiterates that hes proud of that #this guy threw around his power over me pretty frequently and took whatever chance he had to throw me under the bus and belittle me #forgive me for saying but…. i dont think thats an autism thing! i think thats a ‘’shitty human being’’ thing! #dl

[simcardiac-arrested]

as a russian who doesn't talk to russian people online what the shit is happening there hello

look man i myself have put in the effort to Not talk to online russians for like (checks hand) 7 or so years (of course i’ve met some really great ones but this isn’t about them and they probably know it) but i’m sure the community didn’t change much. actually from the glimpses i see it seems to have gotten worse. don’t even get me startedddddd man

#Like okay first we have the misogynist dudebros. not a category exclusive to online russians but #there are so many it’s fucking crazy. homophobic to hell and back and Will hate on you for no reason #alpha male type mfs who hate women but will still harass them because of course they will #the second category of course is weird unironic fujoshis who are also usually proshippers #and they are either 12 (forgivable) or 25 and the thing is you can NEVER tell. But it’s kind of fucked how #acceptable it is to just straight up fetishize gay men (hell probably not only them) in online russian communities #and listen to me. the secret third category is that there is no third category. Both of these categories are racist #deer was right i have never seen a community more racist or xenophobic than fucking online russians #you draw a character one shade darker than their usual skintone and suddenly you got annoying as fuck russians in your comments going #BRO BURNT IN THE SUNNN 🤣🤣🤣 ENGLISH FANDOM LOOK WHAT YOU’VE DONE !!! <- in recent times they have taken to blaming the english fandom for #‘wokefying’ their sacred online russian spaces. Of course we can only be woke enough to fetishize gay men. god forbid black people exist #now the actual third category is the online russian tеrf/radfеm community. it seems recent to me but also as i said i have not really #interacted with russian comminity as a whole for a long while. But yea anyways they’re crazy i dont think i have to explain this one #but they’re somehow more evil and miserable than the ones you’re used to #another recent one is the russian twitterians … i’ve only seen glimpses of them as well as i dont use twitter #but you will not believe the shit these mfs try to pull. They try to get you to stop swearing at all bc they find a way to make every #russian swear word offensive. AND they speak fucking … englussian. rusglish. Half of their sentences are just english words written in #russian letters. all the same buzzwords english speaking twitter users like to say! #if you’ve never seen a russian talk about feminization or gatekeeping or being woke or yadda yadda. Well i have #it’s bad. they’re just very very terminally online #and don’t worry the last two categories will also always be racist/xenophobic even if the last one tries to seem Progressive #don’t know if i missed anytning but those are just the Specific Types of annoying asf online russians that i have noticed and have been #observing from a safe distance like a scientist #my point is keep not talking to russian people #cramswering #edit: I FORGOT BUT DONT EVEN GET ME STARTED ON HOW ONLINE RUSSIANS TREAT TRANS PEOPLE #YOU CANNOT IMAGINE THE WAY THEY REACT TO TRANS HEADCANONS IT’S LIKE THE END OF THE WORLD TO THEM. OR TRANS CHARACTERS #OR GOD FORBID ACTUAL REAL LIFE TRANS PEOPLE. it’s actually quite incredible how bigoted online russians are