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miceeonvenus · 2 years

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c!Wilbur's story is almost over? What are you talking about, Tommy just secured L'manburg's independence and Wilbur became the president!

#i watched all of blueberrytvs early lmanburg episodes #icys art #dream smp #l'manburg #tommyinnit #wilbur soot #tubbo #fundy #eret #crime boys #voidtag d #sapnap

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miceeonvenus · 2 years

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Wilbur believing that the last thing Dream could hold over Tommy was the discs kept bothering me during the stream. I think it makes sense that Wilbur thinks this yet he's objectively wrong. While the discs are something Dream could use to keep power over Tommy, he can also use Tommy's other attachments and his plain obsession with Tommy.

Tommy is attached to his discs, though he is attached to the people he cares for, such as Wilbur and Tubbo, moreso. Wilbur having Dream burn the decoy discs takes away one attachment, but Tommy has always chose people above those discs. These people are still alive and Dream can always get to them.

Dream is also just plain obsessed with Tommy. I don't have the exact quote, but I know he's said Tommy is too fun to not mess with. To Dream, Tommy is just a plaything, and he's the best plaything on the server to be exact. As long as Dream is alive he can find away to hurt Tommy because of this, even when Tommy is dead.

I think the only time we've properly seen Dream without most of this power is at the end of the Disc Confrontation when Tommy was killing him with the Axe of Peace. Tommy and Tubbo have secured the discs in an enderchest, there was a multitude of people there to witness what was happening and protect them, and Dream has been stripped of all weapons, armour, and other items. Tommy has put himself above a plaything for Dream because he can protect all of his attachments and he can now fight and *win* against Dream. Though we see that Dream still holds some power because he has the revive book. He still holds one attachment above Tommy, and that attachment is Wilbur. Dream continues to secure some sort of power because in the prison, he still has the revive book, Wilbur is still dead, and Tommy has nothing to fight against Dream but his bare fists while he's in there.

Wilbur is so caught up in this inherently selfish mission of rescuing Tommy from Dream that he can't see that he really hasn't. Tommy can't truely be safe from Dream unless Dream is dead. But Wilbur doesn't see that and he only holds himself and the discs above Dream. He threatens to kill himself to keep some power above Dream and has Dream burn the decoy discs to trick him into believing he's lost that power. This works in the moment because no matter how strategic Dream is, he's still human and he's blinded by emotion here. Dream decides it is better to lose a bit of ego and say L'manberg was a sovereign nation than it is to lose the power he holds above and through Wilbur, but then he must choose between holding power through Wilbur or the discs and he ultimately chooses to keep Wilbur alive. Wilbur thinks that Dream can only use the discs against Tommy and Wilbur against, well, Wilbur, but he fails to see that he can still be used against Tommy. In the moment Dream can't because Wilbur is threatening to kill himself, but I don't doubt that Dream will manage to find away around that later in time, with a clear part of the solution being the revive book.

To put this all simply, Wilbur has created a temporary solution. In the moment he has taken Dream down a peg by having him destroy "the discs", but he has failed to completely eliminate the problem because Dream still has supplies, armour, and weapons to fight. He can still reach the people Tommy cares about, and he he still has the revive book. Dream is still alive and therefore can still get to Tommy. Wilbur did this to "save" Tommy, but he really hasn't solved anything and hasn't properly made Tommy feel better.

I apologize if this makes no sense because as I wrote this I kept having to pause to write down other thoughts before I forgot. And I think this is the first proper analysis I’m posting so 👍

#maybe i will write about how cwilbur was selfish during this stream bc i kept mentioning that while writing this #but i also edited most of the mentions out bc i couldnt figure out how to elaborate w/o getting way off topic #anyways i still like cwilbur #i just kept thinking about hwo he couldnt see the whole picture #a bit of dramatic irony yknow #icy rambles #dream smp #dsmp analysis #icys analysis #tommyinnit #wilbur soot #voidtag d #crime boys #prime boys

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miceeonvenus · 2 years

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BOY WHERE IS THE VIDEO

#icy rambles #voidtag d

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miceeonvenus · 2 years

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Sketch page I did mostly while watching Foolish's lore stream!!

#icys art #dream smp #tommyinnit #tubbo #clingy duo #voidtag d #prime boys #foolish gamers #dream xd #drista #tw violence #tw death #<- for the prime boys comic

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miceeonvenus · 2 years

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My insane ramblings from the Wilbur stream:

HOLY CRAP C!TOMMY THAT'S C!TOMMY IT'S CRIMEBOYS TIME

PFFFF TOMMY UNDER THE WATER

Tommy just refuses to talk about Fundy's suicide hmmmmmmmm wonder if this reminds him of something

"Uhhh we went on that holiday to the beach." "No." DO YOU HEAR ME SCREAMING

theyre continuing to talk about it hslsjldhlfshlkhd

LOGSTEDSHIRE THEY NAME DROPPED LOGSTEDSHIRE

IS THIS THE TOMMY APOLOGY STREAM ARE WE GETTING THE TOMMY APOLOGY STREAM ARE WE GOING TO LOGSTEDSHIRE???????

HE DOESN"T WANT TO TELL HIM TUBBO EXILED HIM

hes determined it was a holiday ;-;

wilbur wants to talk he wants to get better hes trying to do better he is doing better and hes trying to help tommy be better and feel better and he doesnt want to make him upset so hes giving him a safe word

thyere gonna see the tower theyre

parrallels of crime boys and clingy duo sailing to what is going to be a an upsetting event and joking and havign fun as they sail before it all goes downhill

"its almost as if theres a server operator listening to us" DREAM

my heart is beating so fast my heart is beating out of my chest

HE THINKS THE TOWER IS LIKE A BEACON AOUGUHHHH

WILBUR REMEMBERS GIVING TOMMY THE COMPASS

"Maybe you deserved it" WILBUR WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT

Wilbur fainted when Tommy told him he tried to kill himself...

Why is Wilbur visiting Dream in prison???? How is Dream in prison again??????

"Fond memories!" Bad choice of words Dream... that was a bad choice of words to say to a very angry brother that has tnt

holy shit wilbur

ok ok it was a dream

wilbur really want to kill dream oh this is all i could have asked for

actually no now im scared wilbur is going to die again

am i sensing a server wide event? wilbur wants to draw dream out by alerting the whole server? throught he prison alarms?

wait wasnt dreaming holing up in the prison last we saw him? he was in there messing with sam?

ERYN!!!! ERYN IS ON!!!!!!

WHAT IS CHAT GOING ON ABOUT TECHNO FOR?????? TECHNO LET DREAM OUT LAST I CHECKED

CRIME BOYS DANCING AND SINGING TO CAT TOGETHER THEYRE FINALLY HAVING THE BEACH PARTY IM CRYING

"I don't need armour" YES YOU DO WILBUR

sir why do you need to avoid showing the screen to open your enderchest why aren't the discs put away

tommy talking about listening to blocks with schlatt, fundy, and tubbo fondly :(

"Do you ever miss when things were just simple." Yeah :(

im so scared tommy wont have enough time to leave before dream shows up

im genuinely so scared i cant take this

NO DREAM ON SCREEN I AM SCARED OF DREAM BEING ON SCREEN

tommy is sheilding wilbur from dream OUGH

LITERALLY PUT THAT AXE AWAY DREAM

DREAM BROKE THE PORTAL SHIT SHIT SHIT WILBUR I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO TRICK DREAM BUT YOU DO HAVE A FLINT AND STEEL RIGHT THERE I WISH TOMMY COULD KNOW

I KEEP GETTING ADS AT THE WORST MOMENT ThIS IS THE WORST TJEY ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A CONFRONTATION AN D BAM THREE ADS

WILBUR DONT THREATEN TO KJILL YOURSELF AS POWER OVER DREAM DONT PARALLEL TOMMY DURING THE DISC CONFRONTATION LIK ETHAT

the pain in tommys voice as wilbur tried to kill himself and have tommy's discs burnt

Wilbur was smart in what he did, tricking both Tommy and Dream, but he caused so much panic and pain for Tommy as well but it makes sense! it makes sense

tommy's silent little nod after wilbur tells him to never let Dream know the discs arent gone :(

"You're a good kid Tommy. Thank you for trusting me." ILL CRY ILL DO IT

#i decided to write this all in a blank document as i watched #so it all goes in one post now #anyways im going to thin k about this for forever and ever #icy rambles #dream smp #crime boys #tommyinnit #wilbur soot #voidtag d

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miceeonvenus · 2 years

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If the drace reveal and dnf meet-up happen while I'm sitting with my family for my sister's birthday party I'm going to break something I have been here since summer of 2020 I have not stayed this long through all the different "meet-up" scares just to miss this sorry to my family I love them but-

#icy rambles #voidtag d #georgenotfound

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miceeonvenus · 2 years

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George actually used heatwaves for the moment he met dream in the vlog

#big fan 👍#icy rambles #georgenotfound #voidtag d

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miceeonvenus · 2 years

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People are talking a lot about c!clingy and c!dream on the dash did they announce something about their finale?

#at first i thought just 1 person was talking about it but now im scrolling further down snd there more #icy rambles #dream smp #tommyinnit #tubbo #voidtag d

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