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Someone To You | bl multifandom - Love the song and the shows this video is made up of....check it out!!
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fellas, it's time for a new uquiz!! find out which one of my 12 favorite mains from bls you are <3
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↳ Kissing Underwater
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best of bl 2020 challenge, bonus: favorite kisses
i told sunset about you
why r u
gaya sa pelikula
until we meet again
where your eyes linger
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Giving Good Kiss in BL
From an acting perspective there's a good YouTube video on how to kiss and show chemistry on screen plus analysis of some of Hollywood’s most famous kisses.
But I’m interested in the watcher/critic perspective. So...
Let’s smooch it out.
For the purposes of this discussion I am only going to talk about mouth kissing, (AKA sexual intent romantic partner kissing). I’m not going to delve into forehead kissing (worship, benediction, sacred love) or cheek kissing (familial, affection, filial love).
I think a good kiss (from the viewers perspective) comes down to three things:
emotional resonance (AKA emotional empathy - heart)
physical reactions (AKA sexual resonance - body)
sympathetic execution (AKA intellectual connection - mind)
In other words, the audience needs to feel that the characters
like each emotionally
desire each other physically
are enjoying it (AKA understand each others needs intellectually)
We kinda wrap it all up under the umbrella term "chemistry."
Some BL pairs only gets one or two of the three right. Sometimes only one half of the couple is good at any of it. Sometimes it's a miss-match with one actor good at transmitting emotion and the other physical interest. Sometimes this miss-match is intentional because one character is imposing his will in a dominant fashion. in which case the chemistry of the kiss itself is intentionally askew.
Chemistry involves mental, physical, and emotional comfort levels and transmitting them on screen.
That's why the Taiwanese workshopping techniques are so admirable, whatever they do really helps their actors give good all round chemistry.
Taiwanese BL has its issues but on screen chemistry is NOT one of them. Almost all their pairings are really really good at all three elements. Here’s SamYu from We Best Love workshopping as an example of how to build trust and comfort before kissing scenes. To counter here’s a BTS from Light On Me showing lack of preparation for the final kiss scene. Korea seems to spring kisses on their actors without any effort to get them physically comfortable with each other. You can see why Korean romances (in general) don’t handle kisses well (with a few exceptions, of course).
Types of Smooches
So there are also different kinds of kisses:
THE DEMANDING KISS (seme to uke, most common in BL)
One character is clearly in charge, so there is a power imbalance (many viewers find the imbalance itself sexy) and usually a strong seme/uke dynamic. This is not necessarily an imbalance in desire (although it often is for the first kisses), but in character dominance/submission. Sometimes the kiss is talked about or permission is requested beforehand (DeanPharm in UWMA).
THE MUTUAL KISS
Both characters want to kiss at the same time, no one is in charge. Harder to execute as the actors have to telegraph unspoken communication usually with eye contact, mouth glances, and breath matching (Jeff & Gameplay in Ingredients did a great job at this type of kiss).
A good mutual kiss generally only occurs when characters have a weak seme/uke dynamic and high emotional resonance. It’s awesome in slow burn and friends to lovers romances. Taiwan and Korea are particularly good at this kind of kiss.
THE SUDDEN KISS
One boy darts forward or pulls the other boy into a surprise kiss which can result in a range of responses from:
a willing melt to
a dead fish response (the first kiss in To My Star) to
a push away and mouth wipe to
From an acting perspective this is the easiest kiss to execute. Sometimes it’s the seme who surprises the uke, but more often it’s the uke relenting that causes this kind of kiss. Both come strongly from a yaoi traditions. The shirt collar (or tie grab) and drag forward is particularly popular.
THE LTR KISS (AKA long term relationship kissing)
In this case kissing in general is clearly something done by the characters on the regular. These kinds of kisses reinforce a love and affection already in place, rather than most of the ones I’ve mentioned which are first/early/establishing kisses.
Generally speaking, the acting pair has to be really comfortable with each other to make an LTR kiss work, or insanely good actors. It’s rare in BL because sexualized LTRs are rarely represented at all. TayNew are pretty good at this kind of kiss and also SamYu at the end of both seasons of WBL. Acting pairs who have worked together a while and specialize in high heat are also good at this so: MaxTul and MewGulf. The best ones to execute this plus low heat are BothNewyear in Top Secret Together’s episode 13. They are generally great at all the casual touch comfort of an LTR... for obvious reasons (they are an IRL LTR couple).
THE DEAD FISH KISS
Annoyed fan short-hand for any kiss where the actors fail at all three aspects of chemistry. Sometimes it is entirely understandable (the actors are minors, there has been no workshopping, etc...) but it’s still no fun to watch. Classic examples are PhunNoh in Love Sick and TeeFuse in Make it Right. (MIR even makes a self referential joke about this in Make It Right on the Beach.)
This is the kind of kiss where the actors clearly don’t know what to do and/or are uncomfortable with each other, which makes the audience uncomfortable. Usually, they just press firmly closed lips together and the camera pans out and around to the back of the head. Most of the time it’s not intentional. (Which means the actors are transmitting the wrong kind of emotion to the watcher.) Much as I adore Color Rush, it has this kind of kiss.
Sometimes a dead fish kiss works with the story. The first kisses in To My Star showcase one side of the equation in dead fish mode intentionally. This means that the final kiss, which is very much mutual, has that much more resonance. It was a genius move on Korea’s part.
THE NON-ROMANTIC EMOTIONAL KISS
This is when a kiss is used to transmit some other form of emotion, usually the opposite from normal - desperation, loss, despair, sadness. The kiss is neither romantic nor sexual nor sympathetic. It intentionally contrasts the 3 elements that make up good chemistry by activating chemistry in an opposite direction, so that in the moment of the kiss the characters don’t like, desire, or enjoy each. However, the audience needs to feel that they could, or once had, the initial 3 criteria foundation. From an acting perspective this is very difficult to do. The stairwell reunion kiss in Brokeback Mountain is a good example of a non-romantic emotional kiss.
This kind of kiss is almost never done in BL, or if it is, it’s not done well, because it requires an insane amount of trust between the acting pair and skill from the actor portraying aggressor to maintain audience sympathy. (The other kind of kiss that intentionally avoids the 3 core elements of chemistry is the kind that is a violent act of non-consent.)
The best example of a non-romantic but super emotional kiss is THAT kiss in We Best Love: Fighting Mr. Second and it was (and still is) contentious because the treads the consent line. In my experience of BL so far, only Japan (His is another great example) and Taiwan have ever really used this kiss.
THE HIGH HEAT KISS
How to put this? Well, there’s usually tongue involved and it’s mostly emphasizing the physical aspect of a clearly sexual relationship - it’s hella gay. Very few Thai, Vietnamese, or Korean pairs do high heat kissing. Lots of early Chinese pre-censorship did and some of the darker stuff from Japan still does. Only Taiwan consistently puts this kind of kiss into their BL.
Why is BL so obsessed with MewGulf? Well the actors were consistently excellent at all 3 elements of a good kiss and gave high heat kisses. Because of them we genuinely believed that Tharn & Type:
liked each emotionally
desired each other physically
and enjoyed it (AKA understood each others needs intellectually)
Individually both Mew and Gulf transmitted this to the audience, and together as a couple they also managed to do so. The short hand is... they had great chemistry. (Incidentally, Mew has good chemistry with other partners. He did high heat successfully in What the Duck too.)
ZeeSaint were pretty good at all of it as well, but they excelled at elements 2 & 3 in particular.
MaxTul in the later parts of the Together series and in Manner of Death were also excellent allrounders.
The friends to lovers dynamic is particularly good at moving characters towards all three aspects, because 1 & 3 are already established, only the physical is required to shift the dynamic into a romantic relationship. Personally, I’m a fan of this dynamic pivot occurring because of a one night stand or drunken kiss expressly because it can be that tipping point and it makes the sexual encounter particularly charged (Second Chance and 2 Moons 2 both used this approach).
Singto and Krist in SOTUS, on the other hand had 1. great emotional resonance but 2. poor physical reactions (especially Krist) and 3. weak execution. Their couple comes off as kind of ace as a result.
The characters clearly liked each other but equally clearly the actors don't wanna kiss each other, so when they do on screen they don't seem to enjoy it, and they can’t seem to stop that from showing to viewers.
Some pairs can be really good at transmitting elements 1 + 3 (which is emotional affection and intellectual couple connection) but not great at the physical/sexual component.
This style of approach is becoming more and more common in Thai BL. And is legally mandated by censorship in modern Chinese BL (such as it is).
The industry term for this kind of heat level is sweet romance.
Which is to say, the physical aspect of the relationship is deemed less important than the other two (overtly, or simply through lack of representation).
Watchers find this easy to forgive (and many prefer it) because we are trained to accept sweet romance in most romcoms and/or come from sexually repressed and prudish backgrounds. Or, ya know, are heterosexuals who think the gays kissing is “cute” but really don’t want to think about anything more than a kiss.
(Yes there’s more going on here, but I’m not unpacking a history of queer cinema for ya, or the repressed machinations of your personal psyche, we’re just talking kisses here.)
Do I think sweet romance is morally or ethically wrong?
Nope. Not at all. Color Rush is one of my favorite BLs of all time, it has very poor chemistry and a dead fish kiss. Oxygen is the ultimate sweet romance and I love it even though the lead pair’s chemistry is all over the place. TharnType is one of the highest heat best chemistry BLs in existence and I can’t even begin to count the number is problems I have with it.
Being critical of something does not mean you must forbid yourself from loving it. That too is a kind of chemistry. Understanding and accepting our own relationship with (and comfort taken from) these narratives is what I’m after.
* A quick note from the production side. I don’t know how exactly this works in Asian production houses, but kisses can be expensive. Like literally. Often there are contract clauses indicating how many and how intimate they are, and with which other actors. Which is why we see main couples kiss but not side couples. Or the reverse, if side actors are particularly cheap, they might kiss more.
The Damage Done By Uneven Chemistry
But there is other stuff going on to with low heat BL, culturally and narratively.
Diminishing the high heat aspects and the overtly gay physical connection of couple chemistry has tons of inadvertent messaging attached. Not just anti-sex.
It makes the gay-for-you more obvious (the characters don’t really desire each other, they just love each other so much they’re willing to make an exception to their “natural” inclinations AKA it’s okay because it’s you) *sigh*
It makes the characters seem less gay over all. Because heaven forfend they be actually gay and want to screw each other.
When physical relations are required, they are shrouded in an aura of “I just can’t help myself, he’s too cute” desperation, which inevitably leads to drunken dubious or non-consensual situations. (Because if they actually wanted each other in a healthy way = too gay.)
It’s easier on the actors to lean towards bromance over gay.
It encourages an international audience’s assumption that certain Asian countries are sexually repressed.
It plays nice with a homophobic audience and censorship.
On a mercenary level, less sexiness = more acceptable time slots, age ratings, distribution, and reach.
It’s so much the norm in Thai BL, that when high heat good chemistry does show up, audiences freak out and immature minds assume the actors must be in a relationship themselves because it couldn’t possibly be that they’re, ya know, ACTORS who are GOOD AT THEIR JOBS.
My little queer arse is gonna take a few breaths and calm down now.
But I do think game shows, interviews, and IRL skinship obsession is juvenile at best and stupidly damaging and hurtful to the talent at worse. It reminds me of those people who yell at actors in supermarkets because they play the baddie on a daytime soap opera.
You do know how to separate reality and fiction, right? Oh wait, this is the internet. Probably not.
Imma talk about Lovely Writer for a mo.
Lovely Writer is consciously trying to correct for a TON of wrongs that sweet romance in BL, uneven chemistry, and Thai BL in general, has wrought over the years. Pretty much all those messages I listed above? Lovely Writer is attempting to rectify:
Gene is explicitly not gay-for-you.
It's making it clear the couple wants to screw each other.
It’s putting consent front and center.
This is tough on both actors, but they are stepping up to the plate as much as possible.
It's actively battling ideas around Asians being sexually repressed, and it did this particularly well with the family coming out sequence.
It's challenging homophobic audiences and censorship.
It’s risking good time slots, broad age ratings, distribution, and reach because of this.
It’s directly pointing out the damage IRL skinship and fan stalker behavior can do to actors personally and professionally.
Which is why shipping KaoUp is kinda stomach churning and pretty flipping disgusting. Do not comment, just unfollow if you disagree. I don’t want to hear justification for obsessive objectification; celebrity fetishization; demonized sexualization; public outing; touch shaming; or diminishment of a popular performer’s privacy, agency, or autonomy as a result of their job.
WATCH & SUPPORT LOVELY WRITER!!!!!
Best Kisses in BL?
(Main couples only. Kisses only. This is not an assessment of the quality of the drama itself, or whether I personally enjoyed it.)
Be Loved In House: I Do (Taiwan)
Cornered Mouse Dreams of Cheese (Japan)
Golden Blood (Thai)
HIStory Obsessed (Taiwan)
HIStory 2 Crossing the Line (Taiwan)
HIStory 2 Right or Wrong (Taiwan)
HIStory 3 Make Our Days Count (Taiwan - both couples)
HIStory 3 Trapped (Taiwan - both couples)
HIStory 4 Close to You (Taiwan - both couples)
Just Friends? (Korea)
Like In The Movies (Pinoy)
Long Time No See (Korea)
Lovely Writer (Thai)
Manner of Death (Thai)
My Day (Pinoy)
Most Peaceful Place Is You (Vietnam)
Pornographer series (Japan)
Second Chance (Thai - both couples)
TharnType 1 & 2 (Thai)
To My Star (final kiss only - Korea)
Together with Me (Thai)
Until We Meet Again (Thai - all couples)
Why R U? (Thai - both couples)
We Best Love 1 & 2 (Taiwan)
Y-Destiny (Thailand - some of the couples)
You Are Ma Boy (Vietnam)
I’m watching a few right now that might make this list in the future.
Here’s me being silly about this: Chef de Smooching - Recipes for BL
Iron Chef Thailand
And more bits and bobs about boys kissing boys
Early Thai BL’s issues with kissing, and how MaxTul broke the mold and deserve awards
More about workshopping kissing scenes - SamYu and Taiwan’s approach (as opposed to others) and why/how its done from a production standpoint (plus more on MaxTul)
Top Ten Best Kisses from Taiwanese BL (in other words, the best of the best)
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BLs in 2020
Can I just marvel at what a year 2020 has been for BLs? Like it may have been a traumatic year overall but the BLs we’ve got have made it a lot easier to cope.
Firstly, from Thailand this year we’ve been given Iconic dramas such as 2gether The Series and subsequent Still 2gether, Surprisingly Good but Underrated, My Engineer, the Absolutely Crazy YYY The Series (and special episodes), and The Uneven Victims of COVID, Why R U? The Series and En of Love Series.
We’ve also been gifted with the Iconic, Amazing, Award-Deserving I Told Sunset About You. Just watch it. It has a happy ending that makes all the pain and tears worth while. And there’s going to be a Part 2 coming next March so JUST WATCH IT! Also watch the documentary episodes about the making of the show, they’re so interesting.
Currently airing from Thailand: My Gear & Your Gown, Oxygen The Series, TharnType: 7 Years of Love, Thonhon Chonlatee, Gen Y (the 2Moons we didn’t know that we needed).
Coming Soon: SaifahZon Special Episodes (Nov 27th), Manner of Death (Nov 30th), My Bromance: 5 Years Later (Dec 9th).
Secondly, South Korea has burst into the BL seen with two heartfelt, well-made dramas, starting with Where Your Eyes Linger and following up with Mr. Heart. Both criminally short but fantastic. Hopefully, SK will continue to delve into the BL world and give us more great dramas in 2021.
Coming Soon: WISH YOU: Your Melody In My Heart (Dec ??)
Thirdly, if Korea burst onto the BL seen, then you can rightly argue that The Philippines exploded on the BL scene! Starting with Gameboys and Hello Stranger, then more recently, Boys’ Lockdown, Oh Mando, Ben X Jim, My Extraordinary, Like In The Movies (Gaya Sa Pelikula) and more!
We also cannot overlook the fact that The Philippines gave us the first (correct me if I’m wrong) GL (Girl’s Love) with Pearl Next Door, a spin-off/ sequel to Gameboys.
Fourthly, Japan gave us two unique BLs this year in Life: Love On the Line (Life Senjou no Bokura) and Cherry Magic: Thirty Years of Virginity Can Make You a Wizard?! (30sai made Dotei dato Mahotsukai ni Narerurashii). Life: Love on the Line is a short but sweet drama that will give the whole range of emotions, from yelling at the screen at a certain main character to squealing in delight to bawling your eyes out. Cherry Magic hasn’t finished yet but it is already an amazing drama with interesting characters and a completely unique plot. I would highly recommend watching both.
Lastly, we cannot not talk about Taiwan when talking about BLs since it has given us some of the best BLs of all time in the HIStory Series. This year is notable for the fact that we did not get a 4th Season of HIStory. But this does not mean that they gave us nothing. Because of You and Craving You are two short, sweet BL dramas that aired this year. I’m sure that there are others on GagaOhLala but since I haven’t subscribe to that service yet...when I eventually run out of BLs to watch.
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Zon // Gene - inspired by anonymous ♡
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Someone commented on one of my tiktoks that they didn’t know what BL was but they wanted to get into it and I haven’t been able to stop thinking about it so I made this info graphic for newbies to BL.
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i’m bi, bi, bi until the day i die 💖💜💙
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BL drama stans be like “I know a place” and then take you here:
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For me? I wish... I wish that I can kiss you like this everyday.
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bl dramas + piggyback rides
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Zon: I'm not gay if I want to date Saifah but as bros, right?
Zol: I'm not an expert but it sounds pretty gay.
Tutor, eating chips: I'm an expert. That's gay.
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Recently I finished these dramas/ shorts:
Devil judge (kor)
Why R U (Thai)
(i skipped most of the other couples' parts, sry~)
Light on me (kor)
(I'm guessing this won't have a season 2 but one can still dream~)
He she it (Thai)
(ingredients, too. Love these two!)
2gether season 1 (Thai)
(he can't be that good of a teacher because by the end of season 1 his bfs guitar skills are still...😑😅)
Check out episode 0 (Thai)
(can't wait for this to start airing (in 2022, i guess))
Sotus S (Thai)
(started out a bit boring but got better later)
Cherry magic (JP)
(just two cute office guys things)
The moment + the moment since (Thai)
(hope those two also do more dramas together)
(this one's pretty dark)
Long time no see (kor)
(also on the dark side)
MoL: grey rainbow
T T + TT2 (Thai)
(seems like No is the only sane person in this this series!?! Better to "focus" on the chemistry n high heat than story and, yes, consent. )
😢😅 10 pics restriction...
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best of bl 2020 challenge, day 28: favorite kiss [1/1]
↳ fightertutor (why r u)
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Heat & Angst in BL + Other TERMS EXPLAINED
Q: You use the terms high heat, low heat, high angst, etc. in your posts, what do they mean?
Ah, those are literary terms borrowed from the romance and YA genres. Something like Twilight is low heat but very high angst, for example. My obsession with tropes comes from a literary critic background, so when I don’t know the fan terms I get old school. Literally.
High Heat AKA Explicit AKA Hot AKA Mature
High heat tends to mean more that just kissing is depicted on screen: so most Taiwanese BL, some Thai stuff, and Japan and China’s darker offerings. Publishers and authors will avoid using the term explicit because it red flags algorithms and gets books black listed. In the Hollywood film industry this probably includes NC 17 and definitely R rated moves (on the grounds of sexual content).
I like high heat if it’s done well and the actors can carry it off without making me wince. Some of the best examples of high heat are:
My Day the series - Pinoy (one of my favorite under appreciated high heat dramas)
Why R U? (probably the best high heat to come out of Thailand)
TharnType series - Thai (trigger: rape)
Love By Chance series - Thai (trigger: rape for side characters)
Most stuff with MaxTul in it like Manner of Death
History 3: Make Our Days Count - Taiwan (trigger: death)
HIStory 3 Trapped - Taiwan (HFN ending)
History 4: Close to You - Taiwan (trigger: dub con, stepbrother trope)
Japan’s Pornographer series and The Cornered Mouse Dreams of Cheese (warning very darkly cerebral, not really BL)
China did high heat before censorship but only in their darker stuff.
Vietnam does some high heat but not in any dramas I particularly enjoyed.
The Philippines does high heat too, but I don’t watch much Pinoy stuff.
Korea mostly avoids high heat except for stuff from Strongberry (which is a queer production house that clearly has an axe to grind... or something else to grind). Long Time No See and Sweet Curse are their high heat offerings.
I do my heat scale out of 3.
0/3 means no kissing or physical contact beyond tropes, maybe a hand hold.
1/3 for a peck or two.
2/3 for anything in the high school making out at a party range.
3/3 for “well they definitely had sex and we almost got to see it.”
In most BL the main character usually have a higher heat level than the side dishes but occasionally it’s reversed. Cherry Magic for example, the mains don’t kiss but the sides do.
High heat is different than erotica. Erotica means the physical sexual connection of the characters drives the plot. BL is mostly romance (or at least romantic), so the emotional connection of the characters drives the plot. Some of Japan’s stuff (and source yaoi) edges into erotica though because... Japan.
I will say that higher heat BL does often have a weaker plot and story structure than low heat, but that may just be coincidence because there is so little high heat. Out of c.250 BLs I’ve viewed I would qualify only c.30 of them as truly high heat.
Dub Con & Non Con
Dub con (dubious consent) is when the consent is questionable. For example if one character is drunk or otherwise unable to clearly agree to a sexual liaison (this is statutory rape in the USA). This happens a lot in early BL and is still popular in certain countries and with certain authors/directors/producers (Mame).
Non-con (non consent) means no consent is given at all. So straight up romanticization of rape. A lot of early Japanese and Chinese BL used this. What I call “dark BL” because these narratives almost always end with suicide, murder, or dramatic death, for example A Round Trip to Love.
For various psychological reason the rape fantasy is hugely popular, particularly among straight women who are the primary consumers of BL. I don’t kink shame so, you do you, it’s the context of the narrative and (lack of) critical lens that bothers me often with these dramas and their lack of consent.
Low Heat AKA Sweet AKA Closing the Bedroom Door
Formerly known as “clean romance” this is far more common than high heat for various reasons. Audience expectations, airing times, and expense are probably the most common.
Audiences expect lighter romances to be lower heat levels mostly because the het rom com genre established this precedent. Why make actors kiss if you don’t have to?
A mature rating usually detrimentally impacts distribution (who will take it, who will air it, and in what time slot). It can also loose a show its sponsorship. However, it usually increases international views.
Nudity and kissing and further is expensive, the actors are usually paid more the more explicit they go.
So most BLs lean towards the low heat side of the equation. Korea, for example, vastly prefers them. They like a slow burn and maybe just a kiss or two. Thailand does as well, probably because GMMTV dominates the field and they have a very specific lower heat criteria. And because the Thai pulps are predominantly set in high school (and are mass produced) they tend to be low heat (age of protagonists) and sway the data. They do also do high heat, though it’s not as common.
That said Thailand is getting better and better about their kisses and even in the low heat pulps they tend to have more engaging and physically demonstrative intimacy than most other BL producing countries (with the possible exception of the Philippines).
Chinese post 2016 censored BL (like Guardian, Advance Bravely, Untamed or Word of Honor) does not qualify as sweet romance. Sorry. It’s censored romance or bromance. If the story structure implies that there should be at least kiss, which these do and would have had if they featured heterosexual main couples, that’s censorship. Intent and messaging matters. I’m not attacking the dramas themselves, Addicted and Word of Honor are two of my favorites, but that doesn’t mean I can’t be critical of what was done to them. It’s okay to love something and still recognize its flaws, that is not a weakness, that’s life.
In line with that, just as high heat BLs often encounter dub con issues, low heat can have sex negativity issues.
Some of you think I don’t like low heat, but honestly that’s not the case. Some of my favorite BLs of all time fall into this category, like Color Rush, Light On Me, or Love Sick. I just strongly prefer it when heat levels are married to the narrative and the actors are physically comfortable with each other, which brings us to...
Higher Heat AKA Balanced Heat
These are my favorites. They tend to be the ones that use heat levels to serve the story. We, the watchers, never doubt for one moment that the characters want each other badly. Something like We Best Love, To My Star, Addicted, Lovely Writer, or I Told The Sunset About You. There is more than just kissing and it might go right up to the line, even follow the boys into the bedroom, but isn’t gratuitous about it. Taiwan really excels at this and some of the best Thai BL have it too.
Difficult to define, this is a case of I know it when I see it. Usually with these dramas there is A LOT of emotion in the intimacy and the kisses tend to be really good. I call these higher heat by default since there isn’t really a term for it in the literary world.
One note on the term sexy. I tend to think of this as very audience specific so I don’t often use it for analysis. I find something sexy (neck grabs or neck kisses and a hand around the waist, for example). You find something sexy (a person, an action, a gesture, a connection, an image). These may not be the same thing. This can be low or high heat, feature soft boys, domestic intimacy, verbal sparring, eye flirting, or being thrown up against a wall. It’s hugely subjective.
High Angst AKA Drama Llamas AKA Internal Conflict
High angst means the plot driver is miscommunication and/or internal drama over identity and self worth, so like Love Sick or Make it Right or Light on Me. These are often, but not always, set in high school for obvious reasons.
When set in university or older (glares at Ossen’s Love) too high angst can make the characters seem very immature. I happen to be personally over this kind of behavior (too many actor friends) so my preference is for fluffy over angsty.
That said I loved Light On Me, and still adore Love Sick and Make it Right so there is something to be said for very confused boys, disaster gays and panicked bisexuals, and excessive noodling over coming out. On the flip side while I love Why R U? for its chemistry the angst feels very forced and drama comes out of left field impacting the pace, which make the narrative confusing.
Sometimes angst and miscommunication are handled really well, especially when sourced in character personality and understandable confusion, perfect examples of this are His the movie on one end of the spectrum (mature older characters, high cinema) and Seven Days on the other (live action yaoi in its purest form) - both from Japan.
Low Angst AKA Cute AKA External Conflict
This just means that there is very little emotional immaturity or miscommunication driving the plot. Examples include Oxygen, Cherry Magic, Lovely Writer, Color Rush, Nobleman Ryu's Wedding, You Make Me Dance. This is not to say the characters don’t internally agonize over things like self worth, it’s just that the story is being driven by something else. I will often call these “cute” but usually just low angst.
Often these are thought of as fluffy and very light weight (which I also like) but that isn’t always the case.
Sometimes higher concept dramas and more mature characters are dictating the story so it’s not cute or fluffy. Manner of Death, 1000 Stars, Color Rush, and Until We Meet Again are low angst but not at all fluffy or lightweight.
HEA HFN LTR
HEA = happily ever after (think Disney)
HFN = happy for now (think the end of HIStory 3: Trapped or Ingredients)
LTR = long term relationship
Tsundere - (ツンデレ pronounced tsɯ̥ndeɾe) is a Japanese term for a character who undergoes a development arc moving him (in BL) from a personality that is initially cold, temperamental, hotheaded, competitive, and hostile towards a warmer, friendlier side. (Squishy center.) Sometimes the charter will stay grumpy but his disposition is better understood. Often he will soften only for his other half. Shu Yi in We Best Love is a classic example of a tsundere uke, and Pick in Puppy Honey is the ultimate tsundere seme.
Taiwan in particular LOVES a tsundere character.
Seme/uke versus D/s & top/bottom
I tend to use the terms seme/uke because I come from reading yaoi in the early 00s. I like to consider them the following:
seme: the active pursuer in the narrative
uke: the passive resistor in the narrative
I use seme/uke because it is the established vocab for BL same sex romantic pairings under the context of narrative analysis. (Using hero/hero would get confusing, for example.) Lots more discussion on this and how it relates to the different countries producing BL here.
I think of seme & uke as narrative archetypes (useful only when talking about fiction, not useful when talking about real life). It’s about who is in CONTROL of the relationship’s story.
As opposed to:
top/bottom/verse: terms which come from the gay/queer community and pertain to sexual preference and (should) have nothing to do with narrative power dynamics. To be crass, top/bottom is about who gets penetrated. It’s referencing sexual position and physical acts, not characterization or narrative. The bottom is NOT the weak one or the girl. For heavens sake!
These are generally though of as sexual position preferences, verse just means both or no preference. FighterTutor are one of the few clearly depicted verse boys in BL.
I think casual use of seme/uke as conflated with top/bottom is a PROBLEM with both these narratives and the discussion around them. (I recognize that this originates in yaoi.) Mainly because het consumers conflate (egregiously & incorrectly) top with male/masculine and bottom with female/feminine.
Type in TharnType, for example, is clearly a bottom and tsundere but he is neither a submissive nor really a uke.
D/s or Dom/sub/switch come from the kink community and pertain to the power dynamics of a relationship: Dominant vs submissive, (which may include the physical but doesn’t have to). The Dominant is in (nominal) charge and takes responsibility for the emotional/physical action in a given scene or relationship. The submissive acts to endure the Dominant's actions/choices/decisions as well as satisfy their desires/orders/wishes, and is rewarded for their service by having their needs met (whatever form those needs take: care, stewardship, pain, pleasure, freedom of responsibility, etc). A switch can either move from D to s during the course of a scene or (more common) switches depending on the type of scene, mood, or play partner.
A D/s dynamic MUST BE:
understood by both parties,
negotiated ahead of time,
involve a safeword and known limits.
A D/s relationship without the 3 above criteria is not D/s at all, it is abuse.
For me the language around D/s actually better correlates to seme/uke under the context of modern BL. But I feel compelled to acknowledge that BL never involves adequate communication or negotiation.
(For the record I belong to both the queer and kink communities.)
If you’re interested in Daddy/boy I talk about that dynamic in this ask. But because it shows up so little in BL I’m not gonna bother to cover it in depth here.
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bl recommendations boys
alright so i’ve never actually posted any of my recommendations for bls on here so that’s what we are gonna do today.
just gonna do like my top ones from each country because there are so many that i’ve watched and forgot what happened so like here we go. this does contain a lot of spoilers so read at your own risk.
top 10 thai:
i was gonna do just top 10 in general but as there are so many fucking thai ones i think it’s best to just give them their own category. i haven’t actually watched many lately just because they have all been pretty repetitive and i got bored but whatever.
sotus. warnings: hazing. i won’t even lie to you, this isn’t even the best thai bl however idk what it is but i absolutely adore the singto/krist pairing (in the show, plz don’t ship real ppl). so here we are. classic enemies to lovers trope (my absolute favorite). so engineer students. one is a popular freshman (kongpob) and is getting hazed by the upperclassmen. the other is the leader of the hazing team (arthit) and ngl a bit of a prick at first. kong simply does not give a single fuck tbh and i truly love that for him. think like the perfect honor student decides to rebel against the system and ends up falling for the person he is rebelling against. they do have a second season (sotus s) that’s like working in the real world. it’s not as good but i still like it. and the one episode of our skyy which is extremely domestic and i very much love. you can watch on youtube (gmmtv)
until we meet again. warnings: suicide, death, homophobia. like it is very heavy in the plot so please be in the right headspace to be watching this one. nonetheless it is so so good. kinda complicated to explain but i’ll try my best. okay so it focuses on two different couples. korn and intouch are from the past and pharm and dean are from the present. so when korn and intouch were around it wasn’t accepted to be gay and their fathers were not having it (straight up homophobic af). basically a bunch of bad shit happens to them and after they die they are like reincarnated into pharm and dean. so basically pharm and dean like unravel everything of the past. but yeah the bitch is crazy good. also pharm is so adorable and i would die for him. you can watch on youtube (studio wabi sabi)
ingredients. okay so this is actually like an ad series. like they are straight up promoting a supermarket lmao. but it’s actually so so cute and soft and domestic and god i love it and them. also jeff and game have such great chemistry it’s beautiful (honestly my favorite thai ship). so tops (yeah my mans was named after the grocery story lmao) is a future chef and win is an aspiring singer. and they were roommates (plz know the meme thank you). yeah so they are roommates and the entire series they slowly fall for each other. and it’s just like so many good tropes shoved in there and man i love it. be warned the episodes are super short. also the acting skills on these two? bruh they are like the complete opposite of their characters irl and you would never know. trust me go look up interviews of them and you’ll understand. you can watch on youtube (centralfoodtv)
my engineer. i’m putting this one on here solely for ram and king. goodbye. no but okay so i’m not gonna lie i find one of the main actors in this kinda creepy lmao but it’s fine i can look past that. the show is actually good. duen is basically punished to bring bohn a flower everyday for a month. at some point bohn’s friends call him out and he finally tells deun he likes him which in turn deun turned that boy down so hard. but ya know bohn doesn’t give up until well he does and boom deun has feelings bitches. one thing that very much pisses me off about it though is that deun’s friends like forbid him to date bohn unless they agree which is like fucked? and actually none of their business but whatever. the real reason i put it on here tho is my boys. firstly i would straight up die for king. they are a side couple but by far my favorite side couple in any bl. king is outgoing and ram is a quiet boy. pretty much king tries to get ram out of his shell the entire time and he drunk confesses (you love to see it). we are supposed to be getting a season two that focuses on them so. you can watch on youtube (my enigneer official)
why r u. this would have been higher on my list if covid didn’t fuck with their filming time. basically zon and saifah were supposed to be the actual main couple but they couldn’t film all of their scenes and so it kinda became the tutor and fighter show. which don’t get me wrong the tutor and fighter storyline is really good too. i just love my soft boys better and wish they were the main as intended. yeah so the two main couples all hate each other lmao. tutor and fighter hate each other and zon and saifah hate each other. hey look another enemies to lovers. do we sense a pattern yet? it’s actually funny because they are actual sweethearts to everyone else besides each other. they pretty much all deny their feelings besides saifah (a king). the main reason i wasn’t as fond of tutor and fighter is because them mf are horny af and well i’m asexual and not into that. very angsty and like sorta love triangle which i also hate but it wasn’t really in your face so it was okay. zon and saifah become friends because sai has to teach zon how to play guitar. it progresses from there but as i said they didn’t get all of the scenes so we were cut short on how they actually fell for each other but they did do a special (three episodes i think) of just them two to make up for it. you can watch on the line tv app.
a tale of a thousand stars. warnings: death, heart transplant (idk just in case), guns. this one was a very refreshing one in the aspect they weren’t university students anymore. like finally dude. so this guy tian is a rich boy and he needs a heart transplant. he gets the heart from a teacher (from a poor village) that died. basically he finds out that she was the one that he got the heart from so he wanted to make up for it by going to teach at the village she was at. when he gets there the chief forest officer phupha is assigned to take care of him. they don’t get off on the right foot at first but eventually become friends. and they actually flirt so much like no hiding that shit. also they actually go about this by not freaking out about liking a dude which is super chill because so many thai ones love to say they don’t like guys just this guy as if bisexuality doesn’t exist but anyway. you can watch on youtube (gmmtv)
love by chance. warnings: blackmail, being outed sort of. saint my baby boy is dynamic af okay. but in this one he plays pete, the very polite and quiet rich boy. cute cinnamon role of a person will fight everyone for him. his pairing is with ae, the mf is a chaotic outgoing boy. pretty much complete opposites. there’s a scene where ae says he doesn’t think he’s too short just everyone else is taller than him and i think that sealed it for me. this one is very nice because they both caught feelings at the beginning of this bitch so like aye don’t have to wait until the end besties. did this one even actually have a plot except everyone being gay and jealous? idk i mean it was honestly just pete and ae being boyfriends so it doesn’t matter we stan. the side couple in this is a cute enemies to lovers thing. actually tin is a dick to everyone except pete. i think we are supposed to hate him but i refuse. i love that man so much and he deserves only good things. you can watch on youtube (studio wabi sabi) and the linetv app.
he’s coming to me. warnings: death, indirect(?) murder. alright this one is like sifi shit which is not exactly common for thai. won’t lie it is very impractical being that mes is a fucking ghost but. who comes up with this shit and makes me enjoy it? in all honesty it’s probably because of singto. alright so mes couldn’t go into the afterlife when he died because his family is fucked up (you’ll see). so this guy thun can see ghosts. he starts as a little boy which is kinda weird but whatever we get the actual guy (college boy). so he takes mes out of the cemetery and basically they are roommates (again the meme). it’s actually pretty platonic for a good bit because again mes is a fucking ghost bro. and like he can’t really touch things all the time especially people so it’s very difficult. but they have this weird ghost human relationship but it works. i know i sound like i’m talking shit but i promise i’m not it is actually good. you can watch on youtube (gmmtv)
2gether. warnings: so many fucking straight people. okay so this one is pretty light hearted. tine starts off obnoxiously straight (lol okay). and so basically this other guy has a crush on him so he tries to higher a girl to act as his girlfriend and it just doesn’t work. so his only logical solution is “hey let’s get the hottest dude in school to be my boyfriend instead” like sir straight??? and you couldn’t find another way to turn him down? okay. so yeah fake dating trope begins for like the first half. and then plot twist sarawat has feelings for straight boy tine. so he tries to get him for real but tine’s friends are super annoying like i will swing at all of them mf. obnoxious straight friends don’t want their friend to be bisexual pretty much. anyways very good and they do have a second season that is very domestic we love. you can watch on youtube (gmmtv)
second chance. warnings: mention of death, serious injury. this one is actually a fairly recent one. i usually tend to stay away from high school ones just because like i feel weird watching them and they just usually aren’t good imo. however i gave this one a chance fully because of tong. he’s played side characters before and he finally got his lead role so i had to. anyways he plays paper. his character is just idk he’s a nice boy and he’s a smart honorable dude. his best friend is thong fah. basically he lost his father and he just has been having a hard time and paper has always been there for him (they are childhood friends). tbh thong fah liked him from the very beginning. i think paper did too but refused to admit it for a bit. they honestly are just vibing together as besties and then one day were like nah we are something more. idk it’s not all dramatic and shit like the other ones. it’s just very soft and pining and idk i really like it. fair warning there are not many episodes in this. you can watch on the linetv app.
top 5 korean:
okay let’s do korean next. i pretty much love all of the korean ones so yeah let’s do this. i do recommend to watch the movie versions of these if you can. they just flow better than the episodes do imo. but the shows are fine too like it’s the same thing. you can watch all of these on viki.
to my star. warnings: fighting, blackmail. this is my baby. my favorite bl out of all of these. extremely domestic with a bit of enemies to lovers (my favorite two tropes). kang seo joon is an actor that gets in trouble for “fighting” and he has to hide out until everything blows over. his manager gets him to hide out in his rental place (that he is in fact renting to someone). that someone being a chef named han ji woo. hey look they were roommates. anyways they are complete opposite of each other too. seo joon is very outgoing and friendly. will talk to anyone and overall just a big puppy. ji woo is stern and very much keeps to himself. so ji woo pretty much hates him at first but my mans seo joon is persistent af and forces them to be friends. and then he gets drunk and kisses him which in turn makes him realize he likes him. and then shit goes down and things get a bit rocky but then the dummies figure out what’s going on and they make up and they are super cute okay. i love them with my entire being.
color rush. warnings: attempted suicide, death, and kidnapping. in this world a portion of the population can only see color in different shades of grey. those people are called monos and they can only see other colors when they meet their probe. so yeon woo is a mono that moves schools a lot when people find out (they have bad reputations for killing their probes). when he moves schools again he meets yoo han who turns out to be his probe. enemies to lovers baby. i use that loosely. basically yeon woo tries to avoid yoo han as much as possible because he never wanted to meet his probe. he doesn’t want to get obsessed with him and murder the dude like other monos do. but eventually with yoo han’s persistence they start to become friends and eventually date. and he teaches yeon woo about all the different colors while fully knowing it can be extremely dangerous. some dark shit does go down but for the most part it’s pretty upbeat.
where your eyes linger. warnings: fighting, homophobia. this one is cute and domestic. god idk how many times i said they were roommates in this list but they are fucking roommates. actually more than that, they share a bed. so rich boy han tae joo (i honest to god have no clue what his dad is a ceo of but whatever that’s a thing). he has a bodyguard (gang gook) who is also his best friend that is his age and goes to school with him. basically people aren’t exactly supposed to know he is his bodyguard but honestly everyone knows. so uh it has like a lot of sexual tension between them. anyways they don’t exactly admit it at first (especially gang gook). and then he starts dating this girl to prove them both wrong that they don’t have feelings for each other. which just backfired so hard and got tae joo jealous af.
wish you. oh my fucking god yeah i’m saying it again. they were roommates. why am i like this. so kang in soo (he’s pretty much playing himself) is a singer who gets discovered off the streets by a boy that works for a record company. said boy is yoon sang yi and he actually plays keyboard. basically he recommends him to his boss and the company takes him on. since he’s a rookie the company makes him stay with one of their people (yoon sang yi). so they live together and work together everyday and just hang out together like friends would. then yoon sang yi gets drunk and kisses him and it kinda freaked kang in soo out. and then shit goes down about his music career and they end up being all cute and making music together instead. very wholesome.
mr heart. warnings: blackmail (well like a loan shark but). yeah this one is def last on my list. don’t get me wrong it’s still good and i like it but def not as good as the rest. sang ha is just a smiley puppy dog in human form. his life is actually so hard too man i feel for him. he’s actually a runner (a sprinter to be exact) and he gets hired to help another student. jin won runs marathons and has a bunch of records but he starts to struggle so sang ha comes along to help him maintain his running. jin won hates it at first and is kind of a dick to him. but they eventually get along and like sang ha is very forward with his feelings towards him so it’s nice to see.
my little disclaimer on this. i haven’t watched you make me dance yet (but have heard it’s great). and light on me ( i’m not sure if i will because love triangles and i hate them). peach of a time is airing right now (it’s a crossover with a few thai actors). honorable mention to nobleman rye’s wedding (it wasn’t bad but i got a little bored).
moving on to other random ones that i wanna talk about. i’ll group them by country but these are just like ones that i’m not as invested in (meaning i don’t watch every bl these countries put out, i just kinda watch at random times). but i still have a few that i very much enjoyed.
we best love: no 1 for you. warnings: blackmail (but it’s like for a good reason). back to college students boys. so zhou shu yi and gao shi de are mortal enemies. and by that i mean zhou shu yi considers gao shi de his mortal enemy. and gao shi de is simply in love. they have been going to the same school their entire lives and gao shi de beats him in literally everything. plot twist he did it because that’s the only way to get zhou shu yi’s attention. it actually takes place in college tho. and basically gao shi de “blackmails” him into being his servant. but they actually end up forming a weird friendship out of it. gao shi de accidentally confesses. zhou shu yi turns him down but then realizes lol he’s in love with that man. yeah so they have a second season (fighting mr 2nd) it’s good very different from the first. they do have a questionable scene in one episode but um yeah it’s pretty much a big load of gao shi de being trash at communicating. honestly who would’ve guessed zhou shu yi would be the good communicator. you can watch on wetv (but i think i watched them on dailymotion or something)
be loved in house: i do. it’s centered around a group of coworkers and friends in a design studio. the head employee that is pretty much over everyone is shi lei. he’s such a soft ball of sunshine that will fight for what he believes in and i love him so much. until the new director (yu zhen) comes along and takes over the shop. he brings with him a single rule which yeah is what it sounds like. they all gotta be single or they get fired. two of the coworkers are actually dating (were gonna get engaged literally that day lmao) so of course they have a problem with it. welcome enemies to lovers. and wait for it. roommates!!! yeah so they end up living together and they give each other a lot of shit. but then they start to get along and oh my god so many bed scenes. it’s literally just them sleeping but they share a bed so much in this series it’s very cute. but yeah they are quite bad at communication. and yu zhen’s ex boyfriend shows up. a bit chaotic at the end there but yeah very good. you can watch on viki.
history 3: trapped. warnings: guns, death. listen the history franchise is very problematic but this one actually isn’t bad. now i personally like the side couple more than the main but the main are still cute. police officer (meng shao fei) and gang leader (tang yi) fall for each other. i guess yeah another enemies to lovers. basically both of their mentors got killed at the same time years ago and they are both trying to find the murderer. and they get kidnapped together and have to work together. and yeah feelings and stuff. the side couple are of another cop and one of tang yi’s subordinates. they literally never hated each other. they were just vibing the entire time. i refuse to put history3: make our days count because of the ending but feel free to watch if you want to get your heart broken. you can watch on viki.
my day. warnings: non con sex tape (by a third party). you don’t understand how much i love sky. nothing bad should ever happen to him okay. him and ace are actually super cute together. so sky interns at this food company that ace is the boss of. and like ace is literally so mean to everyone especially sky for no reason like idek why. there is sort of a love triangle which i didn’t like with a girl. tbh the girl was super annoying the entire time there wasn’t a need for her but i guess for the story. anyways yeah it actually isn’t that great of a plot but i look past it because i love ace and sky together. it used to be on youtube but i’m not sure where to watch now sorry (maybe try dailymotion)
gameboys. okay how do i explain this one without completely roasting them. okay it’s cute for sure but it’s also really cringe imo. it’s cringe to the point that you have to watch it. it is straight up two dudes that stream themselves playing games (think twitch irl). they literally set it in covid times so they never get to meet because of that so it’s long distance and the entire show has them talking to each other over video calls. in the least offensive way possible gavreel is the definition of a fuckboy idc what anyone says. honestly cairo lowkey is too but moving on. it’s very different so if that’s your thing go for it. you can watch on netflix.
like in the movies. warnings: internalized homophobia. how do i say this.. they were roommates. basically karl is forced to live in his uncle’s condo alone (family tradition thing idk). and he’s supposed to pay rent to said uncle every month by himself. he eventually can’t make a payment and gets his neighbor (vlad) to move in with him. he actually doesn’t like vlad at first because he makes a bunch of noise and gets drunk a lot (mans is just heartbroken okay). they definitely pretend to date in front of his sister so vlad doesn’t have to go back home to his homophobic mom. to be clear karl has the internalized homophobia. vlad is out and proud. you can watch on youtube (globe studios)
seven days: monday- thursday. and seven days: friday- sunday. yeah this is a two parter. they are actually films instead of tv shows (i think i only have watched as a film). my favorite of the japanese bls by far. there is very little heat (probably why my asexual ass likes it) but they do have a few intimiate scenes. so sieryo is a popular freshman and he is known for dating whichever girl confesses to him first on monday morning. shino yuzuru is a popular upperclassmen that always gets dumped because he doesn’t turn out to be what girls imagine him to be. so he decides to give it a try with sieryo. shino basically thinks it’s kind of a joke and straight up thinks they are literally only going to date for one week. sieryo does it to find a person he can fall in love with in a week. they both catch feelings and get jealous so that’s fun. you can watch on youtube.
given. i won’t lie i haven’t actually watched the live action of this yet but i’m sure it is good. i have watched the anime if you’re into that. so it’s about a band. everyone in said band likes a boy. queer band supremacy. satou is a quiet boy that keeps to himself. chance encounter with ritsuka uenoyama has him teaching satou how to play the guitar. turns out satou has the voice of an angel and he joins their band as the lead singer. and yeah they spend a lot of time together so ya know. you can watch on crunchyrole.
his- i didn’t think i would fall in love. it’s a super short one. i think like five episodes. nagisa is literally a high school student that lives by himself. straight up man moved to the beach so he could surf. he’s pretty quiet and keeps to himself a lot. shun goes to visit his dad at said beach and ends up being left alone there for spring break. they meet and become friends eventually. so nagisa teaches him to surf and they hang out a lot and yeah turns out nagisa just liked this boy the entire time. very wholesome and cute. you can watch on viki. also this is based on the movie his which i haven’t actually watched yet but also on viki.
had to include one or two of course. i actually haven’t watched a lot of these. mainly because i haven’t found many that i like so plz leave recs if yall would like.
stage of love. this was actually my first one i watched and i very much loved it. bear with me because it’s been a while. but basically nguyen is like the perfect senior. he’s actually really straightforward with people and so a lot of people are a bit scared of him. but they also like him at the same time. bao is a freshman that is just trying to have a good time honestly. so he gets cast as the lead in the university’s play. nguyen basically comes around to help out and make the play good because he’s like super into theatre. and they rehearse with each other and one thing leads to another. they’re super cute together. i hope i accurately described that, it really has been so long. you can watch on youtube (ab studio).
you are ma boy. i feel like this one is pretty popular actually. am i making that up? idk but i’ve seen people talk about it. enemies to lovers again hello. it’s actually super cute like nothing extreme. just soft boys in a cafe. i really hope i’m getting the names right here because it is so hard to find how to spell the names without going to yt so uh. bach duong works at this cafe and one day nhat nam barges in to hide from his fans. basically they keep running into each other and eventually fall for each other. the plot is like idk was there a plot? they literally just found each other every episode and lmao that was it but it was still good. you can watch on youtube (dgtv)
as we know china has government censorship so these are bl but they also aren’t. like they don’t kiss or anything like that and they are referred to as friends. tho they did sneak in soulmate since you can use it as platonic lmao. so like don’t get your hopes up for a bunch of romantic shit. because it’s not in here. however if you read the novels (and all of them do have novels) you will get the actual gay shit.
the untamed. my beloved. warnings: so much death. i watched this 5 times in a row (5o fucking episodes okay) when i first found it. okay so it follows the story of wei wuxian and lan wangi. guess what? enemies to lovers. you will be confused by the first two episodes if you don’t read the novel first like most of us did. i recommend watching the show first actually because the novel is very confusing to follow. so it’s set in historical china. at the time wei wuxian and lan wangi are two of the best young cultivators in the world. they meet when they are teenagers and lan wangi immediately hates the man. he pretty much doesn’t speak to anyone besides his brother and uncle. like mans straight up hates the world. until wei wuxian comes along and forces his way into his life. complete opposites again. lan wangi is an honor student, goes by the rules, a model cultivator if you will. wei wuxian is actually good in school but hates it, is in fact the worst trouble maker, but is a fantastic cultivator. so it shows there progress to friendship of them fighting side by side and then big ass plot twist: wei wuxian dies and comes back to life uhh 13/16 years later (diff in novel and book). that’s when they actually start to go more towards the romantic side. like i said the novel is super gay and the show is toned down but iykyk. you can watch on like anything (youtube, netflix, viki)
word of honor. warnings: yeah bunch of death again. okay so it’s honestly the untamed but gayer. actually the novel is less gay than the untamed novel but god damn idk how the fuck this ever got past censorship. so it focuses on two kinda evil fuckers. zhou zi shu is the ex leader of an assasain group and wen ke xing is the leader of the ghosts and is in fact trying to get everyone killed. they meet and zhou zi shu immediately hates the man. but like wen ke xing falls hard and fast. zhou zi shu is basically hiding out for the rest of his days until he meets wen ke xing and his unofficial adopted son. they go on a quest to basically bring down the actual evil mf of this story. and it’s found family along the way and god i love it. the amount of times they said soulmate and wen ke xing just straight up openly flirting with this man is astonishing. it’s like one big i’ll die for you constantly happening. you can watch on anything too (youku, youtube, netflix, viki).
heaven official’s blessing. warnings: yup death. this is anime. idk if the live action is gonna come about because the chinese government is cracking down on bl again so um yeah. the novel is super gay too. but okay it’s the world of gods and demons. xie lian is the scrap collecting god that keeps becoming a god and honestly everyone makes fun of. i, like hua cheng, would simply die for this ball of sunshine. hua cheng (aka san lang) is one of the main demon kings. pretty much everyone including the gods are scared of him except xie lian. he actually befriends him fully knowing who he is. meanwhile hua cheng has been in love with him for like his entire life. he literally waits 800 years to see him again. um anyways yeah they fight together because hua cheng lives to keep xie lian safe which is so hard. xie lian is lowkey the most powerful god fight me. you can watch on netflix.
these next few are shows that have bl couples in it but they aren’t the main couple. but i have to add them because i love the couples. and if you’re like me you can just skip to their scenes only.
skam (norway). warnings: bipolar, depression, homophobia, more warnings for the rest of the show so look them up first. how it works is each season focuses on a different couple. the characters are in every season but the bl couple’s story is in season three. i’ve watched the first and second season of this as well and you don’t need to watch them to understand season three if you don’t want to. but if you do wanna watch, it actually is a really good show. they bring up real life problems people have. so isak is gay but he kind of refuses to admit it to himself or anyone else. he tries to fit in by having a girlfriend until even comes along. even is a very chaotic bisexual pretty much does whatever tf he wants all the time. they meet at a club event hosted by their friends. and they keep meeting because of their mutual friends. they both have girlfriends at the time but they eventually break up with them and get together instead. so their story revolves around yeah homophobia but also on even being bipolar. and the effects of that to an individual, relationship, and his loved ones. it’s a deeper one so like be prepared. there are also other countries that made adaptations of the show as well if you wanna check those out. i only watched the bl seasons in these but i very much like the france and belgium versions. i won’t lie it took me so long to find how to watch these the first time so just like google it.
love is science (taiwan). warnings: slight homophobia but not terrible. i will tell you right now i have no fucking clue what the plot of this show is outside the bl couple. straight up i have skipped every scene that doesn’t involve them. but their story doesn’t have anything to do with anyone else. so mark starts as lowkey homophobic. not in the sense that he was saying a bunch of rude shit. but in the sense that he’s never been around gay people before and straight up did not know how to act. like thinks of gay people as stereotypes sort of way. and yeah that’s how he meets ou wen. they meet because of clients and they end up seeing each other like every other day. mark does apologize for how he acted at first and they do become sort of friends. then mark finds out who ou wen’s boss is and tries to get ou wen to help set them up. ou wen agreed because he’s straight up in love with the man and hates seeing him sad. later on mark is over the whole boss thing and realized nah he actually has feelings for ou wen. the show is still going on right now so like idk everything but i applaud mark for skipping the whole gay panic and just accepting the fact that he’s bisexual. mark- clueless straight to confident bisexual. ou wen- confident gay to panicked gay real quick. you can watch on viki.
alright besties that’s my list for now. i tried to put everything i remembered in this but i may have forgot some good ones idk. i’ve watched most of these a long ass time ago so like. as for all the warnings: i tried to remember as best as i could but i may have missed some warnings so please do look it up before actually going into any of these if you need to.
but yeah these are obviously all my opinions so don’t take it to heart if you disagree with it lol we all have our own opinions. i may add more or do a part two later on but idk this is it for now. this took me so long to do btw so lmao i hope some of yall actually watch them.
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Happy International kiss day 💋💋
. We Best Love
. History 3 : Trapped
. Why R U?
. History 4: Close to you
. Mr. Heart
. Manner of Death
. Until We Meet Again
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After sitting through this
You’d think we’d be strong enough for this by now
But I’m still gonna cry a bucket of tears because that’s what emotionally wrecked b*tches do
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