#I just hate lin manuel miranda

[hollowaluminumvessel]

i swear to heaven and earth and all things holy, if lin manuel fucking miranda speaks a WORD of rap in the Percy Jackson show, I'll tear the throat of the first person that dares make eye contact with me out with my jaws.

#percy jackson #pjo #percy jackson disney+ #hey guys I'm so happy that lin manuel miranda has a speaking role in the Percy Jackson TV series #I am the no. 1 lin manuel miranda hater #I drag his ass so hard through the mud that he still reeks of dirt 3 and a half months later #I hate lin manuel miranda #dgmw I live hamilton #I just hate lin manuel miranda #also idk if I'm making this clear enough but I fucking hate lin manuel miranda. #I'm gonna beat that twink to a pulp #also just to be clear my hate is completely irrational. I have no reason to hate him #I just do #percy jackon and the olympians #rick riordan #i cannot wait #the show is gonna be sick asf

[mythology-void]

thinking about the parallels between hermes thinking he's a terrible father and sally jackson thinking she's a terrible mother only Sally had Poseidon to talk to and Hermes only had May, his beautiful fragile mortal wife who went insane because he wasn't strong enough to keep her safe

oh God i can't do this someone hold me

#lin manuel miranda #i am so weak #i just. I can't #sally jackson crying/questioning her skills as a mother will never not be emotionally devastating for me #and don't get me started on hermes and his dysfunctional depressing heart-wrenchingly awful relationship with his wife and son #what do you mean you'll hate me for the rest of your life and i'll miss you for the rest of mine #percy jackson #the odyssey #pjo #pjo tv show #percy jackon and the olympians #pjo series #sally jackson is mother #sally jackson #percy jackson and the olympians #annabeth pjo #annabeth chase #percy and grover #grover underwood

[nerevar-quote-and-star]

Trying to transliterate Leara's name into Quenya, and it somehow becomes, uh,

Lëarra

Which basically means "You Sealion!"

And I'm just, "Oh yes, this is That Sealion Woman, and she can breathe fire, as all sealions do."

If Leara, for any reason at all, needed an actual Quenya or Sindarin name for any fun Elvish shenanigans, we'll just use Calairie/Calearil, which is "Light of the Sea" in Quenya and Sindarin, and what Leara actually means.

#I mean yes she uses vilya as her spy name but that's elrond's ring (ps elrond is my favorite i wanted you to know) #and elanor is her middle name and what she used in the blades but that's just a flower which yeah leara is big on roses #BUT ELANOR IS ALSO SAM'S DAUGHTER I CAN'T DO THAT #how did lin manuel miranda get on my likes playlist wth oh it's moana cool cool #anyway #coining a name like artanis felagund for a character has made me so twitchy that i have to do languages right now or not at all #ever look at aldmeris/altmeris and quenya and sindarin side by side and go 'huh there are a lot of crossover words what's up with that?' #BUT YOU KNOW IT'S BECAUSE TOLKIEN IS THE FATHER OF ELVISH AND ANY OTHER ELF LANGUAGE IS GOING TO BORROW #it's like uh oh he'd hate this comparison but it's like tolkien elvish is latin/greek and TES elvish is english #but yeah i brought maglor's name over into aldmeris so leara needed to be taken into quenya and sindarin #it's totally not because i'm still thinking of that hypothetical Skyrim/lotr leara/glorfindel fic #okay i am but it's even more pipedreamy than leara/astarion #keeping count is going to be 50+ chapters I am a COLLEGE STUDENT i am so tired please help me #I'm going to go make cookies in the air fryer now like an unhinged feral fey faerie child #which is what i am in case you were wondering which i note you WEREN'T #ahem #oc: leara roseblade #languages #mod post #BUT NO HOLD ON i don't know ANY D&D ELVISH WHATSOEVER but they told me astarion means little star and it's his childhood name #and i am like obviously because 'ion' means 'son of' in Sindarin and can easily become a diminutive suffix #i am dangerous around languages i can tell you where any cow is from just on the name alone its madness (is it? is it madness?) #okay now i'm done

[felizusnavidad]

i am taking over lin manuel miranda tag, pjo fandom get the fuck out of here if you have nothing good to say

#you guys are so insufferable #i swear to god this is the worst fandom ever #i am not talking about all of you but all those hate comments are pissing me off #you are not funny #you are annoying #you are ruining all the fun for those who actually enjoy it #and all those “i would also turn evil if he was my father” jokes are not funny #you guys know that he actually has kids right? shame on you #why do you have to be so mean? #you don't have to like him but wasting your energy on this is just fucking dumb #go touch some grass and leave this man alone #pjo #lin manuel miranda #but sincerely can you hear me?*

[immabitqueer]

Some of y'all like to act like lmm is not an experienced stage and film actor

#percy jackson #pjo show #pjo hoo toa #pjo #lin manuel miranda #hamilton musical #in the heights #<< im just tagging these two because i feel like they're really well know roles of his #im just saying some of you people like to hate on this man a little too much #their are problematic things about hamilton #and hamilton is very good on a lyrical acting and technical level #are two statements that can co-exist

[grilledcheeseandgravityfalls]

we are experiencing the final hours before percy jackson will only ever be depicted as a blond kid for the rest of time. pour one out for the interesting and varied character design everybody

#sitting on my porch eating a candy cigarette waiting for the fandom to get the 'no original design only depict the actors' disease for percy #i'm sorry i'm sorry i just hate it why is he BLOND #grover and annabeth are everything though. go off #pjo #percy jackson #i actually am very excited for this show i'm just going to be a hater about a couple specific elements. just a little bit #(the casting of lin manuel miranda)

[pythiaswine]

CAN I JUST TALK ABOUT HOW BAD I WANTED LMM TO LEGITIMIZE LAMS but i kept being let down over and over again like ughhhh. first he gives the Angelica relationship a whole song and subplot and yes it was great, the whole musical's a lyrical, compositional, choreographed masterpiece BUT WE AREN'T HERE TO DISCUSS THAT. we are here to talk about how his source material was biased because Chernow gave breath to the Angelica thing, as improbable as it was (especially compared to the probability of the Laurens/Hamilton relationship? homophobia.) but then picture it, I'm a young, naïve teenager, I'm very fixated on lams and history, I loved the Hamilton musical, was a Hamilton teen and that part of me is irreparably burned into my brain. then LMM drops this sneaky little tidbit like the beacon of wisdom his fans see him as bc he wrote a historical self-insert fanfic for broadway, he says the Laurens/Hamilton relationship was real. great! but he didn't actually put it in the musical and that disappointed me. And damn, okay, he had a few lines here and there in the off-broadway version that were cut but maybe that wasn't his fault or maybe he planned on fleshing it out more and had to cut it down to make it more palatable for the people sponsoring his ride to broadway, a pathetic excuse but it could make sense. For all that, I could have forgiven, forgotten, etc etc... but I will NEVER forget naïvely believing during the year the Hamildrops were released that we'd finally get a Laurens/Hamilton song. In April it didn't happen, I thought okay, maybe pride month. Didn't happen in pride month. Didn't even happen in September or October, or as a last-minute gay reveal in December. It just didn't happen at all. We even got some covers of songs that already existed without notable variations on the lyrics and it's like... bro couldn't have done the bare minimum and had a Laurens cover of Satisfied? That's the moment I was let down for real. I had truly BELIEVED that because he said himself that the Laurens/Hamilton relationship was real, he'd actually follow through on something that could be digested by the fans more than a forgotten tweet. but damn it hurt. absolutely no queer representation in a musical about Alexander Hamilton. bro. to play devil's advocate, there is no way to "prove" hamilton wasn't straight (eye-roll) but it's not like Hamilton: An American Musical is historically accurate in the least. It's embellished, fun, glamorous. It paints people in their best (unless you're charles lee lol) considering it's about a bunch of people who definitely were not kickass abolitionist BIPOC, but because LMM found it important to represent America today, he made the cast very inclusive to cultures and ethnicities of those these historical figures oppressed. so why can't he fictionalize the story a bit more? it's not even FICTION BRO it's literally more provable (and less problematic and more interesting) than the Angelica/Hamilton affair so WHYYYY. all i mean to say is, i was very let down and i can't appreciate the musical or LMM the same as I did when i was younger because now it gives me the straight-man ick. the "yeah they were gay!" for ++ points with the lgbtq+ fans but a severe lack of action. i hate that shit. real allies would say "fuck your homophobia, i'm publishing my art as it is even if i face backlash and censorship," because that's how shit gets done. it really really let me down, that's all, good night.

#also cheering for me now and found/tonight sucked #sorry to anybody who likes those songs #but you have to admit they were the weakest links #ben franklin's song was fun #weird al's was... interesting. not as good as the hamilton in 7 minutes a capella but whatever #i thoroughly enjoyed wrote my way out because hurricane was one of the most powerful songs to me #helpless by the regrettes was fun #but heterosexual #alexander hamilton #hamilton musical #lin manuel miranda #can we talk abt lmm x reader fics because i hate them. #lams #historical lams #ron chernow #explain why hamildrops included both a cover of burn and then first burn as well?? god just have anthony ramos cover Satisfied #it would have sedated me #historical john laurens #john laurens #lams deserved a song. #hamildrops #my post

[miss-crazy-rose]

Say what you want about Lin Manuel Miranda but personally I think he did a great job as Hermes

Percy describes Hermes as a chill, laid back guy, but who also always harbor sadness and guilt at any mention of Luke and May, and I think Lin portrayed that really well

#lin manuel miranda #hermes pjo #percy jackson #pjo #pjo show #personally I never understood the hate for lmm #if i’m missing some info on why ppl hate him please make me aware #he’s just the hamilton guy to me 🤷🏻‍♀️

[sureuncertainty]

the way everyone suddenly turned on lin manuel miranda on this website is so baffling to me lol

#win rambles #like you can feel however you want personally about his music but you cannot say that most of it is not objectively well written? #there's a reason why we don't talk about bruno topped the charts and was everywhere #sometimes... things that are popular.... are good #and like regardless of whatever you feel about a PERSON i don't understand this 'actually they're talentless' mindset #like i promise you you can just not like something. and just like. leave it at that #people do this to taylor swift too and act like her music is objectively bad which is just like. not true #but tumblr has always hated taylor swift overall i don't understand why we all just suddenly decided that lin manuel miranda is the worst #i literally just saw a post saying that anyone saying his music was good should go to hell and i am not exaggerating #like. can y'all be normal about things for 2 seconds??

[nothazellevesque]

honestly the hermes casting makes sense to me. if everyone else got parents that chose to look like pro wrestlers and famous comedians/actors and mine just decided to willingly walk around looking like lin manuel miranda???? oh id be murderous enough to overthrow the gods too

#pjo #pjo tv show #lin manuel miranda #look do i hate lin??? NO #but if i were a kid and my friends asked me which cool looking god was my parent and i had to point to HIM? #id probably just throw myself into the lake to spare myself the embarrassment #luke castellan #and you don’t even get powers!!! #you have the hamilton man for a dad and you get jack shit out of it but sleeping in an emergency shelter!!!! #percy jackon and the olympians #percy jackson

[newmsies]

"Why do you make not liking Hamilton your entire personality" I DON'T, but if people are just going to KEEP ON bringing it up even after i have specified 100 FUCKING times that i don't like it then i WILL make it my entire personality

#i can't stand it and i don't know why #i think i just hate most the actors except Daveed Diggs #fucking Lin Manuel Miranda. #i FUCKING hate him /hj #newmsies

[vulpixhoney]

for the people that think that the "hate" towards lmm is unwarranted:

he openly supported/lobbied for PROMESA, a bill that pushed for more control over PR by the US, and in that his parents, at least his father, has political power in PR. The effects of PROMESA included the shutdown of 200 public schools. Also after Hurricane Maria he put on a benefit show of Hamilton at the University, which seems good, however in doing so he displaced the students that had classes in that building. A lot of ppl (specifically Puerto Ricans) took and still take major issue with his choice to use tourism and create a spectacle as a way to "lend support". He chose to push the reliance on tourism (bad) in a territory that is currently under the control of their oppressors, WHO HE HAS SUPPORTED POLITICALLY THROUGH PROMESA. People also (rightfully) took issue with his choice to put on Hamilton at the benefit show. A musical that celebrates the founding fathers of a country that has historically and is still actively oppressing the locals of territory he's "helping". There were active protests during the musical over his support of PROMESA and the displacement of the students. You can say all you want about how it's just a silly little musical and doesn't mean anything, but playing Hamilton in PR while they were suffering from the effects of Maria is in poor taste at best. He centered himself and his musical over a disaster. He sold tickets to hurricane survivors "for them". It's in poor taste AT BEST.

This tweet thread puts it better than I can:

Also he fucking said the n-word. Just like straight up, that should be enough. But y'all like your silly little singing man too much. He said the n-word while recording an audiobook even though he was told he didn't need to/shouldn't say it. He's a grown man, he knows better.

#PeOpLe JuSt LiKe To HaTe ThInGs tO bE eDgY #eat my entire fucking ass i will haunt your grandchildren #get some nuance learn culture stop sucking imperialist dick my god #also i am aware that this isnt common knowledge #thats why im sharing it again #percy jackson #lin manuel miranda

[fireheartwraith]

Wait, Lin-Manuel Miranda is playing hermes?? For real????

#i don't know whether to love it or hate it here #so i'll just say #i am here #percy jackson #percy jackon and the olympians #pjo #painting #rick riordan #lin manuel miranda #hermes pjo

[maurypovichofficial2]

...

#i will never understand the Lin manuel miranda hate #ok yes Hamilton is not perfect and if the whole romanticising of slave owners turns you off #i get that its totally valid #but the people that are like nooooo im so sick of this guy please go away #like....i feel like more than half of them are just contrarians #is he cringe?? absolutely hes a theatre nerd #but at least hes not like James Corden #shoe horning himself into everything he can get his hands on #while at the same time being a GENUINELY awful person

[felizusnavidad]

maybe there's more context but i noticed a lot of the time, public criticism for projects lands really heavily on lmm's shoulders. the reason why i'm saying this is because i binged his projects and its reception. apparently, when in the heights 2021 came out, there was a lot of discourse about the lack of afro-latino representation in the movie: this itself is completely justifiable and good. we shouldn't be scared to critique and start conversations about media. but i was a bit confused because all of the blame was put on lin and not the director? maybe you can provide more context here: i know he's the show's original creator and is famous, so he's reasonably gonna get more scrutiny; and he did have a role as a producer, but he talked about how they tried to take out the piragua guy, etc. so i assumed he didn't have full control, and usually, the director is the main focus, no?

and of course that period where people hated the song in the little mermaid and the movie being eh was his fault, and even the bad songs in wish somehow being his fault (despite him not being part of that lmao). i'm an international fan that recently listened to in the heights and was really impressed, so i wasn't aware of all of this.

and then the projects of his that were well received seem to have this begrudging energy. people liking tick tick boom (which he directed) but heaping the praise on andrew garfield (who deserves it!!) and not any for lin? like wtf i thought y'all love to make him the sole focus of critique.

these are just my impressions based on some heavy online surfing, and i wanted to ask your opinion!

i actually agree with everything you said here, anon.

let's start with in the heights (2021). i don't know if you're one of my mutuals, but if you are, you probably know already that i am not afraid of criticizing the movie. maybe not because of the lack of representation (i am a white woman so i feel like it's not my place to say anything about this but i totally understand why others can feel excluded), i have other issues with it tho. but, as far as i can tell, lin was not responsible for the casting & yet he was the one who apologized. so they basically said they were talking about casting afro-latinos but they ended up with actors who were just perfect for the roles in their opinion (also, leslie grace, the actress who plays nina, is, in fact, afro-latina). & yes, they were trying to get rid of piragua guy, mostly because they couldn't find anyone who could play him & they asked lin if he could do it (he wasn't supposed to be in the movie AT ALL & he only agreed cause he wanted to save piragua guy). so yes, they put all the blame on lin but those were not exactly his choices. also, speaking of lack of representation, did we already forget about what he did for people of color on broadway? cause i saw so many people calling him racist & it's just... are you sure we are talking about the same guy?

about the scuttlebutt, i have so many things to say. well, first of all, lin was only responsible for like, three songs in the little mermaid? wild uncharted waters & for the first time? damn, those songs are really good & i know most people agree. but there's also the scuttlebutt. so the hate comes mostly from people who hate awkwafina & her voice in general, they find it annoying. well, guess what: this song was supposed to be annoying. maybe it's hard to say when you just listen to it without any context, but damn, just watch the movie & then it makes a lot of sense. second of all: the main audience? kids. & as far as i can tell, the kids absolutely loved it. not every song has to be a masterpiece, some songs are JUST FOR FUN, let's not forget about that. i know a lot of people also complain because it's rap, well guess what, this is lmm we are talking about so what did you expect? it's just his thing, it doesn't have to be everyone's cup of tea, but damn, it's not gonna change just because some people don't like it, deal with it.

speaking of tick tick boom, i absolutely loved the movie & i agree, andrew garfield was incredible, but yes, i haven't seen anyone talking about lin, like??? he literally directed it. i saw one comment on polish website tho that goes like "lin manuel miranda, keep this name in mind cause he's gonna be huge one day" & i was like oh boy, i have news for you... (i'm sorry i hate my country so fucking much).

i'm not even gonna say anything about disney's wish because there's no point. he had nothing to do with it, absolutely nothing, & people still blame him... this is just ridiculous. come on.

i saw a twitter thread some time ago where someone was trying to prove that lin is a bad person in general & honestly, spending so much time online just to prove that someone is problematic is insane to me. go touch some fucking grass instead of being a hater.

honestly, i wish i knew why people hate him so much, yes, i know he is not perfect & he made some mistakes in the past (he even apologized for some of them) but there are so many celebrities who are much more problematic & yet they will hate on lin & try to paint him as evil. i will never understand this.

#sorry i didn't mean to write the entire essay lol #but here we are #also i apologize if it's too chaotic #i obviously don't know everything & i have my own opinions but you know #i feel like people really hate him just for fun #which is no fun for me #lin manuel miranda #lmm #anon #i saved every letter you wrote me*

[vypridae]

oh my GOD if i see one more post about "hamilton is historically inaccurate" i'm gonna SCREAM it's a MUSICAL it's NOT GONNA BE 100% HISTORICALLY ACCURATE

i hate to rant on main but. my god y'all

there's only so much time that they can spend on any particular musical and hamilton is nearly 3 hours. they weren't bound to include peggy because she wasn't NEARLY as politically important or involved in hamilton's life- NOTE: I SAY POLITICALLY- as someone like eliza, or angelica, or maria.

sure, words like "okay" weren't used in the late 1700s to early 1800s BUT IT'S A SONG! it's supposed to tell the story, not be accurate entirely to the language back then. do you really think a song would be easily put together with huge sentences and shit like they ACTUALLY spoke in that time? it's meant to make the audience laugh, it's meant to make us feel interested and for some people, hearing huge sentences with tons of words you don't understand like that makes it hard to keep focus (enter me, i say in parantheses /ref)

it's fine if you don't like hamilton, it is. but it's meant to be fun. not 100% historically accurate. i just got into the fandom, like, a week ago and even i know that. because it's a MUSICAL -- not everything is going to BE accurate. some stuff HAS to be left out because there's not enough time to tell every perspective and aspect of the story.

lin manuel-miranda is a great storyteller with music and is a great songwriter. thank you for coming to my tedtalk.

#hamilton #hamilton musical #lin manuel miranda #lin manuel appreciation post #hamilton: an american musical #hamilton broadway #hamilton original broadway cast #rant #i hate ranting / discourse posts but MY GOD #i just wanna see hamdom posts. let me see them without feeling bad for liking a fandom that isnt 100 percent perfect!!!!!!!!!