#ITS ABOUT TOG

[deathsweetblossoms]

I’m sorry but this is the fandom response to a stag being the wrong color? To Manon not looking how everyone imagined?

Okay now think about what’s going to happen when the next book is announced and it’s not an individuals preferred ship? Or when it’s a character they hate as the MC?

End of the day, this is not normal. Fandom is usually a crazy space but this is unprecedented and you really have to wonder why.

#SORRY but im always going to argue that BB and SJM should have more communication and presence #and it doesn’t need to be SJM herself #everyone knows celebrities hire SM managers to do that #this isn’t even ABOUT THE SHIP WAR #ITS ABOUT TOG #HOW FUCKING HARD IS IT TO PUT OUT A STATEMENT SAYING THEY SUPPORT ARTISTS #ESPECIALLY WHEN THEYVE BEEN PROFITING OFF THEM FOR YEARS IN LIEU OF OFFICIAL ADVERTISING

[youssefguedira]

behold, the product of yesterday's lotr au discussion (for @spacegirlsgang)

Nicolò has not spoken to him in days.

He hasn't spoken to anyone. He walks silently at Yusuf's side, hand always on his sword, eyes always on the horizon. When there are people who need it, he helps, tends wounds and lifts the younger ones onto horses and hands out food. He still does not speak, and Yusuf worries for him.

They have already lost Quynh, and Sebastien. Dizzy and Jay may well be dead by now for all they know, and Nile and Lykon… he does not really want to think about it for long. He only hopes they are alive. And now Andromache, too, is gone, and Nicolò will not speak, and Yusuf cannot help feeling very, very alone without him. It is strange: Yusuf would have thought, just a week or two ago, that he would have been glad never to see Nicolò again. Now, the thought terrifies him.

When they make camp that night, Yusuf takes his place by the fire with his sword across his lap and prepares to keep watch. Nicolò joins him, after a while, but instead of taking a seat and silently watching the horizon as Yusuf has come to expect him to, he speaks.

"You should rest," he says, voice hoarse as if – well, as if he hasn't used it in days. He carries two bowls of stew, one of which he passes to Yusuf.

"So should you," Yusuf responds. He's exhausted, but neither of them have slept much – he's not sure Nicolò has slept at all since they lost Andromache.

"I do not need to sleep like you do," Nicolò says, which almost makes Yusuf laugh.

"Bullshit," he says. "Even you can't go this long without needing to rest."

Nicolò doesn't say anything to that. Doesn't even meet Yusuf's eyes, but Yusuf can tell how tired Nicolò truly is, and suddenly he cannot bear it anymore.

"We cannot keep on like this," Yusuf says. "This is not – if we're all that's left, I cannot do this without you, Nicolò."

Nicolò is quiet, for a while. When he finally speaks, he says, "Try to rest, Yusuf. I will keep watch tonight."

Yusuf waits. Nicolò does not move, nor show any sign of conceding. Just as stubborn as Andromache – well. He doesn't let himself finish that thought.

He waits a little longer, but Nicolò remains silent.

"Wake me for the second watch, then," Yusuf says, finally. Nicolò does not nod, but Yusuf no longer has the strength in him to push. He falls asleep quickly.

When he wakes, it is morning, and Nicolò is nowhere to be seen. Yusuf can only hope he found someone else for the second watch, and that he did not stay awake all night, but he would not be surprised if the latter were true.

During the day, they keep to their regular routine – Nicolò's silence and Yusuf's attempts to find anything to do that isn't think too much – but that night, when Nicolò finds him, he sets his sword down by his side and asks, "Will you wake me for the second shift?"

Yusuf nods quickly, too quickly, and Nicolò smiles, though it is small. It's the first time Yusuf's seen him smile in days.

He wakes Nicolò for the second shift and sleeps after that, and the next night, Yusuf takes the first and Nicolò the second.

It's a start, at the very least.

–

The day after they reach Helm's Deep, Nicolò is the first to see the rider.

He does not realise who it is at first: the figure is too distant. They wear a cloak with the hood pulled low over their face, and lean heavily over their horse, as if injured.

Nicolò's first thought is that it is a scout. His second thought, which he discounts quickly, is that it is Andromache, which. It cannot be. He does not dare imagine it.

When the figure keeps approaching, he shouts a warning to the guards on the walls. Yusuf, who had fallen asleep beside him, his back against the stone, startles awake. "What is it?" he asks, still half-asleep.

"I do not know, yet," Nicolò responds. He gets to his feet. Yusuf follows a moment later.

"I see it, now," Yusuf says, furrowing his brow. Nicolò's hand goes to his bow, just in case. If it is a scout, he will deal with them quickly.

Then, suddenly, Yusuf's eyes go wide, and he curses. Taps Nicolò twice on the shoulder, and runs along the wall, down the stairs, towards the gate, shouting at the guards to open it.

Nicolò looks again, then, and realises what Yusuf has seen. The rider's weapon is just visible over their right shoulder, and Nicolò knows the carvings on its handle, knows them because they are the twin of the carvings on the hilt of his hunting dagger, because both weapons were forged by the same person.

He is moving before he truly has time to process the thought. The gates are opened far too slowly, creaking with the movement, and by the time he can see the rider again she is sitting straighter in the saddle, a wide grin on her face, urging her horse forward. It is only Yusuf's hand on his arm that keeps him from running through the gates to greet her; when Nicolò looks back at him, his smile is bright enough to rival the midday sun.

Andromache.

Finally, she is there, riding through the gates like a king returning to her kingdom, like she had planned this all along, like Nicolò hadn't seen her fall from a cliff only a few days ago. She dismounts easily, before the horse has even fully stopped, and then he is running, and she is meeting him halfway and gathering him into her arms and laughing, even as he thinks he starts crying.

Then Yusuf is there too, and Nicolò has to step back but cannot bring himself to go far, and Andromache hugs him too, while Yusuf laughs, bright and loud.

"Where have you been," he is saying, and "I thought you were dead, Andromache, I thought we had lost you," and she laughs again and cups the back of his neck with one hand and says, "I'm okay, Nico, I'm okay."

"So," Andromache says once Yusuf steps back, too, her grin sharp despite how exhausted she must be. "Tell me what I've missed."

#neon writes #tog lotr au #the old guard #look. i have Feelings abt it #firstly. helm's deep is the Major turning point for joe and nicky's relationship but we're starting to lay the groundwork here #i think they're not quite there with talking about feelings yet. but on their way #nicolò a) letting yusuf sleep through the night and b) actively asking him to take the first watch (i.e. listening to him when yusuf says h #needs to rest) is really. its something for me #i don't know if the thing about elves not needing to sleep much is true just go with me on this one. also if ive mixed up timelines its in #service of the Brain Worms. ok #in the actual hypothetical longfic this would be interspersed with other sections / the reunion might be from another pov #the bit about blacksmith andy is one of my favourite details about this au #she makes quynh's necklace AND nicky's knife n him being able to recognise her by the design of her axe because it's the same as that of hi #knife. Yeah it's important to me #anyway mary as always i hope you like this <3 and thank you for continually enabling the brain worms

[eggs-can-draw]

Hello and welcome to Togami Time because I was hit with worms like a freight train and I need it to be known that he's one of my favorites (ALSO THE WOMAN EVER POLARIS P POLANSKI)

#eggs can art #danganronpa #byakuya togami #polaris p polanski #shuichi saihara #only a little bit but I care their dynamic so so so os so much so he gets to be tagged #you can thank The Discord tm for the first couple togs #also the plural of togami is togs now #I feel so much better about how I draw him now I'm gonna tack down his colors at some point soon #hes the popular girl at school its just inherent

[scorchedhearth]

can you even imagine all the people who made andy carry on with life without even knowing? a merchant handing her food when she was traveling pennyless, some family who gave her a roof during a storm, a soldier sharing cot with her and telling her stories from their hometown while they wait, a child giving her their toy after playing with her an afternoon, just. random people who met her when she was falling and helped her stand for a few more months, a few more years, without ever knowing that their act of kindness did more than they could ever imagine to andy

#i am once again thinking about andy witnessing human history on a scope you cannot grasp and coming out of this more human than anyone #she saw deserts apear and entire constellations change and in the end its someone bandaging her that made her carry on. #tog #andromache the scythian

[empty-dream]

Is himbo still a word cuz he is the himbo Khun

#tower of god #tog spoilers #khun marco asensio #myart #mypic #faction leader yes #sweet dumb also yes #if Hachuling is a cool older brother #Asensio is definitely the loser older brother #the dangerous guy hes talking about with AA #I think its either Hachuling or the guy that stops the Hell Train #im betting the latter

[peri-helia]

Getting to see deleted scenes, especially ones that are more fanservice scenes that eventually got shortened or taken out is so important to me. it's a little au of the scene and sometimes its closer to how I envisioned a scene would go and sometimes it isn't but I still love to see it. it's a little more of the universe and adaptation I've come to love and that's always a treat

#this is specifically about the cut scenes in jane eyre where rochester runs down the corridor and pleads with jane #bc its so extra #and I'm glad they took it out in both 2006 and 2011 bc it didn't fit both times #but its a fun slightly over the top alternate version of how that scene could go #and I love it overall as a movie extra #TOG deleted scenes WHEN #jane eyre #jane eyre 2006

[the-messenger-hawk]

Worth

"you don't need to be more”

#ja wangnan #25th bam #jue viole grace #the twenty fifth bam #tower of god #wangbam #wangviole #tog wangnan #tog bam #i can almost taste wangnan's degeneration arc coming #it's a matter of time #and its gonna be sad but please #every now and then I think about the karmic reversal of this #like repayment and just...feelings ugh #// #i have too many arts in my drafts...

[deathsweetblossoms]

"No, Lorcan’s magic was that of will—of death and thought and destruction. There was no name for it."

...so.. like an Illyrian?

#tog is a hot mess #thank you to daisybrekker for making a list of chapters to read if you're only interested in the ships #im sorry ive tried about 15 times to get into this series and i simply cannot #this is the only way its going to happen #LOL #bc i love dorian and manon and elorcan looks like something right up my alley #so here we go #inara tries to read tog #but this time its in pieces #which is probably better #(only the elorcan chapters)

[fullmetalscullyy]

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#back in my 2018 era #where all i care about it sam cortland #yes tog is great fun its great drama its a wild ride (affectionate) <3 #BUT SAM #MY BELOVED #MY HEART AND SOUL #elide and lorcan currently own my delusions but s a m. sam. u would have been great #i care about 3 things and they are ⬆️ #maeve is on her bullshit? hmmmmmmmmmm ok but what about elide? 👀 how's she doing bestie 👀 how's lorcan how is he coping 👀👀 #i Need To Know <3 #aelin is some kinda box and rowan out there going full pelt yaaaass we love to see it buthowaretheytwocoping 👀👀👀👀👀 #emma talks #tog

[youssefguedira]

in my head nile expects nicky to be a Coffee Purist™ but then the first time they go to a coffee shop for whatever reason nicky orders the most sugar loaded brightly colored barely even coffee drink he can get and nile just kinda stands there with her americano blinking at him

#neon has thoughts #nicky's a big fan of pumpkin spice i think. so is joe #my personal non-jokey Tog Food Thesis is that sometimes theyre picky about things to be funny (especially around nile) and they have things #they prefer but at the end of the day they just enjoy how much easier it is to get and how readily available different ingredients are #like my Joenicky Food Thesis™ is joe likes lavender ice cream and nicky likes stew but #i think all of them love trying different stuff especially if its just. Weird. or something they wouldn't have been able to get in their #first life. anyway this started as a stupid coffee post and turned into Character Stuff but the point still stands

[nicojoe]

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#1) it's not the fact that it's about the crusades it's the huge red flag that apparently flashbacks are the first thing on the #chopping block when netflix wants to tighten the budget while major action sequences go untouched #(think about how Netflix has prioritized its original films since RED NOTICE and since their stock started tumbling...) #(as I type this the action-bloated THE GRAY MAN is barely over 56% on RT) #2) character development/relationship dynamics is what made TOG stand out in a sea of sludge and flashbacks are a major #source of character-development particularly when dealing with beings who are CENTURIES old (show me... don't tell me) #3) nicky and joe are obviously not the main characters but they are very much part of the main group and their mere existence #(particularly joe's) often feels revolutionary in this shitty industry; every other old immortal getting a character-building flashback #except them doesn't sit right... i don't care about battlefields i just want a moment of them connecting/their relationship evolving #and after TTT i'm a bit wary of how often Yusuf's *history* as a queer MENA muslim immortal has been overlooked #(why wouldn't you want more flashbacks if they're used efficiently and show the sheer amount of time this group has spent together?) #(why even make a movie about immortal characters if you're not going to delve into the dizzying span of their respective lives even a bit?) #(it's not about the crusades being in the movie or not - it's that this suggests that netflix has de-prioritized flashbacks *in general*) #personal #will probably delete later #(i don't want my complete lack of faith in netflix to bring y'all down lol)

[scorchedhearth]

would love to hear more about how you understand andromache’s views on their own gender!! noticed you used they/them pronouns for andy :))

oh, thank you :> short answer is: they're MY fav so i get to project and live through the fictional character <3

long answer: i think andy's relationship with gender is both incredibly complex and really easy. not to get into history and queer history too much but historically gender has been much more complex than the modern and western binary we have now, so it makes sense for me to have andy, a character older than written language and alphabet, have a hard time fitting into the two neat boxes we have nowadays. i think andy has navigated through so many cultures and so many periods where the cultural understanding of gender, of what's feminine and what's masculine and what other options there are in between, can change drastically that their own understanding of gender will reflect that. can't say your own identity is x fixed thing when you've witnessed 4 different cultures in the same decade that have 4 completely different and opposite answers to what it means, where attitudes and expectations of individuals shift accordingly. if doing and feeling these things make you masculine in one but will be understood as being feminine in the other then what does it mean about you? this will lead to questions and self-reflection on your identity. even read with our modern/western standard, andy has both feminine and masculine traits, they fight and are rough and quite cold at times, the designated protector of the other immortals, their leader and boss, but they're also caring, open with their love and feelings, shown having roles and careers other than plain fighting, they're also the mother of multiple children in canon, and it makes me think that their understanding of their self would reflect that, reflect this lack of strictly defined gender

and without this historical and cultural aspect, without these outside inputs, i think andy would feel disconnected and out of touch with others, i think even in their first life there already was this feeling of otherness, of not fitting in so well and wanting to be something else. the way i see the character, and how i think they see themselves, is being in this constant state of in between, not being able to settle down fully in one thing despite trying hard to belong because of the immortality and their long, long life and long, long memory but also something that was there since the beginning, an existence outside the defined codes. which leads me to the easy part i mentioned: andy is andy. they may change names, change centuries and continents but, just like their mother's axe and just like the ship of theseus, andy is andy, and yes they are an anomaly but also terribly human, and it's an easy understanding they have now. others' perceptions of me will always change but i am certain in who i am and what i am. so while they'll use gendered terms in canon and call themselves mother and woman but also for various purposes use masculine ones like passing as a man for some missions, etc. and they are comfortable in navigating these gender and cultural norms, putting them on like clothes and shifting according to what's needed at the moment from them; deep down they see their person as detached from it, existing beyond, constantly shifting and at the same solid in its foundation.

and to me, using neutral pronouns is the easiest shortcut to try and get across these feelings and complex relationships with their gender

#and also andy was the first character i wrote using neutral pronouns and i swear it soothed something in me to read a piece i wrote with #my own hands about a nonbinary character. it felt validating like admitting and accepting something about myself #so its also something very personal im doing when i trans characters like that. self healing or something #tags are for being painfully honest the post is for the in-depth analysis <3 #asks #sapphic wu san #thank you so much for asking <3 feel free to tell me what you think about it!! would love to talk some more about this topic #tog #andromache the scythian

[alessandramortt]

Just saw a post about how if you don't romance than in hades you're a cishet man lmao it's far from that, no homo ain't even a factor, I just love women more, always, in any situation

#you dont gotta be a cishet man not to like mlm not everything revolves around men pls #hes cute but dusas cuter #so its meg > dusa > than in that order #hades game #stop reducing queerness to liking mlm or not #im gayer than most mlm ships fanbases and i still dont care for them lmao #mt #megzag #dusazag #anti thanzag #not really but im glad more ppl feel...a lil annoyed by it #whereas tog fandom for Instance is annoyed when the entire tag isnt about jn

[heewongirl]

Tower of god is my twsa

#Personal #Look its def not like kdj and twsa i understand but this means so much to me really. It IS the reason i kept going #Had this realisation after i reread the third season and i forgot how much i loved tower of god fr. #I hv been reading for about 5 or 6 years now i am upset i wasn't there since the beginning but i couldn't hv been anyway #It's been there for abt 10 years now #I am not in the fandom tho✋ but i loveee tog #It's due to the information overload i think there's just so much to learn about so many characters and just a massive world SIU has built. #I am grateful. #13 year old me was so enamored by it my heart used to beat so loud thinking about tog.. when i was so upset i would just wait for the next #update... I clearly hv lost some of the enthusiasm but i am glad there still is something out there. #I selfishly hope.. itd never end. I used to wish to not die before tower of god ends but maybe now i wish I'd die before it ends so i #Wouldn't hv to live in a world like that. Yes i am normal about media.

[poquito-burrito]

I have about 100pages maybe less left in the book I'm reading -Queen of Shadows- and I'm currently in class and will be until 6pm and I'm trying so hard not to read everything right now. I'm trying my best to wait until I get home and gobble down the final chapters of the book, knowing damn well it's gonna be a hell of a ride and full of plot twists and shit because it's Sarah j Maas and when has she ever written a book without a thousand different revelations in the last 100pages ? I'm bracing myself while also foaming at the mouth like a rabid dog wanting to bite down on that last part of the story. Litteraly have been reading in class up until the final Act of the book. If I keep on reading now I clearly will have to stop during the day and get back to it tonight and it'll cut the flow of the story and and and I JUST DON'T WANNA WAIT I NEED THE END

Me currently

#its fucking 12pm #I HAVE 6 MORE HOURS TO WAIT MAYBE MORE SINCE THERE'S THE WHOLE BUS RIDE AND HOME AND EVERYTHING #about to pass out from frustration #sjm #stream of thots #sarah j maas #tog #throne of glass #aelin galathynius #rowan whitethorn #dorian havilliard #chaol westfall #lysandra #aedion ashryver #nesryn faliq #crown of midnight #heir of fire #queen of shadows #books #manon blackbeak

[the-messenger-hawk]

Do you think the reason why no one seems to know what Rak is is because his tribe is very isolated, or because he lives on a Floor that no one goes to or really explores?

#i don't remember what has been explained about his tribe #but apparently its rare for his kind to climb the tower #rak wraithraiser #tower of god #tog rak