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trek-tracks · 2 years
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The funny thing is, I think the Kobayashi Maru is a very odd test, psychologically, depending on what it’s actually trying to determine. It changes over time.
Particularly after it’s been around for a while, you know it’s unwinnable going into it. Not only does that promote a sense of fatalism, but it paradoxically absolves the participant of any responsibility. If you can’t win, then you can rest secure that it wasn’t your fault, your choices didn’t matter, and the system was rigged against you. It’s not an especially good lesson to teach, though I suppose it does get you ready for evil Starfleet admirals and bureaucracy.
In a way, what Kirk did was more than change the conditions of the test for himself; by opening up the possibility of winning, he changed the psychological value of the test for everyone who came after him.
This raises the question: what is the Kobayashi Maru test really trying to measure, and what kind of captain is Starfleet really looking for? Someone who will accept an unwinnable situation with grace, or someone who knows the situation can’t be won, but fights anyway?
…or, possibly, someone who can change the parameters of a situation before it even happens?
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commander-jbennett · 2 months
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If Starfleet ever changes the colors around, I'll always go with Red because I'm qualified in each division to a point. Mostly sciences...to be honest....but I went with engineering red because the aesthetic. I feel I'm least qualified in command, but can do it...I did take the required classes after gaining the Commander rank just in case I'd have to ever take over.
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silly-cherries · 7 months
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dazai and dostoyevsky (the bsd ones) absolutely pull a kirk and pass the kobayashi maru and i am not taking arguments
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plusanimablog · 11 months
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Chapter 30: What You Protect
So, if anyone remembers, Senri needs his eyepatch in order to retain his sense of self, according to his flashback. And Upas just cut it off...
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Yeah, he turns were-bear. And has the same white tuft on his forehead like Amurui had. Upas jumps in to fight him because violence has been working like a charm so far, right? Cooro moves to save the eyepatch and wonders what to do before everyone is interrupted by a loud roar. Senri runs off towards it and Upas guesses that it was Amurui...despite literally half of the details we were provided with in the last chapter. Yeah, egg on his face, amirite? Cooro wants to follow after him but Nana, traumatized by the sight of her friend in that state, refuses. Cooro understands and says he'll return with Senri safe and less hairy.
So Shira is fighting the Amurui in his wolf form, telling his tribesmen to take care of Iggy. He gets thrown off as Amurui turns towards the tribesmen and Iggy...only for Senri to jump in and clock him one.
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Husky is shocked at Senri's state and Cooro shows up to explain the situation to him. Shira clears that the Amurui is the son of the Amurui bear that killed Riiya. He's another Anima that's gone insane. He's fighting to avenge his dad too.
Anyway, the fight goes in Senri's favor, him winning via stabbing the Amurui in the back with his claws. Victory! He's told to retract them...he doesn't. Time to Upas to step in...again.
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Thankfully, Cooro flies in and reapplies the blindfold to Senri, bringing back his consciousness but Senri is still freaking out regardless. Then Husky runs in, trips, finds Senri's book and runs in again to show Senri his journal, threatening to tear it to shreds if he doesn't chill the fuck out right now. Now Senri remembers everybody. Group hug.
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(In case you're wondering, the tribesmen are still watching and one even says, "Just like that?". Yeah, pal. Just like that. Can't kill your way out of every problem, unfortunately.)
So Iggy failed the test at the mountain and is bummed. But Shira says that he is mistaken; he passed his test at the mountain. He discovered his weakness and now he recognizes nature as the strongest on the planet. Shira says that Kimunkles believe that on this vast earth, they are the keepers of the land.
You guys figure that out, we're back to the group. Husky points that while he can remember the group, he still doesn't his past or any of his people. Upas says that's for the best and it's the group responsibility to protect Senri from himself.
The chapter ends with Cooro spilling the beans over Husky's Mermaid Princess past in front of Upas, resulting in an asskicking.
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chimaerakitten · 2 years
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I think one of the big strengths of fanfiction as a medium is that it can, on average, assume the reader has a way higher degree of familiarity with canon than like…canon can. If you’re in the Star Wars AO3 tag you probably like Star Wars enough to remember more things about it than the average Star Wars-enjoying-ten-year-old. Which makes it way easier for fanwriter a to get to the juicy stuff and really engage with the worldbuilding or minor characters without having to spell out like. Who Wedge Antilles is for everyone who forgot or never noticed him in the first place. You could write a book about Wedge in the old EU because EU readers could also be assumed to be serious fans, but you can’t make a new canon Disney+ show about him. Those cost money to make and are intended for a broader audience.
And all this means that like. A good fic writer can and often will surpass canon when it comes to like. Thematic resonance and stuff, because they can really dig into something. Star Trek 2009 gave Kirk a new, more generic tragic backstory because it couldn’t expect the average moviegoer to be familiar with Kirk’s old, way more interesting tragic backstory. (Frankly, I’m not sure jj abrams knew about TOS Kirk’s backstory) whereas I have read a LOT of well-written, interesting, deeply resonant fanfic examinations of Tarsus IV, and what it means for Kirk’s character that he’s a genocide survivor. Star Trek 2009 answers the question “why did Kirk cheat on the kobayashi maru?” With “‘cause his dad crashed a spaceship when he was a baby.” A close examination of TOS canon implies the answer is “because he lived through a real-life Kobayashi that did have a win option, but which wasn’t taken.” BUT—and this is significant—even the TOS canon movies can’t really assume knowledge of the full TOS tv show, so that implication is never examined or made explicit. Instead it’s fanfic (and maybe spin off novels? Idk I’ve only read 2 trek books, if there’s one out there that covers this that would be really cool) where we get dives into that thread, where Kirk gets a commendation for original thinking because he can look a testing board in the eye and say “I’ve seen what happens when someone is entrenched in this kind of thinking, and I cannot let it happen to me. I understand the lesson, but it’s not hypothetical anymore and it never will be. I did what I had to do.” And that’s interesting! That’s meaningful! That can’t happen in a summer blockbuster. But it can happen in fic, easily, and that’s a strength of fic, I think.
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dimension20official · 2 months
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Arthur Aguefort sees the Kobayashi Maru test and says "absolutely not"
Watch the full episode on Dropout
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The Kobayashi Alternative (or the 1000 deaths of James T. Kirk)
Finished this game (a text adventure) recently, and oh God, what a glorious mess it was!
The frame story (which only appears in the manual, by the way) places you as a Starfleet Academy cadet, playing a simulation of one of Kirk's famous missions, as a sort of alternative to the infamous Kobayashi Maru test (hence the title). But the actual game revolves around Kirk's mission, trying to find Sulu, who has disappeared in the Trianguli sector. And you're given complete freedom to explore the area and planets in whatever order you choose, and to mess the game in whatever way you want.
And that's my main point of interest here. I've witnessed so, SO many deaths for poor Kirk, because of my ill-advised decisions... Falling into craters, being run over by lava from a (not-so-extinct) volcano, sinking in quicksand, being eaten by a dragon, falling into a moat (and then being eaten), beaming down to a planet with a temperature of -250° in just my uniform (because why not?), or the more gruesome version of beaming down to a no-atmosphere planet without a spacesuit. It's also possible to return to Earth without finishing the mission, just like that, which gets you court-martialed. Or beam down some unsuspecting redshirt to a dangerous area, and to his unavoidable death (which here causes a Game-Over, very much unlike the series). Want to swear at someone until the crew arrests you for bad conduct? Check. *For the record, these are the swear words I found to work: bitch, bastard, suck, c*ck, f*ck, ass (use them in any combination you see fit). There's also many crazy things to do, which don't necessarily lead to a game over. Leave poor Scotty stranded on a planet and depart without him (good luck when you need something from Engineering). Or make Spock mindmeld with clay. Or tell McCoy to enter Spock's quarters, and just leave him there for the rest of the game. There's a planet with aliens that are offended by clothes and will put you in jail for wearing them (well, this is inaccurate, because James Tits-Out Kirk would definitely beam down naked, if it would help the mission... and make sure to video-call Spock right before doing so).
Anyway, despite being a primitive game from 1985, I'm impressed by the sheer amount of possibilities and open-ended options in this game. The graphic adventures from the 90's (25th Anniversary, and specially Judgement Rites) are much, much better games overall. But I wanted to talk a bit about these, more obscure text adventures.
If anyone's interested in playing them, I've found the best way is through this custom installer here, which includes all three adventures: https://collectionchamber.blogspot.com/p/star-trek-first-contact.html It automatically runs the games through an emulator for modern systems, and has the last version of Kobayashi Alternative (which is very important, since previous versions were buggy as hell). First Contact uses the same engine of Kobayashi, but since it's a much linear and smaller game, it's obvious a lot of options go un-used. The Promethean Prophecy is a more traditional text adventure. It has some ingenious puzzles, but I found its typical plot of "go there and collect gems" less Trek-like.
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your-name-is-jim · 10 months
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Sooo I've just started reading The Wrath of Khan novelization (this is right after Saavik's Kobayashi Maru test) and... Oh My God.
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I just need to remind myself that I'm not reading an Old Married Spirk fanfiction.
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brainrockets · 2 months
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The Last Stand results made me laugh in Star Trek. We made a Kobayashi Maru, but as we ALL KNOW Kobayashi Maru is fucking bullshit.
A skateboarding LOtR pun, poking fun at Star Trek and the concept of no win tests, Siobhan knowing the Elvish for Friend because she's a giant nerd.
All the callbacks to past episodes. The joy of stamps. Shrimp and crab monsters.
This episode had everything.
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anonymousewrites · 13 days
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Logos and Pathos (AOS Edition) Chapter Three
AOS! Spock x Empath! Reader
Chapter Three: After the Academy
Summary: (Y/N) and Spock have become friends and run a simulation for a very strange cadet, Cadet Kirk.
            “Cadet Kirk is trying the Kobayashi Maru again?” said (Y/N), walking towards the testing observation room with Spock. “This is the third time.”
            A few years had passed since their first meeting. Spock and (Y/N) had, surprisingly, become friends. Well, it had been a surprise to everyone else, but to them, it made perfect sense. (Y/N) could sense emotions, yes, but they were very logical and intelligent. Spock respected that. And because Spock saw beyond the labels others had put on them, (Y/N) respected him. The two were known for working very well together and being an efficient, effective team.
            “It appears so,” said Spock. “He still has not understood the true test of the program.”
            (Y/N) sighed and shook their head. “He gets frustrated, not scared. He has the intelligence and resourcefulness to do well—after all, he started a year after Uhura but caught up—but this is the one thing he hasn’t understood yet.”
            Spock nodded in agreement. “Perhaps a third loss will teach him the psychological lesson.”
            “Well, psychologically speaking, I have to admit, he’s tenacious,” said (Y/N). “Not a terrible quality.”
            “We shall see what other qualities he displays this time,” said Spock.
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            “We are receiving a distress signal from the U.S.S. Kobayashi Maru,” said Uhura, voice bored with the redundant situation she’d been put in since Kirk wanted to try the test for the third time. “This ship has lost power and is stranded. Starfleet Command has ordered us to rescue them.”
            “ ‘Starfleet Command has ordered us to rescue them, Captain,’ ” said Kirk from his place on the fake bridge.
            “I believe the human word for this bravado is ‘cocky,’ ” said Spock from behind the observation glass.
            “That would be the common vernacular,” agreed (Y/N). “And his emotions confirm it.” They cocked their head. “Strange, though. He doesn’t seem worried about the results of this test at all.”
            “Could it be he’s desensitized to failure now?” said Spock, considering the options.
            “His had less anxiety the second time he took the test, just more frustration,” said (Y/N). “But he has absolutely none now. That doesn’t seem likely. He should still have some worry about failing.”
            “Hm.” Spock laced his fingers and gazed at the test as it continued. “Let me know if his feelings change.”
            “Do you think he’s up to something?” asked (Y/N).
            “I do not jump to conclusions. I need more facts to make any educated hypotheses,” said Spock.
            “You’re making a guess,” said (Y/N).
            “No, it’s an educated hypothesis,” said Spock.
            (Y/N)’s smiled in amusement and shook their head.
            “Two Klingon vessels have entered the neutral zone and are locking weapons on us,” said Bones—real name Leonard McCoy—another cadet in his final year and a friend of Kirk.
            “That’s okay,” said Kirk confidently.
            “That’s okay?” repeated Bones incredulously.
            “Yeah, don’t worry about that,” said Kirk, leaning back in his chair.
            “Did he say, ‘don’t worry about it?’ ” said another test operator.
            “Is he not taking the simulation seriously?” said a third.
            “He’s…amused,” said (Y/N), blinking. “And happy.” They crossed their arms. “Put that together, and he’s gloating.”
            “Gloating?” repeated Spock, furrowing his brow ever-so-slightly.
            (Y/N) and Spock had the same thought. What could Kirk be gloating about?
            “Three more Klingon warbirds decloaking and targeting out ship.” Bones looked back at Kirk and sarcastically added, “I don’t suppose this is a problem, either.”
            “They’re firing, Captain,” warned another cadet.
            “Alert medical Bay to prepare to receive all crew members from the damaged ship,” said Kirk, calm and nonchalant as ever.
            “And do you expect us to rescue them when we’re surrounded by Klingons, ‘Captain?’ ” pointed out Uhura.
            Kirk just spun around in his chair. “Alert Medical.”
            “Our ship is being hit. Shields at sixty percent,” warned Bones.
            “I understand,” said Kirk.
            “Well, should we, I don’t know, fire back?” said Bones.
            “No,” said Kirk, pulling out an apple and taking a bite.
            “Of course not,” muttered Bones.
            The lights on all the displays flickered. (Y/N) frowned. That wasn’t in the program. Spock had it running smoothly. Any glitches were when he improved it and tested it himself. For cadets, it was efficient and timed to perfection.
            “What is this? What’s going on?” wondered the confused test operators.
            “Spock, is this a new part of the test? Equipment failure?” said (Y/N).
            “I would have informed you beforehand. You know that,” said Spock.
            “I do,” said (Y/N). “But then that leaves us the question…what is going on?”
            The computers came back on, and the cadets looked around in confusion before focusing on the readouts (Uhura was the first to concentrate, which (Y/N) noticed proudly).
            “Arm photons. Prepare to fire on the Klingon warbirds,” said Kirk.
            “Yes, sir,” said a cadet.
            “Jim, their shields are still up,” said Bones.
            Kirk took a bite of his apple. “Are they?” His amusement grew.
            Bones turned to look at his readout, and his face fell into an expression of shock. “No, they’re not.”
            “Fire on all enemy ships,” ordered Kirk cheerfully. “One photon each should do. Let’s not waste ammunition.”
            “Target locked and acquired on all warbirds. Firing,” said another cadet.
            On the displays, the Klingon warbirds exploded as they were hit by photons. Kirk mimed pistols as he chewed his apple.
            “All ships destroyed, Captain,” said Uhura in a mix of being impressed, frustrated, and shocked.
            Kirk stood up. “So, we have managed to eliminate all enemy ships, no one onboard was injured, and the successful rescue of the Kobyashi Maru crew is underway.” He took another bite of apple and looked at the test operators smugly.
            “How the hell did that kid beat your test?” said an operator, turning to question the programmer himself.
            “I do not know,” said Spock.
            (Y/N) didn’t need to sense his emotions to know he was frustrated. Spock didn’t like not knowing.
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            “It isn’t possible to beat your test. It’s designed to demonstrate failure,” said (Y/N).
            “And yet Cadet Kirk did,” said Spock. “I don’t believe there is a flaw in the current program, but I must investigate every possibility.” He was running through the code as they spoke. “There.” He tapped on the code. “A subroutine. Recently installed.”
            “I suspect—hypothesize—it was by Kirk,” said (Y/N). “He wasn’t surprised by the change in the test and wasn’t worried beforehand. That suggests he knew about it.” They crossed their arms. “It was clever, but it’s cheating.”
            “Indeed,” said Spock, nodding.
            Between his discovery of the subroutine and (Y/N)’s deductions—which made logical sense even from their empathic observations—they had all the evidence they needed to convene a hearing. Spock was fortunate to have (Y/N) as his partner in his work. Their skill and hard work made everything easier. Better.
            “We should go and submit our claim, then,” said (Y/N), turning to leave.
            “(L/N),” said Spock. “Thank you for your assistance. You did not need to stay after the test while I examined the code, but you helped my conclusions with your observations.”
            “Of course, Spock,” said (Y/N), smiling. Their chest warmed at Spock’s thanks. “You’re my friend. I wanted to support you since people were doubting your work. Wrongfully, but still.”
            “Your support was appreciated,” said Spock, nodding.
            “It was no problem,” said (Y/N), smiling. “But Spock, come on, I’ve told you to call me ‘(Y/N).’ ”
            “It isn’t formal,” said Spock.
            “We’re friends,” said (Y/N). “That isn’t formal.” They grinned and started the walk out of the room.
            Spock paused a moment before following. There was nothing to argue there. Spock and (Y/N) were friends.
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            “This session has been called to resolve a troubling matter,” said the head of the disciplinary committee, still Barnett.
            This time, everyone had been called to the hearing, likely because this situation was much more egregious for the academy as a whole. Cheating was unacceptable. Cadets whispered to one another, but the murmurs quieted as the head of the committee spoke. (Y/N) sat beside Spock, reading for the hearing to begin.
            “James T. Kirk, step forward,” said Barnett.
            All heads went to the cadet in question, whose face fell. Kirk stood and walked down to face the committee like (Y/N) had years ago.
            “Cadet Kirk, evidence has been submitted to this council suggesting that you violated the ethical code of conduct pursuant to Regulation 17.43 of the Starfleet code,” continued Barnett. “Is there anything you care to say before you begin, sir?”
            “Yes, I believe I have the right to face my accuser directly,” said Kirk.
            The head of committee looked at (Y/N) and Spock and nodded to them. They rose, and (Y/N) felt the ripple of surprise from those that knew of (Y/N) and Spock.
            “Step forward,” said Barnett.
            Spock and (Y/N) headed down to the other podium at the center of the hearing room.
            “This is Commander Spock and Lieutenant Commander (L/N). They are two of our most distinguished graduates,” explained Barnett. “Commander Spock has programmed the Kobayashi Maru exam for the last four years. Lieutenant (L/N) currently works with psychics in the Academy.” He looked at Spock and (Y/N). “State your case.”
            “Cadet Kirk, you somehow managed to install and activate a subroutine in the programming code, thereby changing the conditions of the test,” said Spock.
            “You are undoubtedly the culprit since you requested the third test and had no surprise when the test changed. You knew it was coming from the beginning,” said (Y/N). “No nerves, no surprise.”
            “Your point being?” said Kirk.
            “In academic vernacular, you cheated,” said Barnett.
            Kirk didn’t back down from the sharp down. “Let me ask you something I think we all know the answer to: the test itself is a cheat, isn’t it? I mean, you programmed it to be unwinnable.”
            “Your argument precludes the possibility of a no-win scenario,” said Spock.
            “I don’t believe in no win scenarios,” said Kirk firmly.
            “Then not only did you violate the rules, but you failed to understand the principal lesson,” said Spock.
            What a repartee, thought (Y/N).
            “Please, enlighten me,” said Kirk.
            “You of all people should know, Cadet Kirk, a captain cannot cheat death,” said Spock. The reference to Kirk’s father was clear.
            Kirk swallowed, and (Y/N) felt the pressure of profound grief wave over them.
            “I of all people?” he said.
            “Your father, Lieutenant George Kirk, assumed command of his vessel before being killed in action, did he not?” said Spock.
            Spock, that was a low blow, thought (Y/N), giving him a look.
            Spock noticed it and avoided their gaze. He never liked when they were upset at him.
            “I don’t think you like the fact that I beat your test,” said Kirk, his sadness sharpening to anger.
            “Cadet Kirk,” said (Y/N). “You didn’t beat the test. You failed to learn its lesson. Three times now. It’s not about beating it or failing it.”
            “What is it about then?” said Kirk.
            “Fear,” said (Y/N) simply. “A captain must learn to face fear and handle themself accordingly. You have to learn to control yourself, your ship, and your crew even when afraid.”
            Silence fell over the room as Kirk processed those words.
            “Excuse me, sir,” said an officer, walking in from outside the chamber. He broke the quiet tension. He walked up with a report to Barnett.
            Worry clouded his aura, and (Y/N) frowned. Barnett’s emotions changed to concern and confusion, and (Y/N) tensed. Something was going on.
            “We have received a distress call from Vulcan,” said Barnett.
            (Y/N)’s eyes widened, and Spock straightened. His expression didn’t change, but they had known him long enough to see he was concerned. It was his home.
            “With our primary fleet engaged in the Laurentian system, I hereby report all cadets to report to Hangar One immediately,” said Barnett. He stood. “Dismissed.”
            Everyone followed suit and rushed towards Hangar One. Spock was the first one to begin moving, and (Y/N) hurried after him.
            “Are you alright?” they asked.
            “I must ensure my assigned ship is well-staffed for the trip to Vulcan,” said Spock. “Then I—we—can handle the distress call.”
            (Y/N) nodded. He was focusing on the issue at hand. That was Spock’s way of dealing with problems.
            “Whatever ship I’m on, I’ll do the same. We’ll be able to face this,” said (Y/N) assuredly.
            “You’ll be on the Enterprise as well,” said Spock. “You’re efficient and skilled. You’ll be needed.” And if (Y/N) was with him, if there was trouble, he could keep an eye on them. He didn’t want them to be put in harm’s way where he couldn’t help them.
            “And I’ll do my best,” said (Y/N), smiling at Spock. “I can help with staffing so it’s not all on your shoulders.”
            Spock nodded. He was glad (Y/N) always concentrated on the tasks at hand. They were an excellent officer. “You handle communications and command. I’ll handle medical staff and science officers.”
            “Spock,” said (Y/N), pausing. He stopped, and (Y/N) touched his arm gently, supportively. “Whatever’s happening, I’m with you, alright? I’m here to help.”
            Spock looked at their hand. There was a subtle warmth from their hand on his arm, and although he knew they would never use their abilities on him without permission, he felt calmer knowing they were there.
            He nodded. “Thank you, (Y/N).”
            (Y/N) smiled. “Of course, Spock.”
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Hi there, I saw your comment on that post about the AU where Spock programs the test as Tarsus IV rather than Kobayashi Maru saying you were writing that fic... did you ever post the link to that? I was really interested in reading it, but I'm terrible at navigating the tumblr interface, so I figured it may be more expedient to just ask ^^;
I did not! Life happened and such. But you are not the first person to ask me about this, so I should probably actually go do that… I’ll go pull up my drafts today and try to remember where I left off <3
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stra-tek · 1 year
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Into Darkness screengraphics deep dive!
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Holy sheeeeet the motherlode of Into Darkness screengraphics from Jorge Almeida. I've wanted to see some of these up close since 2013. I'm guessing there was a 10 year no-show clause somewhere because this is all out now!😁
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Prototype "Powerwall"
It looks as though the Kelvin Timeline already knows about the Bajoran Wormhole and has a trans warp (communications?) network spanning half the galaxy in 2259 - or is it the Hirogen communications network which they've discovered and are using? They've also already had dealings with the Krenim, Vidiian, B'Omar and Devore Impirium and several other aliens from Star Trek: Voyager. Theyre dealing with UFOs over the Golden Gate bridge, too. Lots of random text about US nuclear tests which would never ever have been legible on screen (and likely to be swapped for Trekverse stuff later) See elsewhere on my tumblr for a detailed breakdown of the final version.
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Starfleet HQ and Kelvin Memorial Archive directories
Starfleet officers and cadets are spoiled for places to eat! I love seeing details like these so much!!
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Admiral Pike's e-mails
Actually a modified recycling of Cadet Kirk's e-mails from the Kobayashi Maru deleted scene in Star Trek (2009)
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Section 31 Inventory Management
This prototype graphic describes 2003-2004 weapons tests, but the final movie version spells out Admiral Marcus' plan to deploy the long range torpedoes in detail (again, see elsewhere on this blog)
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Vengeance scan/72 torpedoes
Showing the Enterprise's 72 long range torpedoes in their engineering launch tubes. It gives the yield of the weapons as 320 isotons, which is significantly higher than the quantum torpedoes of the U.S.S. Defiant NX-74205 given in the DS9 Technical Manual, which is 52.3 isotons
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The torpedo disarm scene
Turns out this scene took place on Planetoid D36-25
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isagrimorie · 1 year
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I read Star Trek Picard: Stargrazer comics and I'm actually pleasantly surprised that it answered my question about the diplomatic duties in the new Enterprise G command team.
Raffi can handle it but as Captain, Seven would need it too.
It turns out that for Seven's Kobayashi Maru's officer training, her KM is not action-oriented but diplomatic incidents.
This falls in line with Picard saying in s2:
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Seven initially failed the diplomatic test and Seven still doesn't like failing. (Also it's weird to me she's got the gold color when I still feel like she should be blue, but okay).
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This prompts Seven and Picard to discuss about this new Kobayashi Maru and why Seven is taking this.
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This time it's Seven who walks away, anyway tldr, Picard, and Seven end up on the same mission. Seven comes in guns blazing things get out of hand and Picard is abducted by the local war leader.
The conflict ends when Seven talks to the war leader and empathizes with her about their shared experience and talks the war leader down.
As things wind down Picard tries to talk Seven into giving Starfleet another chance. Now that they're ready for her, Starfleet is the one chasing her.
But also I love Picard's reason for Seven joining Starfleet and makes sense for Seven's character at this point.
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Picard: Don't be mistaken, Seven. I am quite aware that you don't need Starfleet. It's Starfleet that needs you.
And honestly, this is true. Because at this point Starfleet is so broken, it's been broken since after the Dominion war and the Romulan Prime exploding.
This gives Seven pause but Picard doesn't push it.
Janeway however....
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Now that Starfleet is more amendable to accepting Seven of Nine, Janeway is not going to let this moment pass her by. She's been trying to get Seven into Starfleet for 20 years.
And as we see in season 3, Janeway and Picard successfully tag team Seven into accepting.
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But also, I'm fascinated that Seven did go through accelerated Officer training. And I'm also glad that she's got diplomatic training under Picard and Janeway. And Raffi is also there too, politicking and relationship work is a huge part of intelligence work.
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estrelio · 1 month
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watching jim pass the kobayashi maru in star trek 2009 and then the camera panning over to reveal that SPOCK had designed the test in this timeline was one of the most influential moments in my childhood. i'm not autistic you are
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inexplicablymine · 2 months
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beas! hello hello - if no one else asked what about this one i feel it is pertinent to my interests and i would luv to hear more about it plz
What if we shove StarTrek into Firstprince
SO A LIL MORE INFORMATION
Part 1 | Part 2 | and this is Part 3 ;)
SOOOOO because I woke up from a dream where they were taking the kobayashi Maru and Alex of course doesn’t believe in no-win scenarios. But just imagining them in this world. His mother as head Admiral of Starfleet and president of the system, and Henry’s grandmother reigning Queen and head of the Vulcan Council and how the two of them are thrown together over and over and over again and actually don’t like one another at all, including while having to take that dreaded test. But you know, things happen, Vulcan is threatened, and they all end up IN SPACE SAVING THE WORLD TOGETHER.
That’s all I can really add at the moment but truly this is so much fun and I already just am imagining the interplanetary headlines that still allow them to have the firstprince ship name ;)))
If you would like to ask about one of my badly explained WIP’s my inbox is open!!
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glowing-disciple · 9 months
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Everyone always talks about how Kirk screwed with the Kobayashi Maru test, but I don’t think y’all realize how much people screw with it on the regular.
Brief recap for the uninitiated: the Kobayashi Maru is a test designed to be unwinable. It’s supposed to gauge how well someone handles a no win situation. The premise of the exercise is simple: you are commanding a combat ready starship ferrying a large group of wounded civilians to a nearby colony where they can receive treatment. While in route, you receive a distress call from the Kobayashi Maru, a small starship that’s basically a space minivan. It’s been swept into the Klingon side of the neutral zone by an ion storm and is badly damaged. You can help them, but taking your ship into the neutral zone would constitute an act of war (if you’re caught).
The “fun” part is that the simulation is programmed to generate an infinite number of Klingon battle cruisers, so there’s no way for you to blast your way through, and the stricken ship is out of transporter range, so you can’t just magic your way out of this either.
People who have taken the test are also forbidden to discuss any of this with anyone who hasn’t taken it, so everyone goes into it blind.
But here’s the neat part: there is a novel where Kirk, Scotty, and Sulu talk about how they handled this test.
This is already a long post, so I’m just going to summarize how each of them tackled the problem…
Kirk: hacked the simulation so that the Klingons would recognize him as a famous hero and assist in the rescue.
Scotty: ended up surrounded by Klingon battle cruisers and decided to take a third option by using his engineering expertise to create an impossible situation. This crashed the simulation.
Sulu: said “not my problem” and completely ignored the Kobayashi Maru, to the shock and horror of his instructors and classmates.
I wonder what other things people have done during this test…
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