#Meneldur

[eglerieth]

#Polls #poll #eglerieth #tolkien #numenor #aldarion #erendis #Sea longing #tar-aldarion #Anardil #Ancalimë #Meneldur #silmarillion

[spruceneedles]

Írimon or Meneldur, Silmariën and Isilmë’s little brother

#myart #spruceart #drawing #tolkien fanart #tolkien #tolkien stuff #numenoreans #numenor #númenor #meneldur #tar-meneldur #írimon #irimon #elentirmo

[riding-with-the-wild-hunt]

“Tar-Elendil, the fourth king, was succeeded by his son Tar-Meneldur, though his daughter Silmariën was the elder." - J.R.R. Tolkien, The Return of the King, footnote to "Appendix A: Annals of the Kings and Rulers" "Meneldur was the son of Tar-Elendil, the fourth King of Númenor. He was the King's third child, for he had two sisters, named Silmariën and Isilmë. The elder of these was wedded to Elatan of Andúnië and their son was Valandil, Lord of Andúnië, from whom came long after the lines of the Kings of Gondor and Arnor in Middle-earth. Meneldur was a man of gentle mood, without pride, whose exercise was rather in thought than in deeds of the body. . .All that he could gather of the lore of the Eldar and Edain concerning Eä and the deeps that lay about the Kingdom of Arda he studied, and his chief delight was in the watching of the stars." - J.R.R. Tolkien, Unfinished Tales, "Aldarion and Erendis: The Mariner's Wife"

[ID: an edit composed of four posters in muted shades of brown, red, and greenish hues. Each poster is framed on two sides by two brown stripes, the thinner of which is patterned--together they create a frame around all four images.

1: Anugraha Natarajan, a tamil indian model with brown skin and dark hair. She is draped in a dark veil embroidered in gold and wears a jeweled headpiece. Her gaze is on the viewer though her head is turned slightly to the side. Green and brown text reads "silmariën," "princess," and "maiden garlanded with shining light" / 2: Several richly decorated arches in a classical indian style, held up by dark columns between which other arches can be seen. Text reads "the could've-been queen" / 3: A classical indian palace seen through a window, the towers vivid against the sky. Text reads "and the king who was" / 4: Anthony O. Gomes, an indian model with brown skin, dark hair, and a beard. He is seated on the ground, wearing a black shirt resembling a starry sky, white silk trousers, and silver jewelry. He looks earnest and serious and lifts a handful of pearls. Text in the same arrangement as Image 1, though on the opposite sides, reads "meneldur," "polymath," and "servant of the heavens" //End ID]

#silmariën #tar-meneldur #the silmarillion #unfinished tales #the mariner's wife #tolkienedit #tolkiensource #sourcetolkien #silmedit #oneringnet #mepoc #fantasyedit #númenor #edits with the wild hunt #brought to you by me #posters #described

[phynaofithilien]

Reading the tale of Aldarion and Erendis, and remembering Fëanor, I really wonder why Tolkien seemed to belief that the oldest son should always be the best suited to inherit the throne when he has himself written prime examples where the eldest was just better suited for something completely different. The history would look much better if neither Fëanor nor Tar-Meneldur had ever assumed the crown automatically goes to the oldest son. And why did the elves assume that anyway? Finwë was, after all, democratically elected and no-one was supposed to die; who got the idea that there should be an inheritance law giving the crown to the oldest son?

#the silmarillion #tolkien #silmarillion #feanor #finwe #tar-meneldur #tar-aldarion #numenor #valinor #inheritance law

[elennalore]

Chapters: 1/1 Fandom: The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien Rating: General Audiences Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply Characters: Original Human Character(s), Tar-Meneldur Additional Tags: Tolkien OC Week, Nonbinary Character, Gender Roles, Númenor, Stargazing, Hobbies, Book: Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth, Second Age (Tolkien) Summary:

It is Telda's task to bring food to Meneldur in his stargazing tower. Meneldur will become the king of Númenor one day, but to Telda, he is just Elentirmo, the stargazer. He doesn't realize Telda is a girl, and Telda prefers it that way.

Written for @tolkienocweek, day 1: diversity. One of the themes in my story is gender roles in Númenor, and my main character wants to challenge those strict social norms.

#tolkienocweek #numenor #gender roles #my oc #my writing #tar meneldur #numenoreans #silmarillion #silm fic

[brynnmclean]

okay, I know I’m obsessed with The Mariner’s Wife, but I can’t help thinking about Tar-Aldarion’s sea-longing and how it pained him to stay on Númenor for too long vs. ROP Isildur feeling such a literal call to stay on Númenor and not go to sea

#kate watches rings of power #i am going to be brave and drop this into the tag #rings of power #because i would love to talk about this with other people! #i know i know we had isildur volunteer to go to middle-earth now for the southland war effort in the last episode #but i'm so interested in whatever voice isildur is hearing calling him #whether it's the memory of his mother or like... idk the spirit of the land itself #or something else entirely #also if y'all haven't read the way tolkien described aldarion's sea longing it's COOL #and painful #i'm always struck by that part in the story #and how his father meneldur sees aldarion's pain but does not understand it #unfinished tales #isildur #tar aldarion #the mariner's wife

[tolkienosaurus]

#tolkien #lord of the rings #lotr #silmarillion #the silmarillion #second age #númenor #numenor #númenorë #Kings of numenor #tolkien poll

[ettelenethelien]

ok, but how much did the numenoreans know about the fate of men? because...

the thing is, when you share Tolkien's Faith, the way it's always presented as such a huge mystery is almost funny. because you can so, so easily guess -- well, not even guess, you just know what he meant; it has to be the same as ours, whereas in-world it's always "well, mandos knows, and maybe manwë". kudos for being aware of something most of the valar aren't, then.

but how much do the numenoreans know or guess? they say "we must die and go we know not whither" and I used to pity them a bit for that uncertainty -- which, of course, would not excuse anything, but might be disquieting, especially when you're placed next to the immortal elves. we seem to be pointed towards the edain of the first age having no beliefs they were certain about in regards to this, going only on hope -- one of the closest things we get is when hurin has his moment of defiance to morgoth: "well, you cannot keep on tormenting us after we die! then we're out of your reach", but interestingly, as far as what concerns us here, he replies to an accusation that he's just repeating what the elves taught him (which is not a valid counterargument, but never mind), saying that no, it just came to him in that very moment. in general, we get the idea that they know very little, though some of them vaguely hope for something good (and I do wonder whether news of Beren shook things up at all, even if he did not, after all, meet the full fate of men that first time, just waited in the hallway).

so far, so good, if a bit bleak, but then we get to The Mariner's Wife, and Meneldur's dramatic monologue:

'May Eru call me before such a time comes!' he cried aloud.

and

'I am in too great doubt to rule. To prepare or to let be? To prepare for war, which is yet only guessed: train craftsmen and tillers in the midst of peace for bloodspilling and battle: put iron in the hands of greedy captains who will love only conquest, and count the slain as their glory? Will they say to Eru: At least your enemies were amongst them? Or to fold hands, while friends die unjustly: let men live in blind peace, until the ravisher is at the gate? What then will they do: match naked hands against iron and die in vain, or flee leaving the cries of women behind them? Will they say to Eru: At least I spilled no blood?

and you could read it differently; to be honest the polish translation gives less room for doubt, which may colour my interpretation, but it does seem that he knows, or guesses with seeming certitude, and that is such a different attitude from everything else I've mentioned.

what have I to say to this? nothing except that beliefs may have grown or changed. I am very far from an expert on this, but, within ancient Israel which might be the closest analogue, and was even mentioned in connection to Númenor by Tolkien, beliefs regarding the afterlife seem to have indeed evolved with time; compare, say, the Psalms with (2nd) Maccabees (*the latter is in the Catholic Bible, but not in the Protestant ones, if you're puzzled) or Wisdom?

yes, it's not much of a conclusion, l admit, but there isn't really anything else I might say, unless it were to add that third age gondor seems to be somewhere in between, with a vague and hopeful sense of something, aragorn's "and beyond [the circles of the world] there is more than memory" and faramir's "till that time, or till some other time, beyond the reach of the seeing stones of númenor" (italics mine) being the relevant quotes. (the rather dramatic, if you think about it, context for the latter, being that faramir is probably well aware neither he nor frodo are that likely to see the next month. also worth noting that the italicised phrase is in text paired with the image of an alternatively possible - though "beyond hope" - meeting where they could "laugh at old grief, in the sun")

(the rohirrim seem to have their own beliefs, but they also seem to come with their own traditions, which, while not on the most part incompatible, may at times have been different. on the other hand, what we have is not much less vague either, just cloaked in different terms, so there isn't much evidence either way.)

#my post #Númenor #edain #Tolkien meta #tolkien #Silmarillion #lotr #peoples of arda #mini essay

[tar-thelien]

Gil-Galad = Star of Radiance: Sindarin

Ereinion = Son of kings: Sindarin

Artanaro = Noble fire: Quenya

Rodnor = Noble fire: Sindarin; Artanaro in Sindarin

Finellach = Flamiling hair and eye (Maedhros you got a kid??): Sindarin; I never really thought of Finellach as a reliable (nothing about Gil is reliable) name as it´s only used in a letter to Tar-Meneldur and the meaning is unclear as it was first written Finlachen then Finhenlach and at last as Finellach - the meaning of the name would be something like flaming hair and eye (hair-eye-flame) but it´s harder to translate because of the loose Sindarin and change it has gone through.

#reblog for it to reach as many as possible #i seriously want to know #pls tell me if i got anything wrong espessely with finellach as I'm very rusty about sindarin names #tolkien #silmarillion #jrr tolkien #gil galad #ereinion gil galad #ereinion #artanaro #rodnor #finellach #if these notes looks like the ones i have in my about him its because i copied them from there #i will commit if someone says finellach #i dont know what ill commit but i will commit something #i can excuse rodnor but not finellach

[biginvisiblespider]

erendis sketch (kind of, it has some colour)

The scene where erendis gives aldarion the bough of oiolairë is one of my favourite sections of the tale.

A lot of quotes and thoughts under the cut, spoilers for some of Aldarion and Erendis, you have been warned, this is long!!

The oiolairë is a really interesting númenórean custom, in 'Aldarion and Erendis' it says,

'Here must be told of the custom that when a ship departed from Númenor over the great sea to Middle-earth a woman, most often of the captain's kin, should set upon the vessel's prow the Green Bough of Return; and that was cut from the tree oiolairë, that signifies 'Ever-summer', which the Eldar gave to the Númenóreans, saying that they set it upon their own ships in token of friendship with Ossë and Uinen. The leaves of evergreen, glossy and fragrant; and it throve upon sea-air'.

At this point in the story Aldarion and his father Meneldur have fought over to Aldarion's voyaging when, as the heir, his father thinks he should be taking more interest in his own people.

'Meneldur forbade the Queen and the sisters of Aldarion to bear tbe bough of oiolairë to Rómenna where lay the Palarran, saying that he refused his blessing to his son'

In response Aldarion says,'If I must go without blessing or bough, then so I will go'.

The blessing and the bough are linked, the favour of the king and the friendship of Ossë and Uinen who calms the sea, as well as a token of safe return. In Numenor Uinen was particularly honoured for saving the ships so you can see why the Queen doesn't want Aldarion to leave without the branch.

After this, Erendis says that she will bring the branch and delivers it as the ship is preparing to leave, 'little though she loved the noise and bustle of the great harbour and the crying of the gulls'.

This is the point when Aldarion falls in love with Erendis so it is clearly an important moment but I think it goes a little deeper than that.

Throughout the tale there's a clear split in what the pair value, the sea and the land, the ships and the woods, and this is one of the few moments where these opposite priorities co-exist. Erendis delivers a branch which thrives on sea-air, a tree as a symbol of friendship with the sea but also of a safe return! This little moment, to me, shows how their relationship could have developed if they were both willing to compromise.

I also find it interesting how the bough is a token of friendship with Uinen, when Erendis later declares Uinen as her enemy.

'I am no daughter of Uinen: rather is she my foe.'

There is also a neat parallel with the elven birds and the tree they receive as gifts from the eldar at their wedding. All of these originate with the elves, can be used to symbolise their love and each one changes in meaning for them as their relationship breaks down.

Focusing on the oiolairë, after Aldarion decides to leave again (and I could talk for ages on their conversation before he leaves!!) Erendis sets the branch of oiolairë but hides her tears until the ship is gone.

On this trip Aldarion is gone for longer than expected as the haven at Vinyalonde is destroyed and he has to rebuild and on the journey home he is swept off-course, to the north. When Aldarion finally sees Numenor again he notices that the oiolairë has withered in the cold.

Ominous! For such a symbolic branch to die can't help the overall feeling in Numenor at this point that Aldarion is doing something wrong!

'the Venturers were fallen out of esteem; for men thought that he had treated Erendis ill.'

After their wedding, eight years after his last voyage and with their daughter not even four years old, Aldarion sets off again but promises to return in two years. This time, Erendis does not set the branch on his ship or send one, the wife of Aldarion's captain does it instead.

This seems to be the point where Erendis gives up on him, dismissing the elven birds (I could talk about that as well but i will resist) and she leaves to live in her home in the centre of Numenor, far from the sea. When Aldarion does not return after the promised two years she stays there and when he does eventually get back he finds his house empty.

When Aldarion becomes king he journeys to Middle-earth again but, 'It is recorded that upon the prow of Hirilonde he set no bough of oiolairë, but the image of an eagle with golden beak and jewelled eyes, which was the gift of Cirdan.'

Every important voyage Aldarion takes mentions the branch of oiolairë, which is enough to show its significance, but its connection with Numenor as well as the elves and the maiar and how it symbolises Aldarion and Erendis' relationship makes it a really interesting piece of the story.

#aldarion and erendis #erendis #unfinished tales #aldarion #this got long #I could go on way longer about this story though #it's so good people need to know

[warrioreowynofrohan]

Favourite Female Tolkien Character Poll - Round 1, Match 22

Silmarien

The eldest sister of Tar-Meneldur, fourth king of Númenor. If the law of the succession passing to the eldest child regardless of gender had begun with her rather than with Meneldur’s granddaughter Ancalimë, she would have been Númenor’s first Ruling Queen. The Lords of Andunië were descended from her, and through them the line of Elendil and the kings of Gondor and Arnor.

Tar-Míriel

The fourth and last ruling Queen of Númenor. One of the Faithful, like her father Tar-Palantír, she was usurped and taken in forced marriage by her cousin Ar-Pharazôn. She died in the Downfall of Númenor.

#favourite female tolkien character poll #numenor #numenoreans #silmarien #tar miriel #the silmarillion #unfinished tales #tolkien

[child-of-hurin]

Impossible to read about Erendis and not think of Morwen -- of course, they share an ancestor in Bregolas; they have a similar stern temperament; and the text itself tells us that:

the people of Andúnië, looking upon the blissful company, said that none were more fair than Erendis; and they said that her eyes were as bright as were the eyes of Morwen Eledhwen of old.

But also, one reminds me of another in the way that after all these similarities are established, we find them to be quite different. The most essential difference, of course, is in their circumstances: one is born and lives in the desolation of war, while the other lives in the peace and bliss of Númenor. I'm stricken by this insight of Meneldur's:

If her choice should lead to death in her own time, she would die bravely. But what will she do with life, and other wills? The Valar themselves, even as I, must wait to discover.’

Like Morwen, Erendis ends up living in isolation and silence, sharing her house only with servants and a daughter; unlike Morwen, she does so by choice. And while Morwen is famously described in death as not being conquered, Erendis "perished in the water" -- a capitulation to that which she called enemy.

#erendis #the mariner's wife #unfinished tales #edain #númenor #morwen

[ao3feed-tolkien]

The Star-Watcher and the Silver-Smith

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/vgFqAL7

by MirienSilowende

Celebrimbor finds love for a season when Veantur visits Lindon and Gil-Galad aboard the Entulesse. He brings with him a Prince of Numenor, Irimon, who has not yet taken the throne.

This was written for My Slashy Valentine 2022.

Words: 5706, Chapters: 6/6, Language: English

Fandoms: The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings - J. R. R. Tolkien, Lord of the Rings - Fandom, The Lord of the Rings - All Media Types, TOLKIEN J. R. R. - Works & Related Fandoms

Rating: General Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: Gen, M/M

Characters: Ereinion Gil-galad, Celebrimbor | Telperinquar, Vëantur (Tolkien), Irimon, Tar-Meneldur

Relationships: Cdelebrimbor/Irimon

Additional Tags: Fluff, My Slashy Valentine 2022, My Slashy Valentine, Celebrimbor has a romance, Romance, Lindon, Second Age, Sweet

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/vgFqAL7

#IFTTT #ao3feed #fanfic #Tolkien #JRR Tolkien #Tolkien works #ao3 #fan fiction

[blood-chilling]

@thylegend @clxssichxman @leyllo @pastel-goth-69 @nicole-allen953 @purvertedprincess @hold-please-thanks @gayerthanthenorm @adviceshark @dont-panickk @danielle-delgrange @two-coffins @fuerimmerfernweh @disappointeddaisy @coffee-witch666 @luthien-meneldur @perks-of-being-a-daisy-blog @itsnevereasydude @happyalienbot333 @coolpenis 

OK GOOD

[namarie-rpg]

Cronología de la Segunda Edad del Sol

Desde el año 1 S.E. hasta el presente en la ambientación:

1 Fundación de los Puertos Grises. Los enanos descubren el mithril durante los primeros años de la Segunda Edad.

32 Los dúnedain llegan a Númenor; nombramiento del primer rey Elros o Tar-Minyatur.

ca. 40 Los enanos llegan a Khazad-Dûm (Moria) tras la destrucción de Belegost y Nogrod, estableciendo una alianza con los Hombres del Norte.

442 Muerte de Elros Tar-Minyatur a los 500 años. Tar-Amandil se erige en rey.

590 Tar-Elendil se erige en rey. Su hija, Silmariën, inicia el linaje de los Príncipes de Anúnië (Númenor). Los primeros barcos de Númenor llegan a la Tierra Media.

740 Tar-Meneldur se erige en rey.

750 Los noldor fundan Eregion. Al instalarse los Mírdain, herreros elfos, en Eregion las relaciones con los enanos de Khazad-Dûm se fortalecen. Se crean vías de comercio y antes del año 1000 Celebrimbor el elfo y Navi el enano construyen las Puertas de Durin al oeste.

806 Erendis conoce a Aldarion.

871 Matrimonio de Aldarion y Erendis. Nacimiento de Ancalime en 873.

883 Tar-Aldarion se erige en rey.

1000 Sauron se asienta en Mordor e inicia la construcción de Barad-Dûr.

1075 Tar-Ancalime se erige en reina.

1200 (a partir de) Sauron empieza a enlazar las forjas de los elfos de Eregion. Los númenóreanos instalan puertos permanentes en la Tierra Media.

1280 Tar-Anárion se erige en rey.

1349 Tar-Súrion se erige en rey.

1556 Tar-Telperion se erige en reina.

ca. 1600 Celebrimbor y los Gwaith-i-Mírdain (herreros noldor) han fabricado Anillos de Poder (tres para los elfos, siete para los enanos, nueve para los hombres). Sauron forja el Anillo Único (o soberano) y concluye la construcción de Barad-Dûr. Celebrimbor descubre sus intenciones.

1693 Sauron lleva la guerra a los elfos, que esconden los tres anillos que se les otorgan.

1697 Sauron conquista Eregion y mata a Celebrimbor. Elrond funda Rivendel (Imladris). Se cierran las Puertas de Durin en Moria tras la caída de Acebeda.

1699 Sauron conquista Eriador.

1700 El príncipe heredero de Númenor, Tar-Minastir, conduce una gran flota hacia Lindon y derrota a Sauron.

1731 Tar-Minastir se erige en rey.

1869 Tar-Ciryatan se erige en rey.

2029 Tar-Atanamir, llamado el Grande y el Colérico, se erige en rey, se niega a deponer el cetro y reina hasta la muerte, como todos sus sucesores.

ca. 2200 Los Nazgûl aparecen por primera vez.

2221 Tar-Analimon se erige en rey. Bajo su reinado los númenóreanos se dividen en un partido monárquico y en los Fieles.

2280 Umbar es transformada en la fortaleza de los Númenor en la Tierra Media.

2350 Se levanta Pelargir y se convierte en el puerto principal de los Fieles en la Tierra Media.

2386 Tar-Telemmaite se erige en rey.

2526 Tar-Vanimelde se erige en reina.

2637 Herucalmo se apropia ilegalmente del poder.

2657 Tar-Alcarin se erige en rey.

2737 Tar-Calmacil se erige en rey.

2825 Tar-Ardamin se erige en rey.

2899 Ar-Ardûnakhôr se erige en rey.

2962 Ar-Zimrathôn se erige en rey.

3033 Ar-Sakalthôr se erige en rey.

3102 Ar-Gimilzôr se erige en rey.

3177 Tar-Palantir se erige en rey.

3243 Ar-Pharazôn, el Dorado, se erige en rey.

3261 Ar-Pharazôn desembarca en Umbar.

3262 Ar-Pharazôn apresa a Sauron y lo lleva como prisionero a Númenor. En los siguientes 50 años, Sauron se vuelve cada vez más poderoso en Númenor hasta llegar a ser adorado como un dios.

PRESENTE

Cronología adaptada de Diccionario Tolkien (2003) de Schneidewind.

#ambi #rpg hispano #promocion #namarie rpg

[elennalore]

I was tagged by wonderful @aipilosse to self-rec 5 fics. Thanks for the tag!

I decided to self-rec some of my lesser known fics that could do with extra love.

The Summons - G, Melkor/Mairon

Written as a treat for TRSB 2021. Summary: When Melkor is granted a pardon and released from the Halls of Mandos, he summons Mairon to rejoin him in Valinor. Eönwë brings the message to Mairon in Angband. A big decision awaits Mairon: should he leave his familiar world behind, and go to Valinor, obeying his Master's summons?

For All Elvenkind - T, Celebrimbor/Mairon

A sci-fi futurefic about what these ultimate nerds were up to in the Seventh Age. Summary: An interstellar spaceship is ready to go. Its all-Elven crew and passengers will become the first explorers and settlers of an exoplanet orbiting the star Vega, or Luinil as the Elves call it. But only Mairon knows that the captain of the starship, Celebrimbor, has a hidden agenda.

Turning Point - T, Gen, Arafinwë & Nolofinwë, Arafinwë & Lalwen

Finwëan siblings has become one of my favourite character groups to write, and this fic started it all. Summary: The Valar have spoken. Arafinwë knows he has to make a big decision, but he's too tired to think clearly. His brother and sister are there for him, even at the moment of parting.

Stargazer - G, Gen, OC & Tar-Meneldur

I returned to write about Númenor and introduced my new Númenorean OC, Telda, in this fic. Summary: It is Telda's task to bring food to Meneldur in his stargazing tower. Meneldur will become the king of Númenor one day, but to Telda, he is just Elentirmo, the stargazer. He doesn't realize Telda is a girl, and Telda prefers it that way.

Relics of a Bygone Era - T, Gen + some Arafinwë/Eönwë

Written for TRSB 2022. Slightly AU, in a fix-it way. Summary: When the host of Valinor landed in Beleriand, Manwë did not come with them – instead, he sent his herald. This is Eönwë’s story in the War of Wrath. It’s about losing hope and finding it again, about mercy, and a close friendship.

I think many of you have already been tagged... I tag @chrissystriped, @polutrope, @auntieaugury, @i-did-not-mean-to and @ettelene, but feel free to ignore this!

#tag game #my fics #My writing #silm fic #fandom things