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#THEY'RE BOTH SELFISH. BOTH OF THEM!!!
0rb0t · 5 months
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"When Sylvie is cold and unapproachable, it's because she's an AWFUL MEAN BITCH. But when Loki is cold and unapproachable, it's because he's a sad puppy ;_;"
Look, I tend to prefer male characters in shows and games and such too, but like, do yall hear yourselves,,
They're BOTH Loki, they both act like this, they just come from different stories, but they're all LOKI.
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bumblingbabooshka · 2 months
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[Tuvok & Janeway: Control, Distance, Duty & Connection.] Sources: St Voyager Transcripts / Mitski 'First Love Late Spring' / Disco Elysium
#web weaving#star trek web weaving#st voyager#Kathryn Janeway#Tuvok#be the change you want to see in the world - make a long post about Tuvok & Janeway's similarities <- angel on my shoulder#I feel like a lot of people see them as 'opposites attract' sort of friends where Janeway is unhinged & Tuvok reigns her in#but in reality I think that while there is that element in there (exacerbated HEAVILY by their delta quad circumstances)#what I see most in their relationship is how they both value loyalty and duty above all and are extremely rigid with themselves#and the people around them. How they both have to maintain distance from others bc of their positions as captain & vulcan#I hate when people dismiss Tuvok as not being remotely interested in Maryana or Noss - it erases an interesting struggle that he and Janewa#both share - their desire to stay loyal to their spouses vs the 70 years of loneliness that that loyalty demands of them#But they BOTH triumph and they BOTH remain loyal (Tuvok until he returns to T'Pel and Janeway until Mark informs her that it's over)#and for both of them it's a little bit insane for them to do that.#Isn't it more interesting that Janeway and Tuvok both have feelings for people other than their spouses but don't give in#to that temptation?#They're both people who live very fastidiously by codes. Either written codes or moral codes - they very rarely if ever do things because#it's what THEY want to do. I'd say they're the least emotion-driven members of the crew and yes I'm including Seven because Seven#has a very...how to describe? It's a blunt and insular selfishness. She does what SHE wants to do and doesn't really care about others.#To me that's emotion-driven. Or...personal desire-driven? Not a bad thing at all but very different from Janeway & Tuvok who#are always more 'this is logical' or 'this is for the crew' rarely do they think 'this is what I want' bc they can't afford to#for different reasons (captain & vulcan)#they both also are in the most 'caretaking' positions on the ship from my POV. Security and Captain - both are directly in charge of#ship and crew safety.#Janeway & Tuvok#star trek voyager#st voy#when I say caretaking I'm NOT saying they're everyone's mom and dad or whatever - I'm saying they're in positions where they always#have to think about the greater good and the crew as a whole and how much danger is acceptable etc etc.#Janeway is always killing herself for the crew but Tuvok is right there beside her
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i think tim is possessive in the way that he wants to monopolize bernard's attention but bernard is possessive in the way that he wants to monopolize all of tim's emotions. like if tim could he'd replace all the breath in bear's lungs with his own so with every exhale, bernard would only think tim, tim, tim. but bear wants to be the sole recipient of tim's emotions. he wants to keep every smile, every tear, every frown to himself. he wants all of that to only be his. but tim belongs to so many people unlike bear who only belongs to tim. so he settles with the way tim laughs so hard that he snorts, at his corny jokes, at home. he settles with the frown that appears on his face as he works out the kinks in a new WE proposal. bernard lets himself be content with the way tim looks when he's hovering over him -- flushed and panting, tears building up in the corners of tim's eyes. at least this, he thinks reaching out to caress his boyfriend's face, at least this is mine. only mine.
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earlgodwin · 4 months
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the irony of cesare slutshaming juan for sleeping in brothels had me with tears in my eyes considering his very first scene in the show is him rawdogging a prostitute like his life depended on it...like babygirl we see you!!!
#like they're such whores i'm screaming!! but also so on brand when you think of it. since the real ones both were fucking sancia byeee#i believe the scene where cesare fucks that girl is just a glimpse of the show adapting the Real cesare's General Manwhorishness™ though!#if you're the borgia family enthusiast you already know that cesare has sired 7 illegitimate kids because of his romantic exploits lmao#cesare borgia i love your hypocritical ass fr like yessss#also love their rivalry so much because there's cesare who always wanna one-up juan in every aspect and be seen as the serious and driven#which is true about the hypercompetent and ambitious part!! but he fulfills his duty in the family in ways that are not conventional#meanwhile with juan...he fully embraces his hedonism and isn't ashamed of it. while he's aware that cesare outdo him in everything...#the only thing he has over cesare is his position as a gonfaloniere!! so he winds cesare up with flexing it!!!#the difference is cesare is as much as he hollers about doing everything for the family...he pretty much does it mostly for selfish reasons#his desperation for juan's position and rodrigo's attention made him sabotage the family more than persevering it etc#while juan is genuine but is reckless and incompetent but he Really tries yk? he really does! but he spiraled bc he feels weak and insecure#oh well both brothers are idiots in their own ways#i miss them fr#cesare borgia#juan borgia#the borgias#juan and cesare#text post
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i-like-anything-water · 9 months
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another thing I like about Chlonette is the fact one of them gives too much, and one of them takes too much.
Marinette gives too much of herself to other people, be it as her or Ladybug. She gives and gives and gives. It's concerning sometimes but it's kind of second nature to her.
Give. Be kind. Help.
Meanwhile, Chloe takes and takes. Takes a lot of power, takes a lot of time from her friends, takes a lot of things she can't promise. It's how she grew up, it's how she's taught to survive.
Take. Be one step ahead. Win.
But then it's them facing each other. Marinette tries giving and Chloe tries taking. But what could Marinette give to her rival? Pastries? She has money for that. Gifts? She could just order her butler. Friendship? She's...not sure but she tries.
Chloe tries to take it. She can't.
She tries again but it keeps slipping off her fingertips. She's getting frustrated, what was she doing wrong?! She was doing everything the people around her taught and did and yet she couldn't take what Marinette was giving. She couldn't keep it.
Marinette is getting agitated. Chloe isn't taking what she's giving and it feels wrong and strange. So she tries again and again, and again.
There's a boundary and suddenly they're more distant than close.
Chloe starts giving, but only to her. Only to Marinette. She starts giving what she has which she's aware isn't much. She looks down at her hands and she wished she wore her heart more on her sleeve.
And Marinette? She takes what she's given. She takes and takes. Even if it's small, even if it hurts a bit.
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uncanny-tranny · 10 months
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It's always weird when people are like, "Oh, you being [x minority] made me stop hating/reconsider my bigotry toward [minority]!"
Not only is it weird from the standpoint of "wow, you hated me?" but it's weird to know that you displayed some type of behaviour that proved your humanity to them, and that if you stop displaying that behaviour for any reason, it's possible they'll just slide back into their hatred because they haven't fundamentally challenged why they hated you and your people.
It's fine to grow out of your bigotry, yes, but I'm completely understanding of people being weary of those who are so brazen about how much they hated people like you.
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antianakin · 10 months
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Anakin and Bo-Katan are so similar that there's no WAY they like each other because their similarities are all in their worst qualities. They're both ridiculously arrogant and competitive and tend to use violence as a first resort. None of that pairs well together with someone else who also has those traits. Anakin and Bo-Katan hate each other SO MUCH and would desperately love to kill the other if given the opportunity (if Anakin is Darth Vader in the scenario, he would just kill her anyway and does not need to wait for an opportunity).
You'd think they'd be able to connect over being violent warmongering traitorous assholes, but they're both so busy trying to pretend they're NOT violent warmongering traitorous assholes while simultaneously blaming the other person for being a violent warmongering traitorous asshole that they just never get anywhere.
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susandsnell · 6 months
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my hot take on Lizzie: the Musical is that the love story becomes infinitely more compelling the more actors/the production lean into Alice's flaws and selfishness rather than presenting her as some fragile little flower who's the voice of reason (tag novel below)
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fate-defiant · 11 months
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I can't believe they put my boy Mytho "does fucked up shit to himself because his entire identity and self image relies on being loved(in the right way by the right people)" and my girl Rue "does fucked up shit to everyone else because her entire identity and self image relies on being loved(in the right way by the right people)" togehter in the same show and never did anything to meaningfully juxtapose and explore All That
#princess tutu#rue#mytho#this is a gross oversimplification but you get it you understand#unstoppable selfishness vs immovable selflessness vs unstopable selflessness vs immovable selfishness#these two coulda been so insane their dynamic could've blown minds#i can;t tell you exactly how but it would've#what if the show ended not on them leavig entirely intentionally but lik#e#in the commotion of the story ending they just sorta fall bakc into the story and vanish into the real world#and their ending is them realizing they've both ended up in the fairytale.its not delibarate the way it was in the show#and like. rue has nowhere to go and mytho is still kinda lost in the sauce but they're both unsure how to feel and what to do#so they just kinda. pick a direction and hope for the best#this at least is how i'd tweak it to give us space to imagine they'll have the time to work through everything the show ran outta time for#otherwise id fucking. id tweak the actual show dangnabbit#but yeag.#its just like. there;s this preconcieved notion of the person you are meant to be and sometimes that constructed self has all these surviva#all these survival mechanisms that'll cloud your judgement and someitmes actively harm you the living being the real tangible organism#because you are sad ape and big leaf you need love and sunlight#but the self is an aesthetic it can survive on bad decisions#and a cookie cutter self no matter how painful is better than the uncertainty of being potentially literally anything because in the end#you are sad ape and a big leaf and you can just live however as long as theres love and light and fun and sustenance#and you die either way but the self is a character with a neat narrative attached and the ape is real and messy and uncertain#so the self fights for survival and takes over the sad ape#you Get It. You Understand.#fate.txt
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VISCERAL vs INTERESTING. compelling vs complex.
did you know. that your fav character. can make your brain go !!!! without being interesting?
Or complex? Most of the most iconic characters ARN'T either of those things?? And that's what makes them fun???
im dying. the "boring" goody goody characters are often the complex ones. the "deep" morally ambiguous or evil characters are almost always shallower than a puddle on a well maintain street
selfishness and self destructive acts are SIMPLE. They are EASY to feel about. Characters who care a lot about mainly one thing focused around themselves are a DIRECT LINE TO FEELINGS. They want or feel a thing strongly, act on it, very little to no internal struggle about that (until maybe suddenly there is???) and THIS makes them Visceral. This makes them Compelling
being selfless and taking others in consideration? Is hard
it's complicated- there's a lot of moving parts and no real end goal to aim for. Being a good person? Complicated
Often interesting but, it needs thought. It's not easy. It's more of an ask to care about goodness without knowing a lot about the person trying to do it, because either in-universe or in-meta, they're gonna fail at it at some point, and-
a character caring about others means that even when you're watching them, it's not fully THEIR story you're being asked to focus on
so it's harder to focus on them. It's harder to know who they are
it's harder to get someone to feel compelled by them
DON'T JUST TRY TO WRITE COMPLEX CHARACTERS! And give that ones that ARE complicated something SHALLOW about them!!
and pleasssse stop and ask yourself- do I like this character bc there is so many different contradicting things going on here? So much much you have to squint to see? Or is it because everything about them is sharp and clear, and cuts through my heart like a knife? Do I like that they are single sided as a piece of paper and with plenty of blank space left to fill in?
there's a difference. the word "complex" is NOT a synonym for "well written" or "better"
the characters who feel boring are often the ones with most going on inside. That's. What makes connecting to them. Harder
tldr: depth can put distance between an audience and a character. use it CAREFULLY
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avisisisis · 6 months
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To add a little more to that post about how peaches represent SWK and Mac's relationship:
In the mountain, Macaque is the one to crush the peach in his hand. He offered it to Sun Wukong, and when he didn't accept it and instead yelled at him, he destroyed it and threw it on the ground
In the end, it was Macaque who left first, not the other way around. Now, their broken relationship isn't completely his fault, but he did play a part on it
SWK screamed at him when he tried to mend their friendship, so instead of trying again, he left. That's what broke their relationship for good. Not Sun Wukong yelling, not Liu'er Mihou not looking for him, but Macaque leaving and (as far as we know) not coming back. La gota que colmó el vaso, we could say. Stuff had already been going on between those two. SWK never seemed to genuinely listen to Macaque and his promises of staying forever were empty (he never would've been able to stay in one place for so long) and Macaque never even bothered to communicate his negative feelings over this, so when he warned him he was ignored
Sun Wukong left again and again and again, looking for more power to "be strong enough to protect them", and eventually he lost sight of why he was doing it. But no matter how many times he left, he came back. Macaque didn't
#they both did what they wanted from the other#swk wanted mac to be able to leave when he wanted on the condition that he'd always come back#mac wanted swk to stay w him and be loyal to him the same way he was to swk forever#swk promised they'd stay there forever but even if he had tried he would've eventually broken that promise#the one time macaque left swk on his own he never returned#they both hurt each other so much#it wasn't a one-sided thing like so many ppl believe#“oh but swk left and killed macaque! he's a selfish shit!” “but macaque abandoned swk n hes technically the one at fault for everything!”#shut up#i'm not gonna say neither of them were at fault. cuz they both were#but it wasn't one-sided#now the difference between them is how they act about it. swk is trying to be a better person and to not repeat his past mistakes#macaque gets angry and torments mk (who is a child especially compared to him) for being close to swk#and tries to convince him that swk is a terrible mentor when in reality he's never hurt mk (yet. and even then it wasn't intentional)#most of mk's problems w swk come not only from the fact that swk sucks at communication but also from teh fact that everyone's+#talking shit abt him. they're saying swk sucks n make mk doubt him n himself when swk rlly is just trying his best#anyways i'll get more into that later#lmk#lego monkie kid#sun wukong#the six eared macaque#liu'er mihou#swk#the monkey king#shadowpeach#lmk season 4#peaches#avis talks#avis' post
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secondsundering · 1 month
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thinking about how caltash were in a 5+ year psychosexual cold war with no end in sight and then jinx showed up and immediately plunged everything into chaos just by virtue of being there
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kerorowhump · 5 months
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god the writing in KG is just impeccable and it does NOT get the credit it deserves because i can put any two characters from the main 5 together in a pair and they'll have some interesting contrasts and points in common that they don't have with the others
#txt#dororo and kururu#dororo and giroro#dororo and tamama#were the three i was rotating in my brain#dororo n kururu: the two most left behind. arguably the smartest so they get along. one's order/calm the other chaos. both very observant.#also selfless vs selfish#dororo n giroro: ive already said but. peace vs invasion. earth vs keron. anger vs sadness. expresses emotions vs represses them. both loyal#and faithful. both dedicated to their cause. also childhood friends#additionally. the way they feel about keroro is a foil. dororo looks up to him but a tiny part of him resents him. giroro is always -#shit talking him but actually deeply respects him#dororo and tamama: similarly. they are very much foils esp about keroro. ive mentioned this previously. present tamama is like past dororo#with being rich and looking up to keroro. they're both very emotional and they both crave keroro's undivided attention#but tamama stands up for himself and is very loud and secure whereas dororo is insecure and doubts himself#ok I'll try to do more pairings (/p) mm#keroro and kururu well theyre constantly paired bc of how much they have in common. scheming and selfish. secret keron stuff.#plus keroro literally runs to him to ask for help when natsumi beats him or like IN GENERAL.#also again. keroro is supposed to come up with plans but struggles. kururu is supposed to be chaos oriented but he's always fixing messes#tamama and kururu is another fun one because one's perception is ''the sweet one'' and the other is ''the sinister one''#tamama may look dumb at times but hes actually bright. kururu is deeply intelligent but often gets lost in silliness#they both have a dark side#this is fun but theres many combinations for 5 members so im not gonna be here all day writing abt what they all have in common and contrast#but it's so fun to think abt bc the show is actually well written they all have lil tidbits that make their relationships (/p) unique#i didnt even get into keroro much bc god knows i could not stop talking there#this subject is worth making a whole post abt ... maybe one day#musing
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constantvariations · 1 year
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As stupid as the "Kyrie would kill me right now" line is, I can't help but run with the idea that maybe Kyrie is a secretly jealous person
She lost her parents to demons and her brother to Sanctus. She runs an orphanage. In Before the Nightmare, we're told that she often feeds other people's kids and refuses to accept donations that could help other people instead.
She gives and gives and gives. So, it's only fair for her to be a little possessive of the only thing she allows herself to keep: her relationship with Nero
Obviously she trusts him to be faithful and good, yet she can't help but cling a little bit tighter to his arm when he's around others, especially women she thinks are far more beautiful than her. Can't help but double check that his eye is on her and nobody else. Can't help but try to prove she's worthier than them by continually doing good deeds and making him happy however she can
She hates this part of herself and knows it's irrational, knows it's sinful, so she hides it. And she does it so well that people would laugh at the idea of Kyrie being jealous
Nero knows, though. It may have taken him a while to figure it out, but he notices her increased touches when they're in public, her subtle emphasis on "we" and "us" and "my boyfriend", her chores being done with a certain agitation or his favorite things popping up after these outings
Even if it can be irritating at times, he accepts all of her, just like she accepted all of him
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widevibratobitch · 7 months
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me when im drawing parallels between my favourite characters from completely different media that have nothing whatsoever in common........ or do they
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addawithbalmiki · 2 years
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i love how sakura’s love for sasuke is dirty. you can say she’s selfless in loving sasuke and in a way, it’s the truth: sakura wants the best for sasuke. she wants him to rest without his demons haunting him. she wants him to heal. she is ready to tear open her chest and hand him her heart if that’s what will bring him some peace. but her love is so so selfish in the grand scheme of things. she goes to kill him and she fails, despite knowing konoha will never be safe. she fails at being a kunoichi the moment he’s in danger. she’s willing to sacrifice the world for him and that’s so selfish and different from naruto who will ruin himself for the people he loves because he can’t put other people in danger, his morals stopping anyone else from being hurt. sakura, on the other hand, knows all of the risks, the exact body count, and yet she will let deliver the corpses at his feet with tears streaming down her face because she can’t hurt him even if she wants to.
and this brings me so much joy because sasuke yearns for this selfish love. he is a selfish lover and he will destroy the world if he needs to for the people he loves. yet he has not been loved like that in return. itachi, while sparing sasuke, condemned him to a cruel existence and broke such a crucial part of sasuke. naruto, for all of his love, would destroy himself and sasuke in the process of pouring his love out yet he won’t condemn the world for it, not even the wrongdoers. sakura, bright, shining sakura with her silly eyes and gentle soul, will crush anyone, let bodies wither and die before they can even touch sasuke.
and i wonder whether both of them see the horrible yet gentle things they are capable of in each other. whether sakura continued to cling to him for the way he broke the ninja’s hands or sasuke let his heart open up when he heard her going toe to toe against the dissenters who hate him.
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