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boxesblr · 5 months

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Rotating Etho's choice to protect his allies in my mind. Obviously they made incredible escapes and held their own but Etho also refusing to sell out Cleo and Grian meant that nearly everyone else died, some died multiple times, most lost additional hearts, hurt alliances (Scott: Gem has no band loyalty!), and did not gain something like 120 hearts total

Meanwhile, Cleo and Grian get to feel secure in their alliance, not go red, and actually finish their tasks. The playing field has obviously been levelled significantly and they still suffered, but Etho facilitated his alliance gaining the most where everyone else lost the most

Obviously it's a display his loyalty first and foremost but he also played the game, ran the numbers, and counted himself out of success knowing it would be diminishing returns to go after them and I just think that's neat

#i dont know how itll play socially with the rest of the server but it was cool #skizz hunting tango and saying he wants him back #tango saying hes not afraid to end him #gem attacking scott and him recognising it as a betrayal #bdubs peeling off to talk to martyn about being a big dog #its great content and its easy to get swept up in the task and i dont fault anyone for the choices they made #but etho took a step back and said actually who does this help? me? at the cost of my alliance?#grian who begged for friends and cleo who has made no secret about how much loyalty matters to her #eoughjjj #secret life spoilers #trafficblr #ethoslab #sorry for ethoposting #also just to reiterate hes not solely responsible for the collective failure or protecting his allies #he could have reasonably assumed that scott series winner smajor would have escaped and it would be a lost cause regardless #and cleo enderpearld all over the server and grian invis pot from his tower they did a lot

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torgawl · 6 months

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i keep thinking about how “is this what justice means to you, answer me neuvillette”, despite having been used in a case all those hundred of years ago, was probably a question that haunted - and still haunts - neuvilette during the entire time he has been chief of justice. i keep thinking about how they highlighted his struggles through time with both carole and wriothesley's trials. how guilty and powerless neuvillette must have felt for not being able to support and save those he recognised as vulnerable and victims before a system that corrupted their fates but that he wasn't able to change despite his position. the theme of being a casualty of a system no matter if you're the victim or the perpetrator in its eyes. the way neuvillette took, in both cases, things into his own hands. even if it was too late to fix the hurting carole and those who cared for her went through, even if it was too late to save her life; even if it was impossible to change wriothesley's past, his verdict and subsequent imprisonment; neuvillette went above and beyond, making use of his influence, to allow both melusines and wriothesley the opportunity of a better future - to melusines by making sure they weren't discriminated, to wriothesley by supporting his attempt at a second chance in life. i think part of the reason he's so intriguing is our awareness that this internal conflict he's bound to have is so complex. you have a chief of justice, or a judge, that is supposed to be imparcial and follow the law stictly confronted with situations of social injustice, unable to protect those who rely on him. you have someone who understands better than anyone what it means to be an outcast, being able to relate to those who are ostracised and have their pain weaponise against them. you have, in vautrin's case, a friend who cannot even showcase his own pain and is still expected to fullfil his juridical duties despite being personally related with those involved in the case. someone who people constantly turn to but whom he feels like he has no right to turn to himself. it's about the conflict between his feelings and his duty, between what's expected of him and what he can actually do. i think that's why the end of his story quest is so emotional and why it's so heartwarming to have him realise he isn't an outcast anymore, that he has a community there for him too. because a system is a system and he will probably never be able to save everyone, because yes he isn't human, but it doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to belong or that an active demonstration of love towards individuals and people he can relate to rather than the theoretical concept of humanity isn't meaningful. in fact, i'd it's a lot about that, about finding ways to be kind and how community gives meaning to life; how personal relationships and targeted kindness can shape society, or at least i think so

#i don't know if this makes sense but i like how character's stories in fontaine are interconnected in the perfect way that they're used to #give depth to each other while also existing perfectly independently #i forgot to add navia's story to the post but that's also another scenario used to characterise neuvillette #the same way wriothesley's backstory exists independently but it's also used to give depth into neuvillette's character and his motivations #the same way navia and clorinde's probably will as well #i always headcanoned (is that a verb 😂) neuvillette and wrio's friendship stemming from neuvillette trying to atone to his silence during #wrio's trial. i think it makes sense. i think it probably meant a lot to wrio too to have someone be so trustworthy after everything he #went through the betrayal from his adoptive family and his only aid through his life being the melusines who aren't human #and neuvillette being that sort of comforting older figure especially probably feels familiar to wrio #i have no idea what i'm trying to say actually i have a big headache at the moment and i feel almost delirious but i just love the concept #of neuvillette as a character and i think a lot about his friendship with wriothesley how it began and the grief and guilt neuvillette #probably still carries #but also about how he also gets the chance to a brighter future and how he achieves it so naturally without even realising #how he never expected anything from his compassion even if he saw it as duty and didn't interpret his own kindness as anything other than #his own responsabilty towards others #like idk am i making sense???#he's just so cool 😂#like yeah there's a layer of there's no reason he would have any animotisity towards humans because they're not at fault for the primordial #one's actions but from that to actually actively being so empathetic and compassionate goes a bit of a long way?!#okay i'm over i'll shut up this is probably si confusing i apologise if anyone read this mess shsjhs #this is also influenced by my tbk brainrot because loving others actively is a big theme and i just think that's beautiful actually #genshin thoughts #genshin impact #my post

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fdragon-art · 5 months

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Day 20 (30 Days | Homestuck - Day 6) - Exiles/Consorts (PM (as Parcel Mistress))

"Even a broken and bloodied world cannot stop the call to duty."

=Thoughts=

I had intended to something perspective-wise like the past few pieces (Jake excluded), but it seems that I wasn't able to quite imagine how that would look. It's hard to reduce the awe this particular scene displays, though.

I went for something pretty simple in the end: A stalwart Parcel Mistress, eyeing the next steps of this treacherous and deadly fetch quest, all in the name of maintaining civility. I didn't really want to draw much of the background, but the small piece of the battlefield at the bottom was just plain necessary; this was a big moment for her.

Clothes are not something I tend to do much with, so a lot of this is very much just looking at references shots of her and duplicating the outfit. It's funny just how many parallel lines are involved in the fit. It's funnier again that the skirt(?) portion just seems to flat-out change when it's torn up.

There's not really much else to say about the piece, aside from smoke being really annoying to draw.

#homestuck #30days #pm #parcel mistress #peregrine mendicant #year 4 #art #I'll admit that I didn't remember that it also said ''consorts'' but I don't think I would've picked otherwise. PM's an underrated characte #I mean she drives so much of the plot in the first quarter of the comic and becomes a pivotal piece in the second #(Plus her satisfying finale right at the end of the comic.. beating Jack and finally tossing the rings into the volcano)#Out of all the characters in Homestuck - and I do mean every single one - she's probably the legit most badass character in it #Just from the fact that she doesn't have much power.. but her sheer determination to hold to her values of delivering the mail pushes her #through all the challenges she faces.. not once turning back even when things get so deadly anyone weaker-willed would not have lived #She just powers through because that's all she can do. Anything else would be betrayal to all that she holds important.#And it's just So. Damn. Cool.#...I really should draw her more~

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diamondpython00 · 2 years

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I was rewatching some clips from Hollow Mind, and I had an interesting question come to mind - why is the “true” Belos in the form of a child? Usually, childhood and children are symbols of immaturity and purity, two things one would not associate with Belos. But then I remembered all the paintings in the background of Phillip and his brother, several of which show them as young children. Belos is a kid in his mind because he never really matured past that stage - on some level, he’s still that six year old trying to play witch hunter with his brother. That’s why he’s constantly making and killing grimwalkers. Because he could never get past the fact that his brother turned out to be someone other than the idealized person he had built up in his head, Phillip decided that the only possible option was to repeatedly clone his brother until he made one that matched the ideal, then go live out his dreams of committing genocide with his brother by his side. What a well written villain - the Owl House team has made him so easy to hate.

#the owl house #toh #toh spoilers #belos #phillip whittebane #emperor belos #hollow mind #hollow mind spoilers #some of the grimwalker betrayals were definitely just them not living up to that idealized person #grimwalker: but my emperor why would we do that #belos: wow bestie you’re really not acting like my idealized version of you #its cool how he also parallels lilith #lilith was also unable to get over her childhood #but because she was also less of a shit person #she got over it enough to eventually make the right chocies #philip on the other hand will probably be like this for the rest of his life #what a pathetic bastard

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unproduciblesmackdown · 2 years

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also like the one fury road reference in billions seeming so like unspecific to me at first that i was like uh could that have just been Any reference to any media where any character spits in someone’s face. and then at some point in the however many times i’ve reexperienced the scene since being aware of that reference it’s like, well here’s a reminder of everything else going on around that, and i had the half joking thought like nux is going on back there like “he is the one who grabs the sun” and i’m like well axe would be like, wow great employee attitude. it has also then occurred to me like, it might be weird for axe to be like “i am nux in this scenario, who would be that lowest level employee and who everyone’s going like aw he’s pathetic we don’t have to kill him” and the like. But Then wretchedly it’s like well i would bet that looking at this movie as a whole, axe Could relate to the villain / go “wowww too antihero. unsympathetic” about furiosa because he’s going like “uhh fucked up if someone high ranking is entrusted with resources and this exchange task and even gets a shoutout from their boss & then they’re like, bye actually” like What a betrayal. my epic former employee character of all time who just defected will be so pwned if i compare them to this epic protagonist character of all time pwning someone who’s just said that you can’t defy him(tm) like, everyone would understand the perspective that that’s fucked up / you should say you’re like the antagonists in this scenario

#prince would Also relate to the villain; maybe even harder lol. like well my execution would be superior & more Truly benevolent...#everyone wanting to be the sun god around here and boy i hope my ''employees'' never do sm shit like this #can't imagine axe or anyone like him would have the same experience of this film but Hilarious to be like yea ofc im like the villain #just a few minor differences and the rest is actually all like well points were made / i'm sure there's a lot to respect here #prince is dying to make a show of gracing people with his branded water #winston billions #fury road #mmfr #soph tossing me this Noted Ref like here it's your little media....and i'm like i can't believe axe is shit at referencing it. except i can #but then it Is also really something if you presume him pwning himself by going ''you're like the protagonist who's pwning me to hell'' is #like b/c he Is mad abt the entire premise there lol like oof ouch yes i relate to the villain here & s/o to his loyal venerators #the constant fun in that like minute and a half. me pausing every ten seconds like here's another commentary moment abt furiosa from me.#so the ''bizarre to indignantly posit that taylor's the epic hero here'' is still like yep it is. he just might be Indignant abt that entire #perspective though lol like heyyy that's so fucked up. not cool. what a betrayal. etc etc.#totally like axe to have Seen that ever; vs the like inadvertent word of mouth advertising that were the cishet dudes mad bc women; but that #then he'd still like. not get or just not like the Points lol / be like well obviously this protagonist is the antagonist to me #look how slick he's fooled you warboy....

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wayward-wren · 2 years

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Been thinking about the line from Doctor Who series 10 episode 1 that went something along the lines of "She's looking for what everyone is - someone who's looking for us."

And that's not an uncommon theme in media. It speaks to the very human need for connection and wanting a place to belong. It's the idea of 'if you find the right people, if you love the right people and are loved by the right people, you will be happy." It's why the found family trope is such a popular trope.

(And as an aside, I think it's a very common lgbt+ theme. "If you identify as lgbt+ then you will be loved by this group of people no matter what, just because of who you are." Which is very evident in that Doctor Who episode, because both characters in question were women.)

But people disappoint and emotions get in the way and the world is fallen. Fulfilment isn't found in people who love us or who we love.

The only person who won't disappoint is God - and God is looking for us. God came to earth for us, gave His son to die a horrible death for us. We're looking for God - someone who's looking for us, who has found us - the only person who won't disappoint.

#Do you really think I care so little for you that betrayal would make any difference?#DW #wren rambles #the more i think about that episode the more CHRISTIAN it is #it's cool #love seeing themes in media!#trying to notice and think a lot more #also thinking about 12's line #maybe one day i'll make another post about that because AUGH #love it when the doctor is a christ figure #sometimes he very much Is Not but sometimes the Christian truths can't help but shine through

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do-what-the-knight-tells-you · 2 years

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Two things I'm chewing on post- Umbrella Academy Season 3.

HEAVY SPOILERS

The First one is old!five, in a separate post over here.

The second one is: Allison’s arc, and how the siblings respond to it, and what we may see going forward

The show doesn't have the greatest track record with following character arcs... Some of Viktor's isolation from the first season is addressed in the second season etc, and they do in general you know seem to mature and change somewhat. Klaus probably has one of the most distinct arcs of anyone, and that's actually (I expect)for the same reason that Victor does, because it's connected to their power use... But in general, arc continuity is patchy.

So, an element of second season I hope not to see repeated is that because of the length of time that the characters experience between first and second season, a lot of them felt to me like we didn't have to deal with their characters from the first season. Character problems they had or interpersonal issues etc we're dropped or smoothed over with that transition. Now, I'm hoping that is a direct result of the time weirdness at the beginning of second season, and we're not going to see that in fourth. I'm hoping that that fourth will resume pretty much immediately where third left off.

Allison's grief and anger spiral, her failure to deal with that, her lashing out and escalation of power use was a lot this season, and it was handled inconsistently and in my opinion not particularly well by the other characters.

I'm curious whether that's because the writers aren't sure how to handle it, or weren't noticing how far they've taken it... Or if it's a case of something that they're planting now to be used later.

In the following sections, I will say things like “I was frustrated”, and I want to be clear: since we do not obviously know where 4th season will go, assuming they get that last season they are hoping for, it’s possible that some of the things I mention are intentional on the part of the writers, and I/we are Meant to be frustrated! That’s cool. Not knowing if we are Intended to feel frustrated with a character, or if it’s accidental and it’s really the writers that are frustrating, is one of the pitfalls of talking about stuff before it’s done. So when I say things like “I was frustrated”, please keep that in mind, that I am discussing my own response to the behavior / portrayal of a fictional character whose arc is not yet finished. This is not intended as any kind of critique of how Real People in the Real World do or should handle their trauma.

Thanks.

Long-ish exploration of Allison’s S3 choices under the cut.

I was very frustrated. I was frustrated, feeling like she was spending a lot of time blaming anyone and everyone and lashing out, and not nearly so much time actually working through things, or owning up to pieces of her own behavior, or seeking help from her siblings, particularly siblings who may actually have a chance of understanding and having good advice. (The fact that this is a perfectly fine arc for a character to go through, if it’s paid off later, doesn’t make it not frustrating, if that’s the plan. things can be frustrating and Also good writing.)

(though, a point in the column of it being a writing mistake is potentially not-great handling wrt racial dynamics. This is not my topic to speak on, but Even I felt like it was a bit weird that she was the only one with much awareness the civil rights movement was going on in S2. Like sure, it’‘l hit her differently, obviously, and she has the potential to be more/differently caught up in it, but it does at time feel like shes on a veeeery different show than the others. with awk crossovers. So the idea the writing may be uniquely awk for her in other places isn’t a bad one.)

It’s a pretty standard Umbrella move for the siblings to not be Particularly aware of what’s going on with each other... whole plot lines are built on it, Whole siblings go missing without notice, whole wars are fought in vietnam... etc.

But for Viktor and Allison, they have apparently talked some already! So for once, that shouldn’t be the issue. and they should have the most in common. both lost partners, though obviously of different lengths and intensities, and to a certain degree they both lost children. Victor didn't birth his, but there's no way he didn't feel parental about Harlan (which, God, makes Allison's decision there all the worse and more despicable). And they both were living in a time period where their identities were restricted/marginalized/criminalized.

They should have some traumas in common, they should have some griefs in common. He could have been a good source of support and advice for her.

Because whether his experience was shorter in that era, or he learned a lot more about how to deal with his emotions and trauma after the disastrous end of the first season/revelations of second (possibly partly because he knows now at high cost that he can't afford to lash out, that too many people get hurt if he lashes out, if his self-control fails)... Viktor seems able to take his similar losses and griefs and experiences and grow from them now, and move on, where Allison is very much still stuck in her grief and trauma, and also is fundamentally unable/unwilling to see that there is any element of her own behavior in it.

I'm obviously not trying to like blame her for her own trauma and loss top-to-bottom... I'm just remembering the way in which her original loss of her daughter was because of her own mistake / misuse of her power. She would not have been available/willing to go hang out with them at Reginald's funeral in the first place, and thereby get caught up in all the other family drama and dragged back to the '60s and all of that, had she not been estranged from her new family because of her own mistake.

When you add to that the fact that a logical assumption about changing the past will be that it changes the future, it definitely should have been a risk people were acknowledging that when they got to the future something like her kid not having been born was a possibility.

I think it's a possibility that other characters had acknowledged, incl non-viktor characters, and that's why there were a few comments sort of urging her to wait or be cautious when she went to look for her daughter... And I would have rather seen her anger directed more broadly on that subject, than again straight at Viktor and then Harlan, who we know was innocent. Like he did it, but it was an accident and sort of an understandable one.

I personally just couldn't stop thinking about that anytime she got mad and attributed this whole mess solely to Viktor. Like friend, you had some agency in that. Specifically, you had some agency in your original estrangement from your family, and you had some agency in what happened to Viktor and the ways in which he was pushed into the explosion in that first season. And you're not owning up to any of that. It would obviously be very painful to own up to it, but you're not owning up to any of it and that's helping you get self-righteous about it and completely externalize your anger and hurt. It’s obviously devastating to have gone through all of this, and to have made the hard choice to leave your partner for your daughter, and suuuuuper devastating to make that exchange and lose them both... but yeah. Diving into anger instead, while not unexpected, is obvs not good.

And we see on the show that it's escalating, from her willingness to assault Luther, to outright murder of a vulnerable and (mostly)innocent man. This is not like five making his way through the time agency. She could have handed Harlan over alive. With her power? Absolutely. Instead, she chose to kill him, she wanted to kill him, and he was very vulnerable at that point. And again, more or less innocent.

She chose to kill someone who she knew couldn't fight back and was likely viewed by Viktor as a sort of adoptive kid.

So we have that, that feels like it was not addressed as deeply as I would have liked, and we have her attempting to SA Luther (Which, in universe I can maybe see why someone with his backstory mightn't have given that more weight, could have been more likely to just sort of default back to the fact that these kinds of things happen to him, his bodily agency is violated multiple times over the course of his life, I can see why he might not have given that quite as much weight, not as much as it deserves, might not have held her to account as strongly as I feel she should have been)...

And we have Five and the others spending a lot more time critiquing Viktor (Viktor who did lie to them again, and we can see why they would be concerned about his lying, but was lying to them in order to protect someone he views a little bit as his kid and definitely as his fault/ responsibility... This is Viktor's fatal flaw, and a good one since you understand why he continues to end up in these positions... I appreciate the uncertainty in Harlan's portrayal where there were a few moments where you thought perhaps he was evil and Viktor had fallen for the exact same damn ploy once more), and the sibs not really censuring Allison until she crosses that line and makes the basement comment to Viktor. Which is a big red line that they finally recognize as a line since that's what originally pushed Viktor over the edge, to everyone's detriment, in first season.

So. Do the rest of the siblings not speak out on her behavior more/sooner because

1. Messy writing, writers not realizing how far they've pushed this

2. The siblings themselves not noticing how bad Allison is getting, partly as a feature of the normal umbrella academy trope where they do not talk to each other enough, despite all the talking they do

3. Are they seeing it but they don't know what to do about it? They know how to talk to Viktor, now, they know how to correct Viktor. Do they not know how to correct Allison? Are they concerned that if they correct her too much, she will use her power on them? Do they feel so uncomfortable with or ignorant of the trauma she's been through that they don't know how to navigate well enough to correct her? Additionally, there’s a potential arrogance/assumption that she’s more right/more knowledgeable about interpersonal dynamics etc element that's part of her character particularly in the first season that could be brought in here/contribute to this.

I personally am hoping that a lot more of number three is going on, and that we will see some of this addressed in the last season. That we will see her have to face more seriously the nature of her power and face the fact that when the going gets tough and she gets frustrated or upset, then she drops her moral reservations against using her power in certain ways. That we will see other people impose and maintain boundaries with her for these reasons... And that we see her figure out how to, if she can, deal with and live with the traumas and griefs she has experienced. Whether that's by actually asking for support from her family, especially from family members who would get it, or whether that is a more individualistic method of dealing with it.

Anyway. I found it fascinating. An enjoyable season for me, much in the line of previous seasons. It had its problems, but again, they were a lot like previous problems I've seen, and did not bother me for the most part.

Here's hoping for a fourth and final season!

#I particularly liked how they handled the trans stuff #apparently this is partly because most of the season was written already when Elliot came out #So they were almost forced to handle it as casually as they did #I thought they handled it well #The scene about the party and Luther was freaking adorable #My only critique is that Allison would definitely have been transphobic at the end #She's willing to outright say that the family should have left Victor in the basement #She's invoking extrems trauma he went through and betrayal and neglect by his family in an attempt to hurt him #there's no reason she wouldn't also have been potentially transphobic to try to hurt him #dead named him or misgendered him or whatever #Except I'm sure that this was also a conscious decision on the writing to not be transphobic #Which is also a fine choice #Just not to even go there #I'm cool with that #Just stuck out to me when she was being deliberately cruel that she didn't also choose to be cruel in that way #umbrella academy #umbrella academy spoilers #umbrella academy meta

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