#and i don't really ship lukanette

[starlight-vixen-emiko]

Me musing about Vipernette

There is just something so aesthetically pleasing about sea foam green and bubble gum pink together.

#lukanette #pro lukamari #vipernette #I mean I don't just pick my ships based off aesthetic #but this is something I think about everytime I write Vipernette #plus I really love sea foam green #so Viperion's design is perfect to me...

[gaby-artsy]

Hey ! So I know this isn't a Smoker drawing BUT I think I needed to draw something else for once. Don't get me wrong, I'll still draw our lovely Vice-Admiral (my hyperfixation clearly isn't over) but for now, here's a Lukanette sketch that I've done today!

My relationship with Miraculous Ladybug is... Weird. I don't really like the show per say but I still watch it because, you know, I've already spend so much time watching so I might as well watch until the end. However, I've ALWAYS really loved Luka. Ever since I started watching Miraculous, Luka has been a big comfort character of mine. And I'm also a Lukanette shipper. I don't care if you don't like the ship or that the ship will never be canon, I love it and I think it should have been endgame.

Please, stay tuned for other drawings, some of Smoker and some of other fandoms I'm in!

Love you all <33

#my art #my drawings #fanart #digital sketch #digital art #digital doodle #digital drawing #lukanette #luka couffaine #marinette dupain cheng #miraculous ladybug #miraculous fanart

[blueberry-macaron]

I'm in a salt mode so lets get into this

One of the biggest problems people had with the L//S is how poorly developed it's been and how less effort it has been put into it, And don't get me started how Adrichat and Maribug barely interact basically making the ship have 0 chemistry.

But then when ships like Lukanette and Adrigami came along, then there's some Toxic L//S stans who bash the characters (and doxx lukanette and adrigami shippers), with their only excuse being "ThEy R iN tHe Way of adr///ette/L//s (Mainly because they're insecure that Lukanette/Adrigami has Chemistry, proper development and effort and their ship doesn't)

I'm so sick and tired of the hate that Lukanette/Adrigami gets.

I'm so sick and tired of the hate that Luka/Kagami gets.

I'm so sick and tired of toxic L//S stans projecting their ship on every. single. damn. thing

I'm so sick and tired of seeing Lukanette/Adrigami shippers get d0xxed, threatened and bullied just because they don't ship the L//S or Adr//ette

Yikes, people doxxed each other because of ships?? For some reason I'm not entirely surprised. I've seen fandoms with super toxic people and the ml fandom sure can be toxic as hell. If you (general) get so worked up about people's opinions about characters from a kids show, you should be denied access to the internet and instead have access to tons grass to touch. But yeah, even just "normal hate" can be frustrating and discouraging, so it's best to just block those people. I completely understand your frustration.

Luka//nette isn't good because they were half canon, it's good because they have a meaningful bond and the root for drama is always outside circumstances and not the fact that they fundementally don't work together. If Mari wasn't Ladybug, they probably wouldn't have split up. That's why I love this ship so much. Besides, they never got in the way of anything. Realistically, no ship can get in the way of a confirmed endgame ship bc, well, it's endgame. So this argument is kind of falls flat (honestly most arguments against Luka//nette I've heard were either not really important or kind of a very outlandish interpretation of their relationship, I don't care about either.)

Heck, even if Luka//nette wasn't the rival ship but just friends in canon who interacted twice, who cares? Shipping isn't supposed to be serious, it's exploring different dynamics between characters and having fun putting them in different scenarios and have them have 6176310278 different first kisses. There's no rule that you have to be on board with the canon ship.

Now speaking of L//S developement (bc now I'm also in a salty mood and I have thoughts)

I and many others have already talked about how s1-4 didn't really do much with them. But I find it funny when people say that s5 did a great job developing they're relationship because... bitch where? I've watched season 5 (I have no self respect) and everything was confusing and over the place and I think that's bc the writers can't make up their minds about which problems the L//S might face actually matter and how they can be solved.

The season starts with Mari making a big deal about how loving Adrien is dangerous because hero stuff. Oh but actually it doesn’t matter, she likes CN now, problem solved! Oh wait no Chat friendzoned her and Adrien is pushing real hard for Adr//nette so they give up their fucking miraculous (in times of crisis I might add), problem solved! No wait, actually the new heroes suck so they take them back, but that’s okay bc being in love and being a superhero at the same time is actually no longer a problem for some reason! The actual problem is that Mari is incapable of expressing herself because she has trauma. And THAT’S the real shit because fucking everybody gets so invested they organize literal dates for them and watch from a distance until they smooch instead of, oh idk, letting them do things their own way. But actually that also doesn't matter anymore bc Zoe just confessed and Mari was so inspired she immediately ran to Adrien. Oh but Adrien is a senti without free will and he goes to england soon whoopsie. Also Gabriel and Tomoe are now Adri//gami shippers because of course we need an arranged marriage deal type of plot. Oh yeah there's also something about Monarch apparently having all the miraculouses but who cares amirite

See what I mean? There's no structure, no actually overcoming problems, it's just random shit happening without any connection to the previous random shit. The characters don't develop in a meaningful way. Mari's only life goal is making one cohesive sentence in front of Adrien and he's kind of just there. I mean he could maybe feel inspired by Marinette's passion for arts and crafts and try out some stuff or he could continue to have no direction in life. Yes, as a teen it's hard knowing what you want to do later in life, but Adrien doesn't even really have actual hobbies he can define himself through. The writers fail not only to develop the relationship as a whole but also the characters involved as people. They could as easily be a situationship where they meed every two days to make out and it wouldn't change anyting. It's just fan service here and there combined with shallow and forgettable dialogue (I think, there wasn't a conversation that stick with me at least) and idk this maybe works as a first love that maybe lasts for a year before they have a dramatic break up and then move on with their lives, But the show tries to sell this idea that the square will actually stay together forever (or have a constant toxic on-off thing bc that's the vibe I'm getting. Plus Bunnyx sort of implied that).

#ask #honeyblossom-20 #ml salt #love square salt #I can't really say much about Adr//gami since I don't really care for the ship that much #they're not bad but I kinda wish the show would've taken them into a different direction

[miraculouslbcnreactions]

Hello. I've been binge reading your meta post an I loves all of it. I have one question, though I don't know if you had the same question or not. If you had I'm sorry feel free to ignore this but if you hadn't, this is my question. Many people said Adrien as sentimonster is a good plot and the other said it's also good metaphor for abuse children. But what do you think about the senti plot? Is it necessary? And what do you think the writer is trying to achieve with the plot if Adrien doesn't even allowed to know about what he is?

Thank you! I'm glad that you've been enjoying my rambles! I don't think I've touched on those aspects of the sentiplot, so here goes!

Is it Necessary/What's The Goal?

I don't think that the sentiplot is even remotely necessary. My two cents is that it reads like something that was added relatively last-minute in order to add some cheap drama to draw the plot out because they didn't have enough content to organically fill seven seasons. Part of the reason that I'm comfortable saying that is because we've seen the writers do this type of move many times before. I don't wanna get too into the weeds on this, but a good example is the love triangles with Luka and Kagami.

Luka and Kagami are never treated as real alternate love interests. They're just road blocks on the love square highway that allow for seasons three to end on a cliff hanger. The fact that season four opens on two episodes meant to reassure the audience that Lukanette and Adrigami are doomed to fail is proof of this. No one is actually supposed to ship those ships. There's no Team Luka vs Team Adrien. It's just cheap drama.

The other reason that I feel comfortable calling the sentiplot cheap shoehorned drama is because the sentiplot has no teeth. A big reason why I refused to believe that it was going to be a thing was because it's an extremely serious plot that has no place in a Y-7 show. The wielder of raw destruction can have his free will overwritten at any time! The show has made jewelry theft a common teenage past time! This is bad!

And yet, once it's introduced, it goes nowhere. Gabe gives the most lackluster commands humanly possible and Nathalie undoes every one of them before they have a chance to meaningfully impact the plot. The biggest fallout of the sentiplot was that the Adrienette kiss got delayed a bit. How terrifying.

If the sentiplot had the weight it deserved, then it would have destroyed Adrientte in a big, dramatic fashion. Gabriel would have commanded Adrien to date Kagami and Tomoe would have done the same for Kagami re Adrien. But that's too serious, so we don't even get Gabe telling Adrien to break up with Marinette. He just tells Adrien to not see her and Marinette never has any clue that something went wrong there because Nathalie undoes the command two minutes later.

The Sentiplot's and Emilie

You may have read the previous section and thought, "But wait, doesn't the sentiplot give an explanation for why Emilie used the peacock? Didn't we need that?"

No, we didn't. Felix's little play and Gabe's memory of the night they used the peacock both heavily imply that no one knew that the peacock would kill you. It's why Felix exists! His father did not willingly give his life to have a kid and neither did Emilie. It was an unknown side effect.

Imo, it would have actually been better if Emilie hadn't used the peacock for such obviously selfish reasons. I mean, is anyone really saying, "Oh no, the rich lady used forbidden magic (and possibly killed some people?) to get a designer baby, then faced unexpected consequences! How awful for her! She didn't deserve that!"

Wouldn't it have been a far more interesting and complex story if Emilie used the peacock because she wanted to help someone else? If she was an unambiguously good person who suffered for doing the right thing or even just a morally gray thing? Wouldn't that make Gabriel's quest feel more righteous and less like a temper tantrum by a rich, entitled white guy who used his wealth in a morally dubious manner and paid for it?

The Sentiplot as an Abuse Metephor

I don't think that the writers meant for the sentiplot to be an abuse metaphor. In fact, I sincerely hope they didn't because it's a terrible one! Or, at least, a depressing one.

Abuse - especially childhood abuse - is something that sticks with us. A lot of victims will be forever scared by what they went through. But just because they bare scares doesn't mean that they're trapped by their abuse and can never break free. This is true even if the abuse caused mental health issues like PTSD or CPTSD, conditions that can never be cured because you know what they can be? Controlled and mitigated to the point where the victim is no longer ruled by their condition.

There's also the fact that abuse victims - especially child abuse victims - can and often do reach a point where their abusers no longer have any power over them. I have personally seen a child abuse victim go thought the process of realizing that their parent is just another adult now. All the power that the parent once held is gone. The child doesn't depend on them for food and shelter anymore. If the abuse starts up again, then the child can just get up and walk away.

That's not true for a sentimonster. Sentimonsters don't grow up and get more agency/power. At any point, their abuser can get ahold of their amok and override their free will, taking away the sentimonster's freedom even if the sentimonster is on another continent! There is no means of true escape.

No abuse victim will ever be that powerless. Abuse victims can escape abuse and they do have true free will. Sentimonsters will always be sentimonsters.

Is the Sentiplot Good?

No. It's too serious for a kids show. In fact, now that it's canon, here's my two cents: all of the sentikids are massive liabilities to the team who need to give up their miraculouses immediately because they can never be truly trusted. Felix has shown us time and time again how easy it is to steal an amok and replace it with a fake, so we must always assume that the sentikids are compromised because to assume otherwise is to invite the miraculouses to fall into the wrong hands. It's just not worth the risk to trust a senti.

Along the same lines, the love square should never be canon unless Marinette gives up Guardianship because Adrien is a liability to the safety of the miraculouses even if he didn't wield on himself. The only way to get around this issue is to use the wish to make the sentikids human, but Gabe failed to even do that one kindness for his son, so here we are. Season six will either drive this point home by having Lila use the amoks to mess with Adrien or it will drop the sentiplot forever, proving just how cheap and poorly thought out it was.

Other issues I think I've already addressed in other posts, but that are still a problem that make the plot bad:

a sentimonster's creator defines the sentimonster's worth, thus there being no issue with Felix making sentimonsters and then killing them or the heroes destroying them, but it would somehow be wrong if we did the same thing to any of the sentikids

any command you give a sentimonster can be overwritten and sentimonsters can't resist even if they know they're being controlled, so there's truly no hope to free them

giving your leading lady anxiety issues and a boyfriend whose free will is constantly in jeopardy is cruel and unusual punishment

an insane number of lore issues like why is it impossible to destroy other sentimonsters, but Adrien can be destroyed in akuma fights? Cataclysms are pure destruction! It makes no sense that akumas can do what a cataclysm can't. And is Adrien able to die a natural death? What happens to his amok when he does? Will his children be able to be controlled by his amok too since they're part of him?

the lore around Gabe & Emilie finding the miraculous makes no sense and should not be possible. That's another rant, though.

#senti salt #ml writing salt #ml writing critical #ml season 5 salt #adrien deserves better #this plot is only suited to an angsty or bittersweet ending #I don't know how you can hope for a happy ending when Adrien is forever a slave

[libellule-saphique]

Miraculous Season 5: Luka & Kagami's Wasted Potential

If this show wasn't already bad enough.........

Like everything else, it disappoints me that the writers of this show are lazy when it comes to additional character development essentially in the love rivals

but who am I kidding? I knew what to expect when Thomas quite literally said Gabriel was redeemable after torturing all of Paris for years simply because he wants his wife back actively neglecting & abusing his son in the process while in the same breath saying Chloe is beyond redemption and she's a teenage girl who's dad couldn't give a rat's ass about her and spoils her crazy to get her off his back 24/7 and her mom who wants nothing to do with her verbally & mentally abuses her with the only real people who like her to the slightest and tolerate her are Sabrina and Armand who's practically her butler. The double comparison and double standard is wild but nonetheless not surprising seeing how the show's narrative is already bias when it comes down to Adrien & Marinette's character treatment. (the misogyny and racism is loud as hell)

Season 4 of Miraculous was already beginning to go downhill and season 5 simply added icing on the cake. To be honest I was partly excited to see the relationship dynamic within the love rival relationships, Lukanette & Adrigami at the start of season 4 because it was different from the repetitive love square and we got to see our two main leads interact with other characters in a romantic light other than themselves only to end before they could really start. It was a slap in the face and a huge cut from some possible major character development and love square progress. But the writers are so afraid of change and cant manage to make a good progressive storyline and felt that Luka & Kagami were too much of a threat to their Love Square that could've heavily improved because of them in the first place. Some episodes could've been focused on friendships between the love rivals and Marinette & Adrien. But ofc we get the same monotonous plotline mid season 3 to the beginning of season 4 Adrien & Kagami spend more time together, Marinette is conflicted and overwhelmed with feelings, Luka is there for emotional support (which felt like his sole purpose in earlier episodes even until now) Kagami is constantly frustrated by Adrien's indecisiveness, passiveness, and hesitance, etc, etc whatever and it continues all until they break up.

Then out of the wood works, we get Adrien realizing he has feelings for Marinette despite her being quote on quote "just a friend" 3-4 seasons straight. Despite. Marinette putting a hold on relationships ever since Lukanette's breakup and the fact that Monarch is still on the prowl and her responsibilities as a hero, because lets be honest if Ladybug/Marinette doesn't tend to Paris & Monarch no one else will, (Chat Noir definitely won't) the writers still say "hey lets tend to and coddle Adrien's feelings bc now he likes her more than "just a friend" and it doesn't matter how Marinette feels, doesn't matter if she's not ready for a relationship even though she's made that clear on multiple occasions after her and Luka's breakup bc at the end of day what we learn is what we already know "Adrien's feelings are more important than Marinette's overall treatment as the female protagonist and discomfort."

And what do you ask happens to the love rivals? Of course! the writers have to find a way to string them away from the complicated love square

Instead we get Luka shipped off with his dad on a world tour and Kagami paired with Felix (which........also doesn't feel right and for what reason did this have to happen?) Felix is the same guy who quite literally SH Ladybug, but ok? the writers feel like it makes sense to pair Kagami with this guy? She seems to like him for the same reasons her and Adrien's relationship took so long to work out in the first place. I don't even know what she saw in him, he's so bland, so passive, and everyone characterizes him as a "perfect cinnamon catboy who's abused and needs emotional support leaning on our main female lead who's not responsible for his baggage at all but hey! Everything is Marinette's responsibility after all right? They decide to give Felix more purpose in the show as Felix's a more assertive, serious, proactive version of Adrien and that's exactly what Kagami's looking for but I honestly think that it's a cop out for the possible unresolved feelings she had/has for Adrien (though he doesn't deserve her anyway) . It's like the show's message when it comes to romance and love is the only way to be genuinely happy is in a relationship which is so beyond fucked up, and its a overall bad message to kids and teens, no one in the show learns to love themselves and learn themselves first, Kagami would be simply fine without any relationship I can say the same for many other characters especially Marinette & Adrien. Why are romantic relationships needed to began with?

Season 5 is a prime example of the garbage dump Miraculous has become over the years and the poor writing decisions the writers have made.

#kagami tsurugi #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #adrien salt #luka couffaine #mlb #miraculous ladybug #miraculous season 5 #love square #adrienette #adrigami #lukanette #chloe bourgeois #gabriel agreste #hawkmoth #tomoe tsurugi

[flightfoot]

Hey, do you have any recommendations for Lukanette, Adrigami, and/or Julerose fics?

I don't generally read Lukanette. The pairing's fine in and of itself, I think that Luka and Marinette would have a happy marriage and a good time together, but I've had so many bad experiences with Lukanette shippers vilifying Adrien, Alya, and the class, that I can't really derive any enjoyment from the ship, I just have too many negative associations with it. Lukadrienette and Lukadrigaminette are fine since I've never had bad experiences with other characters being bashed to promote the poly, but Lukanette... no.

I had about a year where saltfics NEVER LEFT MY HEAD and I kept on having flashbacks to my favorite characters being demonized and vilified and punished for it, with those flashbacks running through my head for hours on end while my throat choked up like I was about to cry, for hours at a time, on a daily basis. I REALLY can't stand anything I associate with that. I still can't stand saltfics, but my throat doesn't close up and I don't get a ton of flashbacks anymore when I see them at least, I just get angry.

There IS still one Lukanette fic series I've liked and recommended, but it's less because of the Lukanette and more because of the exploration of Luka's and Felix's characters (and it turns into FeLuka later on).

As for Adrigami... it's a nice ship, but there's very little content for it, especially in more recent years. It mostly vanished once season 4 got going, and it wasn't exactly common before that. I've got some Adrigaminette and Lukadrigaminette recs if you're interested in those though?

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Boomer!Luka: FeLuka Ending series by @19thsentry-blog

In the Shadows (the first fic in the series) summary:

On one side is Luka, 140-year-old Snake Miraculous holder and keeper of the Guardian's secrets, on the other is Marinette Dupain-Cheng, a relatively newly minted hero of Paris and Guardian of the Miracle Box. Each is looking to fulfill their promises to their now gone mentors to reunite the Kwamis and keep them safe. Sounds simple--until you throw in a rocky start, the Atlantic Ocean, Félix Graham de Vanily, and a whole host of secrets…and suddenly simple becomes complicated (story of Marinette's life, right?).

So this is obviously way outside my normal wheelhouse. I don’t typically read Lukanette fics, even ones that turn into FeLuka later on in the series (though boy it becomes apparent quickly that the author’s fascinated with FeLuka’s dynamic.) But this one is really good, with the best Luka-centric fics I’ve ever read, and some of the best Felix-centric content as well. I love how Luka has his own baggage here, with all the pressure of wandering around for over a century, looking after the few Miraculous he found, trying to keep what’s left of the Order alive, unaware of Fu’s survival or of the Miraculous user’s re-emergence in Paris. There’s a lot of focus on Luka’s own feelings and thoughts and problems, not just on helping other people with them. 

The plot works even without the romantic aspect, so even if Lukanette isn’t a pairing that draws you in, I still recommend this fic, so long as you don’t actively dislike the pairing itself. And even though it’s a Lukanette fic, Adrien and Alya are treated fairly and with respect. Adrien may not end up with Marinette and is bummed about it, but the narrative is still kind to him overall, there’s clearly no ill well towards him, or Alya for that matter. (There are later fics in the series that focus more on Adrien just healing and coping and living after finding out that his father’s a villain and his mom’s been in the basement this whole time, and in the multiversal travel fic, Alya gets some standout appearances as Scarabella which are fun).

And FELIX - it’s clear that 19thsentry has this whole conception about Felix’s psychology. He’s wrapped in a ton of self-loathing until it started to consume him, made him lash out. Him being a sentimonster, wanting to get the Peacock Miraculous, actually gave him some direction for that at least. And he’s just in this pit of his own making, until he meets Luka, who can see through him when no one else can, who cares for him even though he doesn’t understand why, who’d been through so much over the years and yet kept himself kind. He’s attracted like a moth to a flame, infuriated that he cares, yet not able to stop himself from caring about this mysterious, infuriating musician. 

Yeah if you can’t tell this is the series that really sold me on FeLuka as a couple.

Oh yeah, one of the fics in here is M-rated, and it does earn the M rating for sexual content, though it’s nothing too major.

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Three’s company by @torvalvt

Kagami has been doing her best for years to ignore her feelings for her friends. It doesn’t help that Adrien and Marinette insist on spending as much time as possible with her, even going so far as inviting her along on their dates together. If only the affection she felt for them wouldn’t get in the way of their relationship. Because it is growing harder and harder to tamp down her feelings with how close they are getting to her.

This is adorable. Adrien and Marinette really want Kagami to join their relationship and she just doesn’t dare hope for it. If you want some adorable Adrigaminette from Kagami’s perspective, I recommend checking this fic out!

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Hold Me By Both Hands by @angelofthequeers

“I know he said never to take you back,” Plagg mutters. “But he’d change his tune if he knew.” He looks Adrien straight in the eye and, more serious than Adrien’s ever seen him before, says, “There’s someone you gotta meet. He’s been looking for that book for ages.” How differently might the events of season 2 have gone if Adrien had also known of Master Fu from the start?

Look I've literally written a series of essays going over the various aspects of the plot threads in this fic, it's one of the best ML fics I've ever read if you've wanted a fix-it for seasons 2 and 3. Especially with the way Chloe's redemption arc was handled, it's STILL the best Chloedemption arc I've ever read in a Miraculous fic, and I've read a LOT of Miraculous fics.

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You’ll be the prince and I’ll be the princess by @mexicancat-girl

With Team Miraculous now full-time holders, Ladybug has them patrolling in pairs like her and Chat Noir. New partners Pigella and Purple Tigress get along phenomenally, their easy banter and similar wavelengths making working with each other a joy in and out of combat. But sometimes Tigress is surprised just how close she is with her partner. Sometimes she tries not to feel too guilty thinking about it.

There’s some nice Julerose here! I love them kinda getting into a lovesquare with each other, though it’s not as much of a problem as it is in canon since it’s reciprocal in every relationship and they’re both down for a poly. It’s fun, and I love the “Luka attempting to woo some of his love interests” plot going on in the background XD.

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How Could I Not? by SorryJustAnotherPerson

In fairy tale books, Princesses were saved by nights from ferocious dragons. Those books were not their story, but Rose was happy to flip over a new page with her Juleka every single day. Many years ago, she was put to this tower by her parents and her kingdom, along with a fire breathing dragon, so she could find her prince charming one day. How foolish for them to not calculate her falling in love with the dragon. I mean seriously. How could she not?

I love fairy tale type stories, especially fractured fairy tales. And Juleka being a dragon is awesome. This is just a fun and adorable story.

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The echoes there of me and you (The voices that are carrying this tune) by @tiredfloridianbutverygay

Juleka finds herself gifted an old castle in Scotland by an auntie she never even knew she had. At first, she's thinking she'll use it as a vacation home. Then she meets Rose, a ghostly blonde woman from another time who's been alone for decades and who's achingly in need of a friend. Juleka's never believed in the paranormal, the supernatural but it's hard to deny the blonde's existence. It's also hard to deny her growing affection for the specter. The specter, who Juleka knows should be moving on and the specter who Juleka knows might just need a bit of help doing so...

#ask #miraculous ladybug #ml fanfic rec

[ladyofthenoodle]

why alya's s5 position on ladynoir makes sense

even though she's wrong

many people (me) were initially taken aback by alya's insistence that marinette is in love with adrien and not chat noir, when previous seasons had repeatedly shown us that she is an avid ladynoir shipper

however, upon reflection, season 4 actually set this up perfectly

we start with the aftermath of gang of secrets, when a post-lukanette breakup marinette insists she must be alone forever and that she's over adrien, despite evidence to the contrary - a pattern marinette will repeat at the beginning of season 5. alya has seen this behavior before.

she has a front row seat to the adrinette show every single weekday whether she likes it or not (luckily she does). she ended up being right about marinette not being over adrien in mister pigeon 72, so naturally she's not going to believe marinette this time either.

however, despite her supporting adrinette, we season that alya is still on team ladynoir as late as glaciator 2. i don't know that it really occurred to her until that moment that adrinette and ladynoir were competing ships. she knew marinette was ladybug, yes, but i don't know that it really hit her until then that it meant ladynoir and adrinette couldn't both happen. of course, she chooses to support what marinette wants, and commits to team adrinette.

the other crucial development here is rocketear, when alya realizes that secrets aren't sustainable in her own relationship and tells nino the truth. this is called back in her argument with marinette, so we know this is definitely influencing her opinion. marinette insists that she's not alya and she can be with chat noir and not want to reveal their identities, but alya is not convinced (rightly so, if we consider ephemeral, where marinette does eventually reveal herself, and also the fact that marinette told alya in the first place).

alya likely also was witness to several lectures about secret identities from tikki and marinette herself throughout season 4. we don't see every conversation they have on screen, but it's pretty clear alya has taken it to heart by elation

and i think this is why alya remains team adrinette even post-passion when marinette switches to team ladynoir. in season 4, alya had been willing to accept marinette's wishes in terms of who she ended up with, but in the process, she internalized all the reasons marinette gave for why ladynoir couldn't happen. she also experienced first hand the problems with keeping identities from your boyfriend. so by the time marinette is ready to acknowledge her feelings for chat noir, alya's already fully accepted ladynoir cannot happen.

and, well, she still has to witness this nonsense every day

#miraculous ladybug #elation #using my noodle

[jacquesthepigeon]

I really don't like it when people act as if Luka and Kagami and the rival romances are the worst thing to happen in this show.

Maybe I am biased because they are my favorite characters and I am dying on the hill that Lukanette and Adrigami would've been better endgame romances. They were the reason I got into this stupid show in the first place.

I mean I am guessing The Guy wanted romantic drama and you gotta add stakes to this romance to get people to care and it kind of sorta worked even if Lukanette didn't affect Adrien's feelings for Marinette.

I mean people say Lukanette/Adrigami should've been platonic from the start but my million dollar question is...Why must Adrie///nette being romantic? It's the textbook definition of main character rules.

Like this show would've been better if Adrien and Marinette got over their unhealthy obsessions and pursued healthier relationships with Kagami and Luka.

And if people ask me why I still ship them...Truth/Lies purposely made both ships look bad I am not sure why I should stop shipping either because of it. Marinette is at her best when she is with Luka and Kagami was the only character who ever challenged Adrien to be a better person.

But...Both ships are safe with me in my fanfics...Canon doesn't deserve them.

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#starlight-emiko #ask #sorry i dont really have anything to add since i have different feelings than u on the pairings and don’t want to harsh ur vibe #but genuinely keeping them in ur headcanons is the best play #they’re safer there from this wack ass crew

[winter-petal]

Rating ships part 2

Lukanette: I FUCKING LUV THIS SHIP, Lukanette is basically the whole package of a Fantastic ship. Lukanette is healthy, safe, wholesome and cute. Marinette can function properly without stuttering and Luka is the definition of ✨Angelic✨. Tbh i feel like this should have been endgame because to me i feel like Mari and Luka are the one's supposed to be ✨made for each other✨ And i don't need to explain

Julerose: It's a cute ship, i like the idea of a Gothy, shy emo girl who couldn't speak up her mind and a cute, confident and Kind girl who will always stick up for her friends

Conclusion

In the end, all these ships are my favourite and always will be because of their wholesomeness, dynamics and etc

I really wanted to see lukanette for at least more then three damn episodes. The writers rushed through their relationship so that the love square will still get some attention.

Julerose is a pretty interesting and fun ship. Thomas asshole astruc basically said "Yeah sorry but Julerose can't be canon because of the CeNsOr. Yeah anyways lets make it confirmed that Zoe had feelings for Marinette and also lets make it also confirmed that she's pansexual"

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that's all

byeeeeeeeeeee

#miraculous ladybug #lukanette #julerose #honeybloom20-23

[howhow326]

Some of yall bout to be real mad at me...

Breakdown under read more.

Percabeth Energy: True love, made for each other, perfection, flawless, wholesome, zero bad vibes (Note: I planned to leave this part empty, but changed my mind when I saw these two ships)

Julerose is like a star in the void. In a show full of weirdness, these two are proof that an unproblematic relationship trumps all! For that, I give them the honor of Percabeth energy.

Tom and Sabine are just straight Julerose with the added bonus that Tom kicked his racist dad to curb and never looked back. Of only Marinette never found that guy again.

Lumity Energy: Full love, realistic problems but like not in an abusive way, the only reason these ships aren't giving Percabeth is because the show ruined them, yes that is what I'm going with, No I don't think Lumity is bad the name is just a joke

Alya x Marinette is a goated ship, fight me! "bUt WhAt AbOuT lIlA", everyone is an idiot in those episodes! Forgot Lila and remember that Marinette and Alya have a very supportive relationship that's mutual. Although, I couldn't completely forget about Lila which is why it's down here.

Lukanette was robbed. Luka x Adrien was also robbed.

So I don't dislike the gay boys but that one time Nathaniel ripped Marc's sketchbook just sticks in my head even tho he said sorry. It's not even in character for Nathaniel to do that! Oof. Still goated in the sauce.

I used to hate Marichat but then it went on to become the best side of the love square because it got so little focus?! More is less, and Elation is better than three thirds of the love square episodes.

Marinette and Kagami used to be such a wholesome relationship but then season 5 kept dragging out Kagami's kiddie pool sized jealousy for bad Lila episodes. At least I can pretend they don't exist.

Nooro and his only friend in the world. And now they've been separated 😭

BMBLB Energy: Not half bad, just not for me, may or may not be canon/developed well, I'm not criticizing BLBMB its just a joke

Adrien x Juleka could be cute, but it's one of those things that you have to accept will never be canon or even get episodes for it.

All of the other Lovesquare ships got dropped down here because of Arc Fatigue. Ladrien didn't even get a kiss!

Marinette and Marc got better development in Reverser than Nathaniel and Marc did.

"Back in my day, we used to ship Marinette with Nathaniel!" "Sure grandpa, let's get you to bed."

Ivan and Mylene wishes they could be the straight version of Julerose. These two are just weirdly codependent to the point that Ivan's last focus episode was like... season 1?

Skip

Adrien/Chat Noir and Alya/Rena Rouge had more chemistry with each other in two episodes than Alya had with Nino in the last 5 years (Yall bout to be really mad at me)

Adrien x Nathaniel could be cute, but it's one of those things that you have to accept will never be canon or even get episodes for it. Huh, deja vu.

Adrien and Nino had more chemistry with each other than Alya had with Nino in the last 5 years. Now I'm just doing it on porpoise.

"Oh look, a boy and a girl being friends? Not in my Westboro baptist church cartoon!!! They need to be married and have 8 children now!!!" Is the vibe this ship gives.

Past this point I don't really care about kwami shipping.

The only reason these two are up here is because the darkest skin background character managed to snag some sense of relevance. Good for him.

Klance Energy: waif like and blind, child like and bitter, guant visage, smoking mirrors, you have erased yourself, you learned to hate yourself, burning on the inside, he's tried so many times to take my life away, but he'll be the first to die tonight, I promise my dear

Remember when Chloe actually cared about Adrien before Astruc retconed her to be his spin on Marie Antoinette?

I stopped shipping it after Lies and you should too. Adrien was horrible to her.

Remember when Chloe actually cared about Sabrina before Astruc retconed her to not care about Sabrina at all and then he executive producers had to rerail her character by showing that she did care about Sabrina in her final moments?

GIRL, WHY ARE YOU WITH HIM???

Dosen't exist in canon, poor man's Lukanette in fanon.

Reread the last sentence. Also, I dislike the pare the spares thing.

Just wait until I get to Dj wifi.

GIRL, WHY ARE YOU WITH HIM???

Plagg/Tiki x Adrien/Marinette would be a good ship if half of the pairing weren't Fire emblem dragon wifu's that are 7,000 years old... but that's not going to stop some of yall, is it 😞

Skip

Reylo energy: forbidden, horrifying, abusive, wtf, GIRL WHY ARE YOU WITH HIM, unlike the other names I actually do hate Reylo

I do not ship canon Lila with anyone except the devil because she belongs in Gehenna. Reread this every time she shows up.

I do not ship canon Kim with anyone except his right hand because he deserves a kick in the teeth. All of the fanfictions that made him a mean jock were basically right. Reread this everytime he shows up.

Hi! It's me! I'm the guy who wrote Nino salt, it's me! I made a fic, where Alya punches him in his teeth! He should have never stalked her and assumed she was cheating on him; He should have never revealed her cover without her consent; why dafaq is Alya even still with him?

I refuse to ship Chloe with her victims.

Again, I refuse to ship Chloe with her victims.

Chloe is too toxic to be with prince Ali (Sabrina is also toxic so it balances out).

Kagami is too good for Chloe.

Three times the charm, I refuse to ship Chloe with her victims.

Max is Ace Me being an idiot

Does anyone even care about this AU anymore?

I am a big dumb dumb that confused Asexuality with Aromanticism. Whoops.

Marinette x Max does have some chemistry in the Gamer episodes. Unfortunately, Max stopped having episodes with her for some reason, and I blame the robot.

Boring

Do these two ever talk, or...

Well apparently the writers do because we're getting a special about them.

WTF IS THIS PICTURE???

WHY IS LUKA CHOKING NATHANIEL??????

#miraculous ladybug #ml salt #miraculous ladybug salt #ml writers salt #thomas astruc salt #alya sugar #nino salt #marinette dupain cheng #adrien agreste #alya cesaire #chloe bourgeois #nino lahiffe #lila rossi #kagami tsurugi #luka couffaine #juleka couffaine #rose lavillant #max kante #le chien kim #sabrina raincomprix #gabriel salt #gabriel agreste #nathalie sancoeur #ship wars #ship wank #julerose #rolland dupain #nathaniel kurtzberg #gabenath

[starlight-vixen-emiko]

Are there any ships you hate more than the Love Square?

Oh dearest anon..... No actually!

Long post ahead!

The funniest thing in the world is...I honestly don't hate that many ships. It usually narrows down to otps, ships I like/support, ships I can get behind, and ships I am not fond of.

There are a few ships I dislike but just a few.

The loaf square however...Oh my gosh! No other ship makes me see so much red!

Like I hate the LS so much it actually made me hate other ships less...

I used to hate the Sora and Kairi ship from Kingdom Hearts but now I don't mind it...I even think it's cute at times and I reblog some of the fanart...Well ok, I wouldn't want to sit through the Sora/Kairi fanservice in Kingdom Hearts 3 and how in Chain of Memories it was constantly drilled in our heads that Kairi is the most important person to Sora (when I am being shown that the most important person to Sora is Riku)

But still...Not as bad as that one ship that shall not be named!

I used to hate the Sonic and Amy relationship in the Sonic the Hedgehog series, but I don't mind it anymore...I still ship Sonic and Amy with other characters, but I don't mind the ship and can read some fanfiction and look at fan art sometimes. And the Sonic and Amy ship actually got better with the writers fixing old problems and I am ok with it.

Well ok...If you guys seen my Tumblr you know I don't like Zvtara...But I am at least more chill about that ship because it's not canon like the L/S...I still think Zvtara is incredibly overrated, and I am sick of seeing it everywhere, but I can at least tolerate it (...For the most part ugh...).

But honestly...I have every right to hate the square. Especially considering the fact that now, Adrien is an emotional unstable white boy who is actually a sentimonster and Marinette must be the submissive Asian wife and baby him or else we will get another apocalypse similar to the one in Chat Blanc.

It's forced as all hell, the constant chorus of "theyaremadeforeachothertheyaremadeforeachother!", and I am not sure why people use the "I would choose you in a million timelines!" for them. Adrien and Marinette didn't choose each other! The world of Miraculous is stupid and thought these two looked cute together and shoved them together.

I won't even say I Iike one side more than the other. I hate all of them and that includes M*riCh*t. Why would I? I was not phased by those scenes especially since the Miraculous bible confirmed Marinette only forced herself to like Chat. It was fucking Stockholm syndrome and Astruc just made that as fanservice to keep the fandom around. I started writing Vipernette and I blorboed so hard over that ship, so much better than M////C.

Even now with that shitty finale I still say Lukanette and Adrigami would've made much better endgame ships, I miss them...But I am happy neither ship was ruined by the canon because every canon Miraculous ship sucks! But still, Luka and Kagami brought out the best in Marinette and Adrien and yet I got to see Marinette and Adrien become the worst versions of themselves.

And the biggest part is...What really clinches the LS as my most hated ship, ever! Is that I really don't care anymore that there are plenty of better written fanon versions of the ship. I. Just. Do. Not. Care! In the slightest!

This ship pisses me off so much that if I could never see this ship again, I would die happy.

It doesn't matter to me that people can write this ship better because at its very core, this ship is a misogynistic Asian fetishization ship and that gets me at a very personal level because I have dealt with Asian fetishization, and I am half Asian and half White like Marinette and the so-called representation in Miraculous was such a massive let down for someone like me.

At its very core...This is Astruc and Zag's gross romantic fantasy and no amount of fanon versions can change that to me.

Like it does not matter. The LS was always a bad ship, even in season 1. Every version and every side, it does not phase me at all, and as far as I am concerned season 5 only made the LS worse!

The day I become phased by any loaf square crap is the day Hell freezes over.

Thanks for asking. ^-^

#anti love square #love square salt #ml spoilers #ml salt #anti adrienette

[abyssal-ali]

Fic Showcase Game

Thanks for the tag @river9noble!💕💜💜❤️

Rules: Go to your published works on AO3 and list the first fic you ever published there, the last fic you published, any fic that you wrote for a fandom/ship only once, your favorite fic you wrote in the fandom/ship that has the most works, the fic you wish more people read, the fic you agonized over the most, the fic that sprang fully formed from your mind without any effort, and a work you are proud of—for whatever reason.

Oh boy~

-> First Fic Published: Ice to Meet You

Maribat, Damian Wayne x Marinette Dupain-Cheng • A short and sweet meetcute inspired by my parents' story.

-> Last Fic Published: There Is Just No Stopping This Thing Called Love

(I'm not counting my half-a-fic JaySteph dating alphabet headcanons)

DC, Jason Todd x Stephanie Brown • It's a Gotham by Gaslight AU I wrote in about two days (JaySteph really gets my fingers flying across the keys😆) that I'm pretty proud of. I did a lot more research than I thought I would because I'm a perfectionist who wanted historical accuracy.

-> Fic I Wrote for a Ship/Fandom Once: Hard Right to Greece

MLB, Luka Couffaine x Marinette Dupain-Cheng • This was a co-write, but so far it's my only Lukanette/MLB-only work. It was my first collab fic and I really enjoyed the process. My co-authors (who I'm sure did most of the writing) were lovely and it was a great experience overall. (Check out the lukanette server hosted by @/quickspinner). Road trip plus mutual pining? What's not to like??

-> Favourite Fic Written In My Largest Fandom: toss-up between Burned my Wings and The Best Bat(?)

DC, Gen • Can you tell I like hurting my already traumatized blorbo? I enjoy exploring character's reactions to what Jason has been through, because we all know DC is a coward.

-> Fic I Wish More People Read: Rival Mob Boss Jasonette Series

Maribat, Jason Todd x Marinette Dupain-Cheng • I don't go into my stats expecting large numbers so I don't get the no-dopamine crash. That said, I did think the series would be more popular.

-> Fic I Most Agonized Over: Hmmmmm maybe The Very First Night?

Maribat, Jason Todd x Marinette Dupain-Cheng • The agonizing is usually over getting the motivation to write than struggling what to write. I tried a new writing style in it (non-linear narration), so I was unsure how it would turn out. I'm happy with the end result, though.

-> Fic Sprung Forth Fully Formed With No Effort: Long Live all the Magic We Made

Maribat, Jason Todd x Marinette Dupain-Cheng • I had been plotting a bit more of this fic every tike I listened to Long Live, so by the time I sat down to write it, it only took 2 or 3 days.

-> Fic I'm Proudest Of: Invisible String or Stars Around My Scars

IS: Maribat, Damian Wayne x Marinette Dupain-Cheng • My first songfic and probably my longest fic (only about half is posted; the epilogue is as long as the main work😆). I got some absolutely lively comments that I will forever cherish, which makes me proud that people liked what I wrote so much.

SAYS: Maribat, Jason Todd x Marinette Dupain-Cheng • This was originally a short 2k fic I wrote to get out of my head. A couple years later, I dusted it off and polished it up, and then the ideas wouldn't stop flowing (I still have several outtakes and bonus scenes to write & post). I'm proud of myself for sticking to it (it was my longest fic on ao3 for a while) and not rushing it when the dopamine high faded. I think it's a testament to my improved writing skills and it's special to me, as it was my first long fic for the Maribat Fandom that I posted. I also became close to the absolute love of my life @sarcasticbambi, who was my beta for the fic and gave me some lovely, absolutely heartwarming and forever-remembering-worthy compliments that really boosted my confidence in my writing.

No-pressure tagging @boldlyanxious @velveteenshadow @wildbookcat @the-coffee-fandom and anyone who wants to play, consider yourself tagged!💜💜

#Ao3 #Writing game #ali answers #Fic recs #Self promo

[keentrigger]

I feel like I'm being forced to either be completely in love with the show or completely hate it, with no nuance or the possibility that my feelings are somewhere in-between.

Miraculous is not perfect. It's also not the worst written show ever made. I do think that some of the things that have happened in the show were done without thinking out the consequences of those decisions, I think Thomas is incredibly tone-deaf sometimes about things he doesn't really understand, but I also think that some things in the season finale are specifically setting up future threads and people are overreacting over implications and "redemptions".

I don't particularly like Gabriel's "redemption", because it feels like an attempt to show that gaslighting is okay. And it feels weird to put it as the season finale because some people are never going to see that thread realized, for the walls to come crashing down, and are going to get left with the idea that "Miraculous tells the wrong lesson". It really feels like something that should've happened before the finale and then the finale is what shattered the illusion.

I don't like how they set up rival ships to the love square and then essentially wrote them out five minutes later. I don't like how Luka went from being one of the characters with the most potential to influence how the story went to essentially being boxed because the writers couldn't find ways to make him knowing who Ladybug and Chat Noir actually useful in the story (other than showing him give up his entire life to go train to be a Guardian which btw makes him probably the most selfless person in the entire fucking galaxy).

But I do still like the show. I wouldn't still be here if I didn't, I wouldn't be so hyperfixated on the show's characters or relationships or story to complain about the parts I don't like if I didn't feel so sucked in by the rest of it. I have dropped other shows for far less.

I prefer Lukanette over Lovesquare, but I don't hate the Lovesquare and I also still like Adrien as a character. That opinion by itself has caused more people to shun me than literally any other opinion I've ever had about a show, and it's just... why?

#keen (keeps) venting #ml fandom salt #ml spoilers #ml s5 spoilers #ml salt #that feel when you don't want anyone to see this but you have to tag it with everything so people can filter it out

[madamefeu]

hi I have a couple things I would like to ask

I know your feelings on fruits basket are quite negative by looking through you blog ( completely valid not judging) But I am curious as to what you did like about it? And aside from not giving Akito a redemption arc what else would you have liked to see changed?

Concerning miraculous what are your thoughts on ships like the love square ,lukanette, kagaminette, adrinino, lukadrien and alyanette?

And if you could make any changes to that show what would they be?

Side note you are absolutely right about Andre the ice-cream man he is insanely creepy, he is a grown adult and yet he acts like a bratty kid throwing a tantrum when things don't go his way. Such an unnecessary character.

Thank you for reading.

When I watched Fruits Basket as a teenager, I really liked the found family aspect of the show, and seeing how Tohru bonded with Yuki and Kyo. Things went to shit when it steadily became clear that Tohru was going to become the Sohma family’s therapist, and that instead of going to therapy, or addressing any of the issues that the main characters had, they all magically got better after a couple of pep talks from her. I also hated the fact that all of the characters were paired up, usually with other members of their own family, as it left no room to the imagination for shipping. The heavy levels of incest within the family are disgusting as is, but the story of Tohru’s parents was somehow even worse. Why is almost every parent in Fruits Basket horrible? The fuck kind of parents would kick their fifteen year old daughter out into the arms of a grown man who claimed to want to marry her? And the worst part is, we’re expected to think that this inappropriate relationship between a fifteen year old and a grown man in his late twenties is not only acceptable, but also romantic, and it’s treated like ‘true love’. NO. Katsuya Honda was a CHILD RAPIST. Statutory rape is still rape. The entire show deserves to be shoved into a trash compactor. Nothing can save it. Nothing can redeem it. Nothing.

As for miraculous, I hate the love square because I hate the way Marinette treats Adrien, and I hate the fact that Adrien is reduced to being her emotional support pet. Adrien’s ‘nice guy’ behaviour when he’s Chat Noir is also disgusting. To be honest, I don’t really like any of the main ships, or anything involving Alya and Nino. None of them interest me, and none of them have any meaningful development or impact. It frustrates me because the show started out with so much potential, but it’s now gone to shit. Chloe deserved a redemption arc, Zoe shouldn’t exist, Marinette should be less of a Mary Sue, and Adrien should be his own dang person, and not reduced to Marinette’s sidekick/emotional support pet.

Man this went on longer than I anticipated but I hope that answers your questions lol

#anti adrienette #anti akito #fruits basket is fundamentally problematic for this reason #fruits basket #miraculous ladybug #miraculous ladybug salt #chloe bourgeois #anti Zoe #chloe deserves better #ask #anon ask

[lovebugs-and-snakecharmers]

LBSC Lukanette MerMay 2023

Lukanette MerMay officially begins today! 

You may do as many or as few prompts as you like, in any order. No word limits or time limits! The event will run throughout the month of May. Be sure to tag @lovebugs-and-snakecharmers so we can reblog your work! Rules are at the bottom of this post below the cut. You’re welcome to join our discord server to chat and share your WIPs, or just for some encouragement!

If you post to tumblr please tag @lovebugs-and-snakecharmers so we can reblog.

If you use AO3 you are welcome to add your work to our collection for this event.

You may participate on any platform, but please leave a link either in our ask box or on our discord server so we can make sure to include you in our event summary post!

1. Pirate/Mermaid

The kind mermaid/merman that likes to explore on their own has a deserted island they like to visit. One day, a pirate on the run takes haven there. They don't look as menacing as the rumors say though

Pirate capitan luka having a mermaid wife, she always follow his ship and luka had a tank on his room for when she spend the night, also mermaid marinette is fascinated by clothes, Luka had an storage space for all the clothes she like

2. Accidental/Involuntary Transformation

Luka is turned into a merman to save him from drowning, and the smitten Marinette shows him his new underwater home. (Or vice-versa.)

If you wish upon a shooting star it becomes a mermaid/merman if it lands in the sea....

luka and marinette (two mermaids) accidentally get turned human after messing with some magic. chaos ensues while they attempt to blend in with other human beings.

The kwami powerup for water turns ladybug into a mermaid

H20: Just Add Water AU

3. Sirens

"You had earplugs in! Why did you steer straight for the Siren's Rocks??" "Did you see how blue the siren's eyes were?"

Siren decides this sailor is too cute to kill

4. Songs of the Sea

Luka the "drowned one" plays the guitar underwater (apparently that's a thing you can do) to a group of fascinated deep sea mermaids

"Where on earth did you get to last night?" "I heard the mermaids singing." “That's your excuse every time you disappear.... Oh my god, that really is a mermaid!"

On a deep sea mission to collect whalesong (for an album project?), there's something else down there with them, and it's singing back.

Human luka and mermaid marinette singing a duet

5. Culture Clash

Mermaids have a very specific ritual for finding the (shell, rock, trinket. Etc) to propose with

Mermaids like shiny things

Mermaid clan wars

Merfolk dragging their s/o underwater for a quick kiss 

Merfolk can change at will, but their hands are cold regardless of their current form.

Mermaid in a sushi restaurant

6. Atlantean Miracle Box 7. Sea Witch 8. Selkies 9. Not Your Typical Mermaid

Luminescent Mermaids (different colors represent different clans/pods/locations/elements)

Octopus mermaid 

Deep sea mermaid 

Seashorse mermaid

Kraken mermaid

Shark Mermaids

10. Mermaids of Unusual Size 11. The Hunted  12. Curiosity Killed the Catfish

Marinette the mermaid excitedly asks Luka questions about the human trinkets she found. 

Watching (and crushing on)  the other from afar

13. Human/Mermaid

Human luka and mermaid marinette singing a duet

Mermaids had soulmates, everyone knew that. Humans had soulmates, or at least the legends said they did. Nobody had ever heard of a mermaid/merman and a human being soulmates before. But the proof was right there as your (whatever sign of a soulmate you want to use) showed the human was your soulmate.

Luka brings Mermaid Mari to a costume party

Mermaids and human work together to save the oceans

Rescue the human from drowning

14. In the depths

Abyss AU: underwater research team finds more than they anticipated

Deep sea mermaid 

15. Mermaid Hanahaki

you start losing your scales and then the ability to breathe underwater and will get stuck as a human if your love goes unrequited for too long

16. Dragon/Mermaid

RULES

This is a Lukanette blog and a Lukanette event. Some form of Lukanette must be included. Romantic, platonic, pre-relationship, even breakup fics are fine, as long as no other ships involving Luka or Marinette are included, except as past relationships. The decision about what qualifies for reblog rests solely with the LBSC moderators. If a piece hasn’t been reblogged within a couple of days, either the mods felt the piece didn’t meet the criteria or it was simply missed; you are welcome to reach out in the asks to inquire which. 

NSFW entries are permitted but characters must be of age and content must be properly rated and tagged. 

Posts that don’t follow these guidelines will not be reblogged. 

#event: lbsc lukanette mermay #lukanette #luka couffaine #marinette dupain cheng #endgame lukanette #lukanette endgame #pro lukamari

[airi-p4]

If you owned miraculous what would you remove and add to the show

Personally i'd remove:

Remove the LS

Because it serves no real purpose to the show

Adrien agreste

He's only there because (If my memory is correct), Astruc said that, Adrien has to be in every single episode so that the the audience won't forget him which just means that he doesn't have any purpose in the show other than just being there.

Zoe Lee

It's so fucking obvious that she's just a cheap replacement of Chloe who just came out of nowhere just to take away Chloe's Life. She's basically a goddess of Mary sues at this point because she:

Already got a miraculous on her second day of Living in Paris.

Literally became friends with everyone on the first day.

She's literally Underdeveloped.

She has a Vague back story.

She literally became Daddy's favourite on the first day.

I wanna list more but u already get the point.

Now here's the things i'm gonna add

Basically all the ships that only involve Luka and Marinette. (u already know all of them)

Imagine If the LS wasn't about Adrien and Mari but Luka and Mari. I mean like:

Marichat X, Ladrien X , Adrienette X , Ladynoir X

Vipernette = 💙, Lukabug =💙, Lukanette= 💙, Viperbug= 💙.

(Don't worry about all the other Luka and Mari Ships like Vipermouse, I'll also make it canon)

2. Giving Chloe a redemption arc.

Chloe is a 14 year old broken girl who deserves to be redeemed, I've seen way worse and Chloe is nowhere near that Level of Evil. I don't know what Astruc means by "ShE dOeSn'T wAnT tO cHaNgE" She does want to change if u let her.

3. Making Julerose ships canon.

I'm too lazy too explain

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What would you remove.

Hi anon!

Canon wise: - I think Adrien/Chat had the potential, but the writers wasted it to the point they made me dislike hate his character. (So yes, he's useless in canon- I can't deny that) -I think the LS concept is good, but I don't like how it's been developed in canon. The potential was here, but now it's all cringe to me. Not needed either. - And Zoe? She isn't really needed, true, but I'm kinda neutral about her. -Chloe should be redeemable imo, too - she showed she was willing to become a better person and I think that cutting that character development down was mean specially with what they did with Gabriel and adults in general in the show. Now, canon means nothing to me anymore, so I'm taking these ideas you would add as fanon. -Chloe redemption? YES! It would take time, sure, but I'm sure she would make it. (I like her both as a "villain" and as a "friend"- frienemy?) -Lukanette love square? NGL- I want stories with every side of them. I'm greedy. I can't never get enough of them. I LOVE THEM. Still- I have to admit that I'm a bit wary because of what canon did with their main LS, but I'm sure it can be done better if it's Lukanette (Luka/Viperion would always be respectful to Marinette/Ladybug so that's already a better start). -JuleRose canon? ABSOLUTELY YES!

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I'm going to post a notice now, but I'm saying it here as well:

I don't care about canon anymore, so I don't think I want to answer to more canon related asks from now on. (You can still send them, but I'm probably not going to answer them)

Thank you for your understanding.

Have a good day!

#airi answers #airi notice