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this is the funniest thing i’ve ever seen on atla twitter
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oceanichymns · 3 months
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Excited to share one of my illustrations for @recovery-zine !
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"Don't mess my hair up, dum-dum."
"I don't think I can do any worse than you did."
I wanted a tender moment between Azula and Zuko where he cuts her hair. Since touching hair is important, no one else can do it. She'll only let her stupid brother fix her bangs. It sets off the beginning of her healing.
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lazyveran · 11 days
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my favourite azula redemption arc is just azula chanting "im going to kill him later im going to usurp and kill him later just wait im going to kill zuzu in a moment" over and over and then just. never getting around to it. yeah girl you defo will kill zuko. its been four years and you've been helping him rule. totally part of the murder plan.
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the-stranger-artist · 11 months
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Aang: The path to inner peace begins with four words...
Azula: "Not my fucking problem"
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crybabylulu · 2 months
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UNCLE IROH HAS SPOKEN! (This tweet is old stfu I forgot I had this!) HE SAID AZULA DESERVES REDEMPTION! HE HAS SPOKEN!
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zeke-best · 1 year
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no make up azula looks exactly like zuko
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longing-for-rain · 3 months
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I really like the idea that a big reason why Iroh seems to resent Azula in Book 2 is not because she’s different from him, but because of how similar they are.
I think Iroh was likely very similar in terms of his ambition and dedication to serving his father in his Dragon of the West days, and it probably disturbs him to see those traits in Azula. It’s a reflection of his former self that he’s trying to run away from.
Meanwhile I honestly don’t think Iroh and Zuko have a lot in common personality wise. I think Iroh is attached to Zuko because he’s afraid of failing him like he believes he failed Lu Ten. After Lu Ten’s death, Iroh’s ambition shifts to fixing his past mistakes and one aspect is saving Zuko like he couldn’t save his own son.
Not getting my hopes up that the comics will actually explore this, but I think detangling this complicated dynamic between these three characters would be important in Azula’s journey towards healing.
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sulkybender · 5 months
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I feel like this is a lot of the "Azula redemption arcs" I've seen in fanfic. Which... is interesting to say the least. I think in part it comes from difficulty imagining what she could be like without her cruelty.
I'm all for Azula redemption, but it isn't really redemption if she's hanging around the Gaang now saying things like, "Oh Zuzu, you don't have to get so touchy about the time I fried you. Always so dramatic." That's not really understanding or acknowledging harm.
Also, frankly, it stresses me out. The idea of hanging out with someone who's just callous about your feelings and physical pain and unapologetic about the harm she's caused... That misunderstands what it means to have a redemption arc.
You can feel kindness and remorse without requiring a whole personality transplant. It doesn't betray Azula's personhood to write her that way.
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samtamdan · 26 days
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Azula: *sneaking in through their window*
Ursa: *turning in their chair and flicking the light on* You want to tell me where you've been all night?
Azula: I was with Ty Lee?
Ty Lee: *turning in their chair* Wanna try again?
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circlique · 1 year
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A commission I did over the weekend of redemption!Azula and Suki! It was fun imagining what a redeemed Azula would be like!
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stardust948 · 8 months
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Are you telling me we could have gotten possible Zutara, Azula redemption arc, AND a backstory about Lu Ten's death being caused by Koh in Book 4?
But it was all canceled for that God-awful live action movie?!?!
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phoukanamedpookie · 1 month
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Serious question: Why is it that so many people assume that Azula must give up her ambition in order to heal or evolve?
Why is Azula's ambition deemed a corrupting influence while male characters are allowed to have big dreams and go after them?
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Fire Lord Azula marrying Waterbending Master Katara, daughter of the Chief of the Southern Water Tribe.
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hello-nichya-here · 3 months
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Azula's mommy issues how it does (and doesn't) affect her personality and theoretical redemption
Ah, Ursa and how she ties into a possible Azula redemption. I recommend you get a snack and some water, because this answer is gonna be a long one XD
Before we even get to the dynamic between these two characters and how it informed Azula's actions, let's remember THE main thing that is responsible for Azula being the way she is: Indoctrination.
Her nation had been waging war against the rest of the world for 100 hundred years. Azula is 14. For 86 years her family had been telling everyone, including themselves, that the war was just, it was for the good of the world and of the Fire Nation, it was "sharing their glory", it was just them taking over land that was rightfully theirs because of "divine right to rule" (something Azula herself says to Lu Fang when she's taking over Ba Sing Se).
We see children cheering for a puppet version of Fire Lord Ozai in a festival, as he defeats an "evil" Earth Kingdom general. We are explicitly shown that Fire Nation schools lie about things like the Air Nomads, a pacifist culture, having an ARMY that Sozin's men attacked, framing it more as a mutual conflict between equals in which the Fire Nation won, instead of a sudden attack against an entire group of people that were just minding their business.
We see IROH write a letter about how he hopes his family can see Ba Sing Se IF THEY DON'T HAVE TO BURN IT TO THE GROUND to conquer it - and not only do Zuko and Azula both laugh, URSA is also laughing.
Azula was raised to believe her nation had every right to do all the attrocities it commited. And just like Zuko, she is still a teenager, not an adult like her dad, uncle or mom - and while they had less excuse than the Fire Siblings for not knowing any better since they were already grown, they do still have more excuse than Azulon and especially Sozin, since they were ALSO raised to believe that stuff was perfectly normal.
Even if Ursa had been a perfect mom, Azula would likely still be a villain, though maybe less bitter and insecure over feeling unworthy of love (but that would not disappear completely, since Ozai was still an abusive dad that very clearly expected perfection from his children at all times, which is way too much pressure to put on anyone, let alone on two kids. And since she was his favorite, she'd obviously try to copy him, so she wouldn't end up like Zuko, so her more cruel, ruthless side would also be very present).
HOWEVER, that does not change the fact that Ursa's flawed parenting had a deep impact on her daughter.
For starters, even the creators/showrunners and writers of the show have said Zuko is her favorite child - and a parent playing favorites is NEVER good, even if they don't downright abuse the one they don't like as much. And for a kid that is in an abusive home, seeing her brother be treated as completely worthless because he is not the favorite, it isn't that hard to understand how Azula concluded that, if her mom didn't like her as much as she liked Zuko, it's because she didn't like her AT ALL. Add in Ursa's concern over Ozai's influence over Azula and how it's shaping her personality, plus the fact that she said "What's wrong with that child?" WITH AZULA IN THE ROOM, and we have the source of her belief her mom didn't just dislike her, but also saw her as monster.
Because yeah, let's not forget Azula had TWO parents. Two parents that clearly wanted very different things from their children. Ursa was cool with all the imperialism stuff, but she was horrified at the thought of the family being at war with itself, fighting for the crown. She was a bad guy, but she had standards. Meanwhile Ozai was clearly on team "stab everyone in the back to get what you want, then rule by fear." Once her mom was out of the picture, Azula naturally felt like her dad had essentially proven his method was better, since he ended up getting everything he wanted (though Azula does question that in the finale, when she imagines Ursa of all people trying to make her see trying to use fear to force people into supporting/loving her would only further isolate her, showing some part of her DID internalize a point of view that did not align with Ozai's).
But even before Ursa was forced to disappear from her daughter's life, she was already failing to connect with her, but not solely because of Ozai. Think about it. We see lots of scenes of Ursa spending time just with Zuko, and some of her with both of her kids - but never do we get even a single scene just between her and Azula.
When Zuko immitates Azula's bad behavior (because he thought it was cool and funny) and throws bread (not a rock like the fandom insists, BREAD) at the turtleducks, Ursa is visibly shocked and distressed, but she EXPLAINS to Zuko why what he did was wrong (it hurt the baby turtleduck, and thus made the mother mad) in a VERY light-hearted way that he clearly remembers fondly. When Azula says things about Azulon being likely to die soon or Iroh being pathetic, Ursa is shocked and distressed - and either just says "Azula, we don't speak like that" or a very angry "Young lady, not another word" but without ever trying to explain to her why what she did was wrong.
Meanwhile, ZUKO actually says things like "How would you like it if Lu Ten wanted dad to die?" or explaining that Iroh gave up on conquering Ba Sing Se out of grief for his only child. Those two scenes were the CLOSEST Azula got to having someone actually try to explain things to her in a way she could understand - but obviously she's not gonna take her brother as seriously as she would an adult, and Zuko has his own stuff to deal with so he can't step up and be a replacement parent to her like Iroh was to him (and considering how young he was at the time, expecting him to do so would be unreasonable - hell, he likely didn't even notice just how badly Azula needed help until she had her breakdown).
Things get worse if we take the comics as canon (which I don't, but I know a lot of people do). On that version of the story, Ursa goes from "Making effort, but screwed up along the way" to "Neglectful/abusive piece of shit that should have her kids taken away."
Comics!Ursa's idea fo "quality time with her kids" involves talking solely to Zuko and ignoring Azula, instead of interacting with both of them. She doesn't encourage them to spend time with each other like she did in the show. When she is banished, she visits both her kids - but only wakes Zuko up. He gets a sweet farewell so he always gets to remember that, no matter what happened, his mom loved him and did not want to leave him. Azula doesn't get a single word, and is left to believe her mom didn't even bother with her.
Worse of all, Ursa CHOOSES TO FORGET HER OWN KIDS. After she had explicitly said she does not believe they are truly safe living with Ozai. After she explicitly said to Zuko "Never forget who you are." Not to mention, she writes a letter with the fake claim that Zuko is actually NOT Ozai's kid - because she knows he will read it and get mad. She risked putting her son in danger just to piss off her husband. That's what she did to the kid she LIKED. How low would she go if the kid in danger was the kid she didn't care for? Oh, wait the comics answer that too. She never bothered asking ANYTHING about what had happened to her all those years (nor to the kid with a scar on his face, mind you), showed more empathy towards her when she COULDN'T remember who she was (and even then it was just a "If I really am your mom, I'm sorry I didn't love you enough." That's it. That's all Azula gets), and she doesn't do ANYTHING about Azula running away. No asking Zuko or someone else to find her, no crying about losing her again, no indication that she is worried about her safety even though she is all alone and mentally unstable.
The comics really did Azula dirty, and I HATE Ursa in it. It reached the point of "I don't want these two to make up, I want Azula to give a whole speech about how much her mom sucks, just like Zuko did with Ozai" because that's what she deserves. Show!Ursa made mistakes, Comics!Ursa IS a mistake. The sympathy for Azula despite her bad actions grows significantly on that version of the story, because how the fuck can we speak her to not be so mad at the world after all that?
But at last, we need to make an important distinction clear here: It doesn't matter if we are talking about the comics or the show, if we like or dislike Azula, if we do or don't want her to be redeemed, the simple fact still is that she WAS screwed over her entire life, her troubled relationship with her mom had a deep and longlasting impact on her mental health, and there was no way in hell she would have EVER been an innocent little angel that is 100% against everything her evil father does. It's just impossible considering her backstory.
And there is a very clear double-standard in how people talk about the idea of a redeemed Azula VS the reality of a redeemed Zuko. Both start with the premise of "This bad guy has understandable, sympathetic reasons to do bad things, since they were indoctrinated from birth and had a terrible family life", both include the character having to see how their actions are hurting them AND others (including those they care about, Zuko's "victim" being Iroh, while Azula's are Mai and Ty Lee. Plus, they've both hurt each other in some ways, some more deliberate than others), and both culminate with the character turning their life around, confronting those who wronged them, and finding a support system for themselves.
Yet one is treated as revolutionary despite not being the first redemption arc ever (nor the only redemption arc in the story itself), nor being perfectly written (because perfect writting doesn't exist), while the other is labelled as lazy, out of character, or "making excuses" for bad people just because they had a tough life (like Azula is an actual person). There is no thematic or moral difference between redeeming Zuko and redeeming Azula, especially in a show that says "EVERYONE has the potential for great good and great evil" and ends with Zuko telling his abuser he hopes he'll also have a change of heart someday, even if he is not sticking around to witness or actively try to make it happen.
Redeeming Azula is no different than redeeming Zuko. It's perfectly fine to want to just one of these things instead of both, but it is NOT a superior choice in anyway, and it's very hypocritical of the same fandom that criticizes the idea of a redeemed Azula because "mommy issues isn't a good enough reson" when they can't stop praising the redemption arc that has "the villain had daddy issues" as it's core premisse. Personal preference is one thing. Being a dick about it is another.
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unfortunately-rogi · 1 year
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This wasn’t originally meant to be so angsty I swear… I don’t know what happened
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