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absolutebl · 2 years

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First, I love all your reviews and recommendations but now my list of watched shows is getting too long and I need to organise them. Can you please give me more information on how you set up your spreadsheet. I have name, country, year, number of episodes, run time, my rating, what else should I include? Please help me organise this BL list nightmare.

BL Tracking!

OMG you're so cute. And I am SO SORRY.

The spreadsheet of doom has columns for the following:

code - that’s a short search code for me personally so I can find screen caps stored on my hd, but also the one you see @heretherebedork and I (in particular) using as shorthand when we chat, e.g. UWMA & FUTS.

MDL - whether the show is on My Drama List or not (Y, N, na, and R) na = Vietnam & Cambodia, R = I reviewed it. (I also use MDL as a kind of back up and because I track all the other Asian dramas I watch there, although I don’t rate the het stuff) - you probubly don’t need this one if you don’t watch VBL or use MDL. I’m considering deleting this column since it’s redundant.

year - generally the year the show is given on MDL (release year, rather than completed year), which conflicts with when I post and talk about shows - i.e. Bad Buddy I consider a 2022 show (when it ended), MDL lists it as 2021 (when it started)

title - generally the one we talk about it here (as opposed to whatever MDL or Viki decides on)

subtitle (or alternate title) - the other one

origin - who produced it, I pick the dominant language for those co-produced, so Korea got Peach of Time, Taiwan got Because of You, Thailand got Present Perfect (there are so few of these I keep track of them in a post rather then on the spreadsheet)

rating - in my case, out of 10, i dislike an out of 5 rating system

apx hrs - so this is my best guess at the finished hour total FRESH content for each series, since (for me) length of treatment is important to track when answering wave data and exponential growth questions

length - this is the column needed to calculate the previous one, so it’s: number of episodes X length of episode - average % of credits/recaps/stingers sponsors (usually around 22%)

main trope - so like the major romance trope foundation of the story, enemies to lovers etc...

sub trope - cohabitation, paranormal, etc...

setting - home, office, r&b (restaurant & beverage), university, high school, historical

pair tone - pining, crush, soft, hard, etc...

main pair - grumpy/sunshine, sunshine/tsundere etc... AKA archetypes in play

couple - the names of the two lead characters

heat - rated from 0-3

kiss - graded from 1-10

sub paring - side dishes

sub pairing couple - names of the side dishes

kiss - the side couple’s rating

source - which platform is hosting the show

link - to that show at it’s current source (that I know of)

MDL - a link to the show on My Drama List

R - whether I personally have digital hard copy or not, and whether I want to

trigger - any notes I have about traumatic elements

pitch - my short paragraph summation, if I wrote one

review link - a link to my review on tumblr

more - anything I don’t have a column for

Things I wish I included from the start!

DATE I FINISHED WATCHING IT - because I didn't track this I failed to track my own taste and journey through the genre (MDL tracks this for me, now, but I didn’t have an MDL account at the start)

actor couple/ship name - like OffGun etc... only recently has become necessary since prior to this they had maxed out at 3

language or caption/translation notes/links etc... - this would mostly be for the Thai stuff for me, but like there’s a great convo about the language used in DNA on one of my blog posts right now and I wish I had a place to store that info

directors - specifically because of Vietnamese BL, otherwise MDL mostly tracks this so not necessarily except for sorting reasons

native language title - as in, in the script of the country of origin, or in the case of Japan YET ANOTHER title (I could also use this column to track things like MAMEverse, or Japan’s linked movies) - again MDL has this info

adaptation - if it was from a manga, manwha, or y-novel and who wrote it - MDL has this info tho

OTS - not me, but you might want to consider this since it’s a popular topic, if you happen to be into the audio side of BL tracking the MV of the theme songs might be useful

Production house/studio - used to be there were so few it didn’t matter what their records was, now it does

My memory is SO SO bad ya’ll. Now the spreadsheet acts as a brain back up devise too.

I also color code:

blue for ones I am going to try to get hold of hc,

red for ones in progress (currently airing),

grey for short works (anything that’s fh total is under 45min).

pink for ones I just can not find

So my spreadsheet was designed originally for tracking wave data, hence my prioritized intersted in calculating length and run times of fresh content, then I evolved it to be a review tracking system. But that wasn’t how it started. So it’s messier and less comprehensive than I’d like for its current use. (But honestly, that’s the nature of ALL long running data sets.)

But at 400+ is now too large for me to modify from memory, and 80% of BL I never want to watch again, so it takes a lot to add a new column now.

Tabs

I also have a tab where I track my rating system.

And a tab where I track my tumblr posts and reviews and such. I started doing that because I am terrible at tagging (and tumblr keeps shadow banning tags and I can never remember which ones are “safe”) so I just could never find anything in my own blog. I needed to do this because people would ask the same question here.

Speaking of which, I’ve actually answered this question before. But I didn’t track it, to my shame.

When I do this:

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at the bottom of a post it means I am tracking that post for reuse/update.

Other tabs that might have been useful

A tracking tab for announced/never made BLs with notes and sources of information. Or for the “coming next year” BLs.

Currently I keep this info as part of my big end of year summation post as a draft here on this platform, but I’m petrified Tumblr will delete that or otherwise crash. It’s a MONSTER post while it’s in progress.

#asked and answered #spreadsheet of doom #bl spreadsheet #tracking system #just bl stuff #thai bl #asian bl #drama tracking

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loveable-sea-lemon · 7 months

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finally acknowledging that this will never be 'done' so here you go lads: spreadsheet of my favorite fanfics 😌

#fanfic #jupe being normal #bl brainworms #kinnporsche #kpts #og posting #spreadsheet #vegaspete

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simp4katsuki · 6 months

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Keeping my hyperfixations inside. clamp down on them like a caged animal so they don’t know I’m completely batshit deranged

#bakudeku #destiel #satosugu #I was referred to as a bl girl the other day #you know when something just clicks and you’re like yes I am that #it was one of those moments #I color code my excel spreadsheets at work according to these 3 ships and nobody is the wiser

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killiru · 1 year

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Very late 2022 ranking - and it's a little bit dumb

I fell into a bit of a swamp this year and that swamp is Thai BLs. So I made a little rating list of the shows I've seen in 2022 (completely) because I have an obsessive need to make Excel spreadsheets. This is all just a personal, not particularly thoughtful list, of course. I'm super curious what others' 2022 rankings would look like, though, so feel free to let me know!!

(Yeah I know its late and nearly february. Ups.)

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glamgoblin · 5 months

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BL WRAPPED 2023

(for Snowy @glamgoblin )

you watched 14 bls this year. that's about 126 hours!

you primarily watched bls from Thailand. 🇹🇭

you spent way too much time thInking about these characters: Vegas (Kinnporsche), Phayu (Love in the Air), Boston (Only Friends) and Win (Between Us, UWMA).

your favorite show was Love in the Air you kept thinking about it all year.

your overall bl mood was Ooh Girlie, Have you ever even Thought About Being Okay? (No Version) .

you read the most fanfiction about VegasPete (and TimeTay) like way too much.

another of your favorites from this year was Our Dating Sim. they captivated your gay little heart.

the soundtracks you listened to the most were Color Rush and Until We Meet Again. it made you feel really normal.

your favorite acting pair was FirstKhao. there was just something so mesmerizing about them...

here's to another year!!

invite friends to share theirs: tagging (only if you want obvs) @wintercrushes @virtualbearfox @disaster-j @ella-norah and @bluesuitdaze and anyone who sees this and do it! 🫶🏻

Copy and paste version of this: here

Ty @loveable-sea-lemon for tagging me!!

#omg this is sooo cute!!!!!#ty for the tag!#this also reminded me to check my bl spreadsheet so ty again #tag games #bl wrapped 2023

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theedorksinlove · 9 months

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omg yay you’ve been watching bls!!!! what have you watched so far???

YASSSS they're so good i'm having a blast !!! i saw a trusted mutual posting about kinnporsche a few weeks ago and i was bored so i went huh okay i'll give this a go and i was entertained from start to finish so then i started to have a look what else there was so now i've also watched love in the air, not me, bad buddy, and the first ep of only friends !!

#i also have a spreadsheet of bls to watch now too 😭 there's so many i couldn't keep track #they're so entertaining i'm truly having a ball in this bitch #*asks #laura tag

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gillianthecat · 11 months

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Also tonight I dealt with some fandom feelings which unexpectedly reared their head by looking up BL show popularity rankings on MDL, which then turned into entering everything into a spreadsheet.* Which I may turn into graphs and charts and lists sometime and share here. Or at least make the spreadsheet available to anyone else who wants the data in sortable form.

*twice, it turns out. First I did half of it by hand, and only then did I figure out a way to copy and paste, so I started all over again. Which was probably faster, and definitely less room for typos, although it involved a bunch of excel tricks to convert it into a useable form.

I don't know how representative of the general BL fandom MDL is, but it's for sure larger than tumblr, and also offers up actual data of some sort. My assumption is that it's primarily international fans? And probably English speaking fans are way overrepresented? Are there another places out there to get data about what's being watched/what's popular?

#spreadsheets!#in my data nerd era #i now know slightly more about excel than i did six hours ago #i still need to figure out how to/if i can make the graphs I want with it #bl fandom #ql data #probably i'm reinventing the wheel but oh well #if i knew coding there would probably be a way to import the numbers directly. and keep updating them.#but alas i do not

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clara-maybe-ontheroad · 1 year

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Current to watch list

Because I've seen someone else do it and that's as good of an introduction as any :

Currently watching : GAP The Series, The Office season 2, Dark season 3, RuPaul's Drag Race season 15

Rewatching : The Untamed, Not Me, Love in the Air, Nirvana in Fire, Gilmore Girls

Movies recently watched : Babylon (3***), Tár (2**), The Banshees of Inisherin (4****), The Menu (4***)

To watch list : The Knock out (狂飙), Love Between Fairy and Devil, Derry Girls season 3, Heartstopper, Return to Dust, La plus belle pour aller danser

#watch doesn't even feel like a real word anymore #i usually track these on an excel spreadsheet #yes I had never watched the office before #gap the series #watchlist #bl shows #gl shows #chinese drama

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rocketturtle4 · 2 months

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City of Stars is starting to drive me a little crazy…anyone else??

Okay so I have no idea how many people are watching this show but this weeks ep (#6) cemented for me that this show is intentionally playing with us, the BL audience, and our expectations of BL.

We have been presented and consistently shown mature, down to earth characters who express their emotions, communicate, help each other, mess with each other, and basically act like rational adults.

And yet this week for a full 2 minutes, I fully believed Krom had taken one look at the strange man in Fueangs bedroom and run straight back home with his mother’s caution echoing inside his head.

But he didn’t and Feaung explained and later we even got Krom being UP FRONT about his insecurities!!

I felt a bit like a new faen being put through trust exercises by my too good to be a true lover.

This was the most extreme example but it’s done it in a ton of other ways too, just in this ep we had things including

Ooops sent the wrong clip, will the friends explode and ruin the relationship

Will Feaung be mad that the friends know

Oh the parents know, now what??

Unequal understanding of the date! Now what?

You know how many of these caused explosions? NONE

Last week we had “Feungs big secret” as a driving force for concern but the show turned that on it’s head too!

And it did it by making fun of everyone being able to sing

This show is picking up the BL tropes, the BL mold and showing it to us like: THIS? This is what you’ve been dealing with in the past? And don’t get me wrong, I have a spreadsheet that just hit 165 BLs to very much prove I like the model.

But this show

This show is taking a trope and making it real,

or making fun of it,

or both.

Have I lost you?

That guitar scene at the end was a great example, Thai BL boys seem to take guitars wherever they go and pull them out at the drop of a hat. This show:

Made fun of that trope by making Fueang bad at singing

Added depth to that trope by making it a result of childhood trauma

Threw in some communication

And voila a guitar scene that was an emotional HIGH, regardless of your opinion on singing.

This show is saying TRUST ME, we aren’t going to steer you off a cliff,

(even as it laughingly might grab you by the shoulders and push-pull you at the edge just to see you panic for a moment lol)

I am having a very good time with it, I have no idea how we’re going to pan out, and given the reoccurring fakeouts I am now highly suspicious of it’s intro scene in ep 1. But I am seriously starting to trust this show. I feel like I can take my hands of the rails throw them in the air and enjoy the ride

Anyone coming?

(Don't get me wrong, the tropes are stil everywhere)

#City of Stars #City of Stars the series #Thai BL #rturts is wondering

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kishigunpla · 8 months

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Charma & Charmuro - A Dive into Gundam BL Doujinshi History

Join me as I go on a deep dive into the history of Charma and Charmuro, using doujinshi as a point of reference. Featuring links to two spreadsheets with over 1000 books logged in total as I attempt to piece together a timeline of these two iconic pairings.

#gundam #what do I even tag this...

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absolutebl · 1 year

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BL Streaming - Which Service is Worth Your Money?

I’m bored and I have a little extra time this morning so it’s time for ABL to play with the spreadsheet of doom.

Occasionally I get the question:

If I were to subscribe to only one platform for BL which should I pick?

This post is dated May 2023.

First things first. I am going to be (somewhat) objective about this and not judge on quality of content. Because if KinnPorsche is all you love in life, obvs you need iQIYI, but if you are a HIStory franchise stan, than it’s all about Viki. Those are your life choices, I’m just here to play numbers games, okay?

Secondly, some shows air on multiple platforms, particularly Viki & Gaga, but sometimes it’s Gaga & YouTube, occasionally it’s even iQIYI + others. This has only started happening in the last few years. Bed Friend was on 3 different platforms (GaGa, iQIYI, YT) - even though it was originally announced for Viki! I honestly don’t know how to track this, so I tend to log the spreadsheet with my preferred watching platform for that language, this will throw the numbers off for those platforms.

Since I join everything my platform preference choice is based on:

the quality of the subs/captions

the quality of the user experience

My subs experience tends to be:

YT = best for Thai

Viki = best for Korean and sometimes Japanese, okay for Thai

Gaga = best for Chinese and sometimes Japanese but very weak Thai subs

My user interface preference is:

YT, Viki, Gaga in that order then everyone else with iQIYI at the bottom. This is because I watch on mobile devices.

ASplay, WeTV, former Line, Amarin TV, Netflix and the other smaller suppliers (and apps) will all be grouped together for this assessment. Since they have so few offerings, by default I would not recommend subbing those platforms unless you are a hard stan of all BL with disposable income.

Super bad BLs that I watched back in the day on grey sites or YT (pre 2020 crack down) because there were no other options and I am a completest are still listed as grey. I would never suggest anyone watch these shows anyway, so I don’t care if they have now shown up on legitimate sites. If they are somewhere, it’s likely Gaga. Which means Gaga’s percentage of the market share is probably UNDER reported by my numbers.

Movies and cinema-only releases that never got international distribution fall into the “grey” category. If I got it off an indie subber, since that too is technically illegal, it falls into the grey category as well.

Final note: This is from a USA based IP, I don’t use a VPN, so platforms assessments are from that perspective.

Spring 2023, current state of the spreadsheet. AKA

Our BL Data Set

Total # of BLs = 564

# of BLs ongoing (so finished runtime is best guess) = 18

Just Answer the Damn Question

Round Number of Actual BLs - % of market share

YouTube = 218 - 38.6%

Gaga = 148 - 26.2%

Viki = 77 - 13.7%

Grey = 53 - 9.4%

BLs I’ve never been able to find on any platform (including grey): 36 - 6.4%

iQIYI = 14 - 2.5%

Other platforms = 12 - 2.2%

Margin of error: +- 1% (look I’m just not driven to be that accurate here)

Subscription Platforms Breakdown - % of market share

Eliminating YouTube, Grey, and missing BLs. Viki is included because I do not know which of theirs are behind the paywall and which are not.

Total subscribe-only BLs: 257

Gaga = 59%

Viki = 30%

iQIYI = 6%

Sml sites/apps = 5%

(rounded)

Okay but how about actual runtime?

Gaga = 360 hrs - 44%

Viki = 311 hrs - 38%

iQIYI = 98 hrs - 12%

Sml sites = 50 hrs - 6%

Anyway you cut it... on pure BL standards...

GAGAOOLALA WINS

Other consideration? In most places Gaga is ALSO the cheapest per month option.

Final Thoughts

YouTube (America’s Alphabet)

YT has the most pieces of content and longest overall runtime because of all the Thai stuff. ALSO bootlegs show up there, especially the early Chinese and Japanese stuff. They will often get taken down and you have to hunt for it again. YT takedowns come in waves, every 6 months or so.

However, GMMTV, some Star Hunter, some Studio Wabi Sabi, all the Vietnamese & Pinoy stuff (until now), and a few choice bits of Strongberry are YT content.

YT’s app is the best UX of a poor set (for me), but the web based YT at Premium level doesn’t work with Firefox. I use YT for work A LOT, so the fee for Premium ($13.99) and lack of ads + downloads (travel) is worth it for me, but I think it probubly isn’t if you’re on a budget.

GaGaOOLaLa (Taiwan’s Portico Media)

Of the pay to play platforms, GaGa dominates with the most BLs by all metrics. If you’re intersted in darker BL, GL and other queer content, very high heat, the history of the genre, or Japanese stuff - most of that is on GaGa. Also all of Strongberry and some of the newer queerer series (like My Ride).

At $6.99 a month it’s ALSO one of the cheapest options.

Gaga is based out of Taiwan, the only Asian country with marriage equality (as of 2022) AND it specializes in exclusively queer content so they need our support. If you can afford them, you should support them. GaGa is the only platform that will always have more BL, guaranteed (so long as Taiwan is autonomous). Ironically, you can follow their YT channel for previews and teasers to their latest series, short content, and acquisitions.

Their app isn’t great, but their web-based interface is fine. That said: there’s no categories (way to organize), and the way they roll out new episodes is unintuitive. Their mobile app ALWAYS pauses not mater what you actually want it to do and the lack of the quick skip ahead is frustrating.

Viki (Japan’s Rakutan)

Viki specializes in longer series, mostly Thai, Taiwanese, and a few of the Chinese bromances. It also now has a lot of KBLs. But in general only more recent stuff (2018 is as far back as they go).

At $4.99-$11.99 depending, it’s low to average cost. I’m not sure which one (if any) you actually need for BL. Most of my favorite new shows tend to air on Viki, and I like Rakutan as a parent company, so I don’t mind supporting them.

They happen to have 5 of my top ten BLs, which is A LOT (since I hand out 10/10 so rarely). So for me they host the objective best BL content.

They have the second best app (after YT, it’s kinda a combo of YT + Netflix) but the lack of a speed-up option is frustrating for many. Also the desktop version is super buggy. But they DO have categories you can name and control, which I love.

Other Platforms

iQIYI - is Mainland China based (hello Baidu, you ugly fucker), so the platform getting/pimping BL for an international audience only is… how do I put this?… oh yeah: shitty. I will often rename it Icky, for this reason. It clearly wants to break the market, but… do we want it in the market at all? How long will they host BLs? When will they be shut down and censored? I would say it’s only worth it if you really also like Chinese dramas. And even so, Viki also has A LOT of those. Unfortunately for us, Wabi Sabi seems to have cut a distribution deal with Icky. And, of course, there is the KinnPorsche situation (so ironic that Icky hosts the highest heat). The interface is a nightmare. They have the WORST app, even when you pay, it serves ads, some of which alpha crash the platform.

Netflix - here in the states it almost never has new BL content. Sometimes some old stuff. They tested the waters with SOTUS and Love Sick. I have a feeling they aren’t particularly intersted in this market. So if BL is what you watch, don’t bother. At last check they still had Gameboys and Your Name Engraved Herein and Wish You.

WeTV - acts like LineTV used to, has Manner of Death and We Best Love and a few of the more obscure Thai pulps. But probably not worth it for anyone but a completest.

Grey - Unknown or No Distributor

Indie subbers: there’s some BLs that you can watch by supporting indie subbers who supply private links to their personal versions. This is not legal, but it is a slightly nicer way to get stuff you can’t find anywhere else. I’ve done this for some Thai and Japanese stuff.

I find the leads for these sources here on Tumblr. If someone is giffing and talking about a show and I don’t know how they are getting hold of it, I simply ask.

DramaCool (USA) & Dailymotion (France) & Bilibili (China) and others - AKA the grey space. You SHOULD feel guilty using these sites, you’re stealing, but it’s where many of us go for BL we can’t find anywhere else (in defiance of what few morals we have left). These are BLs that originally sold to very odd platforms or never got international distribution. Unfortunately, some of my favorites are in this category like Great Men Academy or Seven Days. It’s a nightmare. The ads are terrible and the virus/bug risk is high. They get taken down all the time. Or the leads are faked. I use an old computer to access and suggest you take all necessary precautions yourself.

P’ABL SOAP BOX TIME

Look I work tangential to the entertainment industry, so if you thought I wasn’t going to learn you a little on this subject, you got another think coming.

HERE’S THE THING:

You watch a show on one of the grey platforms, ESPECIALLY if it actually has distribution on Gaga or Viki - you better review that shit. You spread the word and advocate for that content here, on MDL, on social media, with fan art, I don’t care. You steal it, you find a way to pay back in your time and/or creativity.

I get it if you’re poor, but don’t be a goddamn scab. Find a way to reward content creators with non-monetary support. If you had the time to watch the thing you stole, you have time to pay it forward in some substantial way. Do this even if you didn’t steal it but got it for free. Do this if you read fanfic. Do this with articles, blogs, books. Do this with podcasts.

It isn’t hard to be a decent human and support creators. Don’t you dare just TAKE. If you’re that kind of person stop reading this blog immediately. I don’t want anything to do with you and you don’t deserve my words or my spreadsheet of Doom.

/rant

MORE ON THIS TOPIC WITH FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS

Original post on this subject that I adapted for this post.

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loveable-sea-lemon · 1 year

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MY BL SPREADSHEET

hello i am coming out as incredibly neurodivergent and sharing the spreadsheet that i use to rate and keep track of bls <3

my categories

the full spread but here's the link if anyone wants to look closer

if you make silly spreadsheets or something similar ADD YOURS AND LET ME SEE IT 🫶🏻

*note: these are just my personal opinions, please don't be mean if you disagree. this is all light-hearted <3

more of my insanity: blorbo playlists

#im normal #this is normal behavior #thai bl #korean bl #kdrama #gmmtv #thai drama #autism #neurodivergent #spreadsheet #adhd #og posting #bl brainworms #jupe being normal

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ranchthoughts · 9 months

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A Preliminary and Incomplete Attempt at Outlining the GMMTV Kissing Multiverse

EDIT: Update posted here! Thanks everyone for their help! Follow along with new updates by checking the tag here.

A work in progress, but I thought I would share the contents of my spread sheet so far.

I've focused more on the boys so far just because I am more familiar with the BL GMMTV shows. But! I want this to be as inclusive and wide ranging as possible so any expertise in het or other QL GMMTV shows would be much appreciated, as well as those familiar with older GMMTV BL. I need more data about the women of GMMTV!

Rules

Must be lip to lip contact

Must be shown on screen in a GMMTV tv series (no kisses from ads, promotional content, etc.)

(here's a lil peek of the spreadsheet)

Breakdown by Show

So far, I have looked at 29 individual shows (though I'm looking at 2gether and Still 2gether as the same entity right now because I don't know either well) (in brackets is the shortform I've been using):

A Boss and a Babe (ABAAB): Book/Force, Fluke Pusit/Ohm Thipakorn

A Tale of a Thousand Stars (ATOTS): Earth/Mix

Bad Buddy (BB): Nanon/Ohm

Be My Favourite (BMF): Gawin/Krist

Dark Blue Kiss (DBK): New/Tay, Gawin/Pod

Enchante: Book/Force

Fish Upon the Sky (FUTS): Phuwin/Pond, Louis/Neo

He's Coming to Me (HCTM): Ohm/Singto, Ohm/Gigie

Mama Gogo (MMGG): Drake/Ciize, Joss/Gigie, Lee/Cris

Moonlight Chicken (MLC): Earth/Mix, Earth/Papang, First/Mix, Fourth/Gemini [do Mark Pakin and View kiss on screen? Also, I'm debating counting the Fourth/Gemini kiss because we don't actually see their lips BUT it's clearly supposed to be a kiss on the lips...]

My School President (MSP): Fourth/Gemini, Satang/Winny

Never Let Me Go (NLMG): Phuwin/Pond

Not Me (NM): Gun/Off, First/Gawin [Off and Lookjun? I forget]

Only Friends (OF): so far... Drake/Neo, Neo/Mark Pakin, Book/Force [we will be getting First/Khaotung for sure... Force/Neo?]

Star in my Mind (SIMM): Dunk/Joong, Dunk/Pepper

Sky in your Heart (SIYH): Mek/Mark Jiruntanin

SOTUS: Krist/Singto

The Eclipse (Eclipse): First/Khaotung, Louis/Neo

The Jungle (Jungle): Krist/Lee, Mild/Nanon

The Shipper (Shipper): First/Ohm, First/Prigkhing [do Fluke and View kiss?]

Theory of Love (TOL): Gun/Off [how many women, if any, does Off kiss onscreen in this series?]

Tonhon Chonlatee (Tonhon): Khaotung/Pod, Mike/Toptap [do Mike and Toptap actually kiss on the lips?]

UMG: Nanon/Namtam

Vice Versa (VV): Jimmy/Sea

Warp Effect (Warp): New/Fah, New/Silvy, New/Fluke Pusit, New/Gigie, Fluke Pusit/Thor, Fluke Pusit/Gigie, Sing/Ciize

2gether/Still 2gether: Mike/Toptap

3 Will Be Free (3WBF): Joss/Tay, Joss/Mild, Mild/Tay [do Jennie and Max kiss? I don't think so...]

55:15 Never Too Late (55:15): Khaotung/Pawin

Our leaders as of right now for "most different pairs kissing in one show" are:

Warp Effect (7 pairs)

Moonlight Chicken (4 pairs)

Only Friends (3 pairs [so far 👀])

Mama Gogo and 3 Will Be Free (3 pairs)

In short: Jojo...

Breakdown by actor

Book: Force (ABAAB, Enchante, OF)

Drake: Ciize (MMGG), Neo (OF)

Dunk: Joong (SIMM), Pepper (SIMM)

Earth: Mix (ATOTS, MLC), Papang (MLC)

First: Mix (MLC), Gawin (NM), Khaotung (Eclipse, OF), Ohm (Shipper), Prigkhing (Shipper)

Fluke Gawin: Krist (BMF), Pod (DBK), First (NM)

Fluke Pusit: Ohm Thipakorn (ABAAB), Thor (Warp), Gigie (Warp)

Force: Book (ABAAB, Enchante, OF)

Fourth: Gemini (MLC, MSP)

Gemini: Fourth (MLC, MSP)

Gun: Off (NM, TOL)

Jimmy: Sea (VV)

Joong: Dunk (SIMM)

Joss: Gigie (MMGG), Tay (3WBF), Mild (3WBF)

Khaotung: First (Eclipse), Pod (Tonhon), Pawin (55:15)

Krist: Gawin (BMF), Singto (SOTUS), Lee (Jungle)

Lee: Cris (MMGG), Krist (Jungle)

Louis: Neo (FUTS, Eclipse)

Mark Pakin: Neo (OF)

Mark Jiruntanin: Mek (SIYH)

Mek: Mark Jiruntanin (SIYH)

Mike: Toptap (Tonhon, 2gether)

Mix: Earth (ATOTS, MLC), First (MLC)

Nanon: Ohm (BB), Namtam (UMG), Mild (Jungle)

Neo: Louis (FUTS, Eclipse), Drake (OF), Mark Pakin (OF)

New: Tay (DBK), Fah (Warp), Silvy (Warp), Fluke Pusit (Warp), Gigie (Warp)

Off: Gun (NM, TOL)

Ohm Thipakorn: Fluke Pusit (ABAAB)

Ohm: Nanon (BB), Singto (HCTM), Gigie (HCTM), First (Shipper)

Papang: Earth (MLC)

Pawin: Khaotung (55:15)

Pepper: Dunk (SIMM)

Phuwin: Pond (FUTS, NLMG)

Pod: Gawin (DBK), Khaotung (Tonhon)

Pond: Phuwin (FUTS, NLMG)

Tay: New (DBK), Joss (3WBF), Mild (3WBF)

Thor: Fluke Pusit (Warp)

Toptap: Mike (Tonhon, 2gether)

Satang: Winny (MSP)

Sea: Jimmy (VV)

Sing: Ciize (Warp)

Singto: Ohm (HCTM), Krist (SOTUS)

Winny: Satang (MSP)

Our leaders for "most kissing partners" so far then are:

First and New (5 people each)

Ohm (4 people)

Fluke Gawin, Fluke Pusit, Joss, Khaotung, Krist, Nanon, Neo, and Tay (3 people each)

Bonus! I don't have much data on the women of GMMTV yet but Gigie is emerging an early leader... (she's kissed Fluke Pusit, Joss, New, and Ohm as far as I've found)

Bonus! Actors I have listed on the spreadsheet who haven't kissed anyone in a show I've looked at yet: Aou, Chimon, Gunsmile, Perth, White

If you have anything to add, please let me know! Ideally I want the most complete breakdown of all the boys and girls of GMMTV's stable possible.

Some shows I know I'm missing, for example: I'm Tee Me Too, Puppy Honey, Kiss Me Again, Water Boyy, Love Sick, Home School, Midnight Museum, Cause You're My Boy, 10 Year's Ticket, Wake Up Ladies, My Dear Loser, Dirty Laundry, The Gifted...

thanks to @waitmyturtles for enthusiastically supporting this project. thanks to @chickenstrangers for filling in some blank spots. @sammie-lightwood-bane you asked to be tagged once spreadsheets got involved...

#gmmtv multiverse #kissing multiverse #this is a call for help!#please double check I haven't missed anyone #and feel free to add new shows to the mix!

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outofthemouthsof · 1 month

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15-Day BL Challenge in 1 Night!

I'm more of a lurker than a poster but Tumblr's my fave place to wallow in BLness. My 2nd favorite place is the spreadsheet where I track the shows I've watched (172 completed in just over a year), so @negrowhat 's challenge was irresistible. I'm gonna cram my answers in one post. Here goes!

Fave OG Actor Pairing: Some of the ones I think of as OG are only like 4 years old, so this was tough. And the 18 shows that have gotten my top score aren't very old. But I went through those 18 and picked the oldest, and it was the 2018 Korean microfilm Some More. Because it's so short it's super rewatchable, but even if I wasn't able to watch the whole thing a half dozen times (which I have), I'd still have gone back & watched the sweet moments and sex scene about 25 times (which I have). So I guess my fave OG actor pairing is Park Chan Ung and Kim Joon Bum! How they got me so deeply invested in their love in mere minutes is beyond me, but they did!

Fave Rookie Actor Pairing: Does Japan do the CP thing that Thailand does? I don't think so, but one couple I wish had about a dozen more BL series together lined up are Kouhei Higuchi and Atsuki Mashiko of My Personal Weatherman! Their chemistry was visceral and they're too pretty to be believed.

Side Dish That Should've Been the Main Course: While I enjoyed the main pairing a lot, they were nothing compared to the crazy rollercoaster side plot (how'd it go from so funny to SO dark to so sexy to so sweet and wholesome like that??) of Vegas/Pete from KinnPorsche!

Fave Ship Dynamic: Obvs from answers 2 & 3 I am not against D/s ships at ALL. Also a sucker for tough-but-submissive-bodyguard with mafia-brat-prince. Honestly I like tons of different dynamics from innocent to toxic, but one that gives me major butterflies is a guy who thinks he's straight but when confronted with the idea of liking another guy, doesn't have a macho freakout or run away, just kind of straightforwardly & sincerely searches his feelings until he figures it out. And then takes care of his baby. Why's that so HOT and sweet? Some of my fave examples: Pete/Ae in Love By Chance, Le Jian/Amber from DNA Says Love You, and Ida/Aoki from My Love Mix-Up!

Biggest Flop: This is expectations vs. execution, right? There's loads of shows I've abandoned, some I've stuck with for no good reason, etc., that are way worse than what I consider my personal biggest let-down. I was so enamored of Perth from LBC that I assumed he could do no wrong, and the bully-to-lover, rich/poor pairings often do it for me. So I guess I just assumed Dangerous Romance would be amazing, and it was REALLY good for a couple episodes. It wasn't the worst thing I ever saw, but so much of it just ... felt ... flat. Very surprising.

Fave Line From Your Fave Series: Well I know my fave series--Cherry Magic Thailand was the most perfect, entrancing, heartwarming series EVER, OMG, it was staggeringly good and stuck the landing in a way few shows have managed. I can't really think of one standout line--the script was so on point & there were HUNDREDS of sweet tingly moments. There were some epic ones in ep11 tho: When Achi says "The voice inside your head is so loud" and Karan (the boldest he's ever been) replies "Don't worry; soon you won't be able to read my mind anymore." (But then clearly uses that power one more time to gain the sweetest nonverbal consent EVER.) Then, Karan: "Do you regret losing your power?" Achi: "I'd regret not loving you." (OMG how I squealed.)

Fave Villain: This was so tough. An over-the-top villain I loved to hate (and an actor I loved from his sweetie-pie green-flag role in SCOY) was obvs Heng Asavarid as Chalothon in The Sign. But an actor who was so excellent at being loathsome and malicious toward the main couple, with just enough of a redemption arc that I didn't totally despise the character by the end (but did hate most of the way through): Park Hae In as Eun Ji (Jae Won's ex) in The Eighth Sense. It was a typical "faen fatale" role but so well done. So a tie between 2 totally different takes on the destructive ex.

The Trope You Hate Except When It's "This Series": OK, "hate" is a strong word for how I feel about the drop-of-rain-makes-you-ill so love-interest-takes-care-of-you trope. It's OK. But holy SHIT is it overused. Holy shit. I sigh resignedly when I realize we're going there. EXCEPT. When P'Phayu goes to visit Rain in Love in the Air when he's sick, and his version of caregiving? Forcibly applying medicine in the form of a rectal suppository. It is so funny, weirdly sexy, very in line with their dynamic (doesn't get in the way of their romance moments later at all), & it shoves a big middle finger up the overoveroverused sick-bed trope.

Most Visually Pleasing Love Scene: Okay, THE scene in The Sign is the clear winner in my & many people's books. But there are so many runners-up: the post-race one in Love in the Air. Just about every one in Pit Babe (both couples) & My Personal Weatherman. (A lot of other faves don't quite qualify as visually or emotionally pleasing--lustfully pleasing should be a 3rd category in this challenge!)

Most Emotionally Pleasing Love Scene: Again, I have a clear winner: Cherry Magic Thailand. So full of emotion, so well deserved, so everything. Sigh. But lots of runners-up: same scene in The Sign, both kissing scenes in DNA Says Love You (tame but soo emotionally satisfying), Ray & Sand's camper reunion in Only Friends, the post-prison love scenes for both couples in Kiseki: Dear to Me, the 1st time in I Feel You Linger in the Air ...

Breakup That Should've Stayed Broken Up: Maybe it's because I try to be choosy in what I watch all the way thru or maybe I'm a big softy who tends to root for every couple no matter how lame. In all my completed shows, I could only think of 2 breakups where I wasn't at all invested in them getting back together (and maybe against it): Tian/Poon, What Zabb Man and Top/Mew, Only Friends.

Wedding You Wish You Had an Invite To: If we're talking weddings that actually appeared in the show, Achi and Karan's in Cherry Magic Thailand, obvs! If it's hypothetical weddings, I'd be desperate to go to one of ANY of the characters in Playboyy! I'd wear a bulletproof vest & bring my own flask of booze, but it would be the trashy chaos-filled social event of a lifetime.

Give 5 Good Boys a Gold Star: Just 5? OK, some I haven't mentioned yet. 1. Shin Woo, Light on Me, 2. Palm, Never Let Me Go, 3. Mohk, Last Twilight, 4. Thun, He's Coming to Me, 5. Neua, Secret Crush on You. Best boys!

The Top 5 Most Sad Boys: I'll limit it to ones where the suffering was kinda pretty, not just painful. 1. Way, Pit Babe, 2. Akk, The Eclipse, 3. Kaipa/Gaipa, Moonlight Chicken, 4. Hae Bom, Cherry Blossoms After Winter, 5. Kiyoi, My Beautiful Man

Bestest Besties: Just one? Gah! Fine, Pearl & Gavreel in Gameboys. She got those boys together in quarantine!

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zakanakai · 2 months

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Its me, back at it again with the funny spreadsheets

So on July 5th, I did my initial post of the Funny Sin Counting Spreadsheet

Its time for an update!

Link to the Spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1GiO4F1Sf8soycIDIgDc9XrpptVBIghkxaaFGRCXSOQI/edit#gid=0

Small Note on how I calculate Sin Numbers:

Skill 1 = 1, Skill 2 = 2, Skill 3 = 3, Guard Skill = 1, EGO = 1

Analysis of the Sins again below the cut:

Yi Sang

Oh my boy has Lust now! Its his lowest stat, but he has some!

His Sloth is still his main stat, at 19 now, with Gluttony now as his second.

Still Matches Default Ego

Faust

Faust's primary Sin is now Gloom at 16. (Formerly Envy!) Faust's Oddity with none of her IDs matching her original ID has now broken, starting with her Seven ID. However every ID since her original still has Gloom in it, which is impressive.. But she doesn't have the same sin in EVERY ID, unlike a certain someone who is mentioned later in this list

Faust was also our first person with an ID that has Four Different Sins in L Corp EGO Regret. And still the only one to have that. HOW ODD...

Still Does Not Match Default Ego

Don Quixote

Don's Sins have very much developed since then, with Envy being her primary sin at 13, and Lust behind at 10. Formerly being Envy/Lust match. This makes a lot of sense with her goal of wanting to fixer, and... She might be envious of their status.

No Longer Matches Default Ego

Ryoshu

Ryoshu is unchanged, with Lust as her primary since the last check in and now, going from 9 to 15 now. However her second has changed from Gluttony to Pride, which makes sense, an artist has to be proud of her work.

She did gain some Gloom, only 1... in Soda EGO. I too am inflicted with Gloom because of Capitalism, Ryoshu.

Still Matches Default Ego

Meursault

Meursault's Primary Sin hasn't changed in Pride at all, going from 11 to 17, but his Wrath has EXPLODED into second place at 14! My stoic boy, what do you have to be upset about? He still has 0 in Gluttony however.

I'm not quite sure how to categorize BL Meursault's Sin Numbers, because of his special skill. So I just... Put it as an extra 3. While not the first 1+2+3, he is the second... (And both Pride too, HM.)

Still Matches Default Ego

Hong Lu

Our boy is the biggest change out of everyone. He has a 3 way tie for Primary Sin in Lust, Sloth, and Pride at 11! This makes sense with his upbringing, but this is a big change from a primary Lust. Envy is however still his lowest Sin.

Still Does Not Match Default Ego

Heathcliff

Our King of Envy is back! At 19, With a clean sweep of Envy across all IDs! If his next ID has even ONE Envy in it, he'll break into the 20s. Lust is still his secondary sin, so he didn't change much here.

He did gain 1 pride at the Pequod ID, but still no Sloth.

Still Matches Default EGO

Ishmael

Ishmael's Primary Sin is still Wrath, at 17, and Gloom in second. She has gained a little bit of Sloth in her Boatwork Fixer ID. Theres not much else to comment on here.

Still Does Not Match Default EGO

Rodion

We have a mild change in Rodya's stats, as she has Two Primary Sins now with Wrath and Pride at 11 each. Shes all over the board with her sins, which makes sense, as she is indulgent at times.

Still Matches Default EGO (Barely!)

Sinclair

Sinclair's number changes are quite interesting in how they have expanded. While Wrath is still his primary, it is JUST BARELY, with Lust and Pride coming in at 10. Lust coming out of left field.

Gluttony is no longer his last sin (Now being Sloth), getting a huge boost from his last 2 IDs and Lantern.

Still Does Not Match Default EGO however, but matches better

Outis

Outis Outis Outis. Oh Outis.

Initially you were Inconclusive, now you are in the Pride Camp, my dear at 14. You also have a secondary in Lust at 11. These are what I thought she would have, but the Inconclusive numbers from before were really interesting. She still has 0 Envy however, which is still interesting.

The first person to have a 1+2+3 in a Sin, with Magic Bullet. This + Cinq boosted her Pride a lot

Now Matches Default EGO

Gregor

Gregor's Primary Sin is still Sloth at 12, but Gloom is catching up just one behind at 11, and Gluttony right behind that at 10. Poor boy still has a 0 in pride, and only a 1 in Wrath. We may see a tossup in Gregor's future

Still Matches Default Ego

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Top 3 In Sin

Instead of writing who has the highest and leaving it at that, I'm going to do a 1st 2nd 3rd for each Sin, it'll be more interesting that way.

Wrath:

1st is Ishmael at 17 (returning champion)

2nd is Meursault at 15

3rd is a Rodya Sinclair tie at 11

Lust:

1st is Ryoshu at 15 (new winner!)

2nd is a three way tie of Hong Lu, Heathcliff, and Outis at 11

3rd is a tie of Don and Sinclair at 10

Sloth:

1st is Yi Sang at 19 (returning champion)

2nd is Gregor at 12

3rd is Hong Lu at 11

Gluttony:

1st is Gregor at 10 (returning champion)

2nd is a 3 way tie with Yi Sang, Hong Lu, and Sinclair at 9

3rd is a tie with Rodya and Ryoshu at 7

Gloom

1st is Faust, knocking it out of the park with a 16 (new winner!)

2nd Gregor at 11

3rd is Ishmael at 10 (from 1st to 3rd)

Pride

1st is Meusault at 17 points (returning champion)

2nd is Outis with 14

3rd is a tie between Hong Lu and Rodya at 11

Envy

1st is Heathcliff at 19

2nd is Don at 13

3rd is Faust at 9

And thats all for my funny update! Thank you for reading all the way through. I hope this gave you some light on your favorite characters. Or if you're just interested in the numbers like I am!

#limbus company #project moon #outis lcb #gregor lcb #don quixote lcb #ishmael lcb #heathcliff lcb #faust lcb #yi sang lcb #ryoshu lcb #hong lu lcb #meursault lcb #rodion lcb #rodya lcb #sinclair lcb

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