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stellocchia · 3 years

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I think it's been more than two months since I pushed my "Wilbur is remembered far more competent than he is" agenda in your asks.

So let's rectify that, shall we?

Wilbur is pretty fucking incompetent. He's never been that amazing charismatic smooth talker we characterize him as (not that I'm not absolutely behind that too)

Like. Who did he ever successfully smoothtalk? The Lmanbergians? None of them were ever hesitant to join from the very beginning and Eret betrayed them pretty easily when Dream manipulated them.

Techno? Techno wanted to join them, he was the one who reached out to them. There was no convincing needed and Wilbur never convinces Techno of anything Techno wasn't already willing to do by himself.

Dream? Definitely not during the revolution and Dream's support during Pogtopia was Dream following his own agenda, not being influenced by Wilbur in any way.

He couldn't even get Quackity to let him into Las Nevadas.

Nah, the only person Wilbur ever smooth talked is TommyInnit. The fucking powerhouse of this cell. And even that's not completely true. Tommy hasn't been convinced by Wilbur of anything since the very beginning of the Lmanberg revolution. Not during Pogtopia. And not even now (it's not smooth talking if it's just exploiting mental exhaustion and trauma and all that. Tommy isn't convinced of what they're doing.)

Really. Not even Tommy, per se.

He just got Tommy extremely loyal and attached to him.

And honestly, that's all he needs.

You don't need to have influence over everyone, you just need to have strong influence over the right person.

And that's what Wilbur had and has.

Wilbur's accomplishments are just pretty much him having a vision and Tommy throwing himself at it to make it come true.

Wilbur had the idea for L'manberg but Tommy was the one leading the troops. Tommy was the one who negotiated for their independence and got it when Wilbur was negotiating their surrender. Tommy was the one who FOR NO REASON built the escape tunnel they escaped through when Dream blew up L'manberg and he was the one who built the lil panic room at the end. Tommy was the one who's home became the embassy to L'manberg (something Wilbur very much pressured and kinda manipulated him into btw. I'm never not gonna mention that lil detail when the embassy comes up)

Wilbur had the idea and stood around looking pretty. My guy literally stood around looking pretty, without armor, during battles. Just. I love him.

And let's not forget that Tommy was fckin great at being the general. The SMP was so much better equipped and still, L'manberg was kinda winning. To the extend that Dream saw the need for TnT (which was hidden) and the betrayal through Eret (which was hidden)

Dream felt the need to pull two deceitful moves to keep if not even gain the upper hand.

If I'm not mixing stuff up here, correct me if I'm wrong.

And stuff like the tunnel weren't even expected of Tommy. My boy just thought of that on his own and did it on his own. Noone knew it existed. Noone expected it to exist.

After independence Wilbur is implied to have been leading but he generally wasn't around too much. Tommy was keeping order in the more face to face kinda way. He tried to navigate people's personal conflicts and make sure things didn't escalate and just. He did so well.

And Pogtopia? Oh, Pogtopia.

It's a bit more difficult here, since they were no longer on exactly the same side and goals are more muddled but still.

(and I want to make it clear that I'm in no way trying to shame Wilbur for mental health issues or anything. This isn't about that. I'd never fucking even imply that)

Tommy kept morale high. He made sure that other people were fine, when there was a chance. He tried to reassure Wilbur when Wilbur was spiraling, he asked Tubbo if he was happier, he told Tubbo to be safe, he recruited Quackity when he saw the chance while making sure that Quackity's intentions were sincere enough (he didn't just naively offer Quackity a place in Pogtopia and risk it being a trap).

He avoided any kind of destruction to L'manberg as much as possible.

He rallied people.

Really, his one actual flaw was not "turning" on Wilbur. His unwillingness to give up on him or even just incapacitate him or limiting his ability to act as he wanted was what ended up costing him everything. His unwillingness to interfere with Wilburs plans beyond talking to him and threatening him with a crossbow that one time ended up making the 16th possible. And he can hardly be blamed for that.

And Wilbur, during Pogtopia... Well... Nobody liked him, he made everyone uncomfortable and most people just kinda tolerated him because... Yeah...

Without Tommy troop morale would have been abysmal thanks to Wilbur. He constantly put himself and his side down, labeling them as villains and thus morally inferior. He pitted his own people against each other, spread paranoia between his people. No communication or actually planning involving other people. Still refused to wear armor.

And don't get me wrong, that's the point. He wasn't on their side. Obviously Tommy added more to their victory, Wilbur didn't want their victory. But still I just wanna praise my boy Tommy, he was. So amazing. Boy fucking peaked.

He's so good in tactical warfare or whatever you call it.

And I wanna just make it clear that this isn't criticism of Wilbur. Not at all. This isn't criticism at all. This is just about the big fanon perception of Wilbur as this great and mature leader.

Tbh this is actually more about showing people how amazing Tommy was and PLEASE I WANT FICS TO HAVE TOMMY BE MORE OF AN EFFECTIVE POWERHOUSE

Regarding my former ask I just wanted to clarify again that I'm not trying to critique Wilbur or anything.

It's really just that I think it's hilarious how people remember him as way more put together and competent than he really was.

Yeah, honestly one of the biggest disservice people have done to c!Tommy in this fandom is fail to portray him as the badass general that he actually was. Like, sure, Wilbur's title was as "general", but he never did anything for it. He gave a few speeches, but then the work was left up to Tommy. Like, genuinely, rewatch the Eret betrayal vod, Wilbur says it openly that he's leaving it in Tommy's hands. And Tommy does manage to lead his troops into an advantageous position! They get their enemies to retire at one point during the very first battle!

Then, of course, there is the betrayal, but, once again, Tommy didn't give up. He built the tunnel for their scuffed escape beforehand and, when everyone was just about ready to give up, he went against Dream in a duel and then traded the discs for their independence without loosing a beat.

Tommy was a BIG asset during that war!

Wilbur mostly was and still is kind of a wreak. And it's not his fault, 'cause mental health is an absolute bitch and he wasn't doing too hot after the war, then it got worse with Pogtopia and even worse during the 13 years in Limbo. And now we are where we are now with Wilbur being... not a great individual.

But still! In Pogtopia Tommy was the de-facto leader. And yeah, that was because Wilbur wasn't on their side anymore, but they didn't entirely know that. Or didn't wanna see that.

Tommy himself was hoping that Wilbur would "come back around" if he managed to get back their country. That was a big motivator for him. And he did everything that was in his power to do to not lose either Wilbur or L'Manburg. He tried talking to Wilbur multiple times, tried persuading him that there was another way, he never bought into Wilbur's ideals, he recruited people and he lead the troops once again. It wasn't Techno that lead the troops (despite him being a much better fighter) it was Tommy. And once everything was exploded and Techno and Wilbur betrayed them? Well he kept encouraging people. Literally I'm begging everyone to watch that vod! Tommy was there at every step of the way, telling Niki that it wasn't over, telling Quackity to keep fighting and, after that, you know who was there to validate Tubbo's presidency? To rally people behind him? It wasn't Tubbo. Tommy gathered everyone by the L'Mantree and got their spirits high once again.

He is just genuinely amazing.

And, like, yeah now Wilbur managed to manipulate Tommy to an extent to be by his side. But that's not that much of an accomplishment anymore because Tommy has just been through so much that he's exhausted now, as you said. Like, remember when Tommy said he wanted to be on Wilbur's side because "he gets things done"? Well, I'm still waiting to see that one honestly...

#ladycatland ask #dream smp #tommyinnit #c!tommy #c!wilbur critical #<< just in case #long post #character analysis #tl:dr #the fanon interpretations for tommy and wilbur are often a reverse of canon #tommy is made to be a lot more incompetent and in need of help while wilbur is made a lot more competent and in control #I wonder why that became the case?

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xpoolboy · 2 years

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Techno, Quackity, and Purpled at the Red Banquet

these three characters are so interesting to me, because their arcs are the ones that center the most around the ideas of revenge, and because of that they directly or indirectly parallel one another

techno's arc obviously parallels quackity's, especially regarding the butcher army. quackity tries to seek revenge on techno, only for it to fail and for him to bear a scar that constantly reminds him of it. consequently, techno parallels this by seeking revenge on quackity (and lmanberg in general) but unlike quackity, he fully succeeds in this. and while quackity's failure to get revenge only pushes him to go further into power-hunger and isolate himself, keeping his true motives from everyone and becoming more manipulative, techno's success causes him to create a community of like-minded individuals who he trusts.

purpled's arc also obviously parallels quackity's. quackity ruins purpled's legacy, purpled ruins quackity's legacy in revenge. almost all the lessons that quackity taught slime, purpled followed and excuted perfectly, while quackity failed to do so.

purpled's arc and techno's arc indirectly parallel each other through quackity. they've had very few interactions in canon, but their characters are very alike. they're both known as some of the strongest fighters on the server, they both typically end up "winning", both feared by the server, and while techno is less isolated now, they've both been through periods with extreme amounts of isolation from the SMP.

it's also interesting to look at these character's relationships with attachments, as that was a huge theme in s1 and s2. on the spectrum, techno is the character with the most attachments, and they've been used against him multiple times, but that doesn't stop him from caring. usually, he's able to protect his attachments due to his strength, but sometimes he's failed to (ranboo's death). quackity is in the middle. he tries so hard to not get attached because he's seen how attachments can be used against people, he's even used them against people in some instances, such as purpled's UFO. this brings us to purpled. purpled has one attachment left, his dog, Dogchamp. that's it. and he keeps Dogchamp safe and hidden. due to his anonimity on the server, most people probably don't even know that Dogchamp exists. techno and purpled are both what quackity wishes he could be when it comes to attachments - strong enough to protect them, or secret enough to hide them to the point where no one knows about them.

what makes these parallels so interesting is that all three characters have worked together, at the red banquet, due to quackity recruiting techno and purpled as strong fighters. quackity recruited purpled through a mixture of threats, bribery, and a little bit of manipulation. to my knowledge, we never got full reasoning for techno's joining of quackity, but it was generally due to a brief alignment in values and fighting for a common goal to defeat the egg.

later, both techno and purpled's tenative alliance with quackity is ruined, and become his enemy. they have so many parallels and such similar arcs and characteristics, and i think if canon allows for their goals to align again and have a team up, it would be incredibly interesting and be a great oppertunity to expand their characters

tldr; techno and purpled have many similarities, especially with their relationships with quackity, and i would do anything for a canon interaction longer than a few sentences because i desperately need for them to be besties

#no beta we die like c!slime #dsmp #purpled #technoblade #quackity #dsmp analysis #im not even rereading this i said what i said #also this is like 90% for aix bc purpled & techno duo <333333 #mentor!techno for purpled is the only acceptable mentor/parental figure i'll allow purpled to ever have #they should bond over hating Q #long post

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vicea · 3 years

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techno and dreams dynamic tho :c so good so pure. how dream said now they're closer and he doesn't want to jeopardize that by doing another big competitive thing against him (even though we'd all be happy to see it and they'd get so much clout) im luv them

oh my god how I literally have been waiting for this moment. technoblade and dream... the OP duo... the “Make-A-Wish” team... I MISS them so MUCH God when they work together, when they team together, when they have interactions I get so excited because there’s not a dull moment with these minecraft nerds.

you already mentioned one thing that literally lives in my head rent free and it’s the fact that dream said the main reason why he doesn’t want to do a manhunt against techno is because he does not want to make this “rival” status of theirs into this enemy thing between communities and between them because they’re friends and he doesn’t want to lose that- and like 🥺 dream really cherishes their friendship a lot !! and respects techno so so much. he’s always been such a big fan of his and they’re both overall super supportive of each other under the whole rivals bit:

exhibit A

exhibit B <- also has a link to techno and dream wholesome friendship moments where techno is seen being a dream stan (said it himself in minecraft chat) as well (for clout but lets ignore that part) and also being really supportive after the mrbeast duel

exhibit C techno referencing road trip here GGhhhHHGH

like i remember his first message to techno on discord was to team with him for minecraft monday too albeit probably for clout but lets be real this clout chase between them is a mutual thing and they both don’t mind at all. plus it’s fucking OP as hell

another thing that lives in my head rent free is the fact that dream wanted to just vc techno when they were the only ones on the dream smp and just wanted to talk (before sap, george, and bbh crashed their VC LOL) like... that’s crumbs yo. CRUMBS for rivalsblr. and also we cannot forget the infamous “dream is homeless bit” by techno... how dream had techno’s livestream pulled up and was listening in to his every joke and playing along by making a small diary and writing everything word for word that techno said as a joke. and then this part here too. like they easily bounce off of each other so well,, more interactions please.

GOD I cannot emphasize HOW funny it is whenever dream is trying to do lore and Techno is just pulling his “breaking the fourth wall” jokes in the middle (as he always does) because Techno would just be reading his donations aloud and dream would be patient and just barely tolerate it at first then BLOW UP AFTER THE FOURTH TIME OR SMTH. LIKE TECHNO LOVES PUSHING HIS BUTTONS ITS HILARIOUS god i love them

okay this is more dream smp lore related but like,,, c!dream being the only one that ever really stayed true to his word and never betrayed c!techno... and c!techno agreeing wholeheartedly, but then like both of them explicitly stating that they aren’t friends. we love to see it !! stating and !! respecting !! each other’s boundaries whilst blowing up countries together 😎 (like yeah i get it, both of them saw an advantage and took it but let me HAVE MY CRUMBS PLEASE) also dream and techno teaming up with tommy during the battle of the lake and winning... that was fucking epic and before the 3rd explosion of lmanberg and tommy’s betrayal against techno - techno goes “is this where you turn in your favor?” but then dream is like “pft what No you already wanted to blow up lmanberg” and techno goes “you know me so well dream” BHBJBJBHJ (SYNDICATE!DREAM COME TRUE OR ELSE)

OKAY also lmao I think it is always so funny every time I am reminded of how fucking sweaty dream and techno are even in the dream smp lore. Like the two standing facts of how dream literally made a WHOLE ass fucking obsidian grid above lmanberg with his fucking rapid TNT dropping thing and techno 1. breeding probably over hundreds of wolves as his army and 2. grinding for... way too many wither skulls. and both of them were on the same side. like holy shit they really know how to blow a country up.

also lets not forget the fact that once for buildmart, techno and dream “cheated” the MCC system by learning the builds for build mart (they were on separate teams too)- techno saying “there are 26 builds” and dream was like “actually 27″ they are absolute SWEATY NERDS and I LOVE THEM for that

speaking of MCC... when dream and techno teamed up that one time it was probably both relieving and stressful at the same time. because 1. they both play MCC competitively but in the case they are teammates, they will be more confident in each other’s skills and be like “oh i have dream/techno, they can do the heavy lifting.” whilst at the same time 2. because they are competitive and rivals, they want to outdo each other, they want to show off to each other as well you know?? like “I beat you in parkour” or “i outlived you in battle box” but also we’re on the same team and still winning LOL SO IT’S AN EZ DUBBB

OH WAIT and also that one time in minecraft bingo... i remember seeing a comparison of them being nervous due to the time pressure and it’s funniest thing ever. Dream talking really fast about what materials he has and asking questions to techno whilst techno is like the buffering noise. i love how complete opposites they can be

... we were robbed of rivalsblr content too from that one masquerade party one... could’ve had it all...

anyway! in conclusion, i’m going to drop some more rivalsblr crumbs here and here and god i love their dynamic so much please give me more content of them and also dream smp related- get c!techno to find out canonically that c!dream is imprisoned and being tortured. have him Feel Revenge for someone he didn’t consider a friend just an ally who had a common goals. and free c!dream and have a happy ending of them being besties who spar every day wooooo

just like i said with tommy’s post... fuck continuity, fuck plot holes. just want techno + dream interactions.

#dreamwastaken #technoblade #rivalsblr #dream smp #long post #rambles #vi's asks #thank you anon. thank u sm. i needed to gush about them somewhere SOMETIME. that is now.#cw torture mention #<- about c!dream :weary:

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griffintail · 3 years

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Dear Dad, We won Lmanburg, but we lost a lot. Eret betrayed us and we all lost our first lives in the control room. Tommy lost another in a duel with Dream. But we got our country. I-I'm going to be the best president- Dad, I lost the election. Schlatt and Quackity won and then exiled Tommy and I. Fundy was part of the mob. I lost my second life. We started a new country in a hole in the mountain. Tommy is trying to keep our spirits up. I'm not sure what to do, dad. I want to ask you for help but I know I can't- Dad, We found a ravine and Tommy and I asked Techno for help winning Lmanburg back. Tubbo is on our side but everyone else still hates us. Even Fundy. I'm not sure it's still Lmanburg. Dad, It's not our Lmanburg, I don't know what they've done but it's all wrong now. It's not a community, there's no freedom. It's gone. Everything we fought and killed and died for is all gone, now. The place Fundy grew up is gone. The place my little brother gave his two lives for is gone. It's just gone. Dad; I put explosives under Lmanberg. I'm going to use them if anything goes wrong. I have it all rigged to a secret button that only I know about. I'm not sure if I can press it, or if I should. Tommy says we shouldn't. Techno doesn't care. I don't know if I do, either. Dad; I think I might be the villain. Dad; I finally got rid of my stupid uniform. I got better clothes, now. They're for me. I have my beanie, again, and I don't look like the stupid soldier who risked his life for nothing. Who died for nothing. Dad; It's okay. I'm okay. Techno is right. Techno is right, about the government. About every government. The power just corrupted them. Just the thought of it did. I held the country together for years and it all has fallen apart. They changed the name to Manberg ages ago, but it only proves my point. Lmanberg is gone. Dad I'm never sending these letters. I know I'm not. You have no idea whats happened. There was a festival. Schlatt had Techno kill Tubbo in front of the crowd. The sick bastard had him planning his own execution just to prove a point. He knew about the TNT and got rid of it before the festival even happened so nothing happened when I tried to get us out of there. We had to run away from Lmanberg again. From the mob. From Fundy. Dad; I've never been so lost. Dad; I think Eret was right. Lmanberg was never meant to be. I keep visiting the room, I even rewrote the anthem. I can't seem to bring myself to press the button, though. I died for this scrap of ground and the rights of the people there, but they killed me for it. Maybe...maybe I should return the favor. Dad; Quackity left Lmanberg. He was Schlatt's husband and vice president. He's half the reason Schlatt won. He said he made a big mistake. He said he didn't understand. He says he wants to help us take down Schlatt. I think he's a spy. Dad; Fundy said I wasn't his dad today. Dad; Everyone is joining our side and they're all lying. They're all lying, they're all spies for Schlatt. If they hated him they wouldn't have killed me. They wouldn't have supported Schlatt every day. They would have left the second the election was announced. They would have left when he changed the flag. They're just using me. They're just using Techno. Dad; I keep visiting the room. The button is always there. I still haven't pressed it. But I should. Even if we win, Lmanberg is still gone. They people that made it have all turned against eachother anyway. Dream is with Schlatt. There's nothing left here. There's no one left. Dad; Fundy said that he was being a spy the whole time. He kept a diary. He's lying. Dad; They're all lying. Dad; I've decided I should do it. I'm going to press the button. I hope it kills me. There's nothing left here anymore. I want to die with Lmanberg. Maybe then they'll stop lying. Maybe then they'll understand. -Lemon

Phil reread the last line of the last letter over and over. The others gave him privacy while he read over the letters. It was heartbreaking to see the mental breaking his son had over the loss of the country he had built for freedom. Tears were slowly running down his cheeks before he startled feeling a weight around his waist.

He looked to see the little girl hugging him tightly. “(Y/N), when did you wake up from your nap?” He wiped his tears away before giving her hug back.

“Why are you crying?” She asked instead.

“I just...I read something really sad is all. I’ll be ok, thank you for the hug, it’s already helping me feel better.” He muttered. “You...really can’t talk to Wilbur at all?”

She shook her head and he sighed. “Why?”

“I just, I want to tell him I love him too.” He smiled sadly to her.

“Sometimes he hears me when I talk about my day, I can try to tell him then.”

He kissed the top of her head. “Alright, thank you kiddo. It would mean a lot to me.”

#🍋 collab

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zathechaosgod · 3 years

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Favourite Stream Moments!

Streamed by Philza on Twitch on Wednesday 6th of January

DREAM SMP

LMANBERG IS GONNA BE GONE CRAB RAVE (i watched fundy’s stream pogggg boy went off)

“Chaos is a constant.”

THE INTRO SONG IS DIFFERENT ITS A BOP BUT IT ALSO TERRIFIES ME

“it is time for death, F the government, it is time to burn it down”

lmao techno is still testing stream

TECHNO 235K WAITING ON HIS STREAM

time to stack up while they still can

minecraft tip: infinite tall flowers from. a single flowerbush if you bonemeal it

(phil is doing this for fireworks pog)

TECHNO HAS KILLED 2600 WITHERSKELETONS

64000+ CAVE SPIDERS

ye techno grinds a bit

a visitor? nope, just a zombie at the door

the fireworks are gonna be ugly, but they’re gonna hurt and that’s what really matters

meanwhile phil is just chilling and brewing invis pots

i heard a door open and phil turns around and dream is just,,,, standing there

DREAM COMES BEARING THREE STACKS OF TNT

they’re going early?

THEYRE GONNA DESTROY LMANBERG 30MIN EARLY

lol dream attempted to talk to techno alone and techno is just like,, “phil is with me”

techno is gonna stall? while dream does redstone?

(tnt dupe???)

techno broke the prime log :0

O TECHNO BLEW UP THE RACCOONHOLE (and almost killed his villagers lmao)

forkza is gonna be loaned out again today

techno doesn’t want phil to come along??

which, fair, bc he’s only got one life

YOOOO TECHNO JUST GAVE HIM HIS LAST TOTEM AND 35 WITHERSKULLS+SOULSAND

phil is gonna be outside of the fight and just spawn withers when he sees techno’s fireworks

“efficiency five shovel just counters all of technoblade’s plans”

lmaooo techno’s got stacks of tnt from dream but nothing to light them with bc inventory management is suffering

lmao dream almost blew up the ugly house next door

lol a baby zombie just ran in

GOD APPLE POG

lol techno is bullying dream again about being homeless

according to dream techno is on a quest to make everyone homeless

f the axe of peace is still in tommy’s hands

time to move!

780K VIEWERS TECHNO HECK YES

lmao phil put away some steak bc he didn’t need three stacks and dream is just sitting there like “...i have three stacks of steak”

the three most powerful men on a server walk into the remains of the community house

“TWO FOUR SIX EIGHT WHO DO WE APPRECIATE? NOT THE GOVERNMENT”

lol dream getting lost

techno raises a good point, phil and dream are literally the only people who haven’t betrayed him yet

“we’re like the ludwig video” (meaning, they are not friends)

HOLY SH- THERES SO MANY DOGS

EVEN DREAM DIDNT KNOW ABOUT THIS MANY DOGS

the plan is: techno has so many dogs and there’s a law in l’manberg against killing pets and thus techno wins

techno’s gonna have to get back for round two when his dogs have died

INVIS DOGS WITH STRENGTH THIS IS PURE EVIL

TECHNO CANT EVEN MOVE

WTF THERES JUST THIS GIANT FRAMEWORK IN THE SKY

ITS A TNT CANON BUT LIKE A LOT OF THEM

rip to that one wolf that got suffocated

it’s time to go in lol

lol all the others are so confused bc he’s early

lmao phil is not playing at stealth very well

tommy found him already (and thus techno and his hundreds of dogs)

(lol tommy is only now finding out about the sabotage by fundy)

F TOMMY DIED

SOMEONE HIT THE DOGS

f tubbo

f quackity

phil is just potshotting people from the lmantree

only puffy is actually shooting back

ranboo is here now lmao

“NOBODY KILLS ANIMALS LIKE SAPNAP”

oh and also an enderman is now mad at phil

F TUBBO DIED TO A WOLF

niki is here!

ITS WITHER TIME BABEYYY

f the bees

EVERYONE IS SO MAD ABOUT THE BEES LMAO

THERES SO MANY WITHERS

PHIL JUST KEEPS GOING

hey the water under l’manberg is gone

tubbo just staring as phil builds withers

phil is just smiling and vibing tbh

techno is out of invis lol phil to the rescue

LMAO PHIL AND TECHNO ARE JUST VIBING WITH FRIEND IN PHILS HOUSE NOW

TEN MORE MINUTES UNTIL DREAM IS DONE

idk if there’s gonna be anything left for dream to blow up tbh

the damage is already worse than wilbur lmao

tubbo is going after phil but doesn’t know its phil lol

THE TNT IS GOING WHOOOOO

TWELVE WITHERS AND STACKS UPON STACKS OF TNT

fundy is just cackling in the back

THE ENTIRE AREA IS WIPED

THIS IS BIGGER THAN SEASON ONE

tommy’s betrayed “philza minecraft?”

hbomb and phil standing on the framework, testing each other but keeping their peace pog

THE GAME IS LAGGING

techno roasting sapnap in the middle of an emotional talk

FUNDYS CACKLES IN THE BACK

techno and tommy finally communicating but it couldn’t happen before the entire area around l’manberg was wiped away huh

techno is going after quackity again lmaoooo

phil is helping take down withers now occasionally

or at least the ones going after techno

“IT WOULDNT BE A FINAL BOSS IF I DIDNT HAVE STAGES”

it’s time for the clingy duo talk in vc2 lol

“GUESS WHO IS GENTLY GLIDING TOWARDS YOU PONK”

RIP THE LMANTREE

THREE IS GONE CRAB RAVE

THERES STILL TWO DOGS ALIVE

“...yeah that was successful”

“is everyone gone? has everyone given up?” “i mean, what’s left to protect?” “oh yeah that’s true” *looks at the craters left behind*

NIKI BURNED THE TREE LMAOOOO

WELCOME TO THE YOUNGEST ANARCHY SERVER IN MINECRAFT

phil is helping puffy take down the withers now

“oh how the turns table” “that’s going in the animatic”

why is jack manifold still fighting lmaooo

TECHNO JUST SPAWNED MORE WITHERS

“phil your property value!”

oh now you’re concerned techno

phil doesn’t even care about that house

time to farm wither stars pog?

eret is just here to farm wither stars lmao

“this is a weird way of grinding withers” facts ranboo

love the way all the chill people are in vc now (ranboo, h, eret, techno, phil, puffy)

rip the pig ig?

time to get rid of the water lol

chat is spamming to get phil to lavacast lol

“it’s not a chunk error yet you can’t leave!” hbomb lmaooo

TECHNO GOT HIS TRIDENT BACK LOL

rip the axe of peace, it might be forever gone

DREAM IS REFILLING THE TNT LOL

f jack manifold

uh oh ghostbur is in phil’s house lol

phil yoinking the enderchest and brewing stands that survived

jack manifolds house survived!

hbomb is on the anarchy side now?

f wilbur

manifoldland survived technobalde bc it’s not really a government, it’s just one dude and his house

dream is still just vibin and placing tnt lmao

LMANBERG IS GONE CRAB RAVE

tubbo and tommy are looking over the crater now lol

well, the week that there was a good build on the server has been nice

hbomb is just helping dream now lol

LMAO TECHNO IS LOOKING FOR A BELL FOR THE SELLOUT TIMER

rip friend died again, they’ll be back tho, “mf is literally immortal”

this was basically hitting the reset button after the government went bad again lol

time for a scenic shot of the crater

LMAO BBH JUST NOW LOGGED ON

*que timezone jokes*

i like the way the lanterns survived lol

aww ghostbur is in vc now and is sad that phil blew up l’manberg

ghostbur is freaking out about friend

f ghostbur watched both logstedshire and l’manberg get blown up after he build them

phil looking over the crater while ghostbur breaks down over this, then leaving the vc

oof

“things, buildings, they come and go. and be replaced. but people can’t be replaced. and i’m not losing anyone else, not to this bs.”

“SO LONG THESEUS”

sapnap and bbh are tridenting with lighting at techno while he attempted to build another wither

RIP SAPNAP HE FLEW TOO HIGH UNTIL HE GOT SNOW

“YOU KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS, THIS MAN SHORT” -techno when sapnaps nametag is glitched to be around belly button height

will they ever stop killing ponk

leave some withers and see who finds them when they attempt to rebuild l’manberg again

sapnap suggested a layer of dirt so it looks like nothing happened but that will just make the next major conflict a game of spleef

the airballoon survived!

pokimane is more holy than lmantree and is the only thing that was left safe, despite the fact that phil spawned a wither right in front of it

callahan is here pog?

“sapnap nooo just because he’s a raindeer doesn’t mean he’s a pet!”

f callahan even tho hbomb tried to save him

oof techno’s armour almost died twice during the battle

why is there a baby zombie right through the portal? lmaooooooo

fundy is following them?

lol they’ve returned to phil’s snowed-over farm

“TWO FOUR SIX EIGHT WHO DO WE APPRECIATE PHIL-ZA MINE-CRAFT YEAHHHH”

techno gained half a stack of gapples lol

TECHNO STILL HAS TWO STACKS OF WITHERSKULLS

chat is spamming ROUND 2 lmaooo

if it had been rainig techno wouldn’t even have touched the ground, with his trident + fireworks + slowfalling potions

WINNERS POV LMAO

phil gave back the god apple and totem and now they’re joking that this is gonna be the new ritual: every time they go do something techno gives him the totem so he doesn die

techno raises the good point that original wilbur would’ve loved this, just not ghostbur

TECHNO STILL HAS THE ANVIL THEY EXECUTED HIM WITH

“i think we can check off the minor terrorism part, i think we’re good”

SELLOUT TIME TECHNO IS JUST 18K AWAY FROM 5MIL

back into enemy lines to get the rest of the dogs lmao

STASIS PEARL JUST TO GET THE DOGS BACK POG

“i’m having fun with the DMCA~” -phil and techno to the tune of ymca

eret is whispering to phil? as is ghostbur

ghostbur forgot again uhoh

ALIVEBUR COMBACK SOON POG?

phil is gonna kill ghostbur again and then wilbur will be back?

this sunday?!?! 10th of january

chat is spamming techno needs him lol

“it’s fine dogs can teleport it’s one of their known properties”

IT WORKED THE DOGS ARE HERE

“so where we’re going to put the dogs?”

the dogs live in the scuffed house now pog?

even more friendly mob sounds lmao, like the villagers weren’t enough

phil will make a kennel out of hearing range whooo

lmao imagine doing this teleport thing when philza is in need and just five hundred dogs explode out when techno appears

“what army is gonna save you?” *que 400 dogs*

“nice little soft reset on the world” “mostly on their world”

rip techno thought friend was still at the cabin, not in l’manberg

lmao phil isn’t allowed to look at techno bc techno is travelling to carl and can’t show it on screen so now phil is just staring at the ground

kristin and phil will go through it and note down the gapple gangs pog!

CARL LIVES

phil has seen the new sad-ist animatic already! it’s pog (:

carl has been hidden again!

“i’m so glad i risked skeppys life to get that horse back”

lmao sam came to ask phil for help on the maze and phil was like “whatever you do, techno is gonna find a way around it”

he was right lol

LMAO TECHNO IN A TURTLE HELMET

techno watched the sad-ist premiere!

techno used to wish he was popular enough to get animated (like seananners and stuff from gmod)

if ranboo needs a place to stay he can crash with the dogs in the kennel lmao

“i already have an enderman for a roommate, i’m very accepting”

LMAO PHIL MAKING EYECONTACT WITH TECHNO THROUGH THE WINDOW WHILE HE RINGS THE BELL

techno is ending stream now sad

TECHNO HIT 854881 PEAK VIEWERS WHAT

WERE TALKING TV NUMBERS HERE

lol phil literally went up 40k with technoraid

at least 11 withers were spawned lmao

2 is more of a distraction, but 6+ and they really become a main attraction lol

techno and phil geeking out over sad-ist lmao

(same tho)

also phil aggrod edward lmao

ranboo is in vc!

chat is spamming for dadza to adopt

he offered a place to stay aww

f ranboo had a wither after him for a while

“gotta admit, first time i’ve heard crab rave during a terrorist attack”

LMAO RANBOO GETTING THE NEWS THEY HAD TWO MORE STACKS OF WITHER SKULLS

lol ranboo once stole the enchantment table from the spider grinder to the guardian farm and had to explain that to bbh

lmao phil really just explained game mechanics while everyone else was fighting for their lives yeah

i think ranboo lives here now

phil showed ranboo the stasis chamber!

sub only is on now pog

ranboo is gonna live next to the dogs now lmao

phil showed him the farm and told ranboo about his chat screaming at him for making a farm during the drama

ranboo lore: he makes enderman noises when under extreme stress

phil is gonna head off!

time to raid ranboo poggg

SNOOP DOG NEXT STREAM BC PHIL COULDNT CANCEL THE RAID

#philza #technoblade #ranboo #ghostbur #wilbur soot #mcyt #dream smp #philza livestream

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shoezuki · 3 years

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I still see people shitting on Techno for destroying L'manburg, saying how it wasn't actually corrupted and Techno is 100% in the wrong. But like, L'manburg has always been corrupted and I'm glad Techno helped with it's destruction.

Pre-L'manburg was a drug van and the territory they claimed was to keep people away from it. The walls were originally built to keep them safe from law and justice, not from war and outsiders.

L'manburg, while it was the best era, still was hella bad. It's self appointed president saw that his people didn't really listen to him, so he tried to rig an election. He failed and then when ahead to form a rebellion, forcibly take over, then bomb his own country.

Manburg's president exiled his political opponents to ensure power, killed a spy without a trail, and just didn't care for his citizens.

New L'manburg is arguably the most corrupted era of L'manburg, the Butcher Army was a group of individuals who's acted outside of the law to kill people they didn't agree with. And funny enough, everyone in that group all held a goverment position, the goverment was the Butcher Army.

They robbed one of their citizens and placed him under house arrest for refusing to sell out his friend, they dragged another citizen along with them in their crimes, and they tried to kill a man without a trail.

And I know that people want to see Techno face justice so they excuse the whole execution thing, but the dude could have at least been given seat in court to explain himself before they sentenced him to death.

There's also the argument that Techno refused to see the good L'manburg brought, but L'manburg betrayed him during he Pogtopia war, then later stole from his friend and dropped an anvil on his head. He doesn't have to see the good in country that's done nothing but harm him. And plus, the only good the L'manburg did was a ghost making the server a little prettier.

There was no economic benefit from L'manburg, no social benefit either since they all were already friends, and no real personal benefit for anyone besides the president and his cabinet. The only good that L'manburg brought was fun memories, nothing else, but even then L'manburg has far more bad memories tied to it then good so I'm not even sure if that counts.

I get the L'manburg holds sentiments value, but that doesn't exsuces it's crimes. I get that people want to defend it but all I ever see in L'manburg's defense is the same string-thin arguments being repeated. Until I see genuinely good point, I'm 100% on Techno's side, down with the goverment.

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RAT YOUR BRAIN IS HUGE I LOVE YOU NOW

lmanberg is sooooooo wild to me cuz its been woven into this ‘defying the overruling power’ and ‘fighting for freedom’ type of narrative n everyone Eats That Shit Up. wilbur did amazing on that part in making lmanberg seem as something Meaningful and Morally Just when it literally originated as. they wanted to fucking monopolize potions and make drugs and wanting to ‘keep americans out’

its core values Couldve changed. it Couldve Become about what people argue it is Now. but like. did it? like you said, the president attempted to rig the vote in his favour. then when schlatt went into power in an arguably More Democratic way (he Actually had votes technically quackity joining his votes w him isnt Wrong esp in comparison to wilbur’s methods) they became seen as the Underdogs. we got this message of them being the Rightful Rulers that they were Supposed to and Meant to be in power by virtue rather than by vote.

of course during manberg era it wasnt Good either. because like. schlatt be doin his thing. but it wasnt Ever good. when they overthrew schlatt wilbur instantly wanted to put tommy into power (then changing to tubbo) without an actual vote or say. it was like some Divine Rights kinda shit.

n the tubbo era? i think yeah it was most Blatantly corrupt as u said i cant look at lmanberg durin that n be like ‘oh well they did this one good thing’ because. there was never anything really Good.

AND YET. people want to say that lmanberg was meaningful and Good and that techno is inherently in the wrong for saying it was corrupt and needed to be destroyed. but was techno WRONG? was he wrong about being corrupt and harmful to not just himself but like. Everyone? has he Ever seen lmanberg do something just, good, and moral?

yeah like. any defenses i see in ‘lmanberg was good’ has to do with sentimentality, the Idea of lmanberg, and more like.... the entire Idea of a community coming together. which sure. but thats an Idea. that doesnt hold weight with what Actually took place.

anyways. technoblade is right down with the government anarchy stays winning

#hard boiled takes #rat anon #anon

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halfwafel · 3 years

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What i think will be *tasty* for the story on the smp now:

The relation between Techno and Phil, and Wilbur (and by extension Tommy and Tubbo) has crumbled, as showed during Wilbur’s and Phil’s conversation after Lmanberg was blown up. I’m really intrigued how the dynamics between those people will develop, especially Since Wilbur is trying to get resurrected, and it’ll probably mean he remembers everything from before again. The blowing up of lmanberg will definitely play a large part as wel. Like Wilbur said: Phil and Techno wanted to teach them a lesson. But was the lesson worth that much destruction to not only the people who they thought needed it, but also to the innocent ones?

Tubbo and Tommy have a long way to go if they ever want to go back to the level of friendship they had before. Their goals still don’t align. Yes they both want Dream dead, but Tommy’s priority is still the discs. I don’t exactly know what tubbo’s goal now is, but I think having to win discs back for someone who told you the discs were ‘worth more than you ever were’ is not gonna be good for one’s spirits. The trust isn’t back (yet). Besides, they have both told each other things in the blown up community house that were harsh but honest thoughts. Things about being a shit friend, about trust and betrayal, about the things they did (team with the other’s executioner) and did not do (visit the other after exiling him). I really hope they will cover those subjects and try to work through them together and not push them to the background. They have both been through so much but they never talk about it which is a shame because the feels that would result from it would break at least one social media platform

I want Niki, Fundy, Hbomb and maybe Ranboo and Eret to team and go fucking nuts. They are tired of all the bullshit they had to go through and I think it would be great if they continue what they have now. They have their motivation and their antagonists.

Pandora’s Vault! Use it! Lock someone up! Make 2 sides work together to break in! Besides using it to lock political enemies up, also use it to bait people, make it real personal! There is so much potential in this part and I can’t wait to see how it plays out.

I don’t know if quackity is still planning and resurrecting Schlatt but with the Wilbur resurrection as well this seems like a good time. I don’t know quackity’s motivations very well but I’m 100% sure the story that will come out of it will be a banger. Schlatt being back also brings a lot of interesting confrontations just waiting to be happening. I’d really see a Wilbur and Schlatt conversation, or a Tubbo and Schlatt one, or just basically anyone involved in that arc. It would give so much insight to the characters.

//dsmp //rp

#dreamsmp #tommyinnit #tubbo #wilbur soot #nihachu #jschlatt #technoblade #philza #yeah I’m giving up on tagging #of course this is mostly done through convo’s and combined with improv it might be very difficult #but I can still hope lmao

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astronomical-bagel · 3 years

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i'm so invested now, whAT HAPPENED ON THE LIVE? istg if anything bad happened to tommy😭

OKAY YALL SPOILERS BELOW THE CUT I WAS WATCHING MULTIPLE STREAMS AT ONCE AND I KNOW EVERYTHING IN THE ENTIRE WORLD ALSO SORRY ITS LIKE AN ENTIRE ESSAY IM WORKING THROUGH A LOT OF FEELINGS OKAY

Okay so fundy was like the first to start streaming and basically him, Tubbo, Ranboo, Quackity and some others like Niki played the games in the festival that they made and it was Fun. They also changed into their Butcher Army outfits. THEN Tommy and techno entered the smp and after some preparation they drank invis potions and snuck around the festival watching them.

The real shit happened when Dream logged on, though. He immediately started building another obsidian wall, and when the butcher army protested he showed them that the community house had been blown up, blaming it on Tommy. Tommy told techno he didn’t do this, and when Dream started telling Tubbo to give him the remaining disc, they both burst in and started defending Tommy. And -god this part hurt so bad- Tommy and tubbo started arguing, like really arguing. Tubbo said that it really was likely that Tommy blew up the community house, and Tommy called Tubbo out on never really supporting him when it mattered, and a lot of harsh words were spoken until Tommy yelled that the discs meant more to him than Tubbo ever did, and that really fucking hurt me okay, also at this point technoblade was Kinda 1v30-ing but everyone was super really focused on all the tea that was spilling so it wasn’t the most Epic Fight.

At this point, Tommy seemed to have a Revelation and realized that he didn’t like the situation he was in, that he was tired of fighting against L’manberg, so he just told tubbo to give Dream the disk. WHICH WAS A BAD IDEA AND TECHNOBLADE KNEW THAT. He told Tommy to think carefully about what he was doing and then Tommy said that we wasn’t going to be on technoblades side anymore and that he was going to fight for L’manberg. Which seems like kinda a stupid move to make on the guy who let you stay in his house when you were alone and vulnerable and also let you steal all his things and also was very rich and has a history of killing you without losing a half of a heart, but hey that’s none of my business.

Tubbo ended up giving Dream the disk, and booyyy did that man pop OFF. He just ripped into Tubbo as soon as he got it, saying he was stupid and naive and the worst president he’s ever seen, saying that that disk was the only thing in the way from him destroying Lmanberg, and he and technoblade just. Immediately teamed up and they’re going to blow up the ENTIRE place at 3pm tomorrow. So I’m scared.

Technoblade then booked it immediately after that was decided because he just announced plans to plow up an entire country, while surrounded by 30 of that country’s inhabitants who were in full netherite gear. When back at his base, he showed Dream his Many, Many supplies to make withers, (I believe about six), and they started Scheming and then techno went to the tunnels of Lmanburg to retrieve his entire army of dogs (he has SO FUCKING MANY LIKE HOLY SHIT), but the chat fucking SNITCHED and told fundy who went down to stop him. Unfortunately for him, techno is very op and killed him like. So easily. So now Fundy is down to his last cannon life, and all of Lmanburg knew that techno had killed him, so he left in a hurry.

Meanwhile, Tommy and the inhabitants on L’manberg but aside their arguments to prepare because technoblade and dream are insanely good and I think dream is canonically a god and technoblade is very, very wealthy. (I don’t think that L’manberg is gonna win if I’m being honest. Rip.) There was a couple people who might not be fighting for L’manberg, though Snapap said that Dream was one of his best friends and that he couldn’t go against him, but Tommy asked if he could try to convince him otherwise tomorrow. Quackity is now no longer a citizen of Manburg Bc something about ““I can’t commit treason if I’m no longer affiliated with this”, but they they left on friendly terms and well wishes. Niki has some reservations about working with Tommy, but I believe that they convinced her that L’manburg was more important than dealing with him.

And ohoho, Ranboo fucking went through it, man. He couldn’t decide what side he should pick because technoblade and Philza are his friends, but he also has friends in Lmanberg. He decided on protecting Lmanburg because it has more people to save. But THEN something happened (I had internet troubles. Idk exactly what went down), but he was in an obsidian box and Dream was gaslighting him, convinced him that RANBOO was the one to blow up the community house (he has memory problems so this actually Got To Him), saying that he was a traitor and making Ranboo believe in, and then at the end said he wasn’t even REAL and Ranboo thought he was going fucking INSANE and. Wow, his acting man. Hhh.

ANYWAYS IM SORRY RHIS WAS SO LONG IM STILL PROCESSING BUR IF UR INTERESTED IN BUT HOPEFULLY IT WASNT UNBEARABLE. GODDAMN THIS WAS A WILD RIDE IM STILL SO FUCKING STRESSED AND I MIGHT CRY WHEN LMANBERG BLOWS UP. BECAUSE TECHNOBLADE WILL WIN. I AM ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN OF THIS FACT. ANYWAYS RIP THISE WHO ONLY HAVE ONE LIFE LEFT.

#I’m not even gonna put the fandom tags on this is a clusterfuck #tw manipulation #spoilers #ask to tag

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stellocchia · 3 years

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Non serious Au post Wilbur revival where Tommy decides that being manipulated ain't worth it and decides to start his petty arc

So now he just goes to technos cabin every day and mines all the blocks around it, goes to the l'crater and starts filling is up with said blocks. Rinse and repeat. Because who's gonna fucking stop him? Technos in jail and Philza is a tool that can be worked around. When philza goes and gets the blocks back from the crater, Tommy can just go and get them again. And it's not like killing him is gonna do anything in the long run, Dream will bring him back anyways

The wannabe God has decided to have him live not just another day but any other day there will ever be and Tommy's gonna make it his mission to make that everyone's problem. Starting with the Antarctic commune.

They owe lmanberg a shit ton of blocks and as the only citizen left Tommy's gonna fucking make sure that debt is paid

I love this so much!

Just, after a while, Phil simply gives up because it's too much of a bother to keep doing this back and forth and he just starts moving his and Techno's house block by block. Tommy's block extraction follows him though... he's not gonna get rid of Tommy that easily.

Wilbur tries to win Tommy back over with his burger van but it doesn't work. Tommy has his carrot/wheat farm after all and that's enough. He also generally refuses to hang out with him if Wilbur doesn't help him build his communist railway that's gonna connect the entire smp with the fast-filling crater. Wilbur agrees after a while to help in his spare time just because he really could use the company.

Once Tommy is finally done filling the crater he makes it into a sort of national park, mixed in with some history stuff and a communal farm. Eret helps him out with the historical reproductions of some important monuments that Tommy wanted to recreate (a section of the original walls, a recreation of the White House, a house built in the New L'Manburg style that also has some water under it with corals and sea pickles, can't forget the sea pickles). Tubbo and Ranboo help with the communal farm and sadly part of it ends up being devoted to beetroot. Wilbur instead helps with the natural park section, mostly because it would NOT look anywhere near decent without his help...

And, after Tommy's done with his first project, he's off with the next stop in his Petty Arc! He contacts Big Law and hires him to get a lawsuit against the prison Warden going. Ponk also helps him with that one. But that's another story...

#ladycatland ask #dream smp au #tommy's petty arc #tommyinnit #long post #honestly the petty arc would still be better than the nothingness we have right now #so i they wanted to go with it right now I wouldn't complain

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