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johnnyslittleanimalblog · 3 months

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astercontrol · 4 months

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Who is your User, Program?

Well… there's no way to make this easy, really.

Several different perspectives on that complex question, "Who is your User?"… as directed toward the MCP himself.

On the Tron Wiki, both Gibbs and Dillinger are listed.

Looking for evidence of these claims in onscreen canon of the '82 movie, there's clear support for Dillinger:

I may be missing something, but I don't see any explicit claim of Walter Gibbs as the MCP's User…

...although he IS explicitly stated to be the founder of ENCOM, so it seems likely he would have been involved in writing the MCP when it was a chess program.

(His own program, Dumont, at least confirms he was there at the time.)

(Interestingly, right after Dumont says he's "old enough to remember the MCP when it was just a chess program," his next words are "He started small, and he'll end small." Someday I'll have to analyze in more depth these alternating he/it pronouns for MCP. Perhaps "it" was the pronoun used back in the Chess Days?)

The prologue of the Tron: Betrayal comic offers another perspective on MCP's creation, but this is narrated by a version of Dumont who…. seems to have vastly distorted memories of what actually happened:

"FLYNN WAS UNLIKE THE OTHER USERS. HE WAS, AND IS, A CREATOR. HE MADE ORDER FROM THE CHAOS OF ONES AND ZEROES."

…um. I think you transposed the words "chaos" and "order" there, program.

"HIS FINEST CREATION, THE MASTER CONTROL PROGRAM, REBELLED AND TRIED TO DESTROY HIM. THE MCP BROUGHT FLYNN TO THE GRID."

…setting aside the confusion of what exactly "The Grid" refers to here… even IF Kevin Flynn created the MCP, I cannot imagine anyone calling it his "finest" creation.

(Even by Flynn's own evaluation, at the time of the '82 movie, his infiltrator program Clu1 was "the best program ever written." Sorry, MCP, that sweet little User's boy is better'n you.)

But anyway.

The Tron Wiki acknowledges that Dumont's narration here is incorrect:

But we do, at least, know that Flynn interacted in some capacity with the MCP when it was a chess program:

Could he have worked on beta-testing and/or debugging the chess functions?

If not the original programmer, he may at least have been involved in development of the MCP, in some capacity.

But now let's look at the MCP's own viewpoint on its origin.

When Dillinger says "I wrote you!" this is how MCP responds:

He doesn't contradict Dillinger's claim to have written him, but he dismisses it as unimportant, in light of how far he's come since Dillinger did any of that writing.

Then, when Sark makes a similar admonishment:

This time, the MCP does contradict him, claiming he doesn't have one singular User. Rather, he considers himself a collaborative project so vast that any individual contributor is unimportant.

So, even if Dillinger and Gibbs-- and maybe Flynn-- were all involved in developing him… from his own hubris-soaked perspective, none of it even matters.

Is this the face of his original User? Who cares. He started small and he ended small.

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coupleofdays · 1 year

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I don't think it's ever specifically stated in the film, but I get the impression that Dumont and the other "Tower guardians" are supposed to represent the operating system of the ENCOM computers. They are the software that facilitates communication between Users and Programs, via input and output. Or, to use the religious analogy of the film, they are the priests that facilitate communication between gods and mortals, via prayer at the church-like I/O Tower. One of the goals of the Master Control Program seems to be to absorb these "tower guardians" into himelf, probably to make himself into the operating system that Users must use to operate their computers. Or, in other words, the MCP wants to become the one and only priest/prophet/god in his monotheistic religion.

If the ENCOM OS-12 shown in Tron Legacy is supposed to be an analogy for Microsoft Windows, then I think Dumont is an analogy for MS-DOS, the text-based predecessor. It's also likely that Dumont was created by Walter Gibbs, since they share the same actor, and perhaps it was the sucess of Dumont as an operating system that allowed Gibbs to expand his garage-created computer company into the giant corporation seen in the film (before it was hijacked by Dillinger).

I know I've written previously about my headcanon that modern Programs might not look like an individual programmer, but I'm willing to ignore that if we'd be able to see the ENCOM OS-12 "tower guardian" being played by Cillian Murphy.

#tron #tron 1982 #tron legacy #dumont #barnard hughes #cillian murphy #I really hope we get to know what Dillinger Jrs deal was

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postcard-from-the-past · 3 months

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Aviator Santos-Dumont on his Demoiselle airplane

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nih-nih · 2 months

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The English translation is getting there, Dumont is getting introduced soon and tbh, I love Ban and Maraich but Dumont, he is just so perfect, so beautiful 😭😭😭!!!

#patalliro #Dumont #patalliro manga #dumont patalliro #the beautiful criminal thief #he needs to come back to appreciate Maraich and make Ban jealous again #oh wait he just appeared in recent chapter ehe #still as beautiful as the day I met him

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oldshowbiz · 1 year

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Sandy Becker on the new Dumont station in New York

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kwebtv · 2 months

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The Stranger - DuMont - June 25, 1954 - February 11, 1955

Crime Drama (34 episodes)

Running Time: 30 minutes

Stars:

Robert Carroll as The Stranger

#The Stranger #TV #DuMont #1950's #Crime Drama #Robert Carroll

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detournementsmineurs · 2 months

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Lyna Khoudri et Brandon Vlieghe dans “L'Empire” de Bruno Dumont, février 2024.

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dunerun · 4 months

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Dumont Dunes, Ca.

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johnnyslittleanimalblog · 3 months

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140A8583-Edit by Mark Dumont

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astercontrol · 4 months

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#tron #tronblr #tron 1982 #tron uprising #dirty jokes #dumont

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coupleofdays · 10 months

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Whatever happened to Walter Gibbs?

He was the founder of ENCOM, sidelined when Dillinger rose to power, so I really wonder what happened to him once Dillinger was kicked out and Kevin Flynn took over. As far as I can tell, he isn't mentioned in Tron Legacy or in any related media, which I do think is a shame, especially considering that he's the first character who actually states the central premise of the film: That the "spirits" of those who create computer programs live on inside the computer. He was probably speaking metaphorically, but I wonder how he would react if Flynn had told him of his experiences in the digital world.

Gibbs' actor, Barnard Hughes, had unfortunately died a few years before Legacy, and considering that the character was old and gray-haired even in the 80s film, it's sadly not unlikely that Gibbs would be dead as well by the time that the sequel film is set in. I would like to think that Flynn offered him a high-ranking position in the company, and perhaps that Gibbs declined, being happy to be tinkering with hardware as a part of the laser research division. And even though Flynn apparently kept his own laser "experiments" secret from the rest of the company, even from people like Alan and presumably Lora, I would like to think that he eventually told Gibbs about it, since he might think that Gibbs would understand and appreciate the revelation that computer programs literally contain the spirits of their creators. It's the least Kevin could do for the father of both ENCOM and the digtizing laser, I think. I would also like to believe that his digital counterpart, Dumont, would live on long after Gibbs' passing, and that Flynn told him about the greatness of his User as well.