#got wank

[brienneevenstar]

when you see someone say jb shippers want jaime to kill cersei, know that they are lying, most jb shippers want jaime outta that valonqar mess.

either that or they’re talking about that one shipper the rest of the fandom has blocked or muted.

#fandom wank #asoiaf wank #got wank

[abrideofdrogons]

i seriously think people go through extra lengths to justify the use of blood magic used against targaryens because they genuinely think the targaryen women deserve to have bad things done to them as a result of them supposedly being “blood purists” or that “well, of course it happened!!  they’re all incest babies!” when there’s actually documented reasoning for several of the ““deformed”“ stillbirths that have happened.

the most prominent case is daenerys’s son rhaego, who we know was born during a blood magic ritual. mirri maz duur describes rhaego as draconic (“He was scaled like a lizard, blind, with the stub of a tail and small leather wings like the wings of a bat. When I touched him, the flesh sloughed off the bone, and inside he was full of graveworms and the stink of corruption.” AGOT Daenerys IX) which comes after mirri maz duur as performed blood magic to save khal drogo’s life. the premise is simple: only death could pay for a life. it’s easy to assume that the horse would have been enough for mirri maz duur to heal khal drogo as was originally implied, but it’s heavily implied that rhaego’s death is a result of her as well since she handles daenerys’s birth. in the book, it’s left a little more for interpretation but in the television series, mirri maz duur outright admits to killing rhaego.

it’s worth noting the other cases have viable proof of blood magic interference as well. maegor i targaryen notably struggled to produce heirs and one of his wives, tyanna of the tower, confessed to poisoning alys harroways who had birthed a child (Maegor came to see the stillbirth, he was horrified to find the boy a monster, with twisted limbs, a huge head, and no eyes. Fire and Blood: The Sons of the Dragon.) the same would go for maegor’s bride jeyne westerling (Three moons before she was due, Queen Jeyne was brought to bed by a sudden onset of labor pains, and was delivered of a stillborn child as monstrous as the one Alys Harroway had birthed.  Fire and Blood: The Sons of the Dragon.) and elinor costayne (Queen Elinor too was delivered of a malformed and stillborn child, an eyeless boy born with rudimentary wings.  Fire and Blood: The Sons of the Dragon)

the only two instances where it could be debatable whether or not blood magic was used against a child are laena velaryon who died after complications while giving birth to a twisted and malformed son and rhaenyra targaryen who lost her daughter visenya after going into premature labor. rhaenyra seems to place the blame on the greens (“She was my only daughter, and they killed her. They stole my crown and murdered my daughter, and they shall answer for it.”  Fire and Blood: The Dying of the Dragons) which is likely due to the announcement of king viserys’s death and the crowning of aegon the usurper, and part of her grief. i’ve seen some people say that rhaenyra cast black magic herself during this because she “cursed” her half-siblings but this seems a bit like victim blaming and like its just on redd//it.

these are only counting births that were noted to be “twisted” or “malformed” in some way and does not include other targaryen stillbirths since they’re not recorded to have ““monstrous”“ appearances and i think acting like stillbirths = deformation is cruel and archaic. i just think some of you twitt//er and redd//it green/stark stans can’t read!

#i literally have no idea how to tag this #asioaf #got #canon targaryens #fandom wank #got wank #asioaf wank #if you hate the targs or dany don't talk to me lol #child death / #body horror / #daenerys targaryen #maegor targaryen #tyanna of the tower #jeyne westerling #elinor costayne #laena velaryon #rhaenyra targaryen #stillbirth ment / #if i missed tagging this with something potentially triggering i do want to apologize #miscarriage / #house targaryen #pro house targaryen #alys harroway

[buttertheflame]

A List of Things To Come

*a long post*

I was on hiatus for about 5 years, but I think it's worth the risk of coming back. These are some thoughts and hot takes I've had since then up to now. My professional life is busy, but when I have the time, I'll share. Anyone interested?

Here's a preview, categorized by fandom:

A Song of Ice and Fire:

For asoiaf canon, I’ll speculate on what Jon and Val could have been, and what they could have had together, if he had not kicked the bucket. I’ll also contrast it with Jon's dreams of a life with her, and why he put the torch to it. :( Because of the root of her dislike of Mel and Shireen, I figure she will not be pleased with un-Jon.

Game of Thrones:

In GoT canon, Jon did not love Dany as much as the script suggested he would. In fact, they both failed to take responsibility for the other person. I haven't seen anyone make a statement like this before. (The PTSD is real.) But fic writers did pick up on this and tried to fix it in canon compliant stories, with a lot of success.

Supernatural:

In Supernatural s12-s14, Mary should have found her sons to be way more weird, specifically with each other. But given what we see of her in s6, her characterization is consistent. She would have, and did, ignore the red flags for an idea of family.

I’ll share approving thoughts on Sam and Dean's relationship in the final seasons, disapproving thoughts on the final season of Supernatural, and how I speculated it would either go Gencest or Destiel. We know what happened. No one walked away happy and I think the fandom was all the better for it.

Destiel is not canon. It only became a one-sided love confession. (I know there's a lot of speculation on what happened b/w the studio, the writer's room and the post-production team. Idc. Not gonna touch it.) Thoughts on how I think SPN could have made Destiel go 100% canon involve tweaking the execution and balancing out the themes of Sam and Eileen's love story, the big bad plot, and Dean and Cas's 'love' story.

Outlander:

Outlander (show-only) thoughts, foremost on Roger Mackenzie. He has vexed me from the first time he appeared on screen. I love him dearly, but he vexes me, for how he consistently affects the plot and how that defines his role among the main cast. Later on, I'll run through my favorite moments, episodes and narrative arcs.

Miscellaneous:

I'll share a list of favorite ship-centric fics I've collected over many, many, many years. (Gotta be over 10 years' worth). Along with blurbs that explain my recommendation in a non-spoilery way. Fandoms include: Harry Potter, LOTR, Supernatural, The Walking Dead, ASOIAF, Game of Thrones, Star Wars (Sequel Trilogy), The Flash, Shadowhunters [look away book fans <3], Hannibal (show-only).

I'll also post drafts of fics I never got right and never finished. Mostly GoT-canon divergent Jon/Dany fics.

Most importantly, some very dear friends have encouraged me to vent and hype up my Jonerys fic series "We Could Live Together" as I write it. It's GoT-canon divergent, but I alter some of what occurred before 6x09. Then the story re-enters book territory and moves toward ADOS conclusions. I'd also love to break down and discuss songs from the playlists when it strikes me.

This is the summary of Part 1, "A Long Way Home" (published):

After the Battle for Winterfell, Jon was captured by Bolton men then later found by Daenerys not far from Dragonstone. Their meeting blossoms into the most honest love--until Jon suddenly leaves for Winterfell, only to return to Dragonstone months later with more terrifying tales of dead men and Winter storms. When Daenerys chooses to send her armies north to fight the dead, all is certain but the matter of their bond. After the pain they'd endured, can they come together again? Or will separation be too powerful to overcome? *or* A romantic tale of choice and second chances.

This is the summary of Part 2, "Awake For Ever In Sweet Unrest" (in-progress and unpublished):

Winter has come and further fractured the realm. Yet Jon and Daenerys's betrothal and alliance is well known throughout the Seven Kingdoms. The secret that threatened to break them has made their love stronger, casting a fragrance of hope that draws to the last Targaryens all who seek refuge from political turmoil. Cersei Lannister has fled King's Landing in favor of establishing a bank in Lannisport, to guard against her deposition by the Iron Bank. Euron Greyjoy has set up a naval blockade at Oldtown, yet manages to beguile the Hightowers. And Walder Frey's sundown years threaten to pull his House into a civil war. From the Wall, Jon and Daenerys begin to wage war on the Others. Yet the age of wonder and terror, of gods and heroes, leads them and their enemies in the least expected ways. It begs the question: does all happen the way it must? *or* A romantic telling of the new War for the Dawn.

This is what I've been doing the past few years: working, (dating lol), re-reading the books and joining theory discussions on other sites. What touched my heart was readers asking for me to continue the fic series. Even as I considered it, I was conflicted. Since the show and book canon are so enmeshed, I think we were really vulnerable to being whipped and scored by D&D. But we all found ways to lick our wounds. I'm grateful we were able to become closer and stronger. I'm glad to be a part of it.

So that's my preview. If you've read this far, thank you. <3

There's more to come.

#asoiaf #asoiaf fanfic #jonerys #jonerys fanfic #otp: we could live together #jon x val #spn #mary winchester #weirdcest #outlander #got #got wank #fandom wank #amber speaks #musings #writing stuff #* #these tags are a mess #but it'll do #i'm tired just putting this post together lol

[curlspen]

“I loved Sansa until she had any autonomy and goals and wasn’t being brutalized anymore. In the books, I hope she’ll end up with the man who abused and terrorized her as a child and not be important to the main storyline in any way” 🚩🚩🚩

#‘i’m only anti show sa -‘ blocked. #anti sansan #sansa stark #sansa stark stan #got fandom #got wank #fandom wank

[thefandomstorage]

There is something absolutely hilarious about the amount of people being like “Rhaenyra is nothing like Dany!11!!!1!! Rhaenyra is nice and kind and sweet! Dany is a violent entitled tyrant who thinks the throne is her right!!!!1111!!!11!1!”

Like babes, newsflash, if you don’t like Dany, you’re definitely not gonna like Rhaenyra LOL. 

The Dance of Dragons is Rhaenyra fighting for the throne and her birthright. It’s a civil war, meaning violence is used. The dragons are used. Rhaenyra does not hold back near as much as Dany does nor is she as nice and forgiving as Dany is. 

So spare me the “Rhaenyra is nothing like Daenerys” bs. it’ll come back and bite you in the ass.

#daenerys targaryen #rhaenyra targaryen #anti dany antis #got wank #I'm laughing so hard at the people saying Rhaenyra would hate Dany #Like are you kidding? #Rhaenyra probably screaming at Dany for not using her dragons #and for consistently putting off going to Westeros to get the throne and staying in Essos #Shit Rhaenyra AND Daemon would be shouting and smacking Dany up her head #Be fucking fr right now y'all #The fandom hasn't been this funny in a hot minute

[starryrosebud]

Even Aegon,The fucking Conqueror, is not safe from Sansa and her self inserts gang🙄🤦‍♀️

#anti sansa stans #anti sansa stark #leave the Targaryen alone!!!! #leave Aegon alone #anti asoiaf fandom #got wank #they hate Dany them ship salsa with the person who is the most similar to dany🤷‍♀️ #pro dany #pro aegon the conqueror

[visenyasdragon]

damn i really dig timothee chalamet as jon. fuck kit harington and all of his four feet of height <3

#got wank #jon snow #jon snow fancast #got #ramblings

[adecila]

thank you for reminding us all of all the shit kit spit out during season 8 promo. the guy is in it for selfish reasons. i doubt it has anything to do with love for the charater or the fanbase. let’s all prepare that we will have to hear more shit excuseson why killing dany was the righteous thing to do.

Sorry for digging up all that trauma but I couldn't stand getting one more ask about how Kit WOULD NEVER DO THIS TO US and how I was overreacting 🙃

He can do whatever he wants for all I care. Like I said, thank fuck I can dissociate the love I have for jonerys and Jon from the shit he says or does.

#alice has mail #anti got #anti hbo #anti game of thrones #got wank #id rather be proven wrong than gaslit #so prove me wrong hbo i fucking dare you!!

[daenerys-targaryen]

What’s funny is you really think that passage was about Daenerys and not Jon ☹️💀

#bitch 😭💀 #what’s funny is you REALLY think I care #i crawled myself by my fingernails out of asoiaf discourse #I’m soooo not allowing myself to be sucked back into it #i want to be defined by the things that I love etc etc #anti dany bs #got wank #i guess #Long post #leah has mail #anonymous

[mutter-of-dragons]

Gods, I wish the block system in facebook worked much better because it’s SO annoying to discuss with Dany haters who absolutely love the clownery of the S8 ending.  I guess I’ll stop following certain pages again and curate most of my TL to avoid seeing these clowns. But even when I see someone saying something remotely POSITIVE about Daenerys (in a Daenerys fan page, no less), there will always be another person commenting on how much she was crazy and mad and blah blah blah.  Fuck you, man, no one wants to hear how much you dislike the character in a positive post. Learn to read the room. 

#small rant #got wank #SIGH

[brienneevenstar]

can’t wait for brienne to never get knighted in the books (like her great grandpa) and for the thinkpieces on how this means the books are not as feminist as the sh*w

#brienne of tarth #got wank

[abrideofdrogons]

“dany abused jon!!!”

HUH LOL ?????

#show only fans will make anything up #anti got #got critical #got wank #fandom critical

[mac-206]

Rate me in the comments 1-10

#big dipper #third leg #big piece #photography #massive #got wank #got wood #dick ratings

[cascigarette]

imagine thinking sam "I felt like a freak my whole life amongst my family and my peers and society as a whole" winchester isn't queer coded

#like. be serious #he got pegged in college by jess and had things awaken for him #sam winchester #spn #mine #wank for ts

[emptyportrait]

the hypocrisy of asoiaf/hotd fandom

it's actually quite funny to see how the self proclaimed "targaryenphobics" here loves aegon ii and aemond so much despite of how these two quite literally embodies every single problematic traits y'all claim to hate every other targaryen for.

they're are greedy feudal royals who started the deadliest war of westeros history because they couldn’t stomach watching a woman accending on iron throne on her own rights, commited a coup to put a serial sexual assaulter on the highest position in the realm while killing multiple lords for simply being loyal to their oaths along with numerous innocent smallfolk, violently misogynist who cannot speak of rhaenyra without calling her a whore, war criminals who murdered hundred of thousands innocents without any consequence, brutally murdered their own kin and the rightful queen in front of her son and instead of getting bashed i see people glorifying them for doing such atrocities. they are truly the inherent evil everyone accuse every other targaryens of being and are the worst targaryens of history and yet somehow they don’t get the same backlash as others.

i'd also like to point out how so many of people like to pretend as they're not targaryen or they're better than all other targaryens combined but in the next breathe the same people brag about how special the green's bond with their dragons are, how no other targaryens come close to it, nevermind that sunfyre's ashes wasn’t even cold when aegon ii disregarded him completely, demanding he must have another dragon, I'd expect different reaction from a person who as team green supporters like to say had the strongest dragon-rider bond in history. i saw some saying not even daenerys stormborn the goddamn mother of dragons can match it.

not gonna lie i'm quite surprised to see other targaryens, especially the women character such as daenerys, rhaenyra, visenya constantly being labeled as satan incarnated over the silliest reasons but never these two despicable man, they don’t even get half the hate as these ladies gets and i wonder why...

#really thought a lot about this and it still baffles me to see such blatant hypocrisy #house targaryen #house of the dragon #asoif/got #my thoughts #anti aegon ii targaryen #anti aemond targaryen #anti team green #fandom wank #daenerys targaryen #rhaenyra targaryen

[starryrosebud]

It amazes me that all the time I TRY to be calm and not despite the Eli@/Martyrell stans completely… something like this appears in front of me

I think what really shocks me is that in this Fic Robert Baratheon exist and at same time there’s “no archive warming apply”…like bitch we read the same books? Or George write another version of Agot where Robert isn’t an abuser?!! Also why ship Saint Eli@ with an abuser?! Or he won’t abuse her because she is “ladylike” “feminine” and etc?!! Also…TAKE RHAELLE’S NAME OUT YOUR MOUTH!!!!

This Tag is my villain origin story!

#asoiaf #anti martell stans #anti Martell #anti Elia stans #anti robert baratheon #anti baratheon #anti asoiaf fandom #got wank #I am a hater so what🤷‍♀️ #this fandom needs therapy #y’all project too much in background character #asoiaf fandom have to stop hating the Targaryen as if it was their only personality trait #Robert killed your martyr #wtf??? #pro targaryen #targnation #mutuals interact