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How do you think the High School Musical series/Troyella's relationship would have gone if Ms Darbus had not given Troy and Gabriella a callback?
... Good god, Anon, it has been over ten years since I watched that movie and I didn't like it at the time.
It always struck me as sanitized, knock-off, toned-down Grease.
But alright, we'll go off what I very vaguely remember.
I think ultimately the relationship wouldn't have taken off.
The thing about the musical was it brought a whole bunch of shit to the surface for both of them where they both immediately had to take a stand against their friends and what were supposed to be their main interests.
Had it not been for the musical, then Troy would have continued basketball and could have kept his singing thing on the sly, Gabriella could hang out with Troy every once in a while but would quickly be warned away against seeing him too often in public because of the status quo and "Wouldn't want to ruin your social life gurl" and Sharpay and her brother can have their... very weird dynamic and get the musical for themselves.
They'd likely remain friends but it'd be harder and harder to hang out as they have to do so pretty much on the sly as neither is invited to the other's friend group.
Nothing would ultimately push them together the way the musical would have.
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blues-valentine · 7 months
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I've always loved how when Ricky sees that Gina is back in 1x09 it directly followed the status quo chorus that might as well be s2 Ricky's theme song "stick to the stuff you know, it is better by far to keep things as they are , don't mess with the flow"
You know, while I was doing the analysis for Season 1 (x) and the song analysis for Ricky (x) I did take notice on this but I didn't want to make the post even longer so I skip it but I dont think the placement on this is random. We know they are very meticulous with Rina. The fact 108 is the episode where in Gina's absents he is able to connect with Nini over memories together as kids and go back to how things were and then, the first time he sees Gina again after is when she is singing "Stick To The Status Quo". It feels like a remainder of what he’s been trying to do with his life. And it also reminded me how one of the only featured Gina and Ricky posters that they promoted for Season 1 had them with the catchphrase "don't stick to the status quo".
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Thats not random at all. In fact, it tells their arc.
Because all Ricky has been trying to do is stick to the status quo, not allowing change to enter his life because he wants to mantain things the way things are. He wants to keep his status quo (due to his fears) and Gina represented at that moment the opposite of that. Nini was Ricky’s status quo, what he knew. Gina pushes Ricky to move forward and walk outside of it. The reason he connected with theater in the first place was because of Gina, not Nini. He thought he was just a skate rat until he was not that anymore.
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In High School Musical 2 (2007), we often see Vance Evans straightening his son, Ryan Evans’, hat. Afterwards we will find Ryan readjusting his hat to its originally crooked state. This is never talked about among the two, though both keep stubbornly enforcing their belief. This can be seen as a metaphor for Ryan’s homosexuality and his father’s desire to “straighten” him out. In this essay I will-
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quinn-pop · 1 year
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i heard it’s someone’s birthday! here’s some sketches i did trying to figure out how to draw all the sillies
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27emailsicantsend · 8 months
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did anyone else notice the secret notes in gina’s locker were written on camp shallow lake paper?
also did anyone remember that troyella did a secret note before they met up in the rooftop garden? (they also passed some other secret notes in all of the movies)
I’m not ok rn 😭😭
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mangio-formaggio · 8 months
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chad is such a clown when he bugs troy about leotards in the first movie and in then in second admits he is/was a part of track and field tream and probably wore some leotard-like uniform at one point
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lesbianmaxevans · 2 years
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WAIT
EJ sees camp as his last summer to be a kid
Gina sees camp as her summer of firsts
Ricky sees camp as a new beginning
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judasisgayriot · 8 months
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finally watching hsmtmts s4 lol, and these kids are so alien to me it’s so funny how I do not relate to the world these teenagers live in any more with their… tik toks and whatnot… like they’re sweet kids but honestly we’re miss jenn stans first and everything else second
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multifandomlover01 · 2 years
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I’ve often wondered if an actor’s other works exist in a show or movie that they’re in (like if Clueless exists in the MCU bc Paul Rudd was in it, but also is just Scott Lang, Ant Man, not an actor, not Paul Rudd). Most of these being based in a contemporary “real world” setting. Because my thinking is they can’t because it’s like: “oh, this character or actor looks like this person who isn’t a character but who just exists as a person.” I wonder if other actors played the characters, then.
Then I remember that Suite Life of Zack and Cody literally had them doing HSM and Maddie, played by Ashley Tisdale utters the line “And I don’t look like Ashley Tisdale?” It was a running joke that she couldn’t play Sharpay bc she couldn’t pull it off or she didn’t look the part or whatever, even tho she’d said some people said she looked like her, and they didn’t see it. London got the part, but couldn’t sing, so Maddie’s doing the singing from backstage. And the director said Zack kinda looked like Zac Efron, prompting the above line from Maddie. [I don’t remember the details from the ep, so sorry if I got some wrong]
They turned it into a very funny thing. Very meta.
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bisexualsharpay · 2 years
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thinking about “you can do it, just know that i believe / and that’s all i really need” and how that ties in with both troy and gabriella’s relationship and troy’s individual character arc 🥺
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scoobycool9 · 2 years
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Also, in case you all are wondering, there’s actually a very good canon reason that EJ would go to see Corbin Bleu. He probably wanted to see if he remembered him from the time the cast went to the High school musical con two winter breaks ago
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blues-valentine · 10 months
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I already know what’s going to happpen with that “love triangle” between Mack, Gina and Ricky that won’t be much of a love triangle.
Mack and Gina will share the same theater background and so the same ideas about their future. I have a feeling Mack will parallel Sharpay. Sabotage to win if necessary. I can guess he'll be a dancer just like Gina and this will make Ricky feel like he isn’t on her level and holding her back from reaching her potential. All this amplified by the fact Mack will get a major role with Gina in the movie (and they’ll be playing love interests as I previously theorized). Plus, the fact Ricky can’t publicly be Gina’s boyfriend so he will have to see Mack flirting with her but trying to keep it cool because he wants to respect Gina’s wish on being private while also supporting her future career.
I have a feeling that kiss between Mack and Gina while they’re filming the movie will be Mack kissing her unscripted because he has a crush on her (or it’s trying to sabotage them) which is why Ashlyn and Carlos seem shocked and Ricky seems annoyed. It seems like no one in theater likes the guy. This will result in an argument because Ricky wants to be able to love and be Gina’s boyfriend publicly but because they are keeping it a secret he can’t and it upsets him. It’s not because he doesn’t trust Gina but because he is feeling like he isn’t enough to bond with her in that level and Gina is going to try to stay professional and focused on the movie that she will miss the signals. This will cause a temporary blow up that ends with Ricky and Gina’s love confession. And if I want to be more specific, in that rain scene that we know it’s happening in front of the orange car.
It’s not a love triangle about Gina being confused about two guys but about Ricky feeling overcome by the idea of someone being better for Gina’s future than he is. I think he will be trying to approach it in a mature way and being supportive of Gina, putting her first and willing to step aside if it is the best for her. Tim loves his full circle moments that’s for sure.
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sharpaymybeloved · 1 year
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high school musical where everything is the same except Gabriella is the only one who realizes everyone is singing. like at first it's fine because it's at the ski lodge and auditions and of course everyone's singing, that's what you're supposed to do.
but then "Stick to the Status Quo" happens and i mean, she already looks scared, but we're supposed to believe it's because everyone is talking about her auditioning and not because they're singing. well in this universe, tho she is upset about the unwanted attention, she's more confused because why... why is everyone singing? why is everyone dancing? WHO THE FUCK CHOREOGRAPHED THIS?
also if you pay attention you'll see Taylor jump when they start singing but for the most part she just seems annoyed, so actually it's Gabriella and Taylor as the only ones who find the whole thing weird and ironic; Taylor is just so used to it by now that she doesn't give a fuck. every time they're off-screen Taylor is trying to explain how this is normal to a very confused and slightly frightened Gabriella.
also wanna add in this universe part of Gab's arc of being less shy and comfortable singing is her transition from being terrified in the cafeteria to trying this singing-on-a-whim thing as a solo to see if she can do it, to gaining full confidence from the callbacks and by "We're All in This Together" accepting singing on a whim in public
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mazojo · 2 years
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If in this season of hsmtmts if they dont reprise:
- Right here, right now
- Walk away
- Gotta go my own way
I will lose my shit
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hitlikehammers · 2 months
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a Valentine's-flavoured cuddly-loose-lipped-secret-spilling-hopped-up-on-cold-medicine!Eddie
(and his ever-devoted boyfriend Steve who he's been crushing on since high school but that part's a secret was a secret)
for @thoroughlycollected: featuring the (actually kind of horrible) way schools would sell carnations for $1 or something for Valentine's Day to anonymously deliver to your crush
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It turns out that Eddie under the influence comes in a variety of flavors.
High Eddie is languid, touchier than he’s normally prone to which is fucking saying something, and weirdly philosophical. He talks about alternate universes beyond the Upside Down as a meta-something concept. He theorizes how maybe he died in another dimension but some weird particle-subversion-something-something-whatever couldn’t survive re-sublimation in the Right-Side-Up and honestly when the big-brain bullshit skirts the edges of Eddie’s mortality Steve is here for all of none of that part, because Eddie’s heart was beating under Steve’s hands the whole goddamn time, sometimes maybe coaxed by Steve’s hands but from the moment Steve found him and Dustin to the moment he let go at the hospital he didn’t not feel Eddie’s heart beating, and he knew that not least because he would have come apart at the seams if that’s happened, he would have crumbled entirely for losing, or almost-losing, or thinking even close to losing the potential, the promise between them they’d barely skirted but that’d rooted heavy and at home in Steve’s chest already and fuck, fuck—
When Eddie philosophizes in general usually Steve just hangs on his every word, mesmerized by the beauty of him top of bottom, inside and out: somehow all Steve’s. But when his philosophizing leans toward that Steve’s own heartbeat does some weird shit that the weed can’t claim whole credit for and he grabs Eddie hard every time and kisses him until he’s dizzy with it, until they both are, until Eddie’s reduced just to blinking for at least five whole minutes and by that point High Eddie’s on to another topic altogether.
Which is for the best.
By comparison: Drunk Eddie is a lovelorn bastard, a little bit teary with it sometimes even, but always clingy and a touch extra possessive, sappier than he gets on even his most sappy days. One time he told Steve that no, he couldn’t let him go to take a piss because, and Steve remembers this word for word: there’s stardust in my body that’s in your body and that shit’s like magnets, Stevie, like magnets or whatever so my heart’s like pulled to your heart and if you go away without me ever you’ll rip my heart out—because like, a guy remembers that kind of declaration shouted into his ear over the music at a bar that’s safe enough that they’d get away with the excuse that Eddie was plastered, for the way he was hanging on Steve, but thank fuck the lighting was shitty enough that no one could see the flush on Steve’s cheeks, and thank fuck even more that no one could see his magnet-heart and how pounded something wild for the way Eddie draped over him and pressed full against his chest and nuzzled under his chin and made the kind of declarations that Steve had kinda been searching and hoping for all his life.
Drunk or not.
But then there’s another flavor, a specific one: and that’s medicated Eddie. And that Eddie, that cough-medicine-soaked-to-the-gills Eddie?
He’s an adorably giggly little fuck, is what he is.
“I’ll feel better by Saturday,” he lolls his head over to Steve’s shoulder where they sit beside one another, Eddie properly bundled in three blankets with a Sprite in hand. “Pinky-promise,” he slurs a little, but it might just be the stuffed-up nose doing the heavy lifting on garbling his words, and then fuck, of course the dipshit reaches up to seal the deal like the absolutely irresistible goofball he is, and always: snot-coated and all.
“Just rest up, babe,” Steve pulls him close with an arm around around his shoulder, dropping a firm kiss to his forehead: still warmer than Steve would like, in all honesty: “forget about Saturday,” and he means that with his whole chest, because fuck reservations and flowers and boxes of the chocolates Eddie likes best from the city—his boyfriend is sick, his boyfriend is hurting, and there is kinda not a single more important thing than that, than attending to that and making it hurt even the slightest bit less of he’s able, if it’s in his power.
“But we had,” Eddie sniffles heavily, loud and almost painful-sounding; “we had plans,” he whines, and turns toward Steve with overbright-eyes, far too watery:“our first,” he says it like it’s a heartbreak unto itself, bottom little quivering, and fuck.
Steve smiles though he hurts for Eddie right now so hard, want to take all the aching into himself it to spare this beautiful man for a fucking second, just he reaches and traces lilting patters around Eddie’s eyes, his browbone, his jaw, slow down to press soft at his lips:
“You not planning on having many more?” Steve asks soft, a little playful, a little leading: he likes to hear it, and often: that Eddie’s in this as deep and true and Steve is. For the long haul.
“All the more,” Eddie sing-songs sniffily, which is both pathetic and adorable, tugs at Steve’s heartstrings and the corners of his lips alike; “alllll of the more, Stevie-baby,” he draws out in promise, crosses his heart uncoordinated for feeling fuzzy with his cold and being fully cocooned in blankets and again: adorable and pathetic and perfect.
The man’s fucking perfect, even when he’s all stuffed-up and curled sick on the couch.
“Got you the best presents,” he adds on dreamily with a little chuckle, the high-pitched airy kind that float in the air between like bubbles; “so much better than all the other ones,” he adds kinda petulantly, pouts full around the words and maybe it’s the cough medicine, or the fuzziness Steve knows well comes with both the cold itself and the remedies to help alike; he brushes his lips against Eddie’s forehead just to be safe and Eddie giggles a little and leans full-bodied into Steve, unbalanced for the swaddling of most of his frame and that just makes him laugh all the more: he’s no more feverish than he had been, which was admittedly barely, just more than Steve liked, but: yeah.
Yeah, that’s…he kinda guesses it all could combine to have Eddie spewing kinda nonsense, and he probably should just smile and pull his boyfriend closer in his arms and cuddle him some more but he’s both curious and concerned, which turns out to be a potent mix, so:
“Other ones?”
“Mmm,” Eddie hums long and warm as he snuggles up to Steve a little closer, and Steve stretches an arm around him wholly, settles him flush to his chest: “but shh, don’t tell, okay?”
And Eddie sounds breathless, which piques Steve worry alongside the bright flush he finds on Eddie’s cheeks when he looks down: his eyes are fairly clear and…no, forehead’s still the same temperature, not clammy or anything, and Eddie’s just preening as he lazily tips his face up to receive more kisses, mostly unaware that Steve’s attentions serve any other purpose than loving on him.
And , well, no: they really don’t, it’s just the love’s multi-layered here, just now. It’s love, and it’s devotion, and it’s dedication to Eddie’s general wellbeing all wrapped into one. So: yeah.
“Swear,” Steve decides to play along, hoping for clues as to just how loopy Eddie’s ended up for one end of the sick-stick or the other; “what’s up, baby?” he draws circles over the harsh jut of Eddie’s clavicle, little massages that Eddie eats up with a dimpley grin as he sighs, back to the dreamy-tone again:
“Flowers.”
Steve buries a little smile into Eddie’s tangly tresses, because like…
“You got me flowers?”
No one’s ever really gotten Steve flowers.
“Noooo,” Eddie giggles and shakes his head under Steve’s chin as he buries closer into Steve’s chest, stretches Steve’s already mostly unbuttoned shirt out to damn well nuzzle the fuzz of curls beneath, and he makes this fucking…soft little half-whine that’s almost a purr, that vibrates straight through Steve’s ribs and his heart goddamn flutters, fucking hell—
“But that’s a great idea, can you remind Eddie tomorrow?” he pulls back with those fucking button eyes so big, as he talks about himself like he’s another person with such innocence then chuckles, burrowing against in Steve’s chest:
“I’d love to buy you good flowers, the nice kind, not the ones in a ten-gallon bucket sitting getting brown,” and his voice is all frown but…adorable, fuck, he’s such a fucking adorable drugged-up sicko, Steve can’t really handle this shit.
“And it was so sad,” he sniffles against Steve’s chest, and hell if Steve knows if it’s congestion or something like…mounting? Because he’s so sad? “The white ones, because they got brown so fast and, and,” and his words get caught up as his lungs rebel, as he sneezes, shakes from his core and Steve’s hands grab for him, tighten around him fiercely and Eddie gives into that protective instinct in Steve like clockwork, magnetic and automatic and Steve loves him so goddamn fucking much.
He presses his lips to Eddie’s temple as Eddie catches his breath and groans a little; kisses his over-warm skin just because.
“Carnations,” Eddie sniffles once he gets his bearings back enough; “are symbolssss,” he draws out long like a sloppy hiss; “of devohhh,” and he coughs a little, and pouts at being interrupted so he huffs heavier on the last syllable: “shun.”
De…devotion? Fucking…carnations?
Shit, Steve hasn’t seen a carnation, at least not knowingly; not since—
“And white ones mean pure,” Eddie rambles, all nasally but indignant anyhow, somehow; “so white carnations would be pure devotion,” and Eddie untucks himself from Steve’s chest for a second to look at him straight on with a little wobbly grin.
“You didn’t even notice, did you,” Eddie says, and there’s no sadness in it; but fuck, Steve…
Steve might fucking, like, start fucking crying.
Because he knows exactly what Eddie’s talking about, now.
“I noticed,” because it was the fucking carnations, the last time he thought about them: Hawkins High School, where they decided to hold up the horrible preteen tradition of anonymous flowers delivered for Valentine’s Day, so three people could be reminded they were the top of the fucking food chain with a pile of crushed flowers still dripping from their buckets of water, the little colored-paper tags soggy with the writing unreadable, while the rest of the school got to feel less-than when they got nothing, and Steve got more than his share even in the years after he toppled from on high in the social hierarchy, but they’d never mattered to him, they’d kinda made him feel uncomfortable. Except—and he could never explain it, but it was predictable, it happened every fucking year—in the collection of reds and pinks there was always one that stood out, all on it’s own.
A white one; Steve never even caught that they’d gone brown at the edges.
“Every year I noticed,” he exhales, and breathes Eddie in from the top of his head because, because—
Every year? Meant…meant every year. Freshman on up.
“My heart used to do this thing,” Steve murmurs against Eddie’s scalp, kinda; and yeah, it’s basically doing the same goddamn thing right now, a little trippy and dizzy and just…it’d scared him a little.
He recognizes now it’s how his chest feels when what he’s doing, where he is, who he’s with, who he holds inside tight close with him: it’s how his chest feels when what he’s doing is right.
“When I saw the white ones,” Steve whispers, and kisses against Eddie’s hair again, and again, because god; “only one person ever sent those.”
“Sometimes I’d have to run, like, hide in the gym showers so no one would know it was me,” Eddie matches his whisper, almost conspiratorial as he reaches out for Steve hand and Steve’s more than happy to meet him, to grasp tight, so tight; “hated gym, did you know that?”
“Oh, I had no idea,” Steve deadpans as he nuzzles Eddie’s hair, while Eddie goes back to nuzzles his chest, and Eddie’s breathing starts to even out and Steve thinks maybe he’s asleep, but then—
“Stevie?”
“Yeah, baby?” Steve wraps his arm around Eddie a little tighter.
“You’ll remind me about the flowers?” he asks, so goddamn soft; “wanna buy the best white carnations you’ve ever seen in your whole life.”
And Steve promises, yeah, of course—except: he kinda thinks maybe he already got the best ones years ago, again, and again.
He won’t discourage more of the very best, though, so long as Eddie’s the one next to him, handing them to him face to face, no hiding anywhere, just: them.
Pure devotion.
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leafatlaw · 6 months
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in between npmd relistens I’ve become more and more fond of the barbecue monologues song and Ruth as a character.
Because, in the meta of things, the barbecue monologue is just the latest of StarKid reoccurring gags they do every show. In every Hatchetfield musical there’s one song that isn’t from the musical, but instead exists in universe. Working boys, Santa clause goes to high school, and now, the barbecue monologues. A silly overdramatic song from a high school production of a made up play. But there’s something about this song that’s sets it apart from the others and makes it more than a meta joke:
The song actually has an importance on the story. Look I love working boys as much as the next guy, but as a whole, it serves to be the one song that’s a normal song in cannon, aka not part of the alien parasite. But beyond that, it’s supposed to be a purposely cheesy corney musical written by a guy living alone in a bunker. It’s cool but not much else.
And then the Santa clause one from Black Friday, is a call back to the original. Fans loved it so much they did it again! And it’s good, as well, it’s a fun little song. And in addition to that, it complements the shows theme, being a cash grabbing soulless movie musical, that uses the holidays to sell tickets. It’s perfect for a show which is a critique of capitalize and all it inspires! It’s thoughtful but ultimately just something to show while our two main characters get together.
So that brings us to npmd, by now it’s become a staple of the trilogy, but now the series has changed as well. The world of hatchetfield has come alive with people and places, enough to fill two seasons of nightmare time! So the song changes as well. For the first time, the song being sung has an impact beyond being sung in canon. The barbecue monologue serves as our first and finale looking into Ruth as a real character. Before this she had been nothing, but a funny side character, a really really horney nerd. But in the span of one song, we find out so much about her. She wants to be an actor singing on stage but her anxiety prevents that. She belts out a song that has nothing to do with her own life but relates to it nevertheless. The emotion she puts into “the burning of the candle”, the love of attention her and the character both share, they’re both stuck in lives they hate but are trapped in, just for once-
And unlike the character in the play, Ruth doesn’t get the chance to be middle aged and unhappy. She’s dead, in the same moment we realized she was a real person, she’s gone. And that’s why I love this song so much. What could have been a silly gag is now one of the most emotion charged songs of the musical and lets us see the character in a whole new light. anyways
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