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beloveddawn-blog · 7 months

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for @minnieposting Noel is her character I just got a thought in my head that wouldn't leave. One brief misgendering by a character that hasn't met Noel before and a gender-neutral usage of 'dude' because I feel Donovan is that sort of person.

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Noel lit up as Donovan sauntered into the arcade. They quickly shook their head, however, and then sprawled elegantly and insolently over the counter. Or at least attempted to. They actually looked a bit like a golden retriever looking for pets, but Donovan refrained from commenting on it. As cute as Noel looked when they were all fired up, that wasn’t the point of this visit. “There’s my favourite sidekick!” He exclaimed, throwing in a wink. “Whadda ya say we cause some trouble?”

“I’m still at work.” They replied thoughtlessly, then went bright red and started waving their hands in front of their face. “I… I… I… I mean, maybe. Depends on what you have in mind. I’ll see if I can pencil you in somewhere.” It was a valiant attempt to regain some dignity, but unfortunately Donovan knew better. As did Luis, who groaned dramatically in the background.

“Dunno.” Donovan replied slyly. “What’re ya in the mood for? Quick run through the woods? Explore the deepest levels of the sewers? Steal something out of the Prince’s room? Heckle Xyla? There’s all sorts of things to do around here.” His grin grew as he went on, the list getting steadily more dangerous as he continued. Noel was starting to turn faintly green, their skin shifting to match their hair as their distress bled through their own unique abilities.

Still, though, Noel was never one to back down. Donovan would have gotten bored if they had been. They slouched back against the counter behind them, hands causally tucked into their hoodie pocket to hide their shaking. Their grin shook just as much, but they offered it anyway. “That’s it? Sounds like you’ve got nothing but boring pla-AHNS.” Their voice cracked in the middle of the word, likely from fear, and Donovan felt bad for just a moment… Before entirely forgetting it happened as he surged forward, hands outstretched in an attempt to catch Noel. Noel, who had startled themselves with their own voice, slipped on the spider plushie behind them… And accidentally slid the entire collection of stuffed animals you could win at the arcade off of the counter, before falling themself and knocking over a lamp. Which then hit a vending machine. Which swayed ominously before Donovan pivoted and pushed it back into place, determined to protect Noel after his little bit of teasing had gone very wrong.

Luis groaned long, loud, and dramatically before slamming his face into the counter. “Just go.” He begged. “I’d rather deal with customers all day myself than watch one more moment of this disaster kid and their disaster flirting. Just go enjoy the carnival. ANYTHING but staying here and making my day even worse.”

Noel looked like they were about to cry, and Donovan was having none of that. Not when he’d actually come here to sweep Noel away for a little date. “Perfect, Luis, thanks. You’re a real pal.” He replied, reaching over the counter to haul Noel up by one arm. Then he used both hands to grab Noel further in the armpits and bodily haul them over the counter only to tuck them under one arm. “See ya around!” Then he turned on his heel and steered Noel right out of the arcade, ignoring how they flushed some odd magenta-violet colour rather than a normal red. Once outside he steered them off to the side and grabbed them a cotton candy. “Good job ditching work.” He commented, choosing to act like Noel had done it on purpose to make Luis be the one to kick him out. Plausible deniability and all that. “I’ve heard Luis make some pretty good ‘done with people’ sounds before, but this one really took the cake. You’ve got a real talent there.”

Noel blushed and hid their face with the cotton candy. Donovan wisely chose not to tell them they’d gotten it on their forehead.

Okay, look, Donvan knew Noel thought he was the coolest thing to ever call Withergate home. He knew that. It didn’t mean he didn’t want to show off for them sometimes, though. It was one thing to just feel that adoring gaze on him, but another thing entirely to turn towards it in triumph and bask in it. He wasn’t really going to take Noel into the forest, though. Or the depths of the sewers. Mortal peril wasn’t actually date material, exhilarating as it could be. And Donvan trusted himself to keep them both safe, but it would still stress Noel out a bit. So, on to the next best thing: the carnival! He could show off to his heart’s content in a safe environment and bask in Noel’s delight, feed them and send them home with a smile on their face. It was a great plan!

Donovan stepped back as P.A.M. lit up in delight and announced his score for the whole carnival to hear. He hadn’t quite unseated the High Score (and where a farmer of all things had learned to fight like that…) but it had been impressive nonetheless. He’d even impressed himself, he’d been so focussed on showing off. Riding high on his victory and the starstruck awe in Noel’s eyes, Donovan made the mistake that would set the tone for the night. “Whadda ya say, Noel? Wanna give it a try?”

“Sure!” They chirped, stepping gamely up to the machine. Donovan could see the slight tremors of nerves in their shoulders, but Noel had more guts than most and never backed down. They looked at the machine for a moment before shifting their hands to match Donovan’s claws (and watching flesh flow like that was always going to be just as freaky as it was freaking awesome, he loved this strange little dude so much) and settled into a poor imitation of a fighting stance. Before he could correct them, however, the dummy appeared.

Noel startled, took a swipe, overbalanced because their hands were now a different shape than expected, fell forward, and smashed their face into the dummy.

Donovan shot forward to get a hold of them, ignoring P.A.M. shutting down the game and informing him he’d gotten Noel disqualified. There was blood on Noel’s face.

Oh, not a lot, which was a great thing to discover, but enough that Donovan could smell it, and it was distressing. He’d never actually smelled anything like it before and even though it wasn’t unpleasant he never wanted to smell it again because it meant Noel’s blood was outside of their body!

Noel, for their part, just looked up at him dazedly, then gave a soft, “Oh,” and shifted their nose around a bit to heal it. Which was super cool to know, but also not what you wanted to have happen on a date. And shapeshifting couldn’t deal with the little goose egg forming on Noel’s hairline. They shook their head decisively, however, when Donovan suggested he just walk them home. “I still wanna hang out with you,” they insisted. “We had plans.”

Which… they sort of didn’t. This had been a whim. Still, Donovan was totally wrapped around Noel’s fingers and also still wanted to hang out, so they did.

It did not improve from there.

“So, chap, what’s your guess? Was it 21, 27, or 39?”

Noel blinked slowly at Chauncy, obviously trying to parse the question. “35,” they replied decisively.

Now it was Chauncy’s turn to blink. “Thirty… five. That’s… not an option, kid.”

Noel nodded seriously. “And a half.”

Benny laid the cards out in front of them. They were playing as a team, so Donovan pointed to one and Noel pointed to a second. The cards didn’t match, so Noel looked seriously back at the ghost before saying, “Go fish.”

They didn’t even get to try the hat game. The critter appeared and Noel squeaked in delight before turning themselves into one, chittering back and forth with it animatedly.

Jet banned them. Donovan couldn’t stop laughing.

The ferris wheel was the pinnacle achievement of the celebrated architect Xyla and by far the most interesting part of the Withergate skyline… And Donovan really should have noted that Noel never mentioned it themselves. They didn’t tell Donovan they were afraid of heights until the second rotation, and on the third one the whole ride had to be shut down for cleaning. Donovan didn't wait for the operator to “assist them in safely disembarking”, he simply talked Noel into shifting back into a critter, tucked them in his shirt, and took off.

The last thing Noel needed after puking on the ride was to walk through the gauntlet of people also affected. Especially the ones in the splash zone.

Dugan’s Deadeye was another unmitigated disaster. Neither Noel nor Donovan owned their own crossbow, so Donovan sweet-talked Dugan into letting them borrow his crossbow to give it a try. He made a respectable showing of himself, but not enough to win. He shrugged philosophically, as he never really used a crossbow and as such, reasonably, wasn’t great at them.

Then it was Noel’s turn.

Three shots in, of course, and the string snapped. Noel yelped and flinched, and that honestly probably saved their pretty face. Nothing could save their arm, however, and the welt the string raised looked even worse than the goose egg from before. It was probably only thanks to Noel’s big sad eyes and sad whimpering that Dugan dropped his complaints so quickly. They hightailed it out of there pretty quickly too.

That was how they found themselves back in the arcade. Luis was still ignoring them completely, but that was just fine by Donovan. They were just having a calm, chill time with Donovan teaching Noel how to properly play pool (and no, it’s not just poking the ball with the stick, there is a technique to it) when Noel managed to mess up a shot badly by scooping it, causing the ball to fly off like it was trying to skip town, only to be stopped short with a loud THWACK!

Right.

Into.

The.

Prince’s.

Hand.

Prince Darius blinked slowly, taking in the scene in front of him. Donovan didn’t really hold with authority figures, but there was no denying the amount of power the other man held. And while Donovan could withstand some royal tantruming with ease, Noel was a more sensitive soul.

The Prince’s gaze shifted between the two of them for a moment before he raised one eyebrow at Donovan imperiously. Good, he thought, fiercely glad Noel wasn’t going to be taking the heat for this. They hadn’t done anything wrong, it was an accident and the Prince hadn’t even been inside when it happened, but both King Minos and Dynus ruled with iron-fisted whims. Prince Darius wasn’t usually too bad, but every now and then seemed to feel he had something to prove.

“Even for a hustle, this is awfully unfair.” He commented, his red eyes glinting with judgement. “Look at him, he can barely hold a cue!”

Donovan squared up by slouching down, fixing his own harsh gaze on his ruler. “They’re just learning,” he replied, taking care to keep the comment light. It wasn’t really unreasonable to assume he was attempting to hustle Noel, Prince Darius had seen him do similar things before, but there was something about the thought of that happening to Noel that had the wolf in him snarling. “Nothing like that’s happening here.”

Prince Darius took a closer look at Noel, and Donovan could see his features hardening as he took in the small lump on their forehead, the remnants of blood around their nose, and the edge of the red mark from the welt peeking through the loose neck of their hoodie. “Yes.” He replied, voice clipped and brittle. “I can see you’ve been taking very good care of them already today.”

Donovan drew up in affront and opened his mouth to deny it when he was beaten to his own defence by a tremulous voice he hadn’t expected would have the courage to speak at all in royalty’s presence.

“Don’t you speak to Donovan like that!” Noel insisted, coming forward to stand between them. They were easily the shortest of the three, and it was almost comical how far back they had to tilt their head to match that narrowed red gaze. “It’s absolutely not his fault that I’ve been a disaster of a person today, I just… I just didn’t sleep well. He’s been great about it, even when I messed up all his plans. And I really don’t get why you’re being mean to him when I was the one that bounced the ball up like that. That’s really unfair.”

For one full, breathless moment, Noel stood steady under Prince Darius’s flinty gaze. Donovan raised a hand towards Noel’s shoulder, intending to offer support, when the Prince softened. He still carried his arrogance like a cape, and his eyes still held their keen edge of assessment, but the defensive aggression he had set his shoulders in left, seamlessly flowing back into casual confidence. The smile he gave Noel was both smug and lazy, but there was something there that had Donovan’s hackles rising.

“I’m not judging his character, I’m judging his teaching.” He replied, speaking to Noel directly for the first time. “Come. I shall assist you with this match. You’ll need all the help you can get to stand a chance against this punk. He spends far too much time here, and it shows in his skill.”

“Excuse me?” Donovan spat out, knowing his own laughter showed in his voice, “You’re in here every single afternoon, you don’t get to judge me for my habits.”

Prince Darius raised an imperious eyebrow. “And yet I still manage to actually accomplish things in my day. It really makes one question your abilities.”

Donovan snatched his cue back up from where he had left it leaning against the table. “You go right ahead and do that,Your Highness. I’ll make sure you regret it.”

“... And I really don’t know what he was trying to accomplish with this, but he was actually nice for the rest of the game! And don’t tell him this, but he really is a good teacher. Noel improved dramatically as soon as they calmed down from their little bravery high.” Donovan griped, flopped lengthwise across his couch as he recounted the day to his friend.

Teleri hummed in acknowledgement before lifting the sword she was sharpening up to the light to check the edge. Seemingly satisfied, she set it aside and started polishing her gauntlets. “Darius trusts your judgement.” She commented offhandedly, then paused. “Well, no, ‘judgement’ is the wrong word there. As is ‘trust’. You know what, just throw that whole comment out, it doesn’t make sense.” She set her glove down on the table and pinned Donovan with an intense gaze. He ignored it. She ignored him ignoring it. “Darius doesn’t have the time to get to know all of his subjects individually. He takes his duties far too seriously for that. And he cannot be obviously invested in newcomers, it’ll make people talk and ruin what he’s planning. You have a true knack for finding the interesting ones, however, and you quickly get bored of monotony. So even if someone is interesting, if they wish to blend in and settle down you’ll get bored of them. And unlike Xyla, who has similar people skills, you’re not actually connected to Darius in any way. You don’t pay taxes, you swindle officials, and I think Cordelia would like to have you hung, but all of those are actually bonuses in Darius’s eyes. You are an excellent source of unusual skill sets and fascinating perspectives for him.”

Donovan narrowed his eyes at her. “I’m not sure how I feel about that.”

“Proud he trusts you, angry he’s using you, and uncertain about making his life simpler in this way if it has the potential to make other lives harder, probably.” Teleri replied off-handedly, going back to her gauntlets. She ignored both his sulk and his irritation, knowing she was right. “If it was King Minos I’d agree with you, nothing good is going to come of it. But Darius wants what’s best for his people. He wants Withergate to flourish. And he’s as concerned about Dynus’s influence as I am. Plus, you help him keep a finger on the pulse of who is unhappy here, so he can do things like clear out sections of the sewers or put a lock on rising housing prices.”

He digested that for a moment, before coming back to the biggest concern for him. “What does that mean for Noel?” He asked, aware that they were now firmly in the Prince’s attention.

“Probably nothing.” Teleri replied, frowning at a stubborn scoff. “He knows now that they are unique, talented, brave, and so very loyal, and he wants them loyal to him, but unless it comes to all out war between the cities, which it will not because I will never let it, he doesn't actually need Noel for anything. It goes both ways, though. If things go that thoroughly badly, he’ll be looking out for Noel just as much…because he’ll know they’re irreplaceable.”

Donovan blinked at her. “I’m not sure if that makes me feel better or not.” He admitted.

Teleri nodded at her gauntlet, seemingly satisfied. “Yeah, life’s like that. Never simple and never easy, but worth it anyway.”

#sun haven #my writing #Noel belongs to minnieposting #I hope I did them justice #Teleri belongs to me #this was meant to be funny but has instead ended up mostly soft #I hope you still get a giggle or two out of it

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welcomingdisaster · 7 months

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heavily prefer "gil-galad child of orodreth" to "gil-galad child of fingon" for many reasons, but not leasst among them is that, considering that orodreth canonically has a sindar wife, it means the last (and arguably most successful, at least for wartime kings) king of the noldor is, like, 1/8 noldor at most.

like after feanor's whole "finwë is letting vanyar quenya taint our fine speech" thing and then finarfin's sons being accused of having mixed loyalties because of their dual heritage. the last and in some ways greatest high king of the noldor having the MOST mixed heritage is poetic justice. 1/8 noldor 1/8 vanya 1/4 teleri 1/2 sindar gil-galad GO

#lena speaks #does this make sense

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lendmyboyfriendahand · 6 months

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My concept of Fingon is that he's very motivated by justice, specifically in a sense of making things fair and balanced after they have been unfair. Ideally with full restitution for the loss.

This is normally a good thing - Men who risk their lives in battle for his family are rewarded with titles and land and cool helmets; Morgoth should be killed for wrecking the peace of Valinor and killing Finwe; Maedhros should be allowed to recover in safety after Thangorodrim.

Sometimes it leads to him demanding recompense, like after crossing the Helcaraze when he asked what the host of Feanor would do to make up for their hardship. The Feanorians gave up the crown and a herd of horses and although it wasn't perfectly fair, it was a step towards fairness. Fingon doesn't like it, but with time he has learned to live with it. He's one of the victims in this case, so permitting injustice to be done to himself is actually easier in a sense; the wronged have the right to revenge and healing, but no one can force you to use your rights.

When it gets tricky though is when restitution is impossible, and even partial recompense in unlikely. Such as after Alqualonde, when the Teleri are now on the opposite side of the Sea. It itches at Fingon that he can't go and make it right; that even if he went and gave them all he had and worked for centuries he couldn't make up for it. It bothers Fingon even more that he's not even going to try, that he's just going to sit here and wait, focus on the issues in front of him and not to anything about the horrible wrong he's committed.

It would be so much easier to think of it as not wrong at all. Then he could rest easily. After all, Fingon owes Maedhros nothing for cutting off his hand, as it was necessary in order to save his life. If stealing the ships and killing elves was necessary to save Beleriand from Morgoth, might it be justified? And then Fingon would not have committed a crime that he is unable to fix, he would just have harmed people due to unavoidable circumstances. The war against Morgoth has given him a lot of practice at dealing with unavoidable circumstances where every path leads to harm, whether caused by himself or others, and he knows that it doesn't make him evil.

Fingon has to watch himself carefully not to grant forgiveness or permission for the First Kinslaying, either to himself or to his cousins. So every morning he recites a list of wrongs that he cannot make right, but that should not be accepted or forgotten.

#my writing #musings and headcanons with 0 citations #silm #fingon #my headcanons #Fingon can have an unhealthy coping mechanism. as a treat #it's better than just giving up entirely on the idea of ''justice'' or ''deserving'' because that's what he built all his ethics on

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radioactive-earthshine · 2 months

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I didn't know you were into middle Earth and it makes me happy. I am curious about a young justice au where they are all from works of Tolkien. How do you think that might be like?

Okay. Instead of wrapping my brain around the logistics of time placement for this AU this is what I would start with.

I apologize this is going to contain Tolkien terms some people are not just going to get.

I have no idea what 'age' this should be in - I would have to think on that and rework things appropriately. I wrote this from the perspective of it being in the first age but now I am not so sure if that would be entirely appropriate and the second age would be more fitting. Everything you read here should be considered brain storming, not even a rough draft.

Kon - he is going to be an Ainur hybrid. For those unfamiliar with Tolkien's works the Ainur are people that would have the closest approximation to having superpowers. In this case I feel that Kon would either be 1.) an Ainur/Quendi hybrid like Luthien or 2.) an Ainur/Orc hybrid - because it would stir up the worst drama and I like orcs so I am biased. In both cases he would have a tie to Melkor/Morgoth because if he was an Ainur/Quendi that Ainur I believe would be a follower of Morgoth. Either way, Kon is going to have to spend time being exploited while working persistently to prove that he can be trusted. This also can keep the refugee/immigrant narrative intact.

Bart - you all know damn well the only option for him is to be an Ainur, most specifically a Maiar likely under Nessa. I would imagine that he would be curious and constantly leaving the confines of Aman to see what Middle Earth is all about. Alternatively, he could be part of the select group of Ainur that just decided to stick around in Middle Earth and not depart it at all for Aman. He doesn't understand why Ainur aren't mopping up Morgoth's messes, they released him after all! Maybe he had to leave Aman and he can't go back (or feels like he can't) because he can't for xyz reason.

I do not know how to make the time travel aspect work.

Cassie - she is an elf. Most specifically she is Teleri and her family did not go to Aman. Her family with all the other Quendi that chose to remain in Middle Earth have been fighting Morgoth's dark forces for hundreds of years. They are well seasoned warriors and are deeply upset that Morgoth himself is back in the world and those damn Noldor are kicking the hornets nest with him over and over again when they had him mostly contained. Either way, because they have several hundred thousand new Noldor kin in their land diplomacy and understanding is on the forefront of her family's mind. She also secretly thinks that direct assaults on Morgoth/forces of darkness is actually the right thing to do because they have just been putting band-aids on everything for centuries. Not everyone agrees with her.

Tim - he's a man. This is not something to sneer at because the race of men in Tolkien are not really like humans today, they are their own species and other species are generally a little spooked by them. Where did they come from? Where do they go? They live so little and yet so much. They are brave and foolish. Anyway, he's been raised among Moriquendi for his entire life. He knows their ways, their language. Their fighting techniques. If he had a choice about everything he'd rather work with his hands and hold a pen than a dagger but this is the sort of life that happened. He's fond of the Khazad. Note: he could also very easily be a Numenorian and that path might translate the best for his character but again I typed this out with restrictions of the first age.

I'm going to stop there so it doesn't get too long but just with surface mind gremlins nibbling at this concept this is sort of what I have to try to make this workable.

#core four #young justice #cassie sandsmark #tim drake #bart allen #kon el #to make this au a proper au would require more work than i have time for

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hollowwhisperings · 7 months

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Justice For Celebrian: Galadriel POV

To my Ignorant Dismay, I have learned that the Injustice to Celebrian so writ into PJ's live-action film adaptions of LOTR & The Hobbit have been expanded in the latest live-action Tolkien adaption, TROP!

Where PJ's films "merely" rendered Celebrian's Great Love rather Unlikeable (putting him to blame for the failures of The Last Alliance! PAINTING HIM AS INHOSPITABLE! rendering him grim and severe!) & Un-"Yassified"... TROP has ERASED CELEBRIAN FROM EXISTENCE!

For, you see, in choosing the Lady Galadriel as their primary protagonist... Amazon decided to write out her family. Galadriel, even in the condensed version of events in TROP, would have been with her Great Love, Celeborn, for 2035 years¹ () & customs aga severalmarried. whom she met & wed AND ALL TO GIVE ARTANIS A ROMANCE WITH SAURON??? Nevermind that Galadriel only gained the epesse of "Galadriel" as an endearment from the Besotted Celeborn. Nevermind that she & he were smitten at first sight upon meeting in Doriath, becoming betrothed in wartime! Nevermind that their love story began TWO AGES AGO, by the time TROP is set!

No, the worst consequence of TROP's erasure of Celeborn is that Ongoing Grievance I hold against the live-action Tolkien Adaptions, the one for which my Agenda is named: INJUSTICE TO CELEBRIAN!

Note: Celebrian is NOT to be Mistaken for the Similarly Named "Celeborn" or "Celebrimbor".

Celebrian is Galadriel's Daughter. She & Elrond pined over each other for nearing 2000 years, not wedding until the Third Age. Celebrian bore three children: twins, Elladan & Elrohir, and Arwen.

Celeborn is the Father of Celebrian, the Husband of Galadriel. He was a Sindarin Prince of Doriath:

Celebrimbor was Galadriel's Cousin, thrice-removed. He was a grandson of Feanor, Galadriel's Least Favourite Uncle.

It is Celebrimbor who forged the Rings of Power, as unwittingly abetted by a disguised Sauron. Celebrimbor was tortured to death while keeping secret the names "Galadriel", "Cirdan" & "Gil-Galad".

Celeborn's "role" is within the Legendarium is minor yet he does serve as the vehicle for several Rather Significant Effects:

Gives Artanis a Pretty Husband to link arms with & highlight how Tall she is when introduced.

Gifts Artanis the endearment that becomes her Name thereafter: "Galadriel".

Fathers Galadriel's daughter, Celebrian, and so joins the lineage of Oropher to their House (though Celeborn's exact kinship to Oropher, Thranduil & thus Legolas is never really elaborated upon).

Becomes Elrond's Father-in-Law.

Becomes the Grandfather of the children of Celebrian & Elrond: Elrohir, Elladan... and Arwen Undomiel.

Is Rude to Gimli, prompting the Chiding of him by Galadriel & so encouraging in Gimli his Championship of the Lady of Lothlorien (though her genuine shared grief for the fate of Khazad-dum was probably more key to their quick friendship).

Becomes the Great-Grandfather of Arwen's children with King Elessar (Aragorn of the Nine Walkers).

Celeborn, Elladan, Elrohir & even Celebrian herself are "minor" characters within the Legendarium. Yet! The nature of Elves is to feel deeply for those they love: to erase them from existence is to Change those most Affected by them. Those Changed by the Loss of Celeborn, of Celebrian & her children, are some of the most plot-significant characters of the Legendarium: Artanis, Elrond Peredhel, the Kings of Numenor, the Kings of Gondor, the Dundeain & Aragorn of the Nine Walkers.

There is Greater Issues where "Galadriel/Sauron" is concerned: Artanis HATES Sauron, for VERY VALID REASONS!

Sauron's Master, Morgoth, killed High King Finwe of the Noldor (her grandfather) in the second ever death in Elf Heaven Valinor. This, alongside the Burning of The Trees & the Theft of the Silmarils, prompted the events of the Noldolante.

Artanis was no Kinslayer (the First Kinslaying was that of Feanaro's Noldor against the Teleri of Alqualonde: Artanis is a Princess of both) but, in choosing to follow the Host of Fingolfin East across the Helcaraxe, she too was Exiled from Valinor. Another reason for her to Loathe Morgoth (Sauron's Lord)... but mostly her Uncle Feanor, whom she was determined to Spite thereafter.

Upon reaching [Middle-Earth], her Uncle Feanor was long dead (killed by Balrogs, PLURAL) & her eldest cousin (Maedhros, the only Feanorion to oppose the Burning of the Ships) had been captured by Morgoth&Sauron, [tortured] by both & subsequently hung up as a gruesome ornament.

Cousin Fingon rescued Cousin Maedhros, allowing their family to behold the extent of What Had Been Done to Maedhros by Morgoth... but mostly by Sauron. This would not be the only time Sauron put one of Galadriel's immediate kin to Torment.

Artanis seems to havre absented herself from the Long Besieging of [Morgoth's Stronghold], where Maedhros acted as the First Line of Defense for Middle-Earth. Instead, Artanis settled in Doriath & became a student of its Queen: the maia Melian (Elrond's Great-Great Grandmother). She very probably became friends with Melian's daughter, Luthien (Arwen's Great-Great Grandmother, whom she is said to have greatly resembled: Galadriel & Celeborn are the likeliest source for that comparison, having known both of them). It is here, in Doriath, that Artanis met & became Smitten with the Sindarin Celeborn. Sauron's deeds would be learned by Artanis throughout the First Age, none of them Good.

All three of Galadriel's brothers were killed in the First Age by Morgoth & his foul armies (many "created" courtesy of Sauron).

Galadriel's eldest brother, Finrod, was one of the 10 members of Beren's Quest for a Silmaril (King Thingol's Impossible Brideprice for the Hand of Luthien, his daughter & Beren's Great Love): ultimately, their Quest turned to Horror & Tragedy. Sauron saw through them, bested Finrod in [Bard Battle] and imprisoned the company with some of his personally created werewolves. One-by-one was the Company maimed and devoured by these werewolves, 'til 10 became 2: Finrod & Beren, sole survivors. Finrod sacrificed himself to save Beren, Beren then rescued by a Furious Luthien & the [Divine Doggo Sidekick], Huan. Huan defeated each werewolf (including Finrod's murderer) whilst Luthien [Bard Battled] Sauron himself. Together, Doggo & Half-Maia Princess bested Sauron, stole a Silmaril from Morgoth himself & fled (greatly wounded) back to Doriath with Beren. Finrod remained Very Dead: Sauron was now a personal Enemy of Artanis.

Doriath is destroyed twice-over (Artanis & Celeborn having long since noped out for Lindon), The War of Wrath happens & half the continent sinks into the sea, Sauron dodges prosecution by hiding, hangs out in Numenor to corrupt & enthrall, flees for Mordor as the Numenorians finally catch on... and, in the third millennium of the Second Age, disguises himself as "Annatar, Emmisary of the Valar". He shows up at Lindon in disguise but is Turned Away by King Gil-Galad & his Ward, Elrond Peredhel. He goes to Eregion & is a smash success, only Galadriel realising him as "Sus".

"Annatar" (Sauron) endears himself to Galadriel's Cousin thrice-removed, Celebrimbor, the Feanorion "disowned" for his own good & thusly the only one to survive (Elrond was never officially adopted & Maglor is only technically "alive"). We Know what Happens to Celebrimbor. That is incentive for Galadriel to want Sauron dead several times over, even without taking his role in Finrod's Fate into account.

The War of the Elves against Sauron happens & Eregion destroyed: Galadriel, as bearer of Nenya, likely kept her involvement to a minimum (lest Celebrimbor's resistance be in vain).

Shortly after that War, Galadriel becomes afflicted with Sea-Longing but, as a Noldor in Exile, she cannot Sail. More incentive to rue the continued existence of Sauron. Celebrian (who's been alive for a good thousand-ish years by now) escorts her mother from the shore, through Khazad-dum and thereafter to Celeborn. They reside for a time in "Imladris", a new safehaven established by Elrond. Celebrian & Elrond meet: cue nearly 2000 years of silent pining.

The Third Age features Galadriel's gaining a son-in-law & becoming a Grandmother. She spent this Age journeying about with Celeborn, checking on the Defenses of Middle-Earth & the whereabouts of Nazgul, and then [a balrog] shows up in Khazad-dum & the nearby settlement of [Lothlorien] becomes kingless. Galadriel & Celeborn take up joint rule but refuse any crowns... in Year 2510 of the Third Age, their daughter Celebrian Sails West: she had been captured by Orcs. Orcs, of course, were created by Sauron: they were first elves, elves captured and tormented by Sauron until he could twist them to his liking.

For her brothers and Finrod especially; for Gondolin & Belereiand; for Celebrimbor & Eregion; for the fallen kingdoms of Men; for the Seven Dwarven Kings... and now, in the cruelest blow yet, for Celebrian. Galadriel would ensure Sauron's Ruin.

Yeah. Celebrian is Kind Of Important?

Footnotes

¹"Together" but not necessarily wed: they were either "long betrothed" due to customs against Wedding in Wartime (535 years at longest, postponed 'til Morgoth's defeat in The War of Wrath) or got hitched soon after meeting (at the court of King Thingol & the maia Melian, 52 years after Artanis arrived to Middle-Earth). I favour the former interpretation due to its better explanation for Celebrian's birth being "early in the Second Age" (sometimes dated to SA 300).

#tolkien crack #tolkien meta #celebrian #elrond peredhel #grandma galadriel rights #celeborn x galadriel #trop dismay #lotr film trilogy dismay #feanorian apologist undertones #house of elrond #house of finwe

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pacificgasandelectric · 2 years

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am not & will never be over the Implications of Turgon executing Eöl with No Apparent Metaphysical Consequences

bc the whole Situation is Categorically a kinslaying. a premeditated one, even! i maintain that all the murders at Alqualondë should be considered crimes of passion, and that was Still enough to get the exiles just So So Cursed; word of god gives that the kinslaying at Doriath (& then at Sirion) are the things that made the Fëanorions unworthy to hold the Silmarils, bc those very much Were premeditated, and therefore enough to mark them “evil” according to Divine Justice or whatever.

but then Turgon just straight-up kills a guy (or rather Has A Guy Killed) and the narrative presents this as like, unfortunate but Valid. the implication is thus some combination of (1) Eöl having willfully committed a kinslaying himself makes killing him ok and (2) Turgon’s being King of Gondolin makes it acceptable for him to order the execution of his subjects* (*although of course Eöl did not consider himself a subject of Turgon and, despite whatever else he may have done, I’m inclined to agree with him there)

so: “no kinslaying” is thus not a universal injunction. we’ve already seen this to some degree because obviously the Teleri, Sindar, and others who kill Fëanorian elves in defense of their homes aren’t considered Evil by either the narrative or, imo, the Valar. (i’m not sure what the Catholic equivalent is but this tallies pretty well with the jewish notion of pikuach nefesh, “preservation of a soul”, that it’s acceptable and even laudable to break a mitzvah in order to preserve human life.)

imo, Ulmo’s warning to Turgon via Tuor (however ineffective) also indicates that Turgon (and by extension Gondolin) is still in Ulmo’s good books, which you’d think willfully committing a kinslaying (even a single one) on par with Doriath or Sirion would take him out of.

so which part of the circumstances makes killing Eöl into Not a mortal sin? he’s already been subdued, so it’s not a matter of self-defense or defense of another elf, as in the cases of defenders of Alqualondë, Doriath, and Sirion. is it simply always acceptable to kinslay an elf who has themself committed a kinslaying? that’s fucked up! does Being King imbue you with Inherent Divine Acceptance of certain actions, even if another elf committing such an act would be considered a mortal sin? also fucked up! does incidentally Having Divine Favor simply extend to cover actions that would otherwise be inexcusable? well if that’s the case then it’s funny as fuck that Ulmo was like “Turgon can do as many crimes as he likes, I’ll still support him” but it’s also (you guessed it) fucked up.

was Turgon ordering Eöl’s execution a mortal sin that necessitated Turgon to either repent or die (and Then repent) in order to absolve himself? possibly. Turgon very much did die. but that possibility itself raises questions about the nature of divine punishment for kinslaying, and this post is already long enough.

#mine #silm #capital punishment apologia in MY tolkien? it’s more likely than you think!#damn this post got out of hand i just think turgon was in the wrong killing eol lmao #disclaimer: i haven’t read fall of gondolin or any of HoME yet so if any of these questions are answered in there idk and idc #for the record i spent 50 minutes writing this post bc i engage in only the most Hinged of behavior abt the silm.

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novemberthecatadmirer · 1 year

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I want a Morgoth-captured-Tuor AU

I absolutely love Tuor but

I want to see a Tuor instead of Maeglin got captured by Morgoth AU

Think about it, the two events absolutely gave BAD karma to Gondolin

Turgon pushing Eol down the wall. In many cultures it is absolutely a horrible idea to bloody your own home by murder. It stains the place and draws in bad luck.

Turgon denying Hurin help. Betraying your friend who sacrificed his people and his whole family for your city is just asking for justice-through-karma.

In canon Morgoth chose to use Maeglin the son of a Teleri or Avari outsider who got executed by the city.

I think he could also effectively use Tuor too.

I think the top 3 on his hit list were Idril, Tuor, Maeglin. Then the other lords of Gondolin.

But Idril was too wisely paranoid to leave the city, and she had no reason to.

Maeglin ended up captured because his profession made him easily accessible.

However

In another scenario

Morgoth could just… lure Tuor out with information about Hurin

The same way like how he lured out Morwen and Nienor

And we know Tuor was not okay. He could not be. He never met his parents and any of his relatives. He grew up among elves, separated from his culture and heritage. When he got in contact with mortal men again it was the people who enslaved him. He spent 4 years living in the wild and murdering random Easterlings passing by. He had this grief and trauma. He just jumped at it when Ulmo offered him the mission and decided it was his purpose of life.

Then Turgon just didn’t listen.

And now he was stuck in this city that everyone were super traumatized from Unnumbered Tears (Morgoth’s ptsd spell) and was probably drowning themselves in parties like the world was going to end the next day. And nearly nobody wanted to listen to his warning. Idril was, but she was also viewed as very paranoid.

Also we have the question “Did Tuor know Turgon rejected his uncle.” And “Did Tuor know his cousin’s fate.”

I think he did not know.

Then in a horrible alternative universe Morgoth could just… send him visions.

I do think Gondolin had Ulmo’s protection. But with Morgoth polluting the water in the North the protection was fading. (I think that was how Maeglin got captured.)

And we don’t know how much power the curse on Hurin’s family extended. Does that extend to Tuor too? I think Ulmo’s bliss was fighting Morgoth’s curse all the time.

Morgoth could just… send Tuor visions of truth. He did not even need to lie.

Morgoth could show Tuor how he missed Turin on his way to Gondolin. The idea that Tuor was in some way responsible for his cousins’ tragedy because Tuor was wary of Turin’s mad behavior and stayed away. The idea that Tuor gave up intervening because he wanted to stay safe on his trip to Gondolin. The idea that Tuor chose Gondolin over his cousin.

Then Morgoth show Tuor how Turgon rejected Hurin. Again, one of his relatives was left alone in their grief-induced madness because someone chose Gondolin over their well-being. And how could Tuor not feel that horrible survivors’ guilt.

Tuor was wise and cautious. He ask other people he trusted for advices and listened. But after seeing Turgon abandoning Hurin in his dream he tried to investigate alone and it turned out his dream was real. Then he started to keep secrets of his feelings, and he was GOOD at keeping secrets. He was a slave and he had to learn how to keep secrets.

With anything else he could ask Idril but this was Turgon, Idril’s father. And he did not want to pitch his wife against her father.

So he ended up with no one to ask.

Then Morgoth could start sending him false visions of Hurin suffering. And Tuor would believe it because all the visions before were true.

And that was how Tuor could be lured out of Gondolin.

He could be convinced he already passed over Ulmo’s warning. His mission was finished. He tried to convince people and they were not listening. What use could a mortal have in an elf city? Meanwhile his family have suffered and his uncle is there half-mad with grief running into his own misery end.

Tuor could be convinced that he should have left the city much earlier. Maybe he could save his cousins and his aunt. Instead he was enjoying his life in a safe white city date beautiful elf princess when his surviving family members were suffering. But now at least his uncle is still out there. And he must save his uncle.

And Morgoth would be waiting there for him instead.

And look… Tuor was not Maeglin he won’t crack the same way

But the issue was

Morgoth had access to the remaining people of House of Hador

Which gave him just enough of men, women, and children to threaten Tuor for the information of Gondolin

And the little “your uncle tried to play hero for that city too, and look what I could do to his family, and the city did not even appreciate his sacrifice” to salt the wound

After Morgoth was done he did not even need to return Tuor to Gondolin.

He was a lord of a small amount of people, or maybe not even a lord. (In canon it seemed that Idril made him a lord after starting to suspect Maeglin.)

Turgon would realize he left to find Hurin and he might not dare to think that he might get captured instead. He was too overwhelmed by his guilt.

Maeglin would likely be “good riddance now Idril won’t fade of grief like Luthien when the mortal man get old & die.” And “good for him, this damned city is a fucking cage especially for Men with such a short lifespan and maybe he finally noticed almost everyone were treating outsiders like some exotic animal.”

Only Idril being paranoid she was was like “oh shit fuck fuck fuck it’s Morgoth it must be Morgoth I am going to dig a tunnel to escape when everything burn in fire.”

And Gondolin would pretty much fall similar way because Maeglin and Salgant now actually had MORE reasons to convince Turgon to stay

Maeglin would not even know Morgoth would win. Being stupid the way he was he would genuinely believed they had a chance to win.

Also there’s no Tuor there urging them to abandon the city and escape.

So yeah, in the end it would still be Idril leading people escaping Gondolin

And the survivors would blame Tuor. The mortal man who deceived their princess then abandoned her and her child and betrayed the city to Morgoth.

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If you want Tuor to survive in this au

I think Morgoth might turn him into a wrath trapped in some crystal. And force him to watch the Fall of Gondolin

Or Morgoth might chain him onto his uncle’s old chair. And force him to watch the Fall of Gondolin.

The better situation would be Morgoth releasing Tuor after some years on that chair, hoping to repeat what he did to Hurin

But Tuor being the boy-who-befriended-the-slavers-dogs he REFUSED to go down the road of anger and hate (maybe he’ll befriend some wargs this round too)

And somehow became another backfired-headache for Morgoth

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Maeglin… I suspect he still had some high chance to die rolling down the wall into fire beneath.

You can actually have him survive the Fall then had everyone MAD at him for convincing Turgon to guard the city. Also the guilt of pitching a horrible decision now most of your people are dead or enthralled, your coworkers dead, your uncle dead, your best friend who supported your horrible decision rumored to be captured and forced to play music for Morgoth

Like, congratulations on not being the traitor in this timeline. But you’re still the major reason everyone died. What’s the real difference

Also, maybe he did get another chance to fight for another falling city. Yes Sirion was going to be fun. Meet your other uncles (the crazy ones) you only heard from your mother’s tales and your uncle & cousin’s angry rant. Now they are coming to kill your people and hurt your niece-in-law and the children for their stupid rocks. (What’s the point a shiny rock isn’t even that interesting.) So do you fight your crazy uncles or not.

Or maybe you steal a stupid rock but is that really a wise decision when so many of your people being depressed and traumatized were now hanging on the little bit of light of such rock to not go crazy and off themself.

Idk. There are so many chances for him to still suffer in an interesting way.

#tolkien #silmarillion #the silmarillion #silm #silmarillion headcanon #silm headcanon #tuor #idril #turgon #morgoth #maeglin #gondolin #fall of gondolin #silm fic idea #silmarillion au #silm au

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cosmic-walkers · 2 years

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i love galadriel so much but my god, the rings of power did her so much justice imo. i've always loved galadriel as a character and in the lotr/hobbit she is such an ethereal and almost angelic being. she's also very mysterious and perfect, and that is her point.

but trop galadriel shows us a very flawed, human and very organic galadriel. in a strange way, her titles, her gains and the respect she has is something she fights for. it is not something that comes with who she is, it is what she does. im not saying galadriel doesnt rightfully gain respect in the silm/lotr because she does, but a lot of her feets and greatness comes from who she is, her house, her lineage, etc. it is something that is almost owed to her because she is a royal noldor/vanyar princess. which is not bad because that is most all the elves. like most royal elves from finarfin's line follow that narrative.

but i don't think tolkien fleshed out female elves as much as he did males when it came to all they did and just why they were so great. and to me trop galadriel kind of sums that up. she isn't just a noldor-vanyar -teleri princess. she isn't just this beautiful elf who rules/watches over realms and is respected because of who she is. and again that isn't bad at all. but i just appreciate how in rings of power she is down, dirty, and has a very organic character development and growth. and we see why she is so respected. in trop she never really mentions who she is, her father, her house and that isn't really a huge part of who she is and why she wants to be respected. in trop she earns respect because she is a general and a fighter and a warrior and that is how she wants to be seen--not anything else. she also is heavily flawed which i love.

galadriel has always been an important character to me at least. and this may be funny but when i would go through bouts of depression, thinking of the lotr would cheer me up and galadriel's character is the first to come to mind. while i think tolkien had the perfect ground work trop added something that i didn't know she needed.

tl:dr i love all versions of galadriel, and trop is very intriguing

#trop #the rings of power #galadriel #silmarillion

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ao3feed-tolkien · 2 years

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Rubicon As Sin

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/oY9l2zr

by Hail_Gothmog

Celegorm, Curufin, Maedhros, Maglor, Caranthir and Finrod meet at Caranthir's on Maedhros' order because Finrod owns Celegorm and Curufin, and Maedhros is angry about it!! Finrod doesn't want to give Tyelko and Curvo away for free, that's stupid, he demands payment. Moryo has tons of money. Finrod desires more. SUSPENSE!!

Read the fic to know what happens!!!

Words: 843, Chapters: 1/1, Language: English

Fandoms: The Silmarillion and other histories of Middle-Earth - J. R. R. Tolkien

Rating: Teen And Up Audiences

Warnings: No Archive Warnings Apply

Categories: Multi

Relationships: Celegorm | Turcafinwë & Curufin | Curufinwë, Curufin | Curufinwë/Finrod Felagund | Findaráto (one sided)

Additional Tags: Deliberate Badfic, Terrible writing, You've been warned, Don't Come Sobbing Your Eyes Out, Nargothrond, Drama in Nargothrond, First Age, Justice for Teleri, Remember Alqualondë, Curufin is emotionally constipated, dark Finrod, it's all about ze money, Attempt at Humor, Crack Treated Seriously, Danger zone: mention of unrepressed heterosexual desires, Danger zone: mention of repressed homosexual desires, unbeta'ed we die like Fëanor

read it on the AO3 at https://ift.tt/oY9l2zr

#IFTTT #ao3feed #fanfic #Tolkien #JRR Tolkien #Tolkien works #ao3 #fan fiction

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lithgaeril · 2 years

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A Comprehensive & Growing Guide to Canon I Always Ignore, Canon I Definitely Have Multiple Interpretations Of, Canon I Always Adhere To, and Headcanons I Always/Almost Always Adhere To (a record in a single location for the purposes of explaining my various choices while writing fanfiction)

Note: much of what isn’t mentioned falls in the second category, it’s just not something where I regularly think about/use different versions

Also note the headcanons are all a lot longer bc they come with explanations that canon stuff doesn’t really need

Canon I Always Ignore:

Elves are fully grown before their next sibling is born

Elves are reborn as babies (I’ve heard this is contradicted across canons, but idk)

People dying of old age in the Undying Lands (my preferred version is that this is part of the reason the Valar are so passionate about keeping humans out)

Eru Iluvatar is inherently Right and Good

Elves Must have sex to marry

Canon I Definitely Have Multiple Interpretations Of:

Maeglin’s reception by the people of Gondolin

Melkor’s motivations/intent

Melkor and/or Mairon’s treatment of their own people

Aging of Half-Elves (both in terms of youth to maturity and in terms of lifespan for mortal Half-Elves)

Whether Elf ages are based on Sun or Tree years

The Valar’s perspectives & decisions regarding the world

The effects of the Oath and the Doom

Feanor’s attitude towards the world, his family, and really anything, both pre- and post- Silmarils

Actually the previous point for most of the characters in the Silm I guess. Pre- and Post- various defining events

Dragon Personalities

Canon I Always Adhere To:

All dwarves have beards

Basically everything about the Ents, the Ents were always my favorite as a kid

The Scouring of the Shire (my most read chapter)

Particular mention to that time the cops were like “here’s a list of your crimes” and Sam was like “hold on let me add a few new ones real quick”

and when he followed it up with “well if cops are required to do shitty things, you could just stop being a cop”

Also a nod to the existence of Ted Sandyman whose very small presence adds a lot to the depth of both Hobbit society and how exactly the Shire got to where it was

There is no gender discrimination among elves and very few traditional gender roles

Headcanons I Always/Almost Always Adhere To:

Celebrimbor knew who Annatar was all along, he simple believes in restorative justice to its fullest extent. He is the elf version of Bishop Myriel from Les Mis (also a very interesting coincidence of names there)

The Silmarils burn evil based on Varda’s interpretation of evil, because the source of their power to burn is her hallowing, not themselves

The Amanyar largely have a lot of prejudices, especially against disabilities (bc they’re so rare, except in Beleriand elves, and there is a very harmful attitude of victim-blaming based around the “well you could have come to Aman/you could have just not left” concept). Prejudices against other physical differences uncommon among the Amanyar (weight, scars, etc) and homophobia also exist in varying degrees across my stories. The Amanyar do not however have prejudices based on racism*, sexism, or transphobia. The latter is due to the fact that Ainur, who are considered holy, do not have strict biology/gender, so an elf exhibiting similar characteristics is considered closer to the Ainur [*re: racism - there is a lot of “my culture is the best” and there is a feeling of superiority over other species (humans, dwarves, etc), but there is not racism based on skin color or other physical characteristics]

In all 3 Kinslayings, some of the defending elves killed elves on the other side, too. Attitudes severely differ between the three

The Teleri have the most complex response bc the First Kinslaying is both more of an accident and more of a fair battle than the later two. Publicly, those who fought are hailed as heroes, and some even see themselves that way. But a lot of the Amanyar have issues with kinslaying regardless of reason, both those that did it and those that didn’t, so there is a lot of tension and judgement surrounding those who killed

The Sindar of Doriath have the lightest response to their own who killed Feanorians, as they had considered the Feanorians (and largely the Noldor in general) monstrous and inferior long before the Second Kinslaying ever happened. There’s at least one extremist lord who believes they are kin enough for the Noldor killing them to be a kinslaying but not kin enough for them killing the Noldor to be the same

The Third Kinslaying was the worst of the three - an army against a camp of refugees, some of whom were their own people - but because of that, many of the Noldor of Sirion who took up arms in defense have trouble facing what they’ve done. Old superstitions about thralls shift and grow until the survivors of Sirion have convinced themselves that the Feanorians have become/are becoming orcs, and it was therefore a mercy to kill them

Regarding the aforementioned extremist lord of Doriath, Thingol kept a council of lords as advisors, and whether they simply grew to accept his word on everything or whether he hand-picked people who agreed with him, it was a very pro-isolationist, pro-[Sindar] rights to all of Beleriand, pro-Thingol’s right to the Silmaril kind of council. This more than anything else is what causes Dior to make Bad Decisions regarding the Silmaril (on his own, I think Dior would have demanded significant reparations - reparations the Feanorians might or might not have accepted - but he wouldn’t have just ignored them)

Thranduil was a hot-headed, self-important teen/young adult around the time of the above point, who advised against the council (he was pro-Exorbitant Reparations) and was shot down as naive. He never quite lets go of the self-righteousness at the council being proven wrong, even at such high cost. He also is that much more willing to cast aside Sindar culture for Silvan when he arrives at Greenwood the Great. He truly believes the Silvan elves have a better idea of how to live than any other group of elves and does his best to assimilate. He doesn’t always succeed, but he isn’t aware of that (I saw a post once about Thranduil as more of a mascot than a king, he’s just the only one who doesn’t know that & I really like the idea; I will try to remember to link to it if I find it)

If Caranthir/Haleth happens and they have kids, their descendants’ genes are what ends up creating Hobbits

Eru Iluvatar always meant for Melkor to be the villain of his world (which is incredibly cruel and makes even my worst interpretation of Melkor at least pitiable)

Elves don’t have evolution (it simply wouldn’t work in immortal beings who have ~7 generations in ~11,000 years), so instead they will physically change to match their environment over long periods of time

Morality is not tied to species or culture. Every group has kind people and cruel people, humble people and arrogant people. Different cultures may have different interpretations of morality, but there is no such thing as inherent good or inherent evil. You can absolutely 100% have a cruel elf and a kind orc

If the sons of Feanor are released from the Halls, Caranthir is released first, not the twins. This is because he is largely considered by both the elves and the Valar to have done the least evil of the seven. While the twins have some element of innocence to them for much of the First Age, the bit where they are notably cruel during the Third Kinslaying (one of multiple versions, but one I find intriguing) kinda undermines that. Caranthir tends to get lumped in w/ Curufin & Celegorm despite not having any part in most of what they did (bc they die together? bc he’s in between them in the order of brothers? bc they all start with c? idk), but unless the Valar consider taxes more evil than murder (which I doubt), Caranthir really didn’t do all that much beyond the average Feanorian, and probably less than many of their unnamed followers. Even if the twins just participated in the Third Kinslaying normally, that’s still one more kinslaying than Caranthir did. Only exception is for Crispy Amrod.

Specific Character & Shipping Headcanons I Always Have:

Eowyn & Faramir are T4T

Maedhros and Fingon have an intimate connection beyond what either of them feel for any other being (whether romantic or queerplatonic differs from fic to fic)

Mairon cannot separate his faith/devotion to and his love for Melkor, and both of these remain his driving force from the moment he falls for Melkor until his ultimate destruction. Melkor genuinely loves him in return, but loses himself over the course of the First Age and accidentally turns their relationship unhealthy. Mairon does fall in love with Celebrimbor and (except in AUs where Celebrimbor survives) he almost turns away from his plans before one day realizing Celebrimbor reminds him of the best traits of Melkor. He takes this the worst possible way and considers his own love blasphemy and betrayal which can only be forgiven if he destroys Celebrimbor utterly. Afterwards, his feelings for Celebrimbor become twisted but do not vanish. My “Happily Ever After” stories include Melkor/Mairon/Celebrimbor

Indis fell in love with Miriel before she fell in love with Finwe

Feanor and Nerdanel genuinely never fall out of love, no matter how much anger and resentment builds (especially for Nerdanel in the wake of Everything)

Galadriel grew up thinking of herself as the Main Character of the world bc she was powerful and she knew it. Her victory in refusing the One Ring was actually achieved by her acceptance that those with great power should be supporting characters bc power is a weakness

Frodo/Sam/Rosie. That’s all.

Elrond is the first to suggest he and his brother play nice with their captors, but Elros is the first to actually get attached, something Elrond considers a betrayal for quite some time. Accepting Maglor & Maedhros took a lot of effort for Elrond, and it was a defining moment for his perspective on the world

Elwing & Earendil fall in love twice. In Sirion, they have a whirlwind romance that is encouraged by their advisors and their people who like the symbolic unification of their peoples through their young leaders. In Aman, Earendil begins to be crushed by the weight of his fate and Elwing is slowly driven to anger and madness by her position. She is put on a pedestal by her people and most of the Amanyar, but her identity is constructed entirely around her relationships to other people (her parents, her people, her husband, her sons) and she is given no tools to cope with her many losses. The pair drift apart as they spiral separately, until Elwing has a public breakdown that estranges her from the Proper and Judgemental Amanyar and Earendil is the first person to seek her out afterwards. They fall in love again, this time in a slower, more mature fashion, and slowly they learn to shape new identities for themselves with the situation they have

Thranduil married a Silvan elf

Maeglin never actually fell in love with Idril, he just thought he did. He either fell in love with some aspect of her (ex. he was kind to him when no one else was type thing), or he actually envied some of her qualities and couldn’t recognize the difference between want her and want to be her

Elenwe is some form of trans (specifics vary from fic to fic)

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