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nikox400x · 2 months

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Kung Fu Panda 4-All the budget went to the animation (spoilers)

Hey all, its me, the guy who everyday make a tour around this site but almost never talk. How are ya?

Two days ago something arrived to the cinema's screens, something that me and everyone were waiting for since 2018, the fourth film and the begginig of the new kung fu panda triology.

You know? When I sat on that theather seat with my friends to see what Dreamworks had prepared for us, I told myself; "Maybe that post I made a while ago throwing shit at what seemed like Kfp 4 was going to be was a bit hard, I hope I can come out regretting what I said that time"

And as soon as the credits ended, it was clear to me, I dont regret a shit. Maybe it was a little exaggerated, compared to what a megamind fan would think about the terrible sequel they made, but still: the film is crappy and boring most of the time. But why?

I'm going to explain some points.

1- Po? Is that you?

I don't know you guys, but i don't think the panda we knew in the end of the third film is the same as this one. Seriously, he share more comparisons with the Po from the legend of awessonless than the one from the films, maybe its a personal thing but it feels that way. At least in the beggining of the film feel like that.

And I don't know what he was thinking about when he decided to follow a thief he doesn't know at all and who tried to steal in his own palace, and that suspiciously know who is the chameleon, whose were her plans, her past, where she lived, where exacly they had to pass through avoiding all the guard inside her home, why the others thiefs of the city hate her so much... With Po's experience with criminals this is like a chef throwing water on a pan with boiling oil, it's obvious what is going to happen.

2- Zheng- Female Nick Wilde but without charisma or half of his intelligence.

I knew it from the first moment I saw Zheng's desing, the people who know me can corroborate that; her facial expressions, her tone while she talk, her animal race, her position as thief, her final when she is part of the justice same as the protagonist... it's clearer than water I think.

Everyone could say this is forgivable if she's smart, but surprise, she's not. This character is just an absurd try of this company for """"conect with infant audience""""(I don't know in what sense, I supose for the cute design, idk). But the point is, the supposed objective of the hollywood companies is give the new generetions better things than we got at their age, but what I see is laziness for write a decent scrip only for take an advantage of a known IP and make easy money. Even the children have quality standars, this is not the dragon warrior and of course this is not kung fu panda.

And talking about the dragon warrior, having our deep and lovely Tigress with her magnific development or Tai Lung back from the spirit realm... why in the hell this character exists?! Oh yeah, for being trending topic in twitter for three days. Yay...

3- The furious five and Shifu, for us : our pretty boys, and for Dreamworks: living jokes.

What made Kung Fu Panda what it is, is not the fucking panda, it's them. They're the inspiration for Po, their allies, the royale representation of kung fu and the ones which everything started with.

Po's a comic relief, and his mission is show his development in part using his humor, but the humor in this film barely works because of the lazy script. Something that even the talented Jack Black himself can't fix, beacuse his only role there is dublin his character, unlike the rest of the residents of the Jade Palace except Dustin Hoffman.

Seth Rogen (Mantis) himself even said that he wasn't even contact by Dreamworks in the first place, only for make a scream in the credits, that's sad beacause he really wanted to see Mantis on the screen. And I know and I understand that the five are expensive, but cmon, they could just simply change the voice actors and offset it with a good script but that's not the case of course. Their role in the film is being a counter for Po's constant jokes, for not to saturate the spectator with jokes, now that's not in there anymore, thank you Dreamworks.

4-The chameleoooohhn and her "motivation".

I can't say much, basically because out of her design she's nonsense. She says that because of her size, she was reyected for being a kung fu warrior.

Yeah of course but only one little thing, what about Shifu? Viper, a warrior without tips? Mantis, literally a dawn insect? Master Oogway, a TURTLE? The masters goose? C'mon even there's a fucking master chicken! Don't talk shit chameleon!

Her importance for the plot? Its almost a lie, the others villains had links to important characters; Tai Lung (with his link to Shifu's past), Shen (with his link to Po's past) or Kai (with his link to Oogway's past), all of them related to important characters. And her? To zheng's past and present I guess? But again, anyone know this character. She's like a villain from a Disney show, you know the type of villain who say a lot of things but at the end, she don't support nothing to the lore.

And her personality is like a mix of all the previous villains, and this sounds good right? HAHAH nope. Do you remember when as a child you mixed all the plasticines of all the colors to create the final color and you ended up with a color similar to poop? well that's exacly how her personality feels like.

5- Po's dads; the only reason they're there is because they ran out of characters to make the film.

The tittle itself tell everything, they don't do anything for the script in all the film, and their objective could be done since the start.

The script of the film except for the final looks like a draft which they didn't know how to complete, everyone who watch it can see it perfecly. The animation, the music and the backgrounds are the only things notable here.

6- Tai Lung and the cheapness nostalgia.

Fan service is not necesarry bad, above all if is used in a good way, they sold us Tai Lung as a miracle but his importance for the plot feels just like a Stan Lee cameo, I like Tai Lung I can say that. But this is too weak, Shen and Kai are only characters in the background who don't do nothing except being defeated or make facial expressions (I don't even joke that Shen would show respect to Po considering what we saw in the second movie, and Kai wasn't supposed to be destroyed as a spirit, what the hell is he doing here again? *sign* I'll to stop trying to make sense of this).

By the way, anyone else think that the dragon warrior role is understimated? I mean Shifu obligated Po to transfers the role to another one just because yes, i mean he only has been the dragon warrior for less than 5 years and now they want to replace him with a random. Everything just for at the end, he choosed a thief with at least 30 crimes registred and who was a traitor during the 75% of the movie.

7- The """""""""humor"""""""", except they forgot the parts where I must to laugh.

Seeing nonsense hits only beacuse yes stopped of being funny a long time ago, and no, I don't want to talk about the bunnies of the portrait because I would get sick. I had to go to the cinema drunk to endure the filler that the movie had, no joke, it was the only way to laugh at those jokes.

So I think about applying the same method as in any movie with bad jokes, ignoring the jokes. I tried to do the same thing but with the pace that the film managed, such a thing was impossible, the pace of the movie seems to be made for Tiktoker children with attention deficit. From the chaos in the quarry until Po takes the bitc... uhg fox out of prison, only 10 fucking minutes pass, all of that for what? So that you feel like the baseless information and the nonsensical plot that they tell us is of any use? they could simply make a non-canonical short and that's it, but no, yes or they were going to tell us a story written by rotten old men who spend the entire day watching Tik Tok. It's not going to be that the child who sees this doesn't get bored, we know that much today's children don't have many neurons as they say, but even to make movies for them you have to have a certain talent.

In some point at the beguining Po make a joke about the ausence of the furious five saying that at least he had them in cardboard posters, and this would be a good joke. Only if the stupid film could be prove that the franquise can do something memorable without the furious five, but again, that's not the case.

Don't have any respect for this movie, look what it had with you. I understand that it is enjoyable because of the animation but it does not go beyond that line, it destroys important things about the canon and spoils its teaching about the need for change by treating it in a terrible way.

Coclusion: KFP 4 is just another Po's adventure as Shifu says, it won't tell nothing to you or make you feel different, it's a shame but after Megamind 2 I imagined something like this. It's a dark era for film, expecially the animated one so like Scar said; Be prepare, there're worse things waiting for us.

Do you want something with real quality? You don't even need kung fu panda 1,2 or 3, for make it easy to this film let's take this marvelous example; kung fu panda: secrets of the scroll (2016). You'll say; "An animated short, this is not like-" Shhh Just watch it, you won't regret it.

If you think I'm wrong in something, just rewatch the film. And if still you aren't agreed with me, well, I respect you and I'm happy you like it. I wish I could love it as you do, but that doesn't mean that the movie isn't bad, because if you watch it with your brain on or remembering the previous movies it's terrible.

. Me? I've to write a story, I love you all. Except you, Dreamworks, I'm mad with you, expecially when you do this at the same day as Akira Toriyama's death :(

#kung fu panda #secrets of the scrolls #kung fu panda 4 #kung fu panda 2 #tigress #furious five #akira toriyama #dreamworks #po ping #lord shen #tai lung #general kai #kung fu panda 3 #the lion king

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shadowoftheraven15 · 2 months

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Lines from the Kung Fu Panda film series (+ additionals) that make me want to eat drywall

"I'm a monster! ...A monster no one wants." // "You are not a monster. You are just a little girl."

"Stop fighting. Let it flow."

"The hardcore do understand. But I can't watch my friend be killed."

"Having you in Po's life doesn't mean less for me, it means more for Po."

"...I'm already awesomely proud."

"Why did he go and save China? I know why, but why? He's just one little panda..."

"I'll be back before you can say 'noodles!" ... "...Noodles."

"My parents hated me, do you understand?!" // "They loved you. They loved you so much that having to send you away killed them."

"The young lord set out to change his fate. But what he did next only sealed it." // "Shen returned to his parents full of pride, but in their faces, he saw only horror."

"I thought if anyone could make me, not me, it was you!"

update: "I was wrong, I'm sorry! Run! Run!"

#i know some of these sound comedic without context #but trust me when i say the 'noodles' line will make you cry #kung fu panda #kung fu panda 2 #kung fu panda 3 #the first quote is from the secrets of the furious five i think

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animated-character-of-the-day · 1 year

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Today’s character of the day is: Master Monkey from Kung Fu Panda

#Monkey #Master Monkey #Kung Fu Panda #Kung Fu Panda 2 #Kung Fu Panda 3 #Dreamworks #Nickelodeon #Kung Fu Panda the series #kung fu panda: secrets of the furious five #kung fu panda monkey

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darkcrowprincess · 2 years

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Kung fu panda 4 au*Tigress and Po had a secret tea wedding ceremony. The other five find out*

Crane surprised: you guys are married?!

Viper sad wide eyes: without inviting us!

Mantis mad but not showing it: Your guys loss, would have brought great wine.

Po and Tigress:*nervous but holding hands* We wanted it private. Just for ourselves. You know how crazy everything is right now.

Monkey: *laughing* Master Shifu is going to kill you Po.

Tigress: He will not.

Crane worried: if not your dads will definitely kill you Po for not inviting them.

Po: who do think we bowed to during the ceremony?

Tigress: well them and Tai lung.

*The other five freezes, and turns to Tai Lung*

Tai Lung picking his teeth with a claw careless of the stares: I did this as an apology to my little sister.

Tai Lung smirking evil like: Plus Shifu's reaction will be hilarious.

#my quotes #I love coming up with this #kung fu panda #kung fu panda 4 #kfp tipo #tipo #movies #cartoons #secret wedding #secret tea wedding ceremony #master tigress #master po #tai lung #the furious five #tai lung hates the panda #but anything to piss shifu off #tai lung redemption arc #Plus he does see tigress as a baby sister

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firecat17 · 2 months

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I'm about to watch Kung Fu Panda 2 tonight

I've rewatched KFP 1, Secrets of the Furious Five, and the Holiday special, in that order, so my marathon is going great so far! Wish me luck!

Update: I watched it the other night and it was awesome as always! I also watched Secrets of the Masters.

#kung fu panda #kfp #secrets of the furious five #kung fu panda holiday #kung fu panda 2 #my kfp marathon #secrets of the masters

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gsmith1030 · 1 year

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Muse if you will

I'm writing a one-shot (for the collection I mentioned some time back) and I'm wondering about what activities do you see the five doing together as a team?

Let me give some context: the one shot takes place about a week or two (don't have an exact timeline) after SOTS (Secerts of the scroll). The newly appointed "four" new warriors, now dubbed "The Furious Five" were invited to stay at the Jade Palace to train in Kung Fu. The five were given some time off from training (well, time off for Tigress) and for the rest it's delayed start of official training so that the new residents would have a bit of time to aclimate themselves to the routine of the Jade Palace, and so that the new warriors can start to bond with one another, and it's a reward for thier defeat of the enemy. They decide to do some stuff together (out of the blue mind you), and I already wrote them exploring the Valley and flying a few kites together. Also of note, because this takes place about a decade before the first KFP movie, Po won't be in this one.

For the activities, let's try to keep them as close to Chinese culture as we can as I wish to add a little bit of authenticity to my one-shot collections.

Additionally, who do you personally see playing an instrument in KFP? Furious Five member of course. I personally headcannon that either Crane or Monkey would have some knowledge of instrument playing (with Viper already being an expert dancer.)

#KFP #Kung Fu Panda #the five #furious five #tigress #monkey #Crane #viper #mantis #sots #secrets of the scroll #writing #fanfiction #headcannons #kfp #kfp:sots

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drawyourweapons · 16 days

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Just One Glance

Synopsis: Set a few months after the events of the Secrets of the Scroll, and years before the events of the first Kung Fu Panda film, The Furious Five make their official debut as the new protectors of the Valley of Peace. Po, not really knowing who they are but remembers seeing them when they fought Boar together, and having enough memory to carve their action figures out of wood, sees them presented to society for the first time as masters. He is in awe of their skills and awesomeness, but one young Tigress catches his eye.

If the events of Secrets of the Scroll was about the day Po fell in love with Kung Fu, then this is about the day he started crushing on Tigress.

Based on a short script I wrote a couple years ago (or longer, I can’t remember.) You can feel free to read the script here on FF.net.

I have been wanting to create a comic or animatic for this for a long time to get it out of my head, and I finally had some time to work on it over a weekend (emphasis on 'some'), so it’s not perfect, but enough to get the idea across lol. I can’t do voices, so had to add subtitles, but if anyone is interested in adding a voice over for these characters, let me know lol. 😂 Took some liberties, too, but I hope you KFP/TiPo fans enjoy nonetheless! 🐼 🐯 🍜

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shootbangdang · 10 days

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Some datamining from the new Minecraft x Kung Fu Panda pack! These are hilarious, and perfect for stickers or emojis!!! LOOK AT THE ANIME MINECRAFT WOLVES

Think it's canon? Lol. Top to bottom:

Gongmen City

Juniper City

Lee Da Kung Fu Academy (middle right)

Panda Village

Valley of Peace/Jade Palace.

You heard right! That's Lee Da Kung Fu Academy from Secrets of the Furious Five! It's the starting location in the pack.

And some glory poses of our beloved villains.

This pack was so good! Go play it, with friends if possible.

#kung fu panda #kfp #lord shen #dreamworks #dreamworks animation #minecraft #wolf boss #boss wolf #peacock #mojang #marketplace #datamine #datamining

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a-dauntless-daffodil · 2 years

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I didnt realize how much I needed that rewrite of kung fu panda 2. I never considered how closely po's arc tied in with tigresses, and I just accepted that the goat guided him as a wise teacher, rather than tigress as someone who /knew/ him and his past deeply.

What gets me is the movie knew Tigress had that connection. It had HER be the one talking to Po on the boat, HER be the one he opened up too about finding out he was not just adopted, but maybe abandoned.

It had Tigress put aside her confusion at Po being shocked his goose dad isn't his 'dad', and take his pain seriously. No judgment. No joke. Just, understanding.

The movie even hinted at something I know know is from the Secrets of the Furious Five short- That Tigress was left at an orphanage until Shifu started training her. The movie almost has her says it, she was abandoned, she was orphaned, she was given a home.... and then the other five jump in and it's back to jokes and stuff. They aren't the ones who understand what Po's going through. She is.

AND WITH MR. PING, PO'S DAD. The movie SHOWS Tigress knew Ping adopted Po. But when Po's leaving, and Ping's so clearly upset and scared- Tigress makes a point to promise him that Po will be back soon. She clearly treats him as Po's dad, because he IS, and she also clearly values that relationship.

She doesn't have a father. Shifu took her in, but never once in the movies do address or treat each other as anything other than close student and teacher. It's hinted in the first movie that she WISHES Shifu would think of her more the way he did Tai Lung. But she doesn't have that.

So here she is again. Po, again, has something she wishes she could have. First it was being the Dragon Warrior, now, being openly loved by a doting adopted father.

And she. Is kind to Po. She HUGS him later.

He's her friend now, after all.

HER FRIEND.

If Shen's mistake was clinging to his past and refusing to see it in a different light, if Po's mistake was going down the SAME path by letting his need to discover his past nearly get himself KILLED, if Tai Lung's mistake was letting his past pain of being shaped for a destiny that was then denied him

Then Tigress is the only one of these orphans who got it right.

She accepted that she could not be like Shifu, she accepted that she could not fill Tai Lung's place in Shifu's heart, she accepted her failure to STOP Tai Lung, and she accepted, in the end, that this seemingly random person would take up the role she had spent her whole life training for. She let go of the past, for the sake of the present.

And I think that was what she said when she gave Po that hug and told him she understood him, but she couldn't watch him die.

Because he is her friend. Friends are the only family Tigress has EVER had, and instead of focusing on what she's never had she holds on to what IS here now. Shifu. The Furious Five. Po.

THAT'S WHAT PO NEEDED TO HEAR

THATS HOW HE DEFEATS SHEN

The soothsayer was WRONG, Po was never meant to beat Shen in a fight. He was never meant to do anything!

Shen killed himself! He would rather be squished by the very weapon he made for his own protection than be defeated! Than be WRONG! He was defeated by a warrior of black and white- HIMSELF.

Po overcame him when he chose not to go down the same self destructive path. THAT'S Po's win. Not the canon ball throwing.

And Tigress should have gotten him there. The Movie put in scene after scene of her in relation to Po's adoption angst, of her protecting him, of her having something to say and twice not having the time to say it.

The third time, she should have almost died making sure Mr. Ping's son would come home.

The third time, it should have just been her and Po on that little boat, no interruptions or jokes, and she should told him her story. Which is also his story.

Orphans is what they are. But WHO they are, is a choice they get to make.

Just like being the Dragon Warrior. Or, accepting that you are not the Dragon Warrior, and deciding to be his friend instead

Cue raindrop / tear catch.

I don't understand WHY the movie made so much effort to put her in Po's plot line, in such a specific way, and then..... not use her.

I don't understand why the soothsayer, who's whole emotional tie in was to Shen and his family, suddenly had to be the important person to Po.

I don't understand why, after showing how the loss of their friend broke Master Ox and Master Crocodile, and how Po doesn't get that, and how Tigress very much does...

....why he didn't get the moment of Oh when Tigress almost dies saving him. Why he didn't get a moment where he clearly sees that no, it's not just himself he's risking by chasing after his past like this. It's everything, and everyone, he has in his life NOW. Not just Tigress and the furious five, but also his dad, and oh yeah all of China too but whatever

And and and, Master Rhino's defense didn't work on the canon, got him killed

If Tigress faced off against it her style would be to attack- she doesn't take the full blow as a result but still nearly dies and at least gets SOME kind of big injury scar

So what would that leave Po to try? Po, the Kung Fu nerd?

Can't block it. Can't break it. Can't run from it forever....

So. Redirect it.

RULE OF THREE RULE OF THREEEEEE

EVERYTHING WAS SET UP IT WAS ALL COMING TOGETHER PERFECTLY

AND THEN THIS MOVIE FELT LIKE IT MADE A SHARP U TURN AND FLUNG ME FROM THE PLOT AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY

it's such a pretty and funny and cool and BEAUTIFUL film but it makes me so mad i aklsfdjfjdkjfsbfsjkfsfsnarrrrrrrrrrrrr

#KFP #KFP2 #Master Tigress #kfp tigress #Po #.#...#GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR #gr #anger born of love #grrrrr

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fangirlingfanatic · 10 days

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In honor of the beautifully written story:

Kung Fu Panda 4: One Thousand Years Of Peace by FFcrazy15 on AO3

This drawing is inspired by chapter 2 of the story.

href="https://archiveofourown.org/works/27410224"><strong>Kung Fu Panda 4: One Thousand Years of Peace

When an insurrectionist group claiming to support the true Emperor of China begins escalating their tactics in the Northern Capitol, the Emperor calls upon the Dragon Warrior and the Furious Five, who are prophesied to defeat them. However, the insurrectionists know the truth about a long-buried secret—and they have something special in mind for one particular warrior… Written in script format so you can "watch" it like a movie. Pop some popcorn, sit back, and enjoy

#kung fu panda #fanart #shifu #tigress

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justanotherwriter140 · 1 year

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Kung Fu Panda 4 - Edited

A really, really long discussion post.

It’s been a hot minute since I’ve expressed an explicit opinion on anything, hasn’t it? Actually, I don’t think I’ve ever done a hot-take post. I guess now is as good a time as any to write my first one, given our current situation...

So, the elephant (panda?) in the room: CinemaCon.

While we’ve hardly even had twenty-four hours to process this new information, I know that there are already a lot of strong opinions out there, and many of which are displeased. I don’t think I’ve seen anyone who’s necessarily happy about the news we received yesterday, and while everyone has differing reasons as to why they’re not thrilled, I think there are a lot of common factors among the skeptics. IMO, all of the concerns I’ve heard since the announcements have been understandable. Here’s a list of the most significant concerns:

Chen/Fox Warrior

A replacement for the Dragon Warrior

A villain whose “power” is (potentially) resurrecting past villains from the dead

The Furious Five and their relevancy

Director Mike Mitchell

Many fans are finding themselves confused with this alleged plot, mainly because (to put things bluntly) it doesn’t make any sense. I have a plethora of questions in regards to the second bullet alone, imagine how many I have in total!

You won’t have to imagine, actually, because I’m doing you all the favor of writing down my every thought. Strap in, folks!

First of all, who is Chen (?) and why is she relevant? While these are things that will, without question, need to be answered in the upcoming film, I’m still feeling apprehensive. Why would Po choose her as the next Dragon Warrior, a title that for three consecutive movies has been regarded as the highest possible title that any living being in this universe can achieve? What makes Chen the next Dragon Warrior, what makes her eligible? The Dragon Warrior is essentially OP at their full potential, and if we’re assuming that this title can in fact be passed on, why would Po give this power and influence to someone he meets in the same movie in which he makes the life-altering decision to seek out an heir? Why wouldn’t he at least choose someone he knows closely, rather than someone he initially doesn’t get along with (as stated in the plot description) and likely doesn’t trust? In my mind, the movie could only justify that choice with some sort of “message from the universe” making itself known to Po and telling him to choose Chen as his successor, but if that’s the road the writers end up going down, then I’d have to reiterate: why?

Backtracking for a second. We have never had any reason to believe that “another” Dragon Warrior existing is even a possibility, forget the concept of them co-existing with the current and original Dragon Warrior. Didn’t the initial significance and nuance of the title come from the fact that there is only one person who can be the Dragon Warrior, because the concept of the “Dragon Warrior” isn’t so much a title as it is Po himself? The universe (Oogway) must choose the Dragon Warrior because they are a singular being of legend. It is one person, and that person is Po. Wasn’t the point of the first film that the title ultimately doesn’t really matter because there is no “secret ingredient,” so to speak? The title doesn’t actually give Po anything. “It’s just you,” Po says, and that was the resolution.

Let’s set all of that aside for a moment, because I have a follow-up question: why in the world would Po be finding a replacement so soon? Yes, the alleged plot states that he’s been given a promotion and therefore wants someone else to fill in for him as the Dragon Warrior, but that doesn’t make sense to me. Why would Po’s new status (as something along the lines of the “Spiritual Leader/Master” of the Valley of Peace) hold him back from being the Dragon Warrior? If there’s something else behind him wanting to leave the role behind, I’m listening, but right now it feels very unbelievable. Why is he doing this so early in his life? He’s been the Dragon Warrior for four or five years at most, why is he throwing in the towel so soon? He’s young and has so much ahead of him, especially after all that he’s done. He’s built prestige and respect over the years and he’s so proud of his role as the Dragon Warrior. I’m confused!

One could make the argument that Po wants to settle down, which I’ve seen a few times on different social sites as a suggestion. However, he has shown no interest in such things in the past. He’s always excited to travel and see new things, so to see such a sudden change in attitude and priorities would likely have to be the result of a drastic occurrence. Po is not giving up his title as the Dragon Warrior, at least not with the way things are now. I’m not necessarily adverse to bold decisions being made in sequels, but this is probably too sharp of a turn for me to be okay with it.

Is it even possible for Po to no longer hold the title? If we reference what I stated earlier, about the title being not so much a title but rather just Po himself, could we even consider that Po can just spontaneously decide to not be the Dragon Warrior anymore? He was chosen by the universe; can he UNO reverse card the universe?

So many paragraphs, and I haven’t even gotten around to discussing the villain or the Furious Five. Let’s see how long I can write before my passion-induced rant starts to fizzle out!

In regards to the villain, I’m conflicted.

On the bright side, I’ve been rooting for a female villain for as long as I’ve been in the fanbase. A female villain could add something really new and fresh to the series, giving fans a new perspective and experience altogether. The only canonical female villains in the KFP universe as of right now are the Wu Sisters, who are some of my personal favorite villains to ever come out of the franchise.

Additionally, rumors suggest that the chameleon can shape-shift. The idea of a shapeshifting villain (who potentially possesses dark magic, or something similar) is admittedly really cool. In an unreleased (unfinished) discussion post, I go into detail regarding the advantages of a manipulative villain. If the chameleon is as manipulative as her shape-shifting powers suggest, she could actually be pretty interesting to watch. Of course, being me, I’d prefer emotional manipulation over anything else, but that’s still a possibility!

In the plot description, it’s stated that the chameleon has the ability to “summon” villains from Po’s past. While it’s been assumed that this is in reference to full on resurrection, there’s still some wiggle room for speculative variation. There are disagreements and conflicting information on whether or not the chameleon can actually revive Po’s former adversaries, as some claim that she has the ability to resurrect the dead (perhaps via dark magic), while others state that she simply takes on their form to mess with Po.

Let’s assume that the chameleon is legitimately able to bring back villains that Po has done away with in previous movies. Isn’t that an incredibly easy way to make it seem like Po is going to experience difficulty in defeating this movie’s opposing force? While I’ll admit that coming up with someone/something that will make Po falter and struggle was never going to be an easy task, especially at this stage, I can’t help but feel as though there’s a bit lacking in the creative department. It’s also a bit insulting, to be honest, because if this new villain has to rely on the reputations and powers of previous villains to put up a fight, then is this a villain worth paying any real mind to? Does she pose any kind of true threat?

Personally, I hope that the whole resurrection theory is false. I don’t think it would be in the best interest of anyone if the past villains were to come back in any way that’s not a flashback (even then, I’m not sure I’d see the point). In all honesty, I thought that the whole point of the villains was that they died and stayed dead. They were defeated by Po once and for all as a testament to the idea of establishing Po's character growth and journey as a person through the bad things he’s able to overcome. It’d be highly contradictory to the messages of the other films if these villains were to suddenly come back.

For a while, there were theories floating around that suggested that Kung Fu Panda 4′s villain would have some significance to Tigress. The thought process behind this follows a “villain formula” of sorts; each movie villain so far has been connected to a main character through that respective character’s past. Tai Lung was Shifu’s failed prodigy; a fallen angel archetype. Shen killed Po’s mother and led a genocide on his people in a feeble and desperate attempt to save himself from his own fate. Kai was Oogway’s former fellow warlord and brother-in-arms, seeking revenge for the betrayal he felt had been enacted upon him.

I am a full-fledged supporter of the next villain having a connection to Tigress. Unfortunately, though, it doesn’t seem likely given the information we currently have. This chameleon, from what we know at this point in time, has absolutely no connection to Po or anyone in the main cast. I’d even go as far as to say that there’s more of a reason to believe the chameleon will have a connection to Chen; mainly because I think that if Chen needs to be integrated into the main cast, that’s the way the writers are going to go. The problem with this, however, is that it doesn’t make that much sense given how significant of a character Tigress has become in the franchise.

Take everything I say with a grain of salt, though, because in truth, we really don’t know that much about our new villain. This chameleon could very well have a connection to Tigress! We won’t know until the time is right, I suppose.

I’ll use Tigress as a segue to talk about the Furious Five, because unlike in the third film and god-forsaken TV shows, they’re actually relevant here! Personally, I think that the Furious Five still have a bit to offer as characters, for found family feels and to act as nostalgic plot devices if for nothing else. I love the five, and while I can understand if the upcoming film's story doesn't call for their involvement as frequently as in KFP 1 and 2, I would still very much appreciate their presence throughout the movie instead of being totally cast aside like in the third movie.

That said, though, I have a different opinion regarding Tigress. She has always stood out as the most significant member of the Furious Five (to both the audience and Po) and has been very impactful to Po and his journey; she was especially important in Kung Fu Panda 2, during which she was shown coming out of her shell and showing something akin to affection towards Po. Their interactions were later described by Guillermo del Toro (who I believe worked on the movie as a creative consultant) as possessing “the hint of a romance.” Whether or not the fourth movie will decide to capitalize on this idea is fully up in the air. It’s been stated by former directors that the theme of romance in KFP would only ever be applied in a comical fashion, but those directors may no longer be involved at all. I’m a Po and Tigress enjoyer, but I’d much rather KFP 4 be a good, solid movie than it being weak and trying to hold itself up with a shallow romantic subplot with Po and Tigress. I would also hate (with the fury of a thousand suns) to see Tigress’s character reduced to that of a love interest; she’s strong, capable, independent, and totally awesome. If she has a larger role in the fourth movie, I’d watch her being a cold-hearted badass a thousand times over before I sit through two hours of her being overtly out-of-character for the sake of a “classic romance” with Po. A relationship between them could work, and I’ll be supportive of it if it’s done well, but it doesn’t and shouldn’t have to happen for the movie to be emotional and impactful and mean something.

I have an unfortunate yet strong suspicion that the Furious Five will be tossed to the curb in this movie, and I really hope I’m wrong, because they’re fun characters that help encapsulate the original feel of the franchise. They’re a key part of what gave Po his beginnings in the world of martial arts, and they’re also the people he desperately wanted to be like throughout his childhood (and young adult years). They’re his best friends, and while I want Po to have adventures of his own, I don’t want his origins to be forgotten in favor of new characters. I want the nostalgia, alright? Is that wrong? No, and if it were, I wouldn’t want to be right. Speaking of long-time characters, what about Shifu? I can’t help but wonder what he’ll be up to during this whole debacle. Meditating, perhaps? I hope nobody in the writers’ room decides it’s Shifu’s time to go, which has been a growing concern of mine since learning of Po’s ambiguous “promotion.”

The movie’s director, Mike Mitchell, has been involved with KFP before, but not to the extent of previous directors. While I know little information about him, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt and I’ll maintain that sentiment until the movie releases. A potential (confirmed?) co-director is Stephanie Stine, the director of Raya and the Last Dragon.

Final thoughts, summarized:

The plot is kinda off and contradicts both Po’s character arc and the other movies

A female chameleon is the villain, which is maybe the only aspect of the movie I can get behind

The Furious Five and Shifu may be completely ignored (again)

The whole “passing of the torch” storyline does not work given Po’s situation

Chen’s character doesn’t make sense

I’m not familiar with the director(s)

If you took the time to read this post, kudos to you. I hope I was able to help you arrange your thoughts regarding this news, because I’m still a bit scatter-brained myself (which is a feeling that I think we can all relate to at the moment). I’ll likely add more to this post over time, whether it be via re-blogs or simple edits. I think of something new to add to this post every few minutes, which I’ve been doing for a few hours now...

Let’s end on a positive note, because I know I was a bit of a downer here:

The title looks pretty cool, I’m not gonna lie. I like the scale texture!

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7oy7iger · 1 month

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Have you ever drawn other more Kung Fu Panda TV characters before? Like Luthera (aka Wandering Blade)

Meiling（Secrets of the Furious Five），Song （Kung Fu Panda Legends of Awesomeness）

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animated-character-of-the-day · 1 year

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Today’s character of the day is: Master Viper from Kung Fu Panda

#Kung Fu Panda #Kung Fu Panda 2 #Kung Fu Panda the series #Dreamworks #Master Viper #Viper #kung fu panda viper #Kung Fu Panda 3 #kung fu panda the secrets of the furious five

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darkcrowprincess · 2 years

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Crane looks out the window and starts waving his wing: Oh, look! There’s Po and Tigress! Hey! Hey, you guys! Hey![Po and Tigress kiss, than start taking each other’s clothes off]

Crane starts yelling in surprised: Ohh! Ohh! Ahh-ahhh!

Viper comes into the room worried: What?!

Crane pointing with his wing shocked: Ahhh! Po and Tigress! Po and Tigress!

Viper shocked looking out the window too: Oh my God!

Crane: PO AND TIGRESS!

Viper: OH MY GOD!

Crane covering his face with his wing: OH! MY EYES! MY EYES!

Viper grabing Crane: Crane!, Crane! It’s okay! It’s okay!

Crane: NO! THEY’RE DOING IT!

Viper: I KNOW! I KNOW! I KNOW!

Crane surprised: YOU KNOW?!

Viper super worried for Po and Tigress if Master Shifu catches them: Yes, I know! And Monkey and Mantis know! But Master Shifu doesn't know, so you have to stop screaming!

#incorrect quotes #movies #cartoons #lol 😆#crane the last of the five to know #secret relationship #master shifu would kill po #kung fu panda #kung fu panda 2 #kung fu panda 3 #kfp tipo #tipo #funniest thing I ever wrote #Shifu is the last to know #the furious five #the furious five and po #master tigress #master po

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ballerinagwen · 4 months

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Kung Fu Panda Series Observation/Theories: Peach Tree symbolism🍑

Hi all! I feel like the majority of the fandom-pandom for kfp is losing their s$&ts from the trailer released for the fourth film; respectively, I also agree and am currently obsessing over ANY details from the clips released! (I know what the wiki page says about the Furious 5 only having a BRIEF MOMENT but please dreamworks, just bring those beautiful babes back and don’t forgot about them!👏)

Anyway, here’s some observation points I’m noticing and then drawing possible theories, just to help ease my brain from any hurt that may be to come from the movie released next year😭

*Basically, it’s all about the Peach Tree*

FYI: I will predominantly be referencing my notes from the FILMS and not the short films/separate series since I don’t know much about those films. The ONLY one I will be referencing is from “Secrets of the Scroll” since the Peach Tree is heavily symbolized (and I live for Tigress content🐯).

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1st pic] Coming from the kfp4 trailer, this beautiful ass Peach Tree of Heavenly Wisdom is prospering for who knows how long this franchise (and turtle man’s death) occurred. Big thing to note is not only the tree itself, but the tiny tree located to the left of Po. I believe that’s the same tree from the first movie, where Shifu and Oogway would plant a new sapling during their conversation about angry boi and sh$&ting on how useless Po is to them🥲

*sidenote: from the trailer, there is a scene where Po is watching the blossoms move in the wind. This did remind me of Oogway’s passing from the first film so whether a ‘change/transition’ could occur is something to consider. Also, I don’t know if that scene takes place at the beginning, middle or end of the forth movie so hopefully more content will be released soon😊👏

2nd pic] The second picture below references this idea— furthermore, from the wiki page, Oogway replanted the peach sapling (the one where Master Master took his feelings out on the tree and a seed fell down), in order to represent how using effective teaching methods towards Po will not only help the panda learn Kung-Fu but also be able to defeat Tai Lung. Congrats then to Shifu for taking the turtle’s advice because now we are getting a fourth film (and all the separate shorts too).

Also from the 1st movie, when Oogway is meditating (before Shifu f$&n interrupts his yoga session) the Peach Tree is actively losing its petals, and then WE ARE TREATED TO THE BEAUTY AND HEARTACHE OF OOGWAY’S DEATH IN ONE OF THE MOST ICONIC CINEMATIC MASTERPIECES OF ALL TIME!!!🪦 So, tree loses petals= loss, death of something? Towards the end of kfp1, the tree starts getting its petals back= rebirth, growth, gain???

3rd pic] - From Secrets of the Scroll, before events of kfp1

Ok, so our beautiful tiger girl is given some much needed spotlight in this short; followed by some emotional damage and teenage issues (like having to fight a boar, prove your worth to your adoptive red panda father, etc…) And, there is the one scene that basically mimics Oogway’s talk with Po (except its grandpa and granddaughter.)

Tigress, as a teenager just got s$&t on by Shifu for getting the wrong group of people to fight pig man (thus Furious Five was born.) She takes some therapeutic, albeit depressive-episode moment time by Peach Tree till Oogway joins her and gives some loving advice: screw dad and prove your worth to yourself👍👍

We then get treated to a beautiful, strong independent woman and her comrades for future films! My note from this pic is that the blossoms are not gone (unlike Oogway’s deathbed scene), so this could also symbolize growth, aspiration, understanding your self-worth (like Po’s from first movie- 4th pic)

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Notes about Peach and Peach Blossom symbolism in China🍑

. “Also known as “Fairy Fruit”, all of its parts are used in Chinese traditional medicine as a cure for several diseases…” ( located under PEACHES category, website, 12/29/2023, https://www.nonsolobacchette.com/post/the-hidden-meaning-of-peaches-in-chinese-art )

. Also from same article, the peach has been associated with immortality and longevity (could explain why Oogway’s lived for such a long ass time too, apart from the fact he’s also a turtle.)

. Good fortune is another symbol for the peach (considering the luck Po has got, maybe those peaches were watching after him!)

Peach blossom trees also represent longevity: they bloom in March and represents spring.

And, DA DA DA….. peach blossoms also symbolizes love!❤️ From the article, since the trees bloom in March, that’s a prime time for weddings to occur (hm, wonder what that could mean .. cough cough 🐼🐯)!!!! Could also be just general love for friends, family too.

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Anyway these were just some notes and observations I saw from the trailer. Truthfully, Dreamworks may be watching the fandom from afar or completely ignoring us but I do hope that the forth film won’t destroy all the beauty and intelligence that the franchise had carried before (especially with the first two films.)

#kung fu panda #tipo #dragon warrior #dreamworks #symbols #peaches #kfp 4 #kfp #po and tigress

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