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lc-holy · 3 months

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Conférence Masterclass 808 (Translation)

I've taken the liberty of translating the conference that took place last year with the writing director of Miraculous (Sébastien Thibaudeau). It was only made public when someone posted a video of the conference a short while ago.

In this conference, Sébastien Thibaudeau will talk about the creation of Miraculous and his work on the series. He is joined by Chloé Paye, a new scriptwriter working on Miraculous season 6.

Sébastien talks a lot and repeats himself a bit, so the summary can be a bit confusing.

I strongly advise you to go and listen to the video if you understand French. There are a lot of details I'm going to leave out, and Sébastien is very funny.

Photo belongs to mlbfanfr on twitter.

Please be respectful in comments or tags. If you want to debate on things related to this conference, please make your own post. I apologize if there are any mistakes, I'm French and I'm not fluent in English.

-12 years ago, Sébastien arrived at Zagtoon, a studio that was just starting out and had yet to produce and broadcast any series. The producer (Jérémy Zag) and Sébastien hit it off and decided to start working together. Zag decides to give Sébastien total freedom over his projects. Sébastien then decides to put the spotlight on scriptwriters, because in this profession they are unfortunately poorly paid and never stay on the same projects.

So they produced a cartoon called Kobushi. A little-known series that did rather well, even if it didn't stay on the "Gulli" channel for long. The scriptwriters and producer were happy with the end result, as it was produced in a very short time.

Jeremy Zag then proposed another project, which he thought was quite good, but which he was unable to sell to broadcasters. At the time, the project was called "Ladybug". No one was interested, as the project was aimed more at an adult audience than a children's audience. Sébastien had to make sure that the project could be broadcast on Disney and TF1.

There was only a "trailer" also called "Ladybug" (but you'll find the video under the title Ladybug PV) animated by Toei animation. At the time, Sébastien had not yet been hired by Zagtoon. It was Jérémy Zag who convinced Toei animation to work with them (no mean feat, since Toei animation doesn't work with anyone).

So Sébastien started working with Thomas Astruc (the man who wrote and created the "Ladybug" project). At first, he didn't want to work on this project because he found it complicated. Thomas wanted to make a series for adults, but at the time, it was very complicated to make a cartoon for adults. What's more, they didn't have enough money to take on such a project. Sébastien finally agreed, but there were some changes to be made, which Thomas accepted.

-What Sébastien appreciated most in this project was the romantic comedy, the love square between the two main characters.

To meet the requirements of the cartoon industry, "Ladybug" had to be set in a neutral universe, in other words, in an imaginary country or the USA, but Zag, who loves Paris, declared that the cartoon had to be set in Paris.

In the end, Thomas Astruc's entire project was discarded, leaving only the love story between the two heroes and the city of Paris, where the story was to take place.

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-Sébastien explains how he writes Marinette's first dialogues: He says he talks a lot in real life, so he writes Marinette like him. She says out loud whatever she's thinking.

For Chat noir, he makes him tell his father's jokes. Something TF1 doesn't accept. The TV channel went so far as to refuse to validate the Bible (a collection of information on the series and episodes) until it had removed the sentence: “Chat noir makes jokes”. Sebastien has therefore removed the sentence, but will continue to make Chat noir tell jokes.

-The writing director's job is to get the producer, creator and broadcaster to agree. The series broadcast on TF1 and Disney are very different. TF1 wants series whose story can be told in a single episode, unlike Disney, which wants series whose story spans several episodes.

Sébastien and TF1 agree that Miraculous will be a series with one story per episode, a "Formula Show".

He cites the example of Dora the Explorer episodes, where every episode is the same: Dora goes on an adventure from point A to point B, she has to find 3 clues, then she meets Swiper, she sings a song to make Swiper go away, she uses the talking map to get from one place to another, then Dora manages to get to point B and the episode ends.

This episode format is used for children, to give them a reassuring framework, as they build themselves up through repetition. That's why series like Dora work so well with young children.

So Sebastien sold the Miraculous series to broadcasters as a formula show. A person gets angry, is akumatized, then marinette transforms into Ladybug then frees the person from the akumatization and… The End.

It's also for this reason that Marinette tries to confess her love for Adrien in every episode, but is unable to do so.

But he tried to go against what he had planned with TF1, by slipping little extra stories into certain episodes. Audiences were receptive to these slightly hidden stories. The TV channel even asked Sébastien if there really were hidden things in the series, but he denied everything. Thanks to the positive reception from the public, TF1 agreed to develop the characters of Marinette and Adrien and flesh out the universe a little more.

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-Once the bible is written, they have to write a script. But first Sébastien, as writing director, needs to know the mood of the series, and to do this he calls on Thomas Astruc, the series creator. Thomas is a great fan of classical painting. A single painting can tell a complex scene with lots of detail. He wants the episodes of miraculous to be like these paintings, there will be very few shots, but in a single shot a lot will happen.

-Sébastien explains that one of the things Thomas wanted to convey in the series was emotion. They didn't want to do what a lot of children's cartoons do, which is to beat the bad guys and win at the end of the episode. They wanted to tell kids that it's normal to have negative emotions. We can also become better people, learn from our mistakes and so on. It also reassures TV channels by setting up scenes that are repeated in every episode: people get angry, people akumatize then people deakumatize, end of episode...

Once the TV channels had been reassured, they set about writing a script.

-Sébastien asks Thomas to write the ending, as they're not sure the series will work. They also wondered what the aim of the series was, and what they wanted to say to the children. The two of them sat down in an office and wrote the ending, which turned out to be just the end of an arc. He even adds that now that they've written a lot more, it's important for them to write in advance so that everything is clear to them.

-The first season was written by 19 authors, from home. He found it interesting that the series was written by several different authors, even if some of them didn't quite understand the premise of the series. One episode that Sébastien particularly appreciated was written by two “autrices” (I think it's weird to say “two female authors”, so I'll use the French word): the refletkta episode, with the story of Juleka who couldn't get into the photos. (Note that all the episodes were proofread by Sébastien and Thomas).

After that, they kept a few people on to work together on the scripts for subsequent seasons.

Sébastien explains that he keeps a close eye on the production of the episodes, to make sure that everything that goes into the picture is as faithful as possible to what they've written in the script.

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-The kwamis exist thanks to Toei, who wanted funny little animals to sell plush toys. So the scriptwriters had to find a way to integrate kwamis into the story.

-(Again, Sébastien advises people to check out the Kobushi series if they can still watch it somewhere, or ask the leaker who leaked the whole of season 5 to give them the episodes (that's a joke, of course)).

-Sébastien talks about the Ikari gozen episode, which could have been a total failure because the storyboarder didn't fully understand the scenario. Sébastien asks Zag to redo the storyboard, which will add 10 weeks to the episode's deadline. The storyboarder admits that he's always done storyboards mechanically, without worrying whether the episode is good or not, whether the jokes are funny or not. Eventually, the episode was redone by the same storyboarder, resulting in the episode we all know today.

- They still have a lot to tell with Miraculous, to the point where they're wondering if they'll have enough seasons to tell everything they want to tell. Sebastien says there will be a season 6 and 7, and probably a season 8 and 9.

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- Chloé Paye met Sébastien when she was looking for an internship. She had never worked in animation, and knew nothing about Miraculous. She tells us how the scriptwriting team works. Each time, all the scriptwriters in the room have to be convinced of the script. They can sometimes spend hours on details to get everyone to agree.

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- The driving force behind the series is that there must always be a secret between Marinette and Adrien. The lovesquare can never be broken, otherwise there's no series. Sébastien knows that some people are worried about this. Will they continue the lovesquare for another 4 seasons or more? How will they evolve? Sébastien says not to worry, they know where they want to go.

-It takes them 14 to 16 months to produce an episode, but it's often much longer due to unforeseen circumstances. And they don't work on one episode at a time, but on several at the same time. One episode takes a long time because of the 3D animation.

One of the things that's complicated with Miraculous 3d animation is that they can only display 3 characters at a time on screen, whereas the series requires them to display many more characters. It's also very difficult to correct animation errors, as this takes a lot of time.

-The TV networks were very surprised by the success of miraculous. They didn't think adults and children alike would watch the series. The TV channels were a little confused because they usually make series for a specific age group, but since miraculous had people of all ages watching, they weren't sure what to do.

- Sébastien says he's very happy that miraculous inspires a lot of people to create things, like writing fanfiction, however he's not interested in it because he doesn't want to be influenced by certain fans who would love to see certain things in the series.

- Writing direction also means paying attention to how the characters speak. They all have their own way of speaking. For example, Adrien will never say "j’te parle", but rather "Je te parle".

- During the writing process, the writers sometimes act out scenes to make the dialogue more natural. This is what happened with the episode "Gang of secrets". They felt that, with the success of the show and the pressure it was generating, they needed to write something to relieve their stress. So they wrote about Marinette and the enormous pressure she was under to keep all her secrets. The final scene, in which Marinette tells Alya that she's Ladybug, came naturally when they performed it together.

#miraculous ladybug #ml writing team #Conférence Masterclass 808

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crimson-and-noire · 10 months

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Crimson and Noire - ML Comic

This is a blog for the Miraculous Ladybug Crimson and Noire comic, based on the fanfiction by the same name. C&N is a retelling of everyone's favorite show: with a kwami-swap between our heroes, and reverse crushes within the Love Square.

Chapter 1

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Artist: DKsaikou (Instagram).

Coordinator: @scarlett-writes.

Story: 11JJ11 (@graaythekwami).

Miraculous Ladybug belongs to ZAG.

#miraculous ladybug #ml comic #miraculous ladybug comic #crimson and noire #mister bug #lady noire #kwami swap #reverse crush au #art #ml art #ladybug #chat noir

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silverslate221 · 2 years

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How many kwami oc do you have and what are they?

Oh anon you have no idea the can of worms you've just unleashed xD

I have 71 kwamis some of which are entirely my own, some of which take elements from my friend @graaythekwami 's original kwamis and I also incorporate many of their kwamis and headcanons into my own.

Alright here's a list of my kwamis in alphabetical order in their various states of completion

Mikka the Ant of War

Torri the Aurochs of Strength

Vammp the Bat of Absorption*

Grizz the Bear of Soul

Baash the Buffalo of Augmentation*

Nabooru the Camel of Transaction

Gemm the Chameleon of Perception

Ranna the Cougar of Passion

Saage the Coyote of Wisdom*

??? the Crab of Emotion

Renn the Crane of Peace

Snapp the Crocodile of Adaptation

Livv the Deer of Spring

Equus the Donkey of Preservation

Zipp the Dragonfly of Progression*

Mnemmi the Elephant of Memory

Sorren the Falcon of Truth*

Flikker the Firefly of Light*

Saffi the Frog of Purity

Blles the Gecko of Summer

Parra the Giraffe of Chaos

Honnk the Goose of Confusion

??? the Gorilla of Connection

??? the Hawk of Vision

??? the Hippo of Gravitation

Sotaa the Honey Badger of Aggression*

Gorrge the Hyena of Consumption

Gloss the Ibex of Friction*

Kallik the Jackal of Guidance

Jellos the Jellyfish of Corruption

Kicc the Kangaroo of Vibration*

Fianna the Koi Fish of Pretension

??? the Lemur of Negotiation

Leeo the Lion of Order

Tawnii the Lynx of Intuition

Tangg the Mantis of Patience

Bubiic the Mosquito of Disease

??? the Moth of Oblivion

??? the Narwhal of Dedication

Hanne the Nightingale of Hope

??? the Ostrich of Equality

Zibbi the Otter of Love*

??? the Penguin of Dreams

Rivver the Piranha of Cooperation

Prrysm the Platypus of Fusion*

Demiis the Polar Bear of Winter

Spikke the Porcupine of Precision

Banditt the Raccoon of Avarice*

Habuu the Rattlesnake of Vengeance*

Shaade the Raven of Darkness

??? the Rhino of Isolation

Sparkk the Salamander of Fire

Slipp the Salmon of Apathy

Azuure the Scarab of Thought

Scorro the Scorpion of Beauty

Akwwa the Seahorse of Generosity

Finn the Shark of Fear

Ravanna the Skunk of Despair

Luxx the Sloth of Stagnation

Slikki the Snail of Inhibition

Frijj the Snow Leopard of Silence

Døddie the Sparrow of Autumn

Oskkr the Squirrel of Jealousy

??? the Stingray of Immersion

??? the Swan of Reflection

??? the Swordfish of Separation

Kiikaa the Thunderbird of Lightning*

Flairr the Toucan of Expression*

Vivvy the Vulture of Justice

??? the Wildebeest of Courage

Pekk the Woodpecker of Dimension

These OC characters belong to me, while the concept of kwamis belong to Miraculous Ladybug and ZAG

*This kwami takes some element from one of @graaythekwami 's original kwamis

#ml kwamis #miraculous ladybug #oc kwamis #kwami oc #oc miraculous #anon ask #mymiraclebox #graaythekwami #11jj11 #kwamis

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ao3feed-ladynoir · 1 year

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One Sided Benefits

One Sided Benefits by inchen1100101

Gabriel only uses Nathalie for his pleasure. Will he come around or will he destroy her completely?

Characters belong to Thomas Astruc/Zag Entertainment, so do the previous events from the show, but the story itself came to life in my very own brain...

Words: 32361, Chapters: 15/?, Language: English

Fandoms: Miraculous Ladybug, GabeNath - Fandom

Rating: Explicit

Warnings: Creator Chose Not To Use Archive Warnings

Characters: Nathalie Sancoeur/Agreste, Gabriel Agreste, Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir, Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Le Gorille | Adrien Agreste's Bodyguard, Sabine Cheng, Tom Dupain, Alya Césaire, Nino Lahiffe, Nadja Chamack, Manon Chamack, Ms. Mendeleiev

Relationships: Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir/Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Gabriel Agreste/Nathalie Sancoeur, Emilie Agreste/Gabriel Agreste, Sabine Cheng/Tom Dupain, Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug & Tom Dupain, Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir & Tom Dupain, Nadja Chamack & Sabine Cheng, Manon Chamack & Marinette Dupain-Cheng | Ladybug, Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir & Gabriel Agreste & Nathalie Sancoeur, Adrien Agreste | Chat Noir & Emilie Agreste

Additional Tags: gabenath, gabenathship, adrienette, gabriel x nathalie, Identity Reveal, one sided benefits

Read Here: https://archiveofourown.org/works/44284350

#AO3 Feed #FanFiction #AO3 Adrienette #❤️#💖#💚#Adrienette #Gabenath #Miraculous Ladybug #♥#R:E #A:Inchen1100101 #Reveal Fic

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ptbf2002 · 8 months

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No, I Do Not Feel Ashamed Of Hating Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug & Cat Noir

Original Template: https://www.deviantart.com/mastuhoscg8845iscool/art/What-show-or-movie-are-you-NOT-ashamed-of-hating-911926070

Miraculous: Tales Of Ladybug & Cat Noir Belongs To Thomas Astruc, Jeremy ZAG, ZAG Heroez, ZAGtoon, Method Animation, ON Animation Studios, ON Kids & Family, Mediawan Animation, Toei Animation Co., Ltd. SAMG Entertainment Co., Ltd. AB International Distribution, PGS Entertainment, Mediawan, DeAgostini Editore S.P.A. DeAgostini S.P.A. DQ Entertainment, DQ Entertainment International Films Limited, Assemblage Entertainment Pvt. Ltd. SK Broadband, Inc. The Walt Disney Company France, TF1, ABC ME, Australian Broadcasting Corporation, EBS 1TV, Korea Educational Broadcasting System (EBS), Disney Channel, Disney Branded Television, Disney General Entertainment Content, The Walt Disney Company, Family Channel (Canadian TV channel), WildBrain Ltd. Gloob, Canais Globo, Globosat, And Organizações Globo Participações S.A.

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oliviamb1 · 1 year

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My Favorite - least Miraculous characters list [REDO]

Here is a remake of my favorite to least favorite Miraculous Ladybug characters by Tiermaker.

Here some of the reasons why:

Zoe became one of the best characters on my list. She’s cool.😄😄

I really like the miraculous special characters [well some of them]

Sabrina has moved up to the good part of the list [since I saw season 5 spoilers]😊

Natalie and the Principal moved up to the okay list.

I don’t like Kagami’s mom that much. Either as Bob Roth and XY! 😠

The rest on the IDK list… I don’t know.

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So yeah there you go! The original is on Deviantart. Here’s a link to it.

Okay! I hoped you like it!

Miraculous Ladybug belongs to Zag studios.

I don’t own any of this.

I hoped you like it share and leave a comment about it.

#miraculous ladybug #tiermaker #tales of ladybug and cat noir #ml ladybug

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chainendark · 2 years

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Hey guys!

Check out my "Pandora AU " at https://archiveofourown.org/works/35566804

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Summary:

A prophecy is set for the girl born with cerulean eyes, different from her origins.

In whatever universe she may be, destiny will always find a way for her.

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In an alternate world where Master Fu didn't make his mistakes.

What will the world would be with the Order of the Guardians of Miraculous still in operation. Helping the humanity in the events of world wars and évolution.

Instead of Marinette, Hua Chi grew in the rural lands of Asia with her Asian family.

Disclaimer: I do not own Miraculous: Tales of Ladybug and Chat Noir, any of related works or any of the related characters. The TV show "Miraculous" is created by Thomas Astruc and owned by ZAG Heroes. This story is intended for entertainment purposes only. I am not making any profit from this story. All rights of the Miraculous Show belong to Thomas Astruc and the others.

Notes:

P.S. : This is not a canon complain, but I can't stop this imagination of mine and the need to share it. From theorizing on some details and such from canon.

Phantom Thief-like versions in a cloak and dagger world and classics jazz about and maybe gore. And I really don't know where I should go with this story but I think I'll go for a series of random One-Shots first until I know how to go through this.

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I know I have mistakes on what should be Alternate Marinette's name.

For the Pandora AU series, it's gonna be Cheng Hua Chi.

For the "Across the Spaces, In_between Souls", it's gonna be Cheng Mei Chi.

It depends really. And also, the stories about this Cheng character aren't related to the new movie called "Turning Red".

This story comes to life when I see the S2 and S3 opening song intro of the MLB show. When there's (if it is) a spoiler about Marinette as a Panda.

I'm gonna draw her attire soon like the one I did in the "Across the Spaces, In_between Souls" story.

Check the recent post...

(Posted May 3 2022)

#miraculous fanfiction #miraculous ladybug fanfiction #miraculous #ladybug and chat noir #ml fic #miraculous lb #mlb fanfic #marinette dupen chang #ml au #chat noir #miraculous ladybug #miraculous les aventures de ladybug et chat noir #miraculous marinette #miraculous adrien #pandora_au #krechrivulette #crazietell

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immaturityofthomasastruc · 4 years

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#6: “How can you think a character named Ghetto Blaster could possibly be racist?”

This was originally going to be answering an ask, but I realized that the subject was a lot more complicated that I didn't want to just limit it to a short answer, so I decided to make this a whole post. Now that I think about it, I really should work on a masterpost someday...

In my post about Kung Food, I pointed out how unintentionally offensive the titular Akuma's design looked with several Japanese influences in this supposedly Chinese Akuma, which Astruc quickly brushed off by explaining away the aspects of the design nobody was actually upset about.

As usual, he missed the point completely and tried to seem like he's the bigger person in this situation. The sad thing is that this isn't the only example of innocent bigotry in Miraculous Ladybug. There are a lot of moments involving certain characters that are... questionable at best. Kagami, a Japanese girl, has a mother who is incredibly strict and uses a bokken (a wooden sword used for practicing swordsmanship) as a cane. Marinette's Chinese mother, Sabine, is always seen wearing a cheongsam (a Chinese dress) and never any other kind of clothing. Aeon, a character introduced in the New York City special, is an android resembling a black girl created by a white scientist programmed to “help people”. And Jess, a character introduced in the same special, is a Native American girl who later becomes a superhero using the Eagle Miraculous, the “Miraculous of Freedom”. Anyone who paid attention in history class will quickly see the problem with that last example.

But the moment that many consider to be the most racist comes from an issue of the Miraculous Ladybug comic (specifically Issue #3) that was quickly abandoned like every other side project at ZAG because everyone there has the attention span of Professor Calamitous.

This issue was actually a follow-up to the previous one, so I'll have to explain the context for the second issue. There, Marinette and her friends were at the beach to watch Adrien as he had a photoshoot on a yacht that day, but while Marinette was changing into her swimsuit, Chloe stole her clothes and phone to keep her from seeing Adrien. But when an Akuma attacks, Marinette is forced to transform and fight the Akuma. After defeating said Akuma, Ladybug and Cat Noir are taken to New York City by an American superhero who needs their help to defeat a giant kraken made out of trash (seriously). Since Ladybug and Cat Noir already used their respective superpowers during their battle with the Akuma, they're about to detransform, so the American heroes give them space to recharge their Kwamis, the magical entities that inhabit their Miraculous that allow them to transform.

Unfortunately for Marinette, and by extension the readers, she transforms back to her civilian self before falling into a dumpster with no clothes on.

Yes. Someone was paid to draw this. This isn't some strange fanart, this is from the officially licensed Miraculous Ladybug comic. I could talk about whose idea it was to draw an underage girl running around New York City completely naked, but even the setup for this gag doesn't work. In the previous issue, Marinette was shown wearing some clothes when her bag was stolen, just not something you'd wear out in public.

But wait, it gets better! The first person she encounters while trying to find food for her Kwami is this man.

And even better, she immediately assumes they're looting a nearby building (and other things judging from her face when this guy touches her shoulder) while the kraken attacks the city, and literally asks them to not kill her.

In reality, they're actually helping the hospital evacuate their patients because of how understaffed they are. Their names are, I kid you not, Public Enemy, Metal Face D, Ghetto Blaster, Shaolin Soul, Breaker, and Killabee.

Ignoring the fact that all of these names sound like they belong to characters from Black Dynamite, it's easy to understand the message the comic is trying to convey, that you shouldn't judge a book by its cover. The problem is the way it's portrayed.

Let's just say that because of... current events I won't go into detail about, the fact that the first thing Marinette assumes when she sees this group that mostly consists of black people dressed in gangster clothes is that they're looting a hospital is a very uncomfortable subject to talk about. As much as I hated the New York special, it's nowhere near as bad as this.

Like with “Kung Food”, I highly doubt that Astruc or anyone else who worked on this comic intended any harm to come from the way these characters came across (or any of the other aforementioned characterizations I mentioned at the beginning of this post). The problem is how Astruc addressed these accusations.

Way to show your professionalism by calling someone who criticized you an “SJW”, Astruc. That's real mature. You could have said something like “I understand how this might be problematic, but once you read the whole comic, you'll understand the context behind this scene.” Instead, he came up with a response that made him come across as incredibly arrogant in the process.

Is anyone surprised that this part of the comic wasn't adapted into the New York City special?

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hermionemonica · 4 years

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LADYBUG & CHAT NOIR: AWAKENING

It’s been a long time since I did this. (cracks knuckles) Let’s get into it.

So, there is a newly released video on Vimeo which appears to be a promo for the Miraculous franchise. And to our immense delight, it features a few frames from the upcoming 2021 movie (although with no context whatsoever). I think this is official? Let’s hope it is.

(Link)

The official logo of the movie.

Marinette’s Disney Princess style song sequence in the bakery. She is probably singing about Adrien.

Chat’s Disney Princess style song sequence with birds. He is probably singing about Ladybug.

And now Marinette with birds. Seems to be a song sequence as well.

Wait... what if Marinette and Chat are singing the same song? But in different places? And then they end up in the same place?

An absolutely beautiful frame featuring Ladybug.

Origins?

Stoneheart?

So this confirms it. That video Zag posted a few months back was a part of the movie and not just an animation try-out. There definitely is some part of the Origins episodes in the movie.

OH MY HEART!! 😍😍😍 THIS IS SO BEAUTIFUL I CAN’T BREATHE!!!

Those hands must belong to an akuma, right?

I especially love this frame too. It looks like Ladybug and Chat Noir have just escaped from somewhere by using the... wait for it... UNDERGROUND SEWERS! The sewers make a special appearance, yayyy!!!

The ultimate fight? Woah.

I am still a little confused as to why most of the frames are in monochrome. It would’ve been alright if it was the case with all the frames, but no. The frame which has Chat with the birds is in full colour. Unless... are they going for the same the as that live musical... an akuma that sucks the colour out of everything. I am really excited and curious you guys!

Thank Heavens for some new content!

#miraculous ladybug #Miraculous the movie #Miraculous Awakening #Ladybug and Chat Noir: Awakening #ml spoilers #my post #my ramblings

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awholelotofladybug · 7 months

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Another AU in the back of my head, and you can blame my recent obsession with Mortal Kombat for this one…

Tarkatan Chloe AU

An AU where…

The dreaded Tarkat disease makes its way to our world, and into Paris.

At first, nothing seems to be happening, until Chloe starts to not feel well.

Twenty-eight days later, Tarkat has its vile way, disfiguring and debilitating Chloe as she develops bony spikes, sharp, jagged teeth, and a appetite for flesh.

Paris has no choice but to banish her before whatever she has spreads. She is sent to the wilderness.

Soon, however, others are found falling victim to Tarkat, and are sent away with her.

A select few, like Ladybug, Chat, Zoe, Luka, and Sabrina, are determined to find a cure so those infected can get their lives back and those not yet infected can be spared from the disease.

However, in their exile, resentment grows and festers among the infected, and Chloe, like Baraka in Outworld, takes charge of her new “family”, and plan to drive away anyone who gets too close, or destroy those they believe ochestrated their exile.

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous #stammering adrien au #mortal kombat #mortal kombat 1 #chloe bourgeois #another au where chloe is more of a villain #baraka #tarkatan #tarkat #idk the idea intrigued me #i own nothing #miraculous belongs to ZAG #mortal kombat belongs to warner brothers

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aeonghaseyo · 3 years

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Regarding PAABITB and the writers, does she realize that there are tons of people working on this show, not just Astruc? Because she talks as he is the only one who can get fired if things go bad. Apparently because of the last script leak accident, someone will probably get fired, and she responded that she has "no pity for Astruc"... Wasn't Astruc the one that got mad for the leak??

I think somehow the reason why Pee Girl always tends to take a dump on Astruc over any other writer/producer/staff in the show (even Jeremy Zag) is because Astruc has a not-so-refined reputation built from his social media engagements. I noticed that there is an immaturityofthomasastruc blog but somehow, not an immaturityofjeremyzag or immaturity of _insert Miraculous Ladybug crew member_ (although if there are a handful anyone can confirm it with me), and that already says a lot about how Thomas Astruc conducts himself in social media in relation to Miraculous Ladybug. Also, given that he was the only crew member who makes self-inserts in the series, it's no surprise that he's gotten some criticism for it, along with his own problematic viewpoints on certain characters on the show (ahem Chloe) and the way he treats the Miraculous Ladybug fanbase. The way he even expresses his thoughts in Twitter isn't far from being as problematic as the latter shit he's been doing. Pee Girl then is so quick to demean Astruc so much as that's what everyone else with a critical mind and a valid disappointment at him seem to have been doing (but not really, because IOTA for one can criticize the writer without being outright offensive and explosive about it).

Still though, the thing about the trademark idiocy of Pee Girl is that she spends so much time hating on something with a burning passion after being so fixated on their flaws, carrying on with that hate without looking at the bigger picture, and then saying things which shouldn't have been said in the first place because they make her sound like a fucking moron. Then again, that's not our problem is it?

To everyone in the Miraculous Fandom: we don't claim Pee Girl. She doesn't belong among us, and whatever crazy shit she says doesn't reflect the entirety of the fandom. We can be disappointed in the turn of events that took place in the recent season, but we do not condone demeaning the writers just out of our emotions for it. We're so much better than Pee Girl. Pee Girl is NOTHING.

#aeong replies to asks #ml fandom salt #miraculous fandom salt #thomas astruc salt #pee girl salt #paabitb salt #plaggandadrienbondingisthebest salt #plaggandadrienbondingisthebest

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miraculouscontent · 3 years

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Didn’t Need Burrow (April 24th-May 3rd)

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Marinette is exposed to the world as Ladybug by the end of the series. This is largely so Adrien gets to bask in everyone knowing that HE ended up with Paris' protector on his arm, emphasizing her status as a trophy that he won.

This feels too likely, I hate it.

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: After being badgered into trusting her with the Fox, Marinette tries to convince Alya that she can't expose herself as Rena Rouge any further, and should take advantage of the Fox's long-range capabilities to stay hidden. Alya dismisses the danger; if she tries hiding at all, it doesn't take long to reveal herself, claiming it's unheroic to hide. Shadowmoth then targets her personally, with Marinette taking the blame.

I WOULD EXCUSE THE FOX THING IF IT STAYED LONG RANGE BUT I’M WAITING FOR THEM TO RUIN IT

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Rather than outing Ladybug, Alya reveals *herself* as Rena Rouge. She claims that this is fine since Hawkmoth already knows her secret identity... and besides, it gives the LadyBlog more cred!

Because why not I guess, the bar for her is already so low.

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Marinette will be forced to give up Guardianship/go through the memory wipe... but continue as Ladybug. This is mined for Sadrien AND resets LadyNoir; she no longer recalls all the annoying shit he's pulled, offering a fresh start. May lead into Reversed Rectangular Romance with Chat Noir pining after the old Ladybug while she develops a crush on her brooding partner. He's so ~dark~ and ~mysterious~ and gives her such ~wistful looks~!

Marinette gets to give up guardianship but at what cost. (also, that last line about Chat being dark and brooding)

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: In a Shocking Twist, Emilie is revealed to have been evil and manipulative like Chloe/Lila, and presented as solely responsible for her husband's jerkassery. This sets up GabNath as endgame with Gabriel absolved for all his misdeeds. (Any similarities between Emilie and her son's behavior are summarily ignored.)

Because Adrien is male, obviously. He gets a pass.

Anonymous said:

Didn't need the Burrow: A lot of Adrien's supposed childhood friendship with Chloe was actually with Zoe. Which is supposed to give the new character some instant connections and serves as another proof of Chloe being irredeemable. Bonus: Marinette finds out and whether or not she spills the beans, it will be something she'll get called out for.

So, either a retcon or Adrien comes off as even more of a liar in “Origins.”

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Su-Han will tell Marinette outright that her responsibilities mean she's not allowed to be happy. This is used to garner sympathy for HIM - Isn't it sad how his duties have completely consumed his life? Clearly he needs help learning how to unwind and relax! Meanwhile Mari's drowning in the background, but this isn't about HER, now is it?

I’M SO SAD

WHYYY

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Adrien discovers Gabriel's secret and hides the truth, forbidding Plagg from telling anyone. Not just to protect his father/family, but because he's not ready to stop being Chat Noir. No villains means no reason for heroes, and he doesn't even know his lady's secret identity yet--! Naturally, his reasoning is treated as totally understandable and sympathetic, even as he enables the conflict to continue indefinitely.

“CHAT BLANC” VERSION 2.0 I HATE IT DX

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Hawk/Shadowmoth starts aiming to *kill* the exposed/temp heroes in order to prevent them from potentially joining battles. This only happens during akuma fights (so that it falls upon Ladybug to 'set things right' with her powers). Chat Noir makes minimal (if any) effort to protect them, relying upon his 'partner' to carry the day instead and bring them back.

Ladybug: *trying to save everyone*

Chat Noir: *filing his claws in the background*

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Marinette will be pressured to make others permanent heroes and let them have their Miraculi full-time. This sets up for Hawkmoth to eventually get his hands on the Miracle Box, meaning any Miraculi that haven't been distributed are now in the villains' clutches. Not only does this dramatically cut down her pool of allies, Marinette gets to be guilt-stricken over failing all her duties and not listening to their demands while she had the chance.

Marinette, you’re such a fAilUrE as guardian!!

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Zoe will turn out to be another love interest for Adrien - only it's as the New-Bee with *Chat Noir*, enabling the dreaded Reversed Romo-Rhombus dynamic with Ladybug becoming jealous of their chemistry.

girls are such jealous types, haven’t you guys heard? :)

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Ladybug gets a new default look (for the sake of selling more ML merch in Real Life), trading the spotted onesie for another form-fitting spandex suit that 'highlights her feminine charms' even more. This is treated as a sign of her 'growing up'.

wow i hate it

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Alya shipping Marinette with both Adrien and Chat Noir after finding out her identity.

I am 100% not here for shipping shenanigans.

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Alya will be responsible for leading Lila to suspect that Marinette and Ladybug are connected. Though Alya may actually *realize* that she slipped up, she won't warn Marinette about the potential security breach, not wanting her to get upset/any more paranoid than she already is.

And of course, this will be used to make people “sympathize” with her. See, she cAreS about Marinette’s feelings, how can you be mad at her for this??

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: There will be more plots where Marinette's 'lesson of the week' is that she must learn how to better control and suppress her emotions, and that she is literally not ALLOWED to be upset because Hawk/Shadowmoth will win if she does. At the same time, Adrien is encouraged to marinate in his own unhappiness over Ladybug not giving in to his advances. If the danger involved ever comes up, it's presented as purely Ladybug/Marinette's fault for rejecting him.

I’m starting to think some of you are ZAG insiders because wow that sounds likely. DX

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: A recurring theme in episodes featuring the 'girl squad' will be Marinette meddling too much, as her efforts to help them cross boundaries THEY aren't comfortable with. If she dares to bring up their past insistence that friends don't keep secrets, they'll call her out as a hypocrite while refusing to acknowledge their own hypocrisies.

“Marinette’s boundaries? Who??? No, Marinette, what about THEIR boundaries???” - the writers

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Adrien will feel sorry for Chloe and regret the role he played in her losing her Miraculous. This is mainly a vehicle to help explain why everything that went wrong with her/Queen Bee is totally, 100% Marinette/Ladybug's fault, along with showing how forgiving Adrien is and how he 'sees the best in everyone', and is clearly right to do so. Bonus: this is combined with him distrusting the NewBee for not being Chloe/making her jealous.

*sigh*

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Chloe will get akumatized out of anger over the New Bee, and Ladybug is blamed for her insensitivity/forced to apologize to her.

I’m still stunned at the mental gymnastics they go through to make Marinette/Ladybug apologize to people.

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Su-Han will confirm the popular fan claim that Ladybug and Black Cat bearers are, in fact, soulmates/bound together by destiny. Chat Noir gleefully rubs this in Ladybug's face; her disbelief and horror is played entirely for laughs at her expense. Adrien's behavior escalates further afterwards, bolstered by the knowledge that it doesn't matter how shitty he gets, as she belongs to him regardless.

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: In addition to confirming the notion that Ladybugs and Black Cats are 'meant to be', it's revealed that other Miracli are destined soulmates, like Foxes and Turtles or Butterflies and Peacocks, and other random Miraculi pairings that 'coincidentally' align with various official ships.

brb, need to step away to scream on my porch

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: At least one episode will have Marinette mess up a potion, preventing her and the other heroes from enjoying its benefits during a big fight. This is blamed either on her anxiety causing her to overthink it or on her being a poor student, lamenting the fact that she didn't have more time with Master Fu. (Bonus if Su-Han takes advantage of this to slam Fu; extra bonus points if Mari defends him by insisting *she* was the one who screwed up, not her master.)

It’s like a main course of Marinette blame, oh my god.

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Su-Han will make various sexist comments about Marinette and the other heroines, implying that they were all poor choices Because Girl. Since nothing says 'Girl Power' like insisting they must prove themselves to doubtful men who will never fully accept them. After all, Marinette is the only one who ever learns lessons; therefore, Su-Han will never grow out of his 'old-fashioned views'.

And when the writers are called out, they’ll go, “bUt hE’s jUst oLd fAshiOned”

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Adrien gets his Ring revoked by Su-Han for misbehavior. This is depicted as a terrible miscarriage of justice, and Marinette must convince Su-Han to return the Ring without learning who Chat Noir is. The more terrible the inciting act, the bigger the bonus points; did he skip another battle like Glaciator? Pull another Syren-level stunt? Cataclysm another innocent? Who cares? Sadrien is Sad, and that's the biggest crisis of all...

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Adrien pulls another Syren-level stunt (or worse); rather than holding him responsible, Su-Han berates Marinette for her poor leadership and failure to keep him in line. Bonus if she confides/vents to Alya afterwards only for Alya to AGREE with Su-Han that she's failed at being a good partner to Chat Noir. Fever Mode activates if Alya implies Marinette's failure is due to her inability to admit her feelings for Chat Noir and/or confess to Adrien.

I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Alya will pull an Adrien re: Lila, refusing to openly support Marinette against her. She'll claim that they need to 'gather evidence' first before exposing her to everyone. In practice, this means that Alya is willing to continue feigning ignorance, pretending that she's taken in by Lila's lies, while Marinette continues to suffer since she won't play along. Any evidence-gathering we see Alya engaging in is minimal, if she's shown doing it at all.

This is 150% one of the most accurate Alya-Lila confrontations I’ve seen from these predictions.

I hate it.

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: When confronting Lila, Alya will insist that 'Ladybug told me herself' that they aren't friends. Lila attempts to convince her that Ladybug is lying to try and protect her; this either works or spurs Alya to declare that LB 'hates liars', making her suspicious of Marinette's potential connections to the superheroine.

Alya

Alya why

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Alya will only treat Marinette with anything approaching a veneer of respect while she's Ladybug. (As in 'Transformed/wearing the spotted suit/actively superheroing'.) Her behavior towards her 'regular BFF', meanwhile, will continue to degrade.

and, as a alternative:

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Having learned that Marinette = Ladybug, Alya shows less and less respect towards the superheroine. (Not that she displayed much in the first place, but you know what they say: familiarity breeds contempt. And Alya's convinced that she knows her SO WELL, despite all signs to the contrary...)

Thanks. Hate them both. T_T

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Alya will end up outing Ladybug in a moment of anger. Though this is treated as impulsive and spur-of-the-moment, the act itself hints otherwise. (For example, she posts it on the LadyBlog; that post had to be *written up* first, and she likely had to think about what evidence she'd use to back up her claim... Not to mention if she includes pictures or video. Showing that Alya thought about it well before her 'tipping point', no matter how she claims otherwise.)

okay but you missed the part where Marinette is blamed for it--

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Tikki's comments about kwamis not understanding love are foreshadowing that they will later claim that Ladybug and Chat Noir's relationship has shown them what true love is. Because none of the other relationships they've ever seen or experienced in their long, looooooong history compare to the Four-Cornered F**kery.

Tikki sure knew a lot about love when she commented on all of Marinette’s love issues.

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Kagami will come to regret 'impulsively' breaking up with Adrien for being a lying jerkface, while Luka moves on and finds happiness with somebody else with relative ease. Because guys are allowed to move on with their lives while girls have to wallow in the miserable mires of wish-you-were-(still)-mine. Woes--!

no but see Adrien is “worthy” of love while Marinette isn’t

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Marinette is either responsible for the secret Juleka's keeping (such as trusting her with a Miraculous) or inadvertently sets Rose on its scent in the first place, making her *supposedly* responsible for the strife which follows.

We already know that it’s not Juleka’s secret at least but Marinette could absolutely still set Rose off.

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Marinette will be taught techniques/given a power-up that shuts off her emotions completely, or simply reaches the point where she figures out how to do so on her own. This is ultimately shown to be a bad thing/another mistake not because of the toll it takes on her psyche, but because the fully repressed Marinette/Ladybug no longer has any interest whatsoever in Adrien, and *we can't have THAT!*

Us getting to see Marinette not crushing on Adrien... but at what cost?

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Alya posts more embarrassing content on the LadyBlog, making it look like Ladybug keeps screwing up/making mistakes. Marinette asks her to stop, worried that she's undermining people's faith in her; Alya blows off her concerns and accuses her of getting a swelled head/becoming a 'control freak' about her image, insisting it's no big deal if people see she's human while refusing to treat her as such. (Meanwhile none of Chat Noir's mistakes/misbehavior make it onto the blog.)

“Bonus” if Alya gets particularly huffy because it’s jOunrAliSm and she’d be bIAsEd if she took down something that made her fRiEnD uNComOFTablE.

elflynns-horde-of-stuff said:

Don't need a burrow: The upcoming episode "Guiltrip" is gonna be 50% Sadrien. And we won't even get any new developments on his character for it.

so the usual

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: It's revealed that Ladybug holders are 'natural good luck charms' for everybody around them, but are punished by karmic backlash for even the *slightest* hint of selfishness (or self-consideration). Hence Marinette's whole plight, which is still presented as her fault for not being able to reach an impossibly perfect ideal. (Anything we learn about Black Cat holders, meanwhile, is purely for Agrestangst and has no bearing on anything observable within the show itself.)

Honestly, with the bad luck Marinette had in “Origins,” you’d think she’d be meant for the cat and been taught about the values of destruction and just being able to Go Off on people, or how to spin her bad luck into something good (or the black cat miraculous in general helps her channel her bad luck, such as making her Cataclysm stronger or being able to give her bad luck to others).

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: The show ends with Marinette and Adrien getting together, with Marinette declaring that everything she went through was worth it and that she's 'incredibly lucky' -- that the fact fate brought them together is 'nothing short of Miraculous!'

The sheer level at which I just cringed in immeasurable.

Anonymous said:

Didn't need the Burrow: A S5 episode will drop before S4 is finished.

Oh! Ahaha, we’ve got a wavelength, anon! I actually already added that one at some point.

Anonymous said:

Didn't need the Burrow: The series will not really make Rose/Juleka canon. They will imply it but the official language used in the episode will be "best friends". Yet on Twitter the creators will pat themselves on the back repeatedly for it

I mean, this already partially happened in “Reflekdoll” so--

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: It'll be confirmed beyond any reasonable doubt that Adrien 100% knows about Marinette's crush when he uses it to manipulate her. Plagg comments on it, and Adrien affirms that he knows, but her feelings don't compare to his own for Ladybug. ('And aren't worth sparing' goes unsaid, but is naturally implied.) Naturally, his manipulation of her is treated as 'clever', and any pain or mortification she feels as a result is just gravy.

Anonymous said:

Didn't Need Burrow: Adrien reveals to Plagg (and the audience) that he's fully aware of Marinette's crush, but refuses to acknowledge it because he doesn't want to 'crush her dreams', comparing it to how Ladybug keeps rejecting him. Making the situation entirely about HIM and how HE feels, even showing some resentment towards her for HAVING that crush for HIM to deal with. Marinette and her feelings are painted as just an ANNOYANCE that he's ignoring, heedless of the impact upon her.

wow i hate them both

thank you, both of you

</3

#category: salt #Didn't Need Burrow

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France is supposed to be an lgbt friendly county, so why is mL lacking lgbt ?

Getting LGBTQ+ representation in media (specifically in this case children’s media) is a struggle and something that most creators have to fight for. It’s easier said than done. When working on television even though it's the creator's vision the story concept and script have to go through multiple hands before being released. Every TV series belongs to a studio that is under a bigger television corporation. In the case of Miraculous Ladybug, it is now a Disney property. There are higher up executives that certain story elements have to go through to get approval and if they feel that certain stuff may be controversial (to a conservative parental audience let’s be real) they will tell them to remove it from their story.

When we do see that representation it comes with the creators having to fight for it and that shouldn’t be ignored. So French creators like Astruc may want to have more of that representation and the country itself may be accepting of the LGBTQ+ but there is always a big corporation getting in the way and thinking that representation makes the show less marketable. Just in the last five years, we’ve seen really amazing LGBTQ+ representation and that was something that did not come easy.

In Miraculous Ladybug, although it hasn’t been explicitly stated only shown we can gather that Juleka and Rose are supposed to be interpreted in a romantic relationship and the same goes with Marc and Nathanial. Speaking of Marc, the character was based on one of Astruc’s friends who is genderfluid and bisexual. Most recently Astruc said that Max was ace and Alix was aro. So there are characters that are supposed to be a part of the community and even though the characters never explicitly stated it in words there are incidents where camera shots and character's actions are alluding to it. And maybe one day they will be able to openly have the characters discuss their sexualities/gender identities but they just did not get the opportunity to be able to because some higher up is only allowing the show so only show so much of it.

In the most recent Miraculous special, the New York special, Majestia’s (aka Olympia Hill) romantic interest is a fellow superhero Knight Owl (aka Barbara Keynes) where the two shared small gestures between the two implying a romantic relationship or at least that they both have established romantic feelings for one another. This is also a special that was created and released while being owned by Disney.

Disney in general has been pretty stubborn with some of their media’s representation. Back when Gravity Falls was airing they shut down a lot of Alex Hirsch’s ideas for LGBTQ+ representation. Even if it was the smallest thing. He planned in Love God something minor like having the cupid character include the transgender symbol on his necklace and stuff like a same-sex romantic kiss was shut down. (In the finale he was finally at least able to get the characters officer characters Sheriff Blubs and Deputy Durland to admit they were in love) A show that premiered a few years later, Star vs the Force of Evil, had a same-sex couple kiss in the background...and when I mean background I mean background. The amount of outrage that sparked from that minor background detail was a lot. Disney now has a show called The Owl House whose lead is bisexual and her love interest is a lesbian and it’s not something that they are trying to allude to it’s very much written out like any of the kids show the couple.

The reason why I brought up these shows is that they all pushed for some sort of representation while premiering shows in the same network. Gravity falls started in 2012, Star Vs the Forces of Evil premiered the same year as Miraculous Ladybug, 2015. Now we are in 2020 with one of Disney’s current shows the Owl House having an LGBTQ+ lead. It wasn’t easy to get there but Disney is now going in the right direction in terms of representation and now that Miraculous Ladybug is a Disney property maybe the characters that we know are apart of the LGBTQ+ but didn’t get their fair chance of showing it explicitly on TV will get the opportunity to do so in the new seasons and specials. We just have to hope that Astruc and ZAG will also push more for those characters part of those communities get the chance to be properly represented as well.

#but yeah there are a lot of obstacles creators have to go through just to throw in #especially at the beginning of the decade #asks #ilovealldrships

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