#ml youtube salt

[mangasstuffcomics]

So cyrus the great is officially the worst lila is a minor and leave Marinette alone how could stay that about 14 year old girl you disgust me

The worst miraculous youtuber to ever exist and his fans are idiots

And his videos are bad please just stop watching miraculous I don't want to see his videos on season 5

#miraculous ladybug #miraculous s5 #miraculous season 5 #marinette dupain cheng #ml youtube salt #cryus the great salt #ml fandom salt #ml fandom critical #lila rossi #Marinette sugar #anti marinette salt

[iwasbored777]

No one:

Literally EVERY Marinette "defensive" analysis on Strikeback be like:

Just the other day I opened one short like "why we should stop trash talking Marinette for season 4 ending" and I'm like "oh finally a Marinette stan" and I opened it and it goes like "because she finally realized it was all her fault and she is trying to grow out of her obsession with Adrien" and I'm like "if you genuinely think this a Marinette defensive video you better stop now. I'd rather have pure Marinette hate than Marinette hate disguised as sugar. Firstly you're wrong and secondly this is how it's done, weaklings 😌💪."

#They got nothing on me #I already have arguments prepared for every Marinette salt I see #miraculous ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #Marinette sugar #ladybug sugar #Ml meme #ml fandom salt #ml youtube salt #marinette deserves better #Marinette deserves a better fandom #Leave Marinette alone challenge #leave her alone #ml strikeback

[applewhitehorse]

I will always prefer underrated MLB YouTubers that spreads positivity than overrated MLB youtubers that hates on everything as a hobby and taking everything out of context

#miraculous ladybug #ml youtube salt #ml fandom salt

[gryficowa]

Let's be honest, Marinette and the rest of the characters put more effort into trashing Chloe herself than into actually helping (And they still have the nerve to say they were trying to help when in reality all they said was "Be nice" and nothing else, it's a strong attempt to avoid making an effort to help, which the person needs)

Yes, I'm pissed, that's why there are so many posts, but seriously, the fandom still believes that the characters tried to help Chloe and it's all her fault because she didn't accept "Help", too bad it wasn't even help (This song fits so well)

Yes, I get annoyed with people in the fandom who say that the characters tried, it's bullshit, they didn't do anything to help her (And that's why they put more effort into destroying her than actually helping her), and empty words are things anyone can say

#ml fandom salt #ml fandom #miraculous fandom #miraculous ladybug au #miraculous #chloe bourgeois #marinette dupain cheng #mlb marinette #miraculous marinette #marinette dupen chang #marinette cheng #adrien #miraculous ladybug #adrien agreste #chat noir #andre bourgeois #thomas astruc #anti thomas astruc #thomas astruc salt #Youtube

[miraculouslbcnreactions]

In Defense of Marinette

I like Marinette. While there are many valid criticisms of her writing, the same can be said for literally every other character and she's actually doing pretty well given that she's the main character. After all, in a show where consistent characterization is an ongoing issue, the one with the most screen time will probably be the one who's the biggest victim of the issue.

This is heavily exacerbated by the rule that supposedly governs Miraculous. Namely that, in each story, Marinette must make a mistake. Or, at least, so says the head writer:

I really do not care what this guy says on Twitter or anywhere else. I only care about what's in the show because, if you have to go outside the text to understand the text, then you have no idea how to tell a good story.

However, unlike many of the tweets that I've seen, this one isn't some BS bit of lore. It's a writing rule and it has substantial backing in the text. It's extremely rare to have an episode where Marinette comes out smelling like roses and that's a problem because Miraculous has over 100 episodes. In other words, to follow this rule, the writers have to come up with over 100 ways for Marinette to be wrong so of course she's going to come across poorly. Why would you do this to your main character?

It's extremely common for kids shows to have a "lesson of the day" element to them. Someone always needs to learn something, but I've never seen a show misunderstand the assignment so badly. Learning a lesson is not the same as doing something wrong.

It's been a while since I watched the 2010 version of My Little Pony, but it really leaned into that whole "lesson of the day" thing and it actually knew what it was doing, so I'm going to talk about it briefly to discuss things that Miraculous should have done.

The first thing to note is that MLP had an unambiguous main character - Twilight Sparkle - but Twilight was not the one who learned all of the lessons. She had a pet dragon and a crew of five friends who would, occasionally, be the ones to learn the lesson because there were lots of lessons that simply didn't fit Twilight's character. Instead of warping Twilight to make the idea work (cough cough Ikari Gozen cough), the writers just let someone else have the spotlight for a bit.

This is an excellent way to build out your cast and Miraculous had plenty of opportunities to do it. For example, Lila should not have been Marinette's issue. The fact that Lila hates Marinette could have certainly stuck around, but the one who takes her down and learns to investigate her sources? That should have been Alya. A liar is the perfect enemy for an investigative journalist, but a poor enemy for someone who shines as a battlefield commander and overthinks when she's given too much time.

Another way that MLP would teach lessons was to have someone other than Twilight or the main crew cause the issue that they then had to deal with. This leads to one of the best moments in children's television:

And, frankly? Marinette deserves a moment like this. That poor girl has been through hell and is never allowed to make the right call when it really matters. The show will even completely rewrite its lore to make her fail (see: Strike Back). That is such an awful thing to do to your lead! Shows about female empowerment should include women feeling powerful and, no, Lila and Chloe don't count!

Also, the show is literally about Gabriel taking advantage of people who are upset. You don't need to have Marinette make a mistake to shoehorn in a life lesson. Akumas are life lesson fodder and season 1 actually seemed to get this. I'm not sure why they switched gears to "Marinette is the star and, therefore, must always be wrong."

The final way that MLP taught lessons was to have Twilight do something wrong because having your main character do something wrong is a totally valid way to teach lessons. It just shouldn't be your only way because you know who is always wrong in children's media?

Villains.

They wrote Marinette like a villain.

And a large part of the fandom hates her for it because of course they do.

You're not supposed to like villains.

#ml writing salt #ml writing critical #marinette deserves better #Youtube #justice for my poor girl #she legitimately has a good base character and she's fun to write if you keep her consistent #The applejack thing crossed my dash a bit ago and I keep thinking about it and feeling sad for Marinette

[xwonderlandresidentx]

Just had someone tell me that Marinette telling Chloe and Audrey that they should bond over being toxic and entitled was okay because she was being sarcastic, and I just gotta say..... no? that doesn't make it better??

Thankfully this person was pretty civil, and open to having an actual conversation about that scene, and by the end of it we came to agree on some things.

But I still wanna blog about it, because I have a lot of feelings.

Even if Marinette was saying it to be ironic, which still isn't an interpretation that I'm fully on board with, but for the sake of argument, even if she was, that's still a horrible thing to say given the circumstances!

Marinette doesn't have to like Chloe, but if her first reaction to seeing a girl her age on the verge of tears while she asks her mother "Why don't you love me?" is to have a laugh and say "Well, you both suck, so you should be glad to be stuck together!" then that is terrible, and petty, and vicious!

If for some reason you wanna have Marinette banter with Chloe about it, at least wait until she isn't in the most vulnerable position possible, baring her deepest trauma while confronting her abuser.

Either way you slice it, Marinette had no right to say what she did! She was either giving harmful advice that she wasn't qualified to give, or she was being downright cruel.

#i didn't uphold my vow to stay away from miraculous youtube content #i am a fool #like i said the person i discussed this with was really open to hearing me out #which was nice #but im sure some people in the fandom still think that what happened in that scene was okay #and i just #*long sigh* #ml fandom salt #ml writing salt #chloe bourgeois #im not really trying to salt on marinette here #moreso the writing around her #but I'll tag it just in case #marinette salt #chloe deserves better

[aguinhaac]

Welp, here we are, the third miraculous special, it has hyped as fuck, we didn’t see the alternative universe, we barely saw the characters everyone hyped, some people thought it was good, some people thought it was bad, but the thing everyone agreed on, was that it didn’t was as good as anyone thought it would be.

But no more talking, let’s do it, today I’ll be reviewing the miraculous special: Miraculous world Paris Tales of Shadybug and Claw Noir

Next time chose a bigger name this ain't big enough-

We start the special with a parody of the intro theme, also they change the animation style, and I am obliged to say, it’s actually good, the lyrics are better than the original theme, because the original intro theme is, let’s say “way to happy” they put a mysterious melody above it in the first seconds and it surprisingly worked.

And the lyrics talk a lot more about change love and hope, WHICH IS WHAT THE ORIGINAL THEME SHOULD TALK ABOUT ISNTEAD OF SAYING “IT’S LADYBUG” FOR HALF OF THE DAMN SONG.

And the new 2D Animation style is extremely pretty, kinda remembers me of miraculous pv, and is another reminder that somethings are better in 2D.

So yeah, good job miraculous team, you did something good, let’s see if you can keep up

(spoiler it didn’t)

And after the lil intro we start, and I really like what they did here.

It starts with a glitchy news article saying that Ladybug and Chat Noir saved everyone again, Gabriel along with Alya asks if this will work, but then Nino shows up running and says that they are coming, and as the roof falls apart and AU Gabriel sends the Akuma (which here are called Kamiko) and kamikotizes Alya.

Betterfly : Ubiquity, I’m Bettefly, I’m giving you the power to connect to the parallel world we have located so we can find help, with this gift I’m exposing you to many parallels and placing a great burden in your shoulders, do you accept it for the greater good?

Alya (AU) : I do.

STOP TALKING THERE’S PEOPLE DYING IN THE STREETS RIGHT NOW AND YOU TWO ARE TALKING LIKE NOTHINGs HAPPENENING, YOU HAVE TO EXPLAIN TO THE 5 YEAR OLDS THAT YOU ARE GOING TO ANOTHER UNIVERSE? WELL MAKE THE AU GABRIEL TELL LADYBUG ALL THAT, THEY ARE GONNA MEET UP LATER, WHY EXPLAIN THIS NOW? IT JUST MAKES THOSE TWO LOOKS LIKE MORONS

And because of that I am not calling you for your real names anymore,

Alya/ubiquity you now will be called Failyla and inability.

And you Gabriel/Betterfly, your name now will be Foolbriel and …. Actually, you super hero name is already stupid.

Anyways even being an old trope, I really like when movies start with the end of the world, its gives kinda a mysterious vibe, it also is a nice way to say that the villains are supper powerful and that the next move of the main character is crucial for the wellbeing of humanity, well that would be if FAILYA AND FOOLBRIEL STOPED TALKING.

Anyways inability transforms and we have this design.

Wait, did I lose something?? Did I blink? What happened? Why is she a ghost now?! No really why doesn’t she has legs? Was the supposed to be a Manta ray or something? Ok if we take of the astonishing colors her design is pretty meh, she’s just a massive cape and a headset, really I rather her old design, yes it doesn’t have the pretty colors but it has more detail, and Alya had legs-

Well, I’ll give her a 6.2/10 it’s ok.

Shadybug and Claw Noir appear trying to be mysterious but they forgot the MLB team already leaked their designs a long time ago and the scene cuts for some well animated intro credits.

We than cut to our Gabriel, just to things don’t get confusing its before Gabriel transforming the miraculous into rings but after the cataclysm, and Gabriel being here now it’s really just for that, so we know which time period is it.

Adrien becomes angstdrien as he had just cataclysmed the guy that tried to kill Paris a billion times, so Plagg gives the worst advice I’ve seen in my life.

Adrien was sad because he was afraid to lose control of his power (which like no? he DID have control over his powers and it was Gabriel who chose to be cataclysmed, but later in season 5 we find out Ladybug told Chat Noir about Chat blanc off scream so I guess it makes sense?)

And Plagg trying to comfort him says “sometimes destroying is the path to build the new”

Adrien was scared to lose control of his powers and hurt people he loves and Plagg tells him that destroying Is the-

We then cut again to Marinette and Alya talking about monarch’s being extremely lucky as Felix got the miraculous in the same day he didn’t want to use his brain so just gave it away from praticaly free-

We also found out that kwamis can turn invisible that… umm kwamibuster? That whole episode wouldn’t have happened if kwamis could turn invisible? That’s why you should write these important details BEFORE publishing a story, but whatev.

I bet all my life savings that this is just here cause in a future episode the writers will pull up a plot armor in the size of my asshole so the heroes don’t get caught.

Alya starts to feel sick and inability comes out of here also making a portal so Betterfly can pass

Betterfly: forgive my intrusion young lady, please don’t be scared, my name is Betterfly, I need someone to lead me to the holders of the miraculous of the Ladybug and black cat.

Uhhhhh, why would she know that? Like Betterfly doesn’t know who she is, in his eyes she’s just a normal ass teenager, how the fuck would a normal ass teenager be able to lead someone to two superheroes? Does he think that the heroes would just leave a gigantic ass outdoor sayin “if someone want to find us we will be at the Eiffel tower from 8pm – 10pm” or something?

Marinette: Ladybug and Chat Noir? But I don’t know how to find them, I don’t know them. I’m just Marinette, a normal girl.

Betterfly: I beg you, please, they’re my last hope

WHY WOULD SHE KNOW? I think the writers really wanted to make Foolbriel stupid, not joking, Shadybug and Claw Noir were able to find his hiding spot, this may be a sign that just like the original Gabriel, he is also a moron.

Inability then gains the original Alya conscience and Betterfly explains that she connected with Alya to open a gate between the worlds.

And like that is some shit power, we saw hawk moth making people be able to pause time, freeze people, make hurricanes, Akumas that are extremely powerful and there’s literally no but to their powers, but with inability he just, couldn’t make both of em be able to stay in this dimension, I’m telling you HE IS A MORON.

For a moment Failya comes and says they are coming so Betterfly takes Marinette away.

And I think it’s just really funny how Betterfly says that they are merciless but then 5 seconds later Claw Noir sends Nino back to his dimension unharmed, like, just actions truly merciless bastards would have.

Shadybug then restrains Alya using Claw Noir’s tail, Claw Noir then cataclysms Marinette’s roof and well done Clawny, self sentered brats like Marinette don’t deserve to have a roof

Betterfly then releases… Failya from the power he gave her

Excuse me what? She has the ability to teleport thro dimensions, if she just controlled her power a little bit THAT’S LITTERALY TELEPORTATION, YOU SAID NO TO TELEPORTATION? WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU?

Also, the character that is in every poster barely appears.. Nice.

Alya then transforms back to normal and calls Marinette using her notebook.

While that Shittybug and clown Noir- I MEAN Shadybug and Claw Noir try to find a stupid moron, then Shadybug uses her lucky charm and gets a binoculus that can detect butterfly fare helms, and she already knows what they are and what they do so I guess Shadybug can choose what she gets, this or the writers forgot that Ladybug should find out what the object do.

Betterfly puts Marinette in the Eiffel tower just before his Kamiko appears.

when they showed that Akumas are now Kamikos I thought to myself, hey Akuma is “demon” in Japanese so maybe kamiko means “angel” that would be cool.

So I searched it up and kamiko means ….upper elementary school…

ANYWAYS- they made failya not be a part of this special cause they needed a way for the villains to found the heroes so Shady and Clawny followed Betterfly upper elementary school and found him, this is miraculous, everyone knew from the beginning that at some time the writers would pull out some bullshit to keep the plot going.

Well Claw Noir cataclysms part of the Eiffel tower so both of them fall and Betterfly hides under a wall

The villains say if he doesn’t come out to play, they’re going to destroy the city, so Betterfly comes out and starts fighting the two, also the villains give us some exposition that Betterfly stole the butterfly miraculous and really? WOW, HOW WERE THEY WERE ABLE TO LOSE A MIRACULOUS FOR THIS GUY, THIS GUY, WHAT DID YOU HAVE FOR A SECURITY SISTEM? A WATERGUN?

Only now Marinette receives the call Alya gave her two hours ago.

Tikki: they’re the holders of the miraculous of the Ladybug and the black cat from one of the billions of parallel universes in existence.

Ok now we are going to play a new game. Which is called

GUESS WHICH MIDIA THIS WAS COPIED FROM?

a) The MCU

b) Undertale

c) Spiderverse

Also, if Tikki knew that, why didn’t she tell Betterfly he was carrying his last hope? Tikki is an asshole.

Marinette: PARALEL UNIVERSES? Why didn’t you tell me about this?

Oh Marinette, it’s because you live in a multiverse that wasn’t predetermined yet, so just like time travel, kwami powers, people, who gets good or not, and billions and billions of others things, it only became a thing now!

The villains also tell us that they work for “the supreme” and Betterfly stole the miraculous from him.

And we get explained why Shadybug and Claw Noir can use their powers multiple times without transforming back.

It’s because different from the original Ladybug and cat Noir those two are a bit older, making them being able to use it as many times as they want, this age change was foreshadowed in the beginning of the special when it was shown Nino Alya and max helped Betterfly, Betterfly can be an idiot but at least he isn’t irresponsible, he would never get teenagers to help him stop merciless tyrants.

Just kidding lol, actually the younger holders transform back cause using a miraculous doesn’t drain power only for the kwami but for the holder too, so the miraculous comes with a security system that makes them only be able to use it for a limited time because if they stay with it too much it makes the miraculous dangerous, but how shittybug and cloth Noir are using it for EViL they can go through this security system, but beware, as this has terrible consequences we never see.

how only Tikki gets tired after transforming if it drains energy from both of them? how Ladybug can spend how much time she wants with the costume if she doesn’t use the lucky charm as even if the doesn’t use lucky charm the miraculous is still draining her energy? Who knows who cares.

Marinette then transforms.

Betterfly says that it’s not too late, but this isn’t steven universe so SLAhadybug still try to grab his miraculous, but then Ladybug shows up.

Ladybug says that miraculous are supposed to be used for good but again, we are not in steven universe and no one change their mind that easily, so they start fighting.

While they fight SB (Shady bug) is able to throw LB (Ladybug) a wall, and as Betterfly see his last hope has been beated the shit out of he at least will help out the kid.

SB then uses her lucky charm and gets a car which she throws at the heroes.

THIS IS WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAY THE VILLAINS ARE TOO KIND.

IF THEY WERE REAL VILLAINS THEY WOULD GET SOMEONE ELSE’S CAR, WHERE’S THE PROPERTY DAMAGE DAMMIT? ALMOST EVERY VILLAIN IN THIS SHOW DESTROYS THE EIFEL TOWER, YOU ARE TRULY MERCYLESS? PROVE IT, SURPRISE ME.

Chat Noir comes out of nowhere to ruin my day as both Chat Noir and Claw Noir has the same first letters and I don’t know how to simplify their names without it getting confusing.

Chat and Claw start fighting but Chat grab Claw and threaten to cataclysm him, but Chat didn’t know that Claw, as a good emo is also depressed as fuck, so Claw grabs Chat’s hand and cataclysm himself and throws Chat into a random roof.

Betterfly then is able to free himself and LB.

LB: enough is enough! The miraculous are not created to cause harm!

Claw Noir: and what makes you so wideous cockrough? You are the superpower police?

LB: LUCKY CHARM

LB: A traffic cone?

oh she really IS the police huh?

As Claw Noir hates laws, he destroys LB’s trafficking cone, THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT, WITHOUT THE TRAFFIC CONE PEOPLE ARE GONNA HAVE ACIDENTS, EVIL STUFF, WELL DONE CLAW NOIR!

Chat shows up so LB tells they are not Akumatized and that BF (Betterfly) exists. SD then throws high hells at them? bro u a villain DO EVIL STUFF, GET A ROCKET LAUNCHER OR SOMETHING. YOU PARTHNER IS MUCH BETTER THAN YOU AT BEEING EVIL.

Oh she actually got a rocket Laucher, STILL PATHETIC THOUGH

They fight a big more, and as BF can’t do much, he Kamikotizes Chat, and for the first time in 5 seasons, more than 100 episodes, we see how it’s like to be Akumatized.

As time looks like passes slower and his head is stuck in a void, Chat realizes he can’t move, but before he can panic….. a voice… a whisper…

“Celestic cat, I’m Betterfly”

With a voice as gentle as a million butterflies,

no.. NO… GET OUT OF MY HEAD

“do not worry as I’m not your enemy”

It feeds you with pretty lies

NO! I WON’T FALL FOR YOUR TRICKS

“I am not your enemy, I only want to trust you with the power to save us”

I can’t know if you’re telling the truth… I don’t even know you

“I only work for the greater good, just like you celestic cat”

“do you accept this gift I am offering you?”

……….I- I do.

Is this really how this scene plays out? No. I just wanted to set a darker tone before I show you the “celestic chat”

The first time I watched this, I started stared laughing uncontrollably for a good minute, I didn’t knew what to say or what to think, as I was dying only one think was in my mind, what the fuck?-

WHO MADE THIS? I CAN’T BELIVE A HUMAN WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THIS, THEY DIDN’T TRY AT ALL, THEY JUST TOOK CAT BLANC AND PUTTED WINGS ON IT, THIS A FUCKING WATPAD FANFIC, IS LADYBUG GONNA ACTIVATE HER PTSD OF CHAT BLANC AND FALL ON CHAT’S ARMS TOO? Not only the whole concept of the episode is a big fanfic but now even the FUCKING CHARACTERS. I won’t even say anything about the character desing man, just fuck off.

celestial joke than grabs LB and BF and then flies aways, but SB uses lucky charm and gets sunglasses so she used her yoyo to hang on celestial joke’s tail, CJ (celestial joke) sees this and try to shake her off, considering that LB and BF are also there that’s a great idea because they deserve to fall off a 200 meters fall-

SB then trades the sunglasses for a fire Laucher but LB uses a thing called brain and just unbuttons Chat’s belt.

SB falls to her death as Claw Noir just watches it eating some popcorn, he then tries to grab SB miraculous but she wakes up and grab him.

Back to the morons, they go to the sewers cause why not? where CJ detransforms for some reason? Like he is a joke BUT WHAT THE FUCK? YOU CAN FLY! WHY WOULD YOU DETRASFORM?

Anyways Gabriel talks for the billionth time to his dead wife but he feels the best duo of the show fighting so its Akumatization time baby!

However, Claw still has the cataclysm so he cataclysms the Akuma and both calm down.

They then go back to Marinette’s broken room, Alya hides and they start looking for clues to why the portal was there of all places.

The scene then cuts to LB and Chat detrasforming and like. they both have the same identities even if in different worlds, they why don’t BF just tells them his identity? Ok I’ll give the benefit of the doubt, maybe he doesn’t know about monarch.

Anyways BF talks a bit about his world, there is an extremely powerful man who owns all the miraculous and so they set up a dictatorship where there’s nothing but hate. Ok they copied it from north Korea got it. Anyways he gave out some miraculous to powerful people who were loyal to him. But then Foolbriel steeled two miraculous to get Emely back, so to redeem himself he now is a good guy.

The scene cuts again to SB and Claw who are still in Marinette’s bedroom, SB finds Mari’s diary and start reading some of it, also discovering in the process that she is Ladybug, as she read more and more, she can’t help it but cry, but then she found out about what happens if someone has both the Ladybug and black cat miraculous.

Shadybug then uses her lucky charm and gets handcuffs, she than restrains Claw and take his miraculous, discovering who he was, and the Tumblr goes crazy once again as AU Adrien has a crush of AU Marinette.

Au Marinette reveals Plagg and Tikki and tries to use Gimmi but it glitches out, which makes her be thrown in the wall breaking the mirror

Sabrine: Marinette? Is everything all right?

Au Marinette: YEAH WHATEVER JUST, GET OF MY BACK

Sabrine: are you sure you’re ok sweetheart?

Au Marinette: YES, I’M OK I’M…. sorry mommy dear I just dropped my sawing machine, but it’s fine is just… slightly damaged

Sabrine: don’t worry sweetie we will take care of it! Broken things can always be fixed.

ok let’s say what it’s on everyone’s mind for a long time, we all would rather watch this other version of miraculous, the characters are more charismatic and realistic, the world seems more interesting, the world seems more interesting, there is an actual threat cause Foolbriel doesn’t have the power to fix everything, it is just way better than to watch two teenagers in a will they won’t they relationship for more than 100 episodes.

anyways au Marinette transforms back take off the handcuffs from au Adrien and gives back his miraculous, au Marinette starts crying and Claw tries to comfort her but it doesn’t work for obvious reasons.

Claw: how come the supreme never told us that merging our kwamis would grand us any wish we wanted?

Shady: For the same reason he never told us that using our powers would slowly destroy us.

Like, no? were 27 minutes in and you didn’t show any sign of being sick, like they now have some cracks in their necks but I think that if you’re getting every single inch of energy being drained out of your body it would do more than giving you some crack stickers.

Monarch shows up and the two try to attack him with no result cause of the determination miraculous, and also, I think it’s really funny cause, SD activates her lucky charm and gets a sword to attack him, but it doesn’t work cause he has the miraculous of determination, yet in the episode “determination” Manipula gets beaten cause of a chandelier, consistence.

Well, the duo team up with monarch and for some reason Alya starts filming it to show it to Marinette, like why? WHY WOULD SHE STOP WHAT SHE’S DOING TO SEE A VIDEO? IT’S NOT HARD TO BELIEVE THEY WOULD TEAM UP WITH MONARCH, YOU’LL JUST WASTING TIME.

Actually, I lied, SHE DIDN’T SENT THE VIDEO OR A MESSEGE, SHE CALLED HER INSTEAD, BECAUSE THAT WILL TOTALLY WORK, WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS SHOW?

Alya trying to compete who is the stupidest with Betterfly screams around for Ladybug and then shows the video, instead of you know, JUST TELLING HIM THE PLAN WHICH WOULD NOT WASTE SO MANY TIME.

Well, monarch’s plan is to make SD and Claw noir illusions to force the heroes to split up and then get em, LB however starts having a panic attack, but Chat comforts her because after season 4 the writers really need to shove up that he is not a sociopathic maniac.

Well LB makes a plan which is, they will get out of Paris so monarch wont mess with their plans, and Betterfly will Kamikotizes Alya in uniquity, so he will HIDE HIS IDENTIRY AND GIVE LADYBUG THE BUTTERFLY MIRACULOUS SO SHE CAN CREATE AN KAMIKO TO PROTECT THEM AND HIDE THE KAMIKO ELSEWHERE.

WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK, if this show made the least bit of sense, BF would show his identity SO THEY CAN STOP ALL THE SUFFERING OF THE PEOPLE OF PARIS.

Anyways they perform their little plan and we see Ladybug with both the butterfly and Ladybug

Ok we have some weak material here.. first of, this shade of purple doesn't go along with ladybug's neon red, I don't know if it was Purposeful but this black detail around her neck highlights her boobs a lot

They didnt even change her mask, they put some purple highlights and that's it, it's just kinda sad, I saw 10 year olds drawing something better than this.

Ok positives, I think her gloves are extremamly pretty and complement well her desing, the ladybug things in her hair are cool I guess.

I am really trying but this desing is overall just lazy, just like most original designs of this special really, well 4.5/10 lady fly really? Her name is ladyfly? LADY FUCKING FLY?

obviously, monarch Dekamikotizes uniquity but that was part of LB’s plan as she and Chat plays to pretend they didn’t knew about the illusion stuff, so monarch creates a portal for the evil duo and Claw and Chat Shady and lady start fighting, monarch also fuses with the bee the rat and the rooster miraculous, turns himself invisible and tries to paralyze Chat and LB, because of the powers of the Kamiko instead of paralyzing the monarch copies turn to feathers, now the butterfly is more powerful then the bee? Ok then I guess.

Monarch undoes the clones and quickly realizes it’s a trap, LB then activates her lucky charm which is a mirror, SB then accidently reveals that she read Mari’s diary and that her life sucks, LB uses the ‘we are not so different’ but it obviously doesn’t work, and SB reveals that Chloe made her suffer every day until the supreme came, Astruc, Chloe is already out of the show, COULD YOU STOP DEMONIZING HER FOR 5 SECONDS? Also, that would not be enough to make someone into a villain, don’t get me wrong bullying is horrible, I myself was a victim of bullying and I know how bad it feels, but WHAT THE FUCK THE CHLOE OF THIS WORLD DID? DID SHE KILLED MARINETTE’S GRANDMA OR SOMETHING?

Well, Marinette detransforms thinking that somehow this will help,

The scene then cuts to Chat and Claw fighting and there’s a joke that they argue if cats like water, just quality comedy.

Well Claw reveals that he wants Chat’s miraculous to make a wish and bring his mom back which is better, “my mom died so now I’m evil” then “oh noo, Chloe ruined my favorite pants, now I’m willing to kill people”

Marinette: if you read my diary then you know, it’s not all that easy, everything often hangs by a thread, I too was very angry, I too was hurt, I too was scared, and I still struggle with it every day, you don’t need any magical jewel, powers didn’t change my life, I changed the way I saw myself, I decided to love myself, to love the world around me, and I decided I could fix what’s wrong with it, and I’m sure if you change the way you see yourself, and your world, you will be able to fix what’s wrong with it too, just like I do here every time, you can fix it all.

Ok I need to say, the way they copied steven universe so well surprised me, like you got the rushed redemption arc for someone who didn’t deserve, u got the main character completely ignoring the other character problems so they can say “don’t worry I can fix you” you got the main character thinking they struggles were similar even if one was extremely more serious than the other, it really looks like steven universe, I thought when Marinette stopped monologuing, she would start singing change.

Ok being serious now, this is just another exemple of how Marinette is an ashole, she acts like their problem is similar but it isn’t, au Marinette lives in a dictatorship, we see how their Paris is in the first seconds, and look how it is

Red clouds, destruction, fear, the characters say multiple times, things in their dimension are not good

SB: IN THE WORLD THAT I’M FROM, THERE ARE NO AWESOME GIRL FRIENDS TO INSPIRE ME EVERYDAY, NO AMAZING BFF LET ALONE A CALM AND GENTLE MOTH OR A BOY FRIEND WHO DOSEN’T THINK I’M A TOTAL LOSER!

BF: Your world is so different is so beautiful, you help each other you are partners, in mine any form of neutral aid is a crime

SB: no wish will save us.

BF: in my world I’m hunted relentlessly, no one believes in heroes, everyone is afraid of the supreme

Shady bug lives in somethings that is almost a north Korea, she’s trying to escape from her world, so she can be happy, it’s not as simple as Marinette makes it to be, Shady never had someone to be there for her, that’s why when the supreme helped her she immediately started working for him, in her world “love” isn’t a thing, I hate how Marinette put Shady’s problems like it’s something not so hard to resolve and like she knows what real suffer means, “it’s not all that easy, everything often hangs by a thread, I too was very angry, I too was hurt” yes, Marinette’s life wasn’t perfect, but it was 100 times better than Shady’s, but the writers want to make Marinette be the great hero of everything, even in situations she can’t be, you know who would be better to help Shady? Failya, au Nino, au max, people who actually know what she’s going through, God even fucking Betterfly would be better at helping her then Marinette, but the writers instead just want to make her an amazing person, and really that’s one of the main causes of a bad redemption arc, the character who needs to be changed, gets changed by someone who can’t change them.

But after this bullshit we have Chat and Claw, which really, again is rushed and not deserved, but I think the writers did the best they could do.

Adrien: I know you, you know?

Claw: no, you don’t! don’t pretend to be me, or else you wouldn’t be friends with a cockroach, if you were me your mother would also be-

Adrien: she is…

Claw: what?..... if you knew about the wish, why haven’t you tried it?

Adrien: I won’t tell you that I never thought about it, of course I thought about it, but.. everything comes at a price, if my mother came back

Claw: OUR mother

Adrien: if we brough our mother back, someone else would have to lose theirs, and that I can’t wish on anyone.

Adrien: I managed to go on living, trying to be happy as she wanted me to, I have my friends to comfort me, I’m ok now, as well as I can be anyway, it must be painful for someone who doesn’t have close friends, or anyone to comfort them,

Claw: Someone, but me?

Adrien: Only you can decide not to be alone.

Adrien: I can tell you about my friends from this world, you should meet them in yours, you’ll probably get along, take Nino for example.

Claw: Nino? I don’t think he will wanna be buddies with me considering how I treated him.

Adrien: he’s the most understanding person I know, just apologize and invite him to the movies, his favorite film is called space mutants vs ghost shark.

Claw: ha it sounds terrible.

Adrien: let’s say it’s the movie with the most improbable storyline I’ve ever seen.

Claw: and yet… you’re really making me wanna watch it.

This is why, even if Chat Noir is a useless selfish crybaby, even if Adrien in season 4 was the biggest asshole I’ve ever seen, even if in season five he is horrible, I still don’t hate him, for these little moments, where he shows that he is a good person.

He says that he thought multiple times of using the wish to bring his mom back, but never did because he knew it would take someone else mom away, it makes him feel real, as he thought about it but he didn’t want to make someone suffer so he could be happy.

He says “I’m ok now, as well as I can be anyway” showing that he’s telling Claw that even if he’s able to move on, it will still hurt, not like Marinette who says that everything is gonna be fine just so Shady stop fighting, he is truly opening his heart with Claw.

When he says “it must be painful for someone who doesn’t have close friends, or anyone to comfort them” it shows that Adrien knows Claw has gone through worse than him, and yet he still wants to help the best he can.

He slowly tries talking that claw doesn’t need to be alone, changing his tone but not making it about himself, but when claw feels Nino could never forgive him, Adrien gives him some tips of what to do.

And for last, Adrien is someone that knows better than Marinette what their villain contra part is feeling, so he is capable of helping him, or at least trying.

That’s why I like Adrien, most of the time he’s on scream it feels like he’s not perfect but he’s trying to do good.

This scene alone, gives this character that has been nothing but an asshole, a moment so the audience remember what made them fall in love with him for the first time, the fact that he Is trying.

But then came re- creation and ruined this touching moment cause Emelie is alive, yeeey

Fuck you miraculous team.

Well SB uses a miraculous Shadybug fixing everything and apparently changing her custom as well.

Shadybug and Claw Noir change personalities completely cause, why make have the same personality but make it obvious they are trying to change. when you can just copy paste the personalities of the two main heroes in them amirite?

They also pick other names cause toxinelle and griffe Noire are kinda cringe.

Shadybug: hmm, I’ll call myself Ladybug, the best there is.

Yeah, writers make her give up her identity just to be like someone she admires instead of being her own person, WHAT A GREAT MESSENGE TO TEACH KIDS. FUCK YOU

Well Betterfly Kamikokitizes Alya, while that, monarch fuses with the rooster and for some reason he receives a feather and he has to write what power he wants? Ok, if you say that now the rooster powers activate like this who am I to question?

Monarch asks for having access for any other dimension, wait but wouldn’t that be a wish? Destruction says “if the user wanted a pair of socks, that would be a wish, but if the user wanted to knit a pair of socks, that would be an ability” that’s why you don’t let things so vague, PEOPLE WILL GET CONFUSED.

Well inability fells something is off and Ladybug realizes it is monarch, so bettefly dekamikokitizes Alya and Kamikokitizes Ladybug who becomes

HATSU NIMIKU?

Well monarch goes to a universe where scarabella and shitty Noire are the heroes cause the miraculous animators don’t have enough budget to make more character models, so he tries

Don’t play with my feelings like this… you son of a bitch.

Well, he also tries a manga one but then…

Wait.. I thought that what was going on was that Gabriel was jumping from universe to universe and the original LB was following him, but apparently not? If lady noire is here that means all universes where a Marinette is a main hero, they become hatsu nimiku. But who would be Kamikotizing them? is the show trying to tell us that this au jumping betterfly shady and claw did happen to all universes? But that also must mean there are thousands of monarch’s jumping from universe to universe, and now he knows that he can jump through multiverses he can just wait for all betterflies to leave to their Aus and thousands of ladybugs and chat noirs will have to fight alternative universes monarchs, and because the ladybugs aren’t cosplaying hatsu nimiku anymore they won’t have the power to send them back, there will be thousands of monarchs running around and no one will be able to do anything as just MONARCH’S can teleport through dimensions, and if that happens the multiverse will become a fucking caos because the writers don’t see that this IS FUCKING STUPID.

Gabriel gives up and never tries this actually good idea ever again, and the 3 idiots fuck of to their dimensions, I’m done, I don’t wanna talk about this episode anymore I’M FUCKING DONE.

Ok, this special is bad but it doesn’t hurt me THAT much, the characters are morons, you don’t feel the villains are a threat, and the fact that they change their minds so fast doesn’t help, talking about the redemption arc, they are hiporitical saying that shady and claw can change because they suffered so they deserve to be forgiven but chloe, who's also a teenager who suffered, but didn't do not even close to what shady and claw must have done, is just a heartless monster, the special feels so out of place sometimes, like it should have been in an earlier season, the writers pull up the most nonsensical things just to keep the plot going, and characters that people hyped don’t have not nearly enough screentime, the special was supposed to be “what if the butterfly was used for good” but we don’t see much of betterfly using his powers, almost all the new hero designs are lazy, they just put more work on the ones they saw they could do merch of it( cause if you don't know there's already merch)

overall, it isn’t painfully bad like most episodes of season 5 but it is not good either, you need to turn off your brain to enjoy it, and there would be no problem on it, cartons that you just turn off your brain and enjoy are not something bad, the thing is miraculous is trying to be a deep story, but it fails. Well, I’ll give the special a 6/10 whatev.

Thanks for reading until the end, I’ll see you in the next post.

#miraculous ladybug #mlb #miraculous #ml #miraculous salt #mlb salt #mlb sucks #miraculous ladybug salt #ml salt #miraculous paris #miraculous special #mlb paris #mlb paris special #mlb paris spoilers #shadybug #claw noir #betterfly #mlb special #Youtube

[stellarlex]

I literally had somebody on YouTube tell me that Marinette isn’t traumatized by Chat Blanc.

#miraculous ladybug #ml salt #marinette dupain cheng #marinette deserves better #marinette sugar #chat blanc #I couldn’t believe it when I read it #one of the stupidest things I’ve ever heard someone say on YouTube #and that’s saying a lot #He was literally featured in a nightmare she had of Hawk Moth winning #those dreams were literally a culmination of what she believes are her biggest mistakes #chat Blanc destroyed the world and nearly the universe #and she wasn’t traumatized? #kindly fuck off

[wisconsin2002]

Me seeing this video tear apart every cope argument that people were making after the season 5 finale to justify the way the writers treated Adriens character :

It's videos like that gives me the slightest pinch of hope in this fandom.

#ml writers salt #mlb salt #Youtube

[stormiclown]

I know I might get bashed like hell for this but I don't care: Chat Noir and Ladybug are realistically the weakest Cat and Ladybug miraculous holders of their respective legacies.

And it's not just them. Every single Parisian hero of the current generation, from Rena Rouge to Viperion, are significantly weaker in terms of skill and power than their predecessors.

This isn't their fault entirely, as Ladybug and co have more disadvantages than the heroes that have come before them and there are those who don't take the job seriously [Chat Noir and Queen Bee].

They're Very Young

The first most glaring issue is the fact that they are still minors. The most consistent rule of the show is that a miraculous being used by a child is like the free trial version of a streaming service. Five minutes after using their special power, they will de-transform and will need to feed their kwami to resume their transformation. Unlike Hawkmoth and Mayura who can keep up their transformation even after using an akuma/amok, Ladybug and Chat Noir have to proceed with caution because they aren't grownups which limits their ability to fight all out. This is especially the case with Chat Noir and Ladybug as they are the main superheroes and characters used to emphasize this rule.

If the wiki is to be believed, then previous Ladybugs like La Déesse Coccinelle, Piao Chong, Tentomushi, Jeanne d'Arc (in the mlb universe), and Mudangbeolle were all adults according to their respective time periods and didn't have the same restrictions that the current Ladybug has. The same could be said about previous foxes, bees, turtles, snakes etc.

They Lack the Necessary Training

The second drawback that Marinette and Adrien have are their backgrounds. More specifically, their comfortable lifestyles. Marinette in particular, went from a clumsy girl who lived a normal life to a beloved superheroine in just one day. Not that there's anything wrong with that on a character level, but on a logical level it makes sense for her to be ill prepared for the duties of a hero at first. She was thrusted into it suddenly with no training [something I see is regularly addressed in crossover fanfictions with Batman and the DCU] or any background in combat, the latter she had to learn on her own. Though it's hinted at that Sabine is an exceptional fighter, it's pretty clear that she taught none of it to Marinette.

Adrien at least has some combat training in the form of fencing which is evident in the way he uses his staff like a fencing saber. But as someone who has been fencing since I was seven and been up against many talented opponents, Adrien strikes me as mediocre at best. He beats Kagami in Riposte sure, but by real fencing standards Adrien would be slaughtered by someone who had been trained their entire life to be an Olympic worthy fencer [Kagami].

I'm bringing this up because literally every past Ladybug, Black, and others have experience in combat, were vigilantes in armies, were warriors before using their miraculous, or fought in actual wars therefore becoming hardened veterans. In this category Adrien [again, even though he's mediocre] and Kagami are the only heroes of the current generation who have previous training in the form of a combat-oriented sport. Though, in my opinion, Kagami as Ryuko is the only hero that can hold a candle to her predecessors.

Alya, Nino, and Chloe are also very weak in this regard due to the aforementioned reasons above. They all have comfortable lifestyles and were thrusted into the world of heroes without any training or focus. Chloe nearly ran into a wall because she wasn't paying attention and Alya needed to be guilt tripped into giving the miraculous to Ladybug by Trixx. You can make the argument that the miraculous costumes make up for their lack of actual experience, which is 100% valid, but I can also argue that having battle training or any sort of athleticism can make a hero even more effective. I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion, but Kagami will always be the most effective and skilled temporary hero as evidenced by her being able to piece together her transformation phase, her attention to detail, her impressive battle awareness and her ability to right her mistakes [jumping into the fight without listening to Ladybug's plan in Ikari Gozen] with her quick thinking. Say what you will about her, but Kagami is objectively the best candidate to be a permanent hero, especially since Chat Noir has been demoted to sidekick/temporary hero status.

[Kim is also an athletic person, but his skill is in swimming, which isn't helpful unless he has an aqua form, which he doesn't so ehh]

They Have Little to No Knowledge of Their Own Powers

The third thing that the heroes have going against them is their lack of knowledge about their powers. By this point in the series, the heroes are just going with the flow and figuring things out for themselves as they go along.

As we know, these are the first heroes since the Order of the Guardians was destroyed. This context is important because in Feast, we learn that countless grimoires and Miracle Boxes burned away or eaten.

The miraculous date back to Ancient Times so there had to have been thousands of years of documented information about the miraculous of the Chinese Miracle Box. I'm not even going to say it's an assumption. It has to be a fact that there were secrets about each miraculous including how to train each Guardian that would have been extremely helpful to Ladybug and the others if they had access to it. Master Fu is responsible for tens of thousands of years' worth of knowledge being snuffed out in just one night.

This puts the heroes who wielded a miraculous after the Order was destroyed at a significant, almost sad disadvantage to those who were heroes before the Order fell. It's highly likely that after gaining their miraculous, previous heroes had access to the archive in which they could learn to utilize their powers to their absolute fullest potential. Whereas with the current heroes, it feels like they can only use a fraction of their miraculous's abilities.

Another problem with their lack of knowledge is the time separating Ladybug and Chat Noir from their predecessors. Bo Rua and an unnamed Vietnamese Black Cat were the last LadyCat duo before Feast swallowed the Order, with Adrien and Marinette being their immediate successors. However, Master Fu was confirmed to be in his 180s when he relinquished the Miracle Box to Marinette and Austruc confirmed Bo Rua and her partner to be in their early twenties, meaning that Bo Rua and LadyNoir have over 200 years separating them, confirming that their knowledge was lost over time after they died and can only be recovered by speaking to their spirits like in Reunion [which I have several complaints about]. Master Fu is obviously lacking knowledge about the miraculous to a severe degree, so it makes sense for Chat Noir and Ladybug to as well.

I'm not bashing Adrien and Marinette and co for being objectively weak because it makes so much sense. They lack proper training, they're kids with set limits on their powers, and they don't have access to crucial information that would've probably led them to defeat Hawkmoth by now. Sure, the two of them [more so Marinette] are the strongest heroes of their generation but if you put them up against their forebearers, they would be massacred with no difficulty whatsoever.

The show would be 100 times more interesting if this was acknowledged, which would lead to the introduction of the previous holders in a more natural and useful way.

[If I missed anything, any reblogs with your personal opinions on the matter will be very appreciated]

#ml salt #ml writers salt #miraculous ladybug #cat noir #adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #adrien salt #it's very minor but still #Youtube

[mangasstuffcomics]

It's time to rant about ml fandom specifically the youtube side of it I can't stand these individuals

Let's start cryus the great the worst youtuber in the ml fandom and represents a problem in ml fandom basically hating on Adrien marinette and alya while stanning g chloe and lila not even joking dude called lila his waifu

That whole video of him hating on Marinette

while making exuses for chloe and that's in genral I've seen people downplay chloe and lila behavior genuinely I've seen people say that lila and chloe behavior is that of normal teenage girls and that lila lies are harmless

Marinette got expelled because of lila not only that but has committed attemped murder and worked with terrorist same for chloe who's bullies everbody including Marinette and also worked with a terrorist

How are you claiming that Marinette is worse than them things I've seen Marinette be called a physco a yandere and some other things

And here's thing that gets me hypocrisy one character can do something it's fine and when other character does it there awful

Now the Adrien and Marinette salters while aleats a part of them ship lukanette infact I've seen a entire salt post on why luka is better than Adrien that tried to make Adrien look bad his also been called a harraser and sexual assuter

I've seen adrigami shippers who do simular things when it's comes to Marinette and the salters of Marinette

Usually include chloe lila and Adrien stans and the vast majority of Adrien salters stan Marinette and ship lukanette

Hating characters over ships really how childish is this fandom

I need to remind this fandom that the characters are 14 stop expecting them to think and act likev adults stop holding them to the same standard you'd hold to a adult

#miraculous ladybug season 5 #mlb #miraculous ladybug #Adrien agreste #marinette dupain cheng #ml fandom salt #adrien sugar #Marinette sugar #anti marinette salt #anti adrien salt #anti alya salt #anti chloe bourgeois #anti lila rossi #ml youtube salt

[iwasbored777]

I hope one day someone will love Marinette just like YouTube alone hates Marinette. And this is not even the half of it. I could barely fit all these vids AND I WON'T EVEN TALK ABOUT THE COMMENTS OH MY GOD! Literally combine ALL ML characters' salt and you won't get enough salt to cover up Marinette's. When I said that if the amount of Marinette love was as big as the amount of Marinette hate we would've achieved world peace this is what I meant.

But you know what? I could let these vids make me hate her, but I just...don't. I love her, my reasons are bigger than theirs. And those vids are all the same. It's like watching the same one a few times in a row. Rip to YT but I'm different.

#Fuck youtube #I never liked it anyway #People are just angry as if I killed their moms #miraculous ladybug #marinette dupain cheng #ladybug #leave marinette alone challenge #ml youtube salt #Marinette deserves better #marinette deserves a better fandom #Marinette sugar #Ladybug sugar

[miraculouscriticismshub]

Disclaimers: these are all the MLB youtube channels I can name off the top of my head so don't be surprised if your fav channel is not on their

#miraculous ladybug #mlb #mlb season five #mlb salt #mlb season 5 spoilers #mlb writers salt #astruc salt #mlb youtube #yt #youtube #ml youtube #mlb poll #ml poll

[anxresi]

NEWSFLASH: Pink-Streaked Plot Device Confesses Crush To Equally ‘Perfect’ Protagonist. A Nation Of Undemanding Fans Weep.

May I offer a few stray observations?

1. Zoe is not ‘Amazing’, Marinette. She’s just written that way. (Bonus points if you can catch the movie reference there) 

She’s obviously SUPPOSED to be because she has so many friends and loved ones, can do everything she puts her mind to SO well and hasn’t got a single fault in her oh-so-sweet personality. 

The problem with being so gosh-darn flawless though, is that you’re straight-out BORING... especially when put into the confines of a TV show where we expect the characters to be more than just insipid one-dimensional goodie-two-shoes. 

If only they had someone better to replace her, like a rebellious anti-hero... with many layers to their character and plenty of scope for growth and change... yes, that would be MUCH more interesting than a perpetually shilled Creator’s Pet...

Oops, they already got rid of her. So sorry, my mistake.

2. People should be honored to be ‘loved’ by Zoe? 

Not really. She probably ‘loves’ everyone, due to her single-note ‘nicey nice’ persona excluding her from expressing any mild distaste about anyone. Including her own newly-psychotic sister, who’s probably told her she despises her for years.

 She’d probably skip merrily into whatever-bullshit-name-Hawkmoth-has-these-days’ lair in a yellow sundress and a basket full of oatmeal cookies, give him a little kiss on the cheek before prancing out singing ‘Tomorrow’ from Annie, leaving a trail of fluffy bunny wabbits and freshly-bloomed daisies in her wake. 

Aaawww! *Retch*

3. “Adrien’s not the one I’m in love with...” OOOH HERE IT COMES! BRACE YOURSELVES...

4. ...AAANND like a deflated balloon, a broken swing and a show running out of ideas so quickly it shoves in these ‘serious’ moments that’ll never be referenced again, Zoe never explicitly says those three magic words (Alakazam, abracadabra and hocus pocus, right?)

I guess she wanted to be ‘special friends’ with Marinette the same way Rose and Juleka are. A more hopelessly unsubtle, pandering load of nonsense would be impossible to find... but it won’t stop a certain percentage of the audience from instantly shipping these two and finding this moment both ‘inspirational’ and ‘emotional’ (I can just see the hyperbolic tweets now: OMG I WEPT BUCKETS! I CAN RELATE SSSSOOOO MUCH etc)

Sorry, but I can’t get on board. I would say this was badly done whatever the sexuality of the couple, so you can kindly burn your placards screaming ‘BIGOT’ right now. The fact it’s so cynically aimed at a demographic that are often sadly overlooked in animation until recently (and naturally, afraid of some kind of Moral Panic the writers STILL can only hint at gay relationships instead of announcing them out loud) just makes the whole shameless manipulative process even worse, IMHO.

To all those who aren’t catered to by an often very heterosexual-focused cartoon industry, watch The Owl House. Give She-Ra a try. Just anything, instead of this pathetic... what was that term I heard the other day... Gaybaiting?

Yeah, that sounds about right.

(N.B If you get something positive out of this episode I am not seeking to devalue your experience or ruin your enjoyment... I am just saying, I think this is badly-done, poorly written tripe designed to earn the show brownie points when frankly it deserves none. A great example of virtue-signalling, to borrow a tired right-wing trope. You might disagree, and feel free to argue your case, but please respect my opinion by not calling me a bunch of profane names in response. Thank you.)

5. The short scene ends with Marinette letting the supposedly lovestruck Zoe down gently, with a hug and a silent promise to never speak of this again (believe me, they won’t).

 It’s a good moment for both of these favorite, endlessly-hyped characters of Thomas... Marinette gets to show her ‘human’ side and improve her already sterling reputation, whereas a lovesick Zoe takes her rejection surprisingly well.

 No tears, raised voices or even mucus bubbles... the entire emotional catharsis is over in less than 40 seconds. Guess they were too busy with more important stuff in the episode like Cheesy Chat puns, Hawkmoth’s Ham’n’Cheese and Marinette getting spotted panties from her Lucky Charm (I wish I was kidding... but I’m not. I’ve READ the leaks... *Shudder*)

.....................

So, to sum up then: another throwaway moment in an increasingly stupid show that could’ve been something special or left a lasting impact... of course, it does neither of those things. 

I mean, what were you expecting at this stage? The people who produce it are clearly not making any serious effort whatsoever, whether that be in the writing department or stopping MASSIVE spoilers from getting out and ruining the plot (although, I think they already did a pretty good job of that even before this latest round of security breaches).

So if they don’t care, why should anyone else? At least it’s fun to vent about... but time for a break now, to watch something with a bit of actual quality. Hmm... *Decides to see the Amphibia finale for like the trillionth time.*

#miraculous #miraculous ladybug #ladybug #chloe bourgeois #Marinette Dupain-Cheng #Zoe Lee #ml salt #ml spoilers #Disney #Youtube

[miraculouslbcnreactions]

Bonus review: Migration! The episode where Luka knowing the identities is finally acknowledged in the most disappointing way possible.

We start the episode with my SO being shocked that Luka knows. In his defense, Wishmaker aired over a year ago and Luka's knowledge has been ignored since then, so I can't exactly blame a casual viewer for forgetting. So it's seriously a good thing that the episode spends so much time reminding us that he knows.

SO was excited to see where this went and then very unexcited when it led to Luka being voted off the island and nothing else. But, hey, at least someone knowing the identities actually led to consequences! It won't happen again, but this was a brief moment of narrative competence where they gave real weight to the "identities have to stay secret" BS that they've been undermining since Queen Bee and straight up butchering since Gang of Secrets.

If people kept having to leave Paris like this, then the lack of a Love Square reveal would feel logical. Especially because, in theory, Marinette is right about it being risky. Doubly so since they don't know that they know each other, so they think that they'll have to make up a story about how they met and such.

SO called bullshit on Anarka letting Kitty Section sign Bob Roth's contract and, yeah, did anyone buy that she'd allow that? Come on, let there be at least one competent parent on this show! Also, Luka's a bit of a pushover, but he's not stupid. I don't buy him telling the gang to sign those papers. (Also, can minors even sign a contract like that in France? I'd assume parents would need to be involved.)

It was at this point that Bob Roth' name registered with my SO. He paused the episode to go: "Wait, isn't that the painting guy?" Which, yes, the names are super similar and hard to differentiate when you hear them. Bob Ross is who most people would think of. Not sure if that's as true in France, but we changed Noel to Chris for localization! Why not this one, too?

(I know he's named after someone on the production team, but still. I would have chosen another name.)

The real standout moment of the episode? The duck getting hit with Bob Roth's magical golden record. Not because it was a particularly funny moment, but because it meant that I got to introduce the SO to Disco Duck! Yes, this is a real, serious song. It hit the top 10 in multiple countries. The 70's were a wild time.

SO countered with this thing, which pales in comparison to the glory of disco duck, imo, but feel free to tell me if you disagree

(I'm not going to post reviews for every episode, only the ones where I have something funny to say or a criticism that I haven't seen before. Originally, I skipped Migration, but someone asked about it and I realized that I did have some funny stuff to add in retrospect. Everyone deserves to experience Disco Duck at least once)

#suffering through a rewatch of season 5 for love of my so #ml writing salt #ml writing critical #ml season 5 salt #ml migration #Youtube

[mokkamicci]

sometimes I think that the MLB community on YouTube truly does not understand Miraculous fully unlike Tumblr. especially when it comes to certain channels that like to make hollow criticisms of the show, and especially the comment section under those particular channels. there's one particular channel that likes to do this quite often. they do this with other films and tv shows too, but that ain't the focus here. it's the way their criticisms come across to me.

obviously I'm not saying they can't make any criticisms of the show, they can obviously, they don't have to like it. but the thing that bothers me is the way certain people on YouTube, most egregiously the people in comment sections voice their opinions. to me they come across incredibly condescending and even mocking, almost like if you were to say to them that you genuinely liked the show, they'd scoff at you and say "seriously? but the writing's so bad, and the characters are so cringy, and it's just a kids' show, it's not that serious...” etc etc.

I also think that a lot of criticisms they have are also unfounded and are based on their season 1 mindset, as if the show hasn't grown from the season 1 plot and structure (/sarcasm). you still see these people even nowadays make the same baseless criticisms like "marinette is a stalker", "adrien being dense and calling marinette just a friend", "the lovesquare is so cringy" etc etc. and it pisses me off. it's like they only ever watched season 1, and then dropped it thinking it was too childish for them, OR they're casual watchers who only ever watch the show from time to time, so they didn't get the whole experience of engaging with the lore on a deeper level and actually following along with the characters' journeys. they really don't understand what Miraculous has become, and that the writing has actually grown from when it first started.

You would have to watch the show in its entirety to truly understand it and engage with it to know that it's not just a cringy kids' show with superheroes, even though it kinda started off that way. but it's grown from that. and this is why I love the Tumblr community. even though we know the show has its fair share of flaws, at least our gripes with the show are well-founded, because you know, we've actually connected with the plot and narrative, the essence of each character and what makes them important to the story.

TL;DR - youtube mlb community frustrate and piss me off because their shallow and unfounded criticisms of Miraculous come across as condescending because they truly haven't connected with the show on a fundamental level, or even be bothered to make an effort to actually watch the show in its entirety. they are all stuck in their season 1 mindset, and have automatically decided that's just all the show is at this point. just like any other tv show with multiple seasons, the writing improves with each new season, but somehow these people are convinced that Miraculous is still the same as it was in Season 1.

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