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sharpth1ng · 20 days
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Saw your post replying to the ask about 'losing a Billy person' and it got me thinking about this. I guess I'm a Billy person who's (nearly) lost their Stu person (which is actually rare and quite the opposite to their dynamic) In WoM Billy decides to move and start a new life afar from Stu because all the shit that's happened and his feelings about him and stuff so he's being sort of avoidant too. They both have very poorly communication skills and they definitely don't resolve anything so I can totally picture Billy getting away from Stu when he starts doing dumb shit (and because of Billy's fear of abandonment because of his mom, he doesn't wanna get hurt, feel vulnerable... etc) and when he doesn't get in exchange the kind of feedback he wants, ( a Stu who's devoted to him and their relationship, a lifetime partner, and everything he's bowed to) How would Billy deal with a lack of commitment? An unexpected betrayal? I guess I love angsty Billy way too much, lol. I'm a big fan of Stu going thru the process of grief but if the opposite happened how would Billy cope with it? My take on this is: bad copying mechanisms, tons of unleashed anger that he's been boiling up and listening to the same 3 depressive alt rock CD'S.
Also, re-reading Debaser and Wom it's like my biggest source of comfort atm so thanks for sharing your amazing writing with us<3
I think the way I write him Billy is also terrified of the idea of a lifetime partner tbh. Does he want that internally? Desperately, but because of the situation with his mom he doesn't feel safe wanting that.
Allowing himself to fully want and have Stu means acknowledging that he would be worse off without him, that he needs him on some level. Billy's got that self-sufficiency type toxic masculinity, he thinks he needs to be perfectly ok on his own and that he shouldn't ever need to rely on anyone else (which is just not how people work).
As a result, Billy running away in WoM is very much avoidance because he got a taste of what it would be like if he lost Stu and he couldn't handle it. Literally all of this is happening because Stu is too trustworthy, too reliably supportive, and Billy essentially thinks that enjoying that makes him weak.
So if there was an actual betrayal? He's going nuclear honestly. It doesn't even have to be the biggest betrayal. Stu's basically the last person he actually trusts in the world, he definitely doesn't trust Nancy anymore. Really the only reason he hasn't totally blown up at her is that he's put her on a pedestal, he sees her as a victim in this situation. So her actions are somewhat justified to him, but at the same time any trust he had for her has completely eroded.
Now with Stu, where he actually does trust him and also is essentially afraid of what that means? If he was betrayed or that trust was broken he would take that to mean that he was right; trusting or relying on anyone else is a bad idea. I think his specific reaction depends on what happened- if its a smaller thing yeah he might just run away, self isolate, smoke too much and get really aggro in general.
If it's anything even a little bit bigger though I think he would be on an actual warpath, like its Billy Loomis vengeance time and we all know what that means. He might decide to make Stu's life a living hell in a lot of little ways or he might decide to bottle it up, act like things are normal the way he did with Sid and then completely tear Stu's life down around him.
Either way I think this results in a much more self-destructive Billy than what we saw in his revenge plan with Sid. A Billy who's lost his trust in Stu is a Billy without direction, without comfort, and I think ultimately a Billy without hope. Like worst case scenario I do think he might try to kill Stu, but either way this is a Billy defending fully into nihilism.
So yeah, if there’s a lack of commitment? Billy is gone, he’s isolating and he’s telling himself he doesn’t need anything or anyone. If it’s a betrayal? He’s on the warpath.
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class-of-86 · 2 years
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byler headcanons <3
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because i love these two omg
• when mike spends the night, he always INSISTS on sharing the bed with will because
a) the bed is more comfortable
b) no way in hell is will sleeping on the floor on mike’s watch
• will gave mike his flannel
• mike gave will his hellfire shirt
• mike is pretty touchy. he always finds an excuse for hugs, kisses, and anything small
• will is big spoon. always.
• unless he’s had a nightmare or is upset
• will loves painting & drawing mike. like even when he’s in class & doodling, he always draws mike. 90% of the time he doesn’t even mean to, it just happens.
• their first kiss was..awkward to say the least.
• mike has never kissed a guy before that and will hasn’t kissed..anyone really.
• well, will has kissed a few people but he doesn’t count them. (mainly just stuff from middle school dances)
• mike was insanely nervous and kept awkwardly laughing, his hands were really sweaty and he kept apologizing for nothing
• also his face was like..super red.
• will was nervous too, so in the middle of mike apologizing and going on a rant nobody but him could understand..will just did it.
• mike just stood there, frozen tbh
• will apologized profusely
• they laughed about it later and tried again
• they’ll lay in bed together and listen to music for hours. just holding each other
• anytime they fight, mike is always the first to cave in and apologize tbh
• will stays petty for a little bit
• until mike says something cute and will can’t help but forgive him
• will refuses to admit thats he’s wrong. like..ever.
• it drives mike crazy sometimes but he loves that about will
• will will sometimes just stare at mike thinking about how handsome he is and how much he loves him
• mike helps will with his trauma a lot
• even if he doesn’t understand, he will always be there for will. always.
• he’ll sit there and let will cry on him, hold will after a nightmare, rub his back during anxiety attacks, or if will doesn’t feel like talking mike will sit there with him.
• joyce and hopper are very supportive!!
• joyce especially, i think hopper is mad that mike keeps dating his kids.
• of course hopper gave mike the big “if you hurt him..”‘ speech.
• which of course terrified mike
• but it made will laugh so hard his side was hurting when he found out.
• joyce was irritated but couldn’t help but laugh too.
• the party doesn’t care either way
• dustin made a bet with lucas about it actually
• when mike told them, all he got for a response was dustin laughing because he was right about his bet and lucas had to give him $10
• eleven thinks they’re adorable.
• but she protects will
• she also gave mike the “if you hurt him..” speech
• nancy is so supportive, she tries to help mike with boyfriend trouble
• she also helped mike get ready when he had his first real date with will.
• to make up for the lack of letters, mike always writes will love letters and sneaks them into his sketchbook.
• and they’re all signed “love, mike”
• will keeps all of them in a box.
• mike loves will
• and will loves mike.
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shopcat · 2 years
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anyway steve spends like 2 entire seasons being unlucky in love going on one million dates COMPLAINING about the women throwing themselves at him, UNABLE to even talk to them normally in season 3 and unable to even differentiate between them in season 4... they literally have MULTIPLE little life chats about it, robin says "you don't know what you want" and they despair about it, together, because his best friend and the only one he relates to about this is... a lesbian!!! his ideal future is the most NUCLEAR rose coloured glasses family anyone has ever heard, a future which he sprung upon his ex in the middle of a life or death situation when he felt like he had to because who knows what'll happen...
how it wasn't even focused around The "Wife", it focused around having one million kids bc he grew up alone even among friends and he's terrified of being alone AGAIN and he's freaking out bc the world is fucking ending and he was trying to see what this girl who he once loved's reaction would be to HIM, to what he's saying. not a last ditch effort of trying to get her back but like if she recognised his fucking. soul. and there is SOMETHING to be said for how nancy reacted minimally... how he seemed to just talk for the sake of getting it off his chest and it was almost like how he was checking her reaction to these these because he ALSO knew their futures don't line up like this. it was a goodbye to this idea not a PROPOSAL. (beyond the metaphor for how it was, in fact, also about the younger kids).
when he is WITH a girl he does everything he thinks he's SUPPOSED to because he's the King he's the ladies man he knows all the moves because he memorised the moves and the Play and he knows the game because he invented the game. so he can't slip up. he carries the books and surprises her at the locker and takes her on cute dates and sneaks in her window he takes them all to the makeout point so they know they're supposed to make out it's a PLAY it's a THEATRE SHOW it's like he's following a formulated rulebook on how to be the perfect boyfriend and date. he imagines this cookie cutter future with a girl he's embossed and buffed and shined and lit up on his mind as the perfect girl that can never compete with other girls but also NO girl can compete with his own expectations including her.
the perfect girl for him was ROBIN who was literally just the first person to treat him equally and normally and not as a prize or A Boy who was talking to A Girl and the roles you have to play there but like just... a guy. and he got along with her so well he just immediately assumed well she doesn't make me miserable so i must like her in that way. then when she came out his first thought was to let her know it's OKAY and make her laugh the rejection didn't even occur to him cuz there was nothing to actually reject. DUSTIN had to point out the possibility to him and even then in his initial denial he started listing all these traits that he loves and admires and shares in his FRIENDS, in the people who set him OFF of the path to Suburban Ex-Jock Peaked in Highschool CEO. she's HYPER she's WEIRD she's a NERD she's. literally awesome really.
and there's something to also be said about how his interactions with women are so one sided even when they ARE responding... he didn't even give the girl he took to the basketball game a CHANCE despite being clearly like, set in on the plan to take her and even excited for it!! it's like he decided right out the gate they just couldn't mesh because he doesn't know how to mesh with women and he doesn't know WHY!!!!! but i know why... also how like, at least 20% of it is bc she thought tammy was a good singer 😭 he's such a bitch.
like he tried and tried and TRIED he literally just keeps trying with girls and tbh i don't even see it as him desperately attempting normalcy and landing a hot girl's number to prove he can but i COULD. and that's the whole point. i do just think he's a generally friendly weird guy and he "tries" more often than not because he feels like that's his role to play, and flirting is the easiest way to be charming but he is just charming notwithstanding...
how he seems to only value himself, self esteem wise, as being attractive to girls, he does things "for the ladies", he's constantly making sure he fits this perfect idea of Steve Harrington that HE concocted but got him the babes and the attention and he doesn't know how to divorce his own self image from what he COULD be, for others. i've JOKED about him being the hot girl at the car wash hired to bring in customers but honestly beyond that i do genuinely think a part of him probably only feels useful and worthy when he's playing this role and being the Ladies Man. and if he's not a ladies man if he doesn't even LIKE ladies then what is he good for. he offered to "turn on the charm" for the DEAN of the university 😭
(also, like, his scoops ahoy interactions feel so different from the family video ones to me for this reason bc i think he was honestly just having fun and maybe at some point playing into robin's little tally thing it didn't actually... mean anything. he was just doing it to do it it wasn't MALICIOUS but it was like an awkward showing of the belly of a kid just out of school who has NO idea what he's doing falling into an easy routine of trying to make a girl giggle. and by the time he's at family video he's back in the groove and doesn't understand why he doesn't FEEL back in the groove).
in season two when the moment we finally see the beginnings of the character BEYOND the jock boyfriend trope was how he was giving advice to dustin on how to... get girls. and his entire play there was to "show them you don't care". to drive them crazy... because HE doesn't actually care. and the reason that advice failed was because dustin does actually like the girl he liked, dustin DOES care, and also honestly so does steve!!! every single time he talks to a girl, if not TRIPLED for nancy (who seemed to set the niche he was slowly working into for the rest of his life completely off the rails by virtue of being a genuinely interesting, better person who inspired him to need to match up with that to the point he wore different CLOTHES) he never actually DID this. he was honestly at times DESPERATE, he cares SO much which is whyyyy him even saying this doesn't even make sense to me but speaks to some sort of internalised, subconscious mindset where he knows, deep down, he DOESN'T care. and it IS just a play. and when later dustin was genuinely upset with max and steve was like winking because he couldn't see the difference because i'm willing to bet that genuine upset is something he feels OFTEN.
bc he's gay. He's literally gay. (even if he's not strictly gay and just has the mother of all self image and What Do I Even Do With Myself issues all wrapped up in having to drop everything to save the world every 6-10 months and be reliable in that aspect so he can't AFFORD this i still think he's bisexual. and either he KNOWS or he doesn't know but either way something is holding him back and making him desperate subconsciously or no... he is the comphet study of a lifetime to me. but i think he's gay i think he's bi i think he's whatever.)
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dontcallmeeds · 1 year
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I love how canonically…Eddie makes fun of parties. He also gives Chrissy like an insane deal and then probably isn’t going to make her pay for the K. A lot of us write him like he’s doing the deals to help pay his part and like he’s some kind of Hawkins drug lord. But he’s like……not good at it lmao. It also just reminds me of the fact we’re told Steve is popular in S1 but like….where??? He only hangs out with Tommy H and Carol and I know the “party” was like obviously him trying to get with Nancy but he’s so terrified of his dad finding out about that what?? 5 person kickback I don’t think that guy ever threw a party in his life LMAO. So Steve ‘the king’ Harrington and Eddie ‘the freak’ Munson don’t really live up to their names tbh.
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strangerbitxhs · 2 years
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Call Me When Your Sober PART TWOOOOO
Parring: Steve Harrington x Fem Reader
Rating: 18 +
Warnings: pure fluff tbh, a lil sad, some johnathan and nancy slander (im sorry it went with the storyline) its alot shorter than pt one and is the final part but ill be writing ALOT more stevie stories dont worry <3333
A/N: omg yall i did not expect the luv i got on part one u guys are amazing!!! also i am offended, sad, and need therapy over season 4 vol 2
Part one can be found here
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Steve was shocked at the words that had just come out of your mouth. He never thought you would care about him, about the fact that you were hooking up regularly.
"Y/N..." Steve whispered, struggling to find the words he so desperately wanted to say to you. "It's not that I wouldn't love to be with you, ya know, like-" he trailed off.
"Then what is it Steve?" you snapped, tears freely flowing down your rosy cheeks. You were angry, not at him, but at yourself. Angry at yourself for letting yourself fall in love him, letting him have every single part of you when it was convienient for him.
Steve let out a small sigh, looking down at the bed you two sat in. A small tear rolled down his cheek. You instinctively reached your hand to his cheek, giving it a gentle wipe with your thumb.
You never thought you would see Steve cry, hell-you were unsure if he was even capable of such emotions. The sight of it ripped your heart in half.
"I'm sorry.." you trailed off, embarrassment and guilt creeping up the back of your neck. "It was stupid of me to even ask.." You tried to turn away from him, unsuccessful as his hand grabbed your wrist, firmly yet careful not to hurt you.
"I'm scared. I'm terrified okay?" His voice was just above a whisper, gaze stuck on the bed unwilling to move an inch.
"Of what?" You were genuinely curious.
"Of loosing you." As much as he tried to hold them back, the tears fell. "Of what happened with Nancy... I could handle it with her. I couldn't handle if it happened with you Y/N."
Your heart both sank and fluttered at his words. "I'm not Nancy. I wouldn't leave you for a guy who was stalking me in your backyard." You joked, earning a small smile from him along with a sniffle.
"I just feel like everyone I love, they never love me as much you know? Nancy, my parents.." He trailed off as your thumb swiped his tears away.
"Are-are you saying you love me Steve?" You were dumbfounded, wanting to pinch your arm to see if you were dreaming.
"Yeah." He sighed, finally meeting your gaze. "I've loved you for a long time Y/N."
A smile spread across your face as you crashed your lips to his, barley able to contain your joy. You wrapped your arms around Steve's neck, this kiss feeling different than any of the ones you had shared before. This one was passionate, loving, and sweet.
"I love you so much Steve. You never have to worry about losing me." You whispered as you rested your forehead against his.
"Never?" he smiled
"Never ever Stevie."
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americaswritings · 2 years
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Headcanon: Heading into battle with Steve while having a crush on him
also this scene is just *chefs kiss* Steve looked so good in vol. 2 (the whole season obviously, but that leather jacket was a game changer)!!
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You have been in love with Steve for a while now but you never admitted your feelings to him
You're too scared he won't reciprocate them and that it would make things awkward between you two 
And you share your friends so you don’t want to make it awkward for them either
Also you secretly waited for him to tell you he has a crush on you (because he has always been pretty straightforward with his feelings)
But he never did?? 
So you lost hope at this point
Surely, if he would have feelings for you he would have told you by now?
And with Jonathan moving to another state you fear that Nancy and Steve will get back together
They are both your friends so you try to be happy for them but it still hurts
A lot
Sometimes you think Robin catches onto the truth (because you can’t keep your eyes of Steve, smile at his stupid jokes, always asks if he comes too when you have plans and try to get close to him. Tbh you are pretty obvious but you can’t help it)
but you always make sure to come up with an excuse
“I just thought it would be a good idea to ask Steve, if he wants to join our movie night. You know he lacks in that department and he works at Family Video! You should know first hand he doesn’t know what the hell he is doing”
“I might have been looking at him, but have you seen his hair today? It’s like it gets more voluminous every day! How much time do you think he spend on that anyway! Must be more than any girl!”
You wish you could tell her the truth about your feelings
but you can’t
Because Robin and Steve are so close and you know the girl can't keep her mouth shut
Especially if she's nervous
You debatted on telling Nancy 
But you wouldn't want her to feel guilty, if Steve and her become a couple.
So you don't
Instead you bury your feelings and pretend they don't exist
You thought another fight against the creatures of the upside-down might distract you 
But instead you are terrified, for Max, your friends and for Steve to get hurt
He always puts himself in front of all of you and you are scared he will get hurt
You can't lose him
He makes your life so much better
Steve always brings a smile onto your face
And you feel so comfortable around him
You know you can tell him everything (except that one truth) and he won't judge you
Although he is a goofball he can be very serious
And you know he feels comfortable around you too (he even confided in you about his strained relationship with his parents and his uncertain future bc of his grades and college)
You always try to make sure that he believes in himself (after graduating high school and losing his title and status as king Steve he has become a little insecure and it’s obvious he doesn’t think he is smart enough)
Also Steve remembers the little things (like your ice-cream order, the film you get when you had a bad day or your favorite song)
Besides, Steve makes you feel safe. Even though you know he can't protect you from Vecna you feel less scared and hopeless when is with you
And you know he will do anything to protect the kids, his friends, you
But your heart is still pounding like crazy as you're suiting up and preparing to head into the upside-down
Into battle
At first Steve refused to have you on “his team”
He wanted you to stay with Max claiming they would need someone to look after them
But there is no way you're letting him go down there without you
Especially after he nearly got killed by Demobats the last time
The images still sent shivers down your spine although you have to admit seeing Steve without a shirt was definitely a look
Nancy and Robin are the ones that convince him that you are capable of taking care of yourself
but it still makes you feel hurt and a little humiliated
Apparently he doesn't believe you're good enough of a fighter
You're trying to hide it but of course he notices that you're a little off
“You have been acting weird. Everything okay?”
“Is that a serious question? We just walked through a portal into another dimension filled with monsters. Aren’t we all acting- weird?”
You brush it off at first but Steve knows you and that something is wrong
He keeps sneaking glances at you that you pretend not to notice
Nancy and Robin walk behind you, giving the two of you two a little space as you walk through the dark forest 
You're starting to think they are doing it on purpose
Eventually you tell him what bothers you and he is so surprised and immediately reassures you that it's not what he thinks
"But why did you want to leave me behind then? You know it sucks to be the babysitter!"
He looks a little sheepish when he admits that he doesn't want you getting hurt
"But you're going too! And so are Nancy and Robin. We can use all the help we get!"
"But I can't protect you here!"
You notice there is something very serious in this tone and find his eyes flicker to your lips for a second
"I can protect myself, Steve!" He lets out a sigh. "I know you do. But the thought of you getting hurt- it just-"
Your heart is beating like crazy when you wait for him to finish that sentence.
"I couldn't forgive myself if something happened to you. I can't lose you, okay?"
You feel like your whole body is melting under his intense stare and the emotion in his eyes. And his vulnerability gives you courage
"I feel the same way!"
Boy is actually shocked. You nearly laugh out loud. "You mean like-?"
"I like you, Steve Harrington. I have for a while now."
He is so surprised. "Why didn't you say anything?" 
You bite your lip, feeling insecure again. But hell if you're going to die you want him to know the truth.
"Because of this-", you gesture around, "and you never said anything so I figured you didn't feel the same way and I didn't want to make it awkward."
Steve frowns but there is relief and the hint of a smile on his face
"I never said anything, because I didn't think I would ever have a chance with you. But I gave you hints all the time!"
"Hints?"
"Yeah, like when I asked you to watch that movie with me- back to the future? And you turned it into a group thing. Or when I hinted that my parents aren’t home or a while so we would have the pool for ourselves but you full on rambled how upset you are at my parents for leaving again”
Now it's your turn to be surprised. But all that matters is that Steve feels the same way. Even in this cold and dark forest your heart swells with warmth
"Also Dustin has like the biggest crush on you. But he would kill me if he knew I told you."
You laugh out loud at that, so relieved, touched and hopeful even though you are about to fight Vecna
"Is this the part where you kiss me?"
He smiles and leans in and you don't care that Nancy and Robin are right behind you, you kiss him back like your life depends on it
Suddenly the battle seems much less scary
Because Steve likes you too
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ima-ghost-art · 2 years
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I'm in the middle of writing a stranger things fic wip with robin getting vecnad and honestly? I forgot how fun it is to write angst lol
Robin faces being disowned by most of her homophobic family, vecna using her dad (the only one who stuck by her and still love her) to cause more harm
Steve having his "I CANT FUCKING LOSE HER" moment (frantically searching for her favourite song only to realise their mixtape is at her house)
Her favourite song is "I'm still standing" by elton John btw
Nancy yelling at him saying "we get it your girlfriend might die but your not the only one who cares about her!?" To which steve loses HIS SHIT bc nancy stop being bullshit that's his platonic soulmate and he loves her more than any romantic fling he could have had in the past bc robin was the first person to except him and ask if he was okay!!!!
Robin then having to face the Russians again, only this time forced to watch steve getting tortured (finally understanding why he wouldnt fully tell her what happened) plus watching/ seeing dustin and erica hurt and blaming her for what happened at starcourt!
She (like steve) blames herself for letting them get involved, she hates that her decoding a secret message for fun led to someone she now loves getting hurt
Everyone is not sure if they are more scared of robin dying in this moment, or steve, who the party is pretty sure has finally cracked when in his last attempt to find a song that means something to robin
Starts singing total eclipse of the heart like a muppet
Oh btw all 4 chapters (maybe more I'm still planning lol) are named after different lyrics from the song
Robin saves herself time by hiding in the memory of her and steve making thier mixtape (Steve's coming out moment/ Robin's dad being AMAZING)
I love Robin's dad in this hes a pretty cool bi king who just loves his two gay children (steve is his son, steve had no choice in the suprise adoption bit prefers him much more over his real dad)
VECNA (the bitch) tells robin as shes escaping that if she doesnt join him, she knows who will be next (yep you stevie boy ;))
Of course robin still escapes, but not without being utterly terrified for her bestfriend, not even sure how to tell him (or the others tbh) that vecna probably wont be targeting max this time, instead choosing to take out their hardest hitter
Que steve and robin having a VERY emotional hug (if they weren't co dependent before, they definitely are now)
Everyone else is just there in stunned silence bc gods damn it that was the most stressful 15 minutes of their lives and it got resolved BY STEVE SINGING BONNIE TYLERS "total eclipse of the heart" LIKE FRICKIN MISS PIGGY
Possibly gunna write a sequel involving steve and him getting vecna'd, (I have so many angsty ideas for this too (plus a bit of steddie)
and a prequel about the whole "mixtape" scene and stuff involving robin and steve being beautiful codependent queens being gay with a king that is Robin's dad helping them learn what love means where I project my 80s music taste onto my favourite characters (obviously that would include other characters but this is all based on platonic stobin so they're only guests lol)
Anywayyyyy this was longer than planned but maybe if other people like this idea it will actually get me to finish it (tho I still dont know how long that would be since I just started my new college course)
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bylerisc4non · 1 year
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i'm the worst at thinking of things to send asks about, so what is your most favorite topic to ramble about? feel free to get into ramble territory rn i am here to listen >:)
Okay, allow me to take the mic real quick--
So. Mike Wheeler. That's what I want to ramble about right now. This boy is on my mind constantly and I'm genuinely terrified for him. But also there's a very real reason I kin him and I'm always being reminded of it because this boy is damaged. So is Will, which is why I kin them both. Anyway- Michael is so damaged for real. Emotionally and mentally damaged. I'm talking this boy has so much trauma and has me crying over him 24/7. The self sabotage? The internalized homophobia? The loyal/protective friend behavior? The little regard for himself? His eating disorder? His s*icidal tendencies all because he cares more about others' safety than his own? Guys. Come on. This boy is so selfless. He does not deserve all the hate he's gotten and I'm sticking to that. So what if he's flawed? It only makes him a more relatable, human, and realistic character. Obviously he cares about (*cough cough* is in love with) Will and would do absolutely anything for him. He came to Lenora trying to be normal and cool, but he dropped the act real quick because he just wanted his friend back tbh.
Will is his best, best friend (and the love of his life) and he cares for him deeply. He never wanted to hurt Will, it just happened because of the fact that he has a problem with accepting himself and self sabotage. He's a struggling 14 year old. What 14 year old do you know that hasn't gone through that? He's angsty and moody and i just want to love on him because he's got middle child syndrome and he's been a bit neglected. Not saying his parents are bad, obviously, just saying that Nancy and Holly were a lot more loved on because they were probably more open to their parents, unlike Mike who was more open to his friends and found himself identifying more with the party. Also, this boy has so much bottled up and I just need it to come out and be addressed in st5 or I will explode. #mike wheeler needs a hug.
Whenever people say Mike's been a jerk/asshole for the past two seasons, well, I can't exactly argue with that, because it's true. But you have to try and wedge your way into Mike's brain past his immediate appearance. He's really just misunderstood. He's dealing with a lot, like any kid his age. He's struggling with finding and accepting himself. He's losing himself in El because it's easy to do. He's trying to identify himself in her and be what he thinks he should be instead of what he actually his. So, in the end, I hope he leaves El and learns to accept and love himself.
Ugh. I'm sorry. I'm unwell. I'm just a broken record at this point but I love Mike Wheeler, he's misunderstood, he needs love. Thank you for your time.
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i don’t really post about hsmtmts anymore but tbh it’s really weird to me how people say ricky’s feelings for gina just suddenly appeared, or that he’s somehow regressing, or that he’s a homewrecker, because that’s precisely what ricky’s trying to avoid doing ??? like he’s actively trying to suppress how he feels so that he’s NOT impeding on gina’s relationship with ej. he told carlos and asked him not to tell anyone, it’s not his fault the camera guy got it on video.
ricky’s relationship with nini wasn’t so much about love, but rather security. there may have been a time where they really did love each other romantically, but he fell back into his rhythm with nini because it was at a time where everything in his life was drastically changing, and he was so afraid of it. he didn’t want things to change, and so he latched onto something, or in this case, someone, who was familiar to him, where he could pretend that nothing was happening. it was like a form of escapism for him. and we see the repercussions of this in s2, when their relationship becomes unhealthy because he’s trying to avoid the inevitable change and growth/regression (growth as in character growth moreso on nini’s end, and regression on his end) that is occurring, and the lack of communication between the two of them, which would eventually lead to their breakup. they may always care for each other, but kind of like steve and nancy from stranger things, they’re growing apart romantically. and that happens. it’s normal, and that’s okay.
i think his feelings for gina have always been there. it’s clear he and gina clicked right away, and that they always had chemistry straight from the get go. but again, gina came into his life at a time where he was terrified of things in his life changing. and because acting on any romantic feelings he had for gina meant going out of his comfort zone, it meant change, he avoided it instead. he pretended, or maybe didn’t even know, they were there. but in s3 we see that ricky is beginning to accept that things will change as time goes on, and that change isn’t always bad, and can even be freeing. so, instead of pretending it’s not happening, he’s finally beginning to realize and accept certain things about himself (i.e. feelings for gina).
ricky is not regressing. there is a clear distinction between his unresolved feelings for gina coming back to the surface, and his desire for security and consistency with nini. in fact, if anything, ricky deliberately trying not to sabotage and staying out of ej and gina’s relationship, as opposed to what he did in s1 with ej and nini’s relationship, only shows how much he’s grown since s1. that, along with how in s1 he backed out of the musical for nini because he thought it was what was best, and then in s3 he’s actively making an effort to make sure he and everyone else are stepping up for gina, show how much he’s matured. having feelings for someone in a relationship doesn’t mean you’re a homewrecker, or that you’re a bad person. it happens all the time, and is fairly common. it’s not a crime. it only become a problem when you know that person already has a significant other, and you still continue to pursue those feelings anyway. which ricky isn’t doing.
ricky and gina are playing love interests in the musical, something neither of them had a say in. they were performing a musical number, they were’t making out in secret in the woods like y’all are acting like they were doing. are we watching the same show ???
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blankbedroom · 2 years
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The Wheeler Family
When ppl write Mike in their fics I feel like they go a little overboard when it comes to the family dynamic so here are my ideas (plus some miscellaneous hcs)
Ted:
Conservative
Spends all day at work and all evening on the couch, he thinks he deserves it since he’s the breadwinner of the family
He’s very much not aware of his family, he barely pays attention to the kids on a good day. He’s pretty neglectful on that part.
He believes it’s Karen’s job to look after them, to give them advice and console them etc, hence why he doesn’t get involved.
Doesn’t hate his family by any means. He has an idea on how they should appear to other people and how they should function.
Very traditional values basically.
He almost never raises his voice, ‘fights’ are just Karen getting increasingly annoyed, her voice getting louder and louder because Ted just sits there and takes it. Karen will storm off and he’ll turn back to the T.V to let her ‘cool off’
The only time his voice is slightly raised is to reprimand his kids - usually Mike because father son things idk, you get it.
Karen:
She’s a lesbian u can tear that from my cold dead hands.
She knew this even back in high school, and she also knew she would never be able to marry for love so why not marry for convenance - Ted.
She does everything she’s supposed to and that’s still true today.
Is she a conservative? no. She’ll argue with Ted about things they disagree on but it’s difficult for her to really stand up to him, because it feel’s like she’s exposing too much of herself in the process.
Anyway, she’s the housewife she’s supposed to be but she cares for her kids, like so much.
There’s a reason Mike goes to her for support, she’s done nothing but her absolute best raising him, Nancy and Holly.
(She would take their side’s over Ted’s in a heartbeat)
Unhappily married but dealing w it like the queen she is.
She gets the idea Mike’s friends’ home lives might not be the best, it’s the biggest reason she likes hosting them. She’d absolutely bring down little trays of snack foods and constantly offer to make lunch and/or dinner for everyone.
Also, she’s heard about the Mayfields okay? She lets Max stay over constantly, practically shoves old clothes into her arms and sets a place for her at the dinner table every night. Max is an honorary Wheeler at this point.
Nancy:
The older sister - what else is there to say?
Because of the emotional distance in the family neither Nancy nor Mike really understand how to show love and affection to other people.
Nancy adores Mike, of course she does, he’s her brother. She has the overwhelming urge to protect him in the ways she knows how to.
During/after Upside Down era is where this really shines I’d think. She was faced with the very real possibility of her brother dying, and that was terrifying. She’d jump headfirst into danger before he had to any day.
She’s kind but firm I guess. She knows what it’s like to be in high school, she’s just barely graduated herself, so she wants to let Mike be a dumb kid despite everything. She badgers him to let her know when he’s home, where he’s going etc. “I don’t care you’re drinking Michael I care that you’re safe about it.”
She always asks if he’s 100% sure he’s locked his doors and windows before bed.
She likes helping Karen whenever she can.
Her and Mike never talk about their problems to each other but sometimes they’ll go into the other’s room and just hug. Sometimes they’ll have to share a bed just to be sure the other’s alive, or to help with nightmares. They both sleep with a lamp on now, and Mike’s walkie-talkie in range.
HAS ADHD
Mike:
Mike is a middle child…
His role in the family is much more passive tbh
He tries to avoid everyone when necessary, he hates family meal times because they just feel so plastic and fake to him
He spends most of his time in the basement, preferably with other people as distraction. Plus he gets to see a bit more of his mom when there’s friends around, she’s always worried about being a good host.
He’s absolutely dreadful with emotions - his role model has been Ted so we can see how well that’ll go.
‘Friends Don’t Lie’ policy matters because his whole family life is a lie.
ADHD GIFTED KID BURNOUT! After s1 his grades start slipping, the only class he still excels in is english for everything else he asks for homework answers.
A writer yet terrible with words
Also him and Will co parent clothes with how often they’ll switch the same jumpers/shirts
that’s all i got 🙄
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feel like there's a tendency in this fandom to want faves to be perfect marty stus/mary sues who can do no wrong. there are steve fans who simultaneously believe that steve had the best character development in the series without doing anything wrong. and i've seen some robin fans who hated her characterization in the novel bc she was somewhat judgy (realistic for a teenager) and get mad about mild criticism of her in s4 (digging through people's stuff after you're asked not to isn't the best idea). meanwhile, people think if you like nancy or jonathan and think some of the criticism towards them is unwarranted, you MUST approve of everything they've done.
Totally agreed and it’s a ridiculous and boring way for characters to be written and/or perceived. Characters should have layers, flaws, and be complex.
To use Jonathan as an example, he made a huge mistake with the pictures, he can be quick to judge people and get annoyed with them (altho earned a lot tbh), he has massive trust issues and currently is holding back some things, is going through a lot and was self-medicating through some of it instead of talking to anyone. He’s is also a character who was physically and emotionally abused by his father, still learned to cultivate his own dreams and imagination (with photography), has a wonderful loving Mom who also had a lot going on, became a co-parent to Will from the age of 12 or earlier, had to handle his mom’s anxiety as well, is incredibly protective, loyal, loving, is a great observer/sensitive. He’s been through a lot of trauma and understands it and tries to listen and be there for people. He can also get angry, be stressed, have bad self esteem, be independent but to the point of pushing others away, and is now not being honest about something he should be bc he’s terrified of being anything like his father or letting people down or affecting their dreams. He’s still learning how to have friends and when to let people in, the trust issues are still there. I could go on, but that’s an example of having flaws and layers and being a complex character! It’s way more interesting then being one dimensionally perfect.
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This is sort of live commentary bc I have sooo much to say and I don't want to forget any of it.
I am gen soooo in love with your CFDAU!!!! The lake parallels the Stobin the fact that it's not just Ronance it's Robin!!!
Yours is the only fic I've felt compelled to stop and clean myself up and create a whole playlist and just consume the fic with the best possible surroundings like it's a movie <333
AND THE WAY YOU CAPTURE ROBIN'S GUILT!!! As a queer person in a country the equivalent of 80s America I felt that too much. AND OMFG ALL THE BALCONY SCENES!!! AND STEVE OMFG I FELL IN LOVE WITH STEVE EVERY DAY ALL OVER AGAIN I STG I DO!!!
This is a little controversial but it feels like what The 7 Husbands wanted to be, or like a better version.
OMFG RONANCE KISS PLS I'M GOING TO KMS I'M BREATHLESS RN
And the way they learn they're allowed to want or feel through each other omfgggggg!!!
"But she has spent fifteen years—over half of her life—loving Nancy. And it’s always been terrifying, but that’s never been able to change how she feels.
So she gives in. She lets go of the idea of sleep and shifts—slowly, quietly—to face Nancy again. The blinds are shut, but a glow from the city lights still permeates the room, illuminating her softly. Robin’s eyes trace her body, from the mess of her hair, nearly black in the dark room, down the line of her back, to the dip of her hips, over her legs as they disappear beneath the bedsheets." Okay and do you know that I am in love with every word you write 🤨???
Uhm so I just finished the fanfic and why??? It's too good??? Nothing else to say really I just really love Robin and I'm crying rn like a little bitch bc they broke the balcony rule and they kissed and <333
asddsaklfj this is so amazing <3
thank youu! this fic really did start out as a love letter to robin. like, at its core, that's what the original outline was all about. also i love love love hearing people talk about making playlists for this fic bc music was such a huge part of the writing process for this (i mean, music is a huge part of literally everything i do but ESPECIALLY this)
i also love the 7 husbands reference, because i've never read it but i've had a not insignificant number of people now point out the similarities and tbh i'll take that as a pretty high compliment!
thank you thank you <3 may ronance be soft and in love and kissing on balconies forever <3
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poeticandors · 2 years
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Hi it's not a request but just checking in on ya. Are you ok? Like seriously ,Eddie's dies , max can't see now and byler, gOd byler. It's not canon . I feel likethey duild mike and wills chemistry just to add a bunch of chemistry and *POOF* you thought bitch. I am sad and i know many more are so justkeeping check and would love to know your opinions.
I am actually not ok lolol
🚨SPOILERS BELOW 🚨
Like when I tell you that I have never been so emotionally and mentally drained from a show. For those 4 hours (I rounded idc) I sat there shaking and sobbing and just filled with dread bc it hit me that hard.
Eddie’s death was so tragic. I knew it was going to happen but was in denial before volume 2 came out. But that one scene where he was play fighting with Dustin was reminiscent of boromir and the hobbits and I just KNEW it was set in stone. He was such a hero and honestly it made me so sad to watch him suffer like that. His death wasn’t quick. I really don’t think he should’ve died because his character brought so much to this group. My poor boy deserved to stay alive and graduate.
Max’s entire demise hit me the hardest. My poor bby suffered as well and I just stood there in shock. The first moment her bones snapped I was devastated. And her being absolutely terrified at dying- I can’t: Like I knew she was at risk but I was also in denial. Not only that, but Lucas-
I can’t even begin to talk about Caleb’s performance. It was PHENOMENAL. Gut wrenching. I think he did so well this entire series. The scream he let out chilled me to my core. When he was begging Erica to help it made me sob even more. Caleb deserves so much praise for his acting this season.
Will deserved so much better. I hate that they used his character to bring up el and mike’s relationship. I do agree that they built up Will and mike’s chemistry to, for some fucking reason, just to throw it in everyone’s faces.
The entire car scene with Will and Mike I can’t. Noah’s acting was amazing and tbh this was where I first started crying I think. It made me sad that he went on that whole thing saying how Mike was the heart when in reality it is Will who is the heart of their group.
One other thing I am upset that they didn’t show was the Hawkins group mourning eddie. You’re telling me they didn’t film a scene showing the group going back and being shook at seeing Dustin crying over Eddie’s lifeless body? You’re telling me that Steve didn’t go straight to Dustin and comfort him like the good dad he is and try to pry him away as he is trying to hold back his own tears at the fact he lost a friend AND that his kid is so distraught and traumatized over this? Or Robin crying while nancy comforts her? Why didn’t they try taking his body back? I hate it.
Anyways yeah that’s my thoughts lol. I am so glad Steve made it through. And that Joyce and hopper are finally together and that hopper reunited with El. Very interested in seeing what s5 brings.
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astrologiaaa · 2 years
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hi I am once again hyperfixating so have some steve harrington and jonathan byers hcs
steve:
he is terrified of guns and gunshots
he is bisexual and a trans guy cuz I'm bisexual and a trans guy !!!
he was very confused about why he feels the same way around jonathan as when he's around nancy until robin comes out to him and he realizes he might like guys
his favourite outfit is the scoops ahoy outfit /hj
he has a big fat crush on both jonathan and nancy
jonathan:
he's bi with a preference for men !!
he's autistic. why do I say that? I'm autistic. so is steve btw
he's the favourite sibling of any of the party's families, all four of them love him (I mena who doesn't tbh)
he had a crush on nancy for a long time and will knew and always teased him about being the heterosexual versions of him and mike /j /j /j
jonathan loves playing with his partners hair, it's one of his favourite things to do
the first time he stopped masking in front of anyone other than his family was with nancy (not that he's good at masking in the first place /lhj)
he likes sharing his favourite music with people he loves, it's his way of saying I love you
he will shit talk his dad to his friends any chance he gets . (fuck lonnie btw)
anywyayays it's my birthday today and I'm FINALLY watching st4 so if these r wrong it's cuz I haven't watched st4 !! lol bye
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thegoldenshi-shi · 1 year
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OH NO! I WAS TOO DISTRACTED SQUEALING TO EVERYONE TO ACTUALLY THANK YOU FOR THE MECHS IN DRESS CLOTHES. I AM SO SORRY
They are bootiful, and I wuv dem, and gods damnit I need to clear off enough space on my desk so I can doodle them too. Also, I am happy to see steadily more and more people popping up to compliment Sides, he deserves to be in the spotlight. Sunny may have traditional beauty down, but Sides is that handsome boy next door whom spends their entire youth as an outdoor-playing sort of "dirty", and then cleans up and all of a sudden every girl within a five mile radius suddenly does that one spongebob meme of "Oh no, he's hawt!". And he deserves to be recognized for it, hehe. Even if both mechs are far too confident to get blushy from compliments, which is a true crime, tbh, cause both need to be seen hella positively flustered.
Also! I took Friday off of work because the jerkweed at my job was insistent on buying us lunch as a bribe, and I have too many complex feelings about people giving me things to let myself feel like I owe him. So I got to hang out with my dad, and we're gonna be sealing up my ladybug leaking window today after work. In other news /dun dun/ I was goofing around playing modded Ark: Survival Evolved (specified, cause I talk to a lot of people who don't know what that is, its about dinosaurs) and said mod was hybridization. So I made a manta omanite abomination monster. Twas chthulu, but as a bird. And I love him. I am naming him Flappy when I get home.
On an even different note, cause I've been doing my coloring books again recently, I've been debating on posting the progress of my books onto tumblr, cause I bought a one-sided-page book simply for the express purpose of being able to take the pages out and gift them to friends, so I thought it would be cool to have a visual timeline of what I have done, and how far along I got with different pieces. It would also mean I can take my watercolor pencils to the page the way I wanted to, without worrying about ruining the next page. Downside, I am terrified of posting stuff online, because I internalize everything negative people say about me, whilst simultaneously disregarding all the nice things people say. I am working on unlearning that, which being slightly more active in the interwebs would help with (exposure therapy, whooooo....)
Did/do you celebrate easter?
~Smooch 💜
Hehe, you are very welcome Smooch.
I'm glad you liked them. Sideswipe is a growing favorite I've noticed, and it really is a lot of fun to watch happen. Sunny is still probably the most popular of my designs, but his brother is coming on fast hehe. I REALLY want to draw some more robots soon, despite my other projects. I'm the mood for Mirage and Tracks atm, so we'll see what happens hehe
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While the circumstances were not ideal, it is good that you got to spend time with your dad. And I guess congratulations are in order for your avian Cthulu lol Also congratulations for finding time to do your coloring books again. Coloring books are supposed to be really therapeutic(so I hear).
On your possible tumblr posting: I too like to have a timeline on some of my projects just as a record/checkpoint. Tumblr blogs are really good for that I have to admit. Your downside is my downside as well. It's hard to accept compliments and even harder to deal with negative nancy barking up your notifications. I still get nervous over pieces I post, particularly my original works, so don't feel bad. I admit that exposure therapy HAS helped me, but if you feel like it won't help you, then don't do it. But unfortunately, you won't know until you try.
And yes, I do celebrate Easter hehe. I play piano for my church so that's one of my busier times of year outside of Christmas (dear Lord at the Christmas carols…). I even dyed Easter eggs to give out to the kids at church this year, so I really got into it this time. It's also the time of year I get together with some of my extended family, so it's fun (and kinda tiring hehe)
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kadythethief · 1 year
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new mc just dropped. in my head. future avatar of kneecaps. she/her, maybe they/them too, idk???, yandere, she never really came back right after ch 18 😔
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i think im gonna name them nancy. also their formal demon attire.
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i'd like to draw their demon form, tail and everything some time, but tbh idk when that'll be.
they rly be stuck in my head so i'll be listing some notes! if more come, i'll probably go edit this post later
very positive, happy-go-lucky like how mammon said in the earlier seasons??? mammon was probably her fav, but all that changed when the belphie attacked and ended her
she got better tho and the brothers moved on so she had to as well. only satan rly understood how she really felt but when he asked her about it, she said she was fine! satan would come to regret it later for leaving it at that.
belphie had changed his mind about nancy and loves her now! nancy returned those feelings strongly, to the point of basically discarding poor mammon which belphie was very smug about, very bratty, you know how it goes. regrets it later when it turns out, the relationship comes with a routine timeout from his kneecaps.
eventually they die, basically bc something happened and belphie looked to nancy like he was gonna die or at least get seriously injured so she threw herself in front of the threat and- ded!
belphie was extremely shocked and surprised and felt somewhat bad that he also felt relief.
when they came back, as an avatar, it was to some dread of the brothers, considering she spent most of her last months torturing belphie, removing his kneecaps on a routine basis, and using the pacts to order the brothers not to tell anyone.
diavolo announced their new status of avatar of despair, unfortunately it didn't register to nancy. dying the first time was bad enough, the second time didn't feel any better. so they convinced themselves of being the avatar of kneecaps now, their favorite hobby in life, and now after-death!
and oops! it turns out, the pacts do remain even if you die and get re-born as a demon!
makes belphie call her master in their sessions
relationship:
they are best friends with solomon btw, but her hobby is a secret. no one outside of the hol knows about it. she'd be terrified if solomon found out because she thinks he'd be mad at her and dislike her and she doesn't want him mad at her.
except thirteen probably knows. or at least suspects something is up. at the least she knows something is wrong with the human, but she doesn't understand what. so it can't be important. it's not like she would mind. she likes nancy for being a lil crazy.
petit body type, probably from iceland,
asmo was scared at first, but he doesn't care later. it's not his kneecaps that are vanished routinely. doesn't like to see and avoids his brother when he is in timeout, cause it's ick.
levi is scared
fav color: yellow
fav music: SIX
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