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wiidoodles · 7 months
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he's so scrunkly
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gothampunks · 6 months
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my misunderstood baby :(
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hoonphobe · 2 years
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mike’s character is one of the most interesting to me because does anyone really know how mike feels? and i don’t mean like his obvious feelings like when he’s annoyed or sad etc. but does anyone SEE him. id say the closest person to see him for who he really is is will, but even then there are parts he hides from will that only us as an audience can infer.
i feel like this is one of the reasons mike getting vecna’d instead of will would make a lot of sense. we have a decent idea on what goes on in will’s head and how his mind works. but mike? he’s been hiding who he really is for so long that he’s even fooled the general audience into thinking he’s someone he’s not. mike’s character is so fascinating because we rarely get to understand why he does what he does, who he is to himself. all we see is who he is to other characters and how those people shape him.
if mike gets vecna’d, it would show the audience a direct pov of the mike we never get to see. the raw mike that hides away from not only viewers but his own family and friends. it would be the perfect gateway to seeing how complicated mike really is.
i would like to think one of mike’s biggest inner conflicts is whether he’s a good person to the people he loves. ofc he cares deeply about his friends and family, but he’s made so many mistakes with them that i wonder if he contemplates if he deserves them.
here’s how i envision mike getting vecna’d going:
the scenes like the snowball and the roller rink seem like places where we’d see will being jealous of mike, but what if instead they were spots where mike felt a strain in his relationships with will and el.
at the snowball, mike encourages will to dance with a girl and after he waits in a slump for el or possibly for will to be done dancing with the girl. here maybe vecna mentions how he should feel guilty that he’s jealous of will even though he’s dating el. maybe he’s told that he can’t be a good boyfriend for her let alone a friend, that will is clearly happy with that girl and that he’s better off without mike.
then we go to the roller rink. we see el getting bullied then mike and will’s fight. vecna tells mike that he’s selfish and inconsiderate to both el and will. that he didn’t even make an effort to say happy birthday to will. maybe mike sees el and will skating together and says he’ll never be good enough for either of them, that he better off leaving them be because they’re clearly happier without him. that he’s treated both of them undeservingly and they deserve better.
we see the scene where mike cant tell el he loves her, we see the famous s3 byler fight in the rain, we see all the times mike has hurt the two people he cares about the most and he starts questioning…maybe he doesn’t deserve them…maybe vecna’s right that they’d be better off without him.
they try to use his favorite song to save him, which only will knows because everyone else hasn’t been aware, but mike’s too far gone. he’s already convinced himself that vecna’s right.
this is when the party splits up in the upside down and go through what mike’s been seeing from vecna. they finally get to see a part of mike they never do. will and el are the ones to find mike being tormented by vecna. they’re the ones that pull mike out of his trance by dragging him through the portal created by his favorite song.
they all come back and mike’s alive. they all start crying after seeing how hard it’s been for mike, this guy that boasts confidence. they hurt knowing mike was willing to give his life up so that his friends would be supposedly be happy. then there’s mike who’s yelling saying they should’ve let him go, that all he’s been is a negative presence in their lives. here starts mike’s monologue. he talks about how he can’t love el the way she wants him to but he still cares about her deeply, that he’s sorry for being such a horrible boyfriend and that she deserves someone better than him. he tells will how he’s hurt him so many times he doesn’t understand why he keeps coming back. that he loves will but he can’t always prove it in a way will deserves even if he wants to.
el reassures mike explaining that she understands. that mike doesn’t need to worry about her and that she knows how much he cares. she gets that people make mistakes and that she would never want to lose mike despite what they are to each other. she gives mike a loving hug, one to symbolize the end of their relationship but not the end of their friendship.
will is the one most emotional. he finally understands what mike has had to go through so many times, his best friend on the verge of death. jonathan suggests everyone gives them space and the two are left alone.
will hugs mike while saying all kinds of things “ur so stupid” “why would you give up ur life” “never do that again”. and mike is just there hugging back apologizing like hell because he still doesn’t feel worth will’s attention. will shuts him up and pulls out the drawing. it’s of the swingset from when they first met. will explains how he does remember this day, and that ever since that day he hasn’t regretted a single day in his life because mike was always there, that being with mike are the happiest moments of his life, that he knows that mike isn’t perfect and he understands he’s figuring himself out, that he knows he cares because each apology mike gives is engraved into his brain. will confesses what he’s been meaning to confess since that day in california.
mike still in disbelief argues saying there’s no possible way will could accept all the mistakes he’s made, and will fed up with mike’s stubbornness takes the chance and kisses him. they break away and will explains how mike is the only one he’s ever wanted to be with. and mike, hesitant at first, goes for another kiss. he tells will that he’s sorry he couldn’t realize it sooner but he’s always been the most important person in his life and he couldn’t ask for anyone else either.
mike pulls out the “for will” mixtape, and he explains he made it for his birthday, but he was too cowardly to give it to him. will grabs the mixtape and on the back is written “love, mike” and scene ends.
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bylerisc4non · 1 year
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i'm the worst at thinking of things to send asks about, so what is your most favorite topic to ramble about? feel free to get into ramble territory rn i am here to listen >:)
Okay, allow me to take the mic real quick--
So. Mike Wheeler. That's what I want to ramble about right now. This boy is on my mind constantly and I'm genuinely terrified for him. But also there's a very real reason I kin him and I'm always being reminded of it because this boy is damaged. So is Will, which is why I kin them both. Anyway- Michael is so damaged for real. Emotionally and mentally damaged. I'm talking this boy has so much trauma and has me crying over him 24/7. The self sabotage? The internalized homophobia? The loyal/protective friend behavior? The little regard for himself? His eating disorder? His s*icidal tendencies all because he cares more about others' safety than his own? Guys. Come on. This boy is so selfless. He does not deserve all the hate he's gotten and I'm sticking to that. So what if he's flawed? It only makes him a more relatable, human, and realistic character. Obviously he cares about (*cough cough* is in love with) Will and would do absolutely anything for him. He came to Lenora trying to be normal and cool, but he dropped the act real quick because he just wanted his friend back tbh.
Will is his best, best friend (and the love of his life) and he cares for him deeply. He never wanted to hurt Will, it just happened because of the fact that he has a problem with accepting himself and self sabotage. He's a struggling 14 year old. What 14 year old do you know that hasn't gone through that? He's angsty and moody and i just want to love on him because he's got middle child syndrome and he's been a bit neglected. Not saying his parents are bad, obviously, just saying that Nancy and Holly were a lot more loved on because they were probably more open to their parents, unlike Mike who was more open to his friends and found himself identifying more with the party. Also, this boy has so much bottled up and I just need it to come out and be addressed in st5 or I will explode. #mike wheeler needs a hug.
Whenever people say Mike's been a jerk/asshole for the past two seasons, well, I can't exactly argue with that, because it's true. But you have to try and wedge your way into Mike's brain past his immediate appearance. He's really just misunderstood. He's dealing with a lot, like any kid his age. He's struggling with finding and accepting himself. He's losing himself in El because it's easy to do. He's trying to identify himself in her and be what he thinks he should be instead of what he actually his. So, in the end, I hope he leaves El and learns to accept and love himself.
Ugh. I'm sorry. I'm unwell. I'm just a broken record at this point but I love Mike Wheeler, he's misunderstood, he needs love. Thank you for your time.
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hangmanapologist · 9 months
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Rhett Abbott I want to fuck you stupid but I also want to hold you and kiss your forehead and take care of you
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shrinking-violetta · 1 year
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ice pick joe my beloved
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bastardlybonkers · 5 days
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i feel like not enough ppl are factoring in the cultural clash between laios and shuro and the many micro agressions shuro faced while being in their group. literally the name 'shuro' in itself is one
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his name is toshiro 😭 lets also not forget that he has his own communication issues, in the opposite way that laios does- thats literally a factor in their argument, that his envy for laios's ability to express himself sincerely manifested as part of his distaste for him.
ig all this to say like, was their fight heart wrenching, especially when reading laios as autistic? absolutely. anybody whos ever been in laios's position knows how much it hurts to realize someone you thought was your friend doesnt actually like having you around, especially when they didnt tell you and you had no way of knowing due to not understanding their cues. but im begging yall to step back and see the nuance of this situation cause im gonna be real a lot of you are kinda just brushing over it acting like everything is toshiros fault and that hes a terrible person when in reality hes an average guy who really, really clashed with laios and it led to a very long misunderstanding due to their supremely opposite methods of communication. even laios and toshiro, after letting everything out in their fight, were able to come to an understanding and start a foundation for an actual friendship built on better communication
ok yknow what Edit: i shouldve made it even more explicit at the end of this post, i hadnt thought i would need to since i started the post with this, but i think a few too many people are missing my point so i just wanna clarify. i shouldnt have said 'really clashed' and left it at that because yeah they did, but it wasnt just their opposite methods of communication, it is also very much that toshiro was experiencing microaggressions via laios. it may have been unintentional on laios's part, but it still happened and wore him down, made it harder for him to communicate on top of both the more subtle social cues that he was raised with and his own communication difficulties. i also want to say that the fandom reaction to toshiro and the complete ignorance of this point is also racist tbh or at the very least ignorant. i understand that the anime did not cover this panel, and neither did the manga, as this was an omake, but im gonna be real with you guys. there are enough context clues within the story to clue you into this. if you didnt pick up on it thats ok, but i think this is a good lesson in picking up subtext in the stories that youre watching and/or reading. kui shouldnt have to explicitly say 'by the way laios was racist to toshiro' for this point to be understood, and at the very least, when the author portrays a character in a sympathetic light (as kui clearly does) it should make you question Why they are doing so and what makes them sympathetic, rather than youre immediate and only reaction to be 'well i hated what this guy did/said so i hate them and they suck'. idk exactly how to finish this, just. idk. question your biases and gut reactions to things you see in media and stories, and think about whether or not theres subtext that youre missing.
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ikiprian · 2 months
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Mr. Fenton is a competent teacher. Almost too competent.
If Mr. Daniel Fenton had any more than a BS (with a minor in education), Tim would’ve flagged his profile as a potential Rogue. That’s the way of most charismatic academics, at least in Gotham. (Got a PhD? Instant watchlist.) Instead, he’s Gotham Academy’s newest celebrity, as a young, passionate, out-of-towner substitute while the chemistry teacher’s on maternity leave.
Tim gets the hype. Fenton seems to genuinely love teaching, and is invested in the welfare of the student body. He hands out bananas during exam week, hosts a “study habits seminar” each month to coach effective learning strategies, and the third time Tim falls asleep in his class, he even pulls Tim aside to ask if he’s doing okay. With all the late work he accepts and the protein bars he sneaks Tim, he’s every teen vigilante’s dream teacher. He could’ve been Tim’s favorite.
In fact, Mr. Fenton was Tim’s favorite. Up until Tim walks into Mr. Fenton’s chemistry classroom for a forgotten textbook, an hour after the final bell.
On the board where tallied scores for today’s review game had been kept, “THE CHEMISTRY BEHIND DR. CRANE’S FEAR GAS: ANXIOGENICS, NERI’S, & YOU,” is now scrawled. A detailed diagram of the human endocrine system projects in front of a small crowd of adoring and attentive students.
Fenton is wrist-deep in the skull cavity of an anatomical model. A short tug, and out pops the brain.
It’s plastic. It’s fake.
Tim identifies the nearest emergency exit.
Fenton turns to the door, and in the dark classroom with the projector illuminating half his face, his eyes almost seem to flash red. “What’s up, Tim?” he asks. His friendly grin is too big for his face. “I didn’t know you wanted to join the Just Science League!”
[OR: Danny’s a science teacher at Tim’s school. Gotham’s a pretty wild place, even for someone who grew up a superhero in a ghost-infested town, so he takes it upon himself to start a club teaching kids how to manage themselves in the event of a crisis. These Gothamites are pretty hardy, but a little extra training never hurt anybody! And he suspects one of his students might be a teen vigilante, like he’d been, back in the day. As a senior super, it's Danny’s duty look out for him! Surely, this is the subtlest and most appropriate way to give the kid pointers.]
[Tim immediately assumes supervillain.]
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vaguely-concerned · 3 months
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sometimes I think of all the on-the-surface warm, well-meaning but deeply ineffectual advice and attention john gives harrow through harrow the ninth (make some soup and get some sleep! get a hobby! don't be so hard on yourself! self care harrow! as long as I need take no actual responsibility in this relationship whatsoever I would have loved to be your dad!) set up against the stark truth that with his other hand he has been staging her attempted horrific murder again and again and again like a living nightmare on the logic that it will 'put her down or fix her'. and then I find that I wish there is a hell. a special hell where twitch streamers turned necromantic death emperors go
#the locked tomb#harrowhark nonagesimus#john gaius#harrow the ninth#this is why I don't buy john as misunderstood and initially well-meaning AT ALL#this is a pattern you see with him again and again and again -- right down to his interpersonal relationships#(and indeed it's in the more grounded interpersonal relationships you can most clearly see him as he is I think#the fantasy death empire of a thousand years doesn't register quite as viscerally because it's like. heightened; not quite real#but the emotional violence and manipulation that surrounds him? oh boy that is EXTREMELY real and scarily well-observed)#there's a premeditation to so much of what he does (contracts with planets that only end 'in the event of the emperor's death' anyone?#yeah john we get it you're hilarious and I wish you weren't)#the greatest trick john ever pulled was making anyone think he's just a lil guy. what does he know he's only god#when you first read the book the complete callousness of the other adults is so horrible that john seems like an oasis of care#(though you start to get this uneasy feeling when that care never seems to translate to like... relief or soothing or resolution)#and it makes it feel almost obscene when you find out what's actually going on#it's the mercy & augustine enabler hour but at least they're completely honest in their cruelty there#while john is -- well he sure is being john huh#this is just me being angry with him btw philosophically I don't think this is how the story will or should end#(with john slam dunked right into hell that is)#it's just... harrow is so vulnerable. and what he does to her is so insidious and fucked up#john is very deeply human. unfortunately the capacity to quite simply suck so much is deeply human too
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flamingpudding · 5 months
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Bruce stared. He had just been lecturing one of his son on his gala manners. Dick or Jason were usually the ones misbehaving like that, not Tim! What had gotten into his son to behave like that in public when he wasn't even in a sleep deprived state. Of course, Bruce had to lecture his kid and benched him for the night to get some sleep because Tim had to be sleep deprived to act like that. That was untill said son, he was lecturing, came through the front door shouting at him for leaving him behind at the gala.
His head swayed between Tim and the teen he had apparently just abducted and possibly has now knowledge of their secret identities.
Okay, maybe Alfred was right about his amount of sleep. Bruce brain went to overdrive, he could play it all of with an extended Brucie act.
That was before the teen lifted on hand in a calming manner and sheepishly smiled at him.
Danny: I get the whole secret identity thing, but i dont think it's a good idea to bench me, when ghost might come attacking. I won't tell a soul about yours if you keep mine! I can make a death vow if that helps. So can I call vlad now? As much as I like getting on his nerves and away from him. HE is my original ride home.
Tim: Wait, Vlad Masters who pestered ME all night is your guardian?
Bruce continued staring at the teen that looked like Tim and was now talking to his son while his son was parallel texting on his phone. No doubt telling his other sibling.
Good, they will never let this go and Alfred will use this situation against him next time he works through several nights.
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muun-jai · 1 year
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I know Satan is like, an angry terrifying being in nightbringer like SATAN the avatar of wrath !
BUT anytime i go on my home screen and he's like
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ALL I CAN SEE IS JUSt--
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fumifooms · 3 months
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Kaka compilation
Because everyone is sleeping on him. Witness his greatness!! First two Kaka colored icons were colored by me, lineart by Ryoko Kui though!
Kaka & Kiki are kinda like Laios & Falin… Kaka being stoic and giving repressed energy like early Laios, Kiki being cryptic and always smiling and kinda soft-looking. Autism siblings 2, ostracized and othered as kids and have a deep bond due to sticking together through it all, though unlike with Laios their parents are very loving so Kaka developed family as a big value more than Laios (bc asides for Falin Laios doesn’t care much about it).
In the gnome festival comic you can see Kaka is more emotive than he seems! Full with a :3 face, and he’s the one crying at the end. He’s insecure about his legs and being tall… It really got to him. Conceal don’t feel. In the gnome festival comic you also see him sensing others’ gaze on him and that something is off unlike Kiki, again Laios-like in the way that judgement from others gets to him more than her.
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doumekiss · 4 months
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if you break it down Kabru's journey on the whole manga is about the ridiculous lenghts he will go through just to get this one weird guy to notice him and talk to him a little bit
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0oxxo · 6 months
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He's so silly
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mumuqings · 4 months
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tgcf book spoilers, but one mu qing and xie lian snippet that I think about a lot is this one, at the start of xie lian’s second banishment when he’s surprised to hear mu qing being described as generous and kind:
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as opposed to this memory from before his first ascension when mu qing started giving out cherries to the kids in the city:
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I think it just really goes to show 1) how deeply mq’s actions truly affected xl and what he thought of him, but also 2) just how different mq and xl are fundamentally in the way that they think and approach things.
I don’t have a lot of commentary on xl that hasn’t already been said, but bc we get the story from xl’s pov, we see a lot of mq’s actions being framed as selfish or suspicious (which is fair, bc again, we know how much his actions hurt xl), but we also see a lot of misconstrued kindness, like in book 8 where it’s revealed that he knocked out fx in order to save him. it’s also pretty obvious how much mq still cares abt xl, with how quickly he volunteers as fu yao and the lengths he goes to protect him when he deems hc a threat, so I also think it’s very likely that mq leaving the trio first was exactly what he said it was — that he thought becoming a junior official, ascending quickly, would be the best way to take care of not just his mother, but also xl, fx, the king and queen, and himself, and so in a way, him leaving was him acting on his kindness. but ofc it doesn’t work out, and he spends the next 800 years fighting w/ fx about it, defending himself, his decisions, and his kindness, and nitpicking the accuracies of his statues while he himself remains completely misunderstood by the two people he probably cares abt the most.
and idk, I guess I just think that’s probably a really lonely way to spend 800 years.
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opera-ghost · 30 days
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god i love the part of the leroux novel when erik “have i really committed murders?” phantomopera is like “christine if you marry me i would be as gentle as a lamb………….” while the daroga and raoul are being microwaved and there’s a mountain of gunpowder beneath their feet ready to explode and kill them all if she says no
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