#national divorce

[whatareyoureallyafraidof]

Moscow Marge.

#Marjorie Taylor Greene #Moscow Marge #MoscowMarge #National Divorce #Civil War #Qasim Rashid #Red States #Blue States #GDP #welfare #infant #maternal #mortality #murder #murder rate #Gross Domestic Product #Woke #Democrat #Democrats #Democratic #traitor #sedition

[hatesaltrat]

If “they” have it all figured out, do you ever pause and truly consider your current position?

Are you certain you’re right?

Is it possible that you’ve been led to the hill you’re willing to die on by those who wish you ill?

I challenge my stance constantly. I don’t know for sure anymore.

Everything is fake and gay.

#salty’s tigers #national divorce #Nationalist #community #mk ultra #Manchurian #diversion

[country-corner]

Hear some crazy stuff on the Shortwave radio.

Was listening to the shortwave earlier (I like scanning the World Bands from time to time) and heard a conversation (sounded like a take show of some form). Disclaimer: Not sure where the broadcast was originating from. The person being interviewed was saying that he loved that the White Supremacists, Nazis and Fascist are embracing the idea of a US break up (then laughing said Divorce) finally. But it's not going to work how they think.

(Highlight of a 30+ minute conversation) The freedom loving Democratic States already have the plans drawn up and will make sure to land-lock the Fascist States.... Refuse to let them take from any Democratic State any children into the Fascists States.... Any flight in or out will be shot down.... Cut off or destroy all energy, oil or gas production or supply line to the Fascists States.... Finally, if they try to leave their border they will be shot on sight, like every Nazi in the world needs to be.

Sounds to me like at least one side who wants a National Divorce has been making plans on how they want it to work out.

But that doesn't matter, it will lead to a Civil War, plain and simple. Causing hundreds of thousands if not million+ of deaths on both sides. Not just from the fighting, but from food and medication shortages. If the guy on the Shortwave was even half right in his claims then there will be people also dying of cold in the winter time.

Whether this guy was speaking the truth (as he knew it) or just blowing hot air out of his pipe dreams, if you are for a National Divorce do you honestly think you can negotiate a civil split of the States with people like this? Do you honestly think that a split can happen without a Civil War breaking out?

The scary thing is I have heard people on the right, who want a National Divorce, calling for Conservative States to do to the Communist States practically the same thing. So are they the good guys for calling for the same atrocities that the other side is calling for?

#national divorce #big split #civil war

[thehalfwaypost]

#national divorce #civil war #politics #liberals #liberal

[ancaporado]

oh boy we cooking

#national divorce #secession #texit #diagolon #civil war #federalism #immigration

[mountainherder]

Everyone wants divorce but nobody thinks of antietam at the walmart (2023)

#union dixie #trap #mtg #sherman #national divorce

[joe-england]

Let's talk about divorce, nationally....

No, it’s really not a good idea.

#youtube #national divorce #marjorie taylor greene #federal government #money #economics #red states #blue states #subsidies #assistance #conservatives #republicans #far right #culture war #beau of the fifth column #america #united states #politics

[kp777]

#marjorie taylor greene #national divorce #spencer cox #red states #maga republicans

[arcticdementor]

(link)

#michael malice #twitter #screenshots #national divorce #akiva cohen #alaska #russia #this alaskan agrees #when the alternative is california portland and seattle

[inkandguns]

Canadian Frank Buckley drags this kid in to the deep water during this debate..

He straight carpet bombed this kid. If you like one sided debates this is a good one.

#national divorce

[lmaverick123]

It's Time To Do a National Divorce of the Bible Belt States

I remember when former Texas Governor Rick Perry was talking about how Texas should secede from the Union, and the whole time I was thinking to myself – do it!  Fucking do it!  Take Texas and all the stupid Texans away from this country.  Let America progress into the 21st century without having to deal with the stupidity that emanates from Texas.  It sounded like a great idea to me then.  Now,…

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#America #Bible Belt #Conservative #National Divorce #Secede #Secession #South #Texas

[biglisbonnews]

Michael Steele roasts "crazy fool" Marjorie Taylor Greene for over a minute: "Shut the hell up!" (video) Former RNC Chair Michael Steele laid into Marjorie Taylor Greene on MSNBC in a 1:23-minute rant. (See video below, posted by Mike Sington.) When asked about Marge's push for a "national divorce," Steele laughed. "She has no clue what she's talking about! — Read the rest https://boingboing.net/2023/03/03/michael-steele-roasts-crazy-fool-marjorie-taylor-greene-for-over-a-minute-shut-the-hell-up.html

#Post #Video #marjorie taylor greene #michael steele #msnbc #national divorce #secession #Carla Sinclair #Boing Boing

[country-corner]

New States or National Divorce

Over the last couple of days, it seems everywhere I turn I'm hearing talk about a national divorce. Again.

Over the last several months, on a different platform, I've been talking with several people from Oregon and Washington, that is where I hear the most talk about a national divorce, what brought them to this way of thinking.

Most of the complaints are about how the State Governments have become to totalitarian, violates Constitutional rights, institution of Marxist or Communist laws, rules, or regulations.

So I pose a simple line of questioning. In the late 1930's early 1940's the State of Jefferson was formed on the border of Oregon and California. It was revived again in 2016 with more counties added (with some chatter as early as the late 1990's early 2000's). Would you be willing to back that movement?

For several decades, almost 100 years, there has been one group or another trying to break Eastern Washington off of Western Washington to form it's own State. It even got votes in the Washington State Legislature a few times, one vote for the split fell short by just a couple votes. Would you be willing to back such a split?

There was one group had even drawn up a plan to split Eastern Oregon, North Idaho, Western Montana and Eastern Washington into a new State. Would you back that kind of movement?

Then there is the Greater Idaho movement where most of Oregon's counties have voted to leave Oregon and join Idaho. With some suggestions of bringing Eastern Washington in as well. Would you back that?

The majority response was NO. No, because Boise, Helena, Olympia, Salem or DC would never go for it. No, because there are too many living in the area who would vote against it. No, do you know how hard and how much work it would be forming a new State. Even when reminded that Democrats have talked about giving DC and Puerto Rico Statehood, with the (alleged) thought that it would give them 4 permanent Democrat Senate Seats, guaranteeing a permanent Democrat majority in the Senate. They still say no.

But many of those are openly calling for a National Divorce, fulfilling the Mid 20th century Communist dream of the balkanization of the US.

Some talk like it is the easiest thing to do (won't do Statehood because it's too hard but build new Nation would be easy?). Others talk like every State Capital would go along with the Divorce idea with no disagreements. Still others talk like everyone in the country would go for it with no disagreement. I have even seen a few say it is the "Final Solution" to the discourse within the US.

It brings in the question to me, are these people the useful idiots that the old Communists loved to see? Are they actually Communists pretending to be "Concerned Conservatives" trying to break up the US? Are they just too brainwashed by the media, education system and political pundits to accept any alternatives? Are they just too tired or too lazy to put in the work of forming a new State? Or have they just given up and don't really care anymore?

I've said it before, a National Divorce or a Big Split as some call it, would not work out like many think it would. It would greatly weaken both of the new nations. It's not the Conservative or Liberal dream that some political commentators try to make it sound like. Because there will be both Conservative and Liberal people who will refuse to move leaving people with strong political ideologies in the middle of (what I've heard some refer to as) the "enemies territory." And do you honestly think, if there is a split or divorce, that the US Constitution will come through to either of the new Nations as is?

And that doesn't even address those I hear talk about a new Civil War like they're playing Call of Duty.

I'm not saying I have all the answers, but I know that a National Divorce is not the answer. Nor is a Civil war. Forming new States might be. There may be other answers that have not been voiced out there. But look around. Get out of you echo chamber box and talk with your family, coworkers, neighbors fellow Church or Club members, but talk with them not at them. You might find that you and that person who has a different political view may have more in common than you thought and can come up with something better than anything being talked about now. But TALK.

#political #national divorce #big split #personal opinion

[thehalfwaypost]

#marjorie taylor greene #confederacy #national divorce #civil war #satire

[sgreffenius]

Will historians someday compare Joe Biden to James Buchanan or Lyndon Johnson? Let’s take Johnson first, as I came of age during his disastrous tenure in office. Why do I call it disastrous? Because after Jack Kennedy’s death in 1963, he followed his Joint Chiefs of Staff, and his cabinet advisors, into a quagmire, as it was called then. Quagmire is a euphemism for a war you cannot win, and one you cannnot exit. Defense-speak invented the phrase exit strategy to stress the damage that occurs when get involved in a conflict that offers no way out. Needless to say, you do not need an exit strategy when you win.

Worst of all, Johnson did not recognize the United States could not win the war until it was way too late. He said grimly, “I won’t be the first American president who loses a war.” If you say that, you have already lost it. The comment suggests you have no prospect of victory, only trial and error to make the best of a bad situation. A lot of young American soldiers and Vietnamese villagers die with each one of your errors. When he finally recognized that the country he led could not win, he announced to the nation in late March, 1968 that he would not run for reelection in the fall.

We have forgotten by now the amount of domestic violence the nation suffered over the war during the 1960s and 1970s. When the war and the draft ended, the violence ended. It was a single-issue rebellion, and you could say the violent, confrontational means worked. It left the country exhausted, though, and created a political culture that some members of future generations might regard as the good old days. You could see that temperament, even nostalgia in the globalization protests, and the Occupy Wall Street movement.

Some of the worst violence occurred after LBJ’s announcement in March. Assassins shot Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy within two months of each other, in April and June 1968. Infamously, Richard Daley turned his storm troopers loose on protesters in Grant Park during the Democratic National convention in August. Running battles developed in the streets of Chicago. People who watched on television were appalled.

You might say that Johnson was not responsible for Daley, or for political assassinations. He was responsible for the war that led to a climate of domestic violence. Similarly, we have had our own version of political violence in this country since 9/11. The examples are appalling, beginning with torture under George W. Bush, with more recent episodes in the widespread riots during the summer of 2020, and the insurrection at the Capitol in 2021. These spasms of violence will not stop on their own, as violence related to Vietnam subsided after the war ended in 1973.

Current patterns of violence will not end, even if one side or the other appears to win. Elections certainly will not decide the matter. As we saw with Lincoln’s election, festering conflicts can become a lot worse after an election. Southern states threatened to secede if Lincoln were elected, and they followed through. Historians rank Buchanan as a poor president because he showed no firm leadership during the troubled time from 1957 to 1861. In the end, you cannot blame Buchanan or Lincoln for the Civil War. You can only praise or blame leaders for what they do, or do not do, under the circumstances. Lincoln’s leadership shines by comparison with Buchanan’s.

Will we have a leader of Lincoln’s caliber as we move into the millennium’s third and fourth decades? Many now might argue that Lincoln ought to have let the southern states secede, that the cost of ending slavery would have been less had he done so. Still, two more generations of slavery would have exacted a high price, and I agree with the sentiments Lincoln expressed in his Second Inaugural, where he acknowledged the price in blood in order to end slavery had to be paid.

Now we are in a period where political violence does not have a focus like slavery or the Vietnam war. It seems free floating, as one might expect from an attack like 9/11 and its aftermath. I think we feel deeply uneasy about that attack, because we cannot reconcile this event with our basic sense of political reality. If adultery leads to divorce in a marriage, it can do so even if the wronged party cannot present evidence to convict the adulterer. In the case of political violence, citizens feel that something went awry in our political culture as a result of 9/11, though we do not know exactly what happened, or why. We just know we do not want to live together anymore.

Again, we cannot lay all of these difficulties at President Biden’s feet. Still, we want a president who sees things whole, who is a hedgehog and not a fox, to use Isaiah Berlin’s comparison. Biden is a fox, and not so cunning for all that. We need a leader who fits the times. That means someone with skills to lead in a time of division so severe that, for many, free floating violence appears the only way to prosecute conflict.

#pelosi #political violence #leadership #9/11 #national divorce

[tequiilasunriise]

Your honor theyre so divorced coded

Like Raven don’t try to awkward smile your way outta this one you left the polycule and Summer is still mad

Rosebird Nation stays winning like yeah I would become a super secluded and jaded bitchass if I went on a secret mission with my ex-wife I abandoned but am still in love with and then watched her die right before my eyes and kill the last shred of hope from me like yeah. Yeah I truly get it Raven.

“You sound just like your mother.”

HITTING DIFFERENT FR FRRRR

#I NEVER LOSE ROSEBIRD NATION HOW ARE WE FEELING I SAID WE WOULD GET ROSEBIRD CRUMBS #AND WE GOT A WHOLEASS SCENE OF THEM BEING TENSE DIVORCED WIVES #WINNNIJNNGGG #when summer died so did all of raven’s hope #we still dunno who the FUCK partnered with who in team strq but i’ll accept that sacrificed fer divorced polycule wives #rwby #rwby spoilers #rwby v9 #rosebird #raven branwen #summer rose #divorced wives