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bitter-hibiscus · 1 month
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The real truth is that every single Jason Todd ship exists only for his benefit, and not his partner's. It's not just Jayroy, though that may be the most extreme example of it alongside jaytalia. Any character who is romantically involved with Jason has to be bastardized to some level, either because their morality would make it impossible for them to be with Jason (Roy, Kyle, Kara, Steph, Barbara, etc) or because Jason's character would go entirely against what their character needs/is working towards (Rose, Artemis, Kori, Slade, etc). It's always about what Jason needs and what Jason could get from that potential relationship, because he doesn't really... have anything to offer. Jason as Red Hood centers his story in violence and self-isolation. Even in his current The Hill run, where he's learning to trust people yada-yada, he's lonely. Because he chooses to be. And that's why every Jason Todd ship feels forced if you're a fan of whatever partner of choice, because Jason isn't at a point of himself and his life where he can offer anything in a relationship. Idk word vomit sorry
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heartsforvalentinexx · 5 months
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my roleplay info !! <3
hi there loves!! you may call me valentine, my pronouns are he/vamp/fangs/petals and i am 19 years old. this post is in dedication to everything that you need to know about me if you want to roleplay! it is very important to me that those who want to roleplay with me read this because it has a lot of my boundaries, my dni and byf/byi, comforts and discomforts and general information that i will need you to know and keep in mind while we roleplay. if you are interested in roleplaying, once you finish reading this post and if you find all terms agreeable, then you are more than welcome to message me or reply to this post! i'll get to you asap. <3
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do not interact: basic criteria (racist, anti lgbtq, ableists, cop supporters, fetishizers, pro-ship, lolicons/shotacons etc), people under 16, yagami yato supporters, jason spisak supporters, hyv apologists, vivziepop apologists, font users, ppl who don't credit art when they send it/when they use it on their profile, ai art users, uses the word "cringe" to be mean to other people, ppl who make mommy/daddy etc jokes, kaeluc shippers, vanco shippers, silco x viktor shippers, huskerdust/snakebomb/charlalastor shippers
before you follow/interact: use tone indicators when talking to me, please ask me before adding me or sending me a friend/follow request (ppl i dont know adding me without permission makes me really anxious), if you want my socials or my uid for genshin or hsr just ask, don't directly talk of feeding tubes/hospitals at me, don't talk badly about my pets/comfort things, educate/correct me etc when needed, dont ask about my eating habits, i make nsfw jokes lmk if i make you uncomfortable or if u want me to stop, i curse + use caps a lot without censoring, i'm an age/pet regressor, ask before venting to me, dont joke-flirt with me unless i say its okay
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roleplay information
• i only roleplay on discord, and i like to use private servers as a way to stay organized and store information.
• my timezone is eastern standard time! (EST)
• i'm literate to novella. i write 3-5+ paragraphs regularly and i write in third person. i will only ever write under my usual length if i am unmotivated, tired, feeling rushed or feel as though my partner has not given me enough of a response to work with. my length usually depends on several things (how well i'm doing mentally/physically, if i'm busy or not, my motivation etc). if you'd like samples of my writing, or if you have questions, i'm more than happy to provide. i would just appreciate if you matched my length and pov.
• i will not be interested in anything if there isn't romance in it. soft romance has always been my jam. i'm more than happy to do familial or platonic pairings in roleplays and such, but if there isn't romance, i will be bored very quickly and likely give a very short response if i respond at all. i enjoy fantasy, adventure, drama, slice of life roleplays etc. i also enjoy angst, but i can't take a lot of it because i'm sensitive and it may upset me so please talk out anything you wanna do that's angsty before putting it into play. the only genres i won't do is horror, nsfw (erp, +18, etc) and anything with furries (nothing against them ofc, just not my jam).
• i would like to think i'm very creative when it comes to plots so i come up with things on the spot very easily, but i can't guarantee i'm always going to be able to come up with something and i certainly will not be doing all of the work to think a plot out. i would like it if my roleplay partner was invested in it as well. it's okay if you don't have anything in mind beforehand, though it is extremely helpful and less straining on both of us. of course i don't mind coming up with one together! i'm always happy to work something out and talk about it.
• i mainly do 1x1 roleplays and that is my main comfort because social settings give me a lot of anxiety. i may be interested in a small private roleplay setting, but please ask me first. i'm not too interested in public roleplay settings, so you can ask me about those, but i don't guarantee a yes.
• i am comfortable with doing both fandom and fandom-less roleplays. i am comfortable with cc x cc and oc x oc. i also love oc x cc, however i only do double-ups with that. my fandom list is below so you can scroll and go read that, and there are definitely more than what i put on there so you can ask me for more if you want. as for fandomless roleplays, i have many ocs to work with. i will send them and their information once we exchange discord users and get to talking. i am comfortable with bxb, bxg, gxg, bxa/gxa/axa, even polyamorous ships!! just ask me and i'll tell you if i want to do it!
• i'm typically almost always available given that i don't attend school or work, but that doesn't mean i will always want to roleplay or talk. i enjoy doing other things than roleplaying like gaming and watching movies/shows, i have friends that i like to talk to and spend time with, i have my mental and physical health that i need to maintain etc. please just be mindful that i can't always get back to you right away, and please for the love of the gods do not spam me. i also ask that you understand that my responses take time, usually 3-7+ days. you can send me a reminder if i haven't responded within over a week. please just understand that i will get to you when i can and so feel up for it.
• if you are comfortable, please send me your triggers. i'm not comfortable publicizing my triggers due to the fear of having them used against me, and i'd rather avoid that, so i will not post them here. we can send them into a channel made specifically to store our triggers once we make a private server. i want to make sure that we are comfortable with each other and know each other's boundaries, so only if you want to and feel safe to, then please send me your triggers and discomforts. if you aren't, though, then that's okay! just let me know that that's the case and i will be sure to be mindful. /nf lh gen
• please communicate your feelings and thoughts with me. if you wanna change something or start a new roleplay, or maybe you wanna stop roleplaying and part ways, then tell me. if you have an idea for the roleplay, tell me about it so we can talk about how we feel about it and if we wanna do it. i promise you i won't be mad at you if you talk to me about things, if anything i want you to. this also goes for outside of roleplay too. you are more than free to text me about anything at any time. i love making new friends and talking to people. i don't expect you to want to be bffs or anything, but if you want friendship, then don't hesitate.
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fandom list
• yona of the dawn
• snow white with the red hair
• fruits basket
• ouran high school host club
• fena: pirate princess
• skate the infinity
• genshin impact
● honkai star rail
• arcane: league of legends
• the arcana
• cherry crush
• marvel cinematic universe
• netflix's castlevania and castlevania nocturne
there's a lot more that i'm into other than this, so you can ask me !!
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neopolpleb · 3 years
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Slashers with a tech savvy/programmer s/o
includes: Poly!Ghostface, Micheal Myers, Jason Voorhees, Bo sinclair
all of these are written with the idea of it being modern day OR just modern day technology
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Poly!Ghostface
ok this one specifically is just my own self insert that i maladaptive daydream about </3 i wanna date billy and stu so bad
You never wanted to really get involved in the stabby stabby part of the ghostface business, but how could you not help your boys out ??
you hack into peoples security cameras to help the boys map out the house, sure spontaneity was fun but you were tired of the boys getting hurt because they went in there with little to no plan
stu once accidentally got a virus on your laptop when borrowing it and has been terrified to touch any of your stuff since
billy i hc is more on the techie side than stu- so he’s more likely to help you build a pc or listen to you rant about a new programming trick you learned
Stu isn’t as into it but he will be more than happy to listen to you rant about it, he even starts picking up on things. eventually you’ve turned him into a techie as well
billy definitely will get into long conversations about your projects, he finds it interesting what you do.
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Micheal Myers
Could not care less
What you do in your spare time does not bother him
but he’s an old man so he doesn’t understand it all. like anything, you have to baby him like he’s a grandma
you got him a phone so if you two were ever apart (vvv unlikely, even if you think he’s not there, he’s there) you could call each other
used it for two things: You and Porn.
Got a virus and had to pretend he had no clue how it happened and let you deal with it
now only one thing on that phone: you
he a very curious person, so when he saw you building your pc he just watched.
Like zero help. at all.
he likes listening to your voice, less to your words so rant about whatever problem your having with the application youre programming
allows you to slowly coarse him into also being tech savvy, he’s never gonna be amazing at it, but once you caught him googling something and you almost cried
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Jason Voorhees
why need technology when u have TREEEEES
you youngins and your fancy new telephones and computers
this man would go to the ends of the earth for you
but this is where he gets sketched out
Kicked your phone out of your hand the first time he saw you with it
you only needs hims. no phones ò3ó
you once mentioned the idea of security cameras and he didn’t look at you for the rest the day
how dare you insinuate he needs THAT DIRTY TECHNOLOGY to take care of HIS forest
give him extra kissies that night, he may be dead but you just killed his ego :(
good luck getting your pc out there, you’re lucky your phone and laptop isn’t at the bottom of the lake
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Bo Sinclair
Very clueless but will never admit it
you asked him if he had any security cameras around Ambrose and he snorted at you
“Darlin I basically built this town, i dont need no security cameras”
6 escapees later and he finally sets his pride down to let you install cameras
Well now you have a job! Ambrose security guard !
you get walkie talkies for yourself and the boys
You watch the cameras on your laptop whenever they’re visitors in town
You’ve learned to keep your laptop in your room because once vinnie got curious when he saw it on the couch and saw something going on in bo’s garage he definitely didn’t need to [wink wink]
he didn’t look or talk to either of you for two weeks
Bo is very anti technology, being his grumpy old fashioned southern man self but he knows how to use a computer and all the basics. but could never understand how or WHY you know all the stuff you do
but he cant really say no to you when you bring up upgrading your set up, the security cameras really did help and he could tell you were getting annoyed with your laptop
He lets you take over his unused office at the garage- he calls it your cave.
when you started building your pc he did help you, i mean how different can this be than fixing up a car???
his ego was so badly bruised when all he could understand was how to hand you a screwdriver when you asked
oh how the tables have turned
you mentioned you had a degree in programming and he definitely made fun of you
“really? so you went to school for four years just to type numbers in a computer”
don’t let his arrogance fool you, when he gets drunk he won’t shut up about how utterly attractive he finds your intelligence. but when he’s sober he’ll poke as much fun at you as he can
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sodaabaa · 3 years
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DC TITANS SEASON 3 RANT
spoilers for dc titans season 3!!!
who else was super excited to finally get a red hood live action only to be disappointed w this half assed plot line. I mean how did they mess up that bad when they had so much material to work with :/
you’re telling me that jason died, came back to life, and became the red hood, had his showdown w nightwing and was revealed to be red hood all in the span of 3 episodes. what happened to development? what happened to the build up? I feel like the writers were really clinging onto the redhood thing and rather than showing how he became the red hood, they just shoved him in our faces.
I feel like there was sooooo much potential that just went down the drain because of how rushed these three episodes were. why did this jason even become the red hood? we didn’t see how or why, it just happened? like did he plan this out before he died?? also the death scene was... anticlimactic. the kid was trained by batman! you’re telling me he was knocked out that easily, he didn’t even fight back?? it was all just so rushed I can’t even fathom how it all happened.
I wish we had a side plot of jason becoming redhood (being trained by the league of assassins etc) instead of focusing on him being a villain? which is also just not jason at all... it feels like the writers have a superficial understanding of jasons character and just rolled w it. he’s protecting criminals but hurting civilians and children, apparently he doesn’t read (that shit hurted) and he’s using anti-fear gas? I hope this is just scarecrow influencing him and not him acting on his own.
also why are the writers so adamant on using swearing as much as they can. giving 12 year old learns swear words for the first time vibes. you can be gritty and grown without swearing people! gotham did it and it remains the best dc tv show out there.
also also, the aging of the cast is so weird and doesn’t work. bruce is like 95 years old while dick is like at most 30 like when did bruce adopt dick and how old was he? and then jason and tim look to be the same age when they should be a few years apart. the timing is all just so off because it should be: jason dies - becomes red hood (which doesn’t happen overnight, it should take a year or two) - while jason is away, tim (younger than jason) becomes robin (a big reason for jasons anger) - jason comes back - etc etc. jason doesn’t even get replaced yet, why is he so angry?? and bruce even killed the joker!!! another big reason for jason’s anger!! so why is bb boy killing innocent people >_>
I know it’s supposed to be different and new but it just doesn’t work because the writing is so half assed and so many opportunities are wasted.
to the writers: if you’re gonna try to cater to the fans by adding beloved characters, do it right. dont screw up the characters and rush plot lines just to give more screen time to an underdeveloped fan favorite. do fanservice right or don’t do it at all.
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popculturebuffet · 4 years
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Ducktales Reviews: The Trickening!
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Halloween Havoc continues! Louie’s greed and lack of concern for his brother’s feelings or well thought out schedule leads them to a real life haunted house with vampire clowns, dummies, a scary well lady and a gelatinous cube. Because there’s’es always room for gelatinous cube. Meanwhile Della wants to use Launchpad’s dangerous misconceptions about halloween to traumatize children for funzies and Donald had a problem with that for some reason. Also Scrooge is kind of an asshole on Halloween it turns out. No one is suprised. Ghosts, goblins, and full review with spoilers under the cut. 
Happy halloween month everybody! Halloween Havoc, aka my spate of halloween reviews continues as I roll into my first actual halloween episode review of the season! Yeah weird but so far we’ve covered demons getting exorcisims, little girls thinking they can raise the dead, and a horrifying plauge guided by the human incarnation of all that is evil, but not the actual holliday itself. Weird ain’t it? Well that changes with this so as always pitter patter. 
It’s HALLOWEEN here in duckberg, and the mansion kids are planning Trick or Treating. Natural given Huey’s OCD, he has everything planned out a and naturally the kids all have unique and adorable costumes. Huey is gizmoduck, though with a GK instead of  GD, a nice nod to “New Gizmokids on the BLock’ From the original series, an episode I haven’t seen but have heard of so theres that. It’s also because he likely wants to be Fenton’s kid sidekick which.. yeah please do that show. It’d be so fucking adorable. Plus Huey needs to be happy for once without having to go through a gauntlet of misery first. Let my boy be happy. +
Anyways Dewey’s is rather disapointing as it’s a “pirate on vacation” which while hilarious and very dewey, is kind of an anti-climax after months of speculation. Webby is some kind of ancient demon king as apparently in the duckverse the origins of halloween are based on appeasing various monsters, and this is so she can hide from them effectively. And Louie.. is Huey. Which means putting on Huey’s hat and a terribly insulting impression of him. 
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Meanwhile Donald and Della are an angel and a devil, with, which I didn’t realize until a tumblr post, Della’s costume being the one one of the boys wore in the classic disney trick or treat short. So that’s a nice nod. Donald wants to nicely give out candy while Della wants to terrify the children. Both end up disapointed as Scrooge instead boots everyone from the house and locks the mansion gates, as he doesn’t like giving out handouts which.. yeah that tracks. 
As it turns out Scrooge also has his own plans.. which are gloriously ludicrous, sounding like something Glomgold would do: He’s going to go trick or treating himself, as when he was a boy, this was the one time of year a poor lad like him could get treats and he worked his tail off to do so and wants to prove he’s still got it. And as we see later SOMEHOW he still gets candy. It’s like if THIS was actually sucessful. 
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I would genuinely not be suprised if Scrooge too hadn’t tried to get an oil well from an elementary school this way. As for leaving candy out he leaves out an empty take one bowl which is as clever as it is douchey. So in other words Scrooge in a nutshell. So with handing out treats and scares at the house a non-option, Della and Donald go to see what Launchpad’s doing since Beakly.. is.. I have no fucking idea. NO I really don’t, she shows up for the ending, but before that? If they mentioned where she was I clearly missed it because she’s just.. missing for most of the episode and given every other member of the main cast is accounted for this episode, it’s VERY noticable. Give her more to do dangit!
So yeah we get our two plots, which i’ll cover seperately, then cover the ending where they dovetail together. Kay? Kay. 
The Kid’s Plot centers around Huey and Louie.. specifically Louie wanting to go to a real life haunted house while Huey, as mentinoed has heavily established plans for their night. As for why Louie would go into danger, well as usual for when he does that theirs something in it for him: Rumor has it no kid has ever made it out with their candy.. thus leaving decades worth of candy just waiting to be nabbed and thus never having to trick or treat again. One big score for a payoff.. which didn’t make a lot of sense on first thought and my best guest is whatever preservative Gyro used for Oxy Chew, since it was still edible decades later, was probably spread to other candies since there’s no way in hell Scrooge would pass up a zillion dollar invention like that. Either way works.  Huey is outvoted as Dewey naturally wants the excitment and Webby wants to see if her demon costume works on actual demons. However things quicklky go wrong as they ecoounter a dewey dummy and a killer dummy, as well as a monster clown and a gelatonous cube, which yes. I may not play DnD but I love these things. 
The kids escape the house by accident while tryign to escape and Louie, still being a dick about things, finds out Huey DID know abotu the stash btu avoided it and Louie lays into Huey.. a bit much honestly, feeling he was agaisnt it purely because it wasn’t on schedule.. when you know, Louie could’ve asked to put it on schedule or actually given a damn about this, especially since Huey’s planned their trick or treats EVERY YEAR, so he’s had a full year to ask for this insane idea, or even the short time he’s known about it if shorter. Sure huey might of sputtered a bit, but Louie knows his other siblings, Webby and Dewey could convince him to loosen up and include the house. Louie’s just being kind fo a selfish dick here.. however i’ts not so overwhelming as to overpower the episode, as he has been before and while he should know better about risking his family’s lives after “Timephoon!” it is in character for him to protiize a big score like this over other people’s feelings and it’s not even the first time this season he’s done that. So fair enough. 
But we soon get the second best reveal of the episode: As the kids are backed into a corner by monsters.. they grumble theres no candy and it turns out the monsters.. ARE REAL.. but their traditional monsters like frankenstein, dracula, and the bride of frankenstein, just dressed up like this to scare kids. As it turns out the WHOLE THING is an elaborate yearly scooby doo hoax to get kids candy, with the brilliant twist it’s done by actual monsters> As the vampire points out they can’t exactly shop during the day.. or he can’t at least, so this is how they get candy for the year.. at tribute if you will. Also the Gelationous Cube gets a nice hat as you see above. It’s a REALLY clever twist and I absolutely love it. I DID NOT see it coming and even with some spoiler screenshots I thankfully did not have it spoiled for me. REALLY good stuff. 
As for why Huey’s been so obessed with his planning.. it’s actually really clever and really good character stuff: Huey simply got really into it because back when they were with donald this WAS their adventure for the year: the one time he let them cut loose and have fun, and he got a real kick out of it.. and Louie getting candy for life kind of destroys that. And that’s why Louie still works here.. because he instnatly realizes from this that was the problem and apologizes in his own way. It’s a nice bit of character from both: We’ve rarely had their pre-mansion lives factor in and it’s nice to see it for a change, and it’s nice to see Louie isn’t all dick, just like 20% dick. Unforutnately having no candy dosen’t appease the monsters who are pissed and descend on the kids.. until.. well for the until we have to back up a bit.  So onto the adult plot we go! Della and Donald go to Launchpad whose dressed in a jason mask and ash williams/jason coveralls, weilding a power sander and having barricaded his place. After he scares some children, a bit too much, and Della and Donald are reallyd amn confused, he explains.. and we get the best reveal of the episode.. which given the above is saying something but it’s clear like the “blath” gag in “Astro BOYD” and the non-anthro ducks gag last week, this is one of those things Frank has been keeping under his hat all series.  So as a boy Launchpad crashed his tryke into the mansion, ran into the monsters after reading off a candy wrapper.. and now assumes he unleashed a horde of monsters onto the world every halloween.. and tha’ts what he assumes the trick or treaters are. I just .. dont’ have a lto of words. This is pure comedy gold and easily the best gag of the episode and oen fo the best of the series. It’s clever, fresh, and really fits the character. Naturally Della wants to exploit this to terrify children ebcause she has underlying issues to adress while Donald tries to stop her. Thankfully before Della can get launchpad to scar children for life, Scrooge shows up and fights launchpad.. it’s part of why I also find scrooge’s dickery acceptable as launchpad beats the shit out of him.. it’s still an even fight, as not to suspend disbelief, but Scrooge still looses. I mean he gets out of being trapped in his candy bag easily because scrooge btu still, props to launchpad. So Launchpad decides to go face his fears and Donald and Della decide to stop him before he doesd a muder on a child.  Which leads to an AMAZING climax as Launchpad scooby doo chases the scared monsters around as they have no idea what the fuck’s going on and hte monsters end up really enjoying his scar eof htem and bowing to the master. It’s a good way to end it. After Della explains what’s going on, Louie and Huey decide to explain halloween to Launchpad by taking him to the once house he hasn’t been: the Manor. Scrogoe has finally opened it up, with a line of kids no less, the monsters bond with some kids in line. As for why.. as Webby sadly figures out Scrooge is charging admission, thakns to dewey who thought an all night candy store was a good idea which.. yeah it is. So everyone gets a happye ending and the monsters hang a photo of hte night up in the mansion. A really sweet ending, pun uintended but eh it’s welcome. 
Final Thoughts.  Easily one fo the series best. While the characters are a bit exagerated in places, i.e. della, launchpad , scrooge and louie, it works for the plot well enough and the jokes well enough to make it okay. My only real complaint is a lack of even a cameo from Lena and Violet, as it feels weird to not even have htem in the ending, much less trick or treating with their friends. It just feels odd and could’ve used a throaway line. I get WHY not , as Lena even pre-blue would’ve destoryed the tension with the monsters, but it still feeels really weird to not have them. But it’s a minor quibble in an otherwise REALLY funny and creative episode and a fun halloween treat to revist every year from now on. Really good work.  That does it for this week. For more halloween treats, follow this blog throughout october. So far i’ve done reviews of Demonicsim from Star Vs The Forces of Evil for Tomtober, Croaked, the Casagrandes day of the dead Special and the first of Marvel’s mini-series adapting Stephen’ King’s epic novel The Stand. And until next monday, or sooner if you decide to check any of that out, happy halloween!
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bigskydreaming · 4 years
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I saw your version of the Titans (way back, I was playing with Search) and I was wondering, what would Tim be? Especially since Nightwing and Flamebird encapsulate what a phoenix is so well. Obviously now they correspond to the World Forger and the Anti-Monitor, but your thoughts on the third generation?
So I believe you’re talking about the posts I’ve made about Jason’s age-group of Titans and lineup in an AU - That’s from a series I’ve bee working on for ages, called “Kings of the Sky” (which refers to all the Batfamily, not just Dick and Jason or even just the boys. Title comes from a story I have Dick tell that his grandfather told him, about why before he was married and he and his wife became the original Flying Graysons, in this AU’s history, when he was a solo act, he was billed as “Daniel Grayson, the King of the Sky!’ Just lofty, pretentious-sounding showmanship on the surface, something the aristocrats he performed for were happy to introduce this lowly commoner as, laughing all the while, but Daniel as I’ve made him out to be, had a particular fascination with names for specific reasons, and everything they could mean and be while not being what they seemed. So even as they laughingly billed him as such, they never got the real joke, which was passed down as a kind of family tradition that only Daniel’s family, the Flying Graysons, all Kings of the Sky, and then from there Dick’s second family, were really the only ones to ever get the way he intended it. There’s no such thing as a King of the Sky, of course, that’s the joke….but at the same time there is, and that’s the secret, because just because someone else looks at the name and pictures it as something its not, and thus says it can never be, doesn’t mean that for those who use that name, it means something very different, and that they very much are.
This AU goes divergent from the moment Dick gets involved in the Garzonas situation and weighs in, so Jason doesn’t go to Ethiopia because he never even goes back to his old apartment, desperately seeking some feeling of family to connect to. He has no need to here. And the second installment is about the aftermath of the Brother Blood storyline and addressing Dick’s non-adopted status at the time, and various other things, and then by the third installment, it starts introducing Jason to other friends his own age and gathering together his future lineup of Titans, mentored by Dick’s and who will be a kind of mentors to Tim’s (and Duke’s) in time as well…..and also starts to delve into the ACTUAL AU storylines of this series, once its thoroughly departed from canon at that point and I’ve sorted out my issues with Bruce’s reaction/belief about Garzonas and Bruce’s non-presence during the BB story and aftermath and the adoption issues. 
So by the third installment, Bruce is no longer getting yelled at by his sons about how to parent the other one and is doing the actual Batdad parenting and things start up with Jason’s Titans and storylines and Dick slowly becoming aware of the Court of Owls and their involvement in his family history and their plans for him (and just how many of them or their children/future Court members have been around him in galas and parties and various encounters throughout his childhood in Gotham). As well as bringing in the other members of the Batfamily one by one (or two by two in Tim and Duke’s case in this AU).
BUT for the most part, aside from the individual storylines, this AU is about family history. And not just Dick’s, even though he’s my fave and primary focus - I have an obnoxious need to be THOROUGH (read: obsessive) and a disgusting need to be FAIR (read: YOU get a storyline and YOU get a storyline and EVERYBODY GETS A STORYLINE!) and also just anal.
So its about the Batfamily being an actual family instead of dysfunctional occasional roommates, but its also how that doesn’t take away from their original families or experiences or their importance in shaping them, just as none of them by virtue of being their ‘original’ families take away from the importance of their second found family. Its all one and the same, family is family, their families are their families all at the same time and there don’t need to be all these partitions. So Kings of the Sky has a particular relevance to that not just for Dick, but in that its secret meaning to Daniel and how it described him and his family, all the way down to Dick, also ends up describing Dick’s second family, and there’s nothing coincidental or by chance about this, because the point is family is CHOICE and names only mean what you choose them to mean, what YOU see them as meaning.
So this AU could just as easily have been titled something like Family History, even though almost all of the members of their first families that come into play here do so in flashbacks and stories the Batfam tell each other about their first families and that their families told them. So Daniel Grayson and the start of the Grayson family line is hugely relevant and delved into, and not just for its connection to the Court and their storyline. Dick’s paternal grandparents here lived well into their eighties, because why the hell not, did canon say they couldn’t? did I ask? no and no. So his grandmother died when he was like two, and his grandfather a few years later, but Dick does remember a little bit and so Daniel’s lifelong quest to find out where he really came from, who he really WAS, becomes Dick’s mystery to solve once and for all so he can finally put that to rest for his grandfather and find some closure with his first family and not feel like he’s forgotten or abandoned them just because he’s so fully embraced his second one as being his as well. 
Only instead of solving the mystery being for Daniel’s sake, its really about what he finds being for his own sake, because as Dick’s Grandpa used to tell him: “A man who knows himself knows his own name,” and as Dick finds that even without ever definitively getting his answers while alive, Daniel was actually born to a Crowne and named himself King and knew who he was all his life and lived his life truly, and that’s the real answer Dick needs to realize that Cobb and his words and intentions mean nothing to Dick because Dick is not a Cobb and would never choose to be, he’s a Grayson and the Graysons have all, always to the last one, been who they choose to be and not a damn thing else, certainly never what anyone else believes them to be.
And Dick is Nightwing throughout this of course, except for one pivotal storyline towards the end of the series, where he and Jason go deep undercover as supervillains for awhile, and during that part of the series, Dick uses War Shrike as his name, and for those wondering, yes this means Boone is around and hugely relevant to this series in specific ways. And of course, he goes back to being Nightwing after. 
And Jason never goes to Ethiopia because he never goes back to his apartment building that time, but that doesn’t mean he never finds out about Sheila and goes looking for her, but when he does he’s not 15 and desperate for family, he’s 19 and on a road trip with his BFF Grant Emerson aka Damage who has his own questions about his unknown real family, but both HAVE families by now and don’t NEED more, they just want to know who’s out there and potentially close the book on that one way or another, which is a very different thing and different story, but also, fuck Sheila, and all of that will still come into play but Jason’s not alone this time and not so lonely he can be crushed by her not being the mother he in Ethiopia thought he needed her to be. Also, Sheila comes from a family of her own, and just because fuck Sheila, doesn’t mean there aren’t more relatives out there that aren’t just The Worst. 
And Jason is Robin in the first few installments of this series and then becomes Flamebird and usually most likely teamed up with Dick when they’re not with their individual Titans, and thus neither are ultimately off doing solo acts elsewhere and being lonely loners who actually hate being lonely. Except of course for the undercover storyline, at which point Jason uses the name Gray Jay, a kind of bird usually known for or referenced as being thieving and unpredictable and unexpectedly dangerous despite its size (Jason never went into the Lazarus Pit here and so isn’t as huge as he is in canon, he’s on the smaller side due to his early life’s malnutrition. Living with Bruce helped him catch up enough that he’s not TINY tiny, but he’s still smaller enough that this particular mantle fits him a little better than it would his massive canon depiction). And then of course after that Jason goes back to being Flamebird. 
(And the eternal drama that is the years long gay love quadrangle of DOOOM that is Jason and Tom Bronson and Ray Terrill and Todd Rice all being young dumb and gay and not even actually sure which of the other three they actually LIKE they just know that its possibly more than one of them but its definitely not all of them which why they are NOT a fucking polecule, shut the fuck up Courtney - Courtney Mason aka Anima - and never WILL be but are definitely a love quadrangle instead and a very confusing one and also dont call it that Dick its not that its NOOOOOT.)
I still have no idea how this even came about, I didn’t plan it, Lilith just sort of accidentally (hah) instigated it via meddling slash deliberately plotting while bored and chaotic and it was just too much fun to stop so I just haven’t yet and possibly never will. Also, Dick and Cass have WAY too much fun with it as well, particularly Cass, since there is ammunition against Dick in the form of “Shut up and go suck face with your assassin boyfriend”/I DONT EVEN LIKE BOONE LIKE THAT, JASON, GOD, SHUT UP, HE’S MY NEMESIS, UGH DO YOU EVEN KNOW ANYTHING YOU’RE SUCH A LOSER UGGGGGH, but of course it wouldn’t be fair to NEVER get to retaliate against Cass, so they eventually catch wind of her tripping and falling on her face because she forgets how movement works when crushing on a certain heroine, no its not Steph, its more one of those things where the other one is older enough that its not endgame and more of a crushing on one of your older brother’s friends which means they’re always around and oh no what if they FIND OUT THAT WILL BE SO EMBARRASSING I MIGHT ACTUALLY DIE but also NOOOOOO DONT FIGHT WITH MY DUMBASS OLDER BROTHER THAT MEANS YOU MIGHT STOP COMING OVER ALL THE TIME AND I WONT SEE YOU ALL THE TIME AND I MIGHT ACTUALLY DIE.
The….unique form of sibling interaction shared by the three eldest Batkids here ratchets up a DEF-CON danger level at that point. They are all armed then, and just desperate enough to use that ammunition if you press them.
So yes, Cass ends up the third to enter this family here, and Lady Shiva and everything there will play out much differently and she’s still not Mother of the Year or even like, good, but she is MORE than she is in canon here, and like, there’s actual depth and HISTORY there and also, there’s not with David Cain though because fuck that guy, just kill him, who cares where he came from just drop him in a hole and assume its the one he crawled out of in the first place. Pttthb. Loser.
And here Babs still is crucial in mentoring her even if she ends up being brought into the family and adopted by Bruce much sooner than in canon and it being Dick and Jason and Cass for awhile as the three Batkids. So Cass is there when Jason is still Robin for a couple more years, only moving to Flamebird when he’s around eighteen, and so she becomes Batgirl as Babs becomes Oracle, and is pretty much Batgirl all the way until she ends up becoming Black Bat (and Steph takes her place as Batgirl after previously being Spoiler. Steph’s around fairly early too, and not actually a member of the immediate family as things get better with her and her mom, but she delights in referring to herself as ‘that chick from Full House who doesn’t live there but is always there anyway, whether CERTAIN PEOPLE like it or not, and no I don’t know her name Bruce, its not like I watched the show, I’m not EIGHTY, what does any of that have to do with anything?)
And also in between Batgirl and Black Bat, Cass also partakes in the undercover storyline, just showing up uninvited in a persona she’s crafted for the mission and calls Black Swan, and War Shrike and Gray Jay being so startled and obviously a little freaked by her unexpected arrival, and her being ticked at her brothers for leaving her behind, RUDE, and them being sufficiently cowed and guilted by her wrath, that it all adds up to the other villains as being evidence that clearly she is the boss and they are her advance minions. Which mollifies and satisfies Cass immensely, and leaves Jason grumpy that their mission was hijacked and also his sister is The Worst, and leaves Dick temporarily disgruntled because This Whole Thing Was His Idea DAMMIT but then five seconds later finding it hilarious because Dick is a chaos connoisseur and he has an appreciation for whimsy and the unexpected.
Snippet from that fic’s outline:
“I can’t believe you not only gate-crashed our extremely sensitive and delicate undercover operation, but you completely hijacked it as well! This is so typical,” Jason grouched.
Cass simply swept ahead of him and strode down the hallway with lethal grace. “Silence minion.”
Jason spluttered behind her and she grinned to herself. He really made it too easy sometimes.
And Tim’s debut is delayed by the non-death of Jason and happens very differently as do things with his first family, too much to get into, but all of that is very relevant to the Family History theme of things, and in this AU he and Duke are actually the same age because what is Tim’s age anyway, what has Tim’s age ever been anyway, does anyone anywhere at any time actually know Tim’s age because I swear it is a quantum anomaly that randomly fluctuates at any given moment and eats brain cells that dare try and pin a number on it. And Duke and Tim are both in different foster care placements and have never met when both decide to become Robin after Jason becomes Flamebird and Robin is seemingly gone from Gotham, and its just Batman and Batgirl having father-daughter-kicking-supervillains-asses bonding nights. 
Because its not like in canon, but still, its unsettling, its weird, all the kids Duke and Tim both know feel it just the same. There’s always been a Robin in Gotham for as long as any of them remember at this point, there’s SUPPOSED to be a Robin, Gotham NEEDS Robin just as much as it needs Batman, and they’re not surprised adults don’t get that, because adults have always had Batman and he’s THEIRS and even if he’s there for the kids too, Robin is FOR the kids, HE’S theirs, and look, there just needs to be a Robin, okay? 
So Duke and Tim both decide well if there’s not a Robin and there’s gotta be a Robin and nobody else seems to be doing anything about it, hey, here comes Robin! At the same time. And then drama and conflict and chaos happens, and Duke and Tim end up taken in by B doing as B does, and they both end up Robin and alternate patrols so one can have a life while the other has Batman-bonding-and-bad-guy-battling time. With Duke most often being the daytime Robin and Tim the night time Robin, though there’s rarely any confusion from them both being named Robin, because Duke’s costume is more yellow and Tim’s is more Red and people pretty much always know which they’re talking about and if further clarification is needed, they just refer to them as Red and Yellow. Not Red Robin or Yellow Robin, more like “Wait, which Robin did you say was there? Oh it was Red.”
And so they’re Robin, and are about ready to graduate from that when the undercover storyline happens, so they temporarily take on the older two boys’ mantles for them so as to keep anyone from being suspicious and wondering where the hell Nightwing and Flamebird are these days anyway. So Tim is Nightwing for awhile and Duke is Flamebird, but then Dick and Jason take back those mantles which Tim and Duke happily relinquish and replace with their new mantles, at which point Tim is Kingfisher (too much plot stuff and family history stuff has to happen before an explanation of this would make sense at this point) and Duke is something like Blue Heron, I’m still fidgeting with that one because it doesn’t quite fit but none of the other options I’ve gone through yet are better. But its definitely a Blue bird and not like a Bluejay or anything like that, it has to be something like a Crane or Heron or a bird with certain connotations along similar lines to theirs, because Duke’s family history is hugely relevant here too (and largely made up by me like Daniel Grayson’s, given the scarcity in canon) but if you look around you can probably find a bunch of meta about how I feel Duke’s powers COULD be linked to Blue Lanterns in a lot of very specific ways even if I don’t think canon is going there. 
And this isn’t to make Duke a Blue Lantern, but rather here is similar to Alan Scott being imbued by the Starheart in the 40s while in Gotham, and basically ending up just like a Green Lantern but unaffiliated, and having children who inherit similiar powers to him and wildly different powers than him at birth, due to how the Starheart changed him. So here, at the same time that happened to Alan, there was another similar object that crashed into Gotham that same night, and that imbued Duke’s maternal grandmother with all the same abilities as a Blue Lantern, but again, no affiliation to the not-yet-existing Corps. So Duke’s grandmother and her previously-unknown-even-to-him story has a lot to do with certain installments just like Daniel’s story has to do with Dick’s story, as well as the revelations about Duke’s mother Elaine having powers (like we at least have been told she does in canon) and thus where his own come from, even if by this point in the family lineage they’re not exactly like a Blue Lanterns and have their own distinct aspects as well.
And then Damian is there in time to take over as Robin after Tim and Duke, and he’s still Robin by the end of the series, so I don’t have anything firm for his later mantle.
ANYWAY, those are the names, if you want some excerpts from the series, included below are:
1) Snippet from the outline of the as-yet-unwritten story where Duke and Tim join the Batfam, which is basically kinda like my usual not!fic manner of writing, where its a bunch of scene snippets and dialogue that aren’t meant to be the final story or even likely to be in the final story, but rather serve as a placeholder for me to preserve my ‘feel’ of what I want a scene or dialogue or interaction to be like when it first pops into my head and I want to be able to recall it when I get around to actually wriitng it.
DUKE AND TIM (AND ALSO DICK AND JASON AND CASS BEING SIBLINGS WHO ARE WEIRD)
So they run into trouble eventually and then when running from trouble they run into each other and they’re like….huh. Awkward. And then they decide well, might as well both run from trouble in the same direction, I guess. So they do.
“Did you have a plan for dealing with these guys?” Tim yelled at Duke. The other boy looked back over his shoulder briefly and gave what would probably have been a half-shrug if he didn’t awkwardly try to barrel-roll over a car two seconds later.
“Umm, sorta?”
“How sorta are we talking about? Maybe the two of us together could fill in the gaps in the plan and come up with one full plan?”
“Uh yeah, no, its not that kinda sorta. I meant sorta in the sense that I thought I had a plan but it didn’t work and that’s why these guys are after me. Sooooo…”
“Not helpful, basically.”
“Yeah. Pretty much. And hey, I don’t hear you offering up a plan! Did you even have one at all?”
“Uh….I mean I kinda didn’t think I was likely going to need one because I sorta figured some kid running around in a mask basically making a nuisance of himself was the sorta thing that was bound to attract Batman and I was just pretty much running around until that happened, and then I’d make a case for how I obviously need training and Gotham needs Robin and if its not me its likely to be someone else trying eventually anywayso why not be me?”
“That’s a terrible plan.”
“I know, that’s why I never said it was a plan! It was mostly….more…idea-ish.”
“I’m just saying, I thought *I* was doing this wrong, but at least I had a plan! I mean yeah, it might have ended up with me accidentally busting in on what I thought was a bunch of Riddler’s henchmen setting up some kind of clue thing, only it was actually a bunch of Intergang type guys with alien space guns or some shit all dressed up as Riddler henchmen for some reason? Idk what they were trying to do honestly, but so yeah I might have ended up running away on foot from like twenty of them and some kind of hovercycle -”
“I’m going to cut you off there and say wherever this is going its probably not the superior vantage point I think you think you have.”
(Something like that.)
Meanwhile, Batman was not going to be coming because he’s off on a JLA mission. However, in his absence Dick and Jason are in town filling in, and they finished taking out the bad guys several blocks back and caught up to whomever was running from them, figured out the situation and are currently sitting on the edge of a rooftop watching them realize they’re totally lost and trying to figure out where to go from here. Mostly because Dick and Jason are incredibly amused listening to their back and forth and also just…this whole situation.
Dick justifies not piping up to let them know they’re safe now by saying this is good intel gathering so we can offer Bruce our assessment as to whether they’re gonna try and keep doing this whether we train them or not, and also how they handle this whole being lost situation. Not knowing they don’t have to run anymore isn’t going to hurt them and really, this is a good field exercise almost.
Jason justifies not piping up by saying this is fucking hilarious and I will hurt you if you end this any sooner than we have to, I deserve this, I had a rough week.
Which is right around the time that Cass pipes up from where she’s been lurking unnoticed behind them this whole time: “Oh no. Was it Tom? Or Ray? Or was it Todd?”
And she does it right in Jason’s ear so he kinda aborted-shrieks and almost falls off the roof except Cass is ready for that and grabs his arm to steady him.
“I hate when you do that!” Jason growls in an attempt to cover up how badly she got him and also because he hates when she does it which is why she does it a lot. Again, they don’t hate each other at all, but they do seem to act like it a lot, and neither of them is entirely sure why. They kinda just started doing it and have each been trying to get the other back ever since and ended up locked in an unending spiral of gotcha-gotchaback, except, y’know, Batfam style.
Dick occasionally picks sides just to muddy the waters. And then he randomly switches sides without warning, so neither of them ever wants to risk getting too peeved at him even when he’s helping the other, because that might push him fully over to the other side and leave them permanently outnumbered, so they’re kinda stuck, which is exactly as he likes it, lol.
“Why are you Satan,” Jason hisses dramatically as he gets up and stomps over to the other side of the roof to sulk, lest she almost knock him off again. Its not the almost falling part that bothers him, its that she’s the one that snatches him to safety each time. She’s like a freaking cat toying with a - yeah not going there, just blaming Selina. Knew them hanging out was going to be bad news for me SOMEHOW, he gripes.
Cass just shrugs and smoothly sits down cross-legged right where she is, grinning Cheshire-cat style at him from there. “Childhood trauma,” is her answer.
Except: “Great, and now you’re stealing my comeback on top of it?! Is nothing sacred to you?”
Another shrug. “Haven’t decided yet. Babs is still helping me explore my options. We’re going alphabetically and we’re only on  the E-religions.”
“God, you’re the worst. I can’t believe you ruined sisters for me.”
“You already used that same line last week when you came out of your room still half-asleep and she was just sitting directly across from your door waiting and staring unblinking and you yelped and dropped your laptop on your toe, and then cursed so loud that B came running around the hall thinking we were being invaded,” Dick reported idly, still perched in the same position he’d been in all along, and still watching the boys below them. “Just in case you thought no one noticed when you recycle.”
“I noticed too,” Cass added solemnly.
“I have no siblings,” Jason intoned. He threw up his hands dramatically and then loudly jumped down to the street below with a little help from the fire escape. It drew both Duke and Tim’s attention and they startled before realizing it was Flamebird. And that he’d landed on the street and was stalking past them while barely acknowledging them. And that that was Nightwing standing on the roof now with his hands on his hips yelling after him.
“Oh, reeeeeeal subtle. You’re not having fun anymore so you gotta make sure nobody else does either. Wow, the Brat-like behavior, just JUMPED out of the shadows with that one!”
And that was Flamebird not even turning around and just yelling back. “I HAVE NO SIBLINGS!”
And also they were both pretty sure that was Batgirl crouched on the roof next to Nightwing now, and she was…..sticking her tongue out at Flamebird’s back? No, Batgirl very much definitely was sticking out her tongue, that wasn’t in doubt, it was more just….very unexpected to see.
What was happening right now?
CUT TO:
Eventually Tim and Duke have inevitably worn down his resistance to training them by insisting they’re gonna keep doing this and if its not them its gonna be someone sooner or later anyway, because you guys may not know this but Gotham’s gotten used to Robins by now and it freaks people out not to see one and Robin’s as important as Batman really and there needs to be a Robin and its not just us that will think so like look at the fact that already two of us had the exact same idea, huh? And also, we’re gonna keep doing it anyway, sooooo….there’s that.
And then Cass vouches that they’re both 100% serious about that. 
And then Dick vouches that as a former determined daredevil kid that was absolutely going to keep doing the same thing no matter whether you’d helped me or not, B, I also am of the assessment that these two mean it all the way. 
And not to be left out and just to have something to contribute but also grumpy because his brother and sister are picking on him and he’s eighteen going on ten, Jason throws in: “And my assessment is that they both definitely seem dumb enough to keep doing this without help anyway and they definitely need help or they definitely will die, I’d give it a month, month and a half tops.”
And then Bruce dryly thanks his children for their contributions, their keen insights in this matter have been absolutely invaluable, he has no idea how he would make a decision here without it.
“Oooh, a rare sighting of Bat-snark in the wild. Someone call Nat-Geo quick, maybe he’ll do it again,” Dick says.
Bruce sighs. Duke and Tim look like they’re trying to decide if they’re allowed to be amused or if that’s also part of some weird Bat-test that they’re probably taking without even knowing it.
So Tim and Duke move in, start training together, and then also get sent to school together and it takes a month or so of settling in before they decide whether or not they actually are happy about this. There’s a period of deciding they’re supposed to be bitter rivals who snipe at each other back and forth across the dining table at every available opportunity, but that changes the first night Dick and Jason come back from the Tower since Tim and Duke have moved in and where Cass is also home instead of at the Clocktower with Babs. 
Since all three of the older Batkids, upon seeing Tim and Duke squabble at dinner, decide to obnoxiously coo about how adorable it is watching the kids play. Which pretty instantly cements Duke and Tim as realizing their best chance of surviving the sudden acquisition of three older superhero ninja foster siblings who all can be as obnoxious as they are dangerous but also as much as they are - Duke and Tim are convinced - all quite insane.
A belief further cemented the next morning, with all three of them having spent the night at the Manor as well. Treating Duke and Tim to their first Saturday morning episode of the Cass and Jason show. 
In this episode, Jason emerged from his bedroom in his pajamas still but warily peeking his head out first to look both ways down the hall before deciding it was clear…..and then makes it just almost to the end of the hallway leading to the stairs, when Cass drops down from where she’d been waiting perched above the other side of the door, in such a way as to suddenly fill the doorway just in front of him, hanging upside down suspending herself just with her feet wedged above the doorway, all while keeping her hands crossed her chest, a dead-eyed expression on her face, and with her tongue hanging out like she’s some kind of vampire hanging upside down in mid-slumber.
Jason shrieked and stumbled back a foot before catching himself and shoving two fingers in a cross shape in her direction. 
“Demon! DEMON! Goddammit, I abjure thee, that’s supposed to fucking do something about having a demon sister, now what the fuck does it take to banish you!?”
“Can’t be banished,” Cass informed him, still upside down. “Can be bought though.”
Jason halted. “What?”
“I’m really surprised you never figured it out,” Dick said from his room further down the hallway. He was leaning against the doorjamb, arms casually crossed. 
“Why did you think she never goes after me?”
Jason swiveled back and forth between his siblings suspiciously, trying to scry both their inscrutable (and in Cass’ case, still upside down) faces for signs they were telling the truth. “You’re telling me that Little Miss Monstrous has been a pain in my ass from day one and the reason she’s never so much as eked a single boo in your direction is you’ve been bribing her all this time?”
Dick shrugged. “Its all about getting in on the ground floor.”
Jason squinted, still unconvinced. “Nuh-uh. No way. You’re just fucking with me. Like if this is for real, what have you been buying her off with?”
Dick smiled beatifically. “Cuddles and hugs.”
“NO! NO! Bullshit! I am NOT falling for this crap again, you are not gonna get me this way this time. I call BS, fuck you, nuh uh, you’re lying out your ass and your ass-face.”
“Wait, what is this this I did before? What are you talking about?”
“You know damn well what I’m talking about.”
“Is this about the Care Bear you had when you were fifteen?”
“Shut upppppppppppppppp, I didn’t have a Care Bear then, you’re such a - “
“Oh, I dunno, I’m pretty sure there’s some holiday photos from that year that would say otherwise, pretty definitively in the form of you and your Care Bear….”
“That I only had because you literally just gave it to me as a present solely so that you could claim that I had a Care Bear when I was fifteen, you douchebag!”
“Just because I gave you the Care Bear didn’t mean you had to keep the Care Bear and hold the Care Bear and love the Care Bear, Jay. You chose to do all that.”
“I only kept the damn thing because you’re an asshole who lied about it being a family heirloom so I felt like I had to or I’d be a total jerk. Is nothing sacred to you?”
“I didn’t lie! It is a treasured family heirloom! Its the first Care Bear I gave to my little brother to teach him the important and valuable lesson that Care Bears - say it with me now - “
“Finish that sentence and they will never find your body.”
“CARE!” Cass shrieked from behind him before jumping on Jason’s back and bearing him down to the floor in an undignified tangle as she splayed atop him like a starfish and he stared up at the ceiling in a kind of strangled frozen fury, like there was so much emotion he wanted to process he’d overheated and now was stuck like that until he cooled down.
That was when Dick leaned over him and solemnly added one final thought, as though it was a crucial addition of the gravest importance:: “A lot.”
Jason’s eye twitched. 
Dick’s eyes went wide in response. “Uh oh. He went to the Danger Zone. Run Cass. We’ve unleashed the dogs of war!”
Cass was off and on her feet in a second, taking off down the hall like a rocket. “Not the dogs of war!” She yelled.
Dick was only seconds behind her when behind him, Jason rose like an eruption, growling wordlessly and sparks practically flashing from his suddenly flinty eyes. He charged after them like an enraged bull.
“Kenny Loggins wouldn’t want this!” Dick yelled over his shoulder as he rounded the doorway and vanished. Jason rounded it in hot pursuit.
“Poison Ivy won’t even be able to make compost from what’s left of you when I’m through!”
The yelling and running vanished into the distance. Duke and Tim finally looked at each other blankly.
“What?” Tim asked. Duke shrugged helplessly.
A door opened at the end of the hallway. Bruce stuck his head out. “Is it safe?”
Tim just stared at him.
“What?” Duke asked.
*****
2) Excerpt from the first installment, “Teachable Moments,” part of a story Dick retells as he remembers his grandfather and later his father telling it to him. 
Further context for this:
In my Grayson family backstory headcanons, Daniel has a lifelong strange fascination with names, that grew out of his personal unsolved mystery of where he came from. The only thing he ever knew was that he was left at the circus in a blanket with Daniel embroidered on it, and was taken into be raised there, and by the time he was old enough to ask questions about himself, he knew everyone at the circus had known him to be called Daniel Grayson since they first met him as a baby…..but what he could never find an answer for was who decided to name him that and why. Per canon, we saw his father William Cobb hand him to Haly’s grandfather to be raised, and he told Haly’s grandfather to call him Grayson. 
So I expanded on this and so in the context of this series, Daniel of course eventually wondered where Grayson came from if no one knew where he was from, and Haly’s grandfather claimed he didn’t name him that, and refused to elaborate further…..which left Daniel with the fact that he was left at the circus and introduced to the others there as baby Daniel Grayson by Haly’s grandfather, who then later denied to Daniel being the one to pick the name and give it to him, but also denied any knowledge of where he came from.
So Daniel always knew he had to be lying about ONE of those two things, with the lie most likely being the second thing….but he could never get him to admit it, or prove it, and that kinda always haunted him in a way. And so, his fixation with names grew out of never knowing where his came from or how he came to have it, and this line from something he said once kinda sums up his obsession with it:
He’d joke about how it was itchy, like it never felt like it fit him right, and Grandma would fondly scoff and say he just thought it was too boring and plain. But Grandpa being Grandpa, he’d just take that and spin it into an agreement, further evidence he was right.
“Grayson is what you’d name a man you thought should go unnoticed and be overlooked, he’d say. “And I am not that man.”
Because that was his real problem, the thing he could never shake….he didn’t care about the name itself, because as the below excerpt touches on, he found a way to make his name work for him, to feel like it did fit him and was part of who he was by choice, by intention. He defined his name, rather than let his name define him. Its the reason the Grayson family colors, as originally worn by him, are the brightest hues he could fit together, a deliberate attempt to make him, and by extension his family’s future generations….the exact OPPOSITE of what their name denoted. He didn’t mind being a Grayson, or regret it, AFTER he took ownership of his identity despite his lack of answers and seized it, put his own mark on it, made it his….because no matter the intention of whomever gave him that name, he didn’t have to be defined by it the way they meant him to.
BUT, the fact remained that even after making his own peace with his name and claiming it as his own, definitively, regardless of any one else’s view of it….he could never shake the feeling that given the vague circumstances of his arrival at the circus and mysteriousness of where he came from, that his name “Grayson” wasn’t just random choice and didn’t just get picked out of nowhere by someone, nor did he think it was actually his family name before him, given that everything else about his origins suggested an attempt to shroud where he came from, making it unlikely that they did all that just to have him still grow up with his actual family name. So from a pretty young age, he always had this feeling that the name Grayson was PICKED to be given to him, specifically, and that this was done with a reason, it was MEANT as something…..and gut feeling due to everything combined, was the quote above. He always believed someone named him that because he was meant to be unseen, unnoticed, slip through the cracks without anyone ever paying attention…..
And its not his name itself Daniel took issue with, it was someone thinking they could just DECIDE he and his life were meant to be lived unnoticed, nothing but gray. And so his whole life he kinda devoted it to defying that idea, even if he never knew for sure, and he basically pursued the spotlight to do the complete opposite of that. He trained to be an acrobat, sought out teachers on his own, so that he’d have a way to stand out rather than just help various acts backstage, and in time he became Daniel Grayson, the King of the Sky, Haly’s star solo act until he married and he and his wife became the Flying Graysons, and then John and Mary and finally Dick as well.
EXCERPT FROM “TEACHABLE MOMENTS:”
“But there is no King of the Sky, Dickie,” he’d said to me then with a wink. “That’s the joke, you see? No one can claim the sky as theirs, no one can own it. Send your armies to claim it in your name and all you’d see is legions of empty-handed fools all grasping at air! There’s no way to draw your borders, no foundation on which you could build any walls. And where would you even put your throne?”
“He’d laughed then, mischievous and wheezing, as he recalled all the courts the circus had entertained back in its glory days, when Europe’s nobility would always each host some circus or troupe or performers at various festivals. All the kings and queens for whom he’d performed his signature feats, who’d show him off to their most important guests afterwards. The ones who had been invited specifically so they’d see that this court held only the grandest of celebrations, that they and their guests were entertained by only the very best of the best. 
“Oh, but they were always so eager to introduce me by title,” he’d said, rheumy eyes still somehow keeping their sparkle. “There they were, kings and crown princes, pushing me forward and telling their guests to come greet me, this commoner they were all too glad to proclaim royalty no different to them. After all, any king can present his guests with an entertaining spectacle, but how much grander is the king who hosts the spectacle of being entertained by another king? Ah, but they were always more than happy to elevate me if but for the night…in doing so, they elevated themselves as well. Up we all went, all without feet ever leaving the floor!”
“Names can be such a funny thing, don’t you think?” He’d sort of mused that, stroking his chin like he was pondering some great mystery. “Meaning nothing and everything all at the same time. That’s a powerful trick. Useful too, if you can master it.” 
I know I started giggling then, just because as far back as I can remember, names were always kind of a…almost a passion of his, I guess you could say. It was just this thing he did, it was like he could never just let a name be. There was always some trick to a name, he’d insist. You just had to find it. Its why our family colors were red, yellow and green, as a matter of fact. All in only the brightest hues of each, combining to make us the complete opposite of the Gray in our name. 
‘The crowd comes in to see the acrobat named Grayson, what do they expect from just the name? Drab, unremarkable, likely to be lost in the shadows, from just the sound of him. But then he dives off the platform in a burst of colors impossible to miss and the crowd gasps, expectations shattered in an instant….and from there, they think, what more surprises might possibly await? And already you have them at the edge of their seat, eyes caught by the colors of a costume its impossible to lose sight of. You command their attention, you’re unencumbered by their assumptions, and they’re yours from that moment on….and all of that from just a pop of color, a warning that you are not what they thought….and a name. A Flying Grayson, up above as expected, yet unexpectedly the brightest thing in the sky. An inherent contradiction. An impossible sight you can’t help but to see.’
“Anyway, so there I was,” Dick said, straightening up and shaking his head with a slightly rueful smile, as if to physically pull himself out of the undertow of memories tugging him further away from where he’d begun. “Already giggling just from his little chin-stroking act as he started talking about names, because I knew he was bound to say something silly next, just from that. And he’d jumped a little, and turned in his armchair to face me directly and with his full focus, because Grandpa thrived off of an engaged audience like nothing else. 
“Yes, a powerful thing, a name,” he’d continued after a moment that was either a dramatic pause or me thinking anything longer than ten seconds might as well be the same as an hour, at that age. “But a tricky business, naming things, as you first have to know what a thing is, before you attempt to claim it by naming it what it is not. And being named can just as easily be a powerful trap, of course. If a man doesn’t know himself well enough to know he is not what a name claims, he can wind up stuck in a cage that’s not sized to fit him. Simply because he doesn’t know he has more than enough room to slip free of it if he tried.”
“Then he leaned down close enough to me to whisper, and looked around as if checking we were alone before dropping into a raspy whisper like we were conspiring. “But a man who knows what he wants and knows what he’s capable of, and can put the right name to both….that’s where the real magic is. Do you know what kind of power your name has?”
“Richard means lion-hearted,” I remember reporting after some thought. And that he blew a raspberry right after that like he was the five year old of the two of us, but then, Grandpa was just like that sometimes. “Yes, yes, true enough,” he said, making a face like he’d tasted something sour, “But I don’t mean the one your father picked most likely to spite me for naming him John in the first place. No matter how many times I tell him I had nothing to do with that, I lost the right to name him in a card game with your Grandmother. Although for the record, I still maintain I didn’t lose, she just cheated. But I still have no idea how she did it so I have to respect that, I suppose. But no. Not that name. The one your mother gave you.”
“And of course then I knew he meant Robin, and said so, and he asked what that meant to me. And I remember thinking long and hard about that one, because as I said, I knew even by that age what Grandpa was like on the subject of names, and so I was sure there was some kind of riddle or game in what he was asking, I just wasn’t sure where. So finally I just referred back to what my Mom always used to say, about me being born on the first day of spring, and being her little Robin. And he just nodded, and then he asked: And do you remember the first time you called yourself Robin to someone else, and why? What you said then?”
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But its mostly by the third installment of this series that things start simmering on the long-term Court of Owls storyline throughout this, which is where all the stuff with the Grayson backstory comes into play.
Because in finding out about Cobb and the Court of Owls and their connection to his family and intentions for him, and fighting all that and dealing with the implications, the thing is….in the process Dick of course ends up finding all the answers that his grandfather spent his whole life searching for.
So its about how the Court of Owls and Cobb’s actions and plans have affected Dick’s whole family through three whole generations, now that Dick is its endgame and he can see the full picture……which among other things, allows Dick a kind of closure for a lot of stuff with his first family. He’s finally able to solve the mystery Daniel was haunted by, and gain a big sense of validation from it, because in doing so he affirms that he and his family line aren’t really defined by their connection to Cobb, or even really the result of Cobb and his actions.
Because knowing Cobb’s intentions, knowing that HE named the Grayson family line and what it was supposed to mean….even though Daniel never got his answers while he was alive, Dick’s able to put all of that to rest in a lot of ways by realizing that his grandfather might not have ever gotten the specifics…..but he still got it right. Dick can now affirm that his grandfather guessed right as to what the person who named him Grayson meant for it to mean, meant for him to be. But Dick knows now too, that without even knowing that for sure, his grandfather managed to do all the right things in exactly the right ways to defy those intentions and spit in the face of what he was ‘supposed’ to be or do. As did John then, as well, and now as did Dick. 
And so Dick can say with full certainty that no matter where his family comes from originally, the Grayson name was never defined by what the Court interpreted it as….but as the Graysons defined it for themselves. They are what they made themselves to be, and Dick can see himself in that, his choices reflected in the ones his father and grandfather made before him, all without knowing just what exactly it was they were defying or anything like that….they did all that naturally, just by virtue of being who they were themselves, who they chose to be. And that ultimately, is what the name Grayson means to Dick….the same thing it always meant to his father, and what it always meant to his grandfather at the very beginning of their TRUE family line, the only one THEY actually claim NAME to.
The true history of Dick’s family, his first family, the true legacy of The Flying Graysons, the Kings of the Sky, is an entire century of every last one of them going “FUCK YOU, WE DO WHAT WE WANT” to ‘their ancestor’ William Cobb and the entire Court of Owls, every day of their lives.
3) UNEDITED SNIPPET, from the (as of now) eighth installment, “Its a Long, Long Way to Tipperary,” from a scene after Dick has found out everything there is to find out about Cobb and the Court’s history and how it involves his family. This is Dick talking to Jason and Cass, relaying one of his last memories with Daniel. Not edited, needs chopping, but general sentiment/idea is mostly finalized:
“Names have power,” Grandpa said to me, on one of the last days I remember with him before he passed away. We were sitting outside in folding chairs and watching the stars, until he got too cold and we had to go in. But while we were out there, so much of what he said…I didn’t really understand most of it at the time. Honestly, even what I thought I understood, I realized years later wasn’t really right. I could follow the words but so much of what he meant, I didn’t even begin to understand until I happened to look back to that night years later. 
Because even though I was mostly lost then and there, for months by then I’d heard my parents talking when they thought I couldn’t hear. I’d seen him doubled over coughing more and more frequently, how tightly he clutched a blanket around him when it wasn’t really all that cold. I may not have fully known what was coming but I knew on some level that something was coming to an end.
And I remember him talking so fast that night, words spilling out so quickly in a confusing mess like he couldn’t take the time to shape them properly and just had to get them out….I remember soaking it all in, as much as I could, knowing that it was important even if I didn’t know what it even was, or why. Like I was trying to just….absorb it, make it a part of me the way it almost felt like it was bleeding out of him. I don’t know that the thought, the image of him dying that summer, of soon being without him, I can’t say whether that actually ever occurred to me. I just know that I knew urgency, and I knew Grandpa was only urgent when it mattered, so I listened without understanding and somehow managed to store most of it away.
I could be crediting myself with too much intuition and I was just lucky, but….I don’t know why this so hard to describe. I don’t know why I’m trying to describe it, why that feels important, I just know that it does and it did. He wasn’t talking to me the way he normally did, when he’d always stop and make sure I was actually following him, asking me questions to make sure I understood what he was trying to say…..maybe that was what made the difference. Because it wasn’t just that he was talking fast, but without pausing, that’s what was the strange part. Not trying to make sure he was understood, or even caring….just trying to get it out of him, like what was most important was just that he said it and it was heard. Maybe just so he knew it wouldn’t die with him.
So I remember it all, or at least most of it, enough of it. I’d honestly gone years without even thinking of that night before I did remember it and finally try to think back to what he’d said and see if I could recall any of it, make any more sense of it now than then. And maybe that’s what baffles me. How I could have found all of it tucked away in the back of my mind somewhere when I’d forgotten I even put it there at all. It feels….it never made sense to me. That I remembered. I shouldn’t have been able to, not in so much detail, after so much time, not when there were so many other things I couldn’t even place. And yet there it all was, and right when I most needed to hear what he’d said to me that night. The things nobody else could have told me because nobody else knew the secret language of names that he seemed to speak, that he’d spent his whole life learning all so that maybe he could somehow in that find his own name.
“Names have power,” he said. “They can be magic in the right hands. A man who knows who he is knows his own name. And the things you can do with, the doors that can be unlocked…oh, Dickie, my boy. There’s a door to anywhere if you can speak the right name when asked for a key. But its not enough to just say them and throw them around, its not the sounds, the words, its what they are. You can’t pretend to know a thing, to know yourself. You have to really, truly know. But once you know….for a boy as bright as you, there’s no end to the possibilities.” 
“So here’s what you must always remember, the real trick of it all…..names have power. But the power isn’t in the name. The power is in what you decide it should be. You can’t claim a name and therein take its power, you see….because you have to be the one to put power in the name first. You have to look at it and see what you want it to be. And only then claim and make it yours, and everything that comes with it. Your father named you Richard, though he calls you Dickie, you were born a Flying Grayson and thus you always will be, and your mother named you her little Robin, born on the first day of spring. And all of these can be you, because no one is just one thing. And yet none of them are you unless you claim them to be. 
So if you are to be Robin, as your mother named you but is only you if you choose to say yes that is me…..before you claim it fully, before you truly make it yours, you have to look at Robin and what it will be when you choose to be Robin. You have to see Robin not as even your mother sees her Robin, but as you see your Robin. 
That’s the danger and that’s the trick.
You can’t claim Robin while seeing only what someone else sees, and think that by claiming it you’ve claimed its power….instead you’ve just claimed a trap, donned a self that doesn’t suit you because it is not you, only something someone else thought could be you. 
And by accepting that Robin, claiming that name and everything that comes with it….you will never be free to be more than whatever they thought you could be. There is no power in that, no potential, no freedom…..just the limitations you’ve accepted as your own, because someone thought you limited by such things, and yet you agreed that they were right when you claimed the name….but only the name as they shaped and imagined it to be, instead of you on your own.
So who is Robin? What power do you see in that name? Don’t reach out and seize it the moment someone sets it forth in front of you, assuming that is all it can be, when the truth is you will only ever then be as big or small as they imagine, and yet you can just as easily be as vast as you can dream. 
Never claim a name if you haven’t first looked at it as you first see it, and then imagine it bigger, and then imagine it deeper, and then imagine it greater, and keep going until you can’t imagine any more. And only then will you know what that name is…..when you say this name is who I truly want to be.
Robin is a bird, yes, Robin Red-Breast, a creature of spring, of the air, of new life. You can claim that and make it yours but first…..what else could Robin be?
Can not Robin just as easily be Robin Hood or Robin Goodfellow? Couldn’t you be? And why even be just one, when you can be all three? 
No man is ever just one thing, and any man who thinks that he is has more dreaming to do. Or else he’s already trapped by a name of someone else’s making, and all the confines that came with it.
Your mother named you her little bird, and maybe it fits you because you were born to fly, or maybe you were born to be Robin, and you simply chose to fly. Who can say? Who can say which Robin is the most you, other than you?
So be Robin, in as much as you imagine Robin to be. Be the bird that flies, or the champion of the poor, or the merry trickster whom even kings fear. Or be all of them in one….there’s power enough for all of that in just that one little name….so long as you put it there first.
Its that simple, and its that tricky. There is no in between. You are whatever name you claim as you. But you must know what it is as well, because it isn’t enough just to know yourself as you are…..when the name’s the thing, that which says who you WOULD be, the you that you WANT to be, that you claim THIS, this is me.
If you remember nothing else, Dickie, Richard, Robin times three or however many more Robins you might be…..
If someday you say I taught you nothing else, there’s nothing else I gave you, left for you to take with you wherever you go, hear me now, and remember this, even if only this:
No matter how well you might think it suits you at first, the name you claim because it fits you as you are, will never be more than a trap.
The power in names, the true power…..only comes from claiming the name that fits the you, that you would dream yourself to be.
Many kings of the earth have laughed as they introduced your family as Kings of the Sky throughout the years, but the jest they don’t get is for all their riches, they were the ones content to claim titles and riches that leave them trapped on the earth, confined within borders of their own makings, sealed behind walls they chose to erect between them and everything that was not theirs and thus would never be. But a King of the Sky soars above all of that, needing none of that…..because the sky has no end, and is so much vaster than any of that could ever be. 
If you would someday choose a crown, my little Prince of the Sky, never seek yours on the ground. Reach for one bigger than the ground could ever hold….only that could ever fit all that you might someday be.
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Why do you keep shit talking about Bellarke antis? No one has to like the ship. Showrunner himself says it's a non romantic relationship and it's open for interpretation until they canonically stick to it. So why does it bother you when people call Bellarke platonic and it's not canon? When..It's not canon. There's nothing wrong with saying Bellarke is platonic. The showrunner himself and Eliza said it countless times but I see you ignoring it? Why? Jason said non romantic. Eliza said platonic.
Why do I keep shit talking them?
Because they’re assholes. You know they’re assholes. People attacking others and sending nasty anons and commenting so rudely on someone’s tweets? Those are assholes. 
If people are upset by me calling people who take part in asshole behavior actual assholes, that’s their problem, and they should stop being assholes. Then I’ll stop calling them assholes.
If someone doesn’t believe in Bellarke anymore? I dont’ think that makes them assholes. If they start to preach the gospel of Bellarke being dead, that’s kind of an asshole move. You know the term “ship and let ship?” Blorke antis are looking to blow up the ship and drown anyone who still loves the ship. 
It doesn’t BOTHER me when ex-bellarke fans say Bellarke is not happening, it disappoints me. I am SORRY that the people I used to enjoy this show with can’t see what I see, can’t see the bellarke of it all. I don’t really understand how they are MISSING the romance story on screen which clearly indicates that Bellarke is not dead but is actively happening.
And I don’t particularly like when I get anons who think all antis ever have a right to their bad opinions, but I don’t have a right to mine. I don’t comment on anyone’s tweets. I don’t hijack anyone’s posts. I don’t argue with anyone in their comments. I don’t send asks about anyone else’s shipping, anti or otherwise. And i certainly don’t send anons calling someone names like has happened to me. 
Not shipping something is fine. Not believing the canon is fine too, I guess. I think it’s stupid. But if people want believe gossip without evidence except for the reputation of a person who has had a lot of really serious misinterpretations of canon, and has been TOLD so by people she then calls bad writers, when she was the one who failed to understand? I think that makes them suckers.
You call what I say, my CRITIQUE of fandom to be shit talking. ButI analyze fandom culture the same way I analyze canon.  What people say, the patterns of behavior, the posts and comments, these are all the text that I am making sense of. The facts. 
I find it really interesting that fandom thinks they are free to make judgments on everyone else, especially the canon, the characters, but also JR, the actors, and any fandom member who doesn’t believe what they believe, but once the criticism is turned on their OWN behavior and posts and comments, all of a sudden it’s unfair. 
If y’all can’t take the shittalking then y’all should STOP shittalking. 
If it’s ok for you to critique people you don’t know. Then it’s okay for them to critique you.
If you want me to side with fandom over JR, I can’t do it, because I see fandom being bullies. And it’s not like you are not aware that internet bullying is a problem... y’all just think somehow that if YOU do it, they deserve it. That you are righteous and you’re not *harassing* them, no, it’s a valid criticism because they didn’t give you the fucking ship you wanted in the exact way you wanted it and now you’ve been hurt.
Fandom is a mess.
And fandom will continue to be a mess until they decide to spend more time questioning their OWN behavior than they do questioning the showrunner’s or other fans.
And before you say I need to question my behavior, I have questioned my behavior since I came to fandom, and I have changed my behavior accordingly, from when I was perfectly open and accepting and willing to debate and engage with everybody, to now, where I’ve cut myself off from all types of communications, all sorts of people, and many types of media. 
What you see now is a pissed off fan, whose been on the ugly side of this internet harassment and is telling you now. It doesn’t matter HOW wrong you think someone’s position, presence, or words are, if you harass them, tell them they’re wrong, invade their social media, send people after them, attack them, send nasty anons, spread lies and misinformation about them, and try to make other people hate them too, then you’re a bully. Fix you.
Y’all need to watch YOUR OWN behavior and stop blaming other people for the shit you do.  Because it’s not good. You are deluding yourself if you think it is. You’re sending me an anon into my inbox AND challenging my ship. Because you are UNABLE to be respectful. I don’t know who you are. But I can see you’re one of the people I talk about in general. 
PS: as usual, I don’t take word of god or actor commentary as part of canon. i analyze CANON. you know. the show. That some of us are watching and the rest of us are whining about because it doesn’t fit our fanon, so therefore is wrongWrongWRONG. 
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Hey People!
     It’s been such a long time since I’ve posted anything. But can you guys blame me? It’s been such a snore fest in Santa Monica, I almost just left you guys to you own devices to let you find out all the dirt by yourselves. But we couldn’t have that, can we?
     Anyways, while I don’t have a complete recap of the things going on (not that theirs anything interesting), you guys have sent me your BURNING CHLAMYDIA-LIKE questions that have piqued by interests. 
I would say things in this town are getting set in motion, but only time will tell…
But before we get into the questions, two things: 
1.) Everyone take a moment to say Happy Mother’s Day to QUEEN Phobe! Hopefully she’s been picking up her child from daycare. Am I right, guys? 
Hopefully you guys said HMD to your Mo -- Oh, Yikes ... um Moving on...
2.) Congratulations are in order! You guys voted and our Hottie of the Moment has been chosen…
     It’s none other than: Jason “Daddy” Sorrentino! With his ripped bod, and killer smile, Daddy Sorrentino has captured the hearts of Santa Monica one day at a time. I didn’t vote for him (I was torn between him and Daddy Lancaster, so I sat this one out), but it’s really no surprise. I mean, have you seen him? Ugh, soy hott. 
When asked about his Award Winning Hotness, Daddy had this to say:
“Everyone wanted to know what I’d do if I didn’t win, guess we’ll never know” (Jason Sorrentino, 2019).
... We love original quotes ..... Anyways! Let’s A some Q’s, yeah?
Q: singordie94 asked...
What is the Lipton on Myles Bennett and Julian Stark? The people are talking about seeing them at a bar eye fucking each other? What’s going on, DP? 
A: Hey singordie94,
     Sighhh, Shark Boy and Lava Top. Ok, so as we know, Myles gets pegged. Very progressive, love that for him. Now, the RUMOR (keyword) is that he ditched the strap and tried out the real thing with one Julian Stark. This, allegedly, happened a few months back according to sources close to the subject(s). Sadly, I honestly don’t believe this, this just sounds like fan fiction. Myles has a loving girl friend back home in Texas. It is PREPOSTEROUS to think our little sea critter would be a LIAR. I mean, could you guys really imagine OUR Myles letting Julian go snorkeling in HIS (chocolate) sea? HANG TEN in his boygina? Go KOWABUNGA in that ass??? (Let’s be honest, if this actually happened, there is no way anyone would actually believe that Myles was on top, we’ve seen him in his sea-diving-catsuit-thing, and … momma’s thicc with it). Anyways, I guess I’ll keep an eye on them just in case. But Myles just isn’t the type to cheat/leave his southern belle crying into the butter she has to churn for supper in the middle of her Amish village. (I’m assuming everyone in Texas is Amish. Look, I don’t know what the fuck goes on there, and honestly? I don’t care). Bottom line (tehehehe) is that Myles has his true love, the deep blue sea, and CHRIST as his main priorities, nothing more. Thanks for the question, singordie94, I’ll keep an eye out for ZESTY activity, but don’t hold your breath (like Myles did when he deep throated Julian, ALLEGEDLY).
Q: AshersBabyMomma asked...
Can we get an Aldridge update?
A: Well, AshersBabyMomma (cute name btw),
Keeping up with the Aldridge’s has been pretty dull this season.
Alex is, naturally, chasing after Award Winning Hottie, Jason. Their tumultuous relationship is one I’ll have to keep an eye on. You would think they were together by the way they interact, one minute their woohoo-ing in the back of an Uber and the next they need space? Maybe they should just call it quits? And apparently Alex was seen getting cozy with Logan Lancaster. I’m told that there was some serious flirting going on???? I heard that Jason totally came up in conversation too, and Logan called him like, a pussy, or something? (Fighting Words!!!) Whatever he said the two laughed about it, as they continued vibing. And to be honest? I kind of ship it. I mean I am obviously the president of the SorrentinHOEs, but ya girl Alex needs some stability. And hello??? Logan is as stable as they come! Daddy Sorrentino might be perfect at everything else, but maybe he should sit on the bench when it comes to Alex, Logan is scoring too high for him to keep up. #LoLex
Crackhead Asher is one that keeps getting written in about, though. A little bird told me, well, several little birds have told me that they’ve seen a guy (with a striking resemblance to our fav) out with several different guys since he’s been here in Santa Monica. I feel like Asher is a little fruity but is this something he would keep from his family? His twin? I feel like they would care less about this and more about his trips to San Diego to buy METH. The Quality Kind. Hmm, I suppose I’ll have to set up cameras inside his house, too, just to see if this story checks out. I’ll keep you posted.
The only Aldridge that matters is the MATRIARCH herself, Alegenda Aldridge. When she PUMPED IT into Santa Monica in kitten heels (because only SLUTS wear stilettos) I knew that she would be the saving grace of this DEMONIC town. We Stan Alegenda in this household, which is why If you use code SharkTop with your next purchase at Blush Boutique — The Anti-Fashionova, you’ll get 10% off, courtesy of The Daily Pier. Go on and immerse yourselves in the most sanctified of garmets, those floor length khaki skirts aren’t gonna wear themselves! Let’s hope that Alegenda does not fall into the EVIL clutches that have her siblings, and let’s hope that she can, instead, EXERCISE the DEMONS on her siblings KNEECAPS.
But honestly, who am I kidding. I enjoy her efforts, but in this town? She’ll probably be smoking the same crack rock as Asher by the end of the month. Tragic. I’ll keep you posted, AshersBabyMomma.
Q: dddonewiththebullshit asked...
I KNOW THAT JAMIE FUCKING CARTER READS THIS FUCKING BLOG AND I JUST WANT HIM TO FUCKING KNOW THAT I HAVE HAD IT UP TO MOTHER FUCKING HERE WITH HIS GOD DAMNED NOISE. HE IS THE MOST INCONSIDERATE NEIGHBOR EVER!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE TO DEAL WITH HIM CONSTANTLY WAKING UP MY PUPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!! BECAUSE HES CONSTANTLY BRINGING THE ENTIRETY OF SANTA MONICA BACK TO HIS PLACE TO BANG THE FUCK OUT OF THEM LOUD ENOUGH FOR THE ENITRE BLOCK TO HEAR, AND NOW I HAVE TO HEAR HIM FIGHTING WITH SOME TWINK!!!!!!!!!! ABOUT SOME FUCKING!!!!! PAINT!!!!!!! BRUSHES!!!!!!! HE DOESNT DESERVE RIGHTS, AND I WANT HIM DEAD. #ELECTRICCHAIR
A: I…. Hello?
     This is the only negative thing I’ve gotten about Jamie since I’ve started following him. If hoards of you thirst buckets aren’t writing in about want to “operate his ride” then you’re saying how he looks like a math teacher and you’d like to show him an acute angle (with your legs). Wait, is that last part just me? Yikes, this is awkward. Anyways, it’s true. Jamie and Mackenzie Westwood (the twink in question) dated for like 5 months, and when Mac ended things (because Jamie couldn’t commit) he packed his things and left. Apparently he forgot his paint brushes after his departure so he tried to BREAK INTO Jamie’s house and take them. And I guess they got into a fight. Based on the voice memos I got, it got pretty intense. Some people wrote in asking if Jamie got shot.
     Yeah he got shot … with love. The repressed feeling jumped out! This whole fight was laced with PASSION and I was waiting for them to rip each other’s clothes off and wake up your puppy (again). They TOTES still love each other. I mean hello??? Amazon Prime is right there and you choose to commit grand theft PAINTBRUSH on a random night, Mackenzie???? Give me a BREAK!
     I just hope that this doesn’t interfere with his work, and like, distract him while he’s operating a ride. Wouldn’t want him to ALSO cause a major accident which could kill people. #shade
I guess the final question I got a lot is what couple(s) I ship. And off the top of my head, my top 5 are ... Hmmm, I’ll have to say:
Well obvs, #LoLex
June Armstrong and an Exterminator. The Doll has roaches, and it’s fucking GROSS!!! Someone said she’s become acquainted with them and knows them by name. What a CREEP. Get an exterminator girl, know him by name. And while we’re on the topic of June, The Doll. I see right through her “innocent act”, I heard she hid a razor blade in her mouth in High School, and when she got into a fight one time, she SLICED her opponent. People who went to school with June contact me, and give me the scoop on this.
OLIVA AND DIANA ARE THE LESBIAN POWER COUPLE WE NEED!! I DONT NEED TO ELABORATE ON THIS, MAKE IT HAPPEN LADIES.
(and 5, I guess) And I am torn between Wes/Diana and Wes/Iris. You see, Diana and Wes have history and just thinking about them and all that they’ve been through, the fact that they can find solace through each other’s arms just …. sorry I need a moment. 
But Wes and Iris, it’s just … ugh … the flavors. Both of their pasts have been pretty hard, and I would love to see Iris in a happy relationship. Especially after that Sebastian guy (don’t ask).
So these are MY to watch list, lets hope something becomes of it! 
And with that, that concludes my comeback post, I guess. Hope you didn’t fall asleep reading this. And if you managed to to not be mentioned in this post, don’t you worry, this is only just the beginning. 
xo, DP
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1-50 of the writers ask thingy, tell me everything :D
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1 : What age-group do you write?adult! ive always written characters my age or a few years older
2 : What genre do you write?sff, mostly fantasy
3 : Do you outline according to big ideas or small details?hmmm, i guess small details? when i get an idea, i get an idea for single scenes or pieces of dialogue or a certain character, so i piece together an outline from that. but i have trouble with a overarching plot lol
4 : Which do you prefer–line-editing or plot-revisions?line-editing, i love editing. revisions suck bc it takes me 10,000 yrs to come up with an idea and now i have to replace it with another??? blasphemous
5 : Do you write better with or without deadlines?ive written my whole life without deadlines except for when i tried nano last year and failed. so without i guess, but then i dont have anything to convince me to write more lmao
6 : What would be the biggest compliment you could hope to receive on your current WIP?idk probably that its someones favourite book, or to see fanart *.*
7 : How long is your current WIP?26,305 words, its a rewrite heh
8 : What author would you be most excited to be compared to?hummmmmm,,,idk when people call new fantasy books “the next game of thrones” it sounds so fake lol but idk who my favourite author is...
9 : What do you struggle most with as a writer?writing
10 : Do you brain-storm story ideas alone or with others?mostly alone but YOU, ASH, help sometimes. its good to get an objective ear
11 : Do you base your characters off of real people?nah lol, im not good at characters
12 : Is your writing space clean or cluttered?clean
13 : Do you write character-driven or plot-driven stories?plot-driven. my writing is extremely fast paced, and i dont tend to like reading character-driven works
14 : Do you have a favorite writing-related quote?ive answered this in previous ask. the 'drunk on writing’ one by ray bradbury
15 : If you transport your original characters into another author’s world, which world would you choose?everyone else’s worlds are so harsh lol maybe id put them in atla so they can fuck around w bending
16 : Would your story work better as a movie or tv show? Why?miniseries ゚*。(・∀・)゚*。 but it would lend itself to a movie yeah
17 : Do you make soundtracks for each story?nah, lazy ass
18 : If you could assign your story one song, what would it be?unbecoming by starset
19 : Would you rather live in your characters’ world, or have your characters come live in our world?honestly? i wanna escape capitalism and wield a sword
20 : What book would you love to see adapted for the big or small screen?zero world by jason m hough!!!! its a pretty big book i think a movie duology or a tv show would work!
21 : Do you finish most of the stories you start?no
22 : Has your own writing ever made you cry?no lol 
23 : Are you proud or anxious to show off your writing?anxious cz im bad
24 : When did you start considering yourself a writer?i meannnnnnnn do i even now thoooooo
25 : What books are must-reads in your genre?sff is so broad, read whatever tf u want
26 : What would you like to see more of in your genre?diversity, not just in race gender sexuality but in fucking plots like damn give me something w a twist
27 : Where do you get inspiration from?real life, books, movies
28 : On a scale of 1-10, how much do you stress about choosing character names?about a 2, i just search on a generator until i find one i like im not a stickler for names nd i dont usually have placeholder names or anything
29 : Do you tend to underwrite or overwrite in a first draft?chronic underwriter hence the only 20k words
30 : Does writing calm you down or stress you out?calm me down, i have no control over my own life so its good to have complete control over my oc’s lives. i dont tend to have the ‘characters run away from me’ thing, but probably bc i dont see it like that lol
31 : What trope do you actually like?ride-or-die, charas who are knowledgeable and badass from the beginning, i hate following the character learning to do something lmao im impatient
32 : Do you give your side-characters extensive backstories?depends on the side character, every character is fleshed out to an extent but i dont do a massive family tree or anything
33 : Do you flesh-out characters before you write, or let their personalities develop over time?i tend to create characters before plot so i would say i know them pretty well before starting but i do let them develop naturally within the story without forcing them into any box
34 : Describe your old writing in one word.tryhard
35 : Is it more fun to write villains or heroes?mmm both have their merits, i went through a phase where i loved villains but a warped heroes journey or a morally grey/anti-hero can be super good too
36 : Do you write with a black and white sense of morality?nah, murky
37 : What’s one piece of advice you would give to new writers?try anything. anything it doesnt matter if ur nervous or you ‘dont write in that genre’ or you dont even like that genre. its good to train yourself and go out of your comfort zone, makes u a better writer imo. also dont read this and think ‘im not writing an entire historical romance novel bc i hate it’ i mean just one shots. a paragraph or two. try out writing prompts, it really flexes ur skillsalso dont feel like everything u have to write will be published, thats what i mean by try out little paragraphs or prompts. let go of this idea that any of this work will see the light of day [unless u rly want it to] and just have fun, go wild, go crazy, go stupid
38 : What’s one piece of writing advice you try–but fail–to follow?its mostly those ones that help u have cleaner, more beautiful writing. i write really beige-like and its hard to be poetic or flowery
39 : How important is positive reinforcement to you as a writer?probably super important
40 : What would you ask your favorite author if given one question?when ur next book out
41 : Do you find it distracting to read while you’re writing a first draft?nah
42 : Do critiques motivate or discourage you?ive never really had many, so i would say discourage bc i dont have a thick skin with my writing
43 : Do you tend to write protagonists like yourself or unlike yourself?unlike myself, i like to write bold, confident characters and im not that lol escapism much
44 : How do you decide what story idea to work on?whichever interests me the most at the moment, i can jump between projects easily so i dont have a problem 
45 : Do you find it harder or easier to write when you’re stressed out?harder, i cant look at my writing if im stressed else ill absolutely hate it and might do something drastic like delete it all lol
46 : What Hogwarts house would your protagonist(s) be in?ary is slytherincyri is ravenclawash is gryffindorcaena is slytherin [i dont know how to spell the house names]
47 : Where do you see yourself as a writer in five years?still writing id hope
48 : Would you ever co-write?nah
49 : Are you a fast and rushed writer or a slow and deliberate writer?i used to be fast and rushed bc i was so impatient i just wanted to see the end product but i realised that i really love being in the world of my wips as long as possible so i draw it out and really mull everything over
50 : Would you rather be remembered for your fantastic world-building or your lifelike characters?both lol? i do love worldbuilding but i think characters make a greater impact
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The Internet is my library… beyond that, I’m completely intimidated by it. – Drew Barrymore • I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o’clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the internet commercially… They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It’s not a truck. It’s a series of tubes. – Theodore Stevens • I live in a bubble. I don’t read the blogs, or go on the internet, and I really just don’t know what people are saying because, well I guess I’m afraid to. – Ron Perlman • I love the Internet, and I love wasting time on the Internet – even though it sometimes ends up being not being a waste of time. – Claire Cameron • I sometimes wonder how we spent leisure time before satellite television and Internet came along…and then I realise that I have spent more than half of my life in the ‘dark ages’! – Arthur C. Clarke • I think [the virtual choir] speaks well to a benevolent future for the Internet. – Eric Whitacre • I think it’s a bit silly to brand the Internet as the ‘downfall of youth.’- Ernest Cline • I think middle America has changed very, very much. I think people are way more open-minded. I think – I think it’s because the Internet. I think they’re exposed to so much. All the men talked about how much they love their wife, which I don’t hear all the time in art communities.- John Waters • I think that online harassment has become so ubiquitous on the Internet that a lot of women do feel safer, whatever that means, in spaces where they know like people are not going to bother them in that kind of way. – Jessica Valenti • I think that the Internet is our most profound and beautiful achievement. It is magnificent. We have the Internet as a layer of our thinking that doesn’t control us, we control it, yet we don’t have to be aware of it. It will be like a suit that really fits well. – Augusten Burroughs • I think there is a possible future where maybe we do just take a hard turn away from the Internet and we do start valuing our privacy again. – Brian K. Vaughan • I think with every successful consumer Internet business, there will be lawyers that are interested in going after your company, especially when they think that there’s a financial incentive. – Jeremy Stoppelman • I use the Internet for what it’s for: to learn. – Danny Brown • I want to preserve the free and open Internet – the experience that most users and entrepreneurs have come to expect and enjoy today and that has unleashed impressive innovation, job creation, and investment. – Julius Genachowski • I wanted to highlight the destruction in Gaza by posting photos on my website – but on the internet, people only look at pictures of kittens. – Banksy • I wanted to reexamine the idea of the album for generations of people who are not my age, who love music or learning about music or are finding this band called R.E.M. or have just previously heard “Losing My Religion” and “Everybody Hurts” as their elevator music. I wanted to present an idea of what an album could be in the age of YouTube and the Internet. – Christopher Bollen • I was inspired by the Hole in the Wall project, where a computer with an internet connection was put in a Delhi slum. When the slum was revisited after a month, the children of that slum had learned how to use the worldwide web. – Sugata Mitra • I wont deny that I have a far more productive writing life without the Internet, mostly because I rekindle my ability to concentrate on one thing for a period of longer than three minutes. My curiosity is channeled inward rather than Internet-ward. – Heidi Julavits • I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she’s too young to have logged on yet. Here’s what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say ‘Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?’ – Mike Godwin • I’d like to know what the Internet is going to look like in 2050. Thinking about it makes me wish I were eight years old. – Vinton Cerf • If I do need to make money suddenly, I prefer to just draw something I want to draw and have someone else sell it for me on the Internet. – Chester Brown • If some unemployed punk in New Jersey, can get a cassette to make love to Elle McPherson for $19.95, this virtual reality stuff is going to make crack look like Sanka. – Dennis Miller • If the Internet can be described as a giant human consciousness, then viral marketing is the illusion of free will. – George Pendle • If the Internet is worth its salt, it has to help arrest the forces that promote inequality, monopoly, hypercommercialism, corruption, depoliticization and stagnation. – Robert Waterman McChesney • If the Internet turns out not to be the future of computing, we’re toast. But if it is, we’re golden. – Larry Ellison • If you and I got on an airplane, you’re going to L.A., Los Angeles, and I’m going to Senegal, we get there about the same time. 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I’m grateful to be a witness to that. It’s horse and buggy versus car. To see how quickly things change has given me a renewed sense of optimism. Does that make sense? – Kathleen Hanna Impact, Roles, Stuff • In a way, the whole music industry is just catering to the inherent esteem issues all these artists have – it lays it all out on the line and baits the artist, like a light baits a mosquito. And you go right into it. With every comment on the internet, you go up, you go down, and it’s a big shitshow full of uneducated people. – Willis Earl Beal • In much the same way, motherhood has become the essential female experience, valued above all others: giving life is where it’s at. Give birth in cities where accommodation is precarious, schools have surrendered the fight and children are subject to the most vicious mental assault through advertising, TV, internet, fizzy drink manufacturers and so on. Without children you will never be fulfilled as a woman, but bringing up kids in decent conditions is almost impossible. – Virginie Despentes • In order for us [people] to progress, we need brilliance and brilliance isn’t fair and it’s not polite and we can’t grow it. It happens. Genius happens and it doesn’t always happen in a zip code where we can access it. Therefore, we kind of need [Internet] not to keep tabs on everybody but we need to give them access to everybody else. – Augusten Burroughs • In production, in the first couple of weeks of production, that it was more like making an internet musical. – Joss Whedon • In the Internet age, with the screaming on the radio, etc., it is hard to know what to believe and who is informed and who is not. – Michael Specter • In this business, by the time you realize you’re in trouble, it’s too late to save yourself. Unless you’re running scared all the time, you’re gone. – Bill Gates Information, Pickles, Turns • Innovation is what America does best. Whether it is the Apollo Project to the moon, developing the most advanced defense technologies available, the rise of the Internet or the latest advancements in biomedical gene therapies, our nation leads the world in transformative innovations. – Martin Heinrich • Internet technology, like anything else that mankind creates is a tool and that tool can be used for good or for evil, like a light saber. Technology is supposed to bring people together, streamline things and make life easier and in a lot of ways it does that. However, technology can also disconnect you from other people and break down the social network, the real social network of family and friends and interpersonal communication, and isolate people, make them feel alone, make them feel small. So it’s a tool that needs to be used correctly. – Rainn Wilson • Internet users, that blue screen of death you were looking at this morning? That’s the sky. If you’re still confused, look it up on Wikipedia tomorrow. – Stephen Colbert • It all stems from the same thing – which is that when we are face to face – and this is what I think is so ironic about Facebook being called Facebook, because we are not face to face on Facebook … when we are face to face, we are inhibited by the presence of the other. We are inhibited from aggression by the presence of another face, another person. We’re aware that we’re with a human being. On the Internet, we are disinhibited from taking into full account that we are in the presence of another human being. – Sherry Turkle • It is possible to think that the Internet will be a net positive for society while admitting that there are significant downsides – after all, it’s not a revolution if nobody loses. – Clay Shirky • It shouldn’t be too much of a surprise that the Internet has evolved into a force strong enough to reflect the greatest hopes and fears of those who use it. After all, it was designed to withstand nuclear war, not just the puny huffs and puffs of politicians and religious fanatics. – Denise Caruso • Its flattering that there are lots of Internet fan sites about me. Im a bit of a technophobe and I dont even own a laptop, but its probably a good thing Im not logged on, checking up on what everyone is saying about me. – Jonas Armstrong • It’s important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It’s not only life of babies, but it’s life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the Internet. – George W. Bush • It’s like they say in the Internet world — if you’re doing the same thing today you were doing six months ago, you’re doing the wrong thing. Parents can learn a lot from that. – Bruce Feiler • It’s very advantageous to be sensitive with your work – and, yet, being sensitive, in reality, when criticized, it can annihilate you. It can destroy you. And with the internet there sometimes is a lot of harm, which I find must be very difficult for youngsters coming on – it can be very harsh; the criticism. And, sometimes, it can be a little cruel – which makes it hard for young performers coming on. – Michael Crawford • I’ve learned a lot about things because of the Internet. I’m happy with it, but it’s a long road for me. I’m still definitely a little anti. – Patrick Stump • John Kerry is finding out that it is no fun to be the front runner, that’s when you get all the heat. He had to deny internet rumors this week that he had Botox treatments. The Republicans say Kerry should have a clear, unfurrowed brow the old fashioned way by not giving a sh–. – Bill Maher • Just as the Internet drops transaction and collaboration costs in business and government, it also drops the cost of dissent, of rebellion, and even insurrection. – Don Tapscott • Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacophony of the unfettered speech the First Amendment protects. – Stewart Dalzell • Just as we could have rode into the sunset, along came the Internet, and it tripled the significance of the PC. – Andy Grove • Magazines that depend on photography, and design, and long reads, and quality stuff, are going to do just fine despite the Internet and cable news. – Jann Wenner • Most Internet business theorists are really looking at preserving the necks of giant, Fortune 500 companies, rather than promoting the digital, peer-to-peer economy that actually wants to happen. – Douglas Rushkoff • Most kids come home from school. They don’t go to their TVs first. They go to the Internet. They check their emails, or some blogs, or some sites. Then they go watch TV. Other people are at work all day 9-5 in front of a computer. They see certain clips. We’re not going to hide the fact that people use the Internet. We’re going to try to be as interactive as possible with our fans. I’m currently on Twitter and Facebook and Flicker and Dig. I’m on all that stuff. – Jimmy Fallon • My favorite thing about the Internet is that you get to go into the private world of real creeps without having to smell them.- Penn Jillette • My wife and I have purchased two hybrids. We bought a 3 kw photovoltaic unit. We recycle and offset our carbon emissions on the Internet. We turn things off. But we also spend two nice salaries every year, and here’s the dirty little secret – our environmental footprint is HUGE, I’m sure. We’ve all got to do what we can in our individual lives, but we’ve also got to drive the systemic changes that will make the big differences. – James Gustave Speth • Net Neutrality’ is Obamacare for the Internet; the Internet should not operate at the speed of government. – Ted Cruz • Net neutrality was essential for our economy; it was essential to preserve freedom and openness, both for economic reasons and free speech reasons, and the government had a role in ensuring that Internet freedom was protected.- Julius Genachowski • Newspapers and magazines didn’t want pictures of musicians behaving badly back then. Now, because of the Internet, that’s all the media wants. – Mick Rock • Nowadays we have so many things that take our attention – phones, Internet – and perhaps we need to disconnect from those and focus on the immediate world around us and the people that are actually present. – Nicholas Hoult • Nowadays, anyone who cannot speak English and is incapable of using the Internet is regarded as backward. – Al-Waleed bin Talal • On Chinese Internet, freedom is a targeted and precise window. – Michael Anti • On the Internet you get continuous innovation, so every year the streams are a little better. – Reed Hastings • On the Internet, everyone is writing. There is a great flowering of writing.- James Salter • On the Internet, there are an unlimited number of competitors. Anybody with a Flip camera is your competition. What makes it even worse is that YouTube is willing to subsidize the cost of your bandwidth. So anybody can create and distribute for free basically, but the real cost is marketing. And that’s always the big cost – how do you stand out and what’s the cost of standing out? And there’s no limit to that cost. – Mark Cuban • One of the Internet’s strengths is its ability to help consumers find the right needle in a digital haystack of data. – Jared Sandberg • One of the myths about the Internet of Things is that companies have all the data they need, but their real challenge is making sense of it. In reality, the cost of collecting some kinds of data remains too high, the quality of the data isn’t always good enough, and it remains difficult to integrate multiple data sources. – Chris Murphy • One of the things I like about making stuff in the age of the Internet, is that people make stuff in response to it. You can see people respond to your work visually or musically or with writing.- John Green • One of the things that I realized when I left office was that in the 1990’s citizens across the world applied more power than they had ever had, as compared with the government, because of more people living under democracies than dictatorships for the first time, the power of the internet, which the young Chinese used to basically change China’s policy on the SARS epidemic, and shut it down, and because of the rise in non-governmental organizations like my foundation. – William J. Clinton • One of the wonderful things about Internet is its like a salon. It brings people together from different intellectual walks of life. – Eric Kandel • People are mostly focused on defending the computers on the Internet, and there’s been surprisingly little attention to defending the Internet itself as a communications medium. And I think we probably do need to pay some more attention to that, because it’s actually kind of fragile.- Danny Hillis • People depend on the Open Internet to connect and communicate with each other freely. Voters need it to inform themselves before casting ballots. Without prompt corrective action by the Commission to reclassify broadband, this awful ruling will serve as a sorry memorial to the corporate abrogation of free speech. – Michael Copps • People over the age of thirty were born before the digital revolution really started. We’ve learned to use digital technology-laptops, cameras, personal digital assistants, the Internet-as adults, and it has been something like learning a foreign language. Most of us are okay, and some are even expert. We do e-mails and PowerPoint, surf the Internet, and feel we’re at the cutting edge. But compared to most people under thirty and certainly under twenty, we are fumbling amateurs. People of that age were born after the digital revolution began. They learned to speak digital as a mother tongue. – Ken Robinson • People wouldn’t go on Facebook unless they wanted to share with groups of people. But there is this perception that you have been on a course to push people’s information where it’s visible across the Internet unless they do a bunch of stuff. – Walt Mossberg • Privacy is not an option, and it shouldn’t be the price we accept for just getting on the Internet. – Gary Kovacs • Reddit is not a public utility or a public square; its a privately owned space on the Internet. – John Scalzi • Science fiction does not remain fiction for long. And certainly not on the Internet. – Vinton Cerf • Social media and the Internet haven’t changed our capacity for social interaction any more than the Internet has changed our ability to be in love or our basic propensity to violence, because those are such fundamental human attributes. – Nicholas A. Christakis • Some jerk infected the Internet with an outright lie. It shows how easy it is to do and how credulous people are. – Kurt Vonnegut • Thanks is part to our education system, we tend to think that we’re smarter than the stupid guys in funny wigs who came before us. But that’s because we are mistaking technology, progress, and access to information for intelligence. We think that because we know how to use iPhones (but not build them), browse the Internet (but not understand how it works), and use Google (but not really know anything), our educational system is working just great. By the same token, we think that those dumb aristocrats who used horses to get around and didn’t have electricity were neanderthals. – Glenn Beck • That is, we’re into a whole new world with the Internet, and whenever we sort of cross another plateau in our development, there are those who seek to take advantage of it. So this is a replay of things that have happened throughout our history. – William J. Clinton • The American revolutionaries believed in the power of the word. But they had only word of mouth and the printing press. We have the Internet. – Robert Darnton • The artistic desire reveals itself in dark form – in karaoke bars [or] trolling on the Internet. – Young-Ha Kim • The big change, the really radical change in communication, was in the late 19th century. The shift from sailing ships to telegraph is astronomical. Everything since then has been small increments, including the internet. – Noam Chomsky • The big downside to the global village that the Internet has created is that nothing has time to grow out of the public gaze and, even more dangerous, whatever your personal interests might be, there will always be someone somewhere to provide validation and encouragement. – Derek Ridgers • The boom was healthy too, even with its excesses. Because what this incredible valuation craze did was draw untold sums of billions of dollars into building the Internet infrastructure. The hundreds of billions of dollars that got invested in telecommunications, for example. – Andy Grove • The constant buzz and pressure and noise and static of the Internet, and the way it makes young people feel makes it difficult to grow up and develop the way one might want to. – Ethan Hawke • The day I made that statement, about the inventing the internet, I was tired because I’d been up all night inventing the Camcorder. – Al Gore • The Internet “browser”… is the piece of software that puts a message on your computer screen informing you that the Internet is currently busy and you should try again later. – Dave Barry • The Internet has been the most fundamental change during my lifetime and for hundreds of years. Someone the other day said, “It’s the biggest thing since Gutenberg,” and then someone else said “No, it’s the biggest thing since the invention of writing.”- Rupert Murdoch • The Internet has been the most fundamental change during my lifetime and for hundreds of years. – Rupert Murdoch • The Internet has really democratized ideas. There are no real gatekeepers any more, because if you have a great idea, and you put it online, people will find it and it will get in front of who it needs to get in front of. – Justin Halpern • The Internet is a giant international network of intelligent, informed computer enthusiasts, by which I mean, “people without lives.” We don’t care. We have each other. – Dave Barry • The Internet is a giant international network of intelligent, informed computer enthusiasts, by which I mean, “people without lives.” We don’t care. We have each other…. While you are destroying your mind watching the worthless, brain-rotting drivel on TV, we on the Internet are exchanging, freely and openly, the most settings, uninhibited, intimate and, yes, shocking details about our “CONFIG.SYS.” – Dave Barry • The Internet is a telephone system that’s gotten uppity. – Clifford Stoll • The Internet is a very intimate entertainment experience. I’m in my own apartment talking to people, and I want them to feel like they’re with me in my apartment. So if I’m listening to them and taking ideas from them and being honest with how I’m feeling, it resonates even more that we’re having a real, actual conversation. – Grace Helbig • The Internet is all about accessing entertainment. Realistically, 50 to 80 percent of all traffic is people downloading stuff for free. If you can turn that huge market share into something that you can monetize, even if it is just with ads, you will end up making more money than with all other revenue streams combined. – Kim Dotcom • The internet is an amazing medium for languages. – David Crystal • The Internet is becoming the town square for the global village of tomorrow. – Bill Gates • The Internet is disrupting every media industry…people can complain about that, but complaining is not a strategy. And Amazon is not happening to book selling, the future is happening to book selling. – Jeff Bezos • The Internet is just a world passing around notes in a classroom. – Jon Stewart • The Internet is like a gold-rush; the only people making money are those who sell the pans. – Will Hobbs • The Internet is like alcohol in some sense. It accentuates what you would do anyway. If you want to be a loner, you can be more alone. If you want to connect, it makes it easier to connect. – Esther Dyson • The Internet is merely a new means of communication, that’s all it is. It serves the purpose of getting information, which it is fantastic at. I mean, I live by the Internet in terms of research and it’s incredible – there’s nothing that you can’t find out about. It’s not stopped me going to bookshops but I must say that I don’t go into as many because any book I want. – David Bowie • The internet is necessarily public. It can be filtered-public or censored-public, but it necessarily has to be open and available. – John Green • The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn’t understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had. – Eric Schmidt • The Internet is the great equalizer.The technology which emanated from the Silicon Valley of California has more potential to ameliorate social inequality than any development in the history of the world, including the industrial revolution. – Benazir Bhutto • The Internet is the greatest thing that ever happened to the entertainment industry. – Michael Ovitz • The Internet is the most important single development in the history of human communication since the invention of call waiting. – Dave Barry • The internet makes everything not enough. – Alec Sulkin • The Internet nowadays is all sensationalism, and it’s just terrifying when you’re actually experiencing it as a person.- Bradford Cox • The Internet seems like a safe house for the opposite mentality, for cynics and for jerks and for people who want to lash out. And it’s a valid thing. It’s a valid forum and I’m not going say that they aren’t valid feelings. But it’s sad. Considering the potential that something like the Internet, that connects so many people, has for good. I think it’s sad that it’s used so often for nothing but unfounded, overzealous negativity. – Chris Gethard • The Internet shapes my life and work so completely that I couldn’t imagine living without it. – Nicola Formichetti • The Internet was done so well that most people think of it as a natural resource like the Pacific Ocean, rather than something that was man-made. When was the last time a technology with a scale like that was so error-free? The Web, in comparison, is a joke. The Web was done by amateurs. – Alan Kay • The Internet will help achieve “friction free capitalism” by putting buyer and seller in direct contact and providing more information to both about each other. – Bill Gates • The Internet, I’m trying to point out, is a kooks’ paradise. Anybody with a keyboard and a modem can spread fear, loathing, and just plain asinine ideas among hundreds of thousands of people with the click of a button. Discouraging, but true. – David F. Emery • The Internet, of course, is more than a place to find pictures of people having sex with dogs. – Philip Elmer-DeWitt • The Internet, too, has strong attributes of a public good, and has undermined the “private good” attributes of old media. Internet service providers obviously can exclude people, but the actual content -the values, the ideas- can be shared with no loss of value for the consumer. It is also extremely inexpensive and easy to share material. Sharing is built into the culture and practices of the Web and has made it difficult for the subscription model to be effective. – Robert Waterman McChesney • The Internet]is a series of tubes. And if you don’t understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it’s going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.- Theodore Stevens • The Internets distinct configuration may have made cyberattacks easy to launch, but it has also kindled the flame of freedom. – Jonathan Zittrain • The internet’s perfect for all manner of things, but productive discussion ain’t one of them. It provides scant room for debate and infinite opportunities for fruitless point-scoring: the heady combination of perceived anonymity, gestated responses, random heckling and a notional “live audience” quickly conspire to create a “perfect storm” of perpetual bickering. – Charlie Brooker • The key is really just saying my brain isn’t big enough to figure out why everything happens. It would be like an ant trying to understand the internet. – Rick Warren • The kind of environment that we developed Google in, the reason that we were able to develop a search engine, is the web was so open. Once you get too many rules, that will stifle innovation. – Sergey Brin • The most important thing for people to understand is that the basic rule that people have a right to send information over the Internet – even when they are using a wireless device – is part of the framework. – Julius Genachowski • The new information technology… Internet and e-mail… have practically eliminated the physical costs of communications. – Peter Drucker • The old internet is shrinking and being replaced by walled gardens over which Google’s crawlers can’t climb. – John Battelle • The penetration of society by the Internet and the penetration of the Internet by society is the best thing that has ever happened to global human civilisation. – Julian Assange • The remarkable social impact and economic success of the Internet is in many ways directly attributable to the architectural characteristics that were part of its design. The Internet was designed with no gatekeepers over new content or services. – Vinton Cerf • The screen is a window through which one sees a virtual world. The challenge is to make that world look real, act real, sound real, feel real. – Ivan Sutherland • The Semantic Web is not a separate Web but an extension of the current one, in which information is given well-defined meaning, better enabling computers and people to work in cooperation.- Tim Berners-Lee • The serialization through the Internet or through digital portals, means of ways of communicating, and I think that’s great. – Keanu Reeves • The web site and the Internet are a whole new ball game. – Johnny Ramistella • The whole, ‘Is the internet a good thing or a bad thing’? We’re done with that. It’s just a thing. How to maximise its civic value, its public good – that’s the really big challenge. – Clay Shirky • The worst and the best that the internet ever did was give everybody a voice. – Simon Pegg • There are two things in particular that it [the computer industry] failed to foresee: one was the coming of the Internet(…); the other was the fact that the century would end. – Douglas Adams • There is a very personal price to public humiliation, and the growth of the Internet has jacked up that price. – Monica Lewinsky • There was more data transmitted over the Internet in 2010 than the entire history of the Internet through 2009. – Ben Parr • There’s no real organised body, … so through the internet people have spread their videos, spread photos, and spread word of a new urban movement. – Chris Hayes • Think about this: It was illegal for most people to connect to the internet before 1992.- Steve Case • Thousands of people were producing new Web sites every day. We were just trying to take all that stuff and organize it to make it useful. – David Filo • To get a big company moving fast, especially on a many-headed opportunity like the Internet, you have to have hundreds of people participating and coming up with ideas. – Bill Gates • To seek Truth is automatically a calling for the innate dissident and the subversive; how many are willing to give up safety and security for the perilous life of the spiritual revolutionary? How many are willing to truly learn that their own cherished concepts are wrong? Striking provocative or mysterious poses in the safety of Internet [social media] is far easier than taking the risks involved in the hard work of genuine initiation. – Zeena Schreck • Today with technological advancement, with the Internet, with planes, with the rate at which we travel – even if you wanted, you cannot hide from the rest of the world. And whether you like it or not, you are part of this global marketplace, and so you might as well understand it, you might as well embrace it, because even if you hide, it will find you. – • Together with the rise of the internet, September 11 and its aftermath has changed most of our lives. – Hedi Slimane • Trade on the Internet is becoming very widespread. The problem is our laws have not caught up with electronic commerce. – Susan Bysiewicz • Turns out, theres not a lot of information about pickles on the Internet. – Brian Posehn • US has to be able to rely on a safe and interconnected internet in order to compete with other countries. – Edward Snowden • US spend more on research and development than the other countries, so we shouldn’t be making the internet a more hostile, a more aggressive territory. – Edward Snowden • Use the Internet to get off the Internet! – Scott Heiferman • Video for the Internet has become a testing ground for mediums that actually have revenue. – Mark Cuban • We are excited about Internet access in general. With better access to the Internet, people do more searches. – Larry Page • We believe we’re moving out of the Ice Age, the Iron Age, the Industrial Age, the Information Age, to the participation age. You get on the Net and you do stuff. You IM (instant message), you blog, you take pictures, you publish, you podcast, you transact, you distance learn, you telemedicine. You are participating on the Internet, not just viewing stuff. We build the infrastructure that goes in the data center that facilitates the participation age. We build that big friggin’ Webtone switch. It has security, directory, identity, privacy, storage, compute, the whole Web services stack. – Scott McNealy • We didn’t know the importance of home computers before the Internet. We had them mostly for fun, then the Internet came along and was enabled by all the PCs out there. – Burt Rutan • We have a strong and credible broadband policy because the man who has devised it, the man who will implement it virtually invented the Internet in this country. – Tony Abbott • We must also promote global access to the Internet. We need to bridge the digital divide not just within our country. But among countries. Only by giving people around the world access to this technology can they tap into the potential. Of the information age. – Al Gore • We’re into tech stuff, gadgets, phones, video games. We’ll treat a video game premiere like a movie premiere. I’m just going to be honest with what I like and what I do. What I enjoy. We’re not going to hide the fact that people are on the Internet all day. I think a lot of shows don’t really mention that. – Jimmy Fallon • What we need is a plan B … independent of the Internet. [It] doesn’t necessarily have to have the performance of the Internet, but the police department has to be able to call up the fire department. – Danny Hillis • What, exactly, is the internet? Basically it is a global network exchanging digitized data in such a way that any computer, anywhere, that is equipped with a device called a ‘modem’, can make a noise like a duck choking on a kazoo – Dave Barry • When Bill Clinton assembled the top minds of the nation to discuss the economy in 1992, no one mentioned the Internet. – David Leonhardt • When people conceptualize a cyber-attack, they do tend to think about parts of the critical infrastructure like power plants, water supplies, and similar sort of heavy infrastructure, critical infrastructure areas. And they could be hit, as long as they’re network connected, as long as they have some kind of systems that interact with them that could be manipulated from internet connection. – Edward Snowden • When the Internet first came into public use, it was hailed as a liberation from conformity, a floating world ruled by passion, creativity, innovation and freedom of information. When it was hijacked first by advertising and then by commerce, it seemed like it had been fully co-opted and brought into line with human greed and ambition. – Neil Strauss • When you find yourself on the Internet when you’re supposed to be writing, you’ve already lost. It’s even beyond procrastination when you end up on the Internet. – Noah Baumbach • When you get a small group of fans who hate something, it becomes compounded by the internet. The press picks up the internet like it’s a source. They don’t realise it is just one person typing out their opinion. – George Lucas • When you make the claim that something on the Internet is going to be good for democracy, you often [hear], ‘Are you talking about the thing with the singing cats?’ – Clay Shirky • When you use any kind of internet based capability, any kind of electronic capability, to cause damage to a private entity or a foreign nation or a foreign actor, these are potential acts of war. – Edward Snowden • Who needs evidence when you’ve got the Internet? – Christopher Buckley • Will the highways on the Internet become more few? – George W. Bush • With the development of the Internet…we are in the middle of the most transforming technological event since the capture of fire. I used to think that it was just the biggest thing since Gutenberg, but now I think you have to go back farther. – John Perry Barlow • With YouTube – with the Internet in general – you have information overload. The people who dont necessarily get credit are the curators. – Chad Hurley • You can always find a stray negative comment on the Internet. It’s like everybody loves to put negative comments on the Internet under the cloak of anonymity. – John Legend • You can go back to tulip bulbs in Holland 400 years ago. The human beings going through combinations of fear and greed and all of that sort of thing, their behavior can lead to bubbles. And it may have had and Internet bubble at one time, you’ve had a farm bubble, farmland bubble in the Midwest which resulted in all kinds of tragedy in the early ’80s. – Howard Warren Buffett • You could have these crazy Internet valuations in the late 1990s, but they prove themselves out in the market. The next day they were selling for more than they were the day before, and people said, you know, you’re crazy if you don’t get in on this. So it’s very human. – Howard Warren Buffett • You have to be very clear with yourself about how you’re going to spend your time. When a child is at school or napping, you need to realize that this is your writing time and you don’t spend it surfing the Internet or reading. – Elizabeth Hoyt • You spend money on Internet connection for your employees. Why not spend money on the energy that fuels their brains? – Shawn Achor • Younger feminists actually care about stuff that came before them, the same way that I totally cared about and loved and felt so lucky to have access to the feminism that came before me. To have younger people take what me and my friends have done, and to say ‘We have access to that, but we’re going to put that through our own Internet generation filter and we’re going to make it into something that speaks to us and is a lot smarter.’ – Kathleen Hanna
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• A lot of people can be afraid of the masking because people can misrepresent themselves [in the Internet] and they can pose as people they’re not. Well, yeah; that’s true. That’s one side of it. But the other side of it is that it equalizes you and if you happen to be a person who is not equal in the eyes of the greater society that’s a damn good thing. – Augusten Burroughs • A lot of rumours on the Internet are wrong and horrible. – Carine Roitfeld • Access to science is greater than ever before. There are more vehicles out there that grant the public access to science. Not to mention the Internet. – Neil deGrasse Tyson • According to new statistics, Pope Francis is the most talked about person on the Internet. And not only that, he has the most viewed profile on Christian Mingle. – Conan O’Brien • After Memory Keepers Daughter, it took me a few months to shut out the world. I really had to turn off the Internet and sort of cloister myself away from the world again and sink into that psychic space to write again. – Kim Edwards • Am I going to regret leaving Wall Street? No. Will I regret missing the beginning of the Internet? Yes. – Jeff Bezos • America Online customers are upset because the company has decided to allow advertising in its chat rooms. I can see why: you got computer sex, you can download pornography, people are making dates with 10 year-olds. Hey, what’s this? A Pepsi ad? They’re ruining the integrity of the Internet! – Jay Leno • America should be cooling down the tensions in the internet, making it a more trusted environment, making it a more secure environment, making it a more reliable environment, because that’s the foundation of our economy and our future. – Edward Snowden • An attitude of only taking what you need was built into the protocols of the Internet itself.- Danny Hillis • Anyone who attempts to generate random numbers by deterministic means is, of course, living in a state of sin. – John von Neumann • As a graduate student at Oxford in 1963, I began writing about books in revolutionary France, helping to found the discipline of book history. I was in my academic corner writing about Enlightenment ideals when the Internet exploded the world of academic communication in the 1990s. – Robert Darnton • As long as you have markets, you’ll have excesses. People went crazy with tulip bulbs. They went crazy with the South Sea Bubble, they went crazy internet stocks, they went crazy with the uranium stocks back when I was first getting started. I mean, you know, you’re not going to change the human animal. And the human animal really doesn’t get a lot smarter. – Howard Warren Buffett • As the most participatory form of mass speech yet developed, the Internet deserves the highest protection from government intrusion. – Stewart Dalzell
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[clickbank-storefront-bestselling] • Chinese national Internet policy is very simple: Block and clone. – Michael Anti • Cloud computing offers individuals access to data and applications from nearly any point of access to the Internet, offers businesses a whole new way to cut costs for technical infrastructure, and offers big computer companies a potentially giant market for hardware and services. – Jamais Cascio • Crackdowns on Internet content make clear the need for an anonymized Web. Now, someone just needs to implement it. – Jamais Cascio • Cryptography is the essential building block of independence for organisations on the internet, just like armies are the essential building blocks of states, because otherwise one state just takes over another. – Julian Assange • Cutting through the acronyms and argot that littered the hearing testimony, the Internet may fairly be regarded as a never-ending worldwide conversation. The government may not, through the CDA, interrupt that conversation. – Stewart Dalzell • Cyberspace undeniably reflects some form of geography.- Sandra Day O’Connor • Describing the Internet as the Network of Networks is like calling the Space Shuttle, a thing that flies. – Jon Lester • Don’t ever, ever try to lie to the internet. – Gabe Newell • Dont you think dreams and the Internet are similar? They are both areas where the repressed conscious mind vents.- Yasutaka Tsutsui • During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. – Al Gore • Email is a 40-year-old technology that is not going away for very good reasons – it’s the cockroach of the Internet. – Jason Hirschhorn • Entire new continent can emerge from the ocean in the time it takes for a Web page to show up on your screen. Contrary to what you may have heard, the Internet does not operate at the speed of light; it operates at the speed of the DMV. – Dave Barry • Eventually, somewhere – be it on the Internet or somewhere else – I will host some version of ‘The Daily Show.’ – Marcus Brigstocke • Falling in love and having a relationship are two different things but yeah I can imagine that you can kind of – I think it depends on one’s psychological state. I think there are some people who are on the internet and can fall in love and seem to be in a certain psychological state and other people who are – who couldn’t quite do that. – Keanu Reeves • Getting information off the Internet is like taking a drink from a fire hydrant. – Mitchell Kapor • Government investment unlocks a huge amount of private sector activity, but the basic research that we put into IT work that led to the Internet and lots of great companies and jobs, the basic work we put into the health care sector, where it’s over $30 billion a year in R&D that led the biotech and pharma jobs. And it creates jobs and it creates new technologies that will be productized. But the government has to prime the pump here. The basic ideas, as in those other industries, start with government investment. – Bill Gates • Guys should not be allowed to use the Internet all day long. So sad.- Natasha Leggero • Human beings are attracted to novelty: to probe the adjacent possible. We didnt stay in the caves. We didnt stay on the planet, and soon we wont stay within the limitations of our biology. We move forward. We transcend our limits. We go to the moon, and we create the Internet. – Jason Silva • I agree completely with my son James when he says ‘Internet is like electricity. The latter lights up everything, while the former lights up knowledge’. – Kerry Packer • I always had faith in the internet. I believed in it and thought it was obviously going to change the way the world worked. I really did not understand why others were selling their stock. As stock prices plunged, I just bought them, one after another, since I had the money. I guess I was rather lucky. – Takafumi Horie • I always try and tell dudes that are younger than me is that because of the Internet everyone can just be by themselves doing something, but the importance of a group is being able to have some sort of competition. – Earl Sweatshirt • I always use the Internet. It’s a great marketing tool. It’s a great starting point, allowing you to show your trailer and have people all over world be able to see it. It was much harder in the old days. – Tom Six • I am possibly thinking about doing an Internet show in the future that will highlight political organizations that I seek out to let people know about them, volunteer opportunities, and donation opportunities. – Kathleen Hanna • I coauthored my first nonfiction book by the time I was 25. I have been involved in nonfiction documentaries, newspapers, TV and internet since that time.- Julian Assange • I do get offered a lot more roles than I choose to do. I’m very busy as a producer and a writer, especially with my Internet stuff, and I tend to only accept the roles that I know will have an impact and has a fanbase. – Felicia Day • I don’t sweat the Internet. You know, it’s still something I enjoy as a movie geek myself to get on and, like, look at all the websites; however, when it comes to marketing a movie, the Internet is still not the thing that gets people to the theatre. – Michael De Luca • I don’t worry about anything in the Internet age. I have been online since I was aware of it: 1985 in San Francisco. It has changed everything in my life. I would not want to even be alive in an era that did not have it because it is essential to our evolution as a species. – Augusten Burroughs • I graduated from high school in 1963. There were no computers, cell phones, Internet, credit cards, cassette tapes or cable TV. – Jeffrey Gitomer • I had had a lot of experience in bringing the Internet to Australia, and I saw that knowledge in the hands of people achieves reform.- Julian Assange • I hate auditioning; it makes me more nervous than anything ever, and I always feel like I wasted my time and I could have been creating my own thing. With the Internet, you have so much freedom that ‘gatekeepers’ make me terrified. – Grace Helbig • I have a very low tolerance for boredom and often think I would have missed out on books entirely if Id grown up in the Internet and video game age. Now I enjoy books for people of all ages, including children. – Rick Yancey • I have always had stuff on the internet, way back in the Myspace days, I had a lot of friends on Myspace. And it is just all about like networking – contacting people and showing people, like, your mind. – Kreayshawn • I have an almost religious zeal… not for technology per se, but for the Internet which is for me, the nervous system of mother Earth, which I see as a living creature, linking up. – Dan Millman • I have no internet savvy whatsoever, but I love researching things. The Internet is my library… beyond that, I’m completely intimidated by it. – Drew Barrymore • I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o’clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the internet commercially… They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It’s not a truck. It’s a series of tubes. – Theodore Stevens • I live in a bubble. I don’t read the blogs, or go on the internet, and I really just don’t know what people are saying because, well I guess I’m afraid to. – Ron Perlman • I love the Internet, and I love wasting time on the Internet – even though it sometimes ends up being not being a waste of time. – Claire Cameron • I sometimes wonder how we spent leisure time before satellite television and Internet came along…and then I realise that I have spent more than half of my life in the ‘dark ages’! – Arthur C. Clarke • I think [the virtual choir] speaks well to a benevolent future for the Internet. – Eric Whitacre • I think it’s a bit silly to brand the Internet as the ‘downfall of youth.’- Ernest Cline • I think middle America has changed very, very much. I think people are way more open-minded. I think – I think it’s because the Internet. I think they’re exposed to so much. All the men talked about how much they love their wife, which I don’t hear all the time in art communities.- John Waters • I think that online harassment has become so ubiquitous on the Internet that a lot of women do feel safer, whatever that means, in spaces where they know like people are not going to bother them in that kind of way. – Jessica Valenti • I think that the Internet is our most profound and beautiful achievement. It is magnificent. We have the Internet as a layer of our thinking that doesn’t control us, we control it, yet we don’t have to be aware of it. It will be like a suit that really fits well. – Augusten Burroughs • I think there is a possible future where maybe we do just take a hard turn away from the Internet and we do start valuing our privacy again. – Brian K. Vaughan • I think with every successful consumer Internet business, there will be lawyers that are interested in going after your company, especially when they think that there’s a financial incentive. – Jeremy Stoppelman • I use the Internet for what it’s for: to learn. – Danny Brown • I want to preserve the free and open Internet – the experience that most users and entrepreneurs have come to expect and enjoy today and that has unleashed impressive innovation, job creation, and investment. – Julius Genachowski • I wanted to highlight the destruction in Gaza by posting photos on my website – but on the internet, people only look at pictures of kittens. – Banksy • I wanted to reexamine the idea of the album for generations of people who are not my age, who love music or learning about music or are finding this band called R.E.M. or have just previously heard “Losing My Religion” and “Everybody Hurts” as their elevator music. I wanted to present an idea of what an album could be in the age of YouTube and the Internet. – Christopher Bollen • I was inspired by the Hole in the Wall project, where a computer with an internet connection was put in a Delhi slum. When the slum was revisited after a month, the children of that slum had learned how to use the worldwide web. – Sugata Mitra • I wont deny that I have a far more productive writing life without the Internet, mostly because I rekindle my ability to concentrate on one thing for a period of longer than three minutes. My curiosity is channeled inward rather than Internet-ward. – Heidi Julavits • I worry about my child and the Internet all the time, even though she’s too young to have logged on yet. Here’s what I worry about. I worry that 10 or 15 years from now, she will come to me and say ‘Daddy, where were you when they took freedom of the press away from the Internet?’ – Mike Godwin • I’d like to know what the Internet is going to look like in 2050. Thinking about it makes me wish I were eight years old. – Vinton Cerf • If I do need to make money suddenly, I prefer to just draw something I want to draw and have someone else sell it for me on the Internet. – Chester Brown • If some unemployed punk in New Jersey, can get a cassette to make love to Elle McPherson for $19.95, this virtual reality stuff is going to make crack look like Sanka. – Dennis Miller • If the Internet can be described as a giant human consciousness, then viral marketing is the illusion of free will. – George Pendle • If the Internet is worth its salt, it has to help arrest the forces that promote inequality, monopoly, hypercommercialism, corruption, depoliticization and stagnation. – Robert Waterman McChesney • If the Internet turns out not to be the future of computing, we’re toast. But if it is, we’re golden. – Larry Ellison • If you and I got on an airplane, you’re going to L.A., Los Angeles, and I’m going to Senegal, we get there about the same time. The world is just that small. So a world that is so tightly bound by science and technology and now Internet and the web page, that world is too small for bullies. It has no room in that world for arrogance. – Jesse Jackson • If you have a kid and you try irony out on them, they don’t get it at 7, 8 years old. You can’t really hide the Internet from kids. It worries me some particularly because I’ve done Disney and Pixar stuff. – Randy Newman • If you hear an expert talking about the Internet and saying it [does] this, or it will do that, you should treat it with the same skepticism that you might treat the comments of an economist about the economy or a weatherman about the weather.- Danny Hillis • If you look at the evolution of games from console to Internet to mobile, and look at social networking from Web to mobile, everything is fragmenting. – Chris DeWolfe • If you offer people a decent service, if you give them you know Internet access, if their phones are not cut off on the trains, you know if you have plugs where they can plug in their computers, and if you have a smiling, cheerful staff; and if you can travel really quickly, then you can make a success out of the rail business. – Richard Branson • I’m a great believer in particularly being alert to changes that change something, anything, by an order of magnitude, and nothing operates with the factors of 10 as profoundly as the Internet. – Andy Grove • Im accustomed to Internet forums where rudeness and incivility are the rule, where too many people seem to take pride in their insults. – Bryan Burrough • I’m lucky enough to have been in the age before the internet and now during the internet. I’m grateful to be a witness to that. It’s horse and buggy versus car. To see how quickly things change has given me a renewed sense of optimism. Does that make sense? – Kathleen Hanna Impact, Roles, Stuff • In a way, the whole music industry is just catering to the inherent esteem issues all these artists have – it lays it all out on the line and baits the artist, like a light baits a mosquito. And you go right into it. With every comment on the internet, you go up, you go down, and it’s a big shitshow full of uneducated people. – Willis Earl Beal • In much the same way, motherhood has become the essential female experience, valued above all others: giving life is where it’s at. Give birth in cities where accommodation is precarious, schools have surrendered the fight and children are subject to the most vicious mental assault through advertising, TV, internet, fizzy drink manufacturers and so on. Without children you will never be fulfilled as a woman, but bringing up kids in decent conditions is almost impossible. – Virginie Despentes • In order for us [people] to progress, we need brilliance and brilliance isn’t fair and it’s not polite and we can’t grow it. It happens. Genius happens and it doesn’t always happen in a zip code where we can access it. Therefore, we kind of need [Internet] not to keep tabs on everybody but we need to give them access to everybody else. – Augusten Burroughs • In production, in the first couple of weeks of production, that it was more like making an internet musical. – Joss Whedon • In the Internet age, with the screaming on the radio, etc., it is hard to know what to believe and who is informed and who is not. – Michael Specter • In this business, by the time you realize you’re in trouble, it’s too late to save yourself. Unless you’re running scared all the time, you’re gone. – Bill Gates Information, Pickles, Turns • Innovation is what America does best. Whether it is the Apollo Project to the moon, developing the most advanced defense technologies available, the rise of the Internet or the latest advancements in biomedical gene therapies, our nation leads the world in transformative innovations. – Martin Heinrich • Internet technology, like anything else that mankind creates is a tool and that tool can be used for good or for evil, like a light saber. Technology is supposed to bring people together, streamline things and make life easier and in a lot of ways it does that. However, technology can also disconnect you from other people and break down the social network, the real social network of family and friends and interpersonal communication, and isolate people, make them feel alone, make them feel small. So it’s a tool that needs to be used correctly. – Rainn Wilson • Internet users, that blue screen of death you were looking at this morning? That’s the sky. If you’re still confused, look it up on Wikipedia tomorrow. – Stephen Colbert • It all stems from the same thing – which is that when we are face to face – and this is what I think is so ironic about Facebook being called Facebook, because we are not face to face on Facebook … when we are face to face, we are inhibited by the presence of the other. We are inhibited from aggression by the presence of another face, another person. We’re aware that we’re with a human being. On the Internet, we are disinhibited from taking into full account that we are in the presence of another human being. – Sherry Turkle • It is possible to think that the Internet will be a net positive for society while admitting that there are significant downsides – after all, it’s not a revolution if nobody loses. – Clay Shirky • It shouldn’t be too much of a surprise that the Internet has evolved into a force strong enough to reflect the greatest hopes and fears of those who use it. After all, it was designed to withstand nuclear war, not just the puny huffs and puffs of politicians and religious fanatics. – Denise Caruso • Its flattering that there are lots of Internet fan sites about me. Im a bit of a technophobe and I dont even own a laptop, but its probably a good thing Im not logged on, checking up on what everyone is saying about me. – Jonas Armstrong • It’s important for us to explain to our nation that life is important. It’s not only life of babies, but it’s life of children living in, you know, the dark dungeons of the Internet. – George W. Bush • It’s like they say in the Internet world — if you’re doing the same thing today you were doing six months ago, you’re doing the wrong thing. Parents can learn a lot from that. – Bruce Feiler • It’s very advantageous to be sensitive with your work – and, yet, being sensitive, in reality, when criticized, it can annihilate you. It can destroy you. And with the internet there sometimes is a lot of harm, which I find must be very difficult for youngsters coming on – it can be very harsh; the criticism. And, sometimes, it can be a little cruel – which makes it hard for young performers coming on. – Michael Crawford • I’ve learned a lot about things because of the Internet. I’m happy with it, but it’s a long road for me. I’m still definitely a little anti. – Patrick Stump • John Kerry is finding out that it is no fun to be the front runner, that’s when you get all the heat. He had to deny internet rumors this week that he had Botox treatments. The Republicans say Kerry should have a clear, unfurrowed brow the old fashioned way by not giving a sh–. – Bill Maher • Just as the Internet drops transaction and collaboration costs in business and government, it also drops the cost of dissent, of rebellion, and even insurrection. – Don Tapscott • Just as the strength of the Internet is chaos, so the strength of our liberty depends upon the chaos and cacophony of the unfettered speech the First Amendment protects. – Stewart Dalzell • Just as we could have rode into the sunset, along came the Internet, and it tripled the significance of the PC. – Andy Grove • Magazines that depend on photography, and design, and long reads, and quality stuff, are going to do just fine despite the Internet and cable news. – Jann Wenner • Most Internet business theorists are really looking at preserving the necks of giant, Fortune 500 companies, rather than promoting the digital, peer-to-peer economy that actually wants to happen. – Douglas Rushkoff • Most kids come home from school. They don’t go to their TVs first. They go to the Internet. They check their emails, or some blogs, or some sites. Then they go watch TV. Other people are at work all day 9-5 in front of a computer. They see certain clips. We’re not going to hide the fact that people use the Internet. We’re going to try to be as interactive as possible with our fans. I’m currently on Twitter and Facebook and Flicker and Dig. I’m on all that stuff. – Jimmy Fallon • My favorite thing about the Internet is that you get to go into the private world of real creeps without having to smell them.- Penn Jillette • My wife and I have purchased two hybrids. We bought a 3 kw photovoltaic unit. We recycle and offset our carbon emissions on the Internet. We turn things off. But we also spend two nice salaries every year, and here’s the dirty little secret – our environmental footprint is HUGE, I’m sure. We’ve all got to do what we can in our individual lives, but we’ve also got to drive the systemic changes that will make the big differences. – James Gustave Speth • Net Neutrality’ is Obamacare for the Internet; the Internet should not operate at the speed of government. – Ted Cruz • Net neutrality was essential for our economy; it was essential to preserve freedom and openness, both for economic reasons and free speech reasons, and the government had a role in ensuring that Internet freedom was protected.- Julius Genachowski • Newspapers and magazines didn’t want pictures of musicians behaving badly back then. Now, because of the Internet, that’s all the media wants. – Mick Rock • Nowadays we have so many things that take our attention – phones, Internet – and perhaps we need to disconnect from those and focus on the immediate world around us and the people that are actually present. – Nicholas Hoult • Nowadays, anyone who cannot speak English and is incapable of using the Internet is regarded as backward. – Al-Waleed bin Talal • On Chinese Internet, freedom is a targeted and precise window. – Michael Anti • On the Internet you get continuous innovation, so every year the streams are a little better. – Reed Hastings • On the Internet, everyone is writing. There is a great flowering of writing.- James Salter • On the Internet, there are an unlimited number of competitors. Anybody with a Flip camera is your competition. What makes it even worse is that YouTube is willing to subsidize the cost of your bandwidth. So anybody can create and distribute for free basically, but the real cost is marketing. And that’s always the big cost – how do you stand out and what’s the cost of standing out? And there’s no limit to that cost. – Mark Cuban • One of the Internet’s strengths is its ability to help consumers find the right needle in a digital haystack of data. – Jared Sandberg • One of the myths about the Internet of Things is that companies have all the data they need, but their real challenge is making sense of it. In reality, the cost of collecting some kinds of data remains too high, the quality of the data isn’t always good enough, and it remains difficult to integrate multiple data sources. – Chris Murphy • One of the things I like about making stuff in the age of the Internet, is that people make stuff in response to it. You can see people respond to your work visually or musically or with writing.- John Green • One of the things that I realized when I left office was that in the 1990’s citizens across the world applied more power than they had ever had, as compared with the government, because of more people living under democracies than dictatorships for the first time, the power of the internet, which the young Chinese used to basically change China’s policy on the SARS epidemic, and shut it down, and because of the rise in non-governmental organizations like my foundation. – William J. Clinton • One of the wonderful things about Internet is its like a salon. It brings people together from different intellectual walks of life. – Eric Kandel • People are mostly focused on defending the computers on the Internet, and there’s been surprisingly little attention to defending the Internet itself as a communications medium. And I think we probably do need to pay some more attention to that, because it’s actually kind of fragile.- Danny Hillis • People depend on the Open Internet to connect and communicate with each other freely. Voters need it to inform themselves before casting ballots. Without prompt corrective action by the Commission to reclassify broadband, this awful ruling will serve as a sorry memorial to the corporate abrogation of free speech. – Michael Copps • People over the age of thirty were born before the digital revolution really started. We’ve learned to use digital technology-laptops, cameras, personal digital assistants, the Internet-as adults, and it has been something like learning a foreign language. Most of us are okay, and some are even expert. We do e-mails and PowerPoint, surf the Internet, and feel we’re at the cutting edge. But compared to most people under thirty and certainly under twenty, we are fumbling amateurs. People of that age were born after the digital revolution began. They learned to speak digital as a mother tongue. – Ken Robinson • People wouldn’t go on Facebook unless they wanted to share with groups of people. But there is this perception that you have been on a course to push people’s information where it’s visible across the Internet unless they do a bunch of stuff. – Walt Mossberg • Privacy is not an option, and it shouldn’t be the price we accept for just getting on the Internet. – Gary Kovacs • Reddit is not a public utility or a public square; its a privately owned space on the Internet. – John Scalzi • Science fiction does not remain fiction for long. And certainly not on the Internet. – Vinton Cerf • Social media and the Internet haven’t changed our capacity for social interaction any more than the Internet has changed our ability to be in love or our basic propensity to violence, because those are such fundamental human attributes. – Nicholas A. Christakis • Some jerk infected the Internet with an outright lie. It shows how easy it is to do and how credulous people are. – Kurt Vonnegut • Thanks is part to our education system, we tend to think that we’re smarter than the stupid guys in funny wigs who came before us. But that’s because we are mistaking technology, progress, and access to information for intelligence. We think that because we know how to use iPhones (but not build them), browse the Internet (but not understand how it works), and use Google (but not really know anything), our educational system is working just great. By the same token, we think that those dumb aristocrats who used horses to get around and didn’t have electricity were neanderthals. – Glenn Beck • That is, we’re into a whole new world with the Internet, and whenever we sort of cross another plateau in our development, there are those who seek to take advantage of it. So this is a replay of things that have happened throughout our history. – William J. Clinton • The American revolutionaries believed in the power of the word. But they had only word of mouth and the printing press. We have the Internet. – Robert Darnton • The artistic desire reveals itself in dark form – in karaoke bars [or] trolling on the Internet. – Young-Ha Kim • The big change, the really radical change in communication, was in the late 19th century. The shift from sailing ships to telegraph is astronomical. Everything since then has been small increments, including the internet. – Noam Chomsky • The big downside to the global village that the Internet has created is that nothing has time to grow out of the public gaze and, even more dangerous, whatever your personal interests might be, there will always be someone somewhere to provide validation and encouragement. – Derek Ridgers • The boom was healthy too, even with its excesses. Because what this incredible valuation craze did was draw untold sums of billions of dollars into building the Internet infrastructure. The hundreds of billions of dollars that got invested in telecommunications, for example. – Andy Grove • The constant buzz and pressure and noise and static of the Internet, and the way it makes young people feel makes it difficult to grow up and develop the way one might want to. – Ethan Hawke • The day I made that statement, about the inventing the internet, I was tired because I’d been up all night inventing the Camcorder. – Al Gore • The Internet “browser”… is the piece of software that puts a message on your computer screen informing you that the Internet is currently busy and you should try again later. – Dave Barry • The Internet has been the most fundamental change during my lifetime and for hundreds of years. Someone the other day said, “It’s the biggest thing since Gutenberg,” and then someone else said “No, it’s the biggest thing since the invention of writing.”- Rupert Murdoch • The Internet has been the most fundamental change during my lifetime and for hundreds of years. – Rupert Murdoch • The Internet has really democratized ideas. There are no real gatekeepers any more, because if you have a great idea, and you put it online, people will find it and it will get in front of who it needs to get in front of. – Justin Halpern • The Internet is a giant international network of intelligent, informed computer enthusiasts, by which I mean, “people without lives.” We don’t care. We have each other. – Dave Barry • The Internet is a giant international network of intelligent, informed computer enthusiasts, by which I mean, “people without lives.” We don’t care. We have each other…. While you are destroying your mind watching the worthless, brain-rotting drivel on TV, we on the Internet are exchanging, freely and openly, the most settings, uninhibited, intimate and, yes, shocking details about our “CONFIG.SYS.” – Dave Barry • The Internet is a telephone system that’s gotten uppity. – Clifford Stoll • The Internet is a very intimate entertainment experience. I’m in my own apartment talking to people, and I want them to feel like they’re with me in my apartment. So if I’m listening to them and taking ideas from them and being honest with how I’m feeling, it resonates even more that we’re having a real, actual conversation. – Grace Helbig • The Internet is all about accessing entertainment. Realistically, 50 to 80 percent of all traffic is people downloading stuff for free. If you can turn that huge market share into something that you can monetize, even if it is just with ads, you will end up making more money than with all other revenue streams combined. – Kim Dotcom • The internet is an amazing medium for languages. – David Crystal • The Internet is becoming the town square for the global village of tomorrow. – Bill Gates • The Internet is disrupting every media industry…people can complain about that, but complaining is not a strategy. And Amazon is not happening to book selling, the future is happening to book selling. – Jeff Bezos • The Internet is just a world passing around notes in a classroom. – Jon Stewart • The Internet is like a gold-rush; the only people making money are those who sell the pans. – Will Hobbs • The Internet is like alcohol in some sense. It accentuates what you would do anyway. If you want to be a loner, you can be more alone. If you want to connect, it makes it easier to connect. – Esther Dyson • The Internet is merely a new means of communication, that’s all it is. It serves the purpose of getting information, which it is fantastic at. I mean, I live by the Internet in terms of research and it’s incredible – there’s nothing that you can’t find out about. It’s not stopped me going to bookshops but I must say that I don’t go into as many because any book I want. – David Bowie • The internet is necessarily public. It can be filtered-public or censored-public, but it necessarily has to be open and available. – John Green • The Internet is the first thing that humanity has built that humanity doesn’t understand, the largest experiment in anarchy that we have ever had. – Eric Schmidt • The Internet is the great equalizer.The technology which emanated from the Silicon Valley of California has more potential to ameliorate social inequality than any development in the history of the world, including the industrial revolution. – Benazir Bhutto • The Internet is the greatest thing that ever happened to the entertainment industry. – Michael Ovitz • The Internet is the most important single development in the history of human communication since the invention of call waiting. – Dave Barry • The internet makes everything not enough. – Alec Sulkin • The Internet nowadays is all sensationalism, and it’s just terrifying when you’re actually experiencing it as a person.- Bradford Cox • The Internet seems like a safe house for the opposite mentality, for cynics and for jerks and for people who want to lash out. And it’s a valid thing. It’s a valid forum and I’m not going say that they aren’t valid feelings. But it’s sad. Considering the potential that something like the Internet, that connects so many people, has for good. I think it’s sad that it’s used so often for nothing but unfounded, overzealous negativity. – Chris Gethard • The Internet shapes my life and work so completely that I couldn’t imagine living without it. – Nicola Formichetti • The Internet was done so well that most people think of it as a natural resource like the Pacific Ocean, rather than something that was man-made. When was the last time a technology with a scale like that was so error-free? The Web, in comparison, is a joke. The Web was done by amateurs. – Alan Kay • The Internet will help achieve “friction free capitalism” by putting buyer and seller in direct contact and providing more information to both about each other. – Bill Gates • The Internet, I’m trying to point out, is a kooks’ paradise. Anybody with a keyboard and a modem can spread fear, loathing, and just plain asinine ideas among hundreds of thousands of people with the click of a button. Discouraging, but true. – David F. Emery • The Internet, of course, is more than a place to find pictures of people having sex with dogs. – Philip Elmer-DeWitt • The Internet, too, has strong attributes of a public good, and has undermined the “private good” attributes of old media. Internet service providers obviously can exclude people, but the actual content -the values, the ideas- can be shared with no loss of value for the consumer. It is also extremely inexpensive and easy to share material. Sharing is built into the culture and practices of the Web and has made it difficult for the subscription model to be effective. – Robert Waterman McChesney • The Internet]is a series of tubes. And if you don’t understand, those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and it’s going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.- Theodore Stevens • The Internets distinct configuration may have made cyberattacks easy to launch, but it has also kindled the flame of freedom. – Jonathan Zittrain • The internet’s perfect for all manner of things, but productive discussion ain’t one of them. It provides scant room for debate and infinite opportunities for fruitless point-scoring: the heady combination of perceived anonymity, gestated responses, random heckling and a notional “live audience” quickly conspire to create a “perfect storm” of perpetual bickering. – Charlie Brooker • The key is really just saying my brain isn’t big enough to figure out why everything happens. It would be like an ant trying to understand the internet. – Rick Warren • The kind of environment that we developed Google in, the reason that we were able to develop a search engine, is the web was so open. Once you get too many rules, that will stifle innovation. – Sergey Brin • The most important thing for people to understand is that the basic rule that people have a right to send information over the Internet – even when they are using a wireless device – is part of the framework. – Julius Genachowski • The new information technology… Internet and e-mail… have practically eliminated the physical costs of communications. – Peter Drucker • The old internet is shrinking and being replaced by walled gardens over which Google’s crawlers can’t climb. – John Battelle • The penetration of society by the Internet and the penetration of the Internet by society is the best thing that has ever happened to global human civilisation. – Julian Assange • The remarkable social impact and economic success of the Internet is in many ways directly attributable to the architectural characteristics that were part of its design. The Internet was designed with no gatekeepers over new content or services. – Vinton Cerf • The screen is a window through which one sees a virtual world. The challenge is to make that world look real, act real, sound real, feel real. – Ivan Sutherland • The Semantic Web is not a separate Web but an extension of the current one, in which information is given well-defined meaning, better enabling computers and people to work in cooperation.- Tim Berners-Lee • The serialization through the Internet or through digital portals, means of ways of communicating, and I think that’s great. – Keanu Reeves • The web site and the Internet are a whole new ball game. – Johnny Ramistella • The whole, ‘Is the internet a good thing or a bad thing’? We’re done with that. It’s just a thing. How to maximise its civic value, its public good – that’s the really big challenge. – Clay Shirky • The worst and the best that the internet ever did was give everybody a voice. – Simon Pegg • There are two things in particular that it [the computer industry] failed to foresee: one was the coming of the Internet(…); the other was the fact that the century would end. – Douglas Adams • There is a very personal price to public humiliation, and the growth of the Internet has jacked up that price. – Monica Lewinsky • There was more data transmitted over the Internet in 2010 than the entire history of the Internet through 2009. – Ben Parr • There’s no real organised body, … so through the internet people have spread their videos, spread photos, and spread word of a new urban movement. – Chris Hayes • Think about this: It was illegal for most people to connect to the internet before 1992.- Steve Case • Thousands of people were producing new Web sites every day. We were just trying to take all that stuff and organize it to make it useful. – David Filo • To get a big company moving fast, especially on a many-headed opportunity like the Internet, you have to have hundreds of people participating and coming up with ideas. – Bill Gates • To seek Truth is automatically a calling for the innate dissident and the subversive; how many are willing to give up safety and security for the perilous life of the spiritual revolutionary? How many are willing to truly learn that their own cherished concepts are wrong? Striking provocative or mysterious poses in the safety of Internet [social media] is far easier than taking the risks involved in the hard work of genuine initiation. – Zeena Schreck • Today with technological advancement, with the Internet, with planes, with the rate at which we travel – even if you wanted, you cannot hide from the rest of the world. And whether you like it or not, you are part of this global marketplace, and so you might as well understand it, you might as well embrace it, because even if you hide, it will find you. – • Together with the rise of the internet, September 11 and its aftermath has changed most of our lives. – Hedi Slimane • Trade on the Internet is becoming very widespread. The problem is our laws have not caught up with electronic commerce. – Susan Bysiewicz • Turns out, theres not a lot of information about pickles on the Internet. – Brian Posehn • US has to be able to rely on a safe and interconnected internet in order to compete with other countries. – Edward Snowden • US spend more on research and development than the other countries, so we shouldn’t be making the internet a more hostile, a more aggressive territory. – Edward Snowden • Use the Internet to get off the Internet! – Scott Heiferman • Video for the Internet has become a testing ground for mediums that actually have revenue. – Mark Cuban • We are excited about Internet access in general. With better access to the Internet, people do more searches. – Larry Page • We believe we’re moving out of the Ice Age, the Iron Age, the Industrial Age, the Information Age, to the participation age. You get on the Net and you do stuff. You IM (instant message), you blog, you take pictures, you publish, you podcast, you transact, you distance learn, you telemedicine. You are participating on the Internet, not just viewing stuff. We build the infrastructure that goes in the data center that facilitates the participation age. We build that big friggin’ Webtone switch. It has security, directory, identity, privacy, storage, compute, the whole Web services stack. – Scott McNealy • We didn’t know the importance of home computers before the Internet. We had them mostly for fun, then the Internet came along and was enabled by all the PCs out there. – Burt Rutan • We have a strong and credible broadband policy because the man who has devised it, the man who will implement it virtually invented the Internet in this country. – Tony Abbott • We must also promote global access to the Internet. We need to bridge the digital divide not just within our country. But among countries. Only by giving people around the world access to this technology can they tap into the potential. Of the information age. – Al Gore • We’re into tech stuff, gadgets, phones, video games. We’ll treat a video game premiere like a movie premiere. I’m just going to be honest with what I like and what I do. What I enjoy. We’re not going to hide the fact that people are on the Internet all day. I think a lot of shows don’t really mention that. – Jimmy Fallon • What we need is a plan B … independent of the Internet. [It] doesn’t necessarily have to have the performance of the Internet, but the police department has to be able to call up the fire department. – Danny Hillis • What, exactly, is the internet? Basically it is a global network exchanging digitized data in such a way that any computer, anywhere, that is equipped with a device called a ‘modem’, can make a noise like a duck choking on a kazoo – Dave Barry • When Bill Clinton assembled the top minds of the nation to discuss the economy in 1992, no one mentioned the Internet. – David Leonhardt • When people conceptualize a cyber-attack, they do tend to think about parts of the critical infrastructure like power plants, water supplies, and similar sort of heavy infrastructure, critical infrastructure areas. And they could be hit, as long as they’re network connected, as long as they have some kind of systems that interact with them that could be manipulated from internet connection. – Edward Snowden • When the Internet first came into public use, it was hailed as a liberation from conformity, a floating world ruled by passion, creativity, innovation and freedom of information. When it was hijacked first by advertising and then by commerce, it seemed like it had been fully co-opted and brought into line with human greed and ambition. – Neil Strauss • When you find yourself on the Internet when you’re supposed to be writing, you’ve already lost. It’s even beyond procrastination when you end up on the Internet. – Noah Baumbach • When you get a small group of fans who hate something, it becomes compounded by the internet. The press picks up the internet like it’s a source. They don’t realise it is just one person typing out their opinion. – George Lucas • When you make the claim that something on the Internet is going to be good for democracy, you often [hear], ‘Are you talking about the thing with the singing cats?’ – Clay Shirky • When you use any kind of internet based capability, any kind of electronic capability, to cause damage to a private entity or a foreign nation or a foreign actor, these are potential acts of war. – Edward Snowden • Who needs evidence when you’ve got the Internet? – Christopher Buckley • Will the highways on the Internet become more few? – George W. Bush • With the development of the Internet…we are in the middle of the most transforming technological event since the capture of fire. I used to think that it was just the biggest thing since Gutenberg, but now I think you have to go back farther. – John Perry Barlow • With YouTube – with the Internet in general – you have information overload. The people who dont necessarily get credit are the curators. – Chad Hurley • You can always find a stray negative comment on the Internet. It’s like everybody loves to put negative comments on the Internet under the cloak of anonymity. – John Legend • You can go back to tulip bulbs in Holland 400 years ago. The human beings going through combinations of fear and greed and all of that sort of thing, their behavior can lead to bubbles. And it may have had and Internet bubble at one time, you’ve had a farm bubble, farmland bubble in the Midwest which resulted in all kinds of tragedy in the early ’80s. – Howard Warren Buffett • You could have these crazy Internet valuations in the late 1990s, but they prove themselves out in the market. The next day they were selling for more than they were the day before, and people said, you know, you’re crazy if you don’t get in on this. So it’s very human. – Howard Warren Buffett • You have to be very clear with yourself about how you’re going to spend your time. When a child is at school or napping, you need to realize that this is your writing time and you don’t spend it surfing the Internet or reading. – Elizabeth Hoyt • You spend money on Internet connection for your employees. Why not spend money on the energy that fuels their brains? – Shawn Achor • Younger feminists actually care about stuff that came before them, the same way that I totally cared about and loved and felt so lucky to have access to the feminism that came before me. To have younger people take what me and my friends have done, and to say ‘We have access to that, but we’re going to put that through our own Internet generation filter and we’re going to make it into something that speaks to us and is a lot smarter.’ – Kathleen Hanna
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Disability is not a fashion statement, and don't letKylie Jennerconvince you otherwise.
The young socialite and reality TV star posed recently forInterviewmagazine in highly sexualized positions in a wheelchair painted gold for extra glam. Given the extreme rarity of fashion editorials featuring actual disabled people, theres something particularly galling about seeing a nondisabled person play disability dressup for sheer novelty, with the mobility device appearing as a prop and little more. Disabled people argue that this kind of imagery is incredibly damagingand theyre not wrong.
The entire shoot positions Jenner much like a plastic mannequin, aging her up from her 18 years, slapping fetish clothing on her and draping her like a doll across sets and scenery.
Like other editorials in Interview, its designed to be striking and provocative. Ascommentators at Nylon point out, the decision to use a wheelchair as a prop isnt new, and it was undoubtedly deliberately calculated to spark controversy on an Internet attuned to problematic pop culture.
Wheelchair users in the real world typically live invisibly, ignored by the people around them and regarded as objects of fear; children stare at them while adults go to great lengths to pretend they dont exist. The wheelchair becomes an instrument of infantalization, lying between the user and full engagement with public life, and inaccessibility exacerbates the problem by keeping many wheelchair users out of view. Between endless stairs, tiny bathroom stalls, narrow doorways and other careless obstacles, navigating the world in a wheelchair is extremely challenging.
This right here is why I don't rate Kylie Jenner. A gold wheelchair? Disability isn't a glamorous fad. pic.twitter.com/5kpKgxdtPq
zara (@zaraisfierce) December 1, 2015
NEWSFLASH for @KylieJenner & @InterviewMag: A wheelchair is not an accessory. pic.twitter.com/hFBaq2N1yb
Choupette Lagerfeld (@ChoupettesDiary) December 1, 2015
For Jenner, however, the wheelchair was just a prop used for a few hours in a provocative photoshoot. The images create a strange sexualized tensionpeople are uncomfortable with viewing people who use wheelchairs for mobility as people who have sexualitiesand they also reduce Jenner to a doll lying uselessly in the chair, the stereotype of the invalid waiting to be rescued by a nondisabled person. With an actual disabled model, an editorial of this nature could make a powerful statement, but with a nondisabled woman, it leaves a very sour taste.
The disabled community aren't fighting social stigmas just so kylie jenner can use a wheelchair to look more edgy https://t.co/qQN1FJK5gt
basic brownie (@polypolarbear) December 1, 2015
The idea that Kylie Jenner in a wheelchair is seen as glamorous yet disabled people that use wheelchairs struggle to find modelling work...
Steph Bauble (@stephhboal) December 1, 2015
For Jenner, however, the wheelchair was just a prop used for a few hours in a provocative photoshoot.
Jenners appropriation of the disabled experience was particularly striking in light of her #IAmMoreThan anti-bullying campaign and her recent post on Instagram of a disabled participant who wrote about being more than her wheelchair. Her recognition of the stigma faced by wheelchair users stands in stark contrast to the photo shoot, suggesting that the young celebrity hasnt learned much from her own hashtag.
Thank you for your words @audreytheartist #repost "#iammorethan my wheelchair I have been doing really great lately and I thought it was time to share my piece of mind with you guys. 2015 has been one hell of a ride, and I am proud of me ; worked so far with amazing people, kept drawing when I couldn't for months because of the car accident I had last year, and also graduated. I left my comfort zone many, many times this year and I kept going, my faith in brighter days never faltering. Being different physically is complicated, you have to deal with loads of shits, and still keep smiling. I want to say to anyone who feels different, lonely or just down, #keepgoing. You never know what tomorrow is made of, in good or bad, so please, keep going and #nevergiveup. Life is weird, so are we, and that's what is #magical. I decided to embrace my flaws a long time ago, and I never regretted once that decision. I'm a young artist, and once again here, it's hard being different because, judgments ("you can draw with your hands?") but it's worth it. I believe one day, I will work for #Sia, making her cds covers, and even make exhibitions in San Fran, Amsterdam and Tokyo. In meantime I'm gonna build my empire, one drawing per day. And #keepsmiling because life is worth living no matter what. I love life. Do you?#audreytheartist @kyliejenner"
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Critics like filmmaker Dominick Evans pointed out that while the wheelchair is used in the shoot as a heavy-handed metaphor for constraint, limitations and feeling trapped in the fishbowl of public life, many wheelchair users have a very different relationship with their mobility aids. Instead of being a symbol of inability, the wheelchair becomes a force for liberationsomething that frees, rather than hinders, the user.
The ridiculous @KylieJenner tries to profit off the misconception "wheelchair bound" means we're helpless...my wheelchair is my FREEDOM
Dominick Evans (@dominickevans) December 1, 2015
Jenners shoot, turning disability into a fashion accessory instead of a lived experience, spoke to the lowest common denominator in both fashion and social attitudes about disability. (Lest one think that this is a slipup for Jenner, look to her decisions to pose in blackface and with dreadlocks for other fashion editorials; Jenner, like many others, thinks little of the lives she appropriates to look fashionable.)
Wheelchair users in the real world typically live invisibly, ignored by the people around them and regarded as objects of fear.
In a non-apology apology, Interview tells critics that its intention was certainly not to offend anyone. But this isnt just about perceived personal offense. Its also about the perpetuation of social attitudes that harm an entire community, and this is why activists are speaking out against it.
Fashion editorials are often about dressing up, entering a fantasy world and creating something larger than the subject. In this case, however, Jenner tapped into cultural anxieties and attitudes about disability for the provocation value, and in so doing, directly harmed actual disabled people who deal with those attitudes long after she swings her feet off the footrests and leaves the set.
Disability advocates are right to be angry. Now well see if their concerns are taken seriously, or if theyre just dismissed as part of the Internet outrage machine.
S.E. Smith is a writer, editor, and agitator who serves as the social justice editor for xoJane and has been published in theGuardianand Salon, along with several anthologies.
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To honor International Womens Day, President Donald Trump tweeted Wednesday about his tremendous respect for women and celebrated the critical role of women here in America &around the world.
Trumps tweets were simple, elegant and dare we say presidential.But his polished words definitely werent fooling author and feministJ.K. Rowling.
Hours after POTUS sent off his International Womens Day tweets, Rowling fired back at Trump using his own words against him. The Harry Potter author quoted Trumps tweet from that morning along with another, more memorable quote of his. This quote was more candid and appeared to indicate what Trump really thinks of women.
I did try and fuck her. She was married. I moved on her like a bitch, a black-and-gold poster read, quoting a 2005 recording of Trump during the filming of Access Hollywood.
Im automatically attracted to beautiful. … I just start kissing them. Its like a magnet. … I dont even wait, read the poster. And when youre a star they let you do it. … Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.
At the bottom of the poster was a reminder of the stark reality we live in: The quote was attributed to The President of the United States.
Rowling wasnt the only person who called out Trumps hypocrisy on the womens day.
The presidents tweet received hundreds of replies from people who pointed out more of his misogynistic behavior, his anti-abortion executive order and the fact that his administration has separated mothers from their families through deportations.
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Back in 1984, the Supreme Court ruled in favor of a huge oil company in a landmark case laying out how much deference courts should give to a federal agencys interpretation of the laws it enforces. The answer in nonlegal terms was a lot.
Ironically, that meant a major environmental group lost to President Ronald Reagans more conservative Environmental Protection Agency.
Some three decades later, the environmentalists are the ones vigorously defending the legal doctrine that is based on Chevron U.S.A. v. Natural Resources Defense Council. And the leading critic of so-called Chevron deference is Judge Neil Gorsuch, President Donald Trumps Supreme Court nominee and a man whose mother ran the EPA when the Chevron case first went to court.
Eliminating the Chevron doctrine would be a radical move today. Its a cornerstone of U.S. administrative law, so widely accepted that it was endorsed by the very conservative Justice Antonin Scalia (the man whose Supreme Court seat Gorsuch is set to take over).
The Supreme Courts ruling, written by then-Justice John Paul Stevens for a unanimous court, directs judges to respect an agencys interpretations of those laws its in charge of administering where Congress meaning in writing the law is not clear.Nixing the doctrine would give judges more leeway to second-guess agencies rules.
Environmental groups argue, in particular, that undoing Chevron deference would cripple the federal governments ability to enforce rules against pollution, even long after Trump leaves the White House. EPA regulations are based on extensive analysis of science to inform the legal standards set by Congress.
If you abandon agency deference, it really means that you want to ignore scientific and technical analysis and evidence in policymaking, Yogin Kothari, a Washington representative with the nonprofit Union of Concerned Scientists, told The Huffington Post.
The idea of undoing Chevron deference is a recipe for stymying science-based safeguards for public health, safety and the environment, he added. Chevron deference allows us to actually ensure that we dont have judges overriding scientific expertise and substituting their own views with limited information.
Gorsuch doesnt see it quite that way.
The Supreme Court nominee, who currently sits on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit,made his views clear in August in an immigration case calledGutierrez-Brizuela v. Lynch. In a concurring opinion, Gorsuch wrote, [T]he fact is Chevron permit[s] executive bureaucracies to swallow huge amounts of core judicial and legislative power and concentrate federal power in a way that seems more than a little difficult to square with the Constitution of the framers design.
In other words, Gorsuch said, federal agencies have too much unfettered power.
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Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch looks at a landscape painting in Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s Washington office as he arrives for their meeting on Feb. 6.
Although the 10th Circuit case was not about the EPA, Trump and his supporters in Congress would clearly apply that criticism to the environmental agency.
Trump put Myron Ebell, a once-fringe conspiracy theorist who rejects the widely accepted science on manmade global warming, in charge of the EPA transition team. He nominated Oklahoma Attorney General Scott Pruitt, who made his reputation suing the EPA 13 times, to lead the agency. A policy memo leaked to Axios outlined proposed cuts to the EPAs budget, including slashing hundreds of millions from grants to states and Native American tribes, climate programs, and environmental programs and management. Indeed, some environmental researchers took the memo as evidence that Trump wants to permanently cripple the EPA.Inside EPAreported that the administration was also planning to slash the agencys enforcement division.
At least two of the presidents strongest supporters in Congress seem to be on board with any anti-EPA push. Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Texas) held a hearing last week on Making EPA Great Again, at which three of his four witnesses were a coal lawyer, a chemical industry lobbyist and a libertarian scholar who recently accused the agency of regulatory terrorism. Meanwhile, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) introduced a billto completely abolish the EPA by the end of next year.
Although she led the EPA, Gorsuchs mother, the late Anne Gorsuch Burford,might well have agreed with the idea that the agency needs to be restrained. (She died in 2004.)
During her nearly two-year tenure at the EPA, described by The Washington Post as tumultuous, Burford gutted the budget, coddled the chemical industry, purged scientists from the agencys ranks and oversaw a sharp drop in lawsuits against polluters. Sheresigned in March 1983 (two months before the Supreme Court agreed to hearthe Chevron case) amid what some have calledthe worst scandal in the history of the Environmental Protection Agency. The opprobrium erupted after Burford refused to hand over documents relating to her handling of the $1.6 billion toxic waste Superfund. She was the first federal agency director to be held in contempt of Congress.
But environmental groups argue that Americans need the federal government to play a strong role in protecting the environment.
Whether Republicans like it or not, we live in a society that has a lot of administrative agencies trying to provide safeguards against all kinds of things, not just environmental, but consumer protection, labor and more, Patrick Gallagher, legal director for the Sierra Club, told HuffPost. This regulatory state arose over many decades, including following the Great Depression, because of a need to protect common people from the excesses of corporate greed, technology and industrialization.
Still, Gorsuchs skepticism of executive power could become a check on Trump as well. Gorsuch called the presidents attacks on a federal judge who had blocked his travel ban disheartening and demoralizing, in what may be the first case of a Supreme Court nominee publicly criticizing the White House.
I would imagine, based on Gorsuchs history and previous opinions, that he might strike down some of this executive power Trump is exercising right now, said David Kemp, a lawyer at the legal information site Justia. The [Gutierrez-Brizuela v. Lynch] opinion exalts judicial independence and separation of powers and condemns executive overreach. He might then stand up to executive overreach, even by President Trump.
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