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#so she does not have any romantic attraction to him and esp not when hes a dragon
sipsteainanxiety · 1 year
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i was thinking abt how i portray reader & her feelings in holding out and tbh she isnt rly. in love with bkg (yet) LOL. like… he’s a dragon… if anything bkg is the one in love with her 😋 i made her interactions w him v platonic in ch1-2 and things only shifted in ch3 after the basilisk thing bc it made bkg realize how down bad he was heehee. but only for bkg. reader’s still in her own lane. 💪 its the one sided pining okay
but like. she’s still emotionally attached to him. cuz she was the only one who really KNEW knew him—him, a dragon, that has not been seen for centuries in the human realm. it would make anyone feel special, i think. and she still grew close to him over the months they spent together… enough to form a friendship. so its only natural for her to be distraught when he leaves 🥺 and for her to miss him 🥺
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spacenintendogs · 11 months
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A bit related to your httyd pride requests but
What are your headcanons about how the httyd beans identify? Your takes are always the best <333
*spits into hands and rubs them together*
alright lads i'm just doing this for the main 6 dragon riders to keep it simple SO HERE WE GO!! explanations/further details under the read more!
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hiccup outwardly says that he is heterosexual/heteroromantic, however he is curious & keeps those thoughts more to himself outside of confiding in astrid, esp bc most of his curiosity is from fishlegs & maybe down the line he'll say he's bi or pan but not right now. also says he's a cisman but if someone calls him "they" he's not mad abt it (still feels like a man tho)
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astrid is def bi!!!!!! the way she has chemistry with everybody at some point but her attraction to hiccup & heather is soooooooooooooo.... bi.... she's bi!! it takes her a while to come to terms with it bc it doesn't feel like it's "correct" but she accepts it & is happier for it!! also she is cis & does mind if someone refers to her as "they/them" but isn't going to be rude abt it. she gets it.
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ruffnut is the most confident & has no issues exploring her sexuality & identity. she prefers the pansexual label & likes using she & they for pronouns. she's also polyamorous. life's too short & she's going to just go with it & have a good time!!! also the one who wants to help the others in exploring what they can do & who they can be!!
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fishlegs is bi/pan!! (heather & hiccup rlly just get ppl's gears going, huh?) he uses he/him most of the time but do he's agender & wants to use neopronouns too & only does so with hiccup bc xe's nervous to tell the others even tho they'd be w/e abt it. he's cool with he/him tho. any pronouns that aren't she/her are cool! (neopronouns used most often are xe/xem)
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snotlout is bisexual. bicon. he is also a trans man baybeeeee!!!! he transitioned at a young age & literally no one cared abt it. spitelout is actually his no. 1. supporter in this regard & snotlout holds that very dearly. however sometimes snotlout does feel a draw to being more feminine & this bothers him bc he feels like he's transitioned to being a man why does he feel this way?? it bothers him that sometimes he still wants to be feminine (does not like using they/them for himself... but perhaps bigender...)
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tuffnut 2 me says demisexual biromantic... i don't think he's searching to be with anyone, but that doesn't mean nothing happens when he gets close with someone. he goes with the flow & feels sexual attraction after he has an emotional bond. he's willing to romantically be with anyone if it happens, too. also non-binary like ruff but prefers he/they. once again, life is too short & he's more willing to openly explore that part of him compared to the others.
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sluttywonwoo · 6 months
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in IOU, does jisung have any romantic feelings for the OC? his reaction keeps me wondering, but of course it could all be very platonic as well.
so for me, he doesn’t. it’s alluded to just in the scope of how difficult it can be to navigate friendships with the opposite sex (and to add a little more tension on top of everything you know me) but it can be up to reader interpretation as well. i went back and forth about that but ultimately decided that it was messy enough without the love triangle and i just couldn’t bring myself to break the bff’s heart like that. so for me, they never had real romantic feelings for each other. you could argue attraction for sure, esp with how i wrote the earlier chapters, but it was always meant to be just friendship
his reaction is so strong because he feels like the one thing he thought his older brother couldn’t take from him was, in his eyes, taken. he went to extremes to distance himself from minho: moving to another country for school, vetting potential friends to make sure they had not interest in k-pop, etc… now he feels like it was all for nothing… that he has nothing that’s well and truly his (aside from his degree, but even that his brother is helping pay for). it’s not really fair of jisung to view it so black and white— or for him to be possessive of reader because she isn’t an object but when it comes to minho, his emotions tend to cloud his judgement.
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pinkprettycure · 6 months
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I guess in regards to Liam's attraction to others though since it would be that he would only feel anything after a strong enough bond, getting to see that in action would be more when he's either, well for one, the main character. So I guess Mech Pilot!Liam would be more blatant about it, or just whenever another pairing is explored.
Like i think Zacharie or Ethan are pretty viable love interests for him where it might be more obvious that he wouldnt really have had much attraction to them yet but it could happen, while Alex is one where I think... if he liked Alex he might not know and ignored it? Like him and Alex are already really close so i don't know if he'd really think much of it esp when liking guys is a foreign concept to him and also so is having friends so what the hell does he know about any of this
Clover is a romantic comedy arranged marriage story where the two of them learn to like eachother and Liam is able see how cute Clover is after a lot of time with her but its kind of hard to work with this when Clover keeps ragging on him constantly. I think Liam has to die so Clover realizes she had come to like him. but its still a comedy so he's not dead and clover delightfully goes back to the status quo
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horizon-verizon · 5 months
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SnowBaird vs AlysxAemond
Romantic feelings are also not defined by the moral soundness of one or more characters nor the longevity of the relationship of one or more characters but by the existence of the desire for a kind of intimacy, attraction, and some form of excitement from contact of any kind.
So yes, Snow loved LG; love doesn't have to be pure to be love--it's weird to suppose that every sociopath or psychopath or whatever is incapable of love when we see evidence to the contrary.
To argue that Snow didn't love LG in some way (even if it wasn't the sort of love that would sustain them or was pure) is to undermine the train of this entire story: how does Snow falling in love vs wanting power over as many people--esp District--as possible contextualize his eventual decision to devote himself utterly to the pursuit of total power & control? What was that journey?
So what do I like abt SnowBaird in the original story, even with Snow being what he is?
The emotional ache from it being a doomed love, a doomed relationship bc:
of the two's oppositional values, desires, etc coupled w/their simultaneous desire for each other due to Snow's self-deception, hatred, unrelenting performance of affability or care, and his constant excuses
Snow was never going to let go of having political power and status and it shows in him being inside Nature w/Lucy Gray, i.e., total freedom and Nature out of oppressive human grip
LG unknowingly was in the middle of giving some of her trust to him, but Snow looked at her performance-to-survive as her playing the exact same murderous, duplicitous games as him bc he can't and will not contemplate anything else (Alright, I'm bad but you're nor prize either)
It's the dramatic irony of it all.
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Similarities
Even though we don't have access to Aemond's thoughts as we do Snow and Aemond definitely are not poor pretending to be still rich, the two men-boys share a trope of sociopathic male youth falling in love with someone of a marginalized class (lower-classed/bastards vs nomad/low-classed/District).
Alys and LG have similar plights of needing to put on some sort of performance to survive & both need to use a man who has more privilege than them. The men are/have both used their female lovers in some self-interested way: Aemond-Alys through her visions ("she sees much and more, my alys."); Snow-Lucy Gray through her singing in the Games and giving public attention to Snow. Both men are very possessive of their lovers.
Snow especially loves LG for being a person so utterly unlike what he's learned to expect from both Capitol & District people.
He also developed the feeling of her being "his", and partially saw her as a sort of an exotic project meant to reflect back on himself. She first was the prime tool for his own rise through the Games, became a sort of obsession, and finally, she was an inconvenience & a perceived, real threat to that political advancement. Snow saw LG as this blank-slate being (who has no lineage like him) he could mold into what he wanted until she became a "problem" getting what he wanted, also after he lost the game he had just won with her win. Aemond also probably loved Alys for how much use he got of her plus how her being his war prize signaled his military prowess--he "won" her and she proved to be unlike what he thought about bastards and pretty much anyone else he ever encountered or thought was possible.
Lucy Gray and Alys, while not pick-mes nor NLOGs, are still marvels in of themselves not just to Snow or Aemond but to others, and only marvels can attract men like these. Not because these men are paragons of human beings and like attracts like but because being treated as paragons or impressive partially because they both have admired skills/behaviors for the society they each live in (Snow, genteelness & charm; Aemond, the sword, and ferocity) AND they thus see themselves as paragons/inevitable paragons and will accept nothing less of themselves. Others thus bore them or disgust them if they aren't family.
Both women are not totally a part of the main known group (Alys the Strongs and LG both the District & Capitol) and are outcasts. Both are smart & reportedly beautiful with their own singular talents. Both attracted their lovers (and the readers/audience) through a kind of mysteriousness, the different perspectives they bring, and their ability to both survive much of anything and stand out as individuals. Both women are also very strong mentally, but wouldn't be classed as warriors per se. They fit this sort of Disney!Esmeralda trope, except less romanticized--that trope is very much male gazey.
Both men appear to explain away their attraction to their female lovers by thinking she's fundamentally "different", whether from bastards or district. Bastards are seen as inherently untrustworthy, lesser people bc they came from illicit passion rather than the conscientious "duty" of marriage, so they're presented as natural threats to the hierarchical system; he describes district people are literally described as bloodthirsty, reckless animals that need to be controlled for the Capitol citizens to survive and despite going to 12 and seeing for himself how untrue this is, even doubling down about them fighting in the dark (#5 below)
Snow & Aemond have literal or symbolic maternal figures who instill their prejudiced beliefs or obsessions with power-seeking and self-preservation or supremacy: Alicent vs. the Grandma'am and Dr. Gaul.
Snow excuses LG through her aura, talent, beauty, and twisting her claim of not being District to liken her to Capitol people/himself both to the HG audience (still using the idea that Capitol > District as basis to say she is > District) but when he goes to 12 and sees she has community, admiration from District folk, a refusal to victimize herself unnecessarily AS WELL AS the mockingjays and how the Covey/she's more akin to them...he wants to get rid of her, the districts, and the birds. In light of that, Aemond allows himself to be involved w/Alys tells us that he saw Alys, too, as a sort of "exception" to the rule.
Both women (seem) to manage to escape from them anyway, as one theory of the end of SnowBaird is that Lucy at least understood that Snow was going to kill her either once she saw the guns & looked at the funny, or b/t then and the moment Snow started calling out for her.
Aemond, to me, reads as "loving" Alys as his unique companion meant to provide him invaluable insight into his political and military agenda, as well as personal comfort/a closer experience to the love missing from his family. Snow loved LG the way he ever could for a nonfamily member: obsessively and possessively and idealizing.
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Even family members don't receive the kind of redemptive, pure, healthy true "love" from Snow, as he thinks about beating his own grandmother, says Tigris was too ugly to be a prostitute, and later feels more as if she did it would reflect bad on the Snow's name/lineage, and reputation/his own.
Differences
Aemond, unlike Snow, was never in any danger of losing sustenance nor experienced great hardships like poverty or extreme hunger either before or during the war. He never turned on Alys, but he never actually got the opportunity to. His lover is much older & became pregnant and we definitely know she survives him bc she uses what seems to be his bastard son to protect herself & those living at Harrenhal from the crown's soldiers before going "missing".
LG had a family or very close companions before Snow ever came along while Alys had no reported close companions or family she could have had aside from the very group of people she was not really a part of. And of course, she's a much older woman. LG isn't dumb or socially inept or unobservant, she would have seen people sell themselves to Peacekeepers, her parents were killed by Capitol, & she knows that if she were too specific in her music she'd been suppressed and endangering herself. For her, trust is more important than love; for Snow, control is more important. However, she develops real feelings for Snow, not knowing how he truly thinks until nearly the last minute, and that comes from her seeing how he makes the effort to get to know her family, how they live, hanging out with them AND later she expresses that she needs to trust someone when she is about to try to something daring or vital for her survival. Snow had already seemed to show her an avenue to survival amidst great danger.
Aemond, on the other hand, puts Alys in danger right away and she is there for it--he is the one who kills all the Strong males in front of the entire castle populace in a burst of anger. So it's like he's Snow, but showed his hand from the beginning.
Snow will never really know if Lucy Gray genuinely loved him bc he lies constantly to justify his own actions and to justify killing her and never gets a good read of her; Aemond will die thinking Alys loved him.
For all we don't know about the greens' dynamics b/c a lack of detail, Aemond reveals his own obsession with proving his military prowess, masculinity, insecurities, and prejudices: his hatred of the Velaryon boys and seeing them as "stealing" his birthright/symbol of supremacy, the iron throne itself, how he would have felt that their claim made him seem a less worthy human being and the resentment that would have developed from that; his focus on how Rhaenyra was "just a woman" and obsession with her genitals, motherhood, & sexual activity; his saying that he'd be a much better king than Aegon, his own elder brother ever could; his deciding to not help out either his mother and sister in KL when he hears of Daemon-Rhaenyra capturing it NOR Daeron-the Hightower army in the south when Criston Cole advised they go help Daeron out to retake the capital bc he thought this was a "cowardly" move (even though later he hides from Daemon and Nettles with Alys).
The Experiences for Me and some SnowBaird Shippers
Already described all the above my attraction to SnowBaird is about the dramatic irony.
The not-so-great-but-enough difference b/t Snow and Aemond that makes it easier to ship SnowBaird and not Alysmond--besides the first's thoughts being available & genuinely funny even when hypocritical or cruel--is that:
LG is not a literal sex slave to Coriolanus -- dubious consent (as some wrongly may identify this pairing or story) = sexual slavery; LG very obviously wanted to be in a relationship w/Coriolanus before she might have realized he was trying to kill her in the last chapter, and it is obvious when he comes back and she enthusiastically walks over to him before Billy Taupe confronts her and the Covey PLUs enthusiastically hangs out with him and tells her about her life
while it's easier to tolerate Snow over Aemond bc we can see the vulnerable moments from Snow, whenever we do hear of Aemond's thoughts, it's usually the most sexist shit there is; Snow's thoughts are tinged patriarchal & never attribute violence on women as a grand rule of thumb
Young!Snow has not killed anyone (until Sejanus), and the reveal of his mind after killing/causing Sejanus' death is a fascinating study of crazy
I don't think I can get myself to rah!-rah! for Alysmond (ship name) as I get "excited" thinking about SnowBaird even if we got a lookie-loo into Aemond's mind, bc again, above. The excitement mainly comes from the interplay of my own dread AND I like "the play of predator & prey, how the positions change & switch, how we travel along to see how exactly Snow self-destructed & how LG escaped him"(from my tweet linked below).
I find Coriolanus Snow a great character, and his relationship with Lucy Gray--though not morally positive--enjoyable for the extant passion (quotes given below) and the element of them relying on each other to escape some sort of material deprivation. I'm also disgusted with both male characters while I root for their lovers to separate themselves from them. Writing on the wall, and all.
There are too many of Snow's ridiculous paranoid and hypocritical thoughts cataloging the realization of his inevitable final tyrannical form he creeped towards since the first chapter. That doesn't mean that the relationship & his thoughts weren't fun to read. For all it's worth, it is intriguing to see a sociopath's mind in a romance context. It is fun to see what love looks like in such a taboo mind space is like--an anti-community/anti-real love/romance is like from a safe space.
And again, all forms of love don't equal the sort of pure, sustainable love that is actually a substance of several things in a mesh (respect, admiration, sexual attraction [for some people]; memories; challenges to ideas; opportunity; proximity; unique conditions of sense of commonality vs difference; feelings of reliability and reciprocity; trust; etc.) If there are romantic feelings, it is a "romance". The romantic feeling is both a part of and critical to the most heartening AND lasting partnerships and marriages.
And so again, Snow is not capable of the "right" kind of love or the love that some people want out of real love for themselves or what they perceive in a ship. He constantly chooses to not regard District people as deserving of basic rights or necessities at the expense of his power, but he does have romantic obsessive feelings and the capacity to be attracted romantically to a being. Therefore, yes, he had a romance with LG and loved her...in his own way and the way he could.
Pre-District 12 Quotes (intrigue to passion):
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I tweeted about this, actually:
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So with bk!Aemond's romantic feelings for Alys and Alys are more likely NOT truly reciprocating similarly (unless she also is pretty ruthlessly sociopathic), technically it is a romance...on his side. Subjectively. A thriller on Alys' side.
The sexual slavery element really just ruins what could have been an enjoyable ship for me, but after all the posts I made about AlysxAemond, the dislike for this ship was exacerbated by AlysxAemond shippers who said Rhaelya or Daemyra were the worst, or the "real" evil ships. The anti-Rhaenyra and anti-Dameon-ness as separate individuals also are hypocritical due to Aemond being comparably worse for the Strong genocide & Riverland erasure alone. Meanwhile, the war prize/sexual slavery...
No, Rhaelya doesn't have this context, either, since she got together with Rhaegar BEFORE the war or any major battle.
Still, I don't really care all that much anymore that people ship Alysmond bc people are going to ship anything; it's so much so when they try to claim it is a morally superior ship to most available or conceivable.
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jangofctts · 2 years
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I have some random questions about Bats and Blue:
Is she on birth control? Is that why they are both okay not using any other protective/contraceptive method?
Is this his first real intimate/sexual relationship? He seems pretty experienced physically speaking. And it seems like there has been a seed of interest for each other, since they have know each other for so long, but has he been with anyone else?
Why now? I get she is down to fuck The Batman but why does Bruce suddenly feel okay opening up to her? Was their first experience the catalyst for him to allow himself to want her openly when he is Bruce?
What did they think about each other before they fucked. She mentioned she thought about The Batman and was attracted to him. What were their initial thoughts when they met for the first time (with him in disguise)?
Who do you think she likes more? Or is it like she likes them both, but for different reasons? I feel like he thinks he is more himself as The Batman and so they are more open when she is with that version of him (I cannot wait to see her reaction when she finds out....)
How do you think Blue sees herself, in regards to her gender and her physical appearance? Is she like more feminine or more adrogynous or does she not really think about that at all?
And then how does that tie into how Bruce/Batman sees and is attracted to her? Is it more that he knows her so that's ehat drawn him in? Is it more like..unspeakable and they just have that chemistry? Is it not at all about her appearance and demeanor and just her presence?
Love you, love your writing, cannot wait to read more ❤️
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I aM HAPPY TO DISCUSS skjerh but it's gonna be below the cut!!
yes! i forgot to edit it in and i’ll be editing the second chapter tn to mention it, but blue is def on birth control, but also like it do be fanfic so no babies no chance of pregnancy and no diseases lmfao
I dont know, I dont think Bruce 2022 has had any long lasting relationships but I don’t think he’s a virgin yknow. im guessing he probably messed around a little bit in his later teens or early 20s. and like, he’s intuitive and blue tells him what she likes. you don’t necessarily need to be experienced to be a good lover imo
like I said in the third chapter, bruce and blue know each other! like they’re childhood friends and bruce has technically and already feels comfortable and has opened up to her before. the only thing is that she left for university and they sort of drifted until the third chapter takes place, where they reunite because of alfred’s scheme lmfao. bruce and blue have always had feelings for each other but they are both wickedly shy people so nothing was ever said. and bruce is still trying to manage how to be batman and such so his decision making is like questionable at best when it comes to real life, yknow? he’s a recluse and does not know how to deal with people well, esp with romantic interests. 
well I mean, batman is sexy lmfaOOO and blue thinks so too. tbh he did scare her initially but she trusts Gordon and she then (obviously) made her own opinion about batman through working with him. like blue is a very kind and caring person and it’s easy to tell that batman is um Unwell, so she developed a sense of worry and sympathy for him. bats, since he is bruce, was fuckin spooked when Gordon introduced him to blue. Bats didn’t know blue was back in town or working for GCPD and so he wanted to keep his distance out of fear of discovery or keeping her out of trouble essentially. however, he is stupid and feelings make people even dumber so he wasn't very successful in pushing her away. and then in the first chapter, even though it was a life or death situation, he was literally willing to die instead of forcing or like asking blue to help him
yeah I agree. blue likes bruce and bats for different reasons but she does have that familiarity with them since they're the same person. like one is a forbidden love and the other is a childhood love. and yeah bruce is definitely braver with the mask and does feel more himself, which I hope I accurately portrayed. bruce is shy and like, idk it’s scary to open yourself up if you dont have a mask to create a sort of barrier. 
and well, it is a reader insert technically, so the appearance is up to the reader. but I do have my own input as to what she would look like. she goes by she/her pronouns and identifies as female, but again I dont really use a lot of pronouns in the fic so it can be up for interpretation. as for looks I was thinking of a blend of the two ladies in the photos below! Blue’s family is Arab and hence the appearance    
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again bruce and blue have known each other for AGES. like it’s more of their chemistry and personality plus just overall familiarity/comfort he has with her and vice versa. obviously he’s physically attracted to her looks but it’s more of what’s below the surface. plus, just in general, bruce is not a superficial man and isn’t shallow when looking for partners. in fact I'd say he’s more of a personality over physical feature guy. and so is blue!
hope that clears stuff up! 
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kimnjss · 2 years
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Not Hobi lowkey sweatin when yn said remember?? He was like 😳 I’ve been caught 😂😅. This is not gonna end well that’s for sure (and by this I mean the whole secret identity thing).
Yn wasn’t even thinking about him huh…so who was she thinking of 👀👀👀 maybe the last guy who’s lap she sat on??? (I’m assuming not a lot of people her lap dances during the day shift??). HE NEEDS TO LISTEN TO YOONGI! Never thought I’d say that but yeah…yoongi be on to something there 👀. There’s clearly an attraction there for yn so who knows maybe if she found out early on that Hobi = her new sugar daddy things would progress 👀. Oh and yn calling Hobi on his hidden account a “client” 🥲. I mean I guess I knew she had dudes hitting her up all the time but didn’t know she had multiple sugar daddy’s???? (Poor weirdly naive Hobi probably doesn’t suspect that either 🤡🥲).
Lastly, not them both way over sharing on their socials 😂…like yes Hobi it does look like you just 😀. Not surprised that yn is picky with who she hooks up with either…it seems like she’s all about the hustle. I think it would take a lot to distract her from that, Hobi is gonna have his work cut out for him taking down those particular walls (he’s got a good head start with their sexual tension but I have a feeling that’s not gonna be enough to seduce yn on its own)
he for sure thought he had been caught ! that man is so terrible at keeping up with his double identity ., he's already whining abt it in the group chat nd he's barely gotten anywhere with yn in person... (which i guess can be considered a good thing -.)
you might be on to smth 👀 you're right . not many people go into the club in the middle of the day for a lap dance - which is why she was so confused by hobi being there ., but that's also most likely what intrigued her abt him . like how bold he was w saying he had only gone there to see her ., she def liked hearing that - despite the fact she played it off . nd YOONGI KNOWS WHAT HE'S TALKING ABOUT ! if things are going to far with hobi nd yn ins person nd he keeps the whole sugar daddy thing a secret ., that's not going to end well for him . esp when we know that our girl doesn't date like that nd she is pretty much closed off when it comes to any thing remotely romantic . if she's letting him in nd then later finds out he's been lying to her??? it could get ugly .
also yeah... hobi is not the only sugar daddy that she has :/ tho he's def the only one that asks her abt her day ! so at least that's smth in his favor .
LMAO right ! bc literally nobody needed to know that hoseok 🥴 but also ! it really does look like he justtt - . nd you're right ., not a lot is going to distract yn from what she has going . she's abt making money nd enjoying herself - nd she's not going to waste any time (or energy) on a relationship that might not work out . so hoseok is gonna have to reALLY prove that he's worth it . (she's def seeing hobi in a different light after his frequent visits tho ., whether she knows it or not) .
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shinidamachu · 2 years
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ma’am the post u made about kagome taking over inu’s mind is a bit biased. although InuKag are obvious and endgame, the initial stages - esp where inu was avoiding her glance, were truly because of the remaining wounds / live he had for kikyou. which is that we saw in the next part of her resurrection. I think it’s nice to find inukag moments but I feel you’re trying to erase kikyou from the references and that’s not really an honest interpretation.
Thank you for being so polite.
Well... of course that post is biased! I don't remember ever selling myself as neutral. In fact, I don't think neutrality is something possible to achieve because it's human nature to be partial and anyone who says otherwise is lying to you.
I'm not trying to erase Kikyo from the references, even because I have no such power — no one does. It just turns out I'm mostly focused on Inuyasha and Kagome's relationship, to which in my opinion Kikyo plays no part besides being a point of conflict.
I firmly believe that Kagome didn't met Inuyasha because her soul belonged to Kikyo once upon a time, but rather that Kikyo met Inuyasha because her soul would one day be Kagome's.
The way I see it, Inuyasha was attracted to and fell in love with Kagome not because she is Kikyo's reincarnation, but because she is Kagome. And by the time he tried to kiss her, I just don't see how he would still see Kikyo in her when he had more than enough time to realize they could not be more different.
He would have loved Kagome even if she had nothing to do with Kikyo because the similarities they shared are not what piqued his interest. I'd even argue that the physical resemblance slowed the romantic process down, considering that the staged betrayal made Inuyasha build his walls even taller than they were when he met Kikyo — which makes Kagome managing to get his trust so quickly that much greater.
He fell for Kagome because she gave him true acceptance. She trusted him and made sure that he knew he could trust her in return. She gifted him with companionship, friendship and comfort without ulterior motives. She cried for him when no one else did. I really don't know what from any of these screams "Kikyo" to him.
I'm not denying she had a huge impact in his life, because how could she not? And I'm not denying he was still confused and wounded about what happened to her because that was quite obvious. But by the time he tries to kiss Kagome, he does so because of all the "Kagome" things she has been doing since they met, none of which reminded Kikyo's personality except archery. All there's left is the physical similarity and I don't take Inuyasha as that shallow of a character.
I also don't think Inuyasha and Kikyo ever truly loved one another, so that's probably the keypoint of our disagreement. To me, they were infatuated and more in love with the idealization they created of each other and the life they could have together than with their actual, real versions. And this definitely affects the way I perceive scenes like Inuyasha trying to kiss Kagome.
Especially because... as far as we know, Inuyasha never tried to kiss Kikyo in the manga. Canonically, their very first kiss was the one Kikyo layed on him in an attempt to drag him to hell. Their second and last one was the goodbye kiss.
So why has he never tried to kiss Kikyo before, but was going in for the kill with Kagome? And if he had tried to kiss Kikyo when they were in a relationship, why didn't she let him? Why hasn't he tried to kiss her all of those times they saw each other between the first kiss and the goodbye one?
Why has he never covered Kikyo with his Fire Rat Robe? Why has he never trusted Kikyo? Why has Kikyo never rode on his back? Why were they always so far away apart when together? Why has he never rested his head on her lap? Why did she never learn about his New Moon secret? Why did he rarely acted like a dog demon when she was around?
It's your God given right to think I'm wrong, but I do have my reasons to interpret things the way I do, the same way I'm sure you have your reasons to interpret things the way you do. Art is subjective and I think it's fair to say both points of view are valid.
I, myself, have read a considerable share of takes I found dihonest, such as "Inuyasha loved Kikyo more" and "Inuyasha settled for Kagome" and "Kagome is an annoying, abusive bitch." The difference is that I simply blocked those people so I wouldn't have to be exposed to their content.
Instead of coming to their inbox pointing out the supposed dishonesty of their interpretation, I just recognized that people are entitled to their own opinions and they're not always gonna align with mine. So I express my interpretations on my own blog, in the hopes that people who agree with me will appreciate it and people who don't will blissfully ignore it.
That's my advice for you, anon. If you feel like I'm trying to erase Kikyo from the references and that my interpretation is not really honest... maybe block me or the #Sid Reads Inuyasha tag and start creating your own content, vocalizing on your own space the interpretation you judge to be unbiased and honest. I promise there are no hard feelings from my part and you’d feel much happier.
That being said, I'm not really sure what you intended with this ask. What I do know is that I'm not going to change your mind and you're definitely not going to change mine, meaning I reserve the right to express my takes the way I see fit and I won't censure myself on my own blog just to make you happy. That would mean being dishonest with myself.
I understand if you feel annoyed, bothered or uncomfortable with some of my posts, but — and I genuinely say this in the nicest way possible — this does sound like a "you" problem.
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with this new episode.. would you think noé has a crush on jeanne? i've never seen it as something possible up until this episode. like i have no idea why he would, but this episode is making me think otherwise??? i just can't think of an explanation as to why he'd love her, it's really confusing so that's why i'd like your thoughts on it. </3
I do think it’s a possibility, yes! I wouldn't call it a full-on crush or anything, but I do think he's at least a little attracted to her.
I don't love the anime's tweaks to chapter 12 in ep 7, and especially not them putting extra emphasis on Noé and Jeanne (since ch 12 thrives on a very careful balance of subtext imo), but there is evidence in the manga for some one-sided NoéJeanne attraction.
Starting in chapter 3, when we get Jeanne's big reveal spread, Noé looks just as struck by Jeanne's appearance as Vanitas does, and we know for certain that Vanitas finds her quite beautiful.
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In fact, given there's that little extra slim panel of Noé looking surprised before he reacts to her appearance, you could even argue that more emphasis is put on Noé seeing Jeanne than on Vanitas seeing her. So if we know Vanitas seeing her here is a big deal, and Noé gets even more emphasis, then this moment is probably important. And the important thing happening is that Noé is quite struck by the way she looks.
Continuing on, when Noé and Jeanne fight in chapter 4, Noé holds his own pretty well at first. Then Jeanne looks at him and he freezes up, allowing her to kick him through a wall.
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Given that there's a heartbeat sound effect and a blush on his reaction panel, it's pretty clear that seeing her face here once again has an effect on him. He even reacts like this after recovering from the blow:
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which is more or less how I'd expect Mr. "what on earth is love" to react to being attracted to a woman for the first time in his life.
There's a couple other similar moments in the bal masqué arc (his reactions to hearing Jeanne is at the ball and having her thank him the day after), but I'll save the in-depth analysis of those. For every moment after Vanitas kisses Jeanne, you could argue that at least some of Noé's interest in her is connected to his trying to make sense of her "romance" with Vanitas, but in chapters 3 and 4, I really can't think of any explanation for how Noé acts other than "he thinks she's really pretty and doesn't know what to make of it."
You could read that as romantic attraction, or maybe just very strong aesthetic attraction (esp if you're a fan of aro-spec Noé like me), but either way, he sure does seem to be attracted to her in some form.
Furthermore, when future Noé starts narrating about the "feeling stirring in his heart" that he's yet to understand in chapter 12, it's immediately preceded by him looking over at Jeanne, and shown over the image of him stepping on Vanitas's foot.
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The images shown with narration like this are pretty important for implying future meaning, and there's definitely a way that you can read these pages as implying a future crush on Jeanne. After all, Noé turning to look at Jeanne right before the narration about his feelings does sort of make it feel like it's his seeing her that prompts romantic thoughts. Her face is also shown larger than Domi's or Luca's, making it seem like Mochijun wants to draw extra attention to her importance here as Noé talks about love. Or, we could argue that he's just looking at Jeanne because he's baffled by Vanitas's explanation of his feelings for her, and thus naturally staring as he tries to puzzle it out. He feels things about Vanitas and Jeanne's relationship, and he's drawn to talking about it and watching the both of them as a result, but it could well be that Vanitas is the one he's really jealous about.
Similarly, if we set aside Noé looking at Jeanne and say the image actually under the narration is what's important, we run into a similar split. If the foot stepping means something, it could be foreshadowing about Noé someday stepping on Vanitas's toes in a less literal way via some kind of relationship with Jeanne. I don't know whether the "stepping on someone's toes" metaphor is something relevant at all in Japan, or if it's exclusively an english phrase, but it's at least possible that it's what Mochijun is referencing here. Or, it's possible that the foot step itself isn't the significant part, but that it is important to have Vanitas and Noé interact under the narration. After all, even if it's a silly interaction, it does draw attention to the two of them while Noé talks about his future love, so maybe it's Vanoé foreshadowing, not Noéjeanne.
In other words, the end of chapter 12 could be a setup for Noé's future crush on Vanitas, or his future crush on Jeanne. It could maybe even be both. That's how I've always read not only this scene, but the whole chapter. We just don't know which of them he's jealous of.
However, it also seems worth noting that chapter 12 is pretty much the last time we get any indication of this semi-crush Noé has. After that point, Mochijun almost never has them interact, with only two notable scenes between them in 40+ chapters. And within those scenes, the only even slight hint of attraction on Noé's part is a single panel of him blushing when Jeanne literally twists her leg around his neck and shoves her thigh into his face:
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which I'm not inclined to read into all that much.
I think literally anyone even a little bit attracted to women would be blushing in that moment. It's quite possible even people who aren't attracted to women would be blushing in that moment. So it's not exactly compelling evidence for a future NoéJeanne plot.
Overall, I think it's fair to say that, while Noé hasn't interacted enough yet with Jeanne to "love" her in a notable way, he does seem to be at least a bit attracted to her. I have a lot of thoughts on what Mochijun could be doing with this thread, and where I think the whole Vanitas/Jeanne/Noé romantic mess is going to go in the future, but given this post's word count, I think I'll be saving that ramble for another day.
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may i ask for some poly relationship w larry & sal x male reader hcs?
Ah! Of course! :) Sorry I've been taking so long school is getting to me cause of finals;-;
Warnings: Noncannon compliant (their parents aren't together, no one dies, etc), NSFW (implied teen NSFW otherwise they're out of highschool), no weird cult stuff but they still ghost hunt, more modernish (?) phones and stuff
Sal x Male Reader x Larry hcs
highschool
I think that Sal and Larry would have gotten together before you got there
Like, I say gotten together but the way they started it was literally best friends that were super hornknee and decided to have sex together
They started then developing romantic feelings for each other though
And although the sex dynamic wasn't perfect (refer to my Sal x reader NSFW fic) it was good and they loved each other
It became an on and off thing until they actually worked it out
they talked about it and decided that it was better that they stay friends until they can sort out their own sexual desires and endeavors
Sal didn't even know he could do both as a switch and verse so he wanted to just re-examine his sexual self
And Larry was okay with that
So they decided to date but just without sex for a while
Then you moved to Nockfell their sophomore year
and god were you cool
Sal was the first one to see you in the hallway
It wasn't love at first sight really
He thought you were cool and he wanted to talk to you
Then that same day he told Larry about you during lunch
"I want to talk to him I just don't know how to approach him"
"Oh, well who is it?"
Ngl Larry was kinda jealous about how flustered Sal was getting at the prospect of a new friend but then Sal pointed at you and Larry was like "Oh, okay, I get it."
So Larry just approaches you
It was kinda to tease Sal about how shy he was being
Also kinda because you looked rad as fuck
So Larry approaches you sitting at a table alone
You were actually quite chill
You were happy since no one was approaching you
You guys hit it off and ended up becoming really good friends!
So for the duration of your sophomore year and the summer of your junior year, you guys were really good pals and hung out a lot
Then Larry started developing feelings first
And he was super confused since he knew he still liked Sal, no doubt about it
So he was just super confused and conflicted because he didn’t want to break up with Sal
So during, about the first half, of all of your junior year he kept this to himself and tried to keep himself from feeling for you
Sal on the other hand already accepted his feelings, he realized it later than Larry
And he read yp on what being polygamous meant
So although there was a lot of confusion at first he figured it's no different from people in love triangles
He realizes it a couple weeks after Larry and decides to bring this up to Larry during winter break
The conversation pretty much just went like Sal explaining polyamory to Larry for an hour
They end up deciding to just wait a bit and try to flirt with you individually
you know,
because they don't remember that you don't know they're attracted to you at this point
:)
So basically you think that they're both trying to cheat on each other for the week they're flirting with you
At the end of that week, you tell them to meet you together
And they don't know any better than to meet you
And then you come to them, don't let them explain, and cry because you don't want two of your best friends to cheat on each other like this even though you like them
And then they realize why you're saying this
So although this was not the time they expected to confess to you they told you what they were trying to do
So you just sat there
With these two idiots
and told them "No guys, cause I was literally having a breakdown about losing my two best friends."
And they confess to you
and everything is emotional and raw and you accept
Your guys' dynamic doesn't change because you’re dating now
The only difference is you guys make out together and show lots more pda
although you always bring up what they did when they were trying to give you hints
"We just really wanted to flirt with you okay??? Is it such a crime to want your crush to fall for you???"
"When you guys don't explain you're looking to expand your relationship, yes. Yes, it is Larry."
"He's kind of right babe-"
"SAL-"
Y'all spend a lot of time communicating with each other on stuff like that now
Your senior year goes without any bumps between all of you and you then graduate
College Dynamic
so you and the gang (except Ash, she moves to the city of course) goes and makes a college house
once you all move in together there it's a new routine
You all agreed and talked about the move together and what it would entail
And then you all finally realized how different it was from a monogamous relationship it was
But you all had your learning curves within the relationship
You find out more about their dynamic as a couple
For example, Larry and Sal never liked to fall asleep without you anymore
They had trouble sleeping without you beforehand and the first time you all slept in the same bed together it was just... so... peaceful
They'll spoon and cuddle without you individually (Sal is always the big spoon with Larry)
but they just love falling asleep next to you
They also refuse to do homework without you there
Even if it's just the simplest this they're just gonna need to have you in the room to finish it
Sal likes to make songs about you guys
He records them and edits some but he never lets you two listen to them
"It's just embarrassing if you two were to listen to it. It's like confessing my love for you guys all over again except I can't hide behind the mask."
So until he decides to release his songs online or plays those at gigs he's never going to let you listen to them
Larry likes to paint you guys
His paintings of you before the "disaster confession" were okay, it just looked like he was making a painting of a friend, except for the occasional rose
But now he paints you and draws you two whenever he can
He finds it funny how flustered you and Sal get whenever he makes suggestive paintings or sketches of you two
One time he painted a whole sex portrait of you and Sal together (A 12 by 28 specifically) hung it upright in front of the door to your rooms and didn't tell anyone
So after you and Sal got home that day you were welcomed with Larry lounging on your bed with the giant picture of you fucking Sal next to him
It was definitely beautiful though, even if it's hard to call your nudes beautiful
"Larry Johnson, this painting, as always, masterful. Beautiful craftsmanship but please-" "-we mean this in the most loving way possible Larry-" "-STOP PAINTING OUR NUDES BABE"
He put it away to be hung up in your apartment for when you all move out
Non-College Life
Once you all finish college you guys move into an apartment outside of Nockfell
The minute after you and Sal leave to get food Larry puts up all his private paintings of you guys
It's funny to him
I imagine you guys moving to a really populated city
Somewhere where it's a good place for people wanting to have creative jobs but still close to Nockfell
Maybe not back to New Jersey but probably not as far as New York or LA
you guys do all the cute stuff you never got to in Nockfell together
It's not like the majority of Nockfell was homophobic, mostly just the people who went to the church
But a lot more of them didn't think that polyamory was possible
So now it's easier
It's not like you never experience any polyphobia anymore but it's easier because you're in a more open-minded place
Sal's favorite thing is to go to concerts now
And pride
He also likes coffee house dates too
Larry gets hit on a lot though whenever you guys go out anywhere though
He finds it funny how jealous you both get
Sometimes if he wants Sal to get really mad he'll play along
But most of the time he shuts it down before it begins
Sal gets hit on a lot at concerts the most though
He gets kind of awkward about it, he's not going to edge them on but he gets uncomfortable enough to just not know how to shut them down
Usually, you and Larry will just appear behind him and whisk him away
Larry likes to use it as teasing leverage for a good rough one that night but you usually make sure he's okay with it before Larry does anything
You get hit on the most casually
Here and there but there aren't really specific places
It just sort of happens
You mostly shut them down alone
But occasionally you'll have to go to Sal and Larry if they're persistent
And they'll be mean too
One of the first times you saw Sal and Larry ever legitimately get that mean was when you got hit on in a club and they both just pulled you behind them and absolutely ripped the person a new one
You guys really like to stay at home if you guys have dates though that way everyone feels included
But when you all do go around together it's always specifically for three people you never tell anyone it's a date for dinner reservations, you always make sure you go on rides everyone wants to go on at amusement parks, and hey if worse comes to worst smoking is a group activity (if you have asthma or any other breathing condition Larry makes you edibles if you really wanna do edibles with them)
Starting jobs there are tough and all but you make it off your feet
Sal ends up booking a lot of gigs and Larry's commission request skyrocket when he moves to the city and makes a blog about his art
You all get an apartment with affordable rent and one that allows Gizmo
I hc that Gizmo is an esp but I don't know if that's real
So regardless you'll still be able to have room for him
Sal proposes to both of you
You guys talked about marriage and decided that it would be easier legally to just not get married through a court
So you guys have a friends wedding and Gizmo is the ring bearer
You guys don't get a fancy venue or anything
You guys all just have a city wedding
NSFW
So, the first time you all decide to hook up it's mostly just very communicative rules beforehand
Sal is more comfortable with being fucked than fucking someone else at most times but "It's not like I never want to stick my dick in you two" as he puts it
He also likes background music on most of the time
It's kinda weird if there isn't just a little bit of music
It isn't really bothersome, you guys keep it below 20 at most times
Sal's also super submissive
He liked it rough, make him cry out for you two
A bit of a pillow prince
Especially enjoys being tied up by you two
gags and blindfolds are on the table
Although whenever he does feel up to fucking you and Larry he'll usually end up having you two ride him because he gets to be such a mess with you two unless he's jealous or upset
Usually, when he's upset he's gonna lift you two up and fuck you against the headboard or wherever you two are if he's impatient enough
One time you were chilling with Larry in your bedroom and he was painting over his easel
Sal burst through the door where it slammed back on itself and closed itself
He then tracks his eyes on you
immediately asks you "Can I please fuck you right now"
and as soon as your safe word and consent comes out of your mouth he's holding you down on the bed and fucking into you so hard you can barely breath
Larry doesn't mind it and just continues painting with you moaning and being so pathetic in the background of his music
He kinda finds it funny because before you all got together and he and Larry would angry fuck it never worked out
Sal was just being a brat most of the time because Larry still wouldn't let him fuck him submissively
Speaking of which, Larry's more comfortable with being dominant, he'll bottom but only if he can still be dominant otherwise forget it
Larry's just a rough fucker anyway
He really likes pushing and holding you two up against walls when he fucks you guys
He likes showing off the muscles he got helping his mom with handy work and stuff like that
The first time he did this was to Sal when you were studying in your guy's room
You said you didn't really wanna participate today so they fucked like they would without you
And so they're talking back and forth, teasing each other
and Larry corners him
And just
lifts him up
It looked like he was just lifting a bag of sugar up
Sal seemed weightless as Larry just rocks into him
It was one of the hottest things you'd seen at the time so you joined them
You do that a couple more times but then it just becomes normal and you decide you need to start finishing all those assignments
Larry does that to you one on one as well without Sal but it happens to Sal a lot more spontaneously
Larry though is kinkier than Sal in some respects
He'll try anything at least once "Lisa didn't raise no bitch-"
He's really into breeding and long fucking sessions though
Like, lowkey he has omegaverse fantasies
Not because of the weird stuff just because a lot of the time..... they have breeding written in
He'll never admit to reading any of it but you know he has at least once
Super into dirty talk
And he's really good at it
He also had a praise kink and a degradation kin
He likes degrading you and you telling him thank you and how good he's treating a filthy little brat like you
"What're my filthy little brats good for other than sucking my dick so well. Taking me so well like the dirty little whores you are?"
"Yes sir-" "-we're made for your big cock-" "-thank you for fucking us like this-"
He especially likes breeding you and having Sal suck you off while he does it, he finds your crying cute
And an added bonus is rewarding Sal after for it
You guys talk about long-term consent and all that and decide that it's a good idea, you all trust and love each other so there isn't a problem
lol this kinda went to shit at the end but I still like it enough! Thanks for the Sally Face request I really like this game and the dynamic between a poly reader hc :)
-Laika
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fizzycherrycola · 2 years
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For the ‘give me a character’ post: England and Belgium! 💜
England 💚
How I feel about this character. I have a strong and perpetual urge to hug him, despite the fact that he'd probably smell like an old man. England has been my muse for a LONG time, well before I started writing, for reasons I've never fully understood.
All the people I ship romantically with this character. Y'all know my OTP is FrUK, but I'm a multi-shipper and a historical-context shipper. If England was close to any other nation/kingdom throughout history, then I will ship him with that character, lol. Also I tend to view the relations between Hetalia characters as entirely different compared to humans, so while I know it's not everyone's cup 'o tea, I do ship like... post-WW2 USUK. But anyway, here's the list: Portugal, Spain, France, Prussia, Belgium, America, Russia, Germany, Japan, and there's probably more that I'm forgetting.
My non-romantic OTP for this character. BROTP is England and Wales. "The grumpy brother is soft for the sunshine brother." That's it, that's them.
My unpopular opinion about this character. Hmm... I suppose I'd say that I don't think he is "conventionally attractive". That is, if he were cast in a live-action movie, I'd pick someone who looks quite plain to play him. Not saying that "plain" is bad, because honestly, most people are plain. Hell, I'm plain! But from a story-telling perspective, it's more interesting to have him look very average and unexceptional. And for his character, I think that'd be an asset. Does that make sense?
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon. Honestly, I got my wish when Hima finally introduced the UK bros. So for now, I'm happy.
Belgium 💛
How I feel about this character. Cute, cute, cute. I want her to wake me up with a soft pat on my head and make me homemade waffles for breakfast.
All the people I ship romantically with this character. England, France, Spain, Germany... and I'm very open to more!
My non-romantic OTP for this character. Benelux, best and most wholesome family dynamic post-WW2. (That's just my HC though, I definitely need to do more research on their modern history, but with my limited knowledge, they seem quite chill.)
My unpopular opinion about this character. Are there unpopular opinions about her? I can't think of any, so I'll just give you a few headcanons... She's a great cook, not afraid to roll up her sleeves and get her hands dirty (literally), optimistic even in dark times, good at making friends, easily startled (esp. during Halloween), if she trips she makes a funny squeak when landing like "Puumf!" or "Nguff!", not afraid to politely speak her mind, and likes dancing.
One thing I wish would happen / had happened with this character in canon. How about more appearances in general? I feel like Hima forgets that she exists sometimes, along with a number of other characters. Give her a serious scene! I think Belgium is a tough cookie, so I'd like to see more of her working hard to help her people through crisis.
~~~
Tysm for asking, Mae!!
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lantern-hill · 2 years
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what i wish the characters in euphoria s2’s storylines were instead of what they are
fez- fexi is cute as a concept but I cannot get over the fact that fez was like 25 in s1 before they retconned him and also i don’t care that angus cloud is actually younger than maude apatow, he looks like an old old man beside her and it creeps me out. other than that, relationship w/ ashtray. does ashtray go to school? does fez feel guilty over that? is he afraid he’ll end up like rue? is ashtray okay, like mentally????
lexi- exploring her own identity. maybe give her madd but that’s just me projecting. learning to do things for herself that aren’t the play since tbh the play is still not really for herself lol, it’s very much about other people and trying to get across to them. give her a close friend but no romantic interest (not YET. develop a friendship first, then move it to romantic interest in s3. my girl needs to vibe a little and develop her sense of self a bit more.) give lexi and jules a bonding moment over identity crises/feeling lost when alone.
cassie- relationship with her own sexuality in terms of feeling hypersexualized/being hypersexual as a trauma response. the relationship w/ nate could be kept if it was a way to explore this since they both have sexuality issues 
nate- relationship with his own sexuality (repressed attraction to men that was hinted at in s2e1 and implied throughout all s1).  the relationship w/ cassie could be kept if it was a way to explore this since they both have sexuality issues the stuff with cal that happens is interesting too i guess. 
rue- i would change nothing chefs kiss maybe sam levinson deserves some rights
jules- anything literally any semblance of a storyline please give my girl some more screen time i am begging you i would settle for ANYTHING but ideally exploring more of the sea blob episode ideas, maybe have her go back to her city friends, explore the effect rue had on her, etc. 
gia- give my girl some girlboss moments please and thank you i cannot take seeing her so sad all the time. this is not a criticism to storm reid ily bae but the scenes in s2e7 where she got to be an actual person and not just a foil to illustrate how fucked up rue is were chefs kiss and i want her to do some shit and have a plot. 
kat - almost forgot about kat while writing this bc of the absolute character assassination that has been s2 so far esp in s2e7 but develop her relationship with her own body outside of being fetishized by people on the internet
95% of these involve breaking up the couples but i think that’s fair because to be honest no one on this show is mentally stable enough to be in a relationship anyways except for like,, ethan
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flyhighest · 2 years
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hq headcanon sexualies but like in depth I just think it's fun and my brain ay work wouldn't think of anything else
atsumu gay boy ,,, he went thru girls like they were going out of season and tried his damndest to justify why he was with them 'uh because she has fat tits?' / 'she's pretty ig?' and broke up with them to justify why he was no longer attracted to them 'her voice was annoying' / 'she was extremely clingy' until osamu bless him being the voice of reason 'maybe ur just not attracted to them and that's ok' which pissed him off but like so true? his first crush was kita anyways; likes to make things more complicated for himself when he's more attracted to the unattainable even tho he's unattainable (or undesirable) himself
osamu a bi boy, comfortable with his sexuality and finds both male female and all in between very nice to be with but he's too busy with his cute onigiri business to really focus on dating atm but he can appreciate a beautiful person when he sees them he's definitely an ass guy; also had a crush on kita
bokuto my trans bi king, will love literally anyone he has 3 passions in life: volleyball, consuming any type of meat, and his partner he loves a good crowd cheer in his games but he is ultimately more pumped up if he sees his significant other in the crowd he will treat u so so so right and the way u deserve and will absolutely call them every day when he's out of country or city let's just say hes the type to have a selfie of u or a picture of both of u together as his phone background; his first crush was namie amuro (a popular jpop artist in the early 2000s)
oikawa gay enby, he loves when a girl pursues him but is rly only with a girl for the attention he receives but is always confused when they break up with him like is it his personality? definitely not, not THE tooru oikawa but in the end he's not rly upset about them leaving has come to accept the fact he's gay when he goes to south america like ah that explains it; his first crush (and love) was iwaizumi
yachi, a true lesbian queen gets intimidated by men (esp when they're taller she thinks it makes them more opposing) but u bring a pretty lady into the scene she thinks they are a goddess incarnate (kiyoko, yukako, hasu) and her mind will go thru so many different scenarios on how to screw it up but also thoughts with nothing but them what were they talking about? she has no idea; her first crush was a classmate in middle school
kiyoomi, gay dude they are also Grey aromantic only in terms where he doesn't pursue romance nor do they see a purpose for it in their life and when they experience a romantic desire for someone it's fleeting generally (totally not self projecting here) he is attracted to other men altho someone to quickly lose his interest will have to show a lack of hygiene (their place looks like it hasn't been cleaned in weeks, not washing hands after using the bathroom, reusing the same pair of socks the next day, etc.) or disregards for others physical health and after he witnesses this in real time theyre like 'actually nvm' but men sexy; his first crush was his captain (ushijima is right there) let's just say if he finds u hot / is actually romantically interested in u consider urself lucky but you'll never ever know it (basically he will be in his grave when he tells u)
hoshiumi love this chaotic bisexual thinks men are hot and women are gorgeous but unfortunately he's too zoned in on volleyball to actually concentrate on one besides if they like u they will tell u outright but if he doesn't find it necessary he won't, he's a bit impulsive so who knows what'll happen; does have an interest in ushijima but doesn't like dating teammates but he's obvious in his attraction
last but not least kenma ace king, doesn't find sex necessary or appealing he would rather play video games and cuddle than do anything sexual but he's not blind to someone's looks he just doesn't find that important tho altho he does find romance to be for that Someone but streaming currently has him bound atm but it's not to say he's not disinterested; his first romantic interest was kuroo but hinata tho ,, much to think about
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I'm genuinely curious and don't want to start something! Just wanted to ask what you make of the 'Old Fritz might've been asexual' take, I don't know much about him and I feel you're one of the best people to ask esp since you lean towards 'he was probably queer in some way' too
Hey there! So, first off, don’t ever worry about me interpreting you asking me a question as starting something. As much as I love making dumb jokes about the guy, I love nothing more than doing this kind of stuff and defending or explaining my points. There’s two degrees I want to get over the next decade: first my JD and then my MA in Prussian history. I live for this stuff! Always have! Second off, I’m very sorry for not getting to this sooner. Things have been incredibly stressful for me for a variety of different reasons which have made answering your question, until now, rather difficult. Putting this under a cut because, holy shit, it got long!
My personal reasoning for why I think he’s bi (which, correct me if I’m wrong, I’m assuming is what you meant instead of ace and could be a different post entirely since some historians have tried to argue that) stems more to do with some of my lingering questions about the nature of his relationships with certain woman, rather than that of his relationships with men. To me and my modern, queer eye, Fritz’s relationships with men like Hans Hermann von Katte, Francisco Algarotti, Michael Gabriel Fredersdorf, and (much to my personal vexation) one Monsieur Voltaire are either outright homosexual/homoerotic in nature or very, very easily lend themselves to that interpretation rather than strictly romantic friendships (which Wikipedia does a fairly good overview of and, if you’re coming to me from AmRev perspective, uses Hamilton and Laurens’ relationship as a familiar example). While I’m avoiding those relationships in this ask, I’d be more than happy to elaborate upon one/all of them in a different one. 
Before I go into the big pauses that Fritz’s relationships with Madame von Wreech and Countess Orzelska give me, I want to deny the use of Fritz’s wife as an example of Fritz’s attraction to woman. While this, admittedly, may sound odd, we have ample evidence of how turned off and repulsed Fritz found Elisabeth Christine. Before he had even met her, Fritz was complaining about how she was ‘not very pretty, speaks but little, and acts like a blockhead’ (Asprey, 87) and, later, admitted to Grumbkow his plan to ‘keep my word,...get married, but afterwards it will be a case of that is that, and goodbye, Madame, and fare thee well’ (Jones, 52). For Christ’s sake, the man pitied her knowing how his treatment would leave her as ‘one more unhappy princess in the world’! Which is little consolation when you remember he also referred to her with such romantic terms as ‘this unpleasant creature,’ ‘the abominable object of my desires,’ ‘the person,’ and claimed to have preferred to marry ‘the biggest whore in Berlin’ (Asprey, 87). And while we (fortunately? unfortunately?) know quite a bit about their sex life, Fritz largely regarded it as just another duty - to quote him, ‘I will only have the duty to fuck’ (Ibid, 87). And while Seckendorf heard - first, presumably from Count von der Schulenburg and, later on, Count Friedrich von Wartensleben, a close and intimate friend of the then-crown prince - that Fritz would ‘fuck and refuck’ Elisabeth Christine and that said act occurred in the afternoon, it still was out of a sense of obligation (Bely, 481-2). When reminded that if he wanted more money for frivolities, he’d need to produce an heir, Fritz bemoaned that he ‘cannot sleep with my wife out of desire, and when I do sleep with her, I do it out of duty rather than inclination’ (Clark, 50). All this in accumulation, as well as the myriad of other quotes and incidents I’ve left out, makes one wonder why his relationship with Elisabeth Christine is sometimes used by historians to prove any sort of heterosexual impulse in the man when she’s the woman with the weakest supports for that argument.
That being said, now we get to the women with a more muddled places in his romantic escapades, if you will. What exactly happened between Orzelska and Fritz during his trip with his father to Dresden in 1728? The main source for everything that occurred during this trip is Wilhelmina, who didn’t attend and without anything about this specific incident coming from Fritz or Friedrich Wilhelm I, make it rather hard to use as concrete, irrefutable proof. Now, if her recollections were contemporaneous - like coming from a diary or journal she kept at the time - that would be one thing. But it comes from her memoirs which, while a delightful read 10/10 recommend, are written decades after this trip took place and, memory being a finicky thing, can’t be taken to the bank. All those disclaimers, here’s the story as told by her:
‘One evening...,the King of Poland [note: Augustus II] insensibly led the King of Prussia to a very richly decorated room...The King of Prussia, delighted with what he saw, stopped to contemplate all its beauties, when [all of] a sudden a tapestry was rolled up, which procured him a very novel sight. It was a lovely female in a state of nudity [note: Countess Orzelska, the Polish king’s daughter], carelessly reclined on a couch. Her beauty excelled that of the finest pictures of Venus and the Graces; her body seemed of ivory, whiter than snow, and better shaped than that of the Venus de Medicis at Florence.
...Scarcely had the King cast his eyes on the fair one, than he turned about with indignation; and seeing my brother behind him, he rudely pushed him out of the room, and left it immediately after in a violent irritation against the trickery they had attempted to practice on him. ...In spite of the King’s vigilance, [Frederick] had had time to contemplate the Venus of the closet, who did not cause him so much horror as she had done to his father. (Wilhelmina’s Memoirs, vol. 1, 107-6)
Wilhelmina then goes on to claim Fritz had fallen ‘passionately in love’ with Orzelska and that the illness Fritz experienced upon returning home was simply being lovesick. Pinning the accuracy of this story is incredibly difficult because, again, we have only one source relayed decades after the fact and from two volumes of memoirs known to have inaccuracies. While I, personally, would love if he had had a tryst with Orzelska (who is such a badass in her own right and deserves more recognition than as a footnote in this guy’s story), there’s no one way to say with more than 30% confidence. I am inclined to believe something along these lines happened because if someone told me a story like this, lord knows I wouldn’t forget it for the rest of my life. And, with Wilhelmina being so close with her brother, it lends a bit more credence but as to the actual emotional or physical response Fritz had to it, well, without my time machine, I can’t and don’t want to say.
With Madame Eleonore-Louise von Wreech, things are a little more concrete. For starters, Fritz actually talked about her! In written correspondence that survived! We even have seven letters between the two of them that survived, which is a bigger win! As Blanning says, they’re ‘ardent but light in tone, ironic, almost flippant, and highly stylized’ (Blanning, 58). Their relationship was known to those close with Fritz at the time that Schulenberg felt compelled to visit and warn the crown prince against devoting himself to women because ‘the slight pleasures gained cause a million displeasures.’  Fritz’s response? To tell the poor guy that he may have ‘the gift of continence, but I assure you that I do not’ (Asprey, 83-4). Firtz even went so far as to send a letter to her mother, waxing poetic about Louise’s ‘beauty, her majestic air, her bearing, and her entire department.’ It’s worth noting that Louise eventually broke off the affair due to being bored by how he ‘loved [her] too much and often annoyed [her] with his clumsy love’ (Ibid, 84). Contemporaries, including Friedrich Wilhelm, believed Fritz had impregnated her with a daughter who her ‘cuckolded husband would refuse to recognize’ (Blanning, 58). Blanning is the only source I’ve seen dispute this due to this news coming from Seckendorf, who didn’t reveal how he came about this information; that Fritz and Madame von Wreech’s correspondence doesn’t indicate a physical relationship; and on the fact that she was not pregnant. I haven’t been able to find the birth dates or any sort of records for Louise’s two daughters to figure out where their conception could’ve been in the timeline and if it matches with the likely dates for the affair, but I also don’t have the resources Cambridge would afford Blanning. Either way, while the physical nature of the affair is in dispute, the emotional aspect certainly was there. Especially when taking into consideration the fact that she’s the woman Fritz was likely referring to in the 16 August 1737 letter to Voltaire where he claimed she had taught him how to love (and also inspired him to write poetry, which we shouldn’t be thankful for). Specifically, all these years later, he stated how ‘this little miracle of nature possessed every possible charm, together with good taste and delicacy. She sought to transfer these qualities to me. I succeeded well in love but poorly in poetry. Since that time I have very often been in love and have always been a poet’ (Fritz’s Oeuvres, vol. 21, 96).
All this to say, there’s a bit too much evidence of some degree of opposite-gender attraction in Fritz to completely write off the possibility that he could’ve been bisexual. While it’s undeniable he held a preference for men and that’s whose company he typically enjoyed, I still do find it interesting the two exceptions (one potential and the other with a fair degree of certainty) to this. And, while I would never want his attraction to men be minimized in favor of that to women, it still remains important to note to get the most comprehensive picture of the man.
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hello, i just recently read berserk and i am absolutely blown away. im so glad to have found your blog, you have made a lot of in depth analyses on griffguts and honestly i have a lot of trouble comprehending griffith's and gut's relationship and feelings toward each other post-eclipse but i feel like you clarified a lot of things for me and im so grateful! i also wanna ask smth in regards to guts and casca but character limit soon so ill do it in another ask. just wanna say i appreciate you!
idk if its just me being ridiculously biased but i cant rly see the guts/casca ship? like i can tolerate it because i feel like it was written to move the plot in a certain direction/character development and not for the sake of romance but i always feel like guts was just... there. i mean when you compare the way he thinks abt griffith to casca in the golden age arc, he obviously reveres griffith so much, and casca is just... there. i really enjoyed their moments and thought they were cute but
with the sex scene i always just saw it as them coping. i did like it in how it explored guts's sexual trauma and it mostly seemed like guts and casca were friends doing it for the sake of coping rather than out of love and desire for each other. not to mention judeau who kept trying to push them together... but then post-eclipse, it seems like guts is so in love w/ her and thats why hes heartbroken, and not bc they were close friends and that he just cares for her as a fellow hawk member
idk maybe im missing something, i would love to be enlightened bc i rly scratch my head when i see people describing it as an amazing love story and a romantic ship when to me it comes off as less like trying to portray a passionate love b/w two characters and more as, this is necessary for guts's character development and motivation in regards to griffith. esp when i feel like guts and griffith's feelings for each other are just so intense, even if its more "subtle" than an outright sex scene
thank you so much! I'm v glad my blog helped clarify some stuff about the story for you, I appreciate you letting me know <3
well if you want to be enlightened about how Guts and Casca is actually super romantic deep down you've come to the wrong place lol because you've mostly described how I feel about their relationship.
I completely agree that during the Golden Age their relationship felt very much like two friends hooking up. The fact that Judeau had to push them into it seems really telling to me, there are strong indications that they're both rebounding from Griffith, as soon as Griffith re-enters the picture they get weird and jealous, after they have sex Guts calls his sword all there is for him and invites Casca along in as non-committal a way as you can, Guts decides independent of Casca to stay with Griffith instead of leaving with her just as Casca decides the same, I also want to shoehorn in a link to this thing I wrote lol, etc.
And I actually don't see any difference after the Eclipse tbh. I actually wonder which translation you read, because I know at least one of the scanlations out there has Guts talk about how he loves her a few times post-Eclipse while the Dark Horse translation never does.
I think Guts' relationship with Casca after the Eclipse is largely based on obligation. It's actually kind of striking to me how unromantic it is.
Like during the Conviction arc he doesn't stop everything he's doing and decide to save Casca once he realizes she's in danger. He goes to check on her, finds her missing, then sits down in Godo's cave and debates with himself for two chapters before deciding to try to find her. And he only comes to this decision after comparing leaving Casca behind to leaving Griffith behind in the snow, and thinking of her as the last remnant of the Hawks ("this last feeble flame.")
I think to Guts she represents everything he threw away when he left the Hawks, and saving her is essentially a chance to better himself and try to make up for it. I don't think that's Guts' only motivation for saving her and then taking her to Elfhelm, I actually have a post here where I wrote a list of all the reasons I think Guts has if you're interested, but I do think it's the most important one.
And man after he saves her and returns her to Godo's, right before the Hill of Swords?
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To me this excellent page - Casca mirroring a child, Griffith looking Like That, Guts' attention torn from Casca because Griffith looks Like That - just screams that Casca is Guts' responsibility while Griffith is Guts' desire. Whether that's revenge or latent attraction or probably both l b r, Griffith is the dude Guts wants to be pursuing and Casca is the person Guts is stuck with.
Even when he sexually assaults her it's all about Griffith lol, it's not even framed as, say, Guts being so attracted to her he can't help it or anything like that, it's framed as "do this and you'll get closer and closer to Griffith."
After learning her mind can be restored he potentially starts thinking about her more romantically, like there's subtext there when he watches Casca with Moonlight Boy on the beach, eg. And even that reads to me as Guts trying to distract himself from his "obsession" with Griffith.
I think Guts wanted to get back together with Casca after getting her sanity back for the same reason he had sex with her the first time - as a distraction from confusing and painful feelings. In the most recent chapters we saw that it didn’t work out and now he’s swinging his sword again, frustrated, wondering what the hell he’s supposed to do now, which in itself shows that he wasn’t trying to selflessly help Casca because he loves her, he mainly just needed something else to focus on while trying to kick his Griffith addiction.
SO yeah, basically ia that their relationship doesn’t seem romantic pre-Eclipse, but I also don’t think there’s much of a romantic element post-Eclipse either. I felt like it was fairly consistent throughout.
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my take on yueki's personalities
yue 
notes / personality
cocky (but also like understated confidence - r e g a l af) 
kind of a nerd
maybe a little entitled, and a little bratty and suki loves to indulge her or to rile her up depending on her mood
books
seems soft but made of steel
strong sense of duty
socially intelligent - can be manipulative and suki (the dork) thinks it is so hot 
aloof queen bee typa beat
supportive, both in ur day to day and in going after your big moral life goals 
deep water - steady and powerful, often underestimated
untold depths, private yet surprisingly nurturing - master of deflecting away from herself
political nerd - well read, and when she has someone she trusts not to take advantage of her, she goes OFF 
distrusting of most people, has been used and ignored and underestimated her whole life
patient - homegirl knows how to play the long game
excellent at pai sho / chess 
she and suki have epic battles of wits - dif types of strategy but both are really into it and get a little too competitive (multiple board games have had to be replaced over the years)
loves travel bc wasn’t allowed to much, esp when she was sick 
was super repressed growing up - never let her be herself or really have any sort of independence
used to sneak out and wander around in rebellion and casually sabotage plans and decisions she didn’t agree with 
introverted, many opinions but keeps them to herself, discreet but well spoken
weaponizes secrets and information - doesn’t often use it but...she could
definitlyyyyy worries and overthinks and re-evaluates - worries ab social politics a lot
obsessive about picking things - wants it to be perfect
shes growing into her confidence as a leader
prefers quite intimate places
incredibly romantic
classic lit
planner for the future - visionary
kind / sweet / gentle - yes, but that’s also her “front” to a degree (seriously, i feel like she gets painted as so sweet and submissive and one dimensional by the fandom a lot of times and it freakin kills me)
INFJ-T (The Advocate) ((yes this is from 16p which i know is not super accurate but u can still catch her overall vibes from it ya know)
Creative/insightful/principled/compassionate/altruistic
sensitive/reluctant to open up/perfectionist/prone to burnout/not a fan of the ordinary
friendships / relationships
(<> indicates that they’re one of her best friends)
sokka - puppy love crushes, laugh ab it now, get into deep late night talks about responsibilities and leading, water tribe culture, prank wars (no one believes sokka when he says yue is a mean prank master (expect suki comes to see it in action lol))
katara - <> badass women friendship, totally would go to matches and protests together, tough girl shit, waterbending practice/duels - start of cautious, but then get rough in a good way bc they trust each other, they do water tribe food adventures together
toph - indulges her chaos, bonding over stupid royal upbringings, odd yet weirdly endearing pair
zuko - both sort of standoffish gay royals, but once they come to see that they are friends - take up similar spaces though, so only hang out in a group or rarely by themselves, they do hang out at like political parties and stuff when they get more comfortable together
aang - <> he has an impressive world view, yue is super studied and well read, so she and aang nerd out over past cultures together, and also their peace keeping nature, they have tea together often - usually after she and katara wipe the floor w/ each other
clothing / aesthetic:
blues and pale colors
classy and understated wealth
like those cute feminine button down shirts
dresses
like cold weather classy
complicated braids
sort of soft girl aesthetic?
pleated skirts !!!
i feel like she would wear ethically sourced fur (i don’t wear fur but idk how to get it in an ethical way - maybe it’s just fake??)
knit sweaters and skinny jeans and heeled ankle boots
light academia !!!
hella funky earrings - to mark her native pride and also cuz gay
from my readings, tattoos have a lot of cultural significance for Inuit women, and so i feel like yue would totally have some (when she comes of age ofc) 
suki
notes / personality 
extroverted 
also very strategic 
more spontaneous tho - will totally calculate the odds in a spilt second in her head and then just go for it
like still a careful planner, but willing to say fuck it, yolo if it seems right 
reflects on her mistakes, but more in like a healthy way - unless it was a leadership mistake, then it eats her up inside - worries more ab keeping her girls safe and making the right call
likes lively places
total bashful romantic
manages the present and the short term - realist
loves to do lists 
a little punch happy - loves to make violent threats, but also does it out of excitement and she’s just a really physical person tbh
steady, can come off as stubborn and abrasive but she really just wants what’s best for everyone she loves
harsh on herself and worries about her girls a lot 
always ends up in the oddest situations 
totally would kick someone’s ass for being racist/sexist/homophobic/etc 
dedicated to her training and her regime 
not a great cook, but she can manage 
would drink monsters 
has a weird relationship with femininity - took her awhile to reconcile strength and toughness and being assertive and aggressive with also wanting to feel pretty and feminine and embracing being a girl and how those things can coincide and amplify each other
abandonment issues - parents absent/dead 
was imprisoned - obvi she had several almost successful escape attempts, but she got really close to breaking 
was incredibly independent really early, grew up really fast and tries to make up for that now by sometimes being reckless 
tough/assertive/woman of action 
dry sense of humor/sarcastic - not good at nickname/pun humor tho
practical/dedicated/strong-willed/direct/honest/reliable/loyal/patient
stubborn/judgmental/difficult to relax/difficulty expressing emotions/too selfless 
friendships / relationships
(<> indicates that they’re one of her best friends)
sokka - <>  man they’re like platonic soulmates - she beat him up, and now they spar all the time, totally funny and crack jokes all the time, go skating together, they do shitty art together, and then show their lovers after zuko and yue come back from their high society mixers, broke her out of prison, m/f friendship !!! 
katara - also sparring buddies (suki will throw down at any literally moment (and tbh so will katara)), not close but will hang in a group - go to each other for advice 
toph - <> listen these two wreak havoc together, they help each other out a lot, i feel like they’re shopping buddies (similar enough style to frequent the same shops) toph knows suki won’t judge her for wanting to feel pretty and suki knows toph will be honest, they are both blunt sarcastic assholes and get along like a house on fire 
zuko - <> shows zuko how to like,,,enjoy things (and how to let go of some of that pressure to be always right and the adult and in charge bc they were raised with so much responsibility on their shoulders even tho they were just kids)? she is also super protective of him (once she trusts him), one of the only ppl who can match suki fully in hand to hand combat, both do the Disappointed Parent Look when the group falls into chaos, but by themselves, the two of them end up in hijinks
aang- suki enjoys his optimism and they’re just chill bros, they love exploring abandoned placed together 
clothing / aesthetic
sporty and skater mixed 
ripped jeans, crewnecks, vans 
green and yellow and dark red 
gym clothes/athleisure - lifting style gym clothes - cut off t-shirts and bike shorts
skirts too, likes to play into femininity
she’s a gold jewelry kinda girl - but stuff that won’t hinder her movements 
necklaces that end in the hollow of her throat & occasionally rings
definitely cuffs all of her jeans (it’s just bisexual culture ya know)
so many crop tops - some came like that, some were more of a diy project
yueki’s relationship!!!
nerd/jock solidarity 
feel the burden of responsibility and the weight on their shoulders 
they create a safe space between them, full of trust and warmth and vulnerability 
yue will read suki sappy passages from poetry books while suki polishes her fans 
they slow dance in the kitchen a lot 
they get good at ordering takeout - and they have some weird decision making process that only they understand - bc neither of them are great cooks 
yue would feel jealous of suki and sokka, if it weren’t for how stupid in love sokka was with zuko and yue can see that suki really only has eyes for her 
yue is taller than suki and it amuses her to no end to pick suki up and carry her away from a fight (we all know suki could get away if she wanted to, but when ur hot tall sexy gf throws u over her shoulder,,,,,,u don’t complain)
joke they’ve adopted kataang and zukka, bc they’re all dummies, but in reality every last one of them is stupid LMAO 
they love to do each other’s hair and it’s like super intimate and really cute 
sometimes it’s these epic elaborate hairstyles and then at other times, they try to see how many ponytails they can fit on suki’s head and how many little braid yue can do 
they travel EVERYWHERE 
since yue is royalty and suki is her body guard,,,, well i mean, they totally have to see these kingdoms they are doing trade deals with in person 
it helps that they're friends with a lot of them 
they stay over in everything from camping so they can stargaze to ritzy hotels with hot tubs in the bathroom 
yue gives suki rocks she finds on all their travels and suki lines them up on their mantle around the pictures of them in increasingly weird locations 
suki loves guarding yue’s meetings bc she gets to watch her absolutely rip a new one into misogynistic old men and it never fails to bring her joy 
While yue doesn’t love getting attacked, the ruthless efficiency suki defends her with is like,,,,,stupid attractive 
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