TR 269
Just me rambling
I have been trying to gather my thoughts all this while. The whole - OG Timeline, first through sixth/seventh Altered future. None of it was making sense to me for a long time.
There is a part of OG Timeline (as of ch 269) that is common for all the timelines - that is:
The births of all the existing TR members
Papa and Mama Sano’s death (assuming Mama sano dies when mikey is 5-7 yrs old)
Izana leaving for Institution (1994)
Emma coming to stay with Sano’s at 3yrs old (1994)
Maybe - Shinichiro coming to visit Izana (1994-5)
Mikey and Baji in Sano dojo; Sanzu and the two being friends
Waka and Benkei having their own gangs
Formation of Black Dragons (1995)
Mrs Shiba dying and Taiju starting to Abuse his siblings (1996-7)
Kakucho and Izana meeting after his parents death (1998 approx)
Akane dying (1998-9)
Izana getting into Juvie (1999) and meeting S62 gen
1st gen Black Dragons disbanding (1999)
That’s it.
Then we have Sanzu getting his scar in 1999 (approx); which according to Ch 269 was a result of Shinichiro timeleaping; because in OG Timeline it never happened, rather Mikey was the one who was left in vegetative state.
So that means the events that cascaded down never happened were:
Toman was never formed as it founding members never met
Kisaki never had his sight on Mikey to make him into a puppet; as someone else was number one then, maybe Izana who had taken over 8th gen BD
9th gen BD were never defeated as there was no Toman
Shinichiro did not die, Kazutora was not arrested
Takemitchi never served under kiyomasa; in turn he never met Mikey or Draken or any of the toman members. Maybe he never ran away after graduation. Meaning, he was not pushed on the tracks and he never time travelled
Chifuyu never met Baji (as he was never held back) and Takemitchi
Senju never formed Brahman
But other things, which were not directly related to Shinichiro travelling time, did happen:
Draken meeting Mitsuya or Mitsuya meeting Hakkai or Baji and Kazutora meeting
Kisaki and Hinata meeting in cram school
Hina being saved by Takemitchi from bullies, the whole love triangle remains (only this time, Takemitchi may not have been out of the picture like the first time)
Izana finding out not being related to the Sano’s
Koko being famous as Money Monger
10th gen Black Dragon’s existed but were different than what we saw. Or Taiju was not their Leader
Soooo,
The conflict Takemitchi had with Kisaki would have been going on side by side without it having to do anything with Mikey or Toman; but then Takemitchi would have only one chance to be with Hinata. Maybe, Kisaki would have used some other gang, to fulfill his plan.
But Mikey got involved in all this because Shinichiro travelled back in time, stopping Mikey from going into vegetative state; that led to formation of Toman.
I was confused how did only that connect Mikey to Takemitchi. The link is Izana and Kisaki.
Izana already had a grudge against Mikey, the formation of Toman only added fuel to fire - which burned the 9th gen BD. Then Kazutora accidently killed Shinichiro - which was a shock to Izana, who almost lost his will to live - Kisaki meet him then, before he met mikey. I am assuming he found out about Izana the same he found out about Mikey. And then Kisaki went to Mikey and toman as they were the strongest then (if that makes sense); in turn connecting him with Takemitchi.
Somehow, Kisaki knew about Time travelling. Making me think, Izana knew about it too - ofc through Shinichiro.
So now we have a number of people who knew about time travelling from the begining:
Wakasa (Shinichiro)
Kisaki (Shinichiro and later Takemitchi)
Izana (Shinichiro)
Sanzu (Shinichiro) and probably Baji too
Takeomi (Shinichiro) and probably Benkei too
Now: Mikey (Shinichiro & Takemitchi)
Draken (Takemitchi)
Chifuyu (Takemitchi)
Naoto (Takemitchi)
Hinata (Takemitchi)
Maybe Akkun (Takemitchi)
Did i miss someone?
Someone from first five is probably Shinichiro’s trigger. Other than that remaining individuals are Emma and Grandpa Sano - who both would have high desire to save Mikey, but i doubt they knew about Timetravel. (It would be just cruel if the trigger for Shinichiro was Emma, knowing what happens to her down the line; plus she was way too young.)
Did any of this make even a bit of sense?
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TR 268
Pardon me for this, but my first reaction to this was -
DUDE!!! What The Actual FUCK!!!!!!
I am late to get to a chapter for ONE time AND THIS HAPPENS!!! C’mon!!!
Shinichiro is the second Timeleaper????? Like, WHAT?
My more clam reaction, when i made peace with the fact that this is actually happening -
If you look at it, it may just make sense.
Why i think so? Here -
This is from ch 7; when Naoto explains what happens when Takemitchi timeleaps.
This was not mentioned very often, because there were many significant or drastic changes in the following timelines, where the whole setup or dynamic of the situation had changed. Meaning, only those timelines, where the changes were minor (Like in this Timeline, Akkun not being in jail - which largely did not effect the whole plot), Mitchi was dead for the time being he had gone back in time.
Other timeline, where there were more significant changes - like Mitchi going from not-so-important Toman figure to one of it’s executives; we don’t know how that timeline was till Mitchi came back to future, but by the looks of it, he wasn’t dead in those.
Why did i bring this up?
I have two questions or things or reasons to bring this up -
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Because, this means Dead people, while they are dead for everyone around them - they are infact in a parallel timeline, somewhere in past or future.
Does that ring a bell?
Someone who is dead?
Someone who can timetravel?
Someone who was week but still strong enough to be the centre of attention of all?
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No, i’m not talking about Takemitchi. Shinichiro!!!
I found this interesting,
And i don’t know the original script (someone please correct me on the tense here if i am wrong), but every manga panel is drawn and written carefully. So, this -
It’s present tense.
Does it mean, Shinichiro is still (in 2008) alive?
Like, okay, it’s a bit of a stretch; but the wording here sounds deliberate. It could have been written as ‘was’? We do focus more on tenses in English.
AND, if he is still in the background somewhere - what is he doing?
Takemitchi has always tried to make the following timelines better, but they always get worse; if Shinichiro is in the background, why hasn’t he done anything?
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On to the next part and a VERY important question -
Shinichiro travelled “Back in Time"
When?
Was it when their dad died? When their Mom was on death bed? When Mikey started getting into fight with older boys? When the whole plane incident happened? Or when Toman founding member’s met? or when he died?
I was kinda sad we did not get much information from Mikey’s past chapters; it was just repeat of what we knew till that point, but we did get a few more insights on the situation
While there is possibility that Shinichiro travelled to a time which was never mentioned till now; it is interesting to point out these:
Two obvious difference in POV’s of Mikey and senju regarding the plane incident (it was Shinichiro who made that plane, btw)-
Sanzu, if we consider Mikey actually ripped his mouth open, even after that he was okay following Mikey.
He knows about Timeleaping (all that destiny stuff) but he was out of spot-light for a long time
Mikey didn’t just seem to visit by his brothers bike shop on the fated night, he was called/told to be there. He saw Baji & Kazutora being taken away
(Note: Drawing parallels with Takemitchi as they were time and again mentioned to be very similar)
So, here’s what i think happened; Shinichiro after Kazutora hit him in the head, travelled back in time (no trigger this time, like Takemitchi’s first time).
Either to the plane incident, to stop Mikey from doing the same thing to Sanzu that he had originally done (i think he failed in this one, same like Takemitchi could not always stop an incident from happening)
And/or to just a few hours before he died; meaning, he had called Mikey to gift him the Bike and while he was waiting in his office, Mikey had came in and saw someone breaking into the Garage, making Mikey confronting Baji and Kazutora Killing Mikey instead of Shinchiro. Shinchiro found him almost dead, and like in Bonten timeline, Mikey triggered his Timetravel, but only a few hours back, where he gave Mikey a wrong time and instead was killed? (It’s like a paradox)
I know, this is assuming, that Shinichiro time travelled on Aug 13th. But there are also possibilities that he travelled on a complete different point.
Well, for that, i can’t seem to think of something which is mentioned till date. To me, it feels like if it’s not these two incidents then it’s completely off screen scenario.
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Now to combine the two things, We don’t know much about OG/1st Timeline. The first TL we know is:
Toman is bad news, involving into every crime possible
Mikey and Kisaki met on 5th July 2005 (remains same for all TL’s)
Hina had dumped mitchi in this TL in 2005
Takemitchi and Mizo squad remained slaves of Kiyomasa and group, where (to our knowledge) Takemitchi and Mikey never met
Draken is dead, Akkun is in jail
Not much info on anyone else
Kisaki was acting President of Toman and Mikey was MIA
Hina (truck rammed into her) and Naoto died on 1st July
Mitchi died on 4th July, 1st time leap
Goes back - 12 Yrs
Told Naoto about the death after 12 years – future changed
But, what if there is a timeline even before this? Like, that would make sense. Shinichiro travelled back in time to save Mikey; and Mikey was fine (atleast alive) in this timeline.
Now, here -
Does this mean, Takemitchi won’t have died by being pushed on the train track? that he would never have travelled back in time?
What is it that Shinichiro tried to save Mikey from? And why would it even be a concern to Takemitchi - who only met Mikey by pure coincidence and that too only in later timelines?
And, if Shinichiro was only trying to save Mikey; then why is it that whatever Takemitchi did, the future only seemed to get worse and worse? In every progressive Future, Mikey had suffered more and more, living and dying painfully, alone?
Does that mean there is one more Time leaper, a third, who is working against both Mitchi and Shin? Someone else who is already dead? It’s not that farfetched thought, there could be multiple Time leapers, we are only following one.
It is also important to know
Why did Wakasa wait till the end of Three deities war to tell Mikey about the whole Time Leaping thing?
Who else knows about it? Benkei? Takeomi?
Was Wakasa the trigger?
Did Shinichiro travel back only once or was it multiple times like Takemitchi?
Why did Wakasa never talk to Mikey or informed him about it since 2003?
What all information is Wakasa hiding?
Does Wakasa remember all the timelines like Naoto remembers?
Was Shinichiro’s time travel evolved to the same level as current (2008) Takemitchi, where he is able to glance into the future?
Also;
Dark Impulse is born out of love.
So, was it Mikey’s love for his brother that gave birth to these impulses? or is it like Shinichiro was able to pass on these impulses?
Or are these caused due to Shinichiro travelling back in time, making a conflicting image of himself inside Mikey? (This traces back to me believing Mikey having split-personality; where due to someone else trying to shape his life the way they want caused confusion within himself of who he actually is)
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All of this is without even considering Many other factors in the story that are still left unsaid, uncleared or unattended
Let me know what you guys think. i hope i was able to make atleast 5% of sense here.
P.S.
Mikey even while yelling this (plus telling him about Shinichiro too); Kept on punching and kicking takemitchi, which - pardon me - but i find absolutely hilarious.
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