#treverrow script

[stenka-razin]

I finally watched Star Wars 9 (aka Star Wars 8) and Star Wars 11 (aka Star Wars 9) along with a rewatch of Star Wars 7 (aka Star Wars 7). They're all bad!

The Force Awakens - I feel like this got by because people assumed it would resolve and pay off and you know, be a movie. It didn't and unfortunately the failures of 8 and 9 directly affect 7 because it leaned so heavy on future installments. It basically balled out on a credit card and episode 9 was the bill. But despite that I do think it's the closest to telling a coherent story in its own right. It's a story called Star Wars 1977 aka A New Hope, but whatever. It's also weird in that it like, double dips. It mocks this series adherence to the past while whole heartedly leaning into that earnestly. At it's best it's like Canonized Spaceballs, at it's worst it's reheated leftovers. But yeah, as soon as they drop that cryptic vision and "a story for another time" crap I know this was gonna blow. It's the guy who made fucking LOST. When will people learn!?

The Last Jedi - Guys this is dumb. Dumb as hell. Dumber than most Star Wars. Even the good ideas it flirts with are rudimentary. But they also botch half the story. Like the entire plot about the escape from whatever could have been solved with a single five minute conversation, and there's really no consequences. Like Holdo looks like an idiot for not briefing her crew... Poe Finn n' Rose look like idiots for botching a mutiny and getting thousands killed. It's so dumb.

Luke kills kids now... guess it's genetic. Like I think there's a small seed of a good idea in here. That Luke, once an anomaly amongst the Jedi, who saw good in a man everyone else thought was irredeemable, is now stodgy and conservative, a natural process that often comes when people are in power for a long time. That's a good idea. But for the first story with the character in years (I don't give a fuck about some stupid book) and we immediately jump to, "I tried to kill a kid cuz his rancid vibes" is bad! Bad writing!

Rise of the Skywalker - Everyone basically went in know this was gonna suck right? Like it had to wrap up a bunch of crap that no one had any plans for. Then it also had to deal with the fact that the Last Jedi kind of dismantled all that crap for a bunch of other crap know one had any ideas for. Like I know JJ and Kennedy are portrayed as villains for cutting down Johnson's vision, but I call bullshit on him having any ideas for a third movie either.

And in spite of that, it introduces a bunch of other stupid crap, too. Yeah this is Episode 2 levels of bad. I totally checked out. I had no idea what anyone was trying to do beyond shoot people. Babu Frik and D-0 were delightful though. Give those two a movie. Oh and it seems like each of these leans heavily on one old guy to breath life into the movie. Anthony Daniels, you may have been the best part of this?

Oh yeah the cast, like in general. They're mostly good, but also like. They don't properly hang out together until Rise of Skyguy and I just find it so odd that the filmmakers decide, oh yeah, they all hate each other? Like even Finn/Poe who were all like Buddy-this Buddy-that, now they're total dicks to each other. I also love that they one up Jedi butchering a love triangle, by introducing like six* potential couplings and all of them fizzling out. Like that's bad but it's even more confusing that they introduce more to fumble in the final installment.

Anyway, in summation. It sucked, and anything good about the first entry was a time bomb destined to suck because no one knew what the hell they wanted to do with any of this. Except make money. They knew that and did. Star Wars sucksssss

#*so we have finn/rey #finn/poe #finn/rose #~~~~Reylo~~~~ #finn/jannah?? #poe/and his ex whose name I forget #am I missing anyone? #I know in an early script treverrow came up with for skyguy poe/rey was a thing #that's dumb too

[swan2swan]

Confirmed Cast and Crew for Jurassic World: Chaos Theory

-Emily Beaver (Storyboard, first major project)

-Heidi Neunhoffer (Storyboard, Camp Cretaceous and Spirit: Riding Free)

-Bethany Armstrong Johnson (Head Writer, Camp Cretaceous, KFP: Paws of Destiny)

-Scott Kreamer (Showrunner, Camp Cretaceous)

-Nick Rodriguez (Writer)

-Travis Gunn (Writer, Santiago of the Seas, Dino Daycare)

-Sarah Karimipour (Writer, Tiny Chef Show)

-Annie Arjarasumpun (Script coordinator, Trollhunters: Rise of the Titans)

Will update with more, but it looks like we're in for a mix of writers with a lot of experience in kids' shows. Not sure who the paleontology expert is going to be without Josie, or if the writing is going to be as strong as the first three seasons of Camp Cretaceous.

Paul-Mikel Williams is almost guaranteed to return as Darius, and I heard rumors of Ryan Potter being attached (Kenji may just be a cameo, though, anchored to the show by his fraternal bond to our current possible-MC, probably-mentor).

I don't believe Zack Stentz has any attachment, but Spielberg and Treverrow ARE executive producers, which obviously could mean Nothing or could mean that they will surprise us.

Feel free to add things!

#jurassic world #chaos theory #jw:ct #jurassic world: chaos theory #jwcc #camp cretaceous

[fromcold]

Ugh reading and looking at stuff from the Treverrow script and there's so much awfulness (in particular dub-con Damerey wtf) but Finn has this conversation with a Stormtrooper and it's everything I ever wanted:

(from benredemption on twitter)

#duel of fates #treverrow script #finn #star wars #star wars rise of skywalker #tros

[silverlily35]

At least they drew the line at: Kylo Ren spends the entire movie doubling down on evil, blinds Rey, and is “extinguished” by Luke and Yoda.

If I had to watch the Treverrow version of that movie with my own two eyes I don’t think I could ever watch a Star War again. Seriously. Wtf kind of anti wet dream is that?

I’m annoyed I have to know this version existed at all now. I want it to die in a fire.

#tros #treverrow script #duel of the fates #reylo #bendemption #anti redemption bs #anti kylo bs

[gizkalord]

Imagine, they decided on showing flat, boring exegol in tros instead of mortis, which changes seasons in an instant, floating rocks, glowy trees at night, and has Sam witwer

#no i dont like the treverrow script either but it wouldve been awesome to see live action mortis #tcw rewatch #tcw 3x15 #the clone wars #anti tros #star wars

[creme-meme]

imagine what could’ve been if Ben Solo was actually a decent character.

imagine Ben Solo getting a postcard from the trio a few months after they defeated the first order when Finn led a stormtrooper mutiny and Ben hasn’t seen the trio since then bc they all find him insufferable and the feeling’s mutual and the post card just depicts Finn and Poe kissing as Rey stands beaming with Chewie and the droids (great band name) in the background with the message ‘Finn and Poe got married and we didn’t want you here to ruin the wedding’ to which Ben Solo says

and proceeds to knock back a pint of Moof juice

#Star Wars #Ben Solo #Rey #Finn #Poe Dameron #shit post #headcanon #shitty headcanon #I mean both TROS and the Treverrow script were shitty fanfiction #so I can have my own headcanon #I can have a little headcanon #as a treat

[nightowlqueen]

Unrepentant villain Kylo could have been so good

People keep telling him “This isn’t the real you!” and he’s like “What the fuck do you know about ME!”

His family says, “It was Snoke that seduced you to The Dark Side!” only for him to shut it down with “No, I didn’t fall to The Dark Side; I chose it.”

Kylo going down the inverse path of his Grandfather and actively rejecting the love of his family because unlike his Grandfather he will not allow it to make him weak.

He won’t allow it to cloud his judgement, and he will succeed where his Grandfather failed.

#Star Wars #Kylo Ren #bro it could have been so good #i wanna see the timeline where treverrow's script became reality #vision vader kicking kylo's ass please #kylo being haunted by force ghost luke? sign me up!

[gffa]

Unpopular opinion: Treverrow's script for Episode 9 would've been a better movie than TRoS.

strongly agree | agree | neutral | disagree | strongly disagree While it had some really gorgeous concept art, it really didn’t seem to understand Mortis at all, it was just using it for a cool prop, as well as the ending was basically “actually gray Jedi are the correct path” which is in explicit opposition to the foundation of SW worldbuilding, and also they had Finn being enslaved on Coruscant and N O  W A Y did I ever trust Star Wars to be able to handle that with any kind of sensitivity.

#unpopular opinions meme #Anonymous

[butwhatifidothis]

Jenny Nicholson is a treasure. My favourite quote of hers is from when she was reading the Treverrow Star Wars script: “He died as he lived: wasting my time.”

I loooove her lmao I go back and watch her videos all the time

#ask #anon #exqueuese me princess #not 3h #can't wait to see what that three hour video she said she was working on is about 👀👀👀

[emeraldsiren19]

Terrio was so busy trying to make an OT porn tribute for his fellow antis that even they ended up hating it. He says he was given a new story to work every day and had to write on the fly in the middle of filming, which is his excuse for the bad writing (the storygroup said they were never consulted by him at anytime), so clearly he's lying about that. JJ consulted George Lucas very closely before Terrio was brought on board and then that was scrapped. George and Treverrow and all the other contenders had scripts beforehand. Which is how it works. This isn't a $10 student film. Come on.

He and the rest of the antis/fanboys had such sheer hatred for TLJ and the complex romance and characters that Rian explored that he retconned everything, including TFA that JJ took credit for writing.

Space Mom is rolling in her grave. The previous 8 films have been mocked and spit on to the nth degree all because one incompetent writer who only knows how to kill off favorite characters couldn't see past his kindergarten-level bullying of the fans and story that has been sacred to people across the globe for the past 40 years.

He obviously doesn't think George Lucas (who without him there would not be a series in the first place) knows shit as you can tell from just a single viewing. There is nothing cohesive in TROS that fits with the prior 8 films.

Don't get started on how the main actor was treated. Adam had every right to be salty toward DLF on SNL after the premiere.

Not to mention the blatant erasure of Kylo Ben and Reylo by DLF's PR who told everyone cto never mention him again. Hilarious that they did at 4 or 5 "who is your favorite character" polls at the same time because they didn't like Kylo was the only result. Plus children throwing away their Kylo toys on top of that, at Christmas no less.

So the book and dvd that have just been released are NOT going to have a hopeful happy alternate ending where Ben lives happily ever after like Adam and the rest of the world were promised. It's not what the writers wanted in their tunnel vision quest to create the most depressing hatefest to erase Rian and Adam's progress.

Yes it was filmed (Adam wouldn't have all smiles at the beginning of December if it wasn't) but it's in a vault somewhere with destroyed "spoilery" merchandise that will never see the light of day, to the outrage of Disney shareholders whose interests depend on more income, not less.

#tros salt #dlf needs to be shot into the sun #dont support dlf

[textualdeviance]

Not 100% sold on its authenticity, but the Treverrow script that's been reported on today is kinda interesting. It tracks with the direction the end of TLJ felt like it was going: Finn/Rose, Rey/Poe and Kyle as a genuine bad guy, rather than someone who supposedly was only bad because Palpatine had been messing with his head his whole life. (TBH, TROS does have a plot hole there: Yeah, Rey could maybe heal Ben's mind, but there was nothing stopping Palpatine from getting right back in there and taking over again.)

I'm glad they didn't do the split, though. Most of TLJ's marketing had the trio front and center. Splitting them up would have been weird. Adding Rose into it would have been welcome, but keeping Finn away from the two people he'd bonded with the most? Ack. No.

I also buy the report about Disney messing with JJ's vision, though. They were clearly going for R*ylo fanservice, but doing so would make Finn/Poe that much more obvious. Hmm. Solution: Rose, except the slavering fanbros hated her, so they had to split her off. Uh. OK. Now how do we do No Homo if we have to save Rey for Kyle? Hey, let's add in these two new women who have next to no character development outside of Finn and Poe! But then we might piss off other shippers, so... I know! Let's not have any romantic resolution for anyone! Problem solved!

All in all, I think getting the trio together and giving them some good bonding and a happy (if not overtly romantic) ending was nice, of course. But I still think the whole Kyle thing was a clusterfuck, and so was sidelining Rose. I think they could have had a version of Treverrow's script that didn't break up the Scooby Gang while still giving us the Toxic Young White Dude villain we should have had. And Rey could have been Obi-Wan's grandkid, which would have been a nice echo of the Anakin/Obi-Wan split. I do like the theme of rejecting your toxic origins and deliberately choosing the light, but they could have done that differently.

#JediStormPilot #FinnReyPoe

[thewarinourstarwars]

Fix-It Fic: Shatterpoint— Chapter Seven: The Temple

Summary

Rey heard several myths and legends while waiting on Jakku. As she's beginning to find out, there's always a bit of truth in legends.

Content Warning: This chapter contains three references to the eye gore that occurs in the Treverrow Script, aka Duel of the Fates. I sanitized the reference but please take care. 

Excerpt

Rey did not sleep well that night. Tossing and turning, she was in and out of consciousness, with her dreams, brief as they were, flashes of nightmares.

—she tried to run after the ship, but Plutt’s meaty hand had a good grip on her bony little arm.

“Come back!” She screamed. “NO!”

“Quiet girl—“

—why had she said something stupid? “You’ll have to come back for that.” Those were the last words she’d ever said to him. She’d taunted fate, and how had he felt, knowing that she refused to kiss him once last time—

—why was he saying these things? The side of her head burned, and there was a metallic taste in the air. He was calling her a monster, in a horrifying role-reversal. He loved her, she thought—

—she screamed, falling onto the steps, so close to their goal. She couldn’t see, she was bleeding—

—he died. He died to save her, their last kiss on her lips, haunted by the memory of his smile—

It was early in the morning when Rey had decided to give up on the idea of sleep altogether. When she opened the door to her wardrobe, she saw one outfit— hooded and white, it looked just like what she wore on Jakku.

It was exactly what she wore in her last nightmare, the one that frightened her the most. It had because it was the most real, the most vivid of all of them.

She pushed around, looking for something else— anything else— even her old clothes. But not even the sari was still in the room. Even though no one had come in or out in the night. At least, not when Rey was awake.

She reluctantly got dressed, slung her staff over her shoulders, clicked off the safety of her blaster, and polished her lightsaber.

As for her hair. . .

She decided not to tempt fate.

Ao3 | x |  FFNet | x |

#reylo #multiverse #alternate universe #How It Should Have Ended #fic: shatterpoint #fanfic #jacen solo #tahiri veila #rey palaptine #ben solo #kylo ren

[thegirlwholied]

I think it’s interesting as someone who haven’t been following the Star Wars movies as they come out if there has a been significant change in the stories since George Lucas stepped down. For example taking the prequels and sequels and comparing their shortfalls etc (of course there was many more people involved but in general the sense I get is that Lucas was very much the guy in control) but as I haven’t seen them yet I could be totally off as most of what I’m basing this on is secondhand info

so one of the things about Star Wars is it really highlights for me how, just because you love someone’s work, you may not love everything they do. I really like J.J. Abrams and I think Lawrence Kasdan’s a fantastic screenwriter; did not love Force Awakens and think the sequel trilogy’s issues are seeded there. Loved Rion Johnson’s Knives Out; didn’t love Last Jedi. George Lucas is responsible for 2 of my favorite franchises of all time. I so admire his vision. But!

one of the other things about Star Wars is how important editing and criticism is, and my take (and it’s not a unique one) is that I think he needed more of an editor. More collaboration & more criticism.

There’s not one magical thing or person I think could’ve changed/fixed the prequels- and Lucas did apparently talk to other screenwriters who didn’t want to step on his toes (...OR could some tell he had a very set vision & there wasn’t room to bring their own? No idea, but I can imagine quite a bit) 

There is this anecdote from Lawrence Kasdan, sourced here, emphasis mine:

There were many times over the ensuing years when George [asked] me to be involved in all three [prequels]. He said, 'Hey, how would you like to write such-and-such?' I said, 'George, aren’t you supposed to start shooting in two weeks, in Australia?' He said, 'Yeah, but it’s not too late,'" Kasdan recalled.

...yeah I think a rewrite, or multiple rewrites, was needed, and no one else was in a position to insist. It’s extra interesting in the context of Rogue One & Solo, both bringing someone in ~ to different degrees of takeover ~ for final changes. 

I don’t dive too deep into the behind-the-scenes stuff but it’s clear Maria Lucas’ editing and the actors’ own improvisations and tweaks, also Carrie Fisher’s fledgling script doctoring career, played a shaping role in the original trilogy. AND Lucas only wrote/directed the first one, whereas the prequels were all his in a different way. I get why he’s defensive of them, and I get the impulse to want to continue editing his work, but I also think he’s not capable of being objective about it... because if Lucas could be objective about Star Wars, we’d have an accessible, restored version of the Star Wars movies as originally released and not just the Special Editions. (I’m very thankful my parents bought the VHS way back in 1995, aka the last release of the OG movies, as that’s pretty much the only version I’ve ever watched and I always forget the changes exist until stopping on one of the OT movies on TV. Let’s say I do not find the changes artful.) There has to be a time when you stop making tweaks & let the world have the thing you made... and, the world already loved the thing Lucas made!

I’m always intrigued by the what-might-have-been cuts of movies but I don’t think there’s a guarantee they’d be better... i.e., all the hype over the Snyder Cut, though I’m certainly intrigued to see a tonally-consistent version of Justice League. Would I have liked Lord & Miller’s Solo better? Would I have liked Treverrow’s  Rise of Skywalker better? Would I have liked a George Lucas helmed sequel trilogy? Eh. I’ll never know, anymore than I’ll know if I would have loved the Roswell TV show even more if Heath Ledger had gotten a lead role (yes, Roswell almost cast Heath Ledger, and yes, that is my #1 ‘if I could get DVDs from an alternate universe’ wishlist item, and yes, I am apparently such a movie/TV geek that the different filmmaking is one of my first AU thoughts). 

There’s that weird balance between “oversight in making sure a movie aligns with a franchise” and “artistic freedom”, and my instinct is always to side with artistic freedom, but also... when it’s part of a continuing story? I’m not suggesting studio meddling here but simply a writing team. It was a trilogy. Why were they playing pass-the-baton with the story, why didn’t a writers’ team get involved in storyboarding all three from the beginning?? The extent to which Last Jedi shut down elements from Force Awakens, and then Rise of Skywalker did the same to elements of Last Jedi, is... actually comical. And baffling. I feel they were trying to recreate the way the original trilogy was made and that’s... trying to recapture lightning. Lightning’s fickle. Maybe it will strike twice, but even if it does, don’t expect it to strike the same exact way, and trying to imitate it exactly to entice it becomes only a recreation, a lesser-replay of the original strike. 

I feel like I kind of...get why the prequels are the way they are, what Lucas was trying for & the elements that just don’t click for me, whereas with the sequels I don’t get how it was screwed up. And it was, for me:  I’ll forever be a little sad about the state of the Star Wars galaxy’s actual future vs. where Return of the Jedi left us.  

Just my take! I think there’s lessons to be learned from Star Wars Past, both good and bad; I’m enjoying the Mandalorian in Star Wars Present; and I have, always, hope for Star Wars Yet to Come. It is, anyway, all Star Wars.

#star wars #star wars writing #star wars ot #guess who's procrastinating work today #also my childhood dream was writing Star Wars and the fact that writers out there are being handed new!EU Star Wars books #new movies and shows galore are being made #...and i am nowhere in the vicinity of any of those things #does make me question my life and choices yeah

[finns-poe]

I am SO disgusted I just saw a post that said poe should have given the ring to rey and that colin treverrow’s script not being used was a robbery because they would have k*ssed twice🤢🤢i’m leaving this realm i’m tired I DIDN’T KNOW DAMER*YS EXISTED WTF

please say sike...😔😔

#answered #I try to avoid d*merey content #let's just all agree that poe is in love with fi-😶 #also are they forgetting rey and poe literally just met at the end of tlj Im- #Anonymous

[unexpectedreylo]

It’s Been A Crazy Day

First up that news conference.  It was a bit more subdued than I had expected.  Daisy talked about doing “very emotional scenes” with Adam (no kidding) and Adam was afraid to say anything even with the one question he got asked.  For me the highlight was Carrie’s spirit dimming the lights right when J.J. Abrams started talking about her and Adam looking like he was legit scared.  I wonder if stuff like this happened a lot on the set of TROS. 

Next, stuff about Colin Treverrow’s TROS script revealing--supposedly--that Rey’s mother was Ben Solo’s nanny though apparently neither Ben nor Rey remember each other.  Really?  Really???  No wonder Kathleen Kennedy kanned him.  I would’ve too.  Seriously, the worst Reylo story...no, the worst Kylux crack van epic you can find on A03 would be an Oscar winner compared to that nonsense.

While we’re on the topic of bad Star Wars fan fic by supposed professionals, SyFy posted what various Star Wars novelists and comic book writers would’ve written as their Skywalker Saga finales.  OMG they are BAD.  BAD.  BAD.  BAD.  Lucasfilm just needs to hire Reylo fan fic writers because we get this stuff way better than these “pros” do.  Was the point of this to make us say, “Thank Jesus we got J.J. Abrams and Chris Terrio instead?”  Because I think it is.  The grand prize winner in this bad Star Wars fiction contest is Alan Dean Foster, who made Rey a damn robot, explaining why she was so good at the Force.  Kylo is so disgusted with Robo-Rey, he decides he needs to destroy her.  I think if Foster and Treverrow co-wrote the TROS script, we’d get a combo of “The Nanny” and “Small Wonder.”

Last but probably not least since it’s only 3 p.m. PST where I am, fans figured Twitter’s mysterious Kira is a fakety-fake.  She’d posted something that seemed to give away the actors’ schedule as though she was responding to a DM but accidentally posted it publicly through her “stan account” which supposedly was a secret to her employers.  She deleted the tweet, then her account.

She took fans in because she was “nice,” positive, and supportive.  She debunked the “leaks” and well, we wanted reassurance.  Fans wanted to believe her though one could never be sure someone is who she says she is based on an anonymous account.  I was never sure.  She was slick enough not to be a know it all like Jedi Paxil or JW and show off how much she knew though even with what she was posting, I thought she was exposing herself to being discovered anyway.  But she slipped up with this “slip up” tweet.  It was too much and who mixes up DMs from a non-anonymous account with a stan account?  The funny thing are some of these blue checkers are saying, “Oh I always knew she was a fake” and I’m wondering why didn’t they say so before instead of crowing about it now?  

The moral of the story is those who do know aren’t going to tell you jack.  

Update:  Turns out the Treverrow “nanny” plot originated with Making Star Wars and if I’d known that I would’ve never have bought it.  Turns out it’s a total lie.

#reylo #reylo fandom #reylo fam

[deanpinterester]

not to get sucked back into Star Wars discourse but there’s that alleged leaked original screenplay for Episode 9 by Colin Treverrow (called Duel of the Fates) and i was just mindlessly scrolling through it, and then i saw

listen.....i don’t care if this script would have been better or worse than Rise of Skywalker.....this is a LIGHTSABER GUILLOTINE discussion now

#uhhhh me #star wars