#twst negative

[aquaburst3]

I was talking with some others on my TWST server about how Vil and Neige's dynamic doesn't work. One of the members pointed out something that I never thought of before. The NRC team should've WON the VDC. Hear me out.

Part of the problem with that arc is that Vil never truly realizes how fruitless his one-sided rivalry with Neige actually is. Vil and Neige's dynamic reminds me a lot of Lance's dynamic with Keith from Voltron. They both fall flat for the same reason—neither Vil or Lance truly realize that they're using their rivalry as an outlet for their personal insecurities and thusly never grow as people.

While Vil knows that he's in the wrong, hence why he says that he's "ugly" when he overblots, the narrative goes out of the way to validate him. By making him lose by a single vote on Rook's part, it casts him as a victim, feeding into his mindset even more. He can go, "Look, look! I lost. It's all Neige's fault. He must pay for stealing for what is rightfully mine." That makes him loopback to square one and never grow as a person.

Instead Vil should've gotten everything that he wanted. He should've won the competition, but it doesn't feel like the sweet victory that he thought it would be. That's when he realizes that wasn't the validation he was actually looking for, and he was only using Neige as an outlet for his own demons. He apologizes to Neige for how he was acting, which Neige forgives him for.

#aqua rambles #twisted wonderland #vil schoenheit #twst critical #twst negative #...kinda

[suntails]

idolatry

#the absurd unhealthy levels of devotion sebek has is so interesting. silver too but in a different way. sebeks is so blatant so OVERT #i think it would be rly fun (awful) if book7 had OB malleus and sebek having to choose whether or not to go against his lord. and thing is #im half convinced he'd still pick malleus. i think malleus could be mid OB and wrecking the world out of his mind and sebek would still pick #to be by his side. even knowing hes wrong. even seeing the negative repercussions live. i think he could #like i dont quiiite see twst going that dark realistically. like sebek was willing to fight malleus in halloween 2 thinking he was possessed #tho it could be argued he only fought BECAUSE he thought it wasnt malleus too. idk just food for thought #i want to know Why sebek idolizes malleus and lilia so much. its implied bc theyre fae but i want an inciting incident backstory #twst #twisted wonderland #sebek zigvolt #malleus draconia #do i get to tag malleus? his portrait is there.....its my post i do whatever i want #non silver art for once. dont get used to it. this is silver nation im sure he'll be back soon #suntails

[k-looking-glass-house]

...... been sitting on my chair for hours since it's my "break" week-end.............. My brain ....isn't sleeping.... Vargas I am sorry it was supposed to be your birthdayyyy huuuh (6th April!) But..... Tapis Rouge....Luxe Couture....

The little rabbit...in full Gu*ci... yes ....the gems sneaker I was dying for.... And ....the pattern of the trendy bag from 2000/10's...... I can't no more....

....

I all time knew my test about rendering would be useful one day.... The palette eyeshadow.... Yes...

....... yes

#Vargas sorryyyy I'll do something later anyhow happy birthday Coach!! #k oswald junior 101 #twst tapis rouge #....now I need to go to bed.... #the outfit was such a nice thing to wash my brain from negative infos...

[br3adtoasty]

🦋 [ Tommel Belinda - Dorm Uniform ] 🦋 [GROOOOVY!!]

“Well hi there, little guy! Spring has finally arrived it seems.”

Pre-groovy

#love drawing the butterflies but. never again #also the background /neg #can u guys find the hidden mickey 👁️ #twst #twst oc #twst rsa #rsa #rsa oc #royal sword academy #royal sword academy oc #twisted wonderland #twisted wonderland oc #tommel belinda #my art

[certainstarfishsandwich]

#twst #twisted wonderland #lilia vanrouge #malleus draconia #diasomnia #twst fanart #twst art #bro has negative rizz #imagine fumbling not one but TWO mfs bro 😭😭😭 #and then they all die in one night #i wouldve collapsed into dust then and there.

[devilbeez]

I caved and drew the character I swore I wouldn’t draw (repost)

#I have negative coloration with the word #redesign #so I’m just gonna call this reimagining #especially when this is like— #a type of add on/fix it type of project #I hate him but I do genuinely want him to be a better character #and his design is just— a person thing that bugged me cause I didn’t like how boxy his silhouette look #if Che’nya can have style with the same exact material #so can literally every other one off characters from RSA #disney twisted wonderland #twisted wonderland #twst #twst Neige #neige leblanche #twisted wonderland neige #devilg04 #digital art #art

[honeyuuyuu]

fading... frozen... fading...away...

Instagram  ✎  Devianart  ✎ Reblogs help! ^^  

#lilia vanrouge #lilia vanrouge fanart #twst #twisted wonderland #twst chapter 7 #twisted wonderland chapter 7 #twst spoilers #twst chapter 7 spoilers #twst fanart #twisted wonderland fanart #been awhile #and i heard of the update on discord #holy fucking shit- #lilia losing his powers is gonna bring me to my knees #negatively- #honey.artworks🍀 #diasomnia #diasomnia fanart

[sleepdeprivedandoverthinking]

If I see them being shipped I may need to commit a human rights violation

#fellow honest #twisted wonderland #twst #ferro honest #twst gidel #gidel #gideru #for legal reasons this is a joke #/neg btw

[jangmi-latte]

good boy

#twisted wonderland #twst #rook hunt #pomefiore #THERE IS NOT ONE NEGATIVE EMOTION THE NUI IS PERMANENTLY JUST ^_^ #IT'S SO CUTE IT'S JUST AS HYPER AS HIM #IT'S OUR CHILD

[lowcallyfruity]

SEBEK AND EPEL SIT TOGETHER AT LUNCHHHHH

GREEN APPLE SEBEPEL WINNNNN WINNNNN

Yes Jack is there too but this isn’t about him

#in my head Epel is one of the few people that doesn’t want to kill Sebek Everytime he speaks and actually tolerates his existence #like I feel like characters always react to Sebek negatively but Epel has always been like 👍 when it comes to Sebek??? #at least from what I’ve seen????? #ANYWAYS #I think they’re the best of friends ever in canon #like idk. they enjoy each others company #Epel doesn’t mind Sebek and Sebek respects Epel a lot #it also makes sense why Jack is in their table too!! #I believe jack is also one of the few people Sebek respects and nfnfndnffn #though I’m pretty sure he has spoken negatively about Sebek too tho #he’s also Epel’s friend so yeah #like I genuinely think Epel is like one of the very very very few people that are nice to Sebek 😭😭 #ANYWAYSSSS #SEBEPEL NATION WINNNNN #<333 #twst #twisted wonderland #💛!me talking💀 #disney twisted wonderland #sebek zigvolt #epel felmier #jack howl #sebepel #sebek x epel #epel x sebek #sebeppy…..i love them…

[tinisprout]

EAT MY LOVE

My OC gifting chocolates because i can

#i have negative audience for this but whocare lol #twst #twisted wonderland #twst wonderland #twst fanart #twst grim #twst oc #twst malleus #twst lilia #twst sebek #twst silver #twst riddle #twst ace #twst deuce #twst cater #twst trey #twst leona #twst jack #twst ruggie #twst azul #twst floyd #twst jade #twst kalim #twst jamil #twst vil #twst epel #twst rook #twst idia #twst ortho #my art

[aquaburst3]

One debate going around on TWST Tumblr is about the OB boys and how the narrative handles them. On one side, we have someone saying that the OB boys' actions towards Yuu are shitty, horrible and traumatizing, so that the game should take time out to have Yuu lash out at them and have the boys "compensate Yuu for their actions". Some people agreed with that OP. One person in the replies of that post even went as far as to say that they quit playing the game based on that fact. On the other side, we have a person replying to that take basically rebutting that statement. They believe that the game shouldn't condemn them for their actions, and that we aren't meant to read their actions as scaring. Another portion of the fandom agreed with them. (No, I'm not tagging anyone for obvious reasons.) Personally, I'm somewhere in the middle between those extremes.

On one hand, we all came into this game knowing that they are based on Disney Villains, right? So, what the hell do some people expect? The NRC boys to be lovable Disney heroes with a heart of gold? Of course, they are gonna be morally grey anime pretty boys, who do some questionable actions. That's the whole fucking point of the game. xD

I also agree with that second OP that expecting "compensation" from people who were dicks towards you is not how life works. Sometimes people are just dicks towards you and you have to move on. Hell, I think characters like Vil compensated Yuu to a realistic amount where they acknowledged their actions, apologized and tried to make it up to them. I don't know what else some people want here.

On the other hand, I think this is one example of a HUGE flaw with the writing —the static characters and them having zero consequences for their actions, including their fucked up ones. Something I noticed in the game for awhile now is that most of the time, it completely brushes off the boys' actions and they get only a slap on the wrist. It's not just in cases of OBs either, it's in general. Almost Thanos Snap your friend? He instantly forgives you. Almost suck out the magic out of people and want to do it to the world? Nothing happens other than "forcing you to live with your guilt". Almost turn people into living puppets? You are allowed to get away scott free without anyone being the least bit mad about being almost subjected to a fate worse than death. You see what I mean? It's fucking laughable and unrealistic. Actions always have consequences, and so should theirs', whether they are based on villains or not. To be blunt, it's shitty writing. Plain and simple. Unless you are writing a flat arc, characters need to change and develop. It can be for the better or worse. But there has to be...something. Otherwise what the fuck is the point of having a story?

You can have both. You can write morally grey teen/young adult characters in a coming of age story AND have them have realistic consequences for their actions and grow and change. The Crows prove that.

The Crows from Six of Crows parallel the NRC students in a lot of ways. They are both in the same age range. (Even though, I think aging them up to be in their 20s and early 30s in the show was a smart move, since you can buy a guy in his late 20s being a powerful gang lord over a teenager. I think that's part of the reason why aging up the NRC boys to be 20-somethings in university is so popular in this fandom. It's much easier to buy Azul as a 20-something owning the lounge, for example. But that's besides the point.) Both have morals and care about a select few while being rather questionable. Both have done some VERY fucked up actions. For example, Kaz pulls out a guy's eyeball at one point. One key difference is that the Crows are more dynamic as characters and have actual consequences for their actions.

For example, Kaz is a hardened criminal who only shows his softer side to a select few. However, at the end of Crooked Kingdom, Inej, the woman he endlessly simps after and cares about a lot, says that she needs time away from him, joining a crew to find her lost family. The reason why he did this? Because he was emotionally constipated and needed to work on his issues more before getting into a relationship with her. That is a very real consequence for his actions and how he treated others. Hell, the way I interpreted that bit is that whenever she came back, she would be more ready to be in a relationship with him. (We would've gotten that in a SOC series. Thanks a lot, Netflixs!) There are plenty of other examples like that in the series. The group doesn't instantly let in Mattias into the fold thanks to him hunting down other Grisha before, tension forms between Jesper and Wylan thanks to the love triangle between them and Kuwei, etc.

The game could've done something like that. Have them still be morally grey people, but have fallout for some of their actions and have to earn their redemption. Do more things like what happened to Vil in Book 6...but have it actually make sense and not a stupid deus ex machina to make Malleus look like a Gary Stu. (God, the whole "Vil turning into an old man thing was fucking stupid.)

Plus, these guys are based on VILLAINS, so you'd think that characters like Ruggie would be more angry and want revenge. The fact that they quickly forgive and forget makes no sense in that regard as well. Hell, I'm still surprised that Ace, Leona and Vil never got mad at Honest Fellow or called him out in the new event. I thought they would try to kill him for what he did given the fact that they are based on villains. That's what the Crows would've done.

While, yes, I think part of this is due to the game's design as a gatcha. Plus, they want to make the boys as appealing to the player as possible in order to entice them pay more, so that includes not focusing on some of their deeds. However, I also think part of this is due to Yana herself.

During the 2020 guidebook interview, Yana said that she honestly believes that the boys' only appeal is that they are "bad" and they should always remain that way. So part of the reason why the game doesn't focus on that is because calling them out and having them change would go against her own mentality as a writer, because "character development=bad" to her, which hampers the story on all levels. That's why I think the light novel was able to dive into this aspect—Yana's not behind it, somebody else is. So, yes. Yana shares a chunk of the blame as well as the head writer, and is yet another example of her being a terrible one.

Another problem is that Yuu's lack of presence and blase attitude towards everything. The aren't phased by anything that happens to them in the narrative. It's not just the OBs either, but in general. On the first night, they have a GOOD night sleep despite being thrown into another world. When their home is destroyed in Book 6, they simply don't care. Like...what? Who acts like that? They have no impact on the events and mostly act as an observer, being more like the Crew in The Office than a fucking character. Hell, my toothbrush has more of a presence then Yuu! Again, it's shitty writing.

So, yeah. I think the side wanting these guys to be paragons of virtue or to make them repay Yuu for their actions is asinine. But at the same time, I think that Yuu's unrealistic responses to things, the character stagnation and them not having any real consequences to their actions is holding the story back. While I don't think the characters should beg for forgiveness from Yuu or go to rehab or something stupid like that, I think they should have some setbacks as a result of their actions that they have to work overcoming instead of moving on to the next boy. This should be a coming of age story, so that's a basic requirement that Yana is intentionally not meeting thanks to her own stupid mentality.

#twst negative #twst critical #aqua rambles #twisted wonderland

[theraedar]

carefree summer days ☀️☁️🐟

#twisted wonderland #twst oc #twisted wonderland oc #ace trappola #deuce spade #my art #lorel #i had this in my drafts since may 2020 LOL #my org composition had the sky as a panel in the negative space in the grass which is the ver i posted on twitter #i like this format better but it only works nicely on tumblr lmao 😭

[nrc-counselor]

Every time I see “Leona is too lazy to do [insert everyday task] or [insert something you do in a healthy relationship]” I lose a year off my life. 

I swear that if it wasn’t canon, you all would think that Leona is too ‘lazy’ to go to Spelldrive training or even compete in it. It also just shows how people in this fandom view depression and its very irritating. 

#twst leona kingscholar #leona kingscholar #twisted wonderland #leona x reader #It's like yall don't even like him #his whole Fanon depiction is just what if we took every negative stereotype about depression and just kept saying it over and over again #Like damn #leona kingscholar x reader #please stop

[pinkcadavart]

Someone get this guy away from me

#traditional #twst #twisted wonderland #che'nya #chenya #artemiy artemiyevich pinker #i hate how much negative space I got left but im sooooo eepy and crashing from zoomies 💔💔💔💔💔💔 #fanart

[justanotherfanfolks]

Tried to take a screenshot of my game...

#twisted wonderland #twst #epel felmier #lilia vanrouge #i was just trying to screenshot for my out of context blog! #screenshot fail #I love how they blink but is this a positive or a negative