#was being misdirected

[mindshelter]

“you go blank inside” babygirl. you are dissociating

the abuse that hal suffered at martin jordan’s hands (and words) are. pretty indispensable to understanding hal’s time as a GL leading up to becoming parallax... hal became part of the corps pre-conditioned and primed for easy indoctrination. despite recognizing martin’s behaviour as abusive, and hoping to never become like him, compliance at one’s own expense was all hal knew. it was what felt safe, what felt familiar, and made up that last tendril of sanity—the universe couldn’t be that cruel, and a parent wouldn’t be so hateful for no reason. there must be something hal can fix—can compromise—to be accepted. if only hal could have given martin what he wanted, whatever that may have been. if, if, if. 

fealty won’t earn you happiness—only survival. 

when that illusion finally crumbles—when the realization that decades of loyalty to the corps and to the long-deceased father has reaped zero reward—so does the remainder of hal’s belief system. 

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1. dc comics presents: green lantern (2004)

Willpower. Absolute concentration. Split second timing. Where does that come from?

Instead it’s all feed in more trim and if you’re still nose-down, put your feet in the stirrups and blow the canopy before you red out. You do what you do. You go blank inside.

2. back issue #80, on Green Lantern

Fearless people tend to be cocksure of their actions and tend not to question anything, including authority. I recall a number of John Broome[-written] stories where Hal was totally (and happily) subservient to the Guardians of the Universe. 

3. zero hour: crisis in time (1994) #0

I used to be the errand boy for the Guardians of the Universe. It was a thankless job. I knew that. I had never asked for anything. 

The one time I did, I was denied. It dawned on my just how unfair the universe really was…

4. green lantern (1990) #63

Your rules. Your rules kept me from any happiness. I served the corps more faithfully than anyone, and my loyalty got me nothing. 

5. dc comics presents: green lantern (2004)

Like what you learn at the end of someone’s arm. You learn to go blank. 

Like maybe things with him would change if could just give him what he wants. If you would just take it like a man. But nothing ever did change. He just kept calling you a loser. And if he ever had a warmer opinion, you never heard about it. You took that like a man, too. 

6. back issue #80, on Green Lantern

I always believe it is very hard for people to actually change their personalities. So the best Hal could do was reach a happy medium, intellectually realizing he should be feeling differently about a situation, but emotionally having trouble doing so.

7. dc comics presents: green lantern (2004)

I don’t think I can do this anymore. “Fearless.” It’s all a crock.

8. green lantern (1990) #50

9. dc comics presents: green lantern (2004)

You go blank inside. 

Maybe sometimes that’s all that stands between this thing on my finger and the hot green end of everything. 

#i have NO idea if this makes any sense at all but. yeah. hal's character arc makes me crazy actually #hal jordan #martin jordan #dc #green lantern #comic blogging #another day of pretending the parallax parasite retcon doesn't exist because this is infinitely more compelling #and a perfect conduit to provide commentary on anti-authoritarianism through characters like kyle #instead of. you know. the green lantern corps as space cops #anyway. yeah. hal is extremely traumatized and evidently got zero support for it for decades. tfw you're in your forties and #your inner child believes that there was something wrong with YOU and that if you just behaved RIGHT and became what your dad wanted #he wouldn't have hated your guts #resentment was already brewing but emerald twilight was really all about the realization that all that self-hatred and blame #was being misdirected #and now it has nowhere to go except everywhere. it's spilling out. overflowing. the world is wrong and hal can fix it! #i'll make everything better! everyone gets to be happy but not in this SHITSTAIN universe #just you guys wait and see #you'll understand eventually. you all will. just like i did.

[genderkoolaid]

i think trans-affirming cisfeminism's problem is that it views trans people as a way of analyzing cis gender relations, so trans women are going from the status of cis men to cis women, & trans men vice-versa. there is no appreciation for "trans" as its own status, because that would require viewing transphobia as something the patriarchy does on purpose instead of like. something it trips into on its quest to oppress cis women exclusively. and this is also why by and large feminism (including trans feminists) has fucked sucked at talking about NB/GQ people's experiences without binarizing them

#m. #honestly i think understanding all of the different versions of transphobia #are vital to understanding transphobia holistically #like the idea that that trans people are patriarchal bycatch is very similar #to the idea that trans men are never targeted on purpose & only experience ''misdirected'' oppression #the need to force trans experiences into the cis man/cis woman binary is a form of exorsexism #i think a lot more has been said abt transmisogyny but the idea of trans people as being acceptable victims of #violence bc we arent ''real women'' or ''real men'' #something something this is why: #transunity

[herssian]

heavensward

#art #ffxiv #xau #fray myste #final fantasy xiv #doodle #comic #it won't come back to bite you later on. i promise the anger won't be bottled and misdirected towards unhealthy copying mechanisms #especially during stormblood #i promise #i love fray's go-to advice being slap some bitches and you'll calm down

[tibli]

There's something to be said about Meta Knight having classically "demonic" features but embodying traits like honor and justice VS. Galacta Knight having classically "angelic" features but being an aggressive force of destruction and malice. something something Dark is Not Evil/Light is Not Good.

#kirby #meta knight #galacta knight #i just love galacta knight's inclusion in the series as a DIRECT foil to meta knight #like. ok listen #even when meta knight was the villain in ROMK he still clung to his code of honor #he tried to take over dreamland out of misdirected anger and even then he still maintained his desire for fairness via his duel w kirby #conversely: #galacta knight is heavily implied to be one of the Heroes of Yore who sealed away void termina #and effectively saved the universe #but he was also feared for his power and sealed away #tbf we dont know how GKs personality was before being sealed away for ages #its possible he was fair and just #but i personally am of the idea that his justice came in the form of a righteous cataclysmic fury #and that his code of honor was strict to the point of being outright draconian at times #so he was sealed to prevent the inevitable switch from righteous fury to simply fury #idk how to get my point across but i hope you understand my vision

[corallapis]

@veraynes-blog the idea of them sharing one fobwatch is eating my brain. what if we put both of our souls in the same little box and locked it up tight. what if when we got them back out again there was little bits of me mixed up in you and little bits of you mixed up in me <3

#tbh the master would find it so hot. #with his thing for trying to steal the doctor's body/lives/trying to become the doctor. that all-consuming love that drives you not just #to want to be everything to that person but to BE them. to subsume them completely. #(dhawan's line is a misdirection imo. he's not upset about part of the doctor being within in him but rather that it's not reciprocal. #she has had lives outside of his. there is no matching piece of him inside of her.) #doctor x master #dw

[spitblaze]

Okay. I have obtained more information. I'm unfortunately not too surprised to learn about a group of shitheads co-opting transmasc language to do their toxic masculine bullshit. They suck ass. Whether they leaned into the attitudes as some twisted signifier of maleness, are perpetuating misogyny and transmisogyny for short term benefits that are entirely not worth it, or were just...already shitheads, they suck ass, and they have no goddamn excuse to harass trans women and contribute to the bullshit they already have to endure. We're all on the same team here, you're not helping.

Now that I better understand! I get why trans women are suddenly more apprehensive of people using those words. please understand that their function is not to deny trans women their experiences and struggles, but to give our own experiences and struggles language. people who wield accusations of bigotry as petty cudgels are, pretty universally, shitheads, and I hope we can at least agree on that.

#spitblaze says things #that being said if this whole debacle has lead you to suddenly believe that transmascs and trans men dont face meaningful oppression #thats. it isnt true. im sorry but its not true. its not just 'misdirected misogyny' and its not just garden variety transphobia. #theres no reason we shouldnt be able to have language to discuss the sort of issues we face

[kitsquared]

I've been memeing on Dazai and leaning on the theories that's its all his plan he's doing this to convince fyodor and Sigma etc but it didn't hit me at all till watching episode 8 that he may have been genuinely trying to reach Chuuya by mentioning their partnership

Like I do think Dazai was being honest in that speech but the anime has made me think he is trying to get into chuuya's head and ch 109 kept springing up in my mind while watching

That implies that there isn't a 100% certainty he's conscious yet in ch 109

But Dazai has already placed his trust and life on Chuuya at that point too

#its wild. Im really hung up over this i need to ramble in the tags to get it off my chest #bsd spoilers #(kit)^2 #chuuya isnt conscious but Chuuya's life is in Dazai's hands in this dangerous plan #which is one main reason its upsetting to dazai #since dazai is always upfront of the high stakes in the situations theyre in and asks for Chuuya's agreement on plans #chuuya got dragged into this. Chuuya is being used without his knowledge. As a weapon and as something that is not human #and dazai knows? predicts? that theyll survive the drowning room #but chuuya doesnt know that #doesnt know dazai isnt trying to kill him. That dazai has to trust fyodor to have a plan to survive yknow #the two scenes in his flashback are when they both understood each other. When it was life or death #so dazai is trying to project that. try to get chuuya to understand that this is a plan #To trust their partnership and history together that they will get out of this #And then later. Once more brings it up #After also seeing that he got a reaction from commenting on chuuya's punches #He was entrusted with chuuyas life and now he entrusts his with chuuya who is still vampirized ?? #And it's some dead apple level of trust #...all this with the belief that's its all according to dazais plan #Rambling #My boy really had a misdirection an apology and a plea in one speech #Bsd #I'm going off by vibes. We still don't know the truth

[theygender]

I love being T4T. My gf has been on estrogen for a couple weeks now and she's been having a rough time with her mood so I'm teaching her about the ancient art of soaking in a bubble bath with a little drink to sip while watching shows on your laptop

#pro-tip for any girls newly on E. this is The Cure for PMS #(which accurately describes what youre going through btw) #other great cures include putting on nice smelling lotion and fuzzy socks and wrapping yourself in a blanket burrito/nest #also eating lots of chocolate or other sweets and drinking your favorite caffeinated beverages #my mom used to always put on lotion and fuzzy socks and drink dr pepper and eat chocolate #my cousin likes to watch netflix in the bath with wine and then get in a blanket burrito with her favorite lemonade tea #if youve got someone to take care of you then you dont even have to come out of the burrito. you can just ask them to bring you things #all of these methods help a lot. we're experts on this you can trust me (family of people with endometriosis) #also if youre having headaches and bloating and stomach pain you might try midol (generic works fine) #it has acetaminophen for pain + caffeine for headaches (like excedrin) + antihistamine for bloating #also to clarify: i said girls newly on E only bc i figured girls who have been on it for a while might have already figured this stuff out #but PMS is by no means exclusive to transfems who have newly started on E #many transfems have reported getting PMS symptoms and even cramps on a monthly basis after being on estrogen for a while #this is bc after a while on E your body can start naturally making more estrogen and this can come with its own hormone cycle #and as a result you can essentially get all of the symptoms of a period just without the actual bleeding #(this can include cramps bc even in cis women the signals for the muscle spasms can sometimes get misdirected to nearby organs— #unfortunately causing stomach issues as well) #so if anyone out there happens to not already know this information and youve been feeling like shit periodically for seemingly no reason #now you know 😅 #its your period #rambling

[i3utterflyeffect]

Also, noogai would try so hard to talk to Alan's victim because he cares about his victim, despite the fact that they don't always get along, especially in the beginning. But this victim won't hear any of it.

YEAH, alan!victim probably hurts noogai MORE if anything because he won't fucking shut up, what's so hard to UNDERSTAND? are they just trying to escape the inevitable payback? the idea that they could have potentially even been neutral towards alan completely eludes them at that moment

and then once they find out their counterpart is friends with Noogai, they just completely SNAP-- how could someone be so pathetic as to go through all of that and not fight back?! they've gone through ALL THIS WORK, and their counterpart is coming in to RUIN this?

#tommy's foolery #tommy's stickmen tag #it's also part of why i think canon victim hates chosen so much #went through all the same things but still aided their creator tin the end #WHY? why would anyone EVER want to help alan aside from the ones being misdirected and lied to? #tommy's stick!alan #tommy's aus #stick!noogai

[chirpsythismorning]

#byler #stranger things #twelvegate #something something time fuckery #something something it seems like lonnie could be both el and will’s dad… #however I think this could be a misdirect… #bc something’s not right… #I feel like if we’re dealing with a time loop in some shape form #apparently Henry doesn’t want Will and el to know each other… #this is what I’ve been saying about byler evidence also low key being willel wondertwin evidence #we’ve always associated Will going missing in s1 and el disappearing in s2 #as Mike being able to handle their relationships separately and how that came to a head in s3 then s4 #and how they did that to show mike can’t juggle both of their relationships the way he’s attempting to (el romantic/Will platonic) #but I think it’s actually also interesting that Will and el are kept apart for so long… #and then finally when they’re together it’s like all of these memories are surfacing for el… #around March 22nd… #and the fact that what saved her back in 79 was the memory of her birth… #I just think that’s so interesting… #in combination with the repetition of 7/5 test subjects tattoos being the only ones focused on in every flashback #and all the twin imagery #it’s like they’re subconsciously remembering each other #maybe vecna realized the only way this could work is if they didn’t know each other #even to the point of ‘putting them against each other’… #reminds me of that shot of 11 & 12 at the basketball game #but I don’t think it’s going to work… #I think Will and el are too selfless and love each other too much to do what Henry and the audience expects #el is also going to realize that she has even stronger familial love for Will than she ever had romantic feelings for Mike #and you know what this also means?? #remember the crazy together scene? ‘they wouldn’t understand..’ ‘eleven would’ 🤯 SHE WOULD!!

[fullscoreshenanigans]

Is CloverWorks entirely at fault for TPN S2's mangled production?

I see so many people default to blaming CloverWorks for being the sole arbiter of S2's horribly disappointing production (sometimes Shirai is added into the mix too, especially by anime-onlys), but every time I do I'm genuinely asking the question of whether that's true and where they're pulling their information from.

I'm not involved in the animation industry at all so I'm interested in receiving input from people who are more familiar with it, but my understanding is the people in charge of the decision to truncate S2 would be The Promised Neverland Committee listed at the end of the opening credits.

(I could not find a single video of the English dub that aired on [adult swim] for the English credits of S1, so a screencap from the Japanese credits)

TPN Committee is comprised of the following entities: Aniplex (Distributor), Fuji TV (TV Station), Shueisha (Manga Publisher), Cygames Anime Fund, Dentsu (ads)

(Sources 1 | 2 | 3)

kViN from Sakugabooru details what a production company is in this post:

"I personally find it enjoyable to see who is involved in a show, and as you’ve seen there is plenty of information to draw from that. Animation production studios are listed in the credits for each show, so it’s understandable why audiences would imagine they have a ton of influence over a production. It’s even natural to think that the company that is actually manufacturing something would have great input! If you start paying attention to these committees though, you get a clearer picture of the finances of production and how each show is actually made rather than assume that studios that often don’t have much of a say are in charge of everything."

And CloverWorks is the more prominent name, especially for English speakers watching the subbed version of the series.

This is also something that Geoff Thew brings up in the last seven minutes of this video around the 18:50 mark:

"I'd bet good money that the last credits were supposed to roll right after that big stone door slammed shut, and I'd further wager that a combination of fan reactions to and dipping ratings for early episodes is what caused the production committee—who are the ones who actually have final say in this, not Cloverworks or even Shirai—to cut their losses and turn that cliffhanger into a skeleton of a conclusion."

I disagree with him on them making the call to retool the series during the clipshow episode between S2e05 and S2e06 though. It doesn’t seem like they had enough time to do that when a single episode of animation takes on average nine months to complete, even with the ridiculous crunch they seemed to be in. My guess is it was made back in early 2020 after Shirai made everyone involved in production aware the manga was ending that year, with the pandemic potentially factoring in to a degree.

He also mentions this a bit earlier:

"It's just such a slap in face to anyone who ever gave a shit about any version of this story. Including the people telling it, apparently, since neither of the anime's screenwriters nor mangaka/series composer Shirai wanted to take credit for the last two episodes. They probably didn't have much say in how it all went down. That's important to keep in mind before you start yelling at animators or even studios on twitter. I guarantee that every adaption that hurts you personally was ten times harder on the people who actually had to make it. As hackishily slapdash as this finale is, a lot of people probably slept under their desks to get it out the door, if they slept at all."

I always come back to this tiny addition toward the end of S2 episode 2 as an indication that on the creative side of things, in storyboarding and animation at CloverWorks, the care was still there at some level.

It was just squashed down in order to cut and condense 146 chapters into 11 episodes for a production that, as ZersEditor puts here, was "bleeding money."

But CloverWorks is less to type out, so they get the majority of the ire over a tragically butchered production in casual conversation.

#The Promised Neverland #Yakusoku no Neverland #TPN #YnN #約束のネバーランド #約ネバ #Kaiu Shirai #CloverWorks #FSS Chatter #TPN S1 #TPN S2 #TPN S2e02 #Long Post #I'm not trying to portray CW as a saint of a studio because again I'm not involved in the industry so I don't know all the nuances to it #and this production of theirs is the one I'm most familiar with‚ with the other one being S×F for comparison #and like Ruby's pointed out in another post I can believe they're complacent in the lightening of skin tones for characters of color #as part of a larger industry-wide trend which is still shitty and should be critiqued #but I don't think they're the only ones guilty of this #so it kind of deflates me a bit when I see people comment on my posts taking a dig at CW #because it feels like a pithy comment of misdirected ire when the body of people actually at fault #get to continue on with their business of utilizing stories as investments to build up portfolios #instead of any genuine interest in a series' story or artistic merits #so then I kind of zone out even if I agree with the spirit of the sentiment of grieving over a series you care about #like “is it their fault? is it? are we talking about the same thing/on the same page here?” #tbf people are probably making more productive use of their time than I am #after delving into this for a sense of personal closure on how S2 turned out the way it did lol #but if anyone has any further reading on the subject or personal insight and feels like sharing I'd be interested #either in CW's favor or against

[jasontoddenthusiastt]

I always smh at people who dub Jason as “whiny” “and therefore ooc” in tt 29. If you died and all everyone did was taint your legacy, and not a single person remembered you fondly or deemed you worthy of commemoration after your death, wouldn’t you be a bit upset too?

#the only thing that was ooc about Jason there was all the shit talking the other characters were doing about him. #and some of the things Jason said about himself because he left whatever small amounts of self esteem he actually had back in his grave #he was very cooperative shy and clever with the titans in the 80s #it’s not enough that his own father told him to his face that he is a product of his own problems #everyone he knew and had good working relationships with just completely shut him out and turned their backs #even if you don’t mean it/it’s more complicated than that #if someone you knew died but now you got a chance to tell them what you couldn’t wouldn’t you at least muster up an ‘I’m glad you’re back’ #apparently not lol #kelseethe #it’s the fact that people label him *being upset* as ‘illogical’ or stupid that irks me #I was talking with a mutual about this too but #if a female character did exactly his actions #I don’t think people would be so quick to stomp all over her and call her weak/overbearing/hysterical #or to give her the dismissive patronizing eye roll treatment #even though they deemed her actions to be exaggerated/misdirected/an outburst by any standard #they’d probably say she’s written like an actual human and that she resonates with a lot of people haha #he evaded all their security systems and effectively took down anyone who was present in the tower. #I’d say his skills are pretty in-character. #the idea that men can get emotional is just not palatable to you people just admit it #if it isn’t silent brooding stoic manpain you people will projectile vomit all over it and call it ‘bad characterization’

[ghostcrows]

"it doesnt matter if the tme/tma terminology is imperfect" thats weird because literally every single word people have tried to come up with for anti transmasculine sentiment has been shut down for imperfect terminology so does the terminology need to be perfect or not. im just wondering why we make random exceptions like this

disclaimer that im not against tme/tma as terms and i understand needing to put words to how you specifically are targeted systematically for being at an intersection of two marginalized identities...but i find that so infuriatingly hypocritical

#like half the reason that they want a term for anti transmasc sentiment is BECAUSE we know that transmisogyny is not our word #why would we need nor want a word that is not accurate to us #we have an intersection of transphobia and misogyny too but it is markedly different in its execution #so we do not need to use that word #but that doesnt mean that its fair to say no you can 'just' say one or the other #its weird to call something transphobia and then not be allowed to elaborate any further #like all we are is the runoff of both misogyny and transphobia we are the 'misdirected targets' of either at all times #despite that not being true at all. we are very much specifically targeted by some groups of people

[bugbuoyx]

I think it's funny when people say trans men don't experience misogyny. I experience it alot as an out and proud and obvious trans person. Most folks are good, they don't blink an eye (even in the rural south) but for some you can see it like a switch. The biggest tell in my experience is they start treating you like the world's biggest idiot. Like you couldn't possibly know more than them about anything. I also tend to get babied, people stop letting me do things I was doing previously such as lifting heavy stuff and outdoorsy type work.

I just think it's ridiculous that the most basic elements of misogyny, elements that have been defined and discussed for years, no longer count as misogyny because it's directed at a trans guy. How do people even claim it's "misdirected" (which is such a bullshit word irt oppression) it's all very clearly directed at me for having formerly been a woman*. And what of my time spent living as a girl? Does all that misogyny mysteriously disappear, all of my former experiences rendered moot by the fact I'm now a guy*.

I haven't even gotten into how cis men can be misogynistic towards each other but rad fems and people who pretend they aren't rad fems but boil misogyny down to "woman only oppression" like to ignore that. What do you call it when a cis guy shames another guy by calling him a pussy? "You hit like a girl" anyone? You can't explain this away as "misdirected" because the intended target is not a girl, is not mistakenly being perceived as a girl, it is a deliberate act of misogyny in order to enforce the patriarchal status quo.

#misogyny #transmasc #transphobia #im bad at tags negl but w/e #i bet if i sniffed out the origins of “misdirected” it would come from rad feminism #like i dont think people realize exactly how much radical feminism has invaded queer spaces its so bad its literally everywhere #its in the heavy separation of gender in the accusations that certain peoples (depending on your flavor of radfem) experiences dont count #its in the black and white view of the world #of misogyny being the only oppression that matters and everything else is coincidental the idea that men cant be oppressed at all ever #of the idea that theres one person who is the most oppressed and collecting and wielding identities like oppression points #except your points dont count if you are actually oppressed such as black trans folks who are regularly silenced #seriously though the idea that no man ever has ever faced oppression especially from a woman is so funny like i live in the rural south -- #-- and i still learned in school that there were black men who were violently murdered bc cis white women accused them of rape #but yallre like wasnt misogyny wasnt a girl he deserved it for being a nasty stinky man uwu #which is disgusting racism but if you point that out youre a misogynist not allowing women to “vent” about their oppression #transandrophobia

[kind-of-a-shitty-wizard]

hiii i got a little insane over haskills characterization in the other elder scrolls games / material. teehee rambling abt these ^ quotes under the cut (long). also im not that serious abt any of this tbh im just glad haskill appeared in any other elder scrolls material at all LOL

OKAY. okay. about these quotes. idk why other TES media does this, but in these quotes from elder scrolls legends + the interview with haskill it seems like the writers are pushing to give the impression that haskill slightly resents or is even indifferent to his position / the isles / sheogorath ?? (unless haskill is being a little bit more flippant or hyperbolic than usual...?) which is characterization that is NOT what i got from playing oblivion at all skdskdjfn

like... when i played oblivion i thought it was very clear that haskill prefers to be in the isles, serving sheogorath, more than anywhere else. (<- i think this is actually the reason he's technically "mad" even tho he seems sane outwardly. if you enjoy being among madmen it probably means you're mad yourself ykwim). i think haskill does like the isles, his ass is just reserved abt it, like he is about everything... yknow just like jeeves, whose character he's been compared to lmao:)

i think unfortunately some writers take his annoyance with the player and his slight second thoughts about sheogorath's plan in oblivion, and mistakenly assume that he's just annoyed at his whole position. haskill does have his moments of exasperation, but the thing is it's usually only exasperation and it never verges into anger or bitterness or resentment like the top quotes seem to indicate. for example, haskill says this abt his idea of you mantling sheo / the clowns debacle:

^ This quote is a good reference point for haskill's view on sheo bc its pretty much the most critical-of-sheogorath quote from oblivion i can recall, and it tells us a lot of things. in this quote he expresses some exasperation about the clown idea (because he's a prissy bitch who doesn't want to get his outfit dirty /affectionate) and shows some apprehension about one of his lord's ideas (because it involves you, and haskill doesnt like you). but these 2 points he has beef with aren't really reflective of sheo himself but of other issues - ie he doesn't directly question sheogorath. and IN THE END Haskill defers to sheo's judgement because haskill trusts him and values sheo's ideas. in all of his oblivion dialogue, this is the most critical toward sheogorath he gets, and he never outright insults or shows resentment toward him or the isles like in the above quotes bc his loyalty to sheogorath eclipses it

on the contrary (and i dont know why the writers for non-oblivion elder scrolls content dont seem to see this??), theres so much evidence that haskill actually does, you know,,, enjoy being in the isles. here are just some snippets i can think of:

"the isles are hardly a place for anyone, really" <- i BEG to differ, Haskill likes it here, he likes listening to prisoners being tortured in xedillian, he likes wearing his ridiculous frilly high collar outfit emblematic of the fashions of the isles, he doesn't care about morality and it suits him just fine that it doesn't matter here!! (the end quote might be him being a little facetious about relmyna but to be honest i wouldn't be surprised if he thought decency and morality WERE provincial notions because he certainly has no problem killing people lmao). and again, to enjoy doing these things / being around madmen probably says something abt haskill being mad himself. lol

not to mention he likes a bit of joking around. which i imagine sheo does a whole lot. when YOU rib him a little he says this:

his derision in the first bit i think indicates, "i cant believe you would joke around at a time like this," and the upturning of the "very good" i think indicates, "it was a good joke / maybe they could mantle sheo after all". he's not all dour - he appreciates a good joke, especially from (someone who's about to become) his Lord!!

and going a little deeper into haskill actually liking the isles... haskill clearly holds what sheogorath and the isles represent (chaos, free will, individuality) very highly. a good example of this is when you ask him about dyus, and he gives this snarky reply:

^ he says this with such VITRIOL its so funny :p and the amount of disdain in this line indicates (to me) a real conviction in his belief in the free will, chaos etc that sheogorath represents.

this is why i dont think this quote makes sense. "i cant remember why i put up with [sheogorath]" <- haskill wouldnt say this bc he understands fully why he puts up w sheogorath, and his own convictions in sheo that lead him to keep doing it, and even if this quote is him being hyperbolic, i dont think he'd joke about his faith in sheogorath like that because, yk, one of his characteristics is that he's extremely loyal, and moreover he never said anything to this effect in oblivion sdkjskdjs

him having a strong belief in what sheogorath / the isles represent is also evidenced by the language haskill uses when talking about sheo. whenever haskill mentions him, there is an element of poetry and respect to his words that shows that haskill thinks about him highly at the very least:

^ haskill constantly stresses sheogorath's intrinsic unknowableness and power and unique wisdom in a way that feels very respectful. saying "to attempt to fathom [sheogorath's will] is a foolish endeavor" shows that he knows there are unexplainable aspects to sheogorath that he takes note of, respects, and knowingly keeps his distance from... he gets sheogorath and reveres him (at least more than most others or the HoK). in these quotes especially, it feels a bit like hes trying to illustrate how impressive sheogorath is to the HoK, hyping up his boyfriend if you would. who said that. and combined with this respect is (i believe!!!!) a deep care. he is invested in the isles and sheo and wants to help them out of more than just duty. he gets fearful and even loses his composure at some points in the story when sheo/the isles are threatened which i think indicates that he deeply cares for them both!!:

i think this is a care that, combined with the respect he has for sheo, makes it really unlikely for him to get more than exasperated with his behavior and verge into resentfulness. i dont think anyone truly understands sheogorath, not even haskill, but haskill respects sheo as a god, and also gets him in a more familiar/personal way i think - like the way that a cat owner loves their cat but gets exasperated with it when it gets its head stuck in a tissue box. he doesn't angry or anything because he understands that it's the cat's nature to get stuck in the tissue box / sheo's nature to be wild and unpredictable and messy. (the difference being that sheogorath is an all-powerful god cat..... do u see my vision???)

anyway this got crazy long JHDSHFSD... to finish i wanted to look at this extra bit of characterization i found that was wild to me:

^ like. i truly dont get where they got THIS characterization LMAO sheo constantly calls haskill faithful and smart and knowledgeable in oblivion, he practically begs you to summon haskill for help, hyping up his boyfriend so to speak, they care for each other your honor so of COURSE sheo trusts haskill to do his job. what are the legends writers doing in there!!

ANYWAY dear god this got long im going to bed <3

#rambles into the void #haskill #tes #this is all lighthearted by the way just my interpretation of the dialogue #if anyone else has thoughts abt this then be my guest to disagree <3 love to talk abt him #and honestly im just glad he appeared in legends at all..... like that card art??? im still bonkers about his card art #does this all make any sense!! lmao #i just think its more interesting if haskill is a snarky person but only to people he doesn't like. which is the case (i think) in oblivion #i think these lines are a l m o s t there but misdirect his snarkiness... that mans loyal as hell i dont think hed talk like that... #i mean why would he stick around sheo if he didnt at least respect him and enjoy the silly things he does. this man voluntarily puts #on a bright red foot-tall collar every day do you think he wouldnt appreciate a little silliness!! SKDJSD #and it fits with why he'd be in the isles even if he doesnt look mad #the first thing i thought when i realized he was outwardly 'sane' was 'oh but he likes being around 'mad' people therefore insane'... ykwim #i cant believe how well developed he is actually. haskill my beloved. i love your 400+ lines of dialogue haskill

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Its not "harmful" for Anyone to identify with Any label. "Mspec lesbians/male lesbians hurt lesbians/trans/bisexual people, its harmful for you to-" srry i didnt realize being things or using words was equivalent to like punching somrone in the face. Etc

#and this is obv just scratching the surface mooties u know me #and if ur reasoning 4 something being harmful is bc it quote unquote #makes cishets or quote unquote normal people confused/upset/misdirected #you are a bootlicker #i dont want to assimilate i dont want to be palatable i dont care abt cis people understanding or agreeing w my existence #its way too late i need 2 go 2 bed