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hunkahulkaaburningfudge · 5 months

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Civil War II (2016) #6

#civil war ii #tony stark #stephen strange #t'challa #iron man #doctor strange #black panther #marvel comics #616 tony stark #616 stephen strange #616 t'challa #brian michael bendis #david marquez #ironstrange #ironpanther

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gothpheus · 9 months

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he's such a CHILD

#spider man 2099 #civil war ii #marvel comics #miguel o'hara #ghost rider #kenshiro cochrane #ghost rider 2099

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coolcomicbookcovers · 1 month

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#civil war II

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samasmith23 · 3 months

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I am so sick & tired of stupid Comicsgaters citing Civil War II as an excuse to be bigoted against Ms. Marvel!

Y'all wanna know what one of the most irritating false narratives that I've heard bigoted Comicsgaters like Richard "Dickie" Meyer constantly spew? The idea that Kamala Khan is somehow a "fascist brownshirt thought cop" simply due to her Civil War II tie-ins wherein she briefly aligned with her idol Carol Danvers' "predictive justice" program of using psychic visions of the future to prevent crimes before they happened, but Ms. Marvel later switched over to Iron Man's side in the conflict after she realized that such a system was essentially profiling and a violation of people's civil liberties and due process that already hurt two of her friends.

Now personally I've always loved the Ms. Marvel tie-ins to CWII and feel that they were easily the best things to come out of that otherwise highly infamous event comic, feeling that they not only explored relevant social issues like profiling and policing, but also themes of outgrowing hero-worship as Kamala is forced to turn against Captain Marvel whom she idolizes so much in order to do what's right, and the arc also served as a prelude to my personal favorite Ms. Marvel storyline "Mecca" since it allowed the new antagonist Lockdown (aka, "Basic Becky the Junior Fascist") to radicalize Kamala's former friend Josh Richardson into becoming the fascist supervillain Discord.

Also, if Kamala was truly a "fascist brownshirt" like these idiots CGers claim, then why do these scenes happen?

Kinda disproves their whole narrative, doesn't it? Still though... ever since that scumbag Richard Meyer showed his ugly face he's constantly used Kamala's CWII tie-ins to demonize Kamala as being this "irredemable sociopathic fascist brownshirt who crippled her friend Bruno for life." Except... NO SHE DIDN'T!!! Bruno tried to break Josh out of Becky's makeshift prison with a high-tech lock-pick that malfunctioned and exploded on him. Meyer also conveniently ignores the fact that Kamala briefly aligning with Carol for the first half of the story before realizing that she was on the wrong side and tried to correct her mistakes directly mirrors Peter Parker's actions with Iron Man and the Pro-Registration side in the original Civil War.

But I don't see Meyer calling Spidey a "fascist brownshirt." I smell some racist & misogynistic double standards here!

Like, Meyer singlehandedly started that bullcrap argument about Kamala with his AWFUL videos (similar to Lily Orchard and her bullcrap narrative about Rebecca Sugar being a "fascist apologist"), and everytime I see Meyer or other CGers mention it I immediately facepalm and say, "For crying out loud... ARE THEY STILL GOING ON ABOUT THAT?!"

Just remember everyone:

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webshootersandwingdings · 1 year

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A-Force (2016) Vol. 2

#marvel’s singularity #a force #civil war 2 #civil war ii #marvel #captain marvel #carol danvers #madame medusa #Medusa #Allison Blaire #dazzler #singularity #elsa bloodstone #nico minoru #marvel comics #marvel comic edit #marveledit #comic edit

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eightam · 2 years

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Civil War II: Gods of War #4

Art by Jay Anacleto/Romulo Fajardo Jr.

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joezy27 · 1 year

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HAWKEYE - Clint Barton & Kate Bishop

Civil War II (2016) #3 / Hawkeye - Kate Bishop (2021) #1 Variant covers by Phil Noto

#Hawkeye #Clint Barton #Kate Bishop #Lucky #Pizza Dog #Civil War II #Hawkeye Kate Bishop #Variant Covers #Phil Noto #Marvel Comics

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thenotoriousscuttlecliff · 2 months

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I'm as sceptical of Tom Brevoort's X-Men reboot as everyone else, but can't we wait until the issues or out or we at least know who the creators are before denouncing it as a total dumpsters fire?

I get the concern. Brevoort's record at Marvel is inconsistent at best. He oversaw Hickman's FF and Avengers, Ryan North's FF, Ewing's Ultimates, Gillen and Ribić's Eternals, and events like Secret Wars and Judgement Day. He also oversaw Slott on FF, Aaron on Avengers, and events like Civil War II and Secret Empire.

But as patchy as that record is, I'm just counting my lucky stars that it wasn't Nick Lowe taking over.

#x-men #marvel #tom brevoort #fantastic four #avengers #ultimates #secret wars #judgement day #civil war ii #secret empire #i am expecting some back to basics nostalgia driven relaunch #something to lure in old and new readers alike who weren't sold on the krakoa era #which i'm sure the higher ups want when they get ready to kick off whatever the next live action film will be #but i don't think it will erase that era completely #best case for me is they keep ewing around and just leave him alone to cook #i wish they'd kept gillen as well but he's clearly done after this and moving back to creator owned stuff #not at all fussed if percy or duggan never write again #but really need a diverse team #the x-office became far too male dominated by the time fall kicked of

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goodoldfashionedengineer · 1 year

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What if they made a documentary about Bruce Banner after his death in Civil War II? They interview (former) colleagues, superheroes and family members. But they cut it in a way that makes it seem that they all dislike or hate him.

Bruce saw that documentary

#bruce banner #marvel comic #marvel 616 #hulk comics #hulk #the incredible hulk #marvel comics #civil war ii #immortal hulk #616 bruce banner

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awkwardpariah · 1 year

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Election Night 2024: Donald Trump has managed to get his trial dates pushed back to after the 2024 election, unfortunately the conditions of his arraignments made traditional campaigning rather difficult. Instead his son Don Jr. has taken the lead as the primary campaign surrogate, but on election night it all falls apart. Simply put: overturning Roe and coming after queerfolk and transfolk was more than enough to turn most of the country against the Republicans, while a near full employment economy and the defeat of Russia has endeared Joe Biden as America's happy warrior. On election night, facing a trial he's sure to lose in Fulton County, GA in January Trump suffers a stroke and falls into a coma, effectively leaving Don Jr. as his successor in the MAGA movement.

Summers v. Idaho: A case over Idaho's abortion travel ban makes its way to the Supreme Court in 2024. The plaintiff, a 15 year old Idaho resident who traveled to Oregon to get an abortion. The argument: that the interpretation of the Privileges and Immunities Clause as laid down in the 1823 ruling in Corfield v. Coryell has long since established that the Free Movement between the states shall not be infringed. The ruling: in a 5-4 decision the supreme court overturns 202 years of precedent and declares that the states are free to restrict women from seeking an abortion, or any other service they find objectionable, in any other state. This effectively makes people seeking bodily autonomy prisoners in their home states. Before the court can rule, the newly Democrat controlled House and Senate rams through an extension to the ERA's deadline, in an attempt at legitimizing the Amendment's ratification. The court strikes down that power as well, and the ERA becomes the only amendment in history to be nullified by the Supreme Court. California Senator Katie Porter immediately begins drafting a new Bodily Autonomy Amendment which she introduces every year until it finally clears the Senate in 2028.

Red State Military Buildup: State Defense Forces get a surge in funding after the 2024 election. Partly in response to peaceful and violent demonstrations by activists, these measures see the expansion or reactivation of state-defense forces in the Red States. These forces are loyal primarily to their governors, and some states go so far as to pass measures giving them control of their National Guard Units, although the legality of this is hotly debated. Red States pay for this with higher property taxes and by cutting services. In some states, the officer corps is made up of retired members of the regular Army, former cops, and in some cases mercenary soldiers. Idaho gains infamy when its revealed that they've been hiring ex-Wagner Group soldiers to serve as advisors to train their State Defense Force.

Joe Biden Passes Away: At 83 years old, Joe Biden dies peacefully in his sleep. Kamala Harris is sworn in as the 47th President while many around the world mourn the last great liberal. Joe Biden, the man who rallied NATO to support Ukraine's war against Russia, and functionally the destruction of the Russian Federation itself. His legacy falls to Kamala Harris... and she is entirely unfit for the task. Most see her first national address as perfunctory, and her response to the rise of State Defense Forces, police brutality, and the nuclear non-proliferation operations in the former Russian Federation isn't actually all that different from Joe Biden's, its just that people were already losing patience with that set of policies and Harris is just not a very good speaker.

Trump 2028: Donald Trump Jr. announces his candidacy for President in late 2026. He is flanked not just by flags, but by armed security that absolutely nobody mistakes as anything less than a Trumpian SA. His campaign is a Dark MAGA nightmare, and he is supported almost without question by Republican governors. He frequently speaks directly to Red State Defense Forces and through is rambling, cocaine fueled speeches he uses his platform to call for violence if he's not given the nomination and the Presidency. The campaign also sees the MAGA movement transition into a pseudoreligious movement, with images of Donald Trump Sr. shown as objects of worship, and Don Jr. promising that his election will lead to his father's return as the True Leader of America. He is opposed only by Liz Cheney, who is constantly dodging hecklers, rotten fruit and vegetables, and on more than one occasion actual threats to her life by Magats. The primary is a farce, with Trump winning by Assad margins in a few states and the nomination with a clean sweep of the country. Cheney bows out and does not attend the convention, instead throwing her support to Mitt Romney in his effort to revive the National Union Party with former Arizona Senator Kyrsten Sinema. Romney's campaign is really a lifeboat for Business and national security conservatives pretending to be a home for the American center, and it is by far the most well funded campaign in the country.

Democratic Primary: Kamala Harris is not a bad President, but she's also not a very popular one. She announces her campaign almost with the expectation that doing so will scare off potential challengers, when in fact it does the opposite. By Fall 2027 there are 13 Democratic candidates in the race. The Press sees this as mainly a fight between California Governor Gavin Newsom and President Harris, but former Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg surprises everyone by winning the Iowa Caucuses in a narrow plurality, and quickly swells to the number 1 slot in the polls. Harris goes all in on New Hampshire and South Carolina hoping to knock out most of the other candidates and giving her campaign the momentum to sweep the South and eventually Super Tuesday as Biden did in 2020. While she does win New Hampshire, the press is stunned to see AOC win a strong 2nd place. The same thing happens again in South Carolina, and in California Harris isn't even in the Top 3. On Super Tuesday, The top contenders are AOC, Buttigieg, and Newsom. Newsom simply doesn't have much appeal outside of the West Coast, Buttigieg dominates in the Great Plains, but AOC is able to appeal to a far larger coalition of voters than any single candidate, especially after a series of stunning debate performances. The race ultimately comes down to the wire, with AOC winning the last few delegates she needs in Washington State and Democrats Abroad to just barely secure the nomination, but with only 36.2% of the popular vote. AOC offers Buttigieg the VP slot almost immediately, and while its something of a shotgun wedding, it gives the Democratic nominees a mandate.

Campaign 2028: With the conventions done, the country braces for the most contentious election in living memory. Don Jr. is running almost as if he expects to lose the House and Senate. His MAGA security officers and armed supporters frequently clash with cops and national guard units in major cities and he frames his campaign as a true clash of civilizations. Mitt Romney briefly looks like he might actually win the election by a plurality of the vote, until the first debate in which he steps into a trap laid by AOC. She reveals that Romney's economic and social policies are almost identical to those put forward by Trump. The "gotcha" is powerful, but even more so is the string of memes online and across the press comparing it to Obama's "Please Proceed Governor" in 2012. Its made all the worse by Sinema giving an absolutely petulant response post-debate. The Romney campaign never recovers. Trump and AOC never actually face each other in a debate, this isn't a huge surprise as the GOP pulled out of the Commission on Presidential Debates in 2022 and Trump Sr. spent the 2024 campaign just talking on a stage to a sycophantic FOX moderator. There's also not much point of a debate, as AOC and Trump just repeat their opponents comments verbatim knowing that's all the attack ads they'll ever need. On Election Day, 20 states have outright banned mail-in voting, AOC has been removed from the ballot in Idaho, Oklahoma, Tennessee, Alabama, and West Virginia, and Texas actually deploys its State Guard to shut down the one polling location in Harris County when it begins to look like AOC might win the state by a plurality. Mail-in-ballots from the other 30 states take a week to be counted, but Ohio, Texas, Florida, North Carolina, and Georgia all vote to decertify the results in Democrat heavy counties or direct their states' Electors to cast their votes for Trump. It really doesn't make much of a difference, as AOC has a clear majority in the Electoral college. Ironically, the post-election map doesn't look that different from the one in 2020, save for 8 electoral votes from Utah, Nebraska, and Maine going to Romney.

Post-Election Chaos: With all the votes tallied, this Election has the highest turnout in over a century, but AOC, the victor has only 41.4% of the vote. The media's immediate concern is another attempt by Republicans in Congress to decertify the Election Results as they attempted in 2020 and 2024. But Republicans aren't waiting. Before the Electoral College even convenes Texas becomes the first state who's legislature votes to recognize Trump as the victor and their President. Florida and West Virginia follow not long after and Trump announces plans to hold an Inauguration/Constitutional Convention in Mar-a-Lago with members of the House and Senate Republican leadership and numerous Republican governors in attendance. By the time the EC votes, 16 state legislatures have simply voted to ignore the results and name Trump their President with 13 more states preparing to hold similar votes. By January 1, 2029, 22 states have voted to recognize Donald Trump Jr. as the legitimately elected President and not AOC. The stage is set for another civil war.

Part II

#election 2028 #president of the united states #alexandria ocasio-cortez #donald trump #politics #aoc #joe biden #2024 election #progressive #civil war ii #the center cannot hold

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hunkahulkaaburningfudge · 5 months

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Civil War II (2016) #1

#civil war ii #stephen strange #wanda maximoff #billy kaplan #illyana rasputin #daimon hellstrom #jericho drumm #michael twoyoungmen #marvel comics #doctor strange #scarlet witch #wiccan #doctor voodoo #magik #shaman #616 stephen strange #616 wanda maximoff #616 billy kaplan #brian michael bendis

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tomoleary · 8 months

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David Marquez (pencil and ink) and Justin Ponsor (colors) - Civil War II #5 double page splash 22&23 (2016)

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#david marquez #civil war ii #captain america #miles morales #double page spread #justin ponsor

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coolcomicbookcovers · 10 days

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toaarcan · 1 year

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Superhero Media and the Defence of the Status Quo

I’ve seen much discussion, mostly on this site, about how superhero media, particularly the films, tend to cast the heroes as rock-solid defenders of the norm, and the villains as the ones pushing for some manner of social change, be it good or bad.

This trope is endemic to the genre, because comics.

Comics are not designed to end. Comics are designed to go on forever. Comics have been intended to release every month in perpetuity. What changes that isn’t narrative, but finance. A run will be cut short if it fails to sell, and that’s how comic runs end. But then the publisher will get someone else in to take on the character and everything starts again.

True, each individual writer might have a plan for their run, with a plot that ends whenever. But they’re not going to be the final word. Once they’re done, and they move on to their next project, someone else will pick up those characters and that setting and tell the next chapter.

A common adage within comics is that “Every issue is someone’s first,” and that can often stifle change within a book. The book needs its familiar elements to be there, it needs those aspects that people know about the character and their world, to help ease the new people in. Or at least, that’s how the industry sees things. So every arc and shift in the landscape of the universe has to be reset at the end, so things can revert to normal.

This is especially true of the Big Two, Marvel and DC, because they’re telling stories with an inter-connected universe, and so not only does the writer on Batman have to consider the audience of their own book, but also the writers of the other eight Bat-books and also Justice League, and they can’t change Batman too much or they’ll break things.

This is also why death doesn’t tend to stick.

Here’s some examples:

1) In DC’s “DCYou” era, they heavily changed both Superman and Batman. Superman lost most of his powers and was reduced back to Golden Age levels. Bruce Wayne got amnesia and was replaced by a moustache-less, mohawk-sporting Jim Gordon in a giant robot bunny mecha. These were both deeply unpopular stories, but... well, Justice League was still running at the time, and... Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent were both still their normal selves throughout. That part of Justice League just happened before/after those points, but it was really confusing at the time, because DC weren’t telling anyone how the pieces were meant to fit together.

2) Around the same time, Marvel had done the Civil War II event, which was also garbage. At the end, Carol Danvers shoots a hole in Tony Stark’s chest for... reasons. Writer Brian Michael Bendis did this (and also killed off Rhodey at the beginning of the event) in order to replace Tony with Riri Williams, a character who... well let’s just say that Brian Michael Bendis is neither black, nor a woman, nor a genius, nor a student, and it shows. However, he also intended for an AI version of Tony to be Riri’s JARVIS or FRIDAY or whatever the new one in the comics is called. The rest of Marvel’s writers, apparently still wanting to use Tony Stark, had the AI operate as Tony Stark for the intervening years. AI Tony became Tony But Blue. People kept asking why Tony was blue, and any given crossover that started with Tony in the suit had people wondering whether the real Tony was back, because they were all written with the real Tony in mind.

3) This year, DC did a big event called Dark Crisis. It had its moments, but it was mostly empty spectacle. The inciting incident for Dark Crisis is the death of the Justice League, forcing their younger allies (Nightwing, Jon Kent as Superman, Yara Flor as Wonder Girl, etc) and also Black Adam (because movie) to step up to the plate and take on the villain that killed the original League. Did it affect the solo books of Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, etcetera? Mostly, no. Clark was absent from the pages of Superman for completely separate reasons, and again, everything was very confusing as the inherent “Yeah that’s never gonna stick” factor that killing the Justice League already had was heavily reduced by the presence of the league’s founding members in their own titles.

This is also why supervillains are dealt with via cardboard prisons and nobody ever makes a good effort at fixing that. Back in the Golden Age of Comics, villains died frequently, and often at the hands of the heroes. The Joker dies in his first appearance in comics. The change was made, not because they wanted to impart good morals, but because they realised that if they used each villain for a one-off and then axed them, they’d run out of bad guys very quickly, and that would force them to keep making new bad guys for no reason, so they opted for jail instead.

The superhero as defender of the status quo happens because the medium requires it. And when they switch to a different medium, in this case movies, things don’t change much.

Often, you’ll see the change result in villains dying, because the writers don’t feel the need to use them for more than one movie. But that’s kind of about it, because the movies nowadays tend to try to be truer to the original text, which is the status-quo ruled comics.

They also keep doing the shared universe thing, so they can’t have Captain America completely upend US law in his movie without making the guy writing the next film’s life a lot harder.

#Superhero #Superheroes #Genre #Comics #Movies #Marvel #DC #MCU #Dark Crisis #Civil War II #Superman: Truth #Batman: Superheavy

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webshootersandwingdings · 1 year

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