#3H critic

[yanderefairyangel]

In Fodlan, are the crest and nobility power structures one and the same? It doesn’t really seem like one could exist without the other but you have characters like Hapi who just aren’t nobility despite having a crest. So it seems that crests make you a noble sometimes but it’s still bad news if you’re from a noble family and are crestless.

Fodlan lore is quite perplexing,

Well here is what I remember, but from my memories those are actually separated structure ?

The 10 Elites all had descendant from which come the nobility however because Fodlan is Fodlan we learn that not all nobles have a crest because Crest can skip a generation.

For example, in the Gautier house, Matthias posseses a Crest however Miklan doesn't, it's Sylvain who has the Crest. Same thing, Ingrid have a Crest but her brothers doesn't.

Normally being crestless often result in the child in question to not become the heir, that was the case for Miklan. However, we do learn of nobles that don't have a Crest without knowing more about their mansion, for example Hanneman's brother in law who married Hanneman's crestless's sister and still hoped that they could have a Crest baby since Crest can skip generations.

Likewise, House Bartel's leader, Baron Bartel did not have a Crest and had to marry Mercie's mother to be able to have Crest babies to pass on the Crest of Lamine

We also learn of nobles so desperate to have a child with a Crest because they don't have one to pass down to their heir that they had marriage with lower nobles or adopted Crested commoners.

So logically this would mean that nobility is independent from Crest. I say logically because the Lady in Red would disagree with me but again, there is 3 story instances that contradict her : Hubert, Miklan and Caspar.

Hubert is still a noble despite not having a Crest. Now granted, he killed his father and then inherited the title because of what his father did to Eddie but point still stand. In Miklan's case, the problem is that we are told that as the first heir, normally he should have inherited the title but he didn't because Sylvain have a Crest which means that should Sylvain not have a Crest, Miklan would have in normal times inherited according to the rule of first born. Likewise, in her support with Caspar Eddie gives him a speech about why people should be judge for their capacity... thing is Caspar is the second son of his household so the reason why he didn't became heir isn't because of Crest but because he is the second son since in a normal noble system he would not inherit anyway and Miklan's plotline implies that the noble system is in reality separated from the Crest system so this means that Caspar's only way to inherit would have been to have a Crest since as the second son he wouldn't.

Now this gets even more convoluted because even if none of them have Crest they can still give birth to a Crested heir... meaning that this system makes hardly any sense since even if a child is Crestless they can still give birth to someone who has a crest. In fact, my memory serves me right but each time we bring the parents of the student, only 1 parents is said to have a Crest, the other parent who is also usually a noble is not said to have one, in fact I think the only case of 2 crested parent's is... Byleth.... yeah.

Now that is from what I recall, I do think that 3H was trying to establish that the nobility is based on the Crest system but that was rather sloppylily done

#3H critical #3H critic

[benebonv]

Imogen i don't know how to say this but we think your mom and Otohan Thull are fucking

#imogen temult #caleb widogast #liliana temult #otohan thull #critical role #critical role spoilers #cr spoilers #c3e50 #3h 31m mark Caleb said two generals were working under Ludinus after Imogen told him about Liliana #my art tag #1k

[butwhatifidothis]

ngl it really is almost impressive how easy it is to “not” be a villain in the eyes of edelstans.

“Edelgard says that she will sacrifice her own citizens for a “higher cause,” and then goes on to allow her own citizens to be harmed and killed for her own benefit, as well as innocent people in general (note: this is message is the result of failing to save Flayn... which Edelgard gave her strongest man to help do)”

edelstans: “okay but like, she knows that, and, like, acknowledges that - that makes it okay!”

“Edelgard explicitly says that she wants to get rid of the Children of the Goddess as a whole, who she finds to be creatures masquerading as humans, and she will celebrate their apparent elimination as the front liner of her S support.”

edelstans: “okay but like, Rhea is a meanie, so that makes it okay!”

“Edelgard will blatantly say that she wants to eliminate the Kingdom and Alliance along with the Church, and that she wants complete Imperial control over Fodlan.”

edelstans: “okay but like, Dimitri and Claude fight back against her though, and they don’t just stay exclusively on the defensive, so they’re just as bad! there’s no real good guy here, so that makes Edelgard okay!”

so all you have to do is

be aware that you’re committing atrocities against the innocent and undeserving

have a scapegoat to pass along all blame onto

have your victims strike back against your attempts at killing them

and viola! it’s just that easy! with this three step guide you may commit genocide and imperialism to your heart’s content, all while never being anything more than A Misunderstood Bad Boy Lonely Girl <3

#Anti-edelgard #anti edelgard #edelgard discourse #edelgard critical #just to be safe #how'd that one tumblr post go #''yeah I murdered him Your Honor but like. who cares?? like c'mon'' or something like that #like that sentiment it literally how edelstans see this lmao #*is #like how cares that after acknowledging how many people will die if she does her actions she goes on with her actions? #who cares that she blames the entirety of a race for - at BEST - the actions of one (even if we make Rhea completely evil)? #who cares that SHE MAKES IT to where she has to be killed for her to be stopped? #SHE'S the one who is always wronged! SHE is the one who cares! SHE is the one true hero of 3H! #it's like - wow! anyone can be a good guy when you sweep all their evil actions under the rug! handwaving is AMAZING

[wanderingmind867]

Probably an idea someone else has already had, but I feel there's definitely potential for a story like this:

I've heard in Fe3h you can spare Flayn and Seteth on Crimson Flower. I think there's potential for a story here. I'm not good at writing dialogue or most other elements of a story, but let me give you the idea.

Let's say Byleth spares Seteth and Flayn and they go into hiding. That means they're not dead. And if Edelgard and Byleth still kill Rhea, I can maybe see potential for some sort of sequel.

I don't watch Star Wars, but let's use a metaphor from there. Years in the future, let's say there's a figure who leads a rebellion against the empire (a Skywalker type). They could then enlist the aid of Flayn and (if he's still alive) Seteth. They could be the Obi-Wan/Yoda figures of the story. I feel like there's something here. I don't know if I can do anything with it, but there's definitely something here.

#fire emblem #fire emblem 3h #three houses #fire emblem three houses #fe3h #fire emblem three hopes #few3h #crimson flower #my ideas #game ideas #story ideas #fic ideas #fe3h byleth #fe3h seteth #fe3h flayn #byleth eisner #fe seteth #fe rhea #fe flayn #edelgard critical #just to be safe

[emblemxeno]

I did not spend a ludicrous amount of time watching 3H character portraits be superimposed onto Vines and TikToks for people on Twitter to try and gaslight me into thinking the game is some sort of deep, serious political thinkpiece.

#fire emblem #fire emblem discourse #fire emblem three houses #fe3h #the games are more fundamentally about togetherness and human connection #any examples politicking or talk of class disparity or even discrimination is not only few and far between for FE #it's also usually as deep as a puddle #crack open a critical thinking textbook for a uni freshman course #and you'd find stuff 10x more complicated than what any character talks about in this series and 3H specifically

[ravendruid]

"Life needs things to live."

- Percival Fredrickstein von Musel Klossowski de Rolo III

#critical role #cookie watches c1 #vox machina #quotes #percival de rolo #c1e63 #I was in a car for 3h #I have a few of these lined up #sorry for the spam

[youngerfrankenstein]

Really I think the biggest problem TDP has is that it wants to wallow in all your classic fantasy tropes. Good kings and evil advisors, dark magic and wise elves, dragons (can’t really blame them there). It wants to be a very simple good vs. evil narrative but realised people like Nuance(tm) in their stories nowadays and decided to shove it in, trying to make a more balanced story about the horrors of history… and then keeps overcorrecting when the scales are too obviously tipped in one way. As a result the whole thing is just an incoherent mess.

This really isn’t helped by having to make the protagonists flawless so we’ll root for them no matter what, leading to the antagonists being the only interesting characters. Even if their writing can be really messy they are at least allowed to make mistakes that have consequences.

Or the fact despite claiming to have Nuance(tm) it has progressively grown more into a show about how conflicts are always because of a few bad apples (and one rotten to the core in specific) rather than anything engaging.

To put it bluntly, the show wants to have its cake and eat it too. Has basically said as much at this point. But the cake is burned on the outside and batter in the middle, all the worse is that the recipe looked promising.

#Won’t tag #TDP critical #Sorry for harping. I’ll try and stop #“But you still love 3H somehow?” Yes shut up

[silent-partner-412]

lmao person in the reblogs of my last post essentially says dimitri is the worst lord in all of fire emblem boy i’m glad i’m not here to start fights cuz he’s quite literally my favorite of all of them 💀 i guess this is how 3h discourse became so toxic huh

#it’s been a few years now since i played 3h #so a lot of the details of the game have completely left me #i know there’s a lot to criticize about dimitri and i’m not gonna pretend he’s a perfect baby or whatever #but at the time i thought he was the most compelling piece of 3h’s story and him on his own made azure moon my favorite route #and now that i realize he’s kinda meant to deconstruct the typical fe lord makes me like him more #i feel like i would have to play the game again to remember why i connected with dimitri specifically #but yeah i loved him very much and wasn’t expecting to see such deep slander in my notifs on this fine friday morning 💀

[blaiddydbrokeit]

Perhaps this is out of line to say, but I've been thinking. It is quite frustrating that the primary factional conflict in Three Houses/Hopes has become a real and lasting divide within the community, particularly with regard to that of Edelgard VS Dimitri.

I am not saying that it is wrong for anyone to side with the lord and route of their choice, or that we should all simply be chummy best-of-friends, because that is entirely unrealistic an expectation. I am saying that there is no need to aggressively preach one faction over another as superior, especially when it comes to matters of opinion, personal interpretation and perspectives. Nor is there need to attack others to justify your perspective as the 'one correct indisputably factual view' that they should subscribe to.

If you like Edelgard, good for you. She's cute, and she's quite an orator. I will stay in my lane as a Faerghus fan and not interfere.

That said, if you so choose to actively target us for having less than stellar opinions of her or Crimson Flower, you are the aggressor. We do not take kindly to having our side of the community invaded, and most of us would rather simply co-exist with your side in peace left undisturbed.

If you choose to attack, and you raise your flag against us, you do not have grounds to be offended when we raise our own in defense to hold our established space in the community. We have not lost for simply safeguarding our own interests by closing off, and should you have to convince yourself it is your victory to celebrate, then I pray you find some hobbies to bring you joy beyond petty verbal skirmishes on the internet.

#3h longposts #edelgard critical #fandom critical #this has to do with things i've been reflecting on #but for as much tact as i try to include #i get the feeling that you will all come for my head regardless #call me a fool if you so desire #but i've grown weary of the bitter hatefulness that seems to be inescapable in this community of late #adrestia critical #fire emblem three houses #i might delete this later #regardless #my loyalty to faerghus is exclusive and non-disputable #so if you try to use this as a target on my back #the block button is right there #dimi needs a rant

[yanderefairyangel]

The more and more I dig into Three Houses the more I feel that Sothis was terribly underutilized, she never regains her memories and basically disappears from the story after she fuses with Byleth, not to mention that her backstory is so shrouded in mystery that I still barely understand it and that makes me so sad because she had sooo much potential as a character! Just imagine if during white clouds she regains certain memories depending on the route, makes he self known during the holy tomb scene, and having different interactions with Rhea depending on the route!

Sorry if that was a bit ranty.

No worries

and Yeah big agree, Sothis is victim of 3H's tendencies to shove the Nabateans and Agarthans aside even though it's literaly the reason why the game story happens in the first place

#3H critical #3H critic

[crazy-fruit]

Slowly going insane over the fact that I most likely spend more time in the lab than in the field for my thesis.

#jojo rambles #uni life #jokes on me for thinking my vacation plans are just for fun but they are now a lifeline #cuz if I don't get to be outdoors soon for a longer period I will go crazy #but spending 7h a day looking at dead animals and 3h communting is just no fun #nothing like breaking open mussles or ripping of feet from polycheates #and on the weekend I don't have the energy to actually go outside a lot #not only do I need to touch grass...I need to be at the feet of the alps looking at the milky blue water of my favourite river with #not contact to anyone and just do what I want #any day I take off just means this misery goes on for longer #I didn't expect it to be that bad #the skin on my Fingertips is peeling off because of the rubber gloves I have go wear #the smell of the Formaldehyde also does not help #maybe better than ethanol but ey! the fun of working with a chemical that can cause cancer #at least I have watched like 20 episodes of critical role in one week thats helping

[butwhatifidothis]

Also, a conquering force thats fully refusing to compromise versus people defending themselves and have showed to be open to peaceful communications and compromises is. lol. not a conflict of ideals. Ooooh if only they TALKED this all could have been - well yes except there is only one specific party here that is refusing to talk and I dont think everyone else should be blamed for her being a pig-head, actually.

Especially when Dimitri, once his mind settles, straight up says that it was her methods he had his primary issue with, not her ideals

Note that he asks her what her ideals even are here, at the end of the war itself, meaning that they obviously weren't any motivating factor for him to fight her before because he didn't even know what they were. He just wants to know why she did this shit - that he didn't exactly take to her "I had to kill people, or they would have died!" mentality afterwards has shit all to do with everything before that moment.

And especially especially when Claude even straight up says in the beginning of VW that he agrees with her, but that it was literally specifically her bloody methods that made him stand against her

Ideals are, at the beginning, what Claude and Edelgard literally have no conflict about. And he makes the revelation that Rhea was a positive influence after defeating Edelgard, so his change in opinion about her didn't have anything to do with his beef with Edelgard either. His problem with Edelgard, like Dimitri, was her proclivity to murder innocents. Which, uh, yeah, kind of a bit of a deal-breaker there.

And then you have Edelgard, who explicitly and directly states that she wants to destroy the Church, Kingdom, and Alliance to force Fodlan back under complete Imperial control.

THERE AIN'T SHIT ABOUT IDEALS. BECAUSE EDELGARD DOESN'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT IDEALS. THAT IS NOT WHY SHE STARTS HER WAR AND SHE MAKES HERSELF SO, SO CLEAR ABOUT IT.

Like, to be clear, I can't stand the game either whenever it does to some degree try to sprinkle that shit in here to make Edelgard easier to take in, but holy shit do Dimitri and Claude make it hilariously obvious that Edelgard's ideals are not the damn issue here. The fandom clinging on to this idea just to make some limp-wristed "they were all bad in some way!!!!!" point is annoying

#ask #anon #anti edelgard #anti-edelgard #edelgard critical #edelgard discourse #just to be safe #not helped by Hopes trying its damndest to make Edelgard look like an angel #and the Hopes devs saying ''you can take as much as you want of it as canon ;)'' since they're cowards #and won't just say their silly AU spinoff that breaks the OG game's lore and characters ain't canon #because Hopes doubles down HAAAARD on the whole ''''''ideals'''''' shit that was already annoying as hell #oh 3H if only you were written by writers who weren't afraid of evil bad bitches. so much of this would've been avoided lmao

[saviourkingslut]

Apparently the three 3H lords are gonna be DLC for Engage and ohhhhh did they make Ede.lgard Uglygard lmao. Deadass she looks 12

SGJGGDFHHV YOU'RE NOT WRONG. jesus christ. they massacred my boy dimitri too but this is just pathetic. she doesn't even look like herself what the fuck. and they want me to pay for this shit? hello??

#also immediately pissed off by the way that the 3h part of the trailer is focused on ladlegard only #she gets a whole ass voice line wherein she's immediately a bitch ('we were just growing weary of each other's company' stfu) #and the cam is always centred on her #dimitri??? doesn't even have a voiceline?? #asks #once again intsys gives her preferential treatment #engage critical

[wanderingmind867]

I think fire emblem three houses should get a sequel. At least for Crimson Flower. Let me give you my pitch:

Imagine Edelgard winning against Rhea. Her, Hubert and Byleth rejoice and celebrate as they're destroyed the "decadent church" and brought order back to society . (This is their POV, not necessarily the truth).

Now, fast forward some couple hundred years. The Empire that Edelgard successfully made is now beginning to crack. Her successors have not been nearly as charismatic as her, and the cracks are beginning to show. One day, a rebellion forms; a rebellion hoping to destroy the empire. The rebellions are all put down, but there's only so long that can keep happening. There's rumours that Seteth and Flayn are involved in these new rebellions, but no proof. (Byleth spared them years ago, and it's now coming back to bite them).

Our main character for this game/story would be a Skywalker type figure (I don't watch star wars really, but I know the characters well enough to say this). Someone the rebellions leaders choose to rally behind.

To quote a comment I saw on one of my previous posts about this (I asked permission, but I'm impatient and wrote this before their response): "So you know that line where Dimitri says the Blaiddyd bloodline will live on even if he dies? There’s your main character". Thank you, @bummedoutbutstillalive you took my idea and made it a lot better. Thank you!

So there's my pitch for why I think Crimson Flower is ripe with potential for a sequel! I don't know if I have the writing skills to do anything with my idea, but I needed to share it! Thank you for listening!

#fire emblem #fire emblem 3h #fire emblem three houses #three houses #fe3h #crimson flower #my ideas #story ideas #fe3h byleth #fe3h seteth #fe3h flayn #dimitri alexandre blaiddyd #edelgard critical #just to be safe

[burr-ell]

thinkin about percy and rhea, about "you took everything that i loved!" and "you did this to me and you'll pay!", about making choices to do good while also doing selfish and morally dubious things, about acting out of horrific trauma and grief but one represses it and the other wallows in it, about devotion to religion vs withdrawal from the gods, about surviving and finding hope through it all and choosing to do better with the second chance

#also about having top notch VAs with great singing voices. dont make me think abt percy singing song of the nabateans i will cry #percy de rolo #lady rhea #critical role #fe3h #-gently holds percy rhea claude byleth and vex- i love u guys....so much..... #anyway i was relistening to 'revenge' from the 3h ost and started thinkin thoughts

[fellhellion]

Completely understandable to dislike or feel uncomfortable with Edelgard but I NEED people to accept that “fodlan reunification” is literally presented as your uncritical narrative reward regardless of route.

#tunes talks critical #tunes talks 3h