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armageddidnt · 8 months
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Best of Neil's stage directions/commentary in the good omens s1 script book
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I went back and read this to help me cope after s2, as one does
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they did it. they actually did it. they turned him into waswas hands
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queerfandomtrifecta · 6 months
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Bottle It Up: the most tangible theme in OFMD s2
So looking at s2 through the (super fucked up) lens that Jim asking Frenchie “How are you handling all of this so well?” And Frenchie responding by saying he puts all the terrible things in a box in his mind and never opens it again was the lesson everyone was supposed to learn this season and like, that’s there in the text more than anything else and I hate that.
Frenchie is handling everything well because he’s putting it in the box and never addressing it again.
Izzy finally says he has love for Ed, everyone is worried about him, the atmosphere is toxic and suggests talking it through and Ed goes on deck and points a gun at everyone as he asks them to talk about it, and when Izzy finally does address the reality of things and speaks Stede’s name aloud he gets shot in the leg.
Lucius isn’t talking about what happened. Avoidant about the Rat Boy name at first, says he fell off the ship, can’t remember when he picked up smoking.
Stede asks Lucius to talk to him about what happened after he was pushed off the ship, and Lucius starts to and almost immediately Stede runs away saying to save the rest for Pete.
Lucius says he talks to Pete and Stede says “please tell me you held back on some of the darker stuff” and Lucius confirms he did because Pete got nauseous and started crying.
Lucius tells Stede he should look past the man he loves and examine all the awful things he did, but Stede brushes it off and doesn’t do that.
No one will tell Stede they killed Ed. (Arguably this is for their own safety as well but it fits the whole “we’re not talking about the hard stuff” theme so I’m including it)
Ed finds out Stede went home to Mary through Anne Bonny. Stede begins to try to explain but instead, Ed smashes his chair against the wall and walks off. They have a very brief conversation with mention that Stede was kidnapped by Chauncey then watched him die.
Ed gives his influencer non-apology that was clearly written by Stede to the crew, and everyone but Lucius and Izzy seem to have forgiven him. During the “apology” Jim talks about how it made them feel and Stede shushes them so Ed can keep not apologizing. Afterward, for some reason, Jim says immediately says “I thought it was pretty solid for him” Archie says that’s how it goes in situations like this, Roach has never heard an apology before so they’re all good apparently now.
Lucius pushes Ed off the ship but isn’t okay yet. We’re addressing the trauma here and trying to make it right (even if it’s in a messed up way); we’re finally talking about it directly, but Lucius isn’t okay after this.
Fang tells Ed he’s not mad at him because he got it all out of his system when they beat him to death.
The whole Lucius/Izzy exchange “A shark did this to me. Dangling my legs over the side of the ship, served me right too.” “Okay, that seems healthy. Using a bit of fiction to cover up your trauma.” “Not moving on is worse.” (Another point at which Lucius wants to resolve trauma and he’s told no, don’t talk about it)
Lucius is clearly coping poorly and tries again to talk to Pete about how he almost died and Pete says he should find him when he’s no longer thinking about his trauma (“find me when Blackbeard isn’t living rent free in your head”) and that Lucius should talk about how he lived instead. Lucius then seems to decide that he’s fine, proposes to Pete, and is seemingly okay after that. (5th point in the story when Lucius tries to talk about something to heal and is told no in some way, and here is when he finally seems to moves on and is played as “better” after this)
Izzy’s drinking a lot even after he’s not totally dysfunctional like at the end of ep4.
The only Ed apology to Izzy is “Sorry about your leg.” With no eye contact as he’s walking away. To which Izzy responds “Fuck off.” After Ed’s out of ear shot.
Stede suggests Ed can absolve himself of everything by “turning the poison into positivity” and selling his treasure he got during the time he was abusing the crew to buy party supplies. Stede later says at the party that yes, Ed has achieved turning the poison into positivity, though Ed has done nothing by throw money at the problem.
Stede ignores Ed’s warning about not being able to come back from killing in cold blood and kills Ned Low.
Stede is visibly upset and Ed goes to check on him and begins to start talking, but Stede wordlessly grabs him and slams him up against a wall and then they have sex (which Ed has requested to wait on) instead of talking about it.
Ed decides he’s leaving to become a fisherman because Stede is infamous now and Ed’s been wanting out of that life so there’s a brief disagreement where not much is said and then he leaves.
“I’m sorry I was such a dick.” Is the biggest apology we’ve gotten all season. It’s immediately dismissed as “you’re not a dick. Life’s a dick.”
No one in the crew seems to be mourning Izzy’s death and we as the audience seem expected to move on from it very fast. Avenging his death is proposed by Zheng but then it cuts to nope, we’re done with that and we’re inn keepers now instead. Put the terrible thing you’ve seen in the box and never open it again.
I’m definitely sure I forgot some of these and it felt at first that these were being set up to be played negatively because this is the don’t-bottle-it-up/healing-from-our-traumas show but that just doesn’t play out. Like so much of it’s either dismissed without reason, played as a joke, or framed as acceptable and the fact that I could pull so much more of this stuff out of the text than I could any other potential thematic element does has me just so baffled. I don’t know what to do with it.
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putnamcapital · 2 months
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s1 ep 6 rewatch notes
[yeah i am still doing these essays, everyone copes differently OKAY]
I wish i had the words to convey my love for the Simon-Rosh-Ayub dynamic when they’re sitting on his bed trying to talk about his video, not the Kim K. video. it’s an instance of one of the things i ADORE about YR, namely, the importance of the love and support of friends - “the gang is back together”. contra a lot of the teenage and adult movies that put romantic love on a pedestal and everything else goes to the dogs.
That shot of Wille set against the sky when the Queen leaves = is it the apocalypse or is it heartbreak and i'm not the only one seeing the religious imagery right?
“we haven’t done anything wrong.” Simon’s moral clarity, his unbreakable backbone - it’s a moment where it’s obvious the Court has no idea who they are dealing with. I’m not sure Wille even knows then.
Frida doesn’t get enough praise for her acting. that side eye of August as they cross in front of him loafing on the picnic table: sublime.
Another parallel I hadn’t seen before: Sara dresses up before dinner; she likes the image she sees of herself in the mirror. She is “someone she is not”, according to Simon (later that night), but she wants that false countenance. In S2, that same move will devastate Wille. But we have another Sara-mirror scene, in S2. Leaning on the Wille-Sara parallel, there’s something being done here about becoming who you are through artifice (dressing up ‘in costume’) or through love (revealing your true self). August (as opposed to Simon, i think …) ends up being a false or traitorous ‘coming into self through love’ for Sara.
Related … when Sara went to see August to confront him about the video, i have retrospectively imagined her as having planned what happened. But if you look at the scene as it happens, both Sara and August seem to just be playing the situation as it arises. Sara starts off by not even intending to tell August, I think that was honest. When she then confronted him about the video, she first asks why did you do this to Wille and then, how do you have the right, you destroyed Simon? none of it is about her. it’s when August asks her ‘what do you want’ - that i think the idea comes to her. And i think that explains her face after she kisses August - her revulsion at herself. it seems like a situation that spiralled out of control very fast.
i can’t really talk about the Sara-Simon fight scene because it’s my Point of No Return in terms of “This is a nice program to watch of an evening” and “These characters have become my entire waking and sleeping existence, is there treatment for this.”
in the scene that starts with them sitting on the floor in Wille’s room, there is that tender moment by the door, and one of the top two kisses and hugs in the whole of season 1 and 2 combined, punctuated with the forehead tap. and i’ve always thought it so lovely until this time i saw the “red flag” - the towel hanging on the hook - and it reminded me of the red ‘flag’ we see in the locker room every other time things go south.
the scene with kristina and wille in the car starts simply with him saying, “WHAT?” which a) comes straight out of fanfic; b) is hyper-realistic adolescent approach to dialogue but also c) actually shows that they are really close. as in, Wille might loathe his mother by the end of this episode, but also he knows exactly what she’s thinking and they can just skip all the usual staging aspects of conversation. it links, i now see, to the book scene, where wille admits that he can’t just throw out everything he’s been taught, b/c he’s internalized it so well
when K is lecturing W about all the public attention he’s going to get now, and how it will be even worse, it’s the same shot of him looking out the car window wishing he could be literally anyone else as in the first few minutes of s1ep1, after the club fight. and we see his reflection in the window, so we get him 'in double' - who he is IRL, and who he is seen to be by the viewer. very clever. very clever.
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uglygirlstatus · 8 months
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TOMORROW....ITLL ALL BE OVER :(
I’m very genuinely not okay about it. I started Riverdale when it first came out (buzz was huge in my high school during my gr 12 year because classmates were having public Cole Sprouse sightings in the city) but I dropped it at some point during s2. I didn’t like it at first (my teenhood was spent raised on Steven Universe discourse so the show was needlessly edgy and sexy and ‘problematic’ in my eyes) to the point where I got in an argument with my friend who was telling me it was good writing and I was telling her she was objectively incorrect. (Years later I messaged my friend to formally apologize and admit that I was wrong. She replied back to say she didn’t remember the argument and also didn’t care because she stopped watching after s1 and also that that was the first time in our 10 year friendship that she ever heard me admit I was wrong)
I started watching again in 2020 when Netflix dropped the 1.5x speed feature bc I thought that would be a fun way to experience the show and I started it from the beginning again w my sister and mom with a renewed mindset. We rang in 2021 with a three hour Riverdale watch session running over the midnight fireworks outside. We eventually had to banish our mom from watching with us because she didn’t Get It. Asked too many questions. Called it Stupid too often. We weren’t there for that anymore. We were along for the ride. My sister moved out and then so did I (not because of the Riverdale hate. To be clear.) but as season 5 and 6 and 7 aired we watched the new episodes every week together on facetime. Eventually we dropped the 1.5x speed thing in order to properly savour and enjoy it. I talked to all my middle aged coworkers about it against their will. I witnessed literally anything anywhere and thought to myself “just like Riverdale”. Fresh off a nervous breakdown and still trying to cope with the ongoing Covid isolation of 2021, the weekly Riverdale watch sessions were literally the highlight of basically every week for me. and even as life started sucking less over time, Riverdale was still there brightening every week and I loved it and it was Television and it was everything. The last of its kind. I will miss it forever. Probably just never gonna watch tv ever again
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thiswontbeforever · 1 year
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TW// sh & s*icidal thoughts, anxiety, depression
okay idk if it’s just me bc i haven’t seen anyone else really mention it & pls let me know if i should delete this but was anybody else watching s2 and really noticing that darkness edvin was talking about in wille?
first off the anxiety, depression, & dissociation he experiences is heartbreaking. i mean we saw s1 the constant anxiety, coping mechanisms, & the more physical & violent panic attacks (& maybe a form of sh with him hitting his head/pulling his hair) but the display of his anxiety this time is very different (picking his nails instead, the mouth movement thing edvin mentioned) and ofc not being able to breathe (still with the collar & ties) but it’s all even more repressed than s1. i mean it was heartbreaking bc he really doesn’t have anyone to lean on & he knows he needs to use his role as crown prince in a way he never wanted to in order to get what he wants & so he’s trying to keep that facade together, separate himself like erik (supposedly) did, & even w/ going to the school therapist he’s not actually addressed his anxiety much w/ anyone. i mean him actually throwing up this season, the anxiety taking over his body AGAIN, it’s such an intense and draining state to be in and edvin did an incredible job of adapting wille’s anxiety w/ the new situation. additionally, the scenes where he’s so out of it, literally looks just empty and blank…had me a mess. as much as i hate certain scenes, thinking about wille’s mental health & heartbreak i really do understand (it’s like simon asking “why can’t i just fall in love with him (marcus)? - why can’t i get over this? everyone says it’ll get better so i’m just being dramatic right? why does it still feel like this? what if i could feel it with someone else? desperation from both of them to try and feel anything other than what they do after it all, without each other, feel something close to what they had. it’s the whole point - they cant. they only had what they had because it was them and moving on is more miserable bc everyone involved has a different motive, different expectations, and are all using each other to a certain extent. trying to prove something but all they prove is what exists between simon & wille is real, and right, & cannot be recreated or replaced). okay i got way off topic buT -
back to wille’s state of mind what i was getting at was that darkness was truly there & i genuinely kept waiting for him to possibly hurt himself or really allude to suicidal thoughts. (there were a few lines where he did say just like i feel like i’m gonna die (?) i think it was) & with that true hollow look he had in so many scenes i wouldn’t have been surprised if those ideations were brought up. i never thought wille would actually do that or that that’s where the story was heading, but i just mean that i GET what edvin was saying. it’s darkness of anger, revenge, regret, and wille’s entire mental state where he genuinely feels like it’s never going to stop hurting or get better because he’s lost the one person who gave him hope. that scene where he goes to the like fence in front of the lake (?), listening to music, and then felice comes…i mean flashback to wilmon at the lake, how cold the water is then as a joke, a tease about august (?)…but in this scene it seemed like wille had been just standing there for a while before felice came & i really had this feeling of just disassociation & maybe unconsciously him thinking about the temperature of the lake…not like seriously but i hope what i’m trying to say makes sense.
i just think it was brilliant writing and acting to show how bad the position wille is in really was for him & have him finally start to open up in therapy & with felice & simon.
that being said…
where the fUck was my simon breakdown. (i know we saw a BIT in the last episode my poor baby 😭 he looked absolutely devastated & broken but god like !! i wanted more especially after trying to distract himself with marcus & everything uh. i’m glad he had his song but then !! they took it away)
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digitalsatyr23 · 1 year
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Stampede vs Original Trigun
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So I know a lot of people on here really liked Trigun Stampede, and I went in watching it with a pretty open mind because, believe it or not, I hadn’t actually watched the original Trigun up until that point. No specific reason, just never got around to it. When I heard that Stampede was going to be a fresh new take on it, I thought “Cool, since I’m not attached to the original series then this should work out just fine for me.” Well... I can see why some people like it, but it really isn’t for me. My understanding was always that Vash was a big pacifist, but Stampede’s Vash is such a non-main character. He gets a few cool moments here and there (and even I was hyped during that finale) but he does SO LITTLE in that entire season, other characters actively berate him for not doing stuff. Stampede did motivate me to try the original though. I thought the original would be merely “okay” since it’s an older show and I just wasn’t sure if it would hold up but got daym, its reputation is well-earned. The characters are all so fun and likable right out the gate and they’re both consistent and have lots of nice subtle layers to them. Vash in particular is a really great main character to see on-screen. He has his low moments but it all feels more authentic, in a way. Stampede’s Vash had his moments and I could totally understand WHY he felt the way he did, but he was basically a sadsack the entire time after like... I don’t know, the first episode? OG Vash is a sadsack sometimes and it’s clear that he’s really carrying around a lot of guilt and depression, so his goofy exterior seems to be a coping mechanism for those feelings. At the same time, he still stands up for others when he needs to and he also has genuine moments of anger, happiness, and peace. What I’m saying is original Vash just feels like a more fleshed out character to me. I’ve also really enjoyed the original’s rendition of Wolfwood so far. He’s quite a bit goofier than I expected him to be, but he bounces off the other characters rather nicely and he feels like a true buddy for Vash. The shooting contest episode was great because it helps highlight the similarities (and differences) between Vash and Wolfwood. I did enjoy Stampede’s Wolfwood but again, just like Stampede Vash, he felt like he really had one main character mode, and that was grumpy. Grumpy is fine (especially given the situations he ends up in) but a little variety never hurts, you know? And Milly? Milly??? I can see why people were sad she wasn’t in Stampede’s first season, because she’s such a treat. She’s funny, adorable, and always fun to see. Never a dull moment with her. She’s usually in the background most of the time but I notice she’s really observant for how airheaded they play her off as. Makes me wonder how they’ll handle her in Stampede S2. Also also, I do want to say I don’t 100% hate Trigun Stampede or anything. I really loved its art style and animation. It really pulls off the cartoony vibes original Trigun had sometimes, but in 3D so it’s even more lively, and the few traditionally animated sequences (such as Wolfwood’s backstory) were real highlights in that season. I just feel like the writing and characters in Stampede lack the depth and fun the original has. The old show has me hooked! I haven’t finished it yet so my opinion may change, but at least from what I’ve seen, I adore it.
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everchanging-cryptid · 9 months
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Ok that took an embarrassingly long time to recover from but
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from Party Rock Prison or wherever I was (trapped in an attic) and I’ve dealt with my feelings, probably?, about the S2 ending. So I’m gonna talk about that, and how I’m trying cope with that. This is mostly just so I can reassure myself later if I get sad about the ending again, but I figure no harm can come from trying to reassure anybody else in the same situation, right? (Knock on wood) so, while I speak pretty vaguely, I’ll still put a cut in the extreme case of spoilers. (Apologies if this is unintelligible, I’m running on like 3 hours of sleep and a baby carrot)
So, while the last 15 minutes of S2 are initially extremely painful and will most likely leave you crying or at least wishing you could cry, we have to remember that this is not the end. Far from it. S2 was just a bridge season, a collection of context for S3. In S3, we will most likely get the happy ending we want to see, or some variation of it anyway. It will be okay. Even if we don’t get a third season of the show, Neil Gaiman has talked about how he would still want to end the story properly in some way. So regardless of whatever happens, it will get better. Things may look bad now, but it’ll get better. Even though we would have to wait a little while for S3, I feel like it’ll all be worth it in the end. It’ll be worth the wait. We’ve got this.
(Just in case anyone needs them, I’ll list some wholesome fics here that I really like ^^[so sorry I can’t link them, I can’t seem to figure out how and it isn’t working right])
•The Parting Glass by equestrianstatue and omnishambles- the first fanfic I’ve ever read, and my all time favorite
•As At Eden by ChaosDuckWrites- this one’s short but sweet, I really like it
•Beyond The North Wind by Jackie_Thomas- this one is a bit longer but is very cool, the ending is amazing
•An Evening On A Porch by DandelionDrabbles- this one’s cute and very sweet
•hand in unlovable hand by gazing- this one’s super cute, I like this one a lot
•Scare me goodnight, my love by The_Rogue_Bard- this one isn’t done yet, but so far it’s super neat and it’s a neat concept
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rapharoni-supreme · 2 years
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Andrea-Mod’s Raph-focused fics masterpost
Since I’m posting my fics here, I figured I might as well make a masterpost of all my Raph-focused fics that I’ve written (so far). Starting from the earliest:
Knitting Needles Make Good Conversation Starters
How does the so-called 'angry one' of the family become not so angry? Simple. With a few good coping mechanisms, and a lot of help and support from his family. ((Literally the first fic I ever wrote for Rise, so pls excuse any typos or out of date details/OOC-ness)).
Patience and Fangs
There are many things Splinter still has to learn when it comes to being a father to four turtle tots. But one things is for certain: He loves his sons. ALL parts of them, even the parts that may be a bit more... savage.
Happiness is a Warm Puppy
It’s always good to take a break, especially during the rough times. Breaks that involve your favorite little brother and a bunch of fun, cuddly and slightly mischievous puppies? Those are even better. ((Post s2-finale, Mikey helps Raph de-stress after the whole Shredder ordeal))
Test Subject #1-R
“Why were you trying to lift a bus anyway?” Donnie asked, his face a mix of tired and exasperated, “Do you seriously not remember last time?”
“No, I remember,” Raph replied, scowling a little, “I just thought that now that I had a little more Raph power-!”
“While the scientific part of me would like to encourage experimenting and testing, I’m fairly certain your Aura Clone-Jutsu technique wasn’t meant to be used to pick up buses for fun.” ((Post s2-finale, Raph and Donnie experiment w/ Raph’s new aura powers))
Sweet Sixteen
On the morning of Raph's birthday, he and his father share a moment, and Raph is reminded that even if birthdays don't always feel like a big deal, they can still be worth celebrating.
Snapper's Day Out
What was meant to be a relaxing day out (and a simple trip to Teddy Bear Town) for Raph ends up having a few extra twists to it. But, that doesn't necessarily make it a bad day. Far from it, actually.
A Matter of Perspective
It hadn’t exactly changed much, it was still the same old face he always had. Same old eyes and snout and snaggletoothed mouth. He had to wonder what had made these things - what had made all of him, apparently - so ‘criminal-like’ for lack of a better word.
(OR: Raph deals with the aftermath of the whole Heinous Green situations, and the not-so-great feelings that comes with it)
On The Bench
What happens when the turtle who's known for taking the big hits and being the team protector ends up being the one that others have to look out for? ((post s2 finale, Raph has to deal with suddenly being the one that people are fretting over/protective of after he gets seriously injured in battle))
Mind Over Kraang-Matter
“...I guess it makes sense,” Donnie admitted, “That you’d be worried about… that happening again. But besides the fact that the Kraang don’t have any control over you anymore, you shouldn’t be trying to restrain yourself or- or punish yourself for being controlled in the first place, Raph. We know that you’d never try to hurt us, and you know that too. The thing that did try to hurt us wasn’t you, it was a complete different-!”
“But that’s-!” Raph stopped himself. He didn’t want to snap at Donnie again, so he took another deep breath before continuing, his voice quieter now. “But that’s the problem. I know the Kraangified me wasn’t actually me and was a totally different thing, but… but I still worry that it’s still in there somewhere, waiting to come out and take over again.”
“Okay… Why do you think that it’s going to take over again?”
Raph gave a hollow laugh, keeping his eyes locked on the floor. “I mean… Come on, Don. The whole thing with the Kraang… It wasn’t the first time that someone else was able to 'take over' while I was blacked out...”
(OR: Raph copes with the mental aftermath of being Kraangified, and Donnie insists on helping him find a better way to cope.) ((Post-Movie, obvi))
Cracked Shield
“Heh, you're one to talk, big bro. Hero moves are totally your style…”
Even if they ended up not being Leo’s last words to him, Raph still had a feeling that they would haunt him for the rest of his life.
(It's easy being the one who protects, the one who saves others. It's not nearly as easy being the one who gets saved...) ((Post-Movie, obvi))
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So yeah! While I’ve got plenty of other fics that feature Raph, these are all the ones that are majorly focused on him and/or his relationships with other characters. And you can read these AND all my other RotTMNT fanfics on AO3, my username there is JustAndrea: https://archiveofourown.org/users/JustAndrea/pseuds/JustAndrea
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aquariusdegel · 2 years
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actually yknow what before I write a fic or a structured essay about the details of how Yuris story should have ended, I’m just going to write down my visceral and screaming reactions. Spoilers for tiger and bunny season 2 cour 2.
Because I broke down crying several times in public today thinking about how Yuri “died” alone and hating himself and how no one, not a single person, tried to save him this ENTIRE 12 EPISODES. You’ve had multiple instances of heroes going out of their ways to apprehend criminals and murderers and plead to save people over and over cause that’s what heroes do. Kotetsu not ten minutes after Yuri “died” saying “if i can save someone then I’ll do my best and put 100% into it” . What a punch in the gut after Kotetsu spent maybe 2% of an effort trying to save Yuri. Yes,died is in quotations, I know they’re trying to keep it ambiguous but hell, the finality of that scene sure seemed like a death scene to casual viewers. FUCK.
I’m not even against killing Yuri because the action WAS in character. But it sure wasn’t consistent with the rest of the damn cour, nor season, nor characters, NOR ENTIRE SHOW. BECAUSE WHAT THE HELL WAS THE POINT OF EPISODE 20 THEN??? I found so much strength in episode 20. If Yuri could get through his darkest hour to see the dawn I thought hey yknow, maybe that’s how things go, you gotta suffer a bit to see the light rising. What is Yuris dawn exactly? What was his suffering for?? Why was he shown happy and peaceful only for his mom to be murdered, his body to be controlled (after he saved the day) and beat up and then BEAT UP AGAIN. AND THEN DIE.
Holy hell, Yuri, the public servant who spends his days and nights protecting the peace and law of Sternbild, who counsels the buddy heroes and smiles when he sees them doing the right thing, who tries and changes who he is by retiring lunatic when he’s director. This is how they treat his character? Because he makes the mistake of being traumatized and having a toxic coping strategy that just needs to be addressed and helped with. You literally have criminals who blow up people without remorse and miraculously he’s captured alive. But Yuri,” a true hero “ said Barnaby , is discarded.
and holy hell Kotetsu, the person who was positioned to be the best to reach out to Yuri and save him… Didn’t and barely gave him another thought. Yuri literally took a bullet for him in s1. Yuri constantly smiles at him and his actions. Yuri listened to Kotetsus words in the rising to actively change his path. And Kotetsu, did nothing…. For Yuri in the end. When Yuri needed him the most (guess this wouldn’t have happened if Keith “it doesn’t matter who you are I will save you” Goodman was there instead.) What were they thinking? This is our hero? Who did he even save in the end? He just helped stop Audun. All this talk about what it meant to be a hero but he couldn’t even save Yuri.
it hurts me to see other people who found the conclusion of this broken abused yet caring person to be relatable and hopeful, react as pained as I have. In a way they dangled his happy ending in front of us throughout s2. Look at director petrov, isn’t he silly? Haha vampire boss. Haha where’s Lunatic…
there’s a reason why people commenting about Yuri were wishing for his health and safety and happiness when the trailer dropped. We can all see that he’s in pain and needed a friend, or a helping hand more than anyone else… and they never gave it to him. They just broke him. Again and again. Even when he was doing the right thing. Again and again.
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I know that fiction and stories aren’t written for fans. They’re supposed to be the vision of the storyteller. I understand from a thematic point of view, this is the tragedy of an antihero. but I also know the people who wanted to see him happy… they’re people who understand that pain and also wanted to be happy or okay or even just…. Alive. To see a character who struggled for so long to be better and happy and willing to help out the heroes, end up just… giving up. I sincerely hope that people will be alright after this. I know that if I watched what this show did to Yuri when I was 19 and extremely depressed, I might have felt even more hopeless. The heroes who smile and pair off, think nothing of their lonely hardworking director.
If you’re reading this and feel similarly pained by the end of his character arc, then I hope you take care of yourself. Take a rest, go outside, talk to a friend. Things do get better and people do want to help.
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thestobingirlie · 2 years
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Yes big brain to your Stancy post. If Steve was the one who acted like Nancy people would constantly bring it up regardless of how much time passed. They wouldn't even doubt him cheating like they do with Nancy.
See I didn't like Stancy and I was rooting for Jancy but the way it happened made me absolutely sick. I couldn't even enjoy them getting together because it was literally cheating and nobody really acknowledges in the show and even in the fandom a huge part still denies it. They blame Steve for Nancy's behavior, because of s1 Steve but they fail to realize that one year has passed and he isn't the same person in the beginning of s2 than in s1. And then they blame him for not being supportive enough, even though he goes to the dinners with the Hollands. They bring up the library talk as evidence how unsupportive he is while failing to realize he tries to protect Nancy from herself. She wants to go after the government you know the people who killed Benny for simply helping Eleven and are known for watching over them, he is terrified something will happen to her and their families if Nancy acted on that. Him trying to distract her isn't him being a shitty boyfriend, people tend to forget Barb died in HIS pool it's probably a coping mechanism to simply try to live a normal life.
The only shitty thing he did in s2 is leaving her alone at the party after she told him he was bullshit, he should have made sure she is okay regardless but that's it.
Nancy on the other hand pretended to love him for a year, she admitted to emotionally cheating while talking to Jonathan, she said to him she waited for him to make a move and then got mad when he brought up Steve you know her actual boyfriend. I swear if Steve would have said that to another girl while dating Nancy people would have lost their minds.
And she never apologized for it either she let Steve know till this day he was the major reason why things ended. I mean Nancy always has problems with accountability, the way she treats people in the show is sometimes gross and I'm sick that the show overlooks her flaws and paints her as perfect. And I'm also sick for being called a misogynist for pointing out that Steve didn't deserve Nancy's treatment or in general for calling out her flaws.
Steve probably doesn't even love Nancy, he loves the romanticized version she played for a year with him. Why else would he try to win her back with his dream, which is her nightmare. I hope he realizes in s5 he deserves someone who actually loves him and shares the same dreams with him.
anon, i am in love you. you get me in a way no one else ever will
people like to pretend that nancy didn’t cheat, but she did. nancy was very adamant in murray’s basement that she loved steve, and they were together. and that night she slept with jonathan.
i never cared much for either stancy or jancy, i don’t really care about ships in the show, like i can just read fics, you know? but s2 very much put me off canon jancy. the choice to have nancy lust after jonathan the entire time she was dating steve is fucked, and uncomfortable. it’s like some weird nerd fantasy, that the girl dating the popular jock actually wants the nerdy loner.
and it’s so weird how people act like s1 steve and s2 steve are the same person!! it’s been a year! and with steve’s behaviour in s1, nancy willingly chose to get back together with him, knowing that he had aided his friends in slut shaming her, so her behaviour in s2 can’t be explained by saying steve was an arse in s1 because she chose to still date him.
and the way people talk down steve’s trauma in s2 drives me insane! like steve is scared the government will come after them and their families if they tell anyone. nancy never explained her little plan to get proof and anonymously share it, she just said she wanted to tell barb’s parents the truth, which sounds like a fun way to get killed.
and with leaving her at the party, i’m not even sure he does! we see him pop outside to cry, and jonathan looking back at him, and the next day jonathan knows exactly what the argument was, and what nancy said, and says that steve told him to take nancy home. and jonathan doesn’t seem the type to lie to make steve look better! so i honestly believe him.
that scene in the hotel is literally insane, and people use it for cute jancy edits?? it’s nancy admitting she’s wanted jonathan for the entirety of her relationship, and then getting pissed when jonathan says “what about your boyfriend”. what about that screams healthy relationship? and the way they get together is insane too. what shared trauma do jonathan and nancy have that steve doesn’t also have? and trauma is not a good basis for a relationship, whenever we see jonathan and nancy outside of end of the world events, they don’t even seem to like each other much? she literally calls him oliver twist.
nancy honestly treats every single person in the show like shit, and you can say it’s because of trauma, but she treated barb like shit too, so i think at some point we’re just gonna have to accept that that is the way nancy is. she likes people when they’re useful to her, and if they aren’t, she’s snide and kind of cruel. (nancy changing this about herself could actually be a really cool character arc, but the show will never admit that nancy is anything but perfect, so we’ll never get it)
and yeah, it’s insane that steve still thinks he’s to blame a year and a half later when she literally cheated on him. like steve was as supportive as he could be, what do people expect him to have done? say, yeah we absolutely should reveal government secrets and probably get killed? he was trying to help nancy in the only way he knew how.
and with nancys dream, she’s never told steve about it. we see her say to jonathan that she doesn’t want to end up like her parents, but she never has that convo with steve. probably because he was just a placeholder for her until she could get jonathan, so why get attached?
honestly, i don’t hate nancy, i think she’s a really cool character (or could be if she wasn’t written by men), but the way people girlboss-ify her behaviour, and the way she treats other people is just horrible. and the more people excuse her actions, the more i dislike her. and i don’t hate stancy or jancy either. there are some fics of the relationships that i love, i just think in canon they’re honestly horrific, and the love triangle never should’ve been brought back in s4.
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noitsnote113 · 9 months
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“They ruined Jonathan in s4!!” Ruined him w what? Him doing drugs? Well let me explain how this is not unusual at all and how it is actually normal (but still not okay) for guys (in the 80s and now) to use this exact coping mechanism.
His childhood/teenage years HAVENT been peachy and colorfull, and I think most people that try to make this argument forget that. Jonathan ISNT a happy kid, I DONT think we’ve seen him happy that much. We get this introduced in s1-s2, we see that he isn’t content. But no, people tend to forget this as soon as he starts dating Nancy in s3 (I love Jancy but Johnn has problems outside of Nancy. People need to realize that his problems aren’t disappearing JUST because he’s dating Nancy.) <- and this is where we get introduced WHERE Johnathan’s problems got molded to in s4.
And with all he has gone through the past years ->(his brother being missing + him watching Will be possessed and seeing him hurt in s2+ him having the responsibility at 16 to WORK so that his family can prosper + him being bullied by Steve in s1 and etc.)
This backs up that him getting into drugs isn’t something out of nowhere. So no, him turning to drugs isn’t bad character writting, if anything, it’s good writing and actual representation of what guys under a lot of stress and a lot of PTSD tendencies tend to cling for ANYTHING that makes them forget. This isn’t an excuse for him doing drugs but it’s an explanation. We don’t see it be excused in the show either, how MANY people are trying to say it was.
“Omg but Murray was okay with it and didn’t tell Joyce!” Murray doesn’t give enough fucks to tell Joyce. It’s not his responsibility to tell nor get her to find out. + THEY ARE NOT MURRAY’S RESPONSIBILITY, they are JOYCE’S.
And lastly, just because Jonathan was more grown up than the smaller kids, doesn’t mean he wasnt still involved!! He still got affected!! Trauma has no age limit. You can get triggered by something either at 6 or at 70. (Let’s not forget that 16 isn’t being an adult either, he was still young. But nooooo since ppl think that 16 is soooooo grownnnn. )
People are doing my man Johnathan dirty and I’m TIRED of it.
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gayofthefae · 2 years
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I originally wanted Max with Dustin just because I knew he was sad about it.
The Duffers knew this would be a loose end in the story, that’s why they had him happily over her by the next time we saw him AND had him ask out other girls to show it was more about “girls” than Max. After I could see that he could be happy without her, I was all for them.
This is what they know and are took advantage of with the staging of season 4. The difference here being, though, that they don’t have time or resources to make Will happy without Mike. And they’ve spent too much time for it to be a reasonable thing to ask of him.
El, on the other hand, has been shown this season (via a temporarily non romantic relationship with Mike) and last season to be perfectly able to cope and even be quite happy out of a romantic relationship with Mike.
If I wasn’t quite sure about Mucas(term of endearment I’m gonna start using on posts not about them), despite on rewatches fully believing they are the better match, because Dustin was sad, even when there were an unknown number of seasons remaining - which we now know to be three more for him to be over it, and the Duffers knew that well enough to both give him a girlfriend and continue to put in the work for Mucas two seasons later where it was making NO ONE SAD (an even better set up this season overall, imo. Who knew ‘back together’ burns could be so juicy?), then it can’t realistically be said that the GA similarly root for Mlvn while it makes Will sad with only one season remaining.
Last time, the Duffers took one season for Dustin to like Max before establishing at the Snow Ball that - no shade to her or him - he just wanted a girl, all making it reasonable that he be over her as established in the following season, then spent one more season re-establishing Mucas in a way that made no other characters sad.
But Will doesn’t just want a boy. And he’s liked him KNOWINGLY for AT LEAST two seasons, but has been confirmed to have hints since the first episode - no matter how self-aware those feelings were. By that logic, he would need as much time as he spent with his feelings getting over them or established to be over them. He can’t get over them offscreen - especially without a rejection, since this was never treated as ‘get over them if you don’t have a chance because he’s dating someone’ like Dustin’s were at the Snow Ball. And even though Max didn’t reject Dustin, Dustin still talked to Lucas. Will and El have never talked. And it’s harder to get over seeing as because Will doesn’t like a boy, his feelings aren’t so much about trying to date Mike anyways. So he can’t get over them offscreen, by the same logic, he would need another four seasons, even if that isn’t true, he would need more than one - and that one would have to be spent entirely on it anyways, when we know the focus needs to be his relationship on the upside down already. So he gets less than one season, which was already far too much to ask of him, and even then, there isn’t time AFTER he’s sad to re-establish Mlvn. They can’t do it just as he’s STARTING to not get sad anymore even if that was realistic. Dustin got over Max by the time we saw him again and they STILL let that fact sit with us for a season before touching Mucas again with a ten foot pole. 
We saw him happy on his own for a full season before they suggested something be more prominent that had made him sad in the past so there would be no confusion as to whether he was pretending to be okay for them. They take time and care. Mucas made someone sad initially. And they needed more foundation themselves anyways. So they revisited and rebuilt years later. Mlvn made someone sad too - Lucas. The next time we saw them together, it made Will sad. Then it made Will sad again, but in a way more resembling the back half of season 2 in how Dustin and Lucas made up and Dustin solemnly told him he could ‘feel the electricity’.  Like s2 Mucas, they have always both been sweet and existed in a way that caused conflict between other characters and those two things can coexist. They have never had a season where they were physically present and did not negatively impact the people around them. 
This is not hate on them, this is just to say that other existing plotlines on the show would suggest that they would require at least one season of not causing anyone around them to be sad before they required at least another season to re-establish themselves while still making no one around them sad. And we don’t have that time. Even if Will was suddenly perfectly content as soon as we met up again, it would have to be demonstrated enough to convince us before they went back to Mlvn. The fact that they dealt with both building Mlvn and the Byler conflict simultaneously these past two seasons says it all. They could have spent last season on Byler and this season on Mlvn. Or vice versa and had Mlvn’s issues solved. They would have at least been arguable. But instead, they have left inarguably insufficient time to solve this issue short of one solution.
And we know what it is.
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astarkey · 2 years
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I was tagged by @finalgirllaurie to post the titles of all my wips! Thank you so much for tagging me!!! 
Okay, I didn’t realize it was gonna be this long 😂 so the list is under “Keep reading.” If anyone wants to know more about either one of these fics, feel free to ask me!!! I’d love to discuss them!!!
You’re So Vain (new sethkate fic I just started inspired by [this])
Bermuda Locket (sethkate fic that is the sequel for Do I Know You?)
Your Beauty’s Rich In a Loveless World (sethkate fic that is the threequel for Do I Know You?) 
I’m Your Passenger (sethkate fic that’s like a Lyft or Uber, Before Sunrise AU [moodboard here])
Wishing I Was There (sethkate neighbors AU smut fic)
Dark Night (a fdtd Queen of the Damned inspired AU fic where paranormal researcher Kate enters an underground world of vampires, and accidentally meets and falls for vampire!Seth. Meanwhile, his brother Richie, is trying to climb his way to the top in the underworld and becomes involved with Amaru, who has her own ambitions of taking over the earth and showing everyone who the real queen is.)
Off the Grid (original fic inspired from a dream I had that was a combination of the video games Control, Far Cry 5 [which I never played actually lol], and D.J.’s screenplay Fight or Flight [synopsis here])
Kate/Amaru fic (a fdtd fic that takes place right after the events from s2, with Kate’s journey to finding herself and searching for things to believe in while Amaru is slowly trying to take over her body and twist her thoughts. Meanwhile as Seth, Richie, and Scott are wrapped up in their own grief after Kate’s “death,” they begin to find clues that she’s still alive, but she may not be the same person they once knew.)
Got a Thing About You (and It Won’t Go Away) [sethkate fic that’s the sequel to I’m Out of My Head]
All I Want for Christmas Is You (sethkate fake-dating AU fic [synopsis here]
Must Be the Season of the Witch (a sethkate Practical Magic inspired AU fic [synopsis here])
When I Wake Up, Who’s Going to Be My Savior? (a sethkate AU where the Gecko brothers are in town visiting a local bar that is having a ladies’ night where they’re auctioning off men for charity. Seth gets so drunk that he enters the auction and strips, and in the end, Kate, who is also in town with her friends, wins him. They both have a wild night where they end up wasted, but when they wake up in the morning, they don’t remember all that’s happened, and how Kate ended up in Seth’s bed [moodboard here])
One Fine Week (a sethkate single-parents AU fic inspired by the movie One Fine Day [synopsis here])
It Takes Two to Tango (a sethkate dance AU fic inspired from the movie Dance With Me, where Kate takes dance lessons from dance instructor, Seth Gecko [moodboard here])
I’ve Made My Bed, I’ll Die In It (a sethkate fic that is the sequel for How to Make a Bed)
If These Walls Could Talk (sethkate fic that’s the threequel for How to Make a Bed [I don’t remember if this was the actual title for the third part 😩 I forgot to write it down when I was coming up with titles for the later fics])
Dirt (a sethkate fic that’s more of a look into their 3 months in Mexico, and where Seth doesn’t want her to leave after their argument in the car, and makes it his mission to bring her back home to Bethel with no bumps or scrapes)
Mama Said (There’ll Be Days Like This) [a sethkate fic inspired from episode 2 from the tv show Sharp Objects. After Jennifer’s funeral, an angry, grief-stricken Kate meets Seth at a convenience store and gets a ride from him after her car suddenly breaks down. She offers him free food as a way to pay him back once they return to the Fuller house, and he offers her his company and a lending ear as she’s finding it hard to cope with the loss of her mother.]
10 Things AU (a sethkate AU fic inspired from the movie 10 Things I Hate About You)
Clear (original fic inspired from another dream I had years ago that takes place in the late 90′s. It involves a college freshman named Natalie and her roommate, Clare, and how suddenly a student’s disappearance changes everything on campus. It’s more like a sci-fi, mystery, drama fic that I don’t even know if I’m ever gonna go back to writing it lmao.)
Addicted to Love (a sethkate AU fic inspired from the movie 28 Days. Kate is admitted into rehab and meets a frequent patient named Seth, and soon they develop an addiction to each other that they don’t want to admit.)
The Woods (a silverchair AU fic that’s been abandoned for years that, honestly, I might just turn it into an original fic with taking out the band and coming up with other original characters lol. A band takes a trip to the Blue Ridge Mountains, where they make camp. During their stay, they encounter something else lurking in the woods that they accidentally bring back with them once they try to leave.)
Okay, I think that’s it with this list 🤣
Tagging (no pressure!!!): @chronic-ghost, @alwaysupatnight, @lilmissuncreative, @musicrunsthroughmysoul, @blondiest, @fortysevenswrites, @belorage, @bensonstablers, @windermerepoets13, @justjstuff, @all-star-avocado, @thisislavieboheme, and anyone else who wants to do this!!! 💕
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spicyicymeloncat · 2 years
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What do you think s11 of Ninjago should've been called instead of "Secrets of the forbidden spinjitzu"?
I mean in my rewrite i actually rewrote the season to fit better with that title since the scrolls are a pretty uniting factor despite not really being explained well in canon. I’m not that great at naming things anyways. At least the canon name is in keeping with how Ninjago has named other seasons. The “xxx of the xxx” naming convention is the same as s1 and s2, which is cool because those seasons parallel s11
I’m happy to pass this question on if anyone else reading this has any good ideas on alternative names for s11 but I do like the canon one lol. Sorry I didn’t really have an answer!
(Oops I start to just info dump about my rewrite version of the scrolls and why they are relevant, here. You can stop reading here if you want)
The secret of forbidden spinjitzu (in the rewrite) is written in the scrolls which is a riddle about how long winter lasts in the never realm. The full story of the scrolls in my rewrite would ideally be inferred through different clues in the season and people could peace it together, but there is hard truths about it in my head. The scrolls were made as response to the grief the fsm had in the never realm (who had lost someone there), and are basically just god’s unhealthy coping mechanism materialised. They’re completely plot devices and metaphors for how characters in the story cope with issues. For example Wu stole the scrolls as a kid as a way of assisting his pride/hero complex, aspheera as a kid, nearly overthrew the serpentine with them after being ridiculed for being seen as weak. And then we have Zane who literally uses the scroll as a crutch for the fact that he’s in another realm and he’s falling apart. The riddle “how long does winter last for in the never realm” is first answered by the ice emperor with “eternity” which is a reference to the fairytale The Snow Queen, in which the character Kay, who was abducted by the snow queen, spends most of the book trying to complete an ice puzzle that ends up spelling out “eternity”. That answer is a reference to the never realm’s supposed eternal winter, but also it’s a pessimistic and hopeless answer, implying there isn’t an end to whatever issue the answerer has. This kind of mindset traps the holder of the scroll from being able to get passed the corruption of it, because if the problems never end then the user will keep using the scroll and destroy things forever. The real answer is “until spring” which is kinda an anti climatic answer but it serves as a reminder things won’t always be bad. It’s like a secret because the characters like Zane don’t realise that it’s the answer, and I guess if you knew that then maybe you’d be better at spinjitzu?? Okay I’ll admit that last part didn’t make too much sense but I tried.
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percyshipz · 2 years
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Needed to put this somewhere. It’s mainly just about Sandy and how cool he is and why he’s one of my favourite characters because I feel he’s a mental health icon and I wish the fandom kinda talked about it more [ I don’t see it a lot :( ]
also under the cut because I DON’T want to 
Okay so Sandy is probably one of my favourite characters in mon.kie ki.d not JUST because he’s an f/o, Like yeah. I love him. I want to give him a little kiss BUT he’s so much more than that to me you have no idea. So here is the idea: 
He’s genuinely a mental health icon. Like I’M TEARING UP WRITING THIS because he’s just SO GOOD. GOD. This man, He used to be filled with so much hate and genuine anger without knowing how to cope. His only thoughts were trying to prove he’s the strongest person and hurting almost everyone around him to some extent - Which probably has some underlining trust / self esteem issues but I might be reading too much. Either way, He probably had a lot going on mentally and it was taking it’s toll. 
Then here he is now, He recognized he had a problem - Went to therapy and worked on himself, Clearly he’s spent years doing so. Now he’s a confident, comfy with himself and happy to do what he can to help those around him, no matter the circumstance. When someone acts with hostility, instead of doing the same: he sees it as an opportunity to make a new friend and works hard to try and establish a bond. He’s learned to live with his anger and uses his own ways to cope aka: Cats and tea!!!! I imagine he was more but these have been the ones prominently shown
and WHEN HE IS PUSHED TO THAT EDGE. He still doesn’t physically hurt anyone, Instead he tells them to leave because he wants to disfuse and remove either the other or himself from the situation because he knows what might happen if it doesn’t and doesn’t want to go back into that whole. He’s nothing short of genuine and probably as authentic as they get and I’m HERE FOR IT. 
He’s everything I want to be and more. He’s one of my favourite characters soley for these reasons alone and that’s probably why I fell in love with him because it takes a lot to do what he’s done and he’s come a long way. It adds so much depth to him that, from the seasons I have seen ( S1 and S2 ),it hasn’t been explored that much and YOU BET I will be exploring this w/ my sona + where ever I can really. 
I love this blue man he is so sweet and I would sit down and have some tea with him. Please let me hold him softly. 
Obligatory Sandy image added because you will look at him. He is so cool. Waiting for more water adventures smh.
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