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#Irish folklore trilogy
pyre-the-ren · 1 year
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I love you, media and music based on folklore, mythology, and old stories passed on from generation to generation. I love you, people who take these sorts of things “too seriously” and begin genuinely analysing what’s generally overlooked as a silly story. I love you, people who both romanticise these stories and point out the very real horror that lies in a lot of them. I love you, people who refuse to let the stories and folklore important to their culture fade away, even when for hundreds or even thousands of years people have attempted to erase their history and culture. I love you, people who reclaim their people’s stories and tell them from the mouths of those it originally belonged to. I love yo
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toaster-trash · 28 days
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Just watched this shit for the first time there now
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And DID it make me cry?……..
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I’m not the same rn.
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atarahderek · 1 month
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Fridge logic: Pangur Bán's heterochromia
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Somehow, it has escaped my notice until now that Pangur Bán has one green eye and one blue eye to symbolize the friendship between Brendan and Aisling. It was through Pangur Bán that Brendan met Aisling and formed a lasting connection. Aisling has green eyes, while Brendan's are blue.
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y3t1cr4b54ndb4t5 · 5 months
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CARTOON SALOON ALWAYS PUTTING THEIR WHOLE PUSSIES INTO ANIMATION
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linnyphoenix · 1 year
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Pangur Ban
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valec275 · 2 years
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OH THIS IS GONNA BE SO GOOD
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applesauceshindo · 9 months
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Aaah! Here it is!!
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CARTOON SALOONS IRISH FOLKLORE TRILOGY!!!!
@irishthings
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Now that they’re finished with their, Irish Folklore Trilogy.
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What other movies does, Cartoon Saloon has planned🤔
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cartoonfan21 · 2 years
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Cartoon Saloon's, Irish Folklore Trilogy, main deuteragonists with their mothers.
🍃Aisling and Eriu🍃 (Secret of Kells)
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🐺Mebh and Moll🐺 (Wolfwalkers)
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🌊Saoirse and Bronagh🌊  (Song of the Sea)
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All three movies are directed by Tomm Moore.
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sanctus-ingenium · 1 year
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tag list & about
Mez:
tagged/setting_mez - art and asks related to the setting of WHERE HATE RULES, a work-in-progress novel about giant mechanical beasts of the mezian catholic church, the dragons they fight, and the crews who worship them.
Inver:
tagged/setting_inver - art relating to the setting of MOTH VIPER FOAL (book trilogy set in the Victorian era) and THE LORD OF LIES (modern era), stories from the north-east Atlantic peninsula of Inver, situated on the edge of the Otherworld. These stories tie in together, dealing with the fallout from a centuries-old conflict which has led to the old monarchy tearing itself apart in the mid 1800s. In the modern era, a faery veteran from the revolution returns to make trouble for humanity.
tagged/mvf - posts, asks, updates relevant to MOTH VIPER FOAL, the book trilogy inclusive of SAID THE BLACK HORSE, THE VIPER MOURNED, and the (unnamed) third book.
tagged/lolcomic - the LORD OF LIES webcomic pages (unfinished but still fun, only did 15 of them)
Other:
tagged/info_asks - useful information, brushsets, and miniature art tutorials. feel free to ask about any part of my process, it's not a trade secret lol
tagged/brushes - posts about what brushes I use
tagged/setting_thera - posts about the cool bug world setting :)
Sideblog:
i have a largely random sketch dump blog @ranticore that you can follow if you want to see random bullshit i draw and also more in depth worldbuilding and lore posts.
About me:
I am an amateur illustrator from Ireland and my work deals with themes of Irish folklore, horses, faery stories, crimes of the catholic church, and what lies beyond the water.
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strangestcase · 6 months
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I’m trying to start reading gothic literature, but I don’t really know where to start. What books in the genre would you recommend?
Cracks knuckles.
Start off with a selection of Edgar Allan Poe short stories. There's a reason he's considered the best Gothic writer. Most if not all of his fiction falls squarely into the gothic genre, even his non-horror production. The more you read the better, but The Fall of the House of Usher is one of the best representatives of the Gothic you can find. Also check out his poetry and scientific essays, if you can, the guy was a real Renaissance man. He also wrote one novel, The Narrative of Arthur Gordon Pym, which, along with Lovecraft's In the Mountains of Madness and Cambell's Who goes there? aka The Thing From Another World constitutes some sort of "trilogy" (since each story was based on the one prior).
Then you can move on to other short story selections. Short stories are easier to read and digest, I think, and plenty of fun. I recommend the following authors:
J. Sheridan Le Fanu- Irish writer that took a page from Irish folklore and legends. Madam Crowl's Ghost is a favorite of mine.
R. Louis Stevenson- usually a children's author, Stevenson liked to merge genres and used pretty interesting concepts for his horror production.
Guy de Maupassant- he was commisioned to write, so he often recycled entire concepts and plots, leaving us with many different versions of the same story (and a lot of heavy-handed morals. god bless).
Charles Dickens- predictably enough, he specialized in ghost stories
M. R. James- James' short horror stories have some of the most interesting monster concepts I've ever read, from a haunted dollhouse that recreates the events of a real-life haunting, to a possessed pattern print.
Gustavo Adolfo Bécquer- little man puts the "Dark Romanticism" in, well, Dark Romanticism. If you know Spanish, do yourself a favor and read his short stories untranslated.
Elizabeth Gaskell- wrote plenty of good horror stories, and often from a female perspective, which is always a treat.
Bram Stoker- his stuff is very hit or miss, but when he hits, he hits hard. Read The Judge's House for a very nasty ghost story and then toss Stoker into the garbage because everything else he wrote is either comically racist or just dumb.
And now as for specific must-read short stories:
The Yellow Wallpaper by Charlotte Perkins Gilman- maybe the true monster was medical misogyny all along! (Obvious content warning for graphic medical abuse, misogyny, and domestic abuse.)
What was it? by Fritz O'Brien- short story in the vein of "hey wouldnt it be fucked up if this happened?" Don't read if you have sleep paralysis.
The Open Door by Margaret Oliphant- a missing child, a mysterious door, and forces beyond human comprehension.
The Empty House by Algernon Blackwood- would you spend a full night in a haunted house? (Very paranoia inducing, it's such a treat.)
The Ghostly Rental by Henry James- in which the "ghosts" aren't actually ghosts, but something far, far weirder and cooler.
The Monkey's Paw by W. W. Jacobs- this tear-wrenching and suspenseful little tale will forever remind you to be careful what you wish for...
The gothic literature "classics", as in, full lenght novels and short novellas, can be a bit difficult to read due to length. My personal recommendations are:
Frankenstein or the Modern Prometheus by Mary Shelley- a foundational text of science fiction with a nestled narrative frame and themes of personal and social responsability, bodily autonomy, and freedom. Young alchemist Victor Frankenstein attempts to blur the line between life and death, and unwittlingly sets off his downfall in the process by creating a humanoid creature he can't control and won't respond to. CW child death, death by axphysiation, incest, description of unsanitary environments.
Strange Case of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde by R. Louis Stevenson- it is considered the first modern psychological horror story, and, while it's a mere sixty pages long, each and every one of them is packed with a dark revelation about tight-laced Victorian society. When his lifelong friend writes up a suspicious will leaving everything to a stranger, a lawyer decides to look into it, leading him down a spiral of discoveries all related to a disturbing experiment. CW suicide, graphic descriptions of violence, drug abuse.
Carmilla by J. Sheridan le Fanu- very much a classic vampire tale, with an interesting sapphic spin, in which the predatory lesbian trope bleeds, pun intended, into a twisted love story. Laura is a young girl who considers herself prim and proper, until the day the charming Carmilla stops by the family manor claiming to be her soulmate, sparking off a romance marked by a series of strange events. CW implied sexual assault, gore.
The Portrait of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde- I consider it an early attempt at daylight horror, and while the plot is mostly romantic drama (canonically bisexual romantic drama!), the descriptions make everything else worthwhile. Beautiful model Dorian Gray's life is changed when he befriends a cunning aristocrat, which prompts him to wish to remain young forever while his portrait ages in his place... and his wish is granted. CW extreme antisemitism, suicide, graphic descriptions of gore and violence.
The Turn of the Screw by Henry James- a ghostly classic which is marked by its ambiguity and the opacity of its plot, all which make it all the more disturbing, if a little hard to follow at times. Bly Manor has appointed a new nanny to take care of a pair of twins, but soon enough, she finds out not all is well in the house, and a dark force might be preying on the children. CW implied incest, implied child abuse.
The Great God Pan by Arthur Machen- technically an example of very early cosmic horror, sitting at the intersection between Poe and Lovecraft, and clearly influenced by late Victorian scientific advancements. Some particularly gruesome deaths lead a group of men to slowly uncover the past of a one Helen Vaughan, and nature of a procedure performed on her mother before her conception. CW implied child abuse, suicide, sexual harrassment, human experimentation, extreme intersexism.
And those would be it!
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quackinus-ducks · 9 months
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just watched wolfwalker and my GOD another banger by Tomm Moore but like damn if Mebh and Robyn didn't just get Sappho'd
/spoilers maybe
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And not to say that it doesn't workfine as it is but the fact that:
Robyn was originally written as a boy but the filmmakers thought it didn't work
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the super casual brushing
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and all of this
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also the LOOKS man robyn i see those looks
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i stg im going insane this move has changed me GO WATCH IT NOW
edit: so ok i know that having a romantic subplot wouldn't have added anything and that none of the Irish Folklore trilogy movies have any romance in them is a good thing but still i can still dream and rotate them both in my brain for days
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atarahderek · 1 year
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Song of the Sea: A Criticism of Bronagh
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Bronagh is probably my second least favorite character in the entire Irish Folklore Trilogy by Cartoon Saloon (nothing can beat Oliver Cromwell, but at least him we're supposed to hate). It's not that I hate her, but I do think she's a terrible person who didn't deserve her family, because the only reason she had them was to use and lose them. So in this essay I will explain how Blue Diamond pulled a Pink, but in Ireland and with pinnipeds.*
Who is Bronagh? A Recap
For those unfamiliar with Cartoon Saloon's Song of the Sea, Bronagh is the mother of Ben and Saoirse, the protagonist and deuteragonist of the film respectively. She is a selkie, which is basically the Celtic version of a mermaid. She can shift between a seal and human form, and is considered to be part of the fairy (or fae) race. She wears her seal coat at all times, which allows her to move between land and sea at will.
On the night her second child, Saoirse, is born, Bronagh falls ill while in labor and is forced to permanently return to the sea, allowing her newborn to wash ashore for her father, Conor, to find. Bronagh's departure traumatizes both Conor and Ben. Conor believes his wife has abandoned him and has no idea why, and he's left in deep depression, especially on Saoirse's birthday. Meanwhile, Ben develops aquaphobia because he believes his mother drowned at sea. He wears a lifejacket wherever he goes for this reason.
Bronagh remains absent for six years, until one Halloween night when Saoirse, embracing her selkie heritage, sings the titular Song of the Sea, opening a pathway for all fairy kind to travel to Tír na nÓg, the land they originally came from. Bronagh does not stay long, however, and bids her family farewell for the final time, taking Saoirse's seal coat so that the girl can stay with her human family. They never see Bronagh again, and are honestly happier for it.
As they should be. Because frankly, Bronagh is a grifter.
Selkies
The legends surrounding selkies typically involve either humans or selkies seducing one another (usually men of either species seducing women of the other species), resulting in an inter-species marriage. If a selkie woman marries a man, this is usually because the man found and hid her seal coat, preventing her from transforming back into a seal. When she finally finds the coat, she returns to the sea forever. In one legend, a selkie maiden willingly takes a human husband, and when he goes out to sea in a storm against her warnings, she's forced to rescue him. But because of the specific rules established in her legend, she is then unable to transform back into her human form, and has to remain at sea, separated from her family. In some forms of the legend, the selkie is able to hide their identity from their lover, out of fear they will lose their seal coat and be trapped on land forever. But in these legends, the selkie is always forced to return to the sea by one circumstance or another, thus having to abandon their lover.
The gist of all this is that selkie-human marriages always end in a broken family. And the selkie frequently leaves behind children.
Bronagh's Secrets
Now, in SotS, it's established that Bronagh and Conor are happily married, with seemingly no coercion from either party. Bronagh is free to wear her seal coat all she likes, and Conor knows she's a selkie. It's only when Saoirse is born that Conor makes a habit of hiding away the seal coat for fear of losing her like he did her mother, resulting in Saoirse becoming mute without it. It comes as a shock to Conor when Bronagh returns permanently to the sea, abandoning him and their children. Obviously he was previously unaware that Bronagh could not continue living both on land and at sea, and that she would eventually have to return to the sea.
But this isn't the only secret Bronagh kept from Conor. As one party in selkie-human marriages is wont to do, Bronagh was using Conor for her own gains.
We learn from a group of fairies that a selkie is needed to open the way to Tír na nÓg by way of her singing. Saoirse specifically seems to be the selkie required to do this. Because Saoirse is half human, she thus represents a connection--a bridge--between the human realm and the fairy realm. Ben did not inherit Bronagh's selkie magic, so even though he is technically half selkie himself, he's unable to become that bridge. There's also an implication that Bronagh knew that in order to assure that Saoirse had selkie magic, she would have to birth her at the expense of her life on land. Saoirse is the product of Bronagh's real goal; to create a bridge and open a pathway for her kind to their realm. For this she needed herself a patsy.
Enter Conor.
The Grift
Conor is a gentle lighthouse keeper. He is strongly introverted, has a love of the sea and doesn't let his overbearing mother dictate his life. He is well aware of the legends of selkies and is determined to not be that kind of husband. But he doesn't know everything he needs to know about them, and that suits Bronagh just fine. What he doesn't know can't hurt her, right? So Bronagh tells him all about where she's from, and together they dream up an idyllic life split between sea and shore. But what she doesn't tell him is that she wants him for his DNA, and once she gets what she wants, she's outta there. She leaves him bereaved and confused, with two children to raise on his own, both of whom can be read as having special needs because of their trauma and/or the circumstances of their birth. And one of those children she only produced to be a tool, just like Conor.
All this, of course, leaves poor Ben in the painful and unfair position of having to repair his entire family practically by himself at ten years old.
While I can understand that Bronagh would be hesitant to tell Conor exactly what her mission was, the fact is that by not telling him, she was exploiting him and their children. Conor was just a cog in Bronagh's machinations. She didn't marry him out of love, and she basically captured him and held him captive. Which makes her no different from any other selkie legend, except this time it's the wife doing the exploitation rather than the husband.
Basically, Bronagh is not a good person.
Consequences and Conclusion
If Conor had known the truth about Bronagh's mission, there's certainly a decent chance that he would've opted out. But what if he hadn't? What if he was so in love with this seal maiden that he agreed to help all her people? Had that been the case, he could've better prepared his children for not only the day Bronagh had to leave, but also for the day Saoirse would fulfill her purpose and open the path to Tír na nÓg. And he would've been better prepared himself. Bronagh could not have foreseen that her actions would ultimately lead to the main antagonist Macha's redemption, and the fairies whom Macha had turned to stone being set free after Ben was forced to confront his own trauma and the emotions that came with it. So Bronagh pretty much just traumatized her son because she wanted to keep her secrets. The trouble and pain she caused did ultimately have a greater good come out of them, but that was certainly not her doing.
Now, while I don't think Bronagh is a good person, I do think she is an effective character. As I said, her actions ultimately lead to all of the fairies being freed and Macha being redeemed and reunited with her son MacLir. Had Conor been completely on board with Bronagh's plans, there might not have been as important of an impact on Ben, and he wouldn't have been in a position to help Macha. So from a story writing perspective, Bronagh works quite well. But as a wife and mother, Bronagh fails utterly. As a selkie, she's so typical it hurts.
Moral of the story: Don't marry a selkie unless the contract includes an ironclad absolutely-no-secrets clause. Or just...don't marry a selkie, period. Save yourself the heartbreak.
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shinobi-illuminator · 4 months
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What, movies will Cartoon Saloon make, now that they're finished with The Irish Folklore Trilogy?
Your guess is as good as mine. The latest I had heard was the Puffin Rock movie. Either way, I hope they carry on.
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merymoonbeam · 9 months
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The Morrigan
In this post I'm gonna talk about how Mor is going to be the High Queen.
So let's start.
The Morrígan or Mórrígan, also known as Morrígu, is a figure from Irish mythology. The name is Mór-Ríoghain in Modern Irish, and it has been translated as "great queen" or "phantom queen".
her name already goes as phantom queen or great queen.
In myths it is talked about Morrigan is described as a trio of individuals, all sisters.
The Morrígan is often described as a trio of individuals, all sisters, called "the three Morrígna". In mythology membership of the triad is given as Badb, Macha, and the Morrigan, who may be named Anand It is believed that these were all names for the same goddess. In modern sources Nemain may also be named as one of the three Morrigan along with Badb, Macha, although her inclusion is unclear The three Morrígna are also named as sisters of the three land goddesses Ériu, Banba, and Fódla. The Morrígan is described as the envious wife of The Dagda and a shape-shifting goddess, while Badb and Nemain are said to be the wives of Neit. She is associated with the banshee of later folklore.
So I went to look at those names. Macha is what we are going to focus on.
Macha was a sovereignty goddess of ancient Ireland associated with the province of Ulster, particularly the sites of Navan Fort (Eamhain Mhacha) and Armagh (Ard Mhacha), which are named after her. Several figures called Macha appear in Irish mythology and folklore, all believed to derive from the same goddess. She is said to be one of three sisters known as 'the three Morrígna'. Like other sovereignty goddesses, Macha is associated with the land, fertility, kingship, war and horses.
Macha is connected with horses. So is Mor. In acofas. The bridge book between the og trilogy and the new books.
And as Mor galloped over the snowy hills, her mare, Ellia, a solid, warm weight beneath her, she remembered why. Early-morning mist hung between the bumps and hollows of the sprawling estate. Her estate. Athelwood. She’d bought it three hundred years ago for the quiet. Had kept it for the horses.
also side not Athel means : noble; nobleman, hero...her estate is called Athelwoold.
Another thing about Macha is that she is the only high queen of Ireland.
Macha Mong Ruad ("red hair"), daughter of Áed Rúad ("red fire" or "fire lord" – a name of the Dagda), was, according to medieval legend and historical tradition, the only queen in the List of High Kings of Ireland.
and lastly...King of Hybern's words.
She froze. Stopped a foot from the throne. Her knife clattered to the floor. The king rose. “What a mighty queen you are,” he breathed. And Mor backed away. Step by step. “What a prize,” the king said, that black gaze devouring her.
this post is dedicated to @seerelain ✨
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kkoraki · 20 days
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get to know me meme
tagged by @jaggededges123 thank you!!
do you make your bed? yes it’s the first thing I do every morning as soon as I get up
what’s your favorite number? 13, 7, 0, 3 and 4
what is your job? running my mouth about very powerful computers to very important people
if you could go back to school would you? yes, probably either for art (ba), spanish (ba), computer engineering (masters), sociology/lgbt history (phd) or business (masters) - honestly if there was a job where you could make bank by going to school your entire life that’s what I would want to do
can you parallel park? yes, pretty well, I wish I was more confident at doing it in super tight spaces
a job you had that would surprise people? I kind of don’t think me having had any job would surprise people. for online friends maybe either pizza delivery driver or recruiter. for irl people it’s usually that my degree & first-ish job were in animation… gets them every time
do you think aliens are real? I think there must be some kind of life outside our solar system, I don’t know if it’s something that humans would describe or understand as intelligent life
can you drive a manual car? no but I could probably figure it out in a pinch
what’s your guilty pleasure? if I enjoy it it’s not guilty… maybe fast food french fries
tattoos? not yet but just because I couldn’t think of anything that had enough personal significance that I felt like I could pull the trigger and get it imprinted on my skin forever. I do finally have something I decided on a year or so ago that I think I’ll get eventually (upper arm/shoulder tattoo of a mourning dove with Texas cedar (juniperus ashei/mexicana) + excerpt from isaiah 11:9). if I like that after getting it, which I have a feeling I will, I’m also reeeally partial to fma scar’s tattoos 👀
favourite color? forest green, all shades of yellow, and gray
favourite type of music? I can’t answer this my taste is too scattered. symphonic metal, 90s rap, new alternative, soundtracks, english covers of anime ops and vocaloid songs ripped directly from youtube, half of taylor swift’s discography but not the other half, etc
do you like puzzles? I love them, my family is always doing puzzles for fun. big fan of recreational puzzles and games.
any phobias? no phobias. pretty strong fear of falling (not heights - the feeling of falling). don’t like to watch large needles or drains being pushed under or removed from skin
favourite childhood sport? was mostly homeschooled and didn’t play a lot of formal sports but probably soccer
do you talk to yourself? yes, it’s funny because I don’t have much of an internal narrative but I have little conversations aloud with myself ALL the time when I’m alone - hyping myself up, discussing things I’m undecided about, talking about whatever I’m doing at the moment, arguing with myself, creating the next great fandom meta, etc.
what movie(s) do you adore? prince of egypt, mad max: fury road, wolfwalkers (+ the rest of the irish folklore trilogy), when marnie was there, lilo and stitch
coffee or tea? coffee - I don’t drink tea very often at all
first thing you wanted to be growing up? veterinarian
if you’d like to, I tag @saltedpin , @iamthepulta , @reconditarmonia , @pyrose-the-flame , @aranov and anybody else who wants to
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