#aggressive men

[transmascissues]

in 2024 i want to see more songs sung in t voices, more grown-out t scruff, more hairy tits and top surgery scars, more gay sex involving t dicks and pussies, more cutting each other’s hair when the hairdressers can’t get it right, more helping each other with t shots and sharing extra bottles of t gel, more passing down binders and post-surgery pillows like family heirlooms, more crackly laughs and excited voices that don’t know how loud they are now, more proudly showing off phallo scars like we show off top surgery scars, more teaching each other how to shave and tie a tie and all the other things our dads didn’t teach us, more sheer shirts over post-op chests, more skirts and short shorts on hairy legs, more moving the fuck out instead of living with transphobic parents, more breaking up with partners that wanted girlfriends not boyfriends, more pregnant dads, more twinks turned into otters and bears by t, more scars and binders on the beach, more romanticization of t dicks and meta dicks and phallo dicks, more rage and resistance against anyone who would try to rob us of our history or our ancestors, more pride in complex manhoods and queer masculinities, more getting louder every time someone tells us to shut up about the things that are important to us, more searching for transmasculinity in every piece of media and injecting it into anything that failed to consider us, more cuntboys and boygirls and transfags and butch dudes and transsexual men, more jumping headfirst into masculinizing transitions, more delighted reactions to realizing “holy shit i think i’m actually a guy”, more trans manhood and transmasculinity as force of nature and fundamental truth and fact of life that cannot under any circumstances be ignored.

#getting all my new years posting in now that the new years weekend from hell is over #i’ve had. a Time y’all. life always picks the worst moments to be like ‘think fast!’ and chuck something earth shattering in your face #but ANYWAY. let’s make 2024 the most aggressively obnoxiously joyfully transmasc year ever #trans man positivity #transmasc positivity #testosterone positivity #trans positivity #trans men #transmascs

[sarasade]

One of the most generally useful things to come out of Hbomberguy's plagiarism video and Todd in the Shadows' similar video on misinformation is how they bring transparency to the internet phenomenon of "I made up a guy to get mad at".

Seriously, I've seen people make up a lot of stupid shit on the internet over the years and it's often just a manipulative attempt to paint a group of marginalized people in a bad light.

That's the TL;DR version of this post. 

ANYWAY here is the long version

Those videos are mostly about James Somerton's plagiarism of other queer people's work. However I'd like to talk about that 20-30% of Somerton's original writing- and oh boy. It's mostly about complaining about White Straight Women and misgendering well-known trans creators such as Rebecca Sugar and calling Becky Albertalli a straight woman while it's pretty common knowledge that she was forced to out herself as bi because she received so much harassment over "being a cishet woman who appropriates LGBT+ stories".

One thing that irks me especially is how in his Killing Stalking and Gay Shipping videos Somerton brings up how straight women/ teen girl shippers exploit gay men for their personal sexual fantasies. This gets brought up several times in his videos.

Being all up and arms about Somerton being a "White Cis Gay Who Hates Women and Queer People tm" is not that useful because the kind of rhetoric he's using is extremely common in fandom and LGBT+ spaces on Tumblr, TikTok and Twitter. We really don't need to bring Somerton's identity to this since he is in no way an unique example.

It's hypocritical to make this about an individual person when I've seen A TON of posts, tweets and videos where queer people talk about these Sinister Straight Women who are supposedly out there fetishizing and exploiting queer men. It's pretty clear to me that this is just an excuse to shit on women and queer people for having any sexual interests. At worst these comments are spreading misinformation about BL, a form of media that has been excessively studied by both Asian feminists and Asian queer women.

This all sounds really familiar and I think it's good that people are calling it out as what it is: misogyny and transphobia. I'd also point out the potentially racist motives behind being this hypervigilant about Asian media.

People can absolutely be misogynist regardless of gender or orientation. I really don't know why we need to create some kind of made up enemy to get mad at. I actually think it's almost sinister how "anti-fujoshi" people call Slash shippers and fujoshi misogynists or claim that they have internalised misogyny while being dismissive about women's interests and creative pursuits under Japanese obscenity laws, China's censorship, book bans in American schools and various other disadvances that are part of being a queer and/or female creator.

I think we shouldn't be naive about the bad faith actors who want to turn queer people against each other. For example Fujoshi.info mentions anti-gender (TERF, GC etc) movement using this kind of rhetoric as well.

Anyway if you want to read more:

- about the false info around BL fandom fujoshi.info

-There is the scholar Thomas Baudinette who studies gay media in Japan. Here is a podcast with him and the scholar Khursten Santos

-James Welker is a BL scholar as well. Here is a podcast interview about the new international BL article collection he edited.

-I've already talked about this Youtube channel by KrisPNatz and his great Killing Stalking video that actually engages with the themes of the manhwa

- There is also HR Coleman's thesis DO NOT FEED THE FETISHIZERS: BOYS LOVE FANS RESISTANCE AND CHALLENGE OF PERCEIVED REPUTATION where she interviews 36 BL fans and actually breaks down why fetishization has become such a huge talking point in the fandom discourse. Spoilers, it's mostly about young queer people and women being worried that they will get judged and pathologized for their interest in anything sexual.

-Great podcast about Danmei and censorship with Liang Ge

#Also I don't mean that you can always tell if someone is a transphobe or a TERF based on a couple of things they have said. #My point is that sometimes ok people can have very regressive ideas too. #This is not a call out post about how we should go around accusing anti-fujoshi people #todd in the shadows #hbomberguy #sarasade text #even I've got those “Fandom is mostly straight women fetishizing gay men” comments once and it begins to sound kind of passive-aggressive #when you're a bi woman. Lot of fandom stats at AO3 show that fandoms are montly bi women. who are these people calling straight exactly hmm #also straight women are completely ok leave them alone. I know I know Yes I'm so brave for saying this #cw: transphobia

[andy-clutterbuck]

Andy™: Behind the scenes of The Ones Who Live

#*looks at tag* #Made of 100% Dad #Andrew Lincoln #* #andygifs #andy pls #*shoving him in my pocket* #put that thing back where it came from or so help me #i love when grown ass men give me cute aggression #EYE CRINKLES #*david attenborough voice* THE SUN #excuse me but The Nose™

[warrior-cats-rewritten]

Literally go fuck yourself.

https://archive.ph/2019.12.27-222825/https://erinhunter.katecary.co.uk/the-blazing-star-spoiler-page/comment-page-10/%23comments for if you wanna go read this for yourself and see.

#warrior cats #warriors #tom wc #bumble wc #turtle tail #turtle tail wc #dotc #dawn of the clans #kate cary #i have no words #this actually made me sick to my stomach #why are you frothing at the mouth to defend men who abuse women #why are you insisting that abusive men should be treated fairly #why are you so aggressively insisting that they should become 'lovely' so they can maybe feel guilty #instead of any actual real punishment #no i don't want tom to get better #i want him to rot in hell and get eaten by one eye #one eye wc #remember kids #wishing abusers harm means you're just as bad as they are #wc gray wing #wc clear sky #wc bumble

[k-wame]

This or That with PAUL MESCAL · ANDREW SCOTT ↳ Searchlight Pictures Pressroom · 19.12.2023

#lol paul aggressively reminding andrew who he should love🥰 btw this game was so fun. the music they used is a banger ngl #andrew scott #paul mescal #aous #all of us strangers #aous press #affection #homoeroticism #beautiful men

[ballpitwitch]

Keanu Reeves performing at The Roxy in Los Angeles - July 18, 2023

#keke do you need a hair tie babe I got you #Keanu Reeves #kreevesedit #keanuedit #* #flashing gif #derailed my whole day #LOOK HOW HAPPY HE IS #I LOVE AN OLD MAN #bassist bf #gettin real sick of this tall old man giving me cute aggression #lol jk #get you a man who will give you cute aggression and also cause you to want to invest in those kneeling pads people who garden a lot use #iykyk #me 5'4": i will pick him up #men tucking their hair behind their ear..... *air raid sirens* #he just vibin #i love him your honor #also i love arm #we're not gonna talk about the fingers we're not #*cash register noise* *glass breaking* *car horn* #*me in my yard apologizing to abc news* #i didn't need 14 gifs but tumblr said i could so suffer with me i guess #or take me out back idc #i don't think im gonna survive this tour #clearly #i was gonna talk about man sweat but it made me feel like that one orc from lotr so i won't #it's me hi im the problem it's me #does that bass wanna trade places? i am free 24/7 365 just call me thank you for your time

[honeyblockm]

generalizing statements like 'all men are evil' are for sure wrong but also i think its important not to cut discussions of gender out of the picture esp bc they are extremely relevant in this case as misogyny is a big part of wilbur's abusive actions and the wider discussion of the. social environment of cc spaces that enables things like this. so.

#also i think its important 2 watch how we talk abt this wrt rhetoric abt gender thats veering in2 radfem territory and ableism #but wrt to the gender stuff it feels like some of the stuff on my dash is also touching on being an overcorrection? like. yeah cis men are #not singularly capable of doing abuse but also this is a conversation abt a space wherein cis men are particularly #empowered and protected 2 abuse their power #so. #and also its worth having grace for ppl who may feel particularly sensitive abt this topic and not aggressively police every part of #how theyre responding to this. .um #yens

[geminison]

started watching latest candela obscura season and I'm loving Raj and Oscar's dynamics they're both such passionate haters

#need them to smooch. aggressively #oh no it's a pattern. i love angry men making out with each other while being confused by their feelings #candela obscura #gems' talking

[canisalbus]

you and your dogs

.

#living in a clay wine jar and aggressively daydreaming about moments of tenderness between two doomed dog men #answered #nerdianity

[bittsandpieces]

.

#stayed up too late and now im pissed off about this stupid relationship im stuck in again #did you know hes never once correctly gendered me despite talking to me about me being nonbinary multiple times??? #did you know we have to use lube every time we fuck because he has NEVER warmed me up first and usually straight up doesnt prep me at all??? #did you know he firmly believes that men are more aggressive and natural leaders and that women are caretakers and wont listen #to me when i say that that attitude really upsets me??? like i dont give a shit if thats what they said in your “mens health” class in uni #im just. i need to get the fuck out of here but i cant yet because hes my fucking BOSS #and im going to have to quit my job first but if i quit then i have to move back home so ill have to give notice to my landlord and im just #im on the verge of losing my mind entirely. another one of my coworkers got punched in the eye by a customer again last week #i have to get the fuck out of here #anyway. remind me to delete this in the morning

[transmascissues]

gay trans men: isn’t it fucked up that so many cis gay men proudly talk about how disgusting they think our bodies are, get violent when they realize they were attracted to one of us, push us out of community spaces because they don’t think we belong there, invalidate the orientation of the cis gay men who enter into relationships with us, accuse us of raping the cis gay men we’ve had sex with, aggressively misgender us and make assumptions about our bodies, act like their personal lack of desire to be with us means we must be fundamentally unattractive and morally reprehensible, and generally treat our existence like a personal attack worthy of a violent response when all we’re trying to do is exist?

those cis gay men & their friends: oh my god, you’re literally trying to force your disgusting female pussy onto gay men! this is conversion therapy! you’re a predator and a rapist and you deserve to die!

gay trans men: …we literally do not care if you have sex with us. nobody said anything about that. a lot of us are t4t, asexual, and/or already in a relationship, and the rest of also don’t want to have sex with you that badly because we would much rather be fucking someone who actually likes us; this has never been about who we personally want to sleep with. we’d just really appreciate it if you could treat us like human beings and not actively try to make the gay community hostile toward our existence. you don’t have to be attracted to us, just don’t be awful to us? and maybe, once you have that part down, ask yourself why you were so quick to assume a subset of queer people are all violent predators?

those people: HOMOPHOBES! EVIL GROSS FETISHIZING RAPIST HOMOPHOBES!

#it really is like talking to a brick wall. an aggressively bigoted brick wall #i promise none of you are such spectacular lovers that we’re going to those lengths to fuck you #the more mad we make you the more likely it is that none of us would touch you with a ten foot pole #like. ​me and my five year committed gay relationship do not want to fuck you #and even if it ended tomorrow. i still would not want to fuck you personally #bc i 1) am primarily t4t. 2) have fucking standards. and 3) have no interest in fucking people who don’t want to fuck me #this was never about wanting to get in bed with you #we just want to exist in peace #transandrophobia #transandromisia #transmisandry #virilmisia #virilphobia #anti transmasculinity #transmascphobia #trans men #transmascs

[skitskatdacat63]

Roleswap anyone??

Tell me Fernando wouldn't make a fantastic general/emperor, and that Napoleon wouldn't make a fanastic driver/tp!!

#this might be the most mentally ill thing ive drawn yet.... #lmao im like ah this would be a funny idea to draw #and then got WAAYYYYY more into drawing napoleon #to the point of cuteness aggression and sadness that him in f1 isnt real :( #cofi and i made up a whole lore and plot line so if you want a pt 2 of that hmu LMAO #but briefly: hes a driver(2 wdc btw) who got kicked out for smth and then came back as a tp again to torment his former rivals #gahhhhh why is he so cute why isnt he real :( i would stan him so hard you dont understand #with his cute little lesbian bob and introverted but brave and outspoken demeanor.... #his mechanics and team in general are all tall men who love to pick him up #but god the plot is just so fun and compelling that it makes me sad that kinda driver doesnt exist irl #my greatest dream is for someone from the actual napoleon fandom to see this #bcs its weird enough for you guys so i cant even imagine what theyd think #BUT PLEASEEE #anyways. this is a very odd post. but im very proud of it :) #lmao this is just like one step closer to actually writing my proper manifesto about it #but yeah i posted that silly meme the other day and it got way more notes that i expected so maybe this will be appealing too? #girls who cannot draw normal fanart #<- like seriously i wont draw napoleon in his normal clothes and fernando vice versa but no prob with the reverse?? my brain... #f1 #formula 1 #fernando alonso #nandopoleon alonsoparte #napoleon bonaparte #napoleon #catie.art

[cupiidzbow]

lrb makes me think how i kinda ride the high of being the shorter/silly one in my ships due to the fact of me being black/taller/and bigger and I’ve been forcibly masculinized/made aggressive for a majority of my life when i didn’t want it 😭😭😭 like maybe I want to being treated like the delicate one ☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽☝🏽

#IDK i can do that with my big men I like it…… maybe we deserve the chance to not be treated as aggressive idk 😭😭😭😭 #txt

[cloud-based-and-rainpilled]

In goofy David Tennant/Michael Sheen Loud news, my husband stumbled upon an edit with David Tennant and Michael Sheen about how they’re In Love ® and he’s been solidly on the ‘Yeah, they’re prob fuckin’ train because of me & he was like, “I don’t get it, they’re not physically compatible at all, one is really skinny and the other is cherubic—“ and I was like bruh you literally described the one who plays an angel on TV as cherubic 💀 💀 💀 certifyibly Good ™️ casting big rare W to Neil Gaiman

#he’s not even in the fandom he just had a fancam recommended to him & it was almost all staged clips lmaooo #he didn’t believe me at first until i explained to him how aggressively bisexual michael sheen is and the heavily implied poly drama #he isn’t nearly as invested as I am but he’s a full believer now as an *outsider* lmaoko #*lmao (i am not retyping i cannae type on mobile) #also ‘not physically compatible’ made me chuckle like bruh these men are so thirsty #i love people (and celebrities) whomst’ve just cannot help but constantly reveal themselves lmaooo #also he thinks rpf is hysterical & we used to read livejournal beatles rpf in high school on school computers so he really is the one #good omens #bbc staged #ineffable husbands #aziraphale #crowley #david tennant #michael sheen #i must stress he is entirely outside of the fandom and skeptical on all ‘these ppl are fcking’ shit and even he’s like ‘oh okay lol i guess’ #incredible #also i don’t want good omens stuff on his computer like was it just listening to us?? help???

[snowberry-pie]

game time. if your ocs were popular fictional characters how exactly would fandom violently butcher and misinterpret their characters

#kikay speaks #forgot to play my own game. #sifri — #people would somehow manage to turn her into a hypercompetent girlboss dom TM #cishet men would hate her i feel like she’d get the mary sue treatment #oh and the fact that she’s a brown woman would Not Help #lettie — #also girlbossified to shit or innocent cute smol bean uwu #there’d probably be weird discourse where ‘she’s too cute to be horny’ is the main point of contention #the fact that she’s ALSO a brown woman would not help #mith — #himbo-ified :( or like the Aggressive Loud Guy or pathetic a heem heem whimper guy #probs be oversexualized to shit #also definitely a prime target for top/bottom discourse

[thedreadvampy]

unwarranted Cis Opinion but I'm getting really uncomfortable w people responding to bathroom bills by posting pictures of trans men like DO YOU WANT THEM IN WOMEN'S BATHROOMS

bc like. no they're men. they should be in men's bathrooms unless that feels unsafe. but. it really feels like it's not helpful to lean into the idea that seeing someone presenting masc or being read as a man in a women's bathroom means You're In Danger.

like I know several butch women and NB ppl who are really scared around being on T or getting top surgery bc they're not men and they don't want to be in the men's bathroom, and in that circumstance stuff like growing facial hair or reading more androgynously can be really fucking scary when people are being primed by propaganda to be on edge and hyperreactive to anyone who doesn't look like their idea of a Cis Woman.

and I'm not laying that at the feet of the people saying "hey uhhhh trans men are men and don't belong in women's bathrooms" bc it is not their fault. it's the fault of a concerted effort to make it difficult and dangerous to be trans or substantively gender nonconforming in public.

but at the same time idk I guess it just worries me cause sometimes it feels like "you fools! you are worried about this group of trans people bc you think they're the Lurking Danger of Men In Bathrooms? WRONG! the Men Making You Feel Afraid In Bathrooms are actually THESE trans people!" when in fact neither of those groups using the fucking bathroom is a problem. just piss and mind your business. people need to go where they need to go.

anyway this country is a hot fucking trash fire that somehow accelerates its descent into open fascism more every day so it's all super good and normal. so don't take this too seriously tbh cause it's somewhere near #2535654476457899009765 on the list of priorities for Queer Discourse right now when the fucking human rights commission is actively rescinding protections from trans people. Please ignore my gibberish.

#red said #i get that the point is to follow their logic to its logical conclusion like SEE THE EFFECT IS THE OPPOSITE OF YOUR STATED INTENTIONS #but a) the lawmakers already know this tbf #and also b) ultimately you still do end up making a lot of tweets that look very very very like the original scaremongering abt trans ppl #and transphobes and ppl who are unfamiliar with trans stuff alike have repeatedly and consistently demonstrated either an unwillingness #or an inability. to understand the difference btw a trans man and a trans woman. #and meanwhile idk it does feel like most posts like this are tacitly reinforcing the idea that you SHOULD be scared of masc-presenting ppl #it's putting so much emphasis on clockability. and the truth is not everyone using the bathroom does or should have to pass perfectly. #if a trans woman who looks like one of these trans men needs to piss. a woman with stubble and short hair and muscly shoulders. #SHE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO PISS IN THE WOMEN'S BATHROOM. even if she doesn't look like a cis woman. #if a trans dude looks like a girl he still doesn't belong in the ladies unless he personally feels the need to go there for his safety #if someone is not actively bothering you harassing you or treating you with aggression it's not really any of your business is it #maybe that's a trans man. maybe that's a trans woman. maybe that's a woman or dyke on T. maybe that's a cis woman who just looks masculine. #who gives a shit? a key factor in ladies bathrooms is that they have fucking cubicles. unless someone is making it your business it's not. #and if they are then the problem isn't that they're the Wrong Sex/Gender it's that they're behaving badly/disrespectfully/threateningly #which is also a problem when cis women do it!!!!!